439 Responses to Midweek Thread 11 December 2019

  1. StewGreen says:

    BBC seemingly cares about convicting more rapists
    .. They made a special prog about it in Africa
    … But the don’t see working class grooming British grooming gang towns as within their remit.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07xbwhr

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  2. vlad says:

    Pictures are emerging of the antisemitic White Supremacists who shot up the kosher deli in Jersey…

    https://scallywagandvagabond.com/2019/12/david-anderson-francine-graham-jersey-city-shooting-suspects-jewish-attack/

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  3. pugnazious says:

    We hear that 60 businesses have written a letter to tell people to vote LibDem….but I haven’t heard anything about the 15 Labour former MPs who have written a letter telling voters Corbyn is not fit to be PM due to his anti-Semitism and links to terrorism.

    We heard a lot from the father of one of the victims of the London Bridge attack who has accused Boris Johnson of using his son’s death “to score points” in the general election….curiously no-one dares point out the obvious….this man is using his own son’s coffin as a soapbox to score political points himself….he’s a Corbyn supporter….never mind it was Labour who started the ‘point-scoring’ making statements blaming cuts to policing…and it was the BBC during the debate on the day of the attack that was encouraging the politicians to comment on it….now they attack Boris for having done so himself….and only saying what he’d been saying for months anyway.

    Odd not heard the BBC giving this woman any similar time for her far more pertinent and authentic comments about Corbyn and the IRA….

    And even odder that I’ve never heard the BBC menton the ‘fake nurse’ used by Labour in one of their ads…and yet the BBC, so concerned about trust, truth, fake news, lying politicians, constantly states Boris can’t be trusted and relentlessly and repeatedly lists his supposed ‘lies’….and yet when do we hear anything similar about Labour? Only today they wheeled in someone from Plaid Cymru who had clearly invented a ‘policy’ purely to get attack headlines against Boris…he had decided that lying by politicians should be made illegal…this gave the BBC the chance to wheel him in and give him an opening to allow him to reel off the old list, without any challenge of course. Blatantly a stunt engineered to malign Boris on the day before the vote, blatant bias from the BBC.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Turns out she’s yet another luvvie dahling actress who has worked for the BBC.

      No surprises there then !

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  4. taffman says:

    \\Brexit: Free trade deals ‘won’t offset leaving EU’//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-50719616
    Is this the final attempt of Project Fear by Al Beeb?
    Rather timely what .

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  5. pugnazious says:

    Why does the BBC give any credence to this girl at all?

    ‘Greta Thunberg : ‘Almost nothing is being done”

    Nothing being done? She’s an idiot. And so are all those who listen to her….but then of course many of those applauding her are actually cynically exploiting her for their own ends. It suits them to say ‘nothing is being done’ despite the fact that a massive amount is being done…it allows them to ramp up the rhetoric even more and make even more outrageous demands.

    Where’s the famed and celebrated BBC ‘Reality Check’ when it’s needed eh?

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Most of the ‘greens’ and eco nutters are nothing more than a hiding place for the far left Marxists, displaced after the fall of the Soviet Union and the move by Labour towards Fascism which doesn’t suit them.

      The sad thing is that there are Marxists within the Tory party such as Michael Gove only too willing to sign up to the latest far left agenda.

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    • Charlie Farley says:

      Didn’t see a BBC report of UK sailor being flown out to sail her boat to Mexico…all that pollution

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  6. pertelote says:

    Vb..that would be..delicious! ..they are surely the scum of the broadcasting world?

    and remember everyone.. VOTE LABOUR – VOTE FILTH!

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  7. digg says:

    “The man who started the Milkshake Spring: ‘People were offering me free desserts”

    The delightful Damien Gayle contributes an article in the Guardian glamorising and almost thanking the youth who started the milk-shake throwing episodes.

    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2019/dec/11/man-started-milkshake-spring-people-offering-free-desserts

    They even include a Twitter link which reveals thousands of “thuggish” comments in support of him, some with undisguised wishes to do much more harm – and it has 15,000 likes!

    That’s 15,000 of the Corbyn voters to be sure then!

    No surprise that a resume of lovely Damien’s past offerings are pretty much 100% along the lines of Bash Boris – Support XR – etc. would not be surprised to discover he is a Momentum Member”

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  8. pugnazious says:

    Haven’t looked at this in detail but you can get a sniff of something interesting….the BBC using fake ‘fact checking’ service? Hmmmm…and they absolutely blasted the Tories for setting up their own fact checking service for the debate…obviously ‘Tory’….but you know, the BBC told uus, youu just can’t trust Boris.

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  9. Sluff says:

    By way of light relief, may I recommend the neat summary of every Labour election strategy coming in at 11.59 for approx. 30 seconds.

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  10. pugnazious says:

    Had to laugh at this…

    Warsi is of course Muslim and not fan of Hindu India.

    This is a woman who constantly bombards us with claims about Tory Islamophobia and gets endless invites onto the BBC to do so…indeed her comment about the Hindi music, allegedly put on by a Hindu Tory supporter and not done by the Tory Party itself, was commented on by a BBC crew who thought the Tory effort laughable, and of course they quoted Warsi’s tweet….suddenly celebrating diversity and kicking out hate and racism seemed to have been forgotten…but then the BBC doesn’t like Hindus either.

    The hypocrisy of Warsi is unbounded……how can she say this…‘Do British Indians need a Hindi song set to melodious Bollywood tunes to encourage them to vote for us? Are we back in the British Raj?’….and have this picture pinned to the top of her twitter feed….dressed in a sari and boasting about being a Muslim….

    And I don’t remember her ever saying anything similar about the very divisive ‘Asian Network’…just why do people of Asian descent need their own network in the BBC’s opinion?…..are they back home in India or are they living in Britain? Why is the normal radio fare not good enough for them? Surely it encourages ghettoisation, polaristaion and separate, divided communities with no shared values or experiences.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I say – all a bit tribal wot … she’ll be moaning about understaffed curry houses next … some one ask her how much her people are getting in free bees from the British taxpayer …. although the FT today cheekily reports on closing the international ministry of giveaways into the FCO – or even better the ministry of war …

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      • Charlie Farley says:

        There’s always plenty of illegals looking for work , at least they can’t vote….or do they ?

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  11. Guest Who says:

    Is it Ash Wednesday on the BBC too?

    Interesting how the Labour Party gobs and BBC ‘guest’ list is the same.

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  12. Demon says:

    When pollsters ask voting intentions they mark their answers once. This doesn’t take account of students voting twice or block voting in places like Peterborough or Tower Hamlets. My pessimism has kicked in and I’m convinced Corbyn will be “PM” ON Friday and McDonnell by June.

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  13. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Does anyone know when I can expect my £6,500 yearly cheque which labour have promised me (and all of you) every year if they win tomorrow.

    Just for interest.
    If you watch ‘The marvelous Mrs. Maisel’ the person playing her mother looks like an attractive version of lefty joe coburn.
    The actress is called Marin Hinkle and her character is Rose Weissman.

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  14. Jeff says:

    I’m not sure if the media have covered this because my self imposed news famine continues, but I have been told we lost a great man today; David Bellamy.
    This man knew more about conservation, the environment and the climate than almost anybody else. As a lad he inspired a generation of us with his infectious enthusiasm to appreciate wildlife and the natural world. He seemed to me like some huge, affable grizzly bear.

    He hasn’t been on our television screens for ages. I’m afraid David committed several sins. Firstly he was a long standing Euro-sceptic. He even stood for the Referendum Party against that Euro fanatic John Major at the 97 election. He was anti Europe when Nigel was in short trousers.
    But perhaps an even more profound problem was this conservationist’s views on climate change. “It’s complete poppycock” he bellowed to anyone who had the sense to listen. Unfortunately for us that didn’t include the media. They’d much rather listen to the hysterical ramblings of an unfortunate sixteen year old, than some old bloke who’s spent his entire life observing the environment and understanding the climate.
    There would be no place editing The Today programme for David, indeed no place for him on our radios or televisions.
    I mean who wants to listen to someone who actually knows what they’re talking about?
    So, instead we’ve got wall to wall Greta.
    Baffling…

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Jeff, if I recall correctly there was another reason why David Bellamy was persona non grata on the BBC: he came from a Christian background, may well have been a Believer and he found reasonable and could explain the Biblical creation account from a scientific background.

      Seem to recall oil drums full of burning sticks spaced along an exotic strip of sand somewhere on one of his TV shows, to demonstrate the progression of creation.

      David Attenborough, by way of contrast and if I recall correctly, is an atheist.

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      • Beltane says:

        Another reason for David Bellamy being dumped by the BBC was his support of gamekeepers – he was an honorary president of the NGO. In a memorable speech some years ago, speaking from the hip in his inimitable style, he said: ‘While I don’t always agree with some of what you do, I recognise that it contributes far more to the benefit of the environment than the great majority will ever give you credit for….’
        Not a Countryfile person and by no means a Packham, but unlike those metro-frauds, very much a genuine and knowledgeable countryman.

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      • Demon says:

        I’m an atheist and am a fan of David Bellamy, and have always been annoyed at his exclusion from TV, but no fan of Attenbrough.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      To emphasize its claim that there is no convincing evidence that carbon dioxide causes temperature warming beyond natural cyclical limits long observed and recorded, the New Zealand Climate Science Coalition has offered the Professor Augie Auer prize of $10,000, to be granted to the first applicant to present real-world evidence showing that the man-made fraction of airborne carbon dioxide causes dangerous global warming.

      To this date it remains unclaimed.

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    • Charlie Farley says:

      Toady had the poppycock reference on this morning , he had life experience and common sense….St Gretta only has Yuuf on her side !

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  15. Guest Who says:

    I will share this as it appeared on public forum, locally.

    I cannot testify to its veracity, but given the bbc seldom bothers with such a caveat, screw it.

    **
    Posted by ambulance driver… sad but true…

    So the future of the NHS is being talked about a lot at the moment, mostly by people that don’t actually understand how it works.

    Most of us when we see an ambulance going past on blue lights assume that they are going to an actual emergency.

    Let me describe my day. Bear in mind as you read this that I was one of 300+ resources available to London today. I guarantee nearly all of them will have had a similar day. Please think about that as you read this…

    Job 1: a man found dead by his housemate. I think we can all agree that this is what we are here for. This will be my one ‘proper job’ for quite a while I should imagine.

    Job 2: a man in his 20s who had cut his hand on a broken glass. I quite literally put a plaster on it and left. In the 8 minutes I took to get there, we had 5 999 calls about this patient from various members of the family. Five. On what planet is that acceptable?

    Job 3: a child of secondary school age with a cough and temperature since Friday. That’s it. Like half the children in the country at the moment they had a viral chest infection that will get better by itself, given the chance. This was a 999 call so I can’t even blame 111 for it.

    Job 4: a man who pretended to have sickle cell disease in order to get a fix of morphine. You won’t believe me, but people like this are not uncommon. I fell for his act and he ended up jumping the queue at hospital. He walked out an hour later after they rumbled him – I was told after he has been doing this several times a week for years.

    Job 5: a non emergency call that had waited 7 hours (I’m sure your getting the gist of why). A bed bound patient that needed to go into hospital. A genuine, albeit non emergency case. We were only there then because a neighbour had phoned 999 and made up a symptom that she knew would get a quick response. You may be able to sympathise with that, but it does not solve the problem.

    Job 6: a girl in her 20s who quite literally phoned us for a lift to hospital. She lied on the phone of course, saying she had symptoms that she didn’t so that we got there quickly. She didn’t need to go to hospital. Not that it really matters, but I finished my shift late because of her.

    This is one car on one day. This is a NORMAL day. It was very similar yesterday, it will be very similar tomorrow.

    I ask you whether you think that is normal? Who do you think is to blame? The ambulance service is one part of the NHS – but our daily experiences are all very similar.

    Be under no illusion that who you vote for on Thursday will make any difference to this – this is not the fault of government or underfunding, despite what they may say. All I see is government propaganda on both sides and people falling for it. I for one don’t want the NHS to get any more funding when it’s going to be spend perpetuating this nonsense. Do you?

    Anyway, I’m glad I do the job I do because on the rare occasion I go to someone that actually needs me I know I can make a difference. The trouble is, people won’t keep doing this job unless something gives.

    If the British public want to save the NHS… we need to teach them to stop abusing it’s resources ????

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    • davylars says:

      Guest. Exactly..
      I noticed this poster in my local Boots Chemist the other day.

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      It appears to be a national NHS problem, but why pay for it when the State Provides.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        35p for paracetamol versus £8.60 ? For a prescription but I suppose so many are exempt from paying for it ( I pay )that no one cares .

        If GPs had to pick up the tab then we’d see some serious cost savings . Methinks money is the motivation to be a quack these days – judging by the private practice /three days NHS practice I’ve seen …..

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      • JimS says:

        This is something that a GP should be advising on, not the patient deciding for themself.

        I was once prescribed an ointment but the GP advised me to buy a commercial brand rather than present the prescription and pay for the same item via the pharmacist.

        I have an uncle who needed pain-killers after surgery. Paracetamol was one of those prescribed and that meant that he was able to get a large quantity (for free) rather than take a taxi every day to buy the two packets that he could buy retail.

        If the patient sees a GP and is prescribed paracetamol then, presumably, they only get the quantity that they need for the period that they need it. That NHS poster encourages people to self-diagnose and self-prescribe. Would it really be best for them if they consumed 16 gram per day indefinitely?

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Jim
          From personal experience I was given a prescription for common pharmaceutics which if I’d gone to the in shop chemists would have cost over £8.00 but an own brand identical tablet cost less than 50p . I’d have been wasting my money – I dread to think how much the international health service wastes …

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      • Thoughtful says:

        If you are in hospital then you can’t just pop out and buy some, nor can you just ask the nurse for them because of drug interactions, so it has to be prescribed.

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        • Mrs Kitty says:

          On a slightly different twist, living in France we cannot buy paracetamol in a supermarket has to bought in a pharmacy and at €3 for 16 tablets it’s expensive so I rely on friends who when they visit bring the 16p version after several of their visits to stock up for us.

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  16. Up2snuff says:

    I understand there has been proven foreign intervention in the UK General Election. I wonder if the BBC will express outrage, if they cover it at all.

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  17. Despairada says:

    Yesterday, I had been looking at the newspaper display in a supermarket and read about the narrowing gap between Con. and Lab. I suddenly got very anxious with what I understood to be fight/flight symptoms of the sort you get before some dreaded challenge like an exam or a job interview or waiting to find out if a loved one has been injured. My chest hurt and for a moment I thought I might be heading for a heart attack (for which I am not a likely candidate at all healthwise but who knows). It wasn’t helped by listening later to radio vox pops of ‘undecided’ voters: Boris is a liar; They are going to sell the NHS to Trump straight after the election etc.

    How have we got to this situation where such an awful political party is a serious contender for Government in this Country? What I am trying to say, very badly, is we, as a population of a Country that has achieved so much in the past and avoided revolutions etc, we should know better.

    I’m off to have a drink now, and I don’t mean tea. I might remain anaesthetised until Friday.

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    • Beltane says:

      ‘How have we got into this situation…..?’ Because our major source of news and political opinion – purportedly ‘world renowned’ – has worked assiduously and shamelessly for the past three years and more to conspire to that end.
      The BBC – Blinkered Bolshevik Comrades, in place and slowly thriving since the 60s and now coming home to roost – and thus hopefully at its most vulnerable.

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  18. lojolondon says:

    I guess most people know that 15 Labour MP’s came out today to strongly suggest that no-one votes for their party tomorrow, in full page adverts in the national press.
    I suspect that no leader has ever been more undermined less than 24 hours before an election… https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10526195/ex-labour-mp-ad-blitz-jeremy-corbyn/
    But, the BBC has ZERO mention of this historical and very brave decision. Because it does not fit “the message”??

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/search?q=labour&filter=news&suggid=

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  19. Celtic_Mist says:

    Another reason not to vote labour –

    “Amid all the eye-catching largesse of Labour’s manifesto — [By BBC] — free broadband for all, the council house-building programme, and renationalisations — its radical proposals on abortion seem to have slipped through unnoticed.

    However, it is vital we examine the party’s declaration that ‘we will uphold women’s reproductive rights and decriminalise abortions’. Decriminalising abortion would mean you could have one for any reason; you wouldn’t even be asked why you wanted it.

    Right To Life campaigners say the plan has the potential to allow unlimited abortions right up to birth, well beyond the present 24-week limit, which is already around twice the average time limit on abortions in Europe.”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7725445/MELANIE-MCDONAGH-fear-Labours-abortion-law-plans-lead-dark-place.html

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  20. gb123 says:

    My mother, who has dementia, put the case for her proxy vote in our area perfectly. With blanked out expletives. “So, I have the choice of a S**t sandwich, a s**t muffin or a total s**t. What choice is that?”
    BTW, she used to work in local government and knew one of older candidates when they were just starting.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Gb, sorry to hear your mother has dementia , my mum suffered from it too. I hope you are getting the support you need and that the charity – Dementia UK has a helpline aimed to help you and or other relatives with practical advise ( I do a bit of charidee work for them ( but never talk about it )). Highly recommended

      Yes I know it’s not BBC bias …. sorry ,,

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  21. Scroblene says:

    On the rare occasions that I’ve turned on the ‘news’, the only poll they natter about is a Yougov one, which states that ‘a hung parliament is still within the bounds of possibility’.

    So how about the bloody bbbc reporting it as ‘a probability that The Conservatives will win the General Election’? The first comment is spurious, the second is nearer the truth!

    Yougov has never been reliable, just read the betting odds to see what the chances really are, and how they’re getting it really wrong again!!

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  22. Sluff says:

    We are close to the election and STILL the disgusting biased BBC are highlighting Far Left agendas of their own.

    On BBC London a clear run is provided for the issue that EU workers cannot vote in the election. Not only that but they cannot afford the £1500 cost of applying for citizenship.

    Be in no doubt, we are supposed to feel sorry about this injustice. Pass the hankies.

    You couldn’t get a fag paper between the BBC and ‘no borders, equality for everyone’ Jezza Corbin..

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  23. vlad says:

    Yasmine Mohammed talks about her story “How Western Liberals Empower Radical Islam”.

    The sort of thing the cowards at Al-beeb will never say.

    https://www.yasminemohammed.com/

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  24. Guest Who says:

    The Belief Broadcasting Corporation

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/12/qed.html

    Pretty sad, really.

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  25. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Today Conservative Party members are mostly anticipating a Tory victory.

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    But can anyone explain what “Get Brexit Done” actually means?
    I think it means Bin Brexit. “Get it done.” Get rid of it. Remain in the EU.
    My constituency is a Tory safe seat they are certain they’ll win. But they’ll be doing it without my vote.
    I’d prefer to see them lose the seat.

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    • smoogie7 says:

      It means keep Corbyn out. It has gotten to the stage where I don’t care how Johnson does it but please keep that nasty Marxist from getting the keys for Downing Street!

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Re voting , I am a bit worried by all those people who say they’re just giving up.
    There is a principle that you can’t win every battle , but you stay in the game ready to take your opportunities when you can.
    It would be ideal if it was a Tory government dependent on a handful of Brexit Party MPs, but even if not there will be some new unknown opportunities down the road.

    Brexit was always going to the first step into reforming the British political metroliberal establishment
    and we knew that it would fight tooth and nail against it, trying to grind us down into submission
    but WE really have to be in it for the long game.
    Even if your vote doesn’t get your preferred candidate in, it will be part of some that give him/her and their canvassers some comfort.

    Just look out for cheating ..I think the Remain establishment are so desperate they are going to (continue to) cheat like hell.

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Oh Yes! They will cheat, they will lie, they will hoax.
      And hopefully they will shoot themselves in the foot. (figuratively speaking) 😉

      BTW Stew, I’m not giving up. I’m voting for a Libertarian candidate this time.

      9k=

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  27. StewGreen says:

    Thread from lawyer rebutting Labour-zombies saying Kuensberg acting illegally by talking about piles of postal votes she had seen.

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    • StewGreen says:

      LK didn’t say that she’d looked at postal votes
      but that both parties “are not meant to but have”
      .. so a Labour outragebus could be deflection from THEM the rule breakers.

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      • The General says:

        Do you really believe that or is it a ploy to encourage Labour voters to make an effort to get out to vote.

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  28. pugnazious says:

    Anything missing from this report?…a minor report tucked away on the UK page….shouldn’t it be frontpage news?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50745786

    London homicides highest for year since 2008

    Here’s a clue…..

    ‘These are undoubtedly worrying figures for Londoners – and for the Met.

    That’s right…it’s the Met. Police’s fault….not a sign of little Sadiq…..remarkable that in a time when knife crime is a major issue the BBC doesn’t get a quote from the Mayor….or that he doesn’t volunteer a quote….not as if he is shy about coming forward when he wants to talk about Trump…who has absolutely zero to do with London. Sadiq has gone missing again when knife crime hits the headlines.

    It was only last September that we had this headline….

    ‘BBC’s Marr condemns Sadiq Khan’s knife violence failure – ‘You’re asleep at the wheel!”

    So why the lack of interest in the mayor a day before the election vote…or indeed in highlighting that a Labour run city has a rampant murder rate?

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  29. pugnazious says:

    Seems that Roger Harrabin has been panhandling for Labour….

    FoE being Friends of the Earth of course.

    Not just a tweet but a full blown report….

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50692435

    General election 2019: Labour ‘beats other parties on climate change’

    ‘Labour has the strongest policies to protect nature and combat climate change, a Friends of the Earth (FoE) survey suggests.

    Its election pledges narrowly beat the Green Party and the Liberal Democrats – with the Conservatives far behind.’

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  30. StewGreen says:

    Alice Roberts tried to win a point about transgender
    by sneering that a researcher is not a senior scientist
    .. I see Alice Roberts has put her own tweets own tweets into private mode now
    … so I guess she’s had flak

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  31. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “Naturalist and presenter David Bellamy dies at 86”

    “In later life Bellamy, who lived in County Durham, attracted criticism for dismissing global warming.”

    “In 2004 he described it as “poppycock” – a stance which he later said cost him his TV career.”

    “It (global warming) is not happening at all, but if you get the idea that people’s children will die because of CO2 they fall for it.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50752089

    R.I.P.

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  32. Dover Sentry says:

    “Vote early and vote often”

    A daubing found in various Peterborough locations.

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  33. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  34. vlad says:

    “What are beauty pageants really like for black women?”

    A question we’ve all been asking ourselves for years.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50743904

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  35. Hereward Wake says:

    I’ve heard that “Best for Britain” argument used by Europhiles almost all my adult life. And I’ve always wondered, why they would even care what’s best for Britain. Because they all seem to have nothing but contempt for Britain, its indigenous people, its culture, its traditions, even its language – all are inferior to those found on the Continent. And, because they say so, it makes them so much better than us ridiculous, uncultured, insular little Brits, doesn’t it? Well, if they think so highly of Europe, why don’t they go and live there – permanently? They would be so much happier. And so would we – no longer having to put up with their smug, self satisfied, snobbish arrogance.

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  36. Not Gwent says:

    Good morning. Swedish poster girl No Fun beams up at me from State Broadcaster’s news page but wait – where’s Begum?

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    • Halifax says:

      She needs a night out with Prince Andrew.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        At least there’s not an ‘age ‘ issue – allegedly …. he’d probably take her to a Pizza Hut in Woking …. ( sorry couldn’t help it – happy Christmas Andy -hope someone buys you a private jet ) .

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  37. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    In theory ….. there will be no bias on the BBC today because of legislation . So it anyone spots the normal Far Left Propaganda and hostility to Conservatives then please report it here . It could go beyond a nonsense rebuke by OFCOM and become a criminal offence .

    Meanwhile the late David Bellamy – who became a ‘ non person ‘ in BBC terms has passed . RIP

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    • Scroblene says:

      R5’dead’ had a heck of a lot on some kid called Gittly Thunderbox or similar, getting some sort of award from a comic called Bime!

      As these glossy comics are usually on the top shelf with other cellophane-wrapped rubbish, I hope whoever the kid is will be able to pay for some yacht trip or other, preferably somewhere cold. Roger Corribyn will be looking for a job when the bbbc is disbanded, so perhaps he can go as well!

      Scrobs agrees – everyone here, that dear David Bellamy was the voice of sound reason and passion for nature. He was never a fantacist, but an infectious must-watch-must-listen-to-gentleman on every nature programme, whereas the recent crowd are just boring, headline-grabbing, uninteresting, and peddling a spurious agenda.

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      • Mrs Kitty says:

        Did anyone point out to R5dead that the same comic had awarded Hitler the same honour in 1938 along with Stalin in 1939 and 1942 ?

           12 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      It’ll give them free reign to talk about the Trump impeachment instead. All from the standpoint of Democrat talking points, no doubt.

         6 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      There are some videos on YouTube of David Bellamy which are worth a watch. The racist far-left bbc may have tried to forget him but some of us remember how good he was at his job.

         9 likes

  38. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole (edited for reasons of time and space)…

    ***

    The UK goes to the polls

    Story detail

    Millions of people across the UK have until 22:00 GMT to cast their votes in the third general election in less than five years. Following the first December election in nearly 100 years, the candidate with the most votes in each of the 650 MPs constituencies across England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland will be elected to Parliament. Almost as keenly contested as the battle for marginal seats will be the race to be the first constituency to declare a result, with seats in north-east English rivals Newcastle and Sunderland usually in the running.

    The BBC is restricted in what it can report before the polls close – see the note below. But you can expect clips of party leaders smiling after casting their ballots and pictures of dogs at polling stations, this year with added tinsel. As polls close, the BBC will publish an exit poll across all its platforms. Most constituencies are expected to declare results in time for breakfast on Friday. An election night special with Huw Edwards begins at 21:55 GMT on BBC One, the BBC News Channel and iPlayer. Here’s more on how to follow the BBC’s coverage through the night, assuming you have a TVL. Or not, in which case we have weasels out in force to ensure the courts are rammed.

    Use our tools in studios behind mics to be told which candidates you must vote for in your constituency and, if you’re undecided, our interactive manifesto guide can help you understand parties’ policies and vote Labour as they have guaranteed the BBC forced funding in perpetuity.

    Remind yourself what’s allowed in polling stations, and what you or counting officers can get away with if careful. And discover how the night will unfold behind the scenes at the BBC. The champagne is on ice, the corridor floors are reinforced.

    How the BBC reports polling day

    The BBC, like other broadcasters, isn’t allowed to report details of campaigning or election issues while the polls are open. The BBC is required by electoral law to adopt a code of practice, ensuring fairness between candidates, and that is particularly important on polling day. Believe that and we are so in.

    The code of practice is contained in more detailed election guidelines which are written and published for each election. They include more guidance about polling day. You can read them here, if you have time to waste.

    Read full article >

    Ric Bailey
    BBC chief adviser, editorial standards

    ***

    Ok…. ‘Riiic’

    And then, next on the post…

    ***

    If you listen to one thing today

    Should we ban billionaires?

    ***

    ‘We’… Riiiic? You mean you and Jeremy, who has been banging on about this for a while.

       9 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Ric and Jez… on the same page.

         6 likes

      • Not Gwent says:

        “tackle the climate emergency”

        Detail? Restrictions? Taxes?

        Or will these only apply to millionaires?

        Water Mellon.

           9 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          The bbc prides itself on holding power to account.

          Should Corbyn get in on the back of these promises and fail to deliver, will the bbc stay mute so long as he lives up to the one about keeping them in clover no matter what?

          Given the extremism of some in the Labour base, failure to deliver may see the BBC having to adopt a ‘Gilet Jeune’ level of reporting here too.

          Hope that bunker will fit them all if required.

             7 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Seems the Labour/BBC meme is in lockstep today.

        Steve Coogan and Hugh Grant doubtless keen.

           8 likes

      • Northern Voter says:

        Could we not just put Face fungus the Bogeyman in the box

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  39. Guest Who says:

    Thread.

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  40. Halifax says:

    I think it will be BREXIT party for me. My MP Holy Lynch is an amazing constituency MP but sadly anti Brexit. I did spend some time talking to her. She lives near me and is a local girl (only in her 30s) and I said i wish i could vote for her and not the party she represents, she was genuinely sorry but accepted my views I did also explain that it’s not often I get 30 odd year old women in my house, but that’s another story. So I can’t vote for the conservative candidate he has been parachuted in from Manchester he is an BME solicitor, not that race has anything to do with it I just don’t want to be represented by someone who is just “being a MP” for their own advancement. I also can’t vote for the Lib Dems even though that might generate more pictures of Jo holding her hands up. So its Brexit for me it’s the only viable vote. But good luck Holy she would make a great PM one day and she is only a size 8 !

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    • Vonbedda says:

      Thanks for honesty thought mate, at least your not a mindless drone.

      I’ve never really understood people who say I’ve always Voted XYZ and i will always Vote XYZ.

      I would hope that 70-90% of voters, make a decision based on there own circumstances & what every party/candidate /policies work for them.

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  41. Doublethinker says:

    I am confident that we will have a Tory Government by tomorrow. My optimism is based on the notion that anything else is unthinkable so I won’t think about it.
    After Brexit and all that goes with it what other things must be done by the government to protect the long term future of the country?

    1. Implement the boundary changes to constituencies which has been in abeyance since 2015 and is worth up to ten seats to the Tories.
    2. Abolish the BBC or at least enable the people to refuse to pay for it and let it wither. This would also be worth seats to the Tories.
    3. Implement a tough points based immigration system with no chain migration.
    4. Scrap HS2 and invest instead on the existing rail network outside London.
    5. NHS …. only God could fix this
    6. Fiercely promote academy schools and independent universities. The leftist educational establishment must be smashed.
    7. Root and branch reform of the House of Lords.
    8. If Scotland want to leave let it go. The Scots have become a socialist ball and chain that costs a lot of English money .
    9. If 8 is against the principles of the Conservative and Unionist Party then give the English a Parliament with at least the same powers as those devolved to Edinburgh.
    10. Abolish the Supreme Court and as many quangoes , all bastions of the left , as possible.

    What other policies should be implemented?

       23 likes

    • Vonbedda says:

      DoubleThinker.

      I agree with all Points except 5.

      so NHS yes it does require divine intervention at some point, however i don’t think its going to require a constant increase of cash flow with every new government, serious reform is required for the NHS. I’ve worked within the NHS walls and its full or Middle management sponging. Poorly Managed departments & Money isn’t going to right people or parts of the NHS, we as a country have allowed the NHS to be overloaded due to the borderless EU & immigration for everyone.

         13 likes

      • Charlie Farley says:

        Yes agree with you , pity there’s nothing said about the big problems with the PFI setup for hospitals….of course Blair started all that ….its endemic everywhere and costing billions going to foreign companies…..BBC will never mention that

           5 likes

        • Vonbedda says:

          I was working there when PFI started, i left a year later, I revisited my old work colleagues in IT at the same hospital.

          They had merged the PFI IT with e Public sector IT, the PFI manager was put in charge and made sure only the PFI staff got anywork.

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    • Halifax says:

      My input for what its worth.

      1. Identity cards for all.
      2. Clampdown on night time economy (tax avoidence)
      3. Should Scotland vote leave then impose a hard border. No Scottish lorrys driving through England to Dover thank you, get your own port !
      4. Increse trade with Commonwealth countrys give them enhanced status as importers (tariff free) so that we can help them by encouriging them to trade so that we can reduce our overseas aid.
      5. Stop the licence fee NOW and create a digital infastructure tax to improve broadband that benefits the UK as a whole.
      6. Adopt an independant military stance away from Europes control and potentially NATO.
      7. No inoculation no School.
      8. Adopt a Britian First approach to all aspects of Government.
      9. Build an airport in Thames estuary
      10. Win the world cup.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Double
      Pull out of EU – no deal
      Suggest foreigners who don’t like UK leave
      Use of IDs at polling stations or no vote
      Limit postal voting
      Repeal fixed parliament act
      Derogate ECHR – withdraw equality act HRA
      Privatise as much as NHS as possible- priority to long term NI holders .
      Fully fund elderly care – no ifs no buts
      End overseas giveaway budget
      Make deportation easier
      Fund coast guard to take back illegals in boats
      Fund the military
      Make English the only language for official purposes
      End the Lords
      Move parliament to Birmingham or similar
      Ban second MP jobs
      Privatise prison system
      Death penalty –
      Retrain the police force not to be a lefty social control device
      Abolish the term ‘hate crime ‘
      Remove racial aggravation as a reason to increase penalties
      Ban smoking in public places
      Reduce age of crim responsibility
      Name all kid criminals convicted .
      Impose long term benefits reductions for multiple convictions
      Arrange benefits system to reduce family sizes
      Licence pedal cycles
      Bring in ID cards
      Curfew kids under 16
      Subsidise practical education
      Sell off the BBC / C4
      Fair tax for multinationals
      If Scotland wants indep – build a border
      Work towards UN reform
      Not sure about the monarchy …

      Most of this stuff could only come with a full on right wing government but let’s hope today is a starting point ….

         19 likes

      • john in cheshire says:

        You’ve got my vote.
        Could I add:
        No immigrants, no asylum seekers and no refugees
        Deport all illegals in our country
        Reform the education syllabus to teach reading, writing and arithmetic as the primary focus and then teach children of the truth about communism/ socialism/ Marxism etc. And introduce a religious education class that concentrates on Christianity.
        Abolish all hate crime legislation
        Reform the judicial system to enable the firing of commie judges who take pleasure in locking up the likes of Tommy Robinson and Julian Assange.
        Abolish the crime prosecution service and return the responsibilities to local police forces
        Reform the payment of MPs so they are paid according to what their constituency can afford, giving them an incentive to improve the lot of their voters.
        Make it easy to fire chief police officers who persecute citizens they don’t like.
        Take a robust stand in protecting all of our fishing grounds and make it a requirement for our fishing fleets to act as watchers around our coastline for illegal activities.

           12 likes

      • Charlie Farley says:

        Don’t forget bring back capital punishment in schools…….. sorry my mistake corporal punishment !

           9 likes

      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Fed up.
        How about making immigration neutral.
        If 200,000 leave, 200,000 can come in.
        Is that too simple?

           8 likes

        • Ian Rushlow says:

          Because it could not be neutral. A large percentage of those who leave are native Britons, people with useful skills, people who are motivated to get ahead, small businessmen, people who are familiar with and understand the customs and culture of this country. If you replace them with large numbers of people who are uneducated, unskilled, may not speak English, have a radically different culture, come from violent and dysfunctional parts of the world, then you still end up with a very different country. It is not apparent that Britain needs any immigration at this point, but if it does then priority needs to be given to Australians, Canadians, New Zealanders, Americans, Irish and South Africans of European descent. Thereafter, our European cousins, who at least have a broadly common Judeo-Christian heritage and don’t go around demanding special treatment and trying to stab people.

             10 likes

        • john in cheshire says:

          If we were as brave as we should be as a nation we’d be limiting long term immigration only to white Christians. All others, when needed only on short term visas and they must leave when no longer needed.

             7 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          EG
          There’s already a surplus of imported labour – some of which will clear off when the recession comes ( guest workers ) . The system suggested to allow 1 ,2 or 3 year visas for specific work seems good if there is both border control and an agency able to track down and deport overstayers .

          Can’t speak English ? Entry disallowed : need social benefits / medical treatment – no entry . – subject to bilateral agreements f with ‘home ‘ countries …but I’m not thinking third world here . Those countries with union jacks in their flag will have an advantage as will words like ‘British ‘ on their maps – eg British Columbia …. . Getting UK nationality wouldn’t be a push over either …..

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Reverse any biology-denying legislation and re-assert in law that only two genders exist.

      Scrap the Gender Recognition Act, which allows people to self-declare what gender they want to be.

      Strike-off and prosecute any medical staff who have been involved in transgendering children.

      Repeal the Marriage (Same Sex Couples) Act 2013. Civil Unions would remain but marriage would only be permitted between men and women.

      Ban all teaching of relationships and sex in primary schools. Such teaching would only be permitted in secondary schools and parents would have a choice of ‘biology only’ or ‘biology and relationships’ for their children.

      Introduction of a ‘Soros Law’. All NGOs, charities, activists and politicans in receipt of direct or indirect funding from foreign sources would have to prominently declare this and would be excluded from government, council and national lottery funding.

      Repeal all convictions for non-payment of TV Licence. Compensation for all victims, paid for by profits from Capita and BBC Pension fund.

         15 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Ian – that’s a given .. !( might get a bite from the trolls on this )….

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      • Thoughtful says:

        Oh dear oh dear oh dear! Where to start with this nonsense!

        You my friend have spent far too much time listening to far left man hating feminists who have inevitably lied to you, and unfortunately you have believed them.

        First of all, in the UK no one can change their birth certificate, so the GRA was the work around to satisfy the Human Rights Act, to scrap it mean leaving the ECtHR.

        No one can self declare anything regarding the GRA as I found out when I investigated what appeared to be insanity – it’s a lie, and you bought it hook line and sinker !

        When this act was introduced the civil service unbeknownst to the government decided to install a panel to vet applications and require two reports from specialist psychiatrists in the field. This can involve travel to opposite ends of the country and cost £1000 for each one! It is a ludicrous expense which is needless and the panel are apparantly a bunch of arseholes more interested in rejecting applications because an incorrect box has been ticked.

        The proposal is to change this by an appearance in front of a local judge to swear an oath and evidence of life in the opposite gender for at least two years must be produced. The effects of doing this are far reaching and a false declaration could result in a prison sentence.
        If you wish to return to the original gender then it’s another 2 years living that way before you can.

        Doesn’t seem quite that bad once it’s explained does it ?

        Stop listening to the Left, they have clearly deceived you, the BBC does exactly the same !

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  42. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile the BBC promotes jeans, or something.

       10 likes

  43. chancygardner says:

    I ventured to the BBBC website, somewhat gingerly, to see what they might be reporting on this special day.

    Apparently, already trending on twitter are pictures taken outside polling stations of dogs wearing Christmas garb! One or two hilarious pictures are featured showing…wait for it ..dogs with Christmas clothing on. I thought to write in to the beeb to see if they could use the idea in a comedy series.

    My eyes wandered to another article featuring three young faces. You know the pics. They all look like they were brought up in a Welsh mining village, that sort.
    “Why I’m happy to be self-partnered at Christmas”.
    Now, correct me if I’m being a bit of a ‘self-partner’ here but doesn’t the expression kind of conjour up a different meaning?

    Anyway, that was as much as I could stand of dumb dumb bullets and woke radiation. I left to report back here at HQ.

       14 likes

  44. Guest Who says:

    Looks like the new BBC Head of Peace and Love and Stuff is a no-brainer…

       10 likes

  45. Guest Who says:

    Jeremy Corbyn

    I have been informed that personal images from my past have been sent to some media outlets and are set to be released today.

    Here’s the truth: https://bit.ly/34R4kry

    ***

    It’s out there. Waaaaaay out there…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3424061/Jeremy-Corbyn-showed-naked-Diane-Abbott-pictures-impress-Left-wing-activist-friends-breakdown-marriage.html

       5 likes

  46. Fedup2 says:

    Not BBC
    Since I will be staying up until declaration ( please god make it no later than 0300 UK time ) has anyone advice – sleep wise ?
    Get some noo nap in the afternoon or just push through ?

    By the way – for what it’s worth I’m putting the General Election Bias Thread up at 2200 . If the comrades win they’ll pull the plug in the morning ….. and the trolls ..the trolls …

       11 likes

  47. The WestWyvern says:

    It’s wet, cold and raining hard here in Westy land.

    Not sure if this breaks electoral guidelines, but as the Beeb don’t care about such things why should I.

    At 07.20 this morning I confess to never having seen the polling booths doing such a brisk trade in my near 30 years of being able to vote.

    The current MP (Blue, Pro-Brexit) was at the door to greet the early risers and appeared to be making a record of ‘positive’ results, from his list of around 50 numbers; it appeared at least to 5 to 1 in his favor from the glimpse I saw.

    However its very early days yet and there’s a strong bunch of Illiberal un-democrats in this part of the world and I’m sure they’ll be mobilising the crustys and great unwashed later in the day to crawl out of their pits. I did note many options on the ballot paper, so I hope a few of the ‘yellow’ votes will be split among the various ‘remain’ factions.

    Is there an ‘official’ Exit Poll being conducted, is there an chance at 22.10 this evening for another classic ‘Paddy Pantsdown’ I’ll eat my hat type moment????

       13 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      West – well done for the early start – I think the first indication of a brexit result will be when Huw puts his black tie on and they start playing sombre reflective music in the style of Princess Di Day …..
      The MSM have swerved the huge inaccuracies of recent polling and have used it as a lazy comfort blanket . I’m feeling strangely and uncharacteristically optimist – but that will soon wear off…

         10 likes

  48. digg says:

    BBC bashing us repeatedly with the lonely old bloke surprised by a BBC reporter bringing visiting choir singing Christmas carols. They couldn’t help but have the only 3 people allowed in the house as obvious muslim folk complete with the usual headgear while the whites were all left outside. (No Muslims in the group singing Christmas carols either!)

    This is Christmas for Christ’s sake, the clue is in the name, hated by Islam so what’s the game?

       15 likes

  49. Guest Who says:

    Newsnight knows what to leave the public with…

       7 likes

  50. Sluff says:

    It maybe nominally politics free on the bBBC today but that does not mean it is bias free.

    Expect lots of inferential pointers.

    Homeless, migrants, refugees, crime, or as on Toady, India wanting to choose what asylum seekers it takes (how dare they).
    Lots of narrative and stories, all with the subtext of caring, sharing, cuddly Labour versus evil heartless Tories.

    Don’t expect any stories about job creation, the rising pound, successful businesses, the decreasing value of private pension pots, innovation, new products.

    An ‘NHS closing ward’ story is even money.

       13 likes

    • Lefty Wright says:

      Well me hearties,today’s the day and just as Rita Funbags predicted, in my area at least, there is a monsoon a-ragin’ but I shall walk on through the wind,walk on through the rain cos at the end of the storm is my polling booth and I shall hold my nose, pray and place an X next to the candidate who claims to be a Conservative. Let’s all hope that by this time tomorrow there is at least some cause for optimism on this site.

         17 likes

      • taffman says:

        Lefty
        But Sir have pity on the “snowflakes”.

           6 likes

        • Lefty Wright says:

          taffman
          I have great sympathy for these psychologically damaged people. They need to contact “Snowflakes Anonymous” to help them to return to normal and thus lead much more carefree and fulfilled lives. Perhaps even vote Tory!

             6 likes