439 Responses to Midweek Thread 11 December 2019

  1. taffman says:

    “Who should I vote-for ?”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50291676
    Nice one Al Beeb . But what’s this for ?

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  2. Deborah says:

    My listening to Toady is now extremely limited to a few minutes here and there. Yet twice in the last week I have heard Nick Robinson refer to ‘right wing press’ and re the fake hospital photo and Guido, ‘a right wing web site’. I have not heard him being dismissive of the Guardian as a ‘left wing paper’, but I suppose he believes every word it prints is as unbiased as the BBC.

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  3. taffman says:

    “My boss lets us book hangover days”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50731781
    Would you employ this lot ?

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    • Vonbedda says:

      thats the new generation for you.

      they should be allowed to do what they want when they want, earning money is not a priority because in their minds, the government should provide a basic wage for them.

      If i owned a business, your here to work, you cannot work effectively from home, nursing a hangover, so take it as a sick day, too many of these sick days will breach your contract as an employee and your out on your arse. so boys & girls dont drink on a school night.

      we are giving too many special privileges to the new generations, i feel as though in 40-50 years, it will be common place, employer says to staff, if you don’t feel like doing work today then dont come in we will still pay you a full wage.

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      • Doobster78 says:

        “i feel as though in 40-50 years, it will be common place, employer says to staff, if you don’t feel like doing work today then dont come in we will still pay you a full wage”

        Change that to 4-5 years if Corbyn gets in !!!!

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        • Vonbedda says:

          He cant, he won’t , he shouldn’t, if he does i’m done for.

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          • Doobster78 says:

            I know … i feel your pain. I just want this over !! A 30 – 50 Boris majority and crack on.

            I cannot begin to imagine a Corbyn , McDonnell, Abbott government with the BBC right up their backsides (whats new) and little runts like Owen Jones etc really believing they have some sort of authority !!!

            its quite frankly bloody scary.

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          • taffman says:

            Vonbedda
            You are Boris Johnson.
            I claim my prize !

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    • digg says:

      So if you want to go out in the week and get so pissed you can’t get up and work next day that’s your “right” even if it means your less careless workmates have to work harder to cover for you.

      We used to call that bloody selfish but then again are told we have a selfie generation!

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Vonbedda………”If i owned a business, your here to work, you cannot work effectively from home, nursing a hangover, so take it as a sick day, too many of these sick days will breach your contract as an employee and your out on your arse. so boys & girls dont drink on a school night. ”

        You’ve just described the NHS. Because no-one ‘owns’ it, then no-one is in charge to reprimand slackers and those who work the system re sick leave. More money thrown at it is not the answer, but better management of the cash that IS thrown at it is. Everyone knows this except the likes of Owen Jones and his mates in the Left.

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  4. Deborah says:

    Just had a reply to my complaint about the Marr interview. It obviously took ages to think this up as they couldn’t reply in the required 10 days.

    Thank you for getting in touch about The Andrew Marr Show broadcast 1 December.

    Throughout the general election campaign Andrew Marr has been interviewing leaders and senior representatives from the main political parties. As viewers would expect from one of our flagship political programmes, Andrew is using these interviews to explore the policies they advocate, challenge them on their track records and give them an opportunity to respond to criticism levelled at them by their opponents.

    Two days after the London Bridge attack, a significant part of this interview also examined the circumstances leading up to it, including the Conservatives’ record on law and order and the measures they might put in place as a result. Andrew also robustly challenged Mr Johnson on other election issues, including the NHS, child poverty, social care, and Brexit.

    These are clearly all important to our audience, and Andrew sought to challenge Mr Johnson with facts and alternative arguments. It is not uncommon for politicians, from all parties, to attempt to steer the interview onto their own agenda and when this happens, the presenter may intervene to get the interview back on track, as Andrew did at times here. This is a part of the cut and thrust of political interviewing which viewers understand and which would be the case whoever Andrew was facing.

    Thanks again for taking the time to contact us.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Deborah
      Have you noticed that they never reply in the time they are supposed to – it is usually the ‘ we must refer this to the appropriate team’…I guess the number of complaints has gone up and they don’t have enough people who can read and write English to answer

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  5. Foscari says:

    I have never wanted to be wrong about anything as much
    as this . BUT I fear that the Remain vote.The Millennials vote,
    the Muslim vote will stop the Conservative party achieving
    an overall majority.
    I believe that the Liberals will win more seats than anybody thought
    possible.The Millennials will put their phones down for 10 minutes
    and vote this time. And the more Corbyn is said to support Hezbollah and Hamas,
    the bigger the Muslim vote he will get. And their are over 3 million
    Muslims in the UK now. We could see quite a few Peterborough’s.
    As for the BBC they have given brilliant Machiavellian support
    to the Labour Party. The Trotskiyst, Socialist Worker, Anarchist,
    Liberal Bigot editors, sub editors, researchers, presenters ,with
    the exception of Andrew Neil have done an amazing job. And I
    reiterate I hope I am wrong, achieve their aim of keeping us in
    the EU.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Foscari
      I think there are many of us worrying about this…we just have to hope that even amongst all of these groups there are some that won’t believe Labour
      but I think it will be closer than the pollsters have been saying – we need to ban postal votes except for a few occupations

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    • Beltane says:

      I don’t think you can exclude Andrew Neil, from his last two performances, but this aside I fear you are right.
      I fear that the ‘narrowing poll figures’ are simply preparing the ground for the massive effects of the postal vote, and this combined with the sort of vote counting chicanery already seen at Thanet and Peterborough – and who knows elsewhere? – will result in a hung parliament and a second referendum.
      The only significant hope is that the EU collapses during the next two years of organised dither and programmed uncertainty.
      That reality is far closer than ‘they’ would have us think.

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  6. taffman says:

    “How the BBC reports polling day”
    “The BBC is required by electoral law to adopt a code of practice, ensuring fairness between candidates and that is particularly important on polling day.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48124106
    Anyone remember ‘Dimbledore’s ‘ face when he reported the result of the Great Freedom Referendum in 2016?

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  7. digg says:

    Morning after the 1997 election (Labour win) and the BBC:

    Peter Allen said….

    “so – I had to get a bit of sleep, and I do remember I walked back into – we were broadcasting then from Broadcasting House in the centre of London – all very upmarket in those days – and the corridors of Broadcasting House were strewn with empty champagne bottles”.

    Wonder if they’ve ordered the Champagne for tonight?

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  8. fakenewswatcher says:

    I believe Germany can be quite nice, when the option is living under a Corbyn-Sturgeon-Swinson government.
    The place to go for would be Dresden, centre of the Resistance to the Merkel Regime. In fact, anywhere in the old East, where things are less expensive, and the toxic Greens have not made inroads.
    A contraire, I think the AfD vote share in both Saxony and Thuringia was somewhere around 25%. I need to check Brandenburg.
    Trains and trams are still on time, the medical support one would need without long waiting times is forthcoming etc. etc.
    And they make a mean Schwarzwaelder Kirschtorte, and an even meaner Sachertorte over there, so if you have a sweet tooth, well….
    And a surprisingly large number of Germans want out of the EU and have the glorious Deutschmark back again! You’d be surprised.
    This is all a little tongue-in-check, as I expect Boris to walk it, but you never know….

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  9. digg says:

    I have noticed this morning that the BBC are doing all they can to take all the brownie points they can get from their association with David Bellamy without mentioning that their own environment police pretty much trashed his career.

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    • Charlie Farley says:

      Also news 24 had Bill Oddey giving some deserved praise, but like David Bill had to go ….wasn’t PC with his flirting with copresenter Kate

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      • Beltane says:

        I wouldn’t put Bill Oddie anywhere close to David Bellamy. Oddie is a deeply unpleasant and confrontational little man, using his depression as an excuse for his belligerent and opinionated behaviour. Bellamy would not have counted him among his friends, believe me.

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  10. Guest Who says:

    OMG… Boom… this changes everyfing…

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  11. Dover Sentry says:

    She’s the grand-son of Adam Faith.

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    • Jeff says:

      Grandson?

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        I’ve self identified her as male.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Looks like I’m not the only one on here who isn’t getting the usual opportunity to edit a post today.

          And the whole interwebby appears to be running even slower than yesterday.

          I assume it’s stoodents and snowflakes going on-line to check who they are being told to vote for when they make it to the Polling Station this afto.

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  12. Doobster78 says:

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  13. Celtic_Mist says:

    BBC said academic research has gone into betting odds because these can be most accurate. However, Paddy Power got it famously very wrong regarding the Trump/Clinton in 2016 – for what it’s worth here is William hill –

    “William Hill politics betting

    There’s money to be made from the global machinations of contemporary politics, meaning a browse around William Hill politics odds followed by a shrewd bet on politics is a must for any seeker of value.

    Brexit, the rise of President Trump and Theresa May’s General Election meltdown all saw heavy favourites overturned, and with political shockwaves continually rippling across the planet, that pattern looks set to continue.

    Politics betting has been around since the days of Harold Wilson and Ted Heath. Nowadays, with hundreds of millions of pounds staked on election outcomes, spawning thousands of different markets and a huge range of ways to bet, it’s an entirely different beast at William Hill. ”

    https://sports.williamhill.com/betting/en-gb/politics

    Conservative total seats 300 – 349 is 4/6

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    • Vonbedda says:

      I have to put £10,000 on for labour to win the election, to make enough money, to survive Labour winning the election.

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      • JimS says:

        Ah but then you will be rich and Labour will take it off you!

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Eccles: “Ooohohh!”

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          • Vonbedda says:

            I have a 1ft Garden too, im sure Corbyn will be after me!

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Bluebottle: “Euuugh, is that a square foot garden or a round foot garden?”

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              • Vonbedda says:

                in corbyn’s eyes its big enough to plant a money tree….so i’ll be getting taxed for it.

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                • Up2snuff says:

                  Bluebottle: “I’d like a money tree, I would, I could buy a whole sweetshop, I could. Then. If I had a money tree. How much do money trees cost, then? I could buy one for my Mum on Mothers Day. She would like that, she would.”

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                  • Vonbedda says:

                    Money tree’s can only be found when everyone is least expecting to find a moneytree, some say money tree’s only appear when you bank account is bust and your in copious amounts of debt, even the spiders wont make cobwebs in your wallet….never fear MONEYTREE is here.

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                    • Up2snuff says:

                      FX: sound of approaching footsteps – two pairs of footsteps

                      Grytpype Thynne: “Aah, now, young Vonbedda, I see you have discovered the secret of the Money Tree.” “Please take out your wallet and repeat after me ‘Help yourself’. ”

                      “Thank you, most kind of you. Come Moriarty, we have money now, Switzerland awaits.”

                      Moriarty: “Rich! Heeeeeheee. Moneeee, luvvverly moneee! Ahh haa. Oooheeee. Reeeeeech!”

                      FX: Whoosh

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      Hypocricy of the left –

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  14. Sluff says:

    The Unilever Pension Fund has about 60,000 members and a fund value of around £10 bn.

    We can take it as read that a Corbyn government will devalue those assets hugely, leaving a gaping hole to be either funded by the company out of its profits, leaving no cash for investment or growth, or the company or scheme would go to the wall.

    At which point the Pension Protection Fund would step in, if it could cope with such a huge scheme. Benefits would be capped and inflation protection reduced.

    Meanwhile Labour will offer the public sector huge pay rises and continue their rock solid pension schemes, unfunded but guaranteed by the very same taxpayers whose pensions have been trashed.

    Thus a transfer of funds from private workers to public sector workers on a massive scale.

    And what ‘fact checking’ have the BBC done on this?
    F*** all !!!!!!!!

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    • G says:

      Sluff,
      “…. by the very same taxpayers whose pensions have been trashed.”
      “trashed”? No, stolen.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        G
        I know it’s weird but I was fascinated by pension law after bob maxwell stole the mirror group money .
        The ownership of the fund surplus seems to belong to the company major shareholders but if a fund is in deficit it belongs to all the shareholders ( eg BT ) . If the comrades win today the BT share price will tank and sooner or later the taxpayer will have to pick up the tab when BT is nationalised .

        As for Nationalisation – apart from sheer vindictiveness by the comrades I really cant see the public desire for it . There are more pressing things to spend tax money on .

        If it goes badly for labour and the comrades are ousted from their party ( difficult as they run the whole thing now ) I wonder if the blairites will return again ?

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      • john in cheshire says:

        As I recall, it was the Prime Mentalist who started stealing from pension funds very soon after he became Chancellor in 1997.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          John
          – yes that’s right – they were tax free as I recall but brown imposed one of those ‘ windfall taxes ‘ used to keep the money tree going .

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          • Scroblene says:

            That was about the time that the government screwed Equitable Life, and cost millions of tax=payers their future pension prospects.

            Still waiting…

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  15. countryblues says:

    Only four candidates in my area : Con ; Lab ; Lib and Green.

    I wasn’t intending to vote for any of them 🙁

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    • scribblingscribe says:

      Fine, in which case do not complain when Corbyn and MacDonald are interfering with your life.

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      • countryblues says:

        Your comment makes no sense…I have cast my vote. I would have preferred more choices that’s all 😉

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        • Vonbedda says:

          Think Scribblingscribe jumped the gun a little.

          No harm done

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        • scribblingscribe says:

          Sorry country. From your first comment I thought you weren’t going to vote. Choices in a democracy always good.

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  16. Up2snuff says:

    Am not posting on here today because I’m boycotting Radio4. So there!

    Just been to vote before peak grot hits the area weather-wise. Steady stream of voters there, mostly elderly who walked and lots arriving by car. Obviously, XR has some work to do still to convince the population of Global Warming, Climate Change and a Climate Emergency.

    Didn’t have to hold my nose.

    Instead, I thought of Dave Merritt and his shameful exploitation on behalf of the Labour Party of the death of his son, Jack. That was enough to direct my cross on the Ballot Paper. I despise the Labour Party for the way they exploit people and our institutions.

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  17. Jeff says:

    I’ve heard that Saint Greta has broadened her area of attack and is now going for “the patriarchy” the “indusrialised world” and…you’ve guesses it, “racism”. I wondered how long it would take.
    Look, I don’t blame the poor kid. She’s clearly got huge personal problems and is manipulated by rather sinister, hard left parents….and (let’s be honest) she’s not dealing with a full deck.
    The fact that she has been so readily and uncritically adopted by the liberal elite shows just how devoid of moral principle these chancers are. They’ll follow any fashionable slogan. They’ll believe anything so long that it’s in vogue…
    I’m afraid Greta’s latest ramblings have revealed what a lot of people have always suspected, the green movement is essentially a camouflage for the ultra left. Like a political water melon it’s green on the outside and red on the inside.
    But what about poor Greta?
    I think her golden halo is showing signs of rust…

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    • Up2snuff says:

      “She’s clearly got huge personal problems and is manipulated by rather sinister, hard left parents….and (let’s be honest) she’s not dealing with a full deck.”

      Eccles: “She’s certainly getting shuffled around quite a bit.”

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      • Scroblene says:

        It’s a bit like the way the Labour party dealt with Ed Miliband and his peculiar fantasies, and the gullible BBBC fell for it all as well, which was so hilarious!

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        • Sluff says:

          If Greta was in a boat going across the Med. from e.g. Libya ( unlikely since she is white and female I grant you) then she would certainly be classed as a ‘vulnerable child’ by the liberal intelligentsia, ‘Shave the Children’, and the Far Left. She would have to be taken into care by the state for safeguarding reasons alone.

          But no. She is saying the right things’ so mysteriously she is not a ‘vulnerable child’ but a ‘mature adult’.

          How weird is that.

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  18. The Sage says:

    Another five-star BBC headline:
    “What are beauty pageants really like for black women?”

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    • StewGreen says:

      BBC loves identity politics
      Right now black women hold four different beauty pageant titles
      ..but they’ve had winners for a long time it’s not new.

      The BBC will never admit the truth that attractiveness is not racially equal.
      In many parts of the world especially remote areas they strangely think that white people are universally more attractive
      … like even white people who wouldn’t be considered attractive here.

      I guess that there some other reciprocals eg that white people feel that Indian people are better yoga teachers or more in touch with nature etc.

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    • StewGreen says:

      BBC Newsbeat is the only BBC account tgst officially promoted this story
      “BBC Newsbeat
      “I was afraid to wear my hair curly
      because I knew it didn’t fit the European standard of beauty”

      em in the 60s and 70s a lot of European women had perms cos they felt straight hair “didn’t fit the European standard of beauty”
      ..I think it’s called fashion.

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  19. TrueToo says:

    Been out of the scene for quite a while but thinking of esteemed colleagues here and the dilemma you face of choosing the least worst ‘government’ today.

    Meanwhile I’ve noticed that the BBC continued its far-left bias right up until the election, even though it is obliged to be unbiased – especially at this time. I doubt the BBC would even know how to be impartial.

    All the best, and I’ll be holding thumbs for you.

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  20. Hereward Wake says:

    For some reason (and I’m sure it was an excellent reason) our polling station got moved this time, for the first time since I started voting back in the 70s. Which meant we had to walk much further than usual, in the pouring rain, and if it hadn’t been for another stalwart voter we met along the way, we wouldn’t have found it. And when we got there we found two other polling stations all under the same roof. So, suddenly the previous locations were unavailable? I wonder how many others will make it. And, yes, I’m sure we’ll get a good explanation – from the same source that told us that hundreds of students being registered to vote without their knowledge was a ‘mistake’.

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  21. Thoughtful says:

    LMAO
    The Abbottomus strikes again, by wearing two different shoes to go to the polling station !

    22148650-7784881-image-m-33_1576149230824.jpg

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    • Beltane says:

      Just like Jon ‘Just joshing’ Ashworth, our Di makes a humorous point of keeping left. Any suggestion of early-onset dementia is out of order and quite unneccessary.

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  22. digg says:

    Sir Paul McWatsit ex beetle on R4 getting behind the veggie brigade following the flak over the school who are now only going to serve vegetarian food to all their pupils whether they like it or not.

    In his opinion kids are much cleverer than adults and always have the best ideas etc. (Just look at Greta! – my comment!)

    He then goes on to push his Christmas Songs about to be released, payback for spouting the BBC line I guess!

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  23. Lucy Pevensey says:

    A “48-year-old man” has been arrested after a suspicious device was found in the same building as a polling station in Motherwell, Scotland.

    A bomb squad were called to the Glen Tower flats around 1am on Thursday morning after the device was found on the ground floor.
    A community room within the building was due to be used as a polling station.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    Israel bans UK based Hamas terrorist
    “Those getting their news from the BBC will not be aware of this story from last week:

    “Israel’s Defense Minister Naftali Bennett on Tuesday signed a ministerial decree imposing financial sanctions on a London-based terror suspect believed to have ties to Hamas.

    The decree states that all of Mohammed Jamil Mahmoud Hersh’s assets in Israel are to be frozen, while foreign institutions operating in Israel risk fines for doing business with him. Hersh, a Hamas activist deported from Israel in 1992, is currently living in the UK, where he works for the Arab Organization for Human Rights in the UK, a charity affiliated with Hamas.”
    https://bbcwatch.org/2019/12/12/bbc-news-ignores-counterterrorism-sanctions-against-uk-company-director/

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    • Dystopian says:

      “ London-based terror suspect believed to have ties to Hamas.”
      Not Islington by any chance…….?

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  25. Tabs says:

    I complained to the BBC about them not covering the news that Dianne Abbott’s son bit/spat at the police and was arrested. I think it is important to cover as she could soon be Home Secretary and in charge of the police.

    This is the BBC reply to my complaint:
    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    Thank you for getting in touch about the range of items covered on BBC News.

    We raised the issue of reports elsewhere in the media regarding Diane Abbott’s son and our own approach to covering the incident.

    Senior News staff and editors respond:

    “While Diane Abbott is a high profile public figure and Shadow Home Secretary, her son is an independent adult. We needed to consider why it would be justified to report a story about him when the main reason for doing so was his mother’s prominence.

    We thought hard about this story and decided not to run it on BBC News because we were not satisfied that there was a sufficient public interest justification for doing so.”

    We realise you may disagree, but we hope this explains some of the issues involved when assessing different events for coverage across BBC News. We appreciate the time you’ve taken to share your views too.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>

    The BBC bias isn’t even subtle anymore.

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Tabs,
      We KNOW the approach would have been entirely different if it had been Boris Johnson’s son. We really do need to get the BBC shut down.

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      • Tabs says:

        Yep. The BBC didn’t mind reporting that a neighbour of Boris Johnson made an illegal recoding of an argument between Boris and his girlfriend. How was that in the public interest?!?

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        • StewGreen says:

          That was a story about Boris, so legitimate.

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          • Scroblene says:

            I bet Cliff Richard would have liked to have had some privacy when his pad was ‘buzzed’ by the awful BBC hacks, hoping to find a ‘story’.

            Pretty well all of their ‘journalism’ is just farting in the faces of the tax-funders like most of us are, with their childish innuendo and feeble investigative acumen.

            Of course, their ‘managers’ tell them what to say all the time, but we never even see or hear that particular elite.

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    • StewGreen says:

      So crimes of politicians children should not have elevated reporting
      … hmm bet the BBC have elevated it when it was non lefty politicians children/relatives.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        That’s a case which needs to be put in the long term memory file . The nature and location and victim of the alleged assault is significant .

        The fact that his mother is a politician , shadow home sec and has spoken about assaults on emergency service workers

        -and that she tried to get the Telegraph to not report it at all .

        I wonder if the BBC will report the trial .? In February ? After all – it’s as much a public interest issue as The TR travesty – and a charge for which the accused may well do time ( suspended of course ) – quiet words .. give and take …

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    • smoogie7 says:

      Yet of Boris Johnson’s dog barks at someone then they will interrupt regular viewings just to let us know

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    • Dystopian says:

      But if it was a story about a distant relative of say…Winston Churchill and useful for smearing Boris………

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    • pertelote says:

      Tabs – “I complained to the BBC about them not covering the news that Dianne Abbott’s son bit/spat at the police and was arrested.”

      Sorry to hear that Tabs..are you out on bail?

      😉 ..ain’t English a wonderful language.

      p.s. ..seriously ..for a moment I read it the way I allude to.. cos nothing would surprise me with that lot and the law in UK these days!!

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  26. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  27. MarkyMark says:

    “A nation can survive its fools, and even the ambitious. (Boris Johnson)

    But it cannot survive treason from within.(Theresa May)

    An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly. (Anjem Choudary)

    But the traitor moves amongst those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the alleys, heard in the very halls of government itself.(Jeremy Corbyn)

    For the traitor appears not a traitor; he speaks in accents familiar to his victims, and he wears their face and their arguments, he appeals to the baseness that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation, he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of the city, he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to fear.”

    Marcus Tullius Cicero

    Start the Week Open Thread 22 October 2018

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  28. vlad says:

    The R.o.P.

    “Pakistan protest: Patients die as lawyers ransack Lahore hospital.

    Three patients died when hundreds of lawyers attacked a hospital in Lahore during a furious dispute with doctors.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-50757383

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  29. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Own goal!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ok – if the Election result doesn’t go the way the BBC wants how soon will

      “ voting irregularities “
      “ unfair omissions from the register “
      Or
      “ confusion at counts “
      Or
      “ polling stations closed early “

      Start turning up as the legitimacy of the outcome has to be undermined …. as well as the good old reliable “ people were too think to know what they were voting for “…..

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  30. Dystopian says:

    I’ve heard some hearsay about young voters complaining that they were turned away from polling stations because the elector said they had registered for postal votes. But the youngsters claimed they hadn’t. Sounds to me like they were attempting to vote twice. Has anyone else heard this. Sorry, I haven’t had the time to catch up with the thread today.

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  31. chancygardner says:

    Anyone who follows shares, for whatever reason, may also have seen a spike in the market during the last half hour of trading.

    Do you ever get the feeling that people who need to ‘know’ always get to ‘know’, even though they are not supposed to ‘know’ hmm?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Chancy – yes I day trade but I think the spike was more linked to US China than the coming count . I think the pound / Reich mark will be a better indication . …. I’m watching that too – if it gets to 1.19 … or more please ….

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      • chancygardner says:

        Fedup/Taff,

        You are both right of course and the spike is more related to the Trump/China talks. I got excited, posted too soon, realised my post was foolish, went to edit, edit not working…foolishness now permanent.

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    • taffman says:

      chancygardner
      “Trump says US and China ‘very close’ to trade deal”
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50763143

      If this goes through IMHO they will ‘spike’ higher ?

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  32. Dystopian says:

    Also I seem to be unable to edit posts today, hence the lack of a question mark on my previous post.

       2 likes

    • taffman says:

      Dystopian
      Me neither

         2 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Don’t know what’s going on with the edit function and I hope we don’t lose the site . I blame momentum nastiness . If it goes bad for them they’ll chuck teddy in the corner across the weekend …

           9 likes

  33. Dystopian says:

    Let’s hope Abbott isn’t counting the votes!

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  34. Dystopian says:

    I’ve just seen a TV ad with a typical lefty “children can save the world’ theme.
    Apparently, I can adopt a Jaguar.
    Cool. Can I have an E type please?

       26 likes

  35. smoogie7 says:

    Well I just voted for Tory Connor Burns. Decent MP and a safe seat anyway but with two Universities who knows what tricks Labour have in store.

    A nervous wait until the exit poll is announced and then the big reveal throughout the night.

    How will be BBC contain their bias if Labour win or lose a seat?

       16 likes

  36. Bogtrotter says:

    A moving interview with John Crilly was shown on BBC Breakfast this morning:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50744983

    “A reformed ex-prisoner who fought the London Bridge knife attacker with a fire extinguisher has said he was prepared to die to protect others. John Crilly, who was jailed for murder after a burglary went wrong, said he tackled Usman Khan while believing he was wearing a live suicide belt. I was screaming at him to blow it. I was prepared to lose my life.”

    Crilly was close friends with victim Jack Merritt, the co-ordinator of the Learning Together programme, who he said changed his life. When asked if he felt he was a hero, he was clearly choking back the tears as he said: “No. Jack gave up his life, he would be my hero.”

    It then cut to two straight-faced presenters in the studio, and a slight pause before Naga said ‘it’s ten past eight’ and they moved on to the sport. No comment or show of empathy, but then it didn’t really tick any agenda boxes.

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  37. scribblingscribe says:

    I have just been emailed (18.20 on election day) a missive from Labour, supposedly from Corbyn, giving reasons to vote Labour. It also helpfully tells me where my voting booth is, which is very clever. But shouldn’t electioneering have stopped on election day?

    Anyways , I voted for Boris a couple of hours ago, so too late.

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    • Third Duke says:

      Hmm, having saving/editing issues earlier also. Typical shabby Lefty trick . . .
      Anyway, another 3 in the bag for Boris from us. Now all we need to do is make sure he holds good on his most recent Beeb comments!

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  38. Deborah says:

    6.30 London local news telling us that Londoners spend a fortune every year on takeaways. But I thought until tomorrow we were all living in austerity and being fed by food banks.

       11 likes

    • Vonbedda says:

      Different world in London. however i’d not like to live there.

      Its about time though that London didnt come first… sorry to any londoners about on this page.

      the Services & Infrastructure around all of the UK is in dire need of investment. London can take a back seat for a while.

         10 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Von – sorry – I just don’t understand – I’m a Londoner ( not by choice ) – and what is this you’re saying ? There’s somewhere else apart from London ? Where is that ? Are there humans there ….. sorry … my nerves are going and the Euro has strengthened against the pound quite a bit ……

           8 likes

        • Vonbedda says:

          haha I didn’t mean to offend…but I’m very good at offending and they always say you should do something your good at… ????

          I suppose I generalised London a little bit.

          and surely you know humans don’t exist anymore in this world…it’s only groups of victims with different labels to enable more people to feel like victims.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Von
            Absolutely no offence – I used to work in Westminster and know all too well about the bubble . Wandering around the country going to footy matches I was often shocked at how badly served a lot of towns are by public transport – yet alone anything else.

            Never seemed right that every thing seems to lead and focus on London – which in my judgement – is full up .

               5 likes

            • Vonbedda says:

              I thought about it earlier…the whole…it’s the capital and it must come first…the place that supposedly represents the rest of the UK.

              well imagine you run a bathroom…you have 4 cubicles.

              1 cubicle you spend all your time and attention on and the rest every now and then you spray with a little bit of water to wash away the shit. why would you want your capital…your thrown…surrounded by shit.

              shit analogy…but I have alot of shit on the brain ATM.

              glad no offence was taken…bloody Londoners…

              I’m a midlander …come at me ????

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    • Dystopian says:

      Next….the obesity ‘crisis’.

         2 likes

    • Beltane says:

      But it’s not takeaway to them Debs – just home cookin’ by proxy.

         4 likes

  39. Dystopian says:

    Apparently the BBC have done a ‘remake’ of Dracula, but have not ‘modernised’ it. I’ll believe that when I see it. Especially knowing that he (she? It? ) came from TRANSilvania!

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  40. Cassandra says:

    Most blissful day in three years, no radio station could discuss politics. Saw this and felt I had to pass it on…

    I’ve just been to vote and the ballot paper was huge.
    That’s probably because the word ‘Labour’ had been translated into 167 different languages just to make sure.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Cassandra:

      They can still agitate over American politics, as a displacement activity.

      Yesterday, the Today programme had Aron Sorkin on. He wrote the dreary Liberal wankfest “The West Wing” back in the day. He’s written a play, but the real reason he was on was to talk about how bad the Orange Man is, and why he must be impeached.

      This morning, they had another ham shank on, Michael Lewis. He’s written a book, but the real reason he was on was to talk about how the Orange Man is bad, and will lose the next presidential election.

      No agenda, obviously, as the BBC is free, fair and impartial. It’s just that out of 350 million Americans, they cannot find a single one who defends the President. Just bad luck I guess.

      Then they had a hard hitting debate on climate change between a man from the Grantham Institute and a woman from Greenpeace (or it may have been Friends of the Earth, whatever). My, they really went at it like hammer and tongs, in the sense that they totally agreed with everything each other said in the global war against a harmless trace atmospheric gas. Made for gripping listening, let me tell you.

      Then Bill Oddie was on to remember David Bellamy. He just about managed to say that the BBC ruined his career and blacklisted him for climate heresy, and then sadly we were out of time, so sorry.

      All in all, just another day in the left wing echo chamber of BBC broadcasting.

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  41. Dover Sentry says:

    Still amazes me that Corbyn was allowed to appoint his ex-lover as Shadow Home Secretary.

    I don’t think that the BBC expressed concerns.

    However, if Boris had done something similar…

       14 likes

  42. vlad says:

    Soon after the shootings in Jersey, the names and pictures of the killers were all over the media.
    Strangely, two days later, our most trusted and most subsidised Broadcaster has yet to catch up with the photos.
    Also the connection with the sinister, racist (and bonkers) Black Hebrew Israelites was known within minutes, yet the beeb choose to still refer to the attack by the vague term ‘antisemitic’ – more evocative of the white far-right.
    No doubt only once the story has slipped down the ratings will the beeb drip-feed some embarrassing facts.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50764276

    David-Anderson-Francine-Graham.jpg

       8 likes

  43. dafydd says:

    Hope this is not a bad omen but just received an email from Conservative head office asking me to get out and vote and remind family members who can vote to do the same….It states that the Labour voting turn out is massive and it is now on a knife edge..

    God help us if Corbyn sneaks it

       12 likes

    • Halifax says:

      Calm down everyone trust the British people.

         8 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      The only difference between the Tories and Labour is the speed which they run the ship on the rocks.

      Corbynmight be an atrocious prospect, but Boris is supporting Iran gaining nuclear weapons.

      Can anyone here imagine anything worse than a Iranian nuclear bomb?

         6 likes

      • Oaknash says:

        Totally agree Thoughtful – This whole “election ” is merely another pantomime. Just like when Theresa uttered her meaningless “Brexit means Brexit” trope. We all hope/think that Boris will be delivering the goods.
        But think about it
        Labour want either remain or BRINO
        Farage stands down most of his candidates
        Boris has managed to negotiate a “fantastic” deal which is virtually the same as Treason Mays “deal”

        Who stands to win.
        Clue = its not democracy or the British electorate.

        Who is the winner here?

           0 likes

    • taffman says:

      Dafydd
      If you are a betting man, some bookies have quoted odds of Conservative majority 4/11 and Labour majority 25/1.

         5 likes

  44. Doobster78 says:

    Have Tower hamlets & Peterborough declared yet ???

       9 likes

  45. chancygardner says:

    Well…soon be making my little journey down to the counting house as a counting agent.

    I’ve no idea what the procedures are for the counting and separating but I guess it will be pretty obvious after a while. In any case, you can be sure I’ll be watching ’em all like a hawk!

    The result of the national vote will probably be known to you all before I leave the confines of said building. Experts seem to be able to accurately extrapolate the figures fairly soon after the first results come in, if I remember the ‘swingometer’ correctly.

    Right..where’s me coat?

       11 likes

  46. Halifax says:

    It’s started…From the BBC

    Forty-eight people were given the wrong ballot papers and will have to re-cast their votes in the general election, a council has admitted.

    The mix-up happened at a polling station in Mossley Hill, Liverpool, which serves two constituencies.

    Ballot papers for Wavertree constituency were mistakenly issued to Riverside residents.

    The incorrect votes will be discounted and a review has been ordered, Liverpool City Council said.

    The authority said it was making efforts to contact those involved to give them the opportunity to vote for a second time before polls close at 22:00 GMT.

       10 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      “The incorrect votes will be discounted ”
      er no they won’t cos it’s not like your ballot paper has your name on it
      All they can do is count the votes in a box, then when the total count comes in bear in mind that if a candidate won by less than 48 clear votes the result is not clear.

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  47. Dover Sentry says:

    I received 89 polling cards in the name of Khan last week.

    I’ve just returned from a lengthy session in the booth.

    I voted Conservative on their behalf. It’s what they would have wanted, I’m sure.

       14 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      I wonder if Merritt’s dad has done his son’s vote by proxy
      cos “that’s what he would’ve wanted”

         8 likes

  48. Beltane says:

    Like the majority on here I hope and pray the scaremongering is just that and Boris gets a comfortable majority.
    If he doesn’t, never forget who we have to thank for the privilege that awaits: Major, Heseltine, Gauke, Grieve, Soubry, Clarke, May, that dog-faced Chancellor whose name I forget for the moment, Osborne, Bercow and several others of lesser status but equal duplicity. Hammond, that was it. There must be a psychological reason for mental blocks.
    Anyway, all those noble, patriotic and statesmanlike Conservatives whose treachery has now ensured we enjoy the best efforts of the worst ‘government’ in our history.
    Do hope I’m wrong…..

       10 likes

  49. Roland Deschain says:

    Not to worry everyone, but my student daughter says everyone in her year seems to have voted. She didn’t say how many times.

       8 likes

  50. Halifax says:

    Good luck everyone

       4 likes