388 Responses to General Election Thread 12 December 2019

  1. StewGreen says:

    Labour Brexiteer Paul Embury was kicked out of his fire union job for warning the left they were getting out of touch.
    He still voted Labour though.


  2. Beltane says:

    Early days, but will the BBC do you think persist in using the same tired, prejudiced and politically pointless ‘personalities’ as Polly Toynbee, Paul Mason, Owen Jones, George Monbiot, Heseltine, Soubry, Clarke, Major and the host of similar has-beens whose opinions are now simply valueless?


  3. Nibor says:

    ” Is this the end of Anna Soubry ?”

    I want to see her face ( for the first time ) when the results are announced .
    She’s blaming the two party system already , although Nigel’s done better with an even newer party .
    She’ll have to join Jackie Ballard , ex LibDim as a frequent face on Question Time that the ordinary people didn’t want to see .


    • taffman says:

      Barry Gardiner is blaming Brexit .
      Well Barry, “its bleeding obvious “. We voted to leave the EU .
      Simples .


    • Fedup2 says:

      Not BBC
      My MP – Ian Duncan Smith – in Chingford – has been re elected . The Labour Party has put huge resources into getting their Asian female Corbynista elected , but – by a wonderful miracle it has stayed a Tory hard brexit constituency and I rejoice …


    • Hereward Wake says:

      Sorry, clicked that by mistake. Eyes getting tired.


  4. StewGreen says:

    On Twitter Labour figures do not seem humble, nor accepting they did anything wrong
    … Rather they seem bigoted, scaremongering and divisive.

    as they shout “evil Tories” etc.


  5. davylars says:

    Anyone heard from Gina Miller?


  6. The General says:

    Brexit Party getting enough votes in few seats to allow Labour to scrape past Conservatives. I was worried about that happening.


    • davylars says:

      I wouldn’t worry to much.
      I doubt most of them wouldn’t vote Tory anyway..


    • thehoiman says:

      It does not necessarily follow that a vote to TBP is a vote lost by the Conservatives. I suspect a lot will be so-called ‘Never-Tories’.


  7. Loobyloo says:

    Wow, Gareth Snell?, Stoke Labour, expecting to lose and giving a damning synopsis of Labour


    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes – rare for a politician of any sub species to speak real and not the usual lies ….

      Andrew Neil has some sort of bee in his bonnet about Tories winning – he asks again and again about what will be done for people who voted for them – well the first is to increase the NIC threshold for contributions which puts money in people’s ‘ pockets …


  8. StewGreen says:

    Recent trend in voting to do with Brexit


  9. Demon says:

    On the other thread I pointed out that combining the votes of the Tories and the BP would have unseated the Labour MP. Therefore I believe the result will not be anywhere as dramatic as forecast.


  10. Scroblene says:

    Well, it really is the Referendum vote isn’t it!

    Lots of blues where reds voted leave…


    • Fedup2 says:

      Peterborough back with the conservatives ! No mention of the fiddling with the postal votes in the last bi election – but then that’s the Biased BBC …


  11. oldmike says:

    watching in canada, the distress of the BBC commentators is palpable and has made my year. Now you just need to get rid of the freeloading socialist loving BBC as an entity.


    • Loobyloo says:

      Watching in the USA, it’s easily my best night of tv of the year 👍😆👏🍾
      Watching the London metro liberal meltdown is sublime. Funny how they can find diverse people to slag off Corbyn NOW, after the vote…uniformly pretending that they acted completely without bias.
      Al Beeb need to go.


  12. tapwatertory says:

    BBC, the guardian, hamas, Hezbollah, the ira, maxicony your boys are taking one hell of a beating.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Yeah – bbc bias – big story about Putney being taken by labour remainers … but no mention of Tories winning Wrexham – which was seen as a. Test constituency during the campaign . London will be all red – but it would wouldn’t it because of the number of EU types …


      • The WestWyvern says:

        Have you got the radio on Fed?
        It’s all Corbin this, labour that… Blah blah blah. Bias…
        They’ve even found Ali Campbell-end who was ‘in the building’

        Unbelievable, or perhaps not.


  13. smoogie7 says:


    Rochdale: Lab HOLD

    LAB: 51.6% (-6.4)
    CON: 31.2% (+2.8)
    BREX: 8.2% (+8.2)
    LDEM: 7.0% (-1.0)
    GRN: 2.1% (+2.1)

    Swing: -6.4
    Turnout: 59.2%




  14. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    Hello Chaps may I join you on this exciting day? It’s looking very promising at the moment.
    It’s a gorgeous sunny afternoon here, really good to see. But alas, I cannot get the BBC so I cannot get to see the looks on the faces of the BBC presenters. I hope our contributors will post a few when the battle is over.


    • Loobyloo says:

      Can’t you watch on the website?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Welcome aboard – the far left BBC types are getting comfort from Scotland and London for labour votes. Neither of course believe in Britain / UK .

      The BBC also seems reluctant to show the actual number of seats by respective parties .. maybe some kind of denial …

      Poor huw is gonna need counselling with the number of welsh seats going blue …


    • Vonbedda says:

      welcome Yasser!…more the merrier 🙂


  15. The WestWyvern says:

    ITV on line had Gina Miller on earlier. Face like a slapped arse.


  16. Fedup2 says:

    Bbc brings in Alan Duncan – former Tory Remainer MP who is such a – shxt that he thinks you – you plebs – don’t deserve a vote – to talk about how wonderful bojo is . Now this queer chap was big on frustrating brexit but he almost got away with it until challenged by the kuensberg .

    Meanwhile the BBC also got Jon landsman in to pretend he is not a mad anti british communist running comrade Corbyn and co … had a look of Stalin about him …. not really challenged but would the BBC do a comrade ?

    Even the BBC analysis of the results so far are biased – anyone looking at the results would see the difference between where the British live and the areas where various ‘multi cultures ‘ live . But that won’t be heard on the BBC .

    Our resident troll has his head down but no doubt is reading this blog and waiting for a bit of cut and paste to signify his moral ascendency . At the moment he can knock himself out as we are going to leave the EU and with a bit of luck have a Right Wing government for a few years … enjoy ….


  17. Swelter says:

    The faces of Edwards and Kunsburg as the night has gone on have made an old man very happy. Also great fun watching Lansman and Cambell taking bites out of each other . A nip of Brandy and bed I feel .


  18. Fedup2 says:

    After all those tricks and deceit in parliament by the remainers the voters are taking their revenge – as well as on an anti british Labour Party .

    And all the anti Tory bile by the BBC of calling out the PM for interview or interrupted interviews by Marr and Robinson et al – it counted for nothing .

    And listening to the hostile interviewing of Newly elected Tory MPs I wonder why Tories bother with the BBC anymore and just refuse to deal with it . Or put the likes of Andrew Neil in his place ….

    The BBC narrative now seems to be the breakup of the UK via the SNP . We will be hearing a lot more about that …


    • Dystopian says:

      I prefer the prospect of the break up of the BBC. Their problem seems to be that they believed their own bubble world bullsh*t.


  19. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    It’s nice to know that the two Devon seats declared so far are Cons.
    Not that I’m usually a Tory supporter but in this election commonsense is called for. Apart from the Brexit Party all the other options are disgusting and evil.
    I’m going out in the sun for a while when I get back I hope to read that Boris has done beyond doubt. Keep watch Fed!


  20. thehoiman says:

    Ha! There was a candidate in Boris’ constituency wearing a ‘BBC’ t-shirt with the ‘C’ is replaced by the Hammer & Sickle. After Boris’ speech he congratulated Boris, saying “Hope you get rid of the BBC”


  21. Fedup2 says:

    Sweater swinson gone on 165 votes Majority to the national socialists of Scotland … pity the poor Al Beeb… priceless …… even more gloom at Al Beeb HQ ….


  22. thehoiman says:

    CON takes Sedgefield!


  23. smoogie7 says:

    Swinson has lost her seat. Very small margin though. Little over 100 votes to the SNP.

    Corbyn has won his seat but will not fight the next GE. It is over. Corbynism is over!

    Johnson won his seat though and no problems there. I feel sorry for one of his fellow candidates who got less votes that Lord Buckethead.

    Good night so far overall!

    Oh, the BBC are looking very glum now!


  24. Swelter says:

    Swinson gone, great… And so on that happy note to bed.


  25. EUTV says:


    Bye Bye Greive, Chucky and Soubs


  26. EUTV says:

    Paul Mason on the BBC telling the voters they were wrong.

    Was waiting for Hugh to ask him to explain how he managed to be a balanced BBC journalist given his extreme views?


  27. Loobyloo says:

    Final comment before I go to bed a happy lady. Al Beeb analyzing the gain of traditional Labour seats by the cons…what could possibly be the reason? They are stumped! Or pretending they are. Well, yes, they voted leave in the referendum, but the reason is that most of those constituencies have been overrun by immigrants and the voters are seeing their communities change for the worse.
    I’m waiting Maxi.


  28. Hereward Wake says:

    Just want to make clear that I clicked report on Nibor’s comment earlier by mistake. Sorry about that, time I was in bed.


  29. smoogie7 says:

    Well Johnson has won the election with a majority.

    The left have failed and failed badly. Labour, the Lib Dems, SNP, Plaid, Green and Sourbry’s lot have all taken a beating.

    As for the media. The Guardian, the Independent, the Mirror, Sky News, C4 and of course the BBC. They have also failed. They tried their mighty hardest to defeat Johnson but he was just too strong for then. All night I have seen Tory gains and Tory holds. Northern seats have turned blue and Labour are now only red through embarrassment.

    It is over. We have won!


  30. Hereward Wake says:

    Praise the lord!


  31. pugnazious says:

    A very downbeat Nicky Campbell trying his best to rain on the parade. But must be happy the SNP did well, so unexpected…he gave Wee Shuggy the easiest of easy rides in her ‘interview’ the other week.

    Gina Miller still can’t accept a democratic result….whilst telling us ‘Get Brexit Done’ was a clever slogan and Boris has the mandate to get on with it and the Brexit law cannot be stopped from going through she and her fellow lobbiests will disrupt, delay and do whatever it takes to make it the softest Brexit possible.

    So even with a mandate to get Brexit she just doesn’t accept it.

    Will the BBC? They were telling us only yesterday that this was definitely a ‘Brexit election’….it always came back to Brexit whatever was being discussed by whatever party.

    Will the BBC be using the ‘Abbotticus’ to tell us the Tories didn’t really win and that the margin was far to thin to prove decisive?

    No doubt the message will be ‘The Brexit voters all want different things, there’s no one ‘Brexit’ so nothing has been decided.’…in fact just heard that put forward…so basically the Remain narrative stays the same and the excuses will be hurriedly cobbled together to justify further attempts to stop Brexit and to force a second referendum….despite this being that.

    Oh…and let’s see the BBC licence fee stopped, the sense of entitlement and self-righteous finger-wagging stopped and them having to get proper jobs.

    Not a bad day’s work yesterday…the BBC stuffed, Corbyn and Labour stuffed and Hugh Grant stuffed.

    Welcome to Brexit everyone.


  32. Halifax says:

    We have voted through the ballot box AGAIN to leave the EU, no deal is required just get it done Boris.

    I just hope that this is all part of Domonics master plan for a No Deal Brexit.


  33. vlad says:

    Below is the Biased Corporation’s picture of Boris’ victory speech, with a hammer and sickle just visible on another candidate’s t-shirt.

    Below that is a fuller photo of the t-shirt, apparently accusing the beeb of being far-left.

    No doubt it’s purely coincidental that the beeb cropped their photo where they did – though I’ve come to mistrust absolutely everything the Evil Empire do.




  34. Beltane says:

    How nice to contemplate what lines Tusk, Verhofstadt and Barnier will be practicing for their next public appearances.
    ‘But Olly and Teresa both assured us the British people didn’t know what they were voting for. And Gina said fret not, it would all be sorted after the election. And Dominic was so confident he just bought another gitte. And that nice Mr Lansman told us he’d make sure Jeremy would go for another referendum. And it would all end happily, ever after.
    Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear…..


    • Up2snuff says:

      Beltane, funny, I didn’t hear any complaints from the BBC that Tusk and Barnier had interfered in the UK General Election.

      No coverage at all.



  35. Doobster78 says:

    What a night !!!! The faces of these BBC bubble dwellers are a absolute picture !!!!

    They simply CANNOT fathom what has happened, they were so sure the country had changed it’s mind on Brexit, after all, they reported that over 300million had marched in London against it !!!!!!

    What a great day !!!! This one night alone is worth the license fee !!!!!!


    • vlad says:

      Doob, I was with you till the last sentence.


      • The WestWyvern says:


        Hope there are a few beeboids sweating a bit this morning.

        Let’s see legislation in the Queens Speech to abolish the tele tax and make the bar stewards compete for their funding on the open market.


    • Dystopian says:

      We can now breathe a sigh of relief knowing that the BBC definitely do not represent the majority of the British public and that the Twitter mob et al are just the very noisy minority. We are finally taking back control. Their bubble has burst.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Are you sure you want to stick by that final line ? – 🤣


  36. The WestWyvern says:

    I observed the unfolding events until around 4am. What’s been very noticeable has been the vitriol, spite and arrogance demonstrated by a good number of losing and now ex MPs.

    Many losers were interviewed by the Beeb and I can’t recall one saying how they respected the vote and the took the result on the chin, stiff upper lip and all that.

    Most were bleating about themselves, their loss, what a terrible night for the country, Corbyns awful, it’s bad for for this, that and the other.

    Not one of those arrogant bastards, even in defeat have any grace.


  37. The WestWyvern says:

    Beeb pushing a line that Boris will now push a ‘softer’ Brexit. Well they hope so.

    Perhaps their politics editor may point out that a vast number of Tory MPs are from hard leave areas. Those MPs will be holding him to account on this.


    • smoogie7 says:

      Well if Johnson wants to go for a hard Brexit what will stop him? He has a majority now and a massive one at that!

      It is worth to mention that all of the floor crossers have lost their seats. Every single one of them!


  38. The WestWyvern says:

    Shame for Dodds to lose his seat. Seemed a genuine decent bloke and sad to loose to terrorists.

    I know there are many pro-scotch on this site, but now can we have a English Indy Ref2, just to shut we Jimmy up please? They’ve already bleated about respecting the democratic result in Scotland. Funny they weren’t so keen on that approach just a couple of weeks past, on the subject of Brexit.


    • Peter Grimes says:

      “Shame for Dodds to lose his seat. Seemed a genuine decent bloke and sad to loose to terrorists.”

      Agree completely. Not only genuine and decent but capable and articulate, unlike most of Labour’s slogan-spouting idiots.


  39. Foscari says:

    BBC-You did your best to get a Labour win.Now Boris ,one
    of the first acts you can pass is to get rid of the license
    OK some of the liberal bigots will be out of a job when
    the BBC becomes a subscription media outlet. The
    Socialist Worker and Trotskyist editors and presenters
    may have to go back to selling the Daily Worker at London main
    line stations. BUT I will cherish the sickly look on Andrew Marr’s
    face when he knew that the exit poll was correct.
    As from the Mikado” I have a little list and none of them will be
    missed.” What a joy it was to see the smirks taken off their faces
    of the “usual suspects” of the BBC political presenters.


  40. Up2snuff says:

    It appears that National Socialism has been pushed back for a while, at least in England and Wales.

    I’m staggered at the Scots. I really thought they were falling out of love with Sturgeon.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Quite honestly, it staggers me too. I have to live with it. The SNP appear to have carte blanche to wreck Scottish education without consequence.

      Part of the issue, I think, is that with so much being decided in Holyrood, many Scottish voters treat a UK election as a chance for a protest vote.

      One glimmer. The SNP share of the vote was 45%. Well short of what they need in a referendum. So Krankie will be careful before calling one. And Alex Salmond’s trial awaits.


      • Up2snuff says:

        RD, some years ago, Scottish education used to be a benchmark for excellence in the whole UK.

        Good point about vote share.

        Had I been in Theresa May’s shoes, I would have got the UK out of the EU without a deal and some way in to a period of the UK’s new Independence, I would have called Nicola Sturgeon’s bluff and granted IndyRef2. That’s all past now.

        Will Bojo do the same?


  41. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1

    Nick Robinson sounds very happy. Bit of a clue?

    JustRemainIn Webb sound not so happy. The Naughty Naughtie who we think we know is a Labour supporter was sounding very flat just before 6a.m. but he had been working for eight hours …..

    ….. just like ‘ordinary people’.


  42. pertelote says:

    I hope they get their referendum..and as soon as practically possible. If they vote to leave the UK I’ll accept it..unlike the SNP re the UK referendum on EU membership. I shall then watch what happens to Scotland with great interest..oh and probably some popcorn!.


  43. AsISeeIt says:

    Boris Johnson will give his vicotry speech under the slogan “the people’s government”

    BBC on line reports : “BBC presenter Andrew Marr observes the slogan appears an odd choice as not all people will have voted Conservative at the election.”

    Can you imagine for one moment, had Corbyn won & used the exact same slogan, that our Andy Marr would have made such a snide remark…? No, me neither.

    Come on Boris – Smash the Telly Tax!


    • vlad says:

      Rubber-mouth Marr also expressed the absurd warning that ‘if you disagree with the “people’s government”, are you then disagreeing with the people and does that make you an enemy of the people?” implying some sort of totalitarian regime.



  44. Deborah says:

    Jobs for Boris

    Get Brexit done.
    Boundary changes,
    Let the BBC go free (abolish ideally but I have to be realistic’.


    • john in cheshire says:

      And reduce the number of MPs; I recall by 50; to 600 but preferably to 500.
      And reform the HoL – the House of Ill-Repute; tell them they can have maybe 100 of them who can vote on the Bills that are passed there and the 100 must reflect the composition of the HoC. The other 700 or so parasites must just keep their stupid mouths shut and we’ll get rid of them as they eventually die off.


  45. vlad says:

    A few minutes ago, a trio of bbc studio commentators were busy dissing Boris, belittling his stunning victory, and most amazing of all claiming that if you added up their parties, a majority of those elected supported some sort of second referendum!!

    I guess they’re using Abbottomus mathematics.

    Scrap the tax Boris, scrap the tax!


  46. pertelote says:

    Marr is one sad bastard ..in all senses of the word. God I am enjoying the BBC right now. My wife just observed “he’s got a funny mouth”..partly because what comes our of it is 100% bile..which is nasty stuff..especially coming from that nasty, twisted piece of work.


  47. Steve Jones says:

    The saddest thing of all is that the faux-socialists at the BBC will still think they are right and the rest of the country is wrong.

    Lets hope for a little one-liner about licence fee reform in the Queen’s Speech. From that moment on the BBC will saturate its airwaves with self-aggrandising nonsense about what good value for money it is and what a valuable service it provides.


  48. pertelote says:

    Some woman on AlBeeb mentioned giving illegal immigrants an amnesty..I bloody well hope Boris does not! If he does put it forward as policy I demand a binding referendum on the issue!


  49. Deborah says:

    7.30 local news in London. Started with ‘Labour won……’, ‘a sea of red in the capital ‘, etc, etc. The BBC’s local political correspondent said re Labour ‘WE will have to reflect on the change of leader’. He could have meant the press, perhaps not.


    • vlad says:

      Throughout the night I’ve noticed BBC commentators and pundits occasionally letting their guard down and using ‘we’ to refer to the Labour party when they should be saying ‘they’.


    • Foscari says:

      Deborah-Asad Ahmad looked like he was in mourning. I
      can’t wait to see Riz Lateef’s face. For those of you not
      from the London region, the Londonistan programme
      is the most blatantly extreme left wing local news
      programme in the western world.
      Lets hope that Boris Johnson makes a success of his
      leadership. I will cheer now and laugh at the humbled
      BBC presenters. But I still fear that there is no way of
      changing the demographics of the UK . And what we have
      in Londonistan will slowly but surely in time , take over the
      whole country.


  50. Guest Who says:


    Ash not looking to Champion either.