Weekend Thread 14 December 2019

Back to business . The BBC charter isn’t currently due for renewal until January 2028 . So for those who see the BBC as a Far Left Biased Monster -reviewing the Charter system and funding to cut it down to size must start now . This got mentioned a bit in the General Election but must be maintained in the collective consciousness – particularly since it is too arrogant to change .

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424 Responses to Weekend Thread 14 December 2019

  1. Guest Who says:

    The next salvo from the bbc, with VD stirring like a good ‘un.

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  2. StewGreen says:

    R4 Politics show is the usual metroliberal bubbleworld
    Ayesha* the Labour woman pundit “OMG Boris win got endorsement from Katy Hopkins
    .. that is not uniting”

    FFS she says she is claiming that ” a country is united when people like KT Hopkins do not support the policies”
    KT supports Brexit, the democratic vote of brexit, that is why she endorsed Boris win.

    The show is branded “Electioncast
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m000cbtd

    * Ayesha Hazarika MBE (born 15 December 1975) is a Scottish comedian, broadcaster, journalist and political commentator, and former political adviser to senior Labour Party politicians.
    Works written: Pu

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    • StewGreen says:

      The presenter just asked Ayesha if she was getting messages from potential Labour leaders lobbying her
      “well my phone is on flight mode”
      … I check Twitter and see that is a LIE cos she is communicating I can see her tweeting.
      Deception is the first reaction of these people.

      Was the prog recorded ? ..no it appears to be live

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  3. Sluff says:

    An unexpected source of bias from the archives.

    Looking on youtube to find a comedy sketch of interest to Mrs S and chanced upon the HIGNFY edition, circa 2002, with Boris Johnson as presenter.

    It was mid Blair era, but there were some good jokes at his expense, as well as other Labour figures, and then the Tories and of course Johnson. HIGNFY did comedy in those days.

    But successfully goading Johnson, he goes into ‘auto-rant’ and starts having a go at the bias of the BBC !!!!!

    Yes, even back then at Blair’s height, the bias was visible and being called out.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Only the guardian would report such a story without reference to the BBC 100% hostility to brexit and far left bias in every area the monster covers

      No wonder more people are refusing to talk to BBC drones . And I hope the new government gives them a wide berth too .

      Adopt the Trump model – if you have to talk to them – do it at airports at the plane warms up …

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    • StewGreen says:

      MarkH quoted
      BBC journalists based in London, an area with strong Labour support, reported finding it harder now that their friendship groups were increasingly critical of the corporation’s output.

      Unconscious admission that the jounalists are lefties.
      Had they been right of centre they’d have got fed up of being criticised years ago.
      The left is so used to being free of any criticism from the TV media and apart from the news sectors, they still are.
      A lot of opinions were aired before this election by TV stars.

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    • StewGreen says:

      The PR machine disinformation continues with the Ugly Sisters shouting that they are the most beautiful in the kingdom
      and that the BBC is biased AGAINST the left
      by which they mean the metroliberal Islington bubbleworld
      an effing preposterous suggestion

      The BBC is biased against the actual working class largely white people of the north unless they conform to their Islington bubbleworld
      whilst SpecialVictimhood groups get a free pass.

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  4. StewGreen says:

    Which special victimhood group is due to win SPOTY tomorrow ?

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    • StewGreen says:

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      • theleftwilleatitself says:

        Unfortunately for al beeb, Ben Stokes is a shoe in to win it at 1/5!
        I don’t watch anymore because it is riddled with PC cobblers, plus jug-ears presents it, but if he doesn’t win then the result will have been rigged because Stokes is too white, male and heterosexual 👍

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  5. StewGreen says:

    The Labour social media team actually bragged how *successful* they were, in the final hours before voting started.

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Times : Janice Turner
    ‘Ash Sarkar and Owen Jones;
    the Corbyn kids. who burnt down the family home,
    and know they are in big trouble with the grown ups’

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  7. Hereward Wake says:

    Labour may conceivably learn the lesson, not to insult the electorate (though don’t hold your breath) but the BBC never will. Their overarching theme, so far, has been ‘what has gone wrong?’ which they stick to, regardless of the obvious fact that the majority of people watching think something has gone right.

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  8. Demon says:

    I see my last comment looks like I was referring to a different point but I meant that I’d noticed the SNP had polled under 50% which meant the majority in Scotland voted for Unionist parties.

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  9. Demon says:

    I see my last comment looks like I was referring to a different point but I meant that I’d noticed the SNP had polled under 50% which meant the majority in Scotland voted for Unionist parties.

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Is the BBC same as The Times ?
    “Democrats risk backlash after charging president
    President
    … Trump was formally charged with abuse of office yesterday as the Democrats forged ahead with the gamble of putting him on trial, even as public support for impeachment appears to be waning”

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  11. StewGreen says:

    In 1900 UCL students nicked a sales statue from outside a shop
    and displayed it, cos being a soldier and winning battles for Britain is a good thing

    In 2019 students vote that a statue of a white Scottish soldier symbolises evil colonialism and must go.

    Yet in a South African mixed race university an identical statue is still celebrated.

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  12. The General says:

    When Extinction Rebellion activist superglue themselves to buildings why do the police unstick them ? Why not just leave them there so they can get freezing cold, wet when it rains, pee themselves when they get desperate and better still defecate. You can bet they would not do it again.
    And it would cost the authorities nothing.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Dutch military police let XR demonstrate outside the airport , but when they moved into the building they’ve been cuffed and put on buses to bedumpedin dome suburb.

      I suspect some of them had just *flown* in from Madrid.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Person described as “teenage stabber”
    is actually 19yo from a Muslim gangster home
    His step father is jailed for attacks on people for not being sharia compliant

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  14. The General says:

    Sew much beter now yu have fixed the edit buten.

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Missing postal ballots
    ..you think it was a one off ?

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  16. StewGreen says:

    On voting day morning how the heck was the Times forecasting a hung parliament ?

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  17. StewGreen says:

    I wonder what background these lowfives come from.. who drowned a homeless woman so they could collect her benefits ?

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  18. StewGreen says:

    HSBC advert full page on election day
    “over 320,000 people are homeless”
    … that must be on the loosest definition
    ..and misleads people before voting.

    How come such a Political advert was allowed ?

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  19. Swelter says:

    One thing is now crystal clear the left have no mandate at all in this country .Boris has the opportunity to start a serious push back against the Marxists that have infiltrated all our institutions and I hope he takes it because if there is no push back this will turn out to be only a short respite. . He can make a good start by reclaiming our streets from anti fa and climate rebellion mobs . Then roll up his sleeves after Brexit and start on the bBBC and its lovechild Channel 4.

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    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      I hope you’re right and Boris’ New Year resolutions will be:
      a) sort Brexit, and
      b) disband al beeb
      🤞🤞

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  20. pugnazious says:

    Now we know…the BBC is now full of stories of people, life-long Labour supporters, saying they just couldn’t vote for Corbyn.

    Pienaar told us yesterday that he’d heard again and again that voters ‘wanted no part of Corbyn’…Mardell told us that long before the election people had been telling him they just wanted to ‘Get Brexit done’.

    Funny how that message just never came across as the vote neared…where were all the BBC reports that Corbyn and his policies were not winning support and that Corbyn himself was not trusted nor popular? Where were all the reports telling us how desperate the Jews were not to see Corbyn elected? When the Jewish Chronicle filled the front page with a plea not to vote for Corbyn the BBC ignored it, when the Labour bible, The New Statesman, told its readers that it could not back Corbyn the BBC ignored it, when Labour’s Ian Austin told people not to vote for Corbyn the BBC did not quote his damning words when he said Corbyn hated this country, always backed its enemies, supported terrorists and was anti-Semitic, when the ex-head of MI6 said Corbyn should never be allowed into No10 as he was such a danger to national security the BBC ignored him…and of course the BBC ignored his past from which all these concerns stem…his support for Russia, Iran, Islamist and IRA terrorists and his anti-semitism. Boris however had had, the BBC alleged, several children out of wedlock…the BBC attempted to savage him for this ‘sin’ and used it to characterise him as untrustworthy, a man with a woman problem’, and thus unfit to be Prime Minister….Corbyn’s support for murderous terrorists paled into insignificance by comparison.

    The BBC, Lord Hall usually, frequently tries to peddle the idea that the BBC is the gold standard, the one beacon of light and truth in a dark and dangerous world that can be trusted…not long ago telling us that with the Press being so politically partisan and polarising, and a social media that was rife with fake news and misinformation, the BBC was a vital bulwark defending democracy with accurate, impartial news and information.

    Hmmm…was it the BBC that exposed Corbyn and his gang of terror supporting wreckers? No, it was the Press, it was social media, it was concerned citizens…it wasn’t the BBC. If we had had to rely on the BBC we would never have heard of the anti-Semitism, it would have been swept under the carpet, we would never have heard of his long and enduring support for terrorists or the real madness of his economic plans. The BBC only touched on any of this because other news providers in whatever form forced it all into the open and made the BBC address it however slightly in the end result.
    You have to ask why it was necessary for someone like Maureen Lipman to write an article in the Mail condemning Corbyn on the eve of the vote…how did it ever come to pass that Jews once again live in fear in Europe, in Britain, not because of some fringe, extremist, black-shirted thugs but because of who the leader of the one of the most major and historic political parties in this country is. And yet the BBC stayed essentially quiet…preferring instead to give us ‘warnings from history’ and suggestions that the 1930’s were back, along with article after article about either some tiny, marginal far-right group or about groups that the BBC deemed far-right merely because they spoke about controlling immigration….you might have thought that the Nazi tanks and SS Stormtruppen were rolling across Europe once more so hysterical and so ramped up was the BBC rhetoric as it exaggerated and hyped the danger of such groups whilst ignoring the fact that a really dangerous man and his fellow travellers were on the brink of taking power in Britain and that Jews were astoundingly talking of fleeing the country should he be elected.

    The BBC tried its best to put a terrorist, an anti-semite, a hardline communist, into No10. Never forget that.

    One consolation I suppose is that as Lord Hall graces the Islington dinner circuit his hosts are having to make sure they have a handy supply of indigestion tablets on hand. If Brexit gave him wind god knows what this Tory landslide will do to his digestion.

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    • xplod says:

      Pugnazious, that’s a very good analysis of the state of the beeb and it’s denizens. Far more articulate than I could have put it! Can I have your permission to repeat it (with acknowledgement) elsewhere, please?

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      • pugnazious says:

        Feel free…just expect to be labelled a Russian bot by the BBC social media police if caught for disseminating such unacceptable views.

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        • PRW73 says:

          pug,
          I hope you don’t mind, but I’ve copied that to a Word document, not to disseminate widely, but to show my daughter (with acknowledgement of course) if she repeats what she said last week. She said she thought the BBC were biased towards the right/Conservatives. Not wishing to provoke a big argument before Christmas, I merely replied that I thought the opposite! Yours is a very powerful statement and very well argued. Thanks in advance!

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    • xplod says:

      Pugnazious, that’s a very good analysis of the state of the beeb and it’s denizens. Far more articulate than I could have put it! Can I have your permission to repeat it (with acknowledgement) elsewhere, please?

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    • Scroblene says:

      Good one Pug, as usual.

      The BBBC continually avoid remembering that Tony Benn, for all his faults, always said that ‘it’s not the people, it’s the policies that count’.

      As usual, the bbbc try to cloud the issues, mentioning ‘names’ and inverting the real issues is much easier than actually doing what they ought to be doing – REPORT SOMETHING!

      They get paid enough for God’s sake!

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    • StewGreen says:

      So @Pug
      The BBC were cheerleading for Labour
      .. instead of acting like truthseekers

      Proper journalists would have had loads of interviews with 5 or 6 million people who were voting away from Honour-Brexit-Labour
      .. instead of the just the 2 million (?) that moved towards the new Remain-Labour

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  21. Charlie Farley says:

    Swelter and pugnazious
    Good comments, also hope Boris can retrain ( get rid of ) all the civil servants that have been obstructive since the referendum as well as the BBC, and that’s just for starters !

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  22. Swelter says:

    The bBBC has been exposed for all to see over its appalling coverage of this election . They really made no attempt (apart from Andrew Neils demolition of Corbyn) at proper balanced journalism or to hide their left leaning bias. As Pug says in his excellent post above they tried to foist on us a hard line Trotsky government . I will not forgive or forget it.

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  23. Charlie Farley says:

    It will be Interesting to see who is on the Andrew Marr in the morning , no doubt he will be full of c–p and bemoaning the Tory win ….the look on his face Friday was wonderful…perhaps its stuck in that position

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    • Scroblene says:

      Absolutely, Charlie!

      His voice was almost incoherent with rage, but that may have been down to facial rictus at such a huge majority for common sense prevailing over his inability to express anything other than a bilious stream of invective.

      He really is getting past it now, and not a very good questioner either. I suppose they’ll choose a ‘comedian’ next on his dire prog.

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  24. vlad says:

    A good summing up of the election that the beeb would never air.

    Not for the first time, Sky Aus are way more enlightened than our own Sky UK.

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    • pugnazious says:

      Good video Vlad…clear and simple reasoning….how does the BBC not understand? Wilful blindness I guess. The BBC maligns the people who use democracy to press their case as extremist, far-right, racist, stupid, bigoted….but cheers on the real extremists who refuse to accept the democratic process…not just the Remain politicians but also the likes of the ‘Antifa’ mob who swarmed Downing Street yesterday happy to use violence to press their case….or indeed the IRA….and they’ve found some new heroes…the ‘Sardines’ in Italy fighting the ‘far-right’…or rather those the BBC labels far-right.

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      • vlad says:

        And unlike the beeb, the interviewer actually lets the interviewee express his views without interrupting every few seconds.

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        • StewGreen says:

          Yes good video
          the purpose was to listen and learn from the interviewee
          NOT to get him on under a pretext and then rush for a GOTCHA
          .. like emma/Emily beeboids do.

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  25. Donbob says:

    Apropos nothing too much, but I do perceive Sean Ley as a reasonable, unbiased, interviewer and presenter on the ghastly national broadcaster. I do hope I haven’t condemned him to a one-way ticket to the gulags !

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  26. Doobster78 says:

    Love it !!! What a great couple of days it’s been !!!!

    These bubble dwelling luvvies firmly put in their place !!! The sanctimonious little turds !

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    • Scroblene says:

      Who’s the gurning bloke in the middle?

      And didn’t he shag the bird on the other side of the bald nob in some old film?

      We’ll probably know when the bbbc churn out all the tired old flicks that nobody watches over Christmas – THE Christian celebration which happens in ten days time…

      I can’t wait.

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  27. Kaiser says:

    I said they would be out on the streets in 2 days

    no matter how much they lose they wont accept it, time to get tough on these anti-democratic scum

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  28. Nibor says:

    The BBC want to portray the problem Labour has is just the issue of Corbyn . Change Corbyn as leader to someone else and its job done , new leader , new start, people will flock back to the party , the votes ( normal and postal) will flow into the ballot boxes and Labour will return to power .
    The problem isn’t just Corbyn . The problem is also the likes of Keir Starmer , the lot who go from prestige public sector jobs into Labour , or they move from the charity sector into Labour , or from the BBC , media or arts . Jo Cox , the murdered MP was typical of them .
    They don’t want to eradicate the problems workers have , they want to control them and everyone else .they have no affinity with the working class , they have affinity with their own like , both here and abroad . They are the new CLERISY .

    You only have to look at their in house rag , The Guardian and see the letters page . A quarter of those printed are sent in by professors and doctors at universities . They should be in charge , they think , and be allowed to jet to anywhere in the world to meet like minded clerisy to formulate policies for the whole of mankind .

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “formulate policies for the whole of mankind”

      Labour, Liberal Democrats, Greens, State Broadcaster.

      Mix and match.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Agreed, Nibor. Labour have made a colossal mistake by tying themselves to Remain and could compound it by electing a Remainer like Starmer or any of the women Remainers to lead the Party.

      That means any decent democrat – who voted Remain in June 2016 – who is a Labour member and/or regular voter and who is a small p Patriot or lover of democracy, will have a massive crisis of conscience at the next Local Authority election and especially at the next General Election.

      I suspect (and certainly hope) that Bojo’s and the Conservatives’ emphatic victory was also down in part to those Remainers who are ordinary, decent, UK democracy-loving, people and couldn’t stomach voting for a Labour Party without principles with a Leader who equivocates and dissembles and allows himself to be pushed around by extremists, including Keir Starmer.

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  29. StewGreen says:

    Doctor with twisted moral values
    A junior Harold Shipman
    *vid contains top profanity*

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    • Demon says:

      I hope to God that a creature like this upper class airhead never becomes a doctor. Ever! She could not be trusted with patients’ lives or wellbeings.

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  30. pugnazious says:

    Can you remember back to 2015, just before the Tories got their majority, when the BBC was telling us the Party system was broken, there would be no more majority governments…and that was a good thing?

    LOL.

    The BBC is so out of touch, its judgements are all coloured by their personal views and opinions, and even when they know something to be true they manage to block it out ala 1984 and Doublethink if it doesn’t fit the narrative….such as Pienaar telling us that the word on the doorstep was that Corbyn was not trusted and wouldn’t be getting their vote, or Mardell telling us people, Leave and Remain, were insisting that politicians ‘get Brexit done’…..both inconvenient truths ignored by the BBC during the campaign.

    It would be fascinating to see a genuinely independent review of the BBC’s coverage of Brexit and this and the 2017 election. I think it would open a few eyes to just how biased and anti-Tory the BBC really is….you have to think the Tory Party doesn’t have a clue just how much anti-Tory propaganda is spewed out by the BBC…it may have an idea that the BBC is biased but no idea just how strong that bias really is, how casual it is and how readily accepted it is by others without comment on programmes and shows.

    Chiles for example…definitely not a Tory boy. A guest mentioned Jews living in fear #duetoCorbyn and Chiles parried, and dismissed those fears, by saying Jews weren’t the only ones living in fear in Britain…what about those living in fear due to having to rely on foodbanks or on Universal Credit or charity?…all the fault of the dastardly Tories….thus you might not want to vote Corbyn due fear of anti-semitism but consider the fear that the Tories instill in those living in poverty stricken Britain and weigh that in the balance….jews or the poor?

    On the subject of Boris Chiles just started off on a rant about Boris not knowing anything about the Middle East…thus he wasn’t fit to be PM…presumably we were being treated to a well-honed party piece that Chiles put on during his lefty dinner parties when he’d have an appreciative and uncritical audience. Just seemed a very random issue that arose out of the depths of Chiles’ brain rather than any real, substantial concern….Chiles just inventing an issue because he had to say something to criticise Boris.

    Chiles also thinks Boris should get rid of his ‘toxic frontbenchers’…like Pritti Patel and Jacob Rees Mogg. …a BBC-wide narrative that portrays the ERG and Brexit supporters as extremists and ultras, happy to allow the likes of Ken Clarke and Grieve to malign them as ‘far-right’. Laughed to hear the BBC welcome the big majority as it would mean Boris was no longer beholden to the extremists of the ERG and DUP…odd the BBC never characterises the Remain extremists as extremists…the BBC always calls them ‘moderates’ and is quite happy that they can hijack Parliament and hold Boris to ransom.

    Chiles also claims that Boris gets away with murder….he lies and lies and lies and no-one says anything….well first does he lie? and second the BBC is continually trying to tear apart anything he says or proposes and consistently labels him a liar and untrustworthy whilst failing to note Corbyn’s lies and dissembling.

    The BBC plays games with numbers and interprets them the way they want to so that Boris is cast as a liar…such as the £350m, or the 50,000 nurses, or the 40 hospitals he wants to build. Ridiculously the BBC says well, he’s not building them right now so it’s just a lie to say he’s building 40 hospitals. Is that how they interpret every party manifesto? if a policy is announced but isn’t immediately put into action, even before the election, the party is lying? Complete tosh.

    Chiles finished on a doozy telling us that after the election result came in his distraught daughter texted him saying she was never going to give up a seat on a bus to an old person again….she’d make them stand there and force them to think about what they had just done. The crab apple doesn’t fall far from the tree I guess in that family. Not sure why he thought this was a suitable story to tell…puts his daughter in a bad light and illustrates, once again, the sort of hate that is whipped up against Brexit/Tory voters and old people…but is not a concern for the BBC which is so, so concerned about Boris’ hateful language…you know…’Surrender Act’…..lock him up!

    Not a bad days work for Chiles…all in one programme, just a stream of casual anti-Tory, anti-Brexit comments that came all too easily and naturally to him that he didn’t even think twice about saying them or register that they were so partisan.

    Just another day at the BBC.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Chiles did a piece not long ago on whether to have a British passport or an east European (EU) one – I think Croatian ?

      Perhaps he’ll do another documentary – now that we are leaving the ReichEU – about applying the the Croatian passport and leaving Blighty as he and his family don’t like democratic decisions of the British …. certainly wouldn’t be much of a loss .

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  31. ScottishCalvin says:

    A doodle and thoughts on the Labour Aftermath:

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Calvin – you’re wasted on this site ! How did you find out thar Labour had a plan to get the Army to do hand written letters of apology to Gerry Adams ?🤩

      Thank you -must take ages .

      I’ve listen to a bit of al beeb today and they theme seems to be that Corbyn got a bad press – it didn’t go on to say he got a bad press because he has been consistently bad since 1970.

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      • ScottishCalvin says:

        I found the telling thing the segment I saw when the BBC interviewed a bunch of ‘reluctant ex-Labour’ voters, some of whom had gone to LibDem, one green, those who went Tory said they’d return to the fold if the antisemitism thing was better dealt with by someone new.

        Not one mentioned Brexit, other than to deny it had any influence on their choice. All of them were minority voters. I can pretty much guarantee all of them lived in that city they were interviewed in and I’d stake solid money that their local MP is still a Labour one.

        And the BBC is surprised at the result?!

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  32. Stevie m says:

    The SNPee wanting independence, god they kept that quiet. Even the bbc keeping stum

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  33. TrueToo says:

    So happy to see the despicable Corbyn hammered and delighted that he will now never be PM. And three defectors to the LibDems all lost their seats. And Swinson was defeated – after all the hype about how she was going to save the country, if not the world, by denying Brexit.

    Interesting how she and Corbyn blame their defeat on anything but their own failings.

    If Boris had stood up to the EU, these elections would have made my day. My worry is that he will accept Brexit in name only.

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  34. vlad says:

    In this season of goodwill, on behalf of Al-beeb I’d like to wish everyone a Happy Diversity, along with Paul Joseph Watson.

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  35. Scroblene says:

    Excellent, Vlad!

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  36. StewGreen says:

    Bit lucky for Labour that Channel4 chose to wait til after the election to air their drama about the Stafford Hospital deaths in 2007
    “patient deaths at Stafford were 40 per cent higher than the national average, after its managers embarked on radical cost-cutting measures. ”
    “The dirt, disorder and poor care her daughter witnessed during visits were so shocking”
    “On visits she sees nurses hunting for patients who’ve been wheeled into corners and forgotten about, inadequately organised drug rounds and care gaps between shifts, patients who can’t reach their food trays or are so dehydrated they drink water from flower vases. Julie is so distraught that she corrals family members into a 24-hour rota to ensure that Bella is not left for a moment. It isn’t enough.”
    ‘The Cure’ airs December 19 on Channel 4
    https://amp.ft.com/content/fe15c76c-1b38-11ea-9186-7348c2f183af

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew
      I will try to watch that . I’m sure Andy burnham will too – since he was health Secretary at the time – so personally responsible in the way Labour/BBC tried to make BoJo responsible for some socialist putting their kid on a hospital floor and taking a picture …

      Next – the Liverpool Pathway.. we must not criticise the NHS because Health Professionals ££ are all saints … £

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  37. Guest Who says:

    Hitting the hay, and there’s nothing like an ex-BBC editor gem to smile about as the land of nod beckons.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest
      After the excellent result – and 5 years of a real Conservative government to come – I wondered if it will affect the mental health of those already suffering – and by the looks of it Mr Mason is already there.

      There is a YouTube extract of a momentum girl wishing the PM a slow painful death . She adds she wants to work for the NHS and become a doctor . Obviously there are efforts to identify her – she was at the violent Whitehall protest after the election where unfortunately only 2 were arrested . They should have been kettled and identified . I think she has committed a crime under the malicious communications act and is certainly a lefty ‘hatee ‘ crime .
      .
      Now I know people say stupid things . We all do – but this is going to cost her ( hopefully ) when her face is all over the press and they ask her family for ‘comment’…

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      • Nibor says:

        She wants to be a doctor and wish death on people ?!

        Well there was a society that had medical staff like that . They worked in places like Aushwitz until 1945 .

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Nibor – looking at the extract on Twitter – which would be good if reposted here – the kid looked like an affluent southerner who has had no contact with real life and just lives in the bubble . Her view might change when she sees , feels and smells her first dead body .

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        • Foscari says:

          Can you imagine that before treating a patient she will
          be asking them who they voted for? God help the
          poor souls that voted Conservative !!

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      • StewGreen says:

        If you look up the page to 6:26pm Saturday 14th you’ll see I already posted the young doctor’s hatey rant

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  38. StewGreen says:

    Richard Black left the BBC to do his Global Warming PR fulltime OUTSIDE the BBC
    .. whilst his mate Harra does the same thing from inside.
    Their cheerleading for the subsidised inefficient intermittent energy makes us all poorer.

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  39. StewGreen says:

    If a lefty says that the BBC is pro Tory
    ask them which were the 5 programmes they added to their boycott list

    I used to listen to 80% of progs
    then a they got colonised by agenda pushing, I had to boycott them, maybe I just about tolerate 10% of national progs.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “colonised by agenda pushing”

      Great phrasing and sadly what has happened to Radio 4.

      State Broadcaster shuts out too many voices. Those who are left can never voice a balanced output. SB isn’t funded like a newspaper but through taxation. Speak to all not to some.

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  40. pugnazious says:

    No surprise considering just how the BBC streamed a ceaseless drumbeat of persistently malign anti-Boris narratives onto the airwaves but actually is a surprise as who’d have thought the Tories would have the guts…maybe it is the Dominic Cummings’ effect…..

    Downing Street boycotts Radio 4’s Today programme in a bust-up over election bias as a Number 10 source slams the BBC for ‘speaking to pro-Remain Islington, not the real world of Wakefield and Workington’

    ‘Downing Street has boycotted the BBC’s flagship news programme amid ongoing rows over the Corporation’s Election coverage and questions over the future of the licence fee.

    No 10 pulled Ministers from yesterday’s Radio 4 Today programme and intends to ‘withdraw engagement’ from future broadcasts of the show.

    The bitter stand-off comes as the BBC is facing intense criticism over alleged bias in its Election coverage, which included presenter Andrew Neil delivering an on-air monologue criticising Boris Johnson for failing to agree to be interviewed by him. ‘

    But then we did have Nick Robinson comparing Boris to Hitler and Stalin before the election…

    BBC presenter Nick Robinson accuses Boris Johnson of acting ‘like a DICTATOR’ for broadcasting directly to voters in social media videos

    ‘The former BBC political editor, currently a host of Radio 4’s Today programme, called the Prime Minister’s social media use a ‘form of propaganda’ and said it was undemocratic to avoid proper scrutiny by journalists….’It ain’t democracy, it is a form of propaganda used by dictators down the ages.”

    Oddly at the same time he said…

    ‘Mr Robinson made the comments at the Cheltenham Literature Festival – where he also warned against presenters such as himself voicing their opinions.

    Yet more Doublethink from the BBC telling true lies and saying things they know to be untrue and yet believing them completely.

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      The left distort history –

      “If Napoleon had remained emperor of France for the six years remaining in his natural life, European civilization would have benefited inestimably. The reactionary Holy Alliance of Russia, Prussia and Austria would not have been able to crush liberal constitutionalist movements in Spain, Greece, Eastern Europe and elsewhere; pressure to join France in abolishing slavery in Asia, Africa and the Caribbean would have grown; the benefits of meritocracy over feudalism would have had time to become more widely appreciated; Jews would not have been forced back into their ghettos in the Papal States and made to wear the yellow star again; encouragement of the arts and sciences would have been better understood and copied; and the plans to rebuild Paris would have been implemented, making it the most gorgeous city in the world.

      Napoleon deserved to lose Waterloo, and Wellington to win it, but the essential point in this bicentenary year is that the epic battle did not need to be fought—and the world would have been better off if it hadn’t been.

      Read more: https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/we-better-off-napoleon-never-lost-waterloo-180955298/#bLuj8lC8mkjcwcyB.99
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  41. Celtic_Mist says:

    Pug, in the Mail online –

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7793107/Downing-Street-boycotts-Radio-4s-Today-programme-bust-election-bias.html

    Perhaps the BBC backed the wrong horse.

    Apparently Boris will not go for a softer Brexit. Also Cummins has said the Whitehall is not fit for purpose.

    BBC R4 MN R4 news – Newspapers (00:23)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/m000cbvp

    Also –

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/12/14/boris-johnson-plans-radical-overhaul-civil-service-guarantee/

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    • Oaknash says:

      CM and Pug

      I have also just read this – Could it be that the scales are finally starting to fall away from some of our politicians eyes?

      It is interesting that Bojo has stopped listening to Today, one of the reasons I so seldom post here anymore is that I used to listen to Toady when driving around as part of my job and since we voted to LEAVE the EU (please take note Boris) R4 and particularly Toady have morphed into nothing more than the Remain Broadcasting Channel, with the rest of R4 only seemingly interested in the thoughts of practitioners of anal sex, those who worship a child molester, females who have suffered some sort of slight (imagined or self created) or those who would like to change their genitals.

      When I started regularly shouting and swearing at the inanimate radio set when driving to a job , I realised it was finally time to switch off from R4 not only for my safety but also other road users.

      What the article didnt mention however, was that at the last charter review, Whittingdale was the one who bottled it, so in some ways much of the treatment that the Tories received from the BBC at the election was due to his weakness.

      Just such a pity that the politicians are not nearly so concerned about us having to listen to this biased, insufferable, woke sh##e for so many years, and only consider lifting a finger when it started to significantly impact on them personally.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Another promise broken – this time – watching Marr – I gave up years ago but I want to hear the ‘tone’ now – and whether the collective anti conservative sneer continues .

        And whether they will already start to undermine the landslide by concentrating on the National socialist `party of Scotland – which I see as a ‘side show ‘.

        As for the SNP – they mimic the EU with the requirement to keep having votes until they get the result they want – another referendum .

        What will the SNP do if they lose again ? Call for a third referendum ? Blame the English for everything as usual . Tearfully run off the Brussels for ‘help ‘? – with the BBC – of course on their side all the way .

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        • Oaknash says:

          Yes like all left wing “revolutionaries” with the BBC democracy only counts when they get the result they want.

          The BBC is like a promiscuous 17 year old lad who has just found out what is between his legs and is chasing anything in a skirt. Except in this case the BBC chases anything that offers a real threat to the unity and stability of our nation , hence why it sides with terrorists, Labour, Remain and now the Scots Nats.

          The one good thing that has come out of all of this is that the BBC has finally been publicly exposed as the collection of sneering, unpatriotic, anti British traitors, all of us here know it to be.

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        • Celtic_Mist says:

          Fed, On the World R4 service from 1:10 to 1:30 they discussed the consequences of the election. In their opinion the ‘paradox’ of Brexit will lead to break up of the UK ie Scotland and NI. The only thing they weren’t sure about was which would leave the UK first but that it would happen in the next 5 – 10 years.

          This will likely be the ‘narrative’ into the future..

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      • The WestWyvern says:

        If you need an escape from the bias of the Beeb and the rest of the far left remain stream media, try SkyNews Australia, I stumbled across it by accident on you tube. Well worth listening to. No bias like its U.K. Sibling and gets to the point with no agenda pushing. Refreshing and far more balance from the presenters.

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    • The WestWyvern says:

      The not so civil service is long overdue reform.

      I had the displeasure of having to work with representatives of one such department for many years, unwashed, scruffy, anti British, anti industry. Only worried about the next p****-up, or how they could best leverage deals with overseas suppliers to this particular department, so they could get their travel perks.

      Bloody disgraceful lot and unemployable in any other walk of life my old boss would mutter.

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  42. The WestWyvern says:

    From listening to the World Service earlier, the sneer continues Fed, a certain Mr Woricker was promoting the Corbin interview that’s been conducted in which the deluded old commie is actually and unbelievable arguing that he won the doorstep argument during the election campaign.

    Now I liken to the football manager who states his team played the better game, had most possession, created the more chances etc… But at the end of 90minutes there is only one stat that counts, the final score and Jezza got battered 5 – 0.

    The Beeb just won’t admit this however. At all.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Westwyvern
      I gave up on the so called “world service’ when the poison got to it – but I ask this – as the ‘Sunday Game ‘

      Which footy manager is most like Corbyn ? ( within the laws of defamation of course ).- me – Neil Warnock .

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      • The WestWyvern says:

        More of a Cricket fan myself Fed, hoping the great white hope Stokes upsets the racist lefty Beeb by winning sports thingy of the year tonight, won’t be watching tho….

        I’ll offer Brendan Rogers for football.

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      • AnneG says:

        He may have been a good manager, but souness at Southampton played Ali Dia, a fake player for nearly an hour. Does that count.

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        • The WestWyvern says:

          I used to have a soft spot for Saints, and remember that incident.

          To bring it back on topic, ahem. Didn’t Alec Furgeuson ban the Beeb from Old Trafford?

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    • Despairada says:

      Yes, he should have said,: ‘Well, it’s a game of two halves but at the end of the day the best team won and I’m as sick as a parrot’

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  43. Guest Who says:

    The BBC is ‘quoting’ Jeremy a lot currently.

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  44. Guest Who says:

    And Greta of course…

       6 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Her PR team taking the best of Jez. Genius,

         5 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        There is a Greta update
        the actual German train company tweeted
        that it would have been good if she had thanked their staff for giving her a free place in first class.

           4 likes

    • Nibor says:

      Is that why we see her smiling for the first time ?

         6 likes

  45. pugnazious says:

    Odd that the BBC just didn’t notice how bad Corbyn was even when many of his own MPs excoriated him, when Jewish newspapers, leaders and celebrities denounced and renounced him, when even the Labour bible, the New Statesman, couldn’t back him and astonishingly a firebrand union leader turned out to be less radical than Corbyn and didn’t back him.

    There must be something radically wrong at BBC Towers for them to have failed to have noticed….or rather, failed to take the criticism seriously.

       23 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      There has been something radically bad at the BBC for a long time. And someone they are still plummeting further.

         10 likes

  46. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    A warning for Boris.

    I keep hearing that because he has a large majority he can disregard the ERG and will go for a much softer Brexit or Brino.

    I don’t know if there’s any truth in that but what Boris needs to remember is that he won this election because politicians did not carry out the Brexit we voted for, and tried to get out of the commitments to leave the SM, CU and ECJ, as written in the booklet everyone received, and based their in out decision on.

    If he starts to backslide and goes for a softer Brexit then the voter fury will be focused on him and the Tories will suffer greatly.
    If he carries out what he promised (or maybe goes further towards the Brexit we voted for) he will be safe.

    So Boris.
    Brexit got you back in with a large majority.
    Play brino or softer Brexit games and we will get rid of you.
    You can be a great PM or you can mess it up.
    Do what the people voted you in for, it’s that simple.

       21 likes

    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Not good. The Muslim Issue website which was a good source of facts & truth about Islam has been brought down. It seems to have been suspended sometime in 2017.

      themuslimissue.wordpress.com is no longer available.
      This site has been archived or suspended for a violation of our Terms of Service.
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         5 likes

  47. Guest Who says:

    See, this is why I am dubious about polls:

    **

    Raheem Kassam

    After 6,000 votes, the results of this super scientific mega poll are in!

    98% of people trust a feral chicken for their news!
    Just 2% of people trust the BBC or CNN.

    Amazing 😂😂😂

    ***
    2% still trust those clowns?

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  48. pugnazious says:

    Jezza wins the doorstep vote….

    walsh-fake.png?resize=470%2C836&ssl=1

    LOL…this site is part of the fake news industry….the photo came from this site….and it seems sparked a controversy…

    https://skwawkbox.org/2017/04/22/if-corbyn-has-no-chance-why-are-tories-spreading-fakenews-about-him-ge17/

    https://fullfact.org/online/picture-doesnt-show-woman-making-offensive-gesture-jeremy-corbyn/

    Illustrates what the BBC calls ‘fake news’ may actually just be a joke…much like their ‘Dead Ringers’…do we take that seriously and call it fake news or is it just a joke?

    So much of what the BBC calls fake news is not…look at the claims Russian bots were behind the criticism of the ‘boy on hospital floor’ photo….turns out not true at all…just everyday people calling a dodgy looking claim into question….the BBC et al just didn’t like those questions being asked…so it became fake news and Russian interference…..in fact it was the BBC et al’s response to the criticism that was fake news.

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  49. Sluff says:

    Caricature becomes real.

    All those ‘fireside chats’ by the BBC with cuddly Uncle John Mcdonnell.

    It’s really happening on the Andrew Marr show at 0930 !!!!!
    The only thing missing is the actual fire. I hope his central heating is fuelled only by sustainable energy.

    Trotskyist Uncle John is in total denial, claimimg Jezza won all the arguments, and blaming Brexit and the media, and Marr is even now lobbing soft balls at him.

    The final quote summed it up. A comment about the floral curtains !!!!
    I know. But amazingly, totally true.

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    • pugnazious says:

      Yeah…keep hearing Labour say Brexit took over the election with no comment from the BBC….but this was an election all about Brexit…called to call out the Remain dictatorship ensconced in parliament and remove them from power….it wasn’t about the NHS or social care or schools or the police…or only tangentially as issues that can only be dealt with properly when Brexit is no longer the main issue.

      Haven’t seen the interview….did Marr challenge that claim at all? Probably not, he’s such soft touch…we need Andrew Neil…lol.

         5 likes

    • Tabs says:

      During the following interview with actor Brian Cox, Cox said to Marr, “I really admired your interview with John Mcdonnell… I was very moved”. It’s like watching the Oscars.

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