Start the Week Thread 9 December 2019

The final week of the General Election campaign . Have you had enough Far Left BBC bias? The BBC is throwing the whole range of propaganda to favour Labour against the Conservative/Brexit candidates .
The end of the week will see how persuasive the BBC/MSM still is after so much poison .

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380 Responses to Start the Week Thread 9 December 2019

  1. digg says:

    BBC website running massive full-page story on our Jo because she claimed someone asked her to wear low cut tops once….

    Smells of utter hysteria and desperation from our “trusted one” reaching for the heartstrings of the hashtag “metoo” brigade now no doubt.

    I care to bet they have loads of junior researchers currently scouring social media for any similar Boris comments as we speak!


    • JimS says:

      Putting your interview notes on the couch in front of you isn’t a good idea because it makes you look like your imagining a low-cut top!


  2. StewGreen says:

    Another racially segregated Radio4 series of 2 progs
    I bet you are all listening to it
    .. It appears to be all about the US black community.


    • Sluff says:

      I put it down to all those racists over the years…….

      Isaac Newton, Isombard Brunel, Micheal Faraday, Thomas Swann, Matthew Bolton, Charles Darwin, James Watt, Churchill, Arthur Wellesley, Crick/Watson/Franklin/ Hodgkin, Lord Rutherford, James Clarke Maxwell.

      They were all so hideously white and so undeserving of being……geniuses.


      • tarien says:

        Well put Sluff- have there ever been such people who made such monumental improvements/inventions to peoples lives , who are black, coloured or other ? I can’t bring any such coloued individual to mind, who has made such a contribution to society in the world-Athletics, and Sports in general are not counted or included as such contributions made in those areas are singularly self apppreciating.


  3. digg says:

    A nursery to offer only Vegan food from 2020…

    I takes only one rabid, idiot to get this sort of stuff going now it seems and no-one else in the staff dare object!
    Anyone ask the parents?
    Thought not!


    • StewGreen says:

      4pm tomorrow is not more black stuff
      Instead the black artists are included in Shortcuts at 3pm
      Playing in the Dark by “Gail Lewis”, Ego Ahaiwe Sowinski, Natasha Mumbi Nkonde


    • StewGreen says:

      Tomorrow’s 4pm segregated show is Young Female Photographers
      Emma Dabiri meets three emerging female artists under 30 who are bringing a fresh new perspective to the world of photography.

      Ah it’s a repeat from July


      • StewGreen says:

        Of course it’s a bit daft to do a RADIO show about photography
        but the R4 4:30pm show is about a famous female photographer as well
        “Great Lives War photographer and model Lee Miller proposed by Lindsey Hilsum of Channel 4 News”


  4. StewGreen says:

    The 11 am Radio4 show
    “the many other female, trans and non-binary queens”
    “Lacey is a drag queen
    .. Lacey is also a woman and although she’s been doing drag for seven years, she’s been dogged by critics who screen-shot the dictionary definition to prove that drag is for men only. ”


  5. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    If you watch university challenge tonight see if this happens.

    They want to make it more pc and therefore have to find questions about wimmin.

    In history, I reckon 85+% of things were done/discovered/caused and so on, by men so it’s difficult to find wimmin who people have heard of.

    Apart from Agatha Christie or Marie Curie and some others there’s not so many.
    Maybe Clara Schumann for music and it’s usually Tracey Emin for art.

    So then, what happens.
    They start the question with something like Beryl Minx was the architect who designed Cleese Towers in 1984, which famous guest used his hand to score a goal for Argentina in the football World Cup finals.
    They then ask other questions about famous men who stayed there.
    There just aren’t enough known famous wimmin to find questions about so they use the unknown wimmin to start the question and thus tick one of their boxes.

    Just watch it, I bet it happens.


  6. digg says:

    Express reporting Conservative advisor punched in the face by a LABOUR activist thug at the same hospital where Boris is accused of disregard for sick boy..

    Will the BBC cover this bit…

    Maybe not.

    Update… BBC radio now adding “…there was a scuffle….some sort of collision… maybe an accident… there was a terrible earthquake, a flood, my suit was at the cleaners…”


    • Fedup2 says:

      Me being the cynic – since the Labour Party / BBC is going to be running dirty stories in the run up to the election -contrived Pictures of kids on a hospital floor are par for the course .

      Blame the government for the incompetence of the hospital trust . Hold bojo personally responsible for some stupid nurse or hospital administrator – who may just happen to be a labour activist .

      See the ambush of bojo at whips cross hospital by a labour activist pretending to be ‘ a concerned father ‘….

      There ll be another emotional picture along soon . Bet on it .and the BBC will run it morning noon and night .


    • countryblues says:

      BBC News : Nasty Tory advisor headbutts innocent Labour activist’s hand 😉


  7. dafydd says:

    Have you seen the latest headlines on BBC News website, it tells people how to tactically vote at the election with a picture of Sturgeon outside Downing Street with the letters saying ”block boris”.
    My brother is a member of the Conservative Party and has just contacted the head office about whats going on re BBC website and they said they were aware and angry..he said what are you going to do about it and he said it was with there press team…In all my years i have never seen anything like it today, the BBC no longer hiding there Bias, the gloves are off..!!
    And sadly folks its having an effect, a snap poll by ICM now puts the Tories now at only 6 points ahead, hung parliament territory


  8. Celtic_Mist says:

    Sky working to elect Corbyn



  9. Guest Who says:

    Rob just appeared on my timeline and, guess what… #meeither

    Do all senior Beeboids walk down streets with shopping trolleys full of cats?


  10. Fedup2 says:

    Hung parliament means no brexit . Another general election in 2020 will be the ‘remainer’ one …


    • Scroblene says:

      Fed, one of the best sites to look at is this one…

      Putting money where one’s mouth is seems to me to be the best forecast available!

      Note the shortening odds on Boris Johnson’s Conservatives as above! You can change the event, or the market to get a fuller picture!

      It’d be interesting if they do a market on when the BBBC becomes subscription only! I may even put some of my pocket money on that if Boris wins on Thursday!


      • Fedup2 says:

        Oh scroblene – how I try to control my gambling addiction – and now you’ve sent me to the wonderland of oddschecker – thank you …
        …….. I’m trying to figure how the stock market will behave with the variations of Corbyn win /lose / hung …. even if the currency market is betting on a Tory win …..

        And while I write – the 6pm tv news ( I don’t watch ) is leading with a volcano going bang in NZ . Bad for those involved but a strange story to make number one national news in an election week.
        Wonder if the BBC is realising it’s just too consistently biased in favour of getting a Marxist government at the end of the week . ?

        Or maybe some bbc types are already on air NZ heading for summer …?


  11. Sluff says:

    Has Christmas arrived early?
    Apparently Boris has said that the TV licence should be looked at.
    The BBC are featuring the story prominently and they have even set up a HYS. I wonder what they were expecting?

    Ii understand it’s normal to say that CCBGB in these situations but looking at the top rated posts it occurs that for readers of this esteemed website the Comments are Going Wonderfully Well.


  12. pugnazious says:

    The dirty tricks are being deployed in desperation by Labour and its supporters.

    We had Chris Hopson from NHS Providers suddenly coming out and saying no-one is being honest about how to sustain the NHS….although mentioning all parties you might ask why make such a comment now in the end game of an election campaign when party policies are fixed? You might think that this was a deliberate high profile attempt to grab the headlines and keep the issue of the NHS in them….an issue which Labour thinks it has the advantage on. In other words someone decided to do Labour a favour.


    Then there’s the photo of the 4 year old boy supposedly sleeping on the floor…taken by his mother who says she will be voting Labour. Now undoubtedly there was a wait but why would any mother dump her son on the floor when she thinks he has pneumonia and there are seats available…after all…where was she all during this supposed 4 hour session on the floor? You would not put your kid on the floor…he’d be lying across the seats with his head on your lap.

    Call me cycnical but can’t help think the photo was staged to put the worst possible spin on the situation…it didn’t get to the media by itself did it? We don’t know the full facts such as why there was a wait and why the boy was taken out of a bed he’d been given earlier….and then we have an ITV journalist playing ‘gotcha’…what was Boris supposed to say and do when shown such a photo? Again the journo didn’t know the full facts just what he’d been told by the mother and the emotive photo….but he’s prepared to indulge in a highly political pantomime with the photo just to embarrass Boris…..and of course the BBC makes it frontpage news…after telling us this morning, before this story broke, that the NHS was probably the most important issue for voters…possibly even above Brexit.

    When Dr David Wrigley [deputy head of the BMA no less] wades in you smell a rat…he’s Labour and a long term critic of the Tories…

    Just to get a flavour of him and his fellow travellers you can read this from 2013…

    ‘London GP Jackie Applebee believes the “NHS is in peril”, and wants the government to do more.

    “There is plenty of money in society to pay for the NHS. We have tax avoidance left, right and centre, billions that have been wasted on PFI [the private finance initiative].”

    Dr David Wrigley, who works in the North West, says services are in “financial meltdown”, yet the government was being “Orwellian” in talking about efficiency savings.’

    So in 2013 the NHS is in meltdown and in dire peril.

    Hmmmm…in 2014 the same Dr Wrigley was boasting that the NHS was the best in the world and had the best value for money service…

    Must have been one hell of a good year to go from dire peril and meltdown to the best in the world.

    Kinda get the feeling we’re being spun a story here just days before the vote….massive, last minute, high profile attacks on the Tories about the NHS designed to grab attention, charge the emotions and change your vote……conspiracy or fact?


    • Guest Who says:

      Looks like this is what the Labour, Activist, MSM Axis of weevils is hanging their hat on up to the wire.

      Jeremy Corbyn
      25 mins ·
      Be in no doubt: Boris Johnson’s Conservatives caused this crisis by depriving our NHS of the funding it needs.
      No wonder he can’t bring himself to look at the photo.

      Boris Johnson refuses to look at photo of child on hospital floor, takes reporter’s phone and puts it in his pocket


      If the BBC hop on board they are done.

      And that poor kid starts getting better today his parents best hire security.


    • vlad says:

      And of course the beeb eagerly reports the gotcha moment when a reporter thrusts the picture at Boris, who fails to immediately break down in tears, thereby proving that he’s a heartless Tory who eats babies for breakfast and can’t wait to sell the NHS to his mate Trump.


    • Sluff says:

      I’m just surprised the Tories don’t have a pre-arranged robust reply to this kind of claptrap.

      Such as, I don’t know the detail, we’ll get in touch with local management and find out the background.

      They must surely know in terms all the dirt that the Far Left will dredge up in the last days and the likely prominence of it on the BBC and C4.


  13. dafydd says:

    Take a really good close look at the picture of the young lad lay on the floor…
    I may be wrong be if its a drip, shouldnt the tube of the drip go into his arm and not upwards, i may be wrong and it could be oxygen, but wheres the mask..
    And are you telling me they couldnt have found a chair…..

    And where did the picture end up Daily Mirror first then the BBC


    • Thoughtful says:

      I have a friend who works as a practice manager at an NHS GPs. She tells me that they are having to register illegal immigrants in order for the NHS to provide treatment to them.

      We are around a decade into a Tory government and they are still allow the NHS to be openly used by people who are not eligible for treatment and for known illegals which they are failing to deport.

      Under the short mismanagement of Boris the Bottler, forced deportations have fallen by an astonishing 25% – and there weren’t all that many to begin with !


    • popeye says:

      I’d have been more impressed if other photos on a long shot showed adjacent beds occupied. I’ve taken a very poorly four-tear old to A&E and I can assure you I cuddled him for ages before a bed was found. I most certainly would not have put him on the floor – but then, I wasn’t there for a photoshoot!


  14. Thoughtful says:

    Take a look at this antique black & white film of the development and manufacture of the Rolls Royce Merlin engine, and tell me if you find any hint of the ‘sexism’ the rabid loonies of the left keep harping on about.


    • Charlie Farley says:

      Had two aunties that worked in assembling these engines and they loved it ,it was hard work but they had respect from the men they worked with …one married another worker must of had some fun as well !


  15. Thoughtful says:

    I see Boris the Bottler has said he isn’t going to end the TV tax in our lifetime.

    You have to read between the lines to understand what is being said, and when the bottler says in the long run he is making a reference to a historical political statement.

    “In the long run we are all dead” John Maynard Keynes

    What the Bottler is saying here in coded language to anyone who understands is that he is never going to challenge the unique way the BBC is funded.

    If he’d said in the short term, or even the medium term it might have meant something different. I’m sorry to dash the hopes of those who thought his duplicitous language meant something else.


  16. vlad says:

    Normally the right on, ever-so woke beeb would be contemptuous about the sexist Miss Universe pageant.

    Yet this year they’re positively gushing over it for some reason.



    • Sluff says:

      Absolutely disgusting BBC 6pm news bias.

      Boris is shown in a factory and then afterwards ambushed about the stupid photo of the boy on the floor.

      Meanwhile the BBC then show Uncle Jezza, all smiles, speaking to thousands of acolytes in Bristol.

      Cue lots of head-shaking from Fiona Bruce and Laura Kuntsberg.

      Then its off to Crewe, a marginal constituency. The BBC ‘talk to a couple who are unsure’.
      Guess what? Healthcare and Education are the priorities mentioned first. Quel surprise. How very impartial.

      Selective, craftily edited, bias bias all the way.

      In tomorrow’s BBC news, John Mcdonnell visits an animal home and is featured with cuddly cats, dogs, and bunny rabbits while pledging to fully fund the new National Vets Service’

      Boris Johnson filmed biting the heads off babies. It is later reported on BBC news channel at 2.10 am that the film was a fake.


  17. fakenewswatcher says:

    Thank you for your funding.


  18. Guest Who says:



  19. StewGreen says:

    FFS ITV and Calendar news absolutely milking it
    “a photo of a 4 year old boy FORCED to sleep on a hospital floor”
    serious 8 mins on Boris then 3 against Sanjiv Javid
    Then the main ITN headline

    .. if I had a 4 year old in casualty he’d be sleeping in my arms.


    • StewGreen says:

      It’s entirely Boris’ fault that last week at the parish council meeting I was *FORCED* to sit on the floor, when so many people turned up.


  20. Pete says:

    I have spent many hours in A&E with my children waiting for treatment. It can be very stressful with a sick child, but never would I stoop so low as to tell my sick child to sleep on the floor as they suffer then take a photo of them and send it off to the papers!. Surely a case of child neglect. Perhaps the social services will be contacting the parents.


  21. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    A leaked document says the UK government may struggle to deliver the PM’s customs plans for Northern Ireland in time.


    Drip. Drip. Drip.


  22. Kaiser says:


  23. Guest Who says:

    Looks like the BBC is in full support.


    • Guest Who says:

      Just saw the footage. No punch. Just an innocent bloke waving his hand in the face of an ideological foe he had been haranguing. If I could vote anything but those on offer I would,

      The media… all media… are scum. However, relative to their mates in politics, they are… still scum.


  24. Guest Who says:

    Champion Ash and Owen the Pummeled best look out.


  25. Fedup2 says:

    Much against myself I am starting to ‘game ‘ Friday the 13th and al beebs coverage of the outcome of the election with those 3 variations of Tory win /loss / no majority …..

    Following from patterns elsewhere the it is a result the MSM does not approve then there will be allegations of
    illegitimate outcomes ,
    overseas interference ,
    illegal money payments ,
    right media bias ( yeah right ) ,
    personal assassination of Corbyn s character ( ie supporting the IRA , any anti Israel terrorist group and other enemy of Britain )and anything else they can come up with – including the old criticism of first past the post .

    Maybe being out of the UK in the days before and after the election will help . I just hope to god we don’t have to have another GE in 2020……


    • john in cheshire says:

      We should have a ” Whatever happened to…” session, though, to round off the year, or maybe to start the new one.

      For example, whatever happened to commie Olly Robbins?

      I think that this year has been remarkable for the number of names that have come and gone, in many cases having caused trouble and strife and been allowed to disappear with no consequences to themselves. Perhaps they shouldn’t be allowed to sink into obscurity.


      • Fedup2 says:

        John –
        Yes I was thinking about some kind of ‘off BBC ‘ something or other as well as the General Election thread which I will put up on Thursday PM / early Friday the 13th .

        As for the ‘whatever happened too …’.. there will be an unpleasant reminder in the New Years Dishonours List coming our way soon ….lord letwin , sir ken Clarke , . lady Soubry. lord Grieve , lord Bercow and another cast of traitors ….god help us …who should all be flushed down the toilet of history …


  26. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    A report by US Inspector General Michael Horowitz has found the investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign was justified.

    Uh-huh. And Katty is back. Woo.P.Doo.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      If you want to hear other than one side when it comes to Trump, you’ll need to look elsewhere than the BBC. Which you already knew, of course.

      (Is it just me or is this site fiendishly slow tonight?)


    • G says:

      But where’s our Jon as in Sopel. I miss his obvious manipulation and fabrication of US news.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      (Why Wednesday? The damage is long done by then and the next lie will be doing the rounds.)
      Despite the story unraveling fast, the BBC is still showing it as one of the most important news items tonight.

      Anyone with rudimentary medical knowledge could see it was a crock of brown stuff. The state of journalism today is such that no one much cared, as long as it conveyed the desired message. And Labour know they can get away with it.


    • tarien says:

      For goodness sake make certain the Media et al know the full story-what sort of person is the mother of this little boy, to do such a thing? Disgusting whichever it is looked at.


  27. Despairada says:

    Have the Best Buddies of Corbyn tried to blame Boris for the Volcano in New Zealand erupting?


  28. Guest Who says:

    Impeccable logic.


    • Kaiser says:

      gis me as vote cos I wills be “lasting with it a lot longer”


    • Vonbedda says:

      18 is a perfect age, had the chance to spend 2 years at work, unless they’ve decided they’re going to goto Uni, then complain when they don’t get there 40K+ a year job after studying “Paint by Numbers” at uni.


  29. Guest Who says:

    BBC Hereford and Worcester

    Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn has been in Worcester this evening campaigning for the General Election.

    Hear what he had to tell us on the NHS, his party’s manifesto, Brexit-supporters in Herefordshire and Worcestershire, why voters in places like Worcester are crucial, and much more on tomorrow’s breakfast show.


    They seem… smitten.


  30. Celtic_Mist says:


    • Vonbedda says:

      Quick someone find me an Ill child, so I can snap a photo & claim all sorts of context behind it.


  31. StewGreen says:

    Basically if you are in the middle of Grimsby fish market
    and a journalist interrupts you and shoves his phone in your face as he babbles away
    … and you DON’T burst into tears and say everyone must vote Labour
    ..well then you of course are worse than any mass rapist or mass murderer.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, the smart move is to take the phone, look at the photo, then use the phone to get hold of the person responsible for running the hospital and find out what was going on, all at the reporter’s expense.

      Not easy to think on your feet when tired, still out campaigning near the Election date, but if you want to be in that kitchen at No.10 you have to be able to stand the heat and fan the flames back at the opposition.

      This all stems from yet another bungled manifesto, where the Tories are trying to outbribe the Labour Party.

      Far, far, better would have been to limit the extra spending on just £350 million per week for the NHS. That would have been a screaming headline all GE19 campaign long.


  32. Halifax says:

    Reading with interest about the NZ volcano explosion and the tragic loss of life.
    Surely there would have been scientists all over this volcano measuring pressure , temperature etc ….these seismologists have all the best stuff satalitte links looking at expansion etc and then boom off it goes and erupts no warning nothing. I think it just shows how much we in our world of control underestimate the power of nature. We are so cock sure that we have a handle on everything that we are the root cause and the answer. This eruptions shows how little control we have over nature and that nature will always win somthing the climate loonies should remember.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Halifax – the tragedy is that warnings were made recently about increased volcanic activity but it seems they were either ignored or not passed on .

      Also – it is obvious that global warming causes volcanoes to erupt this adding to poisons in the atmosphere . Therefore I’m proposing to ban volcanoes and get them concreted over . I’m sure Jeremy Corbyn Will brings them back into public ownership ‘ .


  33. Halifax says:

    Sat awake up at 5 wondering what happened to “The Storm” we were promised and I’m still sticking with Labour getting less than 100 seats ……I’ll see if I can get back to sleep.


  34. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch
    Both the BBC news and newspaper review allow presenters to repeat pro far left Labour propaganda of pictures alleging an incompetent International health service .

    And a snippet of Tourette’s Robinson asking a voter “would ever vote for the Tories ?”. The “ever “ does the bias because it encourages the reply “no”.

    I hope the ‘threat’ to end the BBC TV Tax has traction but fear the chat will disappear if a better story comes along or if the Conservatives win an outright majority – which the bookies are reflecting is most likely to happen .

    Last night I predicted that more emotionally charged pictures will be published showing an apparent failing health service . It s not nice to be right . Fortunately it will only reinforce what people already believe …


  35. Fedup2 says:

    Checking the twitter – the conservatives have published a campaign video called “brexit , actually ‘ and – even for someone as jaded as me – is a brilliant message sell .

    I’m betting it will never be mentioned or shown by the BBC but as I watched – if it had been done by Comrade Corbyn – the far left BBC would be all over it …..


    • Not Gwent says:

      Yes the EU will prove to be the issue that cannot be easily solved after Thursday. It depends either on the goodwill of others or on being willing to walk away.

      Throwing money around by tax, borrow and spend in reaction to (what after C4 were caught doing I suspect are staged) photos at home is far simpler; if that’s what floats the voter’s boat.

      Or are we all more capable of critical reading then I give credit for?


    • Deborah says:

      The Daily Mail has the Brexit video headline as ‘Bizarre video’. Last night two friends forwarded it to me and so did Conservatives. I watched until the end. Why did the DM think it bizarre? Momentum out in full on the comments.


  36. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1

    Awake at 5.30 so it is inescapable today. The BBC R4 News and the Toady Prog are all over the boy-asleep-on-hospital-floor photo.

    I get the distinct feeling that either Bojo wants to be a comedian on telly (and is miffed ‘they’ won’t let him so hints at ending TV Licence as act of revenge) or like Theresa May in 2017, possibly, he wants to throw this General Election, get Labour in power to take on (and mess up) Brexit and to also put the taxpayers money where Labour’s mouth is, ruin the economy, and make a comeback cleaning up the resulting mess.

    I laugh now at the the thought that Labour were even more terrified at the thought of Dominic Cummings as Bojo’s Chief of Staff than they were over Bojo in No.10 & his getting a General Election.

    Cummings ain’t so clever at managing The Clown after all.


  37. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2

    You do wonder at the intelligence of Police forces. We have the obsession of our own in the UK on being politically correct. Now the NZ Police think a Volcano may have committed a crime. I’d like to see them trying get that into a Courtroom and in the dock.

    Intelligent, probing, questions asked by BBC N&CA?

    Do you need to ask?


  38. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3

    The SNP on the rack with our favourite Bee Lady who struggles to get an edge in wordways at the stream of gabbling excuses for a failing NHS in Scotland where two babies have died.

    The SNP spokesperson – the Wee Hen herself – blames old people.

    For the deaths of two children. Disgraceful.

    Then the Wee Hen moves on to blaming Tory austerity. She should know that she is fully responsible for funding public services in Scotland. Just like the Mayor of London, the Wee Hen tries to shift responsibility onto someone else.

    Martha met her match. Maybe that interview should have been saved for mauler Mishal to deal with.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Didn’t hear it. But the problem in general is that journalists south of the border do not know enough about the SNP or devolved government generally to take them to task. They therefore get away with waffling in a way Westminster politicians do not.

      North of the border, we just don’t seem to have many journalists prepared to risk being cut out of the loop by seriously challenging them.


      • Sluff says:

        The gleaming new, old-stone facia-ed multipurpose health centre just outside Fort William (easily accessible by car and with a large car park- no pot holes) and its willingness to treat visitors with minimal bureaucracy) suggests to me that there is plenty of money available in Scotland.
        How the state sector spends it, how wisely, and with what rigorous control, is of course a completely different matter.

        Maybe what the NHS needs is not more doctors and nurses, but accountants and auditors, not to mention operating theatre administrators (see a previous post).


        • Up2snuff says:

          Sluff: “Maybe what the NHS needs is not more doctors and nurses, but accountants and auditors, not to mention operating theatre administrators (see a previous post).”

          I think the NHS and Departments for Health in all the devolved responsibilities have more than enough ‘suits’. I’d get rid of at least 50% of them (more in England) and have just one person, responsible for managing the devolved Health Care with a constantly growing budget. Any failures would be down to them and they could then be sacked by the relevant Secretary of State for Health.

          Government responsibility for health would be managing the nation as a whole, keeping it happy and prosperous, and the NHS thus, as well as adequately funded.


  39. Deborah says:

    Classic FM headline Tuesday morning; Moira Stewart reports that Labour will sort out the NHS in 100 days. First problem as I see it would be, ‘where to get the staff?’. MSM will report anything Labour says.


    • Guest Who says:

      Moira’s monotone intoning of anything Global tripe serves her up is why Classic FM is no longer played here.


      • Old Goat says:

        Sympathise whole-heartedly with that – I can’t stand the woman, and “news” once an hour is bad enough, without it being thrust at us every twenty minutes. If Global considered her appointment a “catch”, then I think they should consider throwing her back.


  40. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #4

    Hugh Grant is allowed to lecture us thanks to Nick Robinson being totally star struck and unable to ask any probing questions.

    Hugh Grant was allowed to say that “we were told a lot of lies” during the EU Referendum Campaign. He was allowed to get in his pitch for tactical voting. The only concern Nick Robinson appeared to show (that I can remember) was for Hugh Grant’s level of Income Tax payable under a Corbyn Government. [ Maybe Nick was thinking of his own tax bill, too. 😉 ]


    • Up2snuff says:

      I forgot to mention that Nick Robinson allowed Hugh Grant to assert that Bojo’s Conservative Party campaign is being funded by Russian money without any challenge or demand for evidence or careful legal qualification “views your own”, whatsoever.


      Absolutely shameful.


      • Guest Who says:

        Yet the bbc will give over the pulpit to anyone using the ‘x didn’t counter y’ wimp argument, selectively.


      • tarien says:

        Agree Up2snuff out of interest how is it known that the Conservative Party campaign is being funded by Russian money? Time for the security police to be knwoking at someones door. As far as Hugh Grant is concerned-a interfering busy body, a man who is very wealthy, and who gets bored easily and who feels the UK is not bringing him into the Christmas spirit and so decides to make a lot of noise-Traitor and I would say it to his face. Knowing nothing about anything and everything about nothing.


    • thehoiman says:

      “The only concern Nick Robinson appeared to show (that I can remember) was for Hugh Grant’s level of Income Tax payable under a Corbyn Government.”

      Of course, Hugh doesn’t actually need worry about that – he’ll simply bugger off and work across the pond for a few years, until it’s ‘safe’ for him to return. Naturally – once back – he’ll be sure to tell anyone who’ll listen how ‘nasty’ the party who *aren’t* taking the lion’s share of his pay packet are.


  41. JamesArthur says:

    BBC is still at it..worse than ever..R4 already had Sturgeon and Labour on…and this crap over a picture that looks set up…but judging by the responses to the latest twitter baby NHS picture the public are not as gullible as MSM think..

    I really can’t watch or listen to MSM at the moment for more than 30 secs


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      James = well, you would have loved the fact that Nick Robinson currently has Sinn Fein on, in a last ditch effort to get their MPs to take their seats in parliament, to block Brexit.
      Sturgeon tried to bluster her way out of her interview with an argument that “however bad Scotland is doing, it’s not as bad as Wales or England” or wherever! No attempt to deny poor NHS performance in Scotland. Or in any other field.
      As for “that photo”, it first appeared in the Labour rag “The Mirror”, which suggests that Boris has been the victim of a very careful set-up, in which the Mirror, the BBC, and journos from other papers had a carefully-worked out part to play.
      Hugh Grant has also been on, appealing that voters should vote strategically/ tactically to vote ‘anti-Boris’
      wherever they can.
      Currently, Nick is celebrating the impeachment of Trump.


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Of course, the “Jack” photo is worth its weight in gold for Labour/the Bbc, as it links in to the Labour theme of the Nhs and the beeb theme of ‘trust’ in Boris and thus plays a more significant role than would at first appear, in marrying up these themes.
        Radio4 have even raised the issue of The Rohynga again, this morning, with Suu Kyi having to defend her country in an international tribunal. A remote African state has been put up to accuse her. (Most African states regrettably do not bear closer examination, from your Nigerias to your Somalias.) So remote is good.
        Still not a word, not one, about another racist campaign, in which one group has been especially targeted: the Whites of South Africa.
        As alleged with the Rohynga, rape plays a special role in this campaign of violence and intimidation, as does brutal torture and a special campaign to target women and the elderly.
        It has been taken to the international Court, but our heroic Beeb and other media will maintain complete radio silence on this one. Wrong victims. And the perpetrators are sacrosanct.
        South Africa Today 1344 also reports the first killing by a road having been blocked with a wall of stones, erected to injure or kill, and then rob, the victim.


        • JamesArthur says:

          good summary of the BBC and why it should be closed…well sold and money given back to those that paid for it


    • Guest Who says:

      The Today Programme

      “There will come moments when you’re suddenly sprung with something…”

      Robert Buckland challenged by Nick Robinson as to why Boris Johnson took the phone of a reporter trying to show him a photo of a boy having to lie on a hospital floor.


      How many pictures have Jeremy and John had sprung on them, Nick? Not many if you value your safety. They know people.


  42. Demon says:

    In 2017 I predicted from the start of the campaign that the Conservatives were wrong to call an election as it would be a lot closer than the polls suggested at the start. I was convinced they would end up with a lot fewer seats than they started with although I didn’t think it would be a hung parliament.

    I voted Tory because I wanted to believe May’s lies about implementing Brexit and no deal is better than etc. etc. Despite voting UKIP in the previous two elections.

    I do believe the polls are being manipulated again, like last time, to engineer a defeat for the Conservatives. Despite my misgivings I will be voting Consrvative again as any other result will kill off all forms of Brexit for good. Forever!!

    I hope that all people who support Brexit will hold their noses and vote for their Tory candidate because that is the only result that, at least, keeps Brexit on the table.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Demon- If anything, the Beeb has been far happier, this time around, to come out in explicit support of Labour. The mask of ‘impartiality’ has been dumped in the trash can.


    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      The CONservatives are counting on people like you to help them get BRINO done.


      • Demon says:

        At least Brexit will still be on the table. Any other result will consign Brexit to the dustbin of history. Mark me, I would rather have the Brexit Party holding the balance of power in a coalition with the Conservatives but it won’t happen. Johnson needs an overall majority or we will never get the chance of Brexit ever again. No hyperbole, just fact. No other country will then try to leave as they will see it’s impossible. If you want Brexit then hold your nose and vote Tory.

        I’d rather have BRINO than never Brexit.


      • Roland Deschain says:

        Lucy, I don’t follow your argument. Whilst not many here think Boris’s agreement is a true Brexit, the stark fact is that it’s the only one we’re going to get. If Boris doesn’t get a majority, Brexit is over, at least via the ballot box. Somewhere between 0 and 5 Brexit MPs simply isn’t going to do it.

        I’m afraid we have to face reality. We get something and take things from there or we get nothing and go back to the start. There is no combination in this election that gets us everything.


    • smoogie7 says:

      There is no option but to vote Tory unless it does look like a Brexit Party candidate or an independent could take a Labour seat. We might need it if we hit hung parliament territory.

      Gina Miller now has polls coming out from ComRes who themselves are known to favour Labour. No change for Labour but one point extra for the Tories. I expect Gina to spam out polls every few hours until she gets the result she wants


      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        “There is no option but to vote Tory”
        Because there are only two boxes on your ballot paper?


  43. Guest Who says:

    “You think you know about echo chambers…. I’ll give you echo chambers!”

    These tools ever seen Jeremy when crossed?

    First against the wall when the revolution comes.


  44. Sluff says:

    And now it’s time for a quick game of ‘spot the hypocrites’..

    The BBC are consistently force-feeding us about all things to do with global warming and climate change. We can all agree that.

    So, where are they staging next Sunday’s Sports Personality of the Year?
    Why, Aberdeen of course.

    Could this be because the great and the good fancy the 12 hour round trip by train from Manchester? Or the 15 hour round trip from London? Longer by car. Much longer by bus. Even longer by sailing craft.

    Or could the fact that Aberdeen airport has been recently extended and upgraded, and there are regular flights there from Heathrow and Manchester for the great and the good taking little more than an hour be anything to do with it?

    Do as I say, not as I do.


  45. Guest Who says:



  46. G says:

    To hear Sopel’s appraisal of the impeachment proceedings on Toady at 0700 was to believe that there is no response whatever from the Republican side. The stark bias of our BlackAsian Broadcasting Corp. is no more extreme than in Sopel’s reporting of the impeachment proceedings. Listening to Sopel, you could easily believe that Donald J Trump is doomed on this slow, inevitable journey to impeachment. This dishonest form of reporting is targeting, who? Who benefits from the lies and distortions of the BABC so-called, ‘News’? Who is it meant to assist? For sure anybody visiting any of the internet US channels following the issue would quickly realise what the BABC was up too.
    Lets remind ourselves what legal ‘Dishonesty’ in the UK is defined ( R v Ghosh (1982) in a two-part test:
    Had the defendant been dishonest by the ordinary standards of reasonable and honest people?; If, ‘yes’,
    Did the defendant realise that he/she had been dishonest by those subjective standards? If ‘yes’ again, the defendant had been dishonest.
    On both counts the BABC reporting is dishonest, legally.


  47. Guest Who says:

    Most British people appear to agree on a wide variety of subjects – from believing in the NHS, to supporting equal pay.


    Actual bbc ‘news’ headline. Coincidentally bracketed by identical labour sponsored ads on FB.


  48. Guest Who says:

    Most BBC attack lines with those who don not bow to bbc orthodoxy end up making play of what is refused to be admitted.

    This is the same bbc whose DG almost never speaks to anyone but BBC sycophants or through subordinates, often themselves anonymously.

    That they self protect by exemptions and uniques whilst attacking others not held to account as they would be is an hypocrisy too far.


  49. Venutius says:

    The clip encapsulates everything wrong with British politics and BBC political broadcast debate.

    Any opinion to the right, or not ‘woke’, is immediately and ‘en mass’ challenged by ‘triggered Meerkats’. Any attempt to reply or respond to the aggression is closed and shouted down to prevent space for adequate explanation. Should this fail, the bias audience is ready like a ‘baying mob’ to boo and hiss while the Compere, in this case Emma Barnett, smugly looks on, complicit.

    It’s an absolute disgrace. It’s bias. It’s disrespectful, intellectually base and tells us nothing.

    If panel members are not given the opportunity to puts their points fairly for us all to judge then we have a circus not a debate.

    Compare the current QT with the clip below (1970’s) and one can see how far the BBC and our nation has fallen. The debate and passions are exactly the same, yet respect, decorum and intelligence have all been lost.

    How the BBC get away with this is beyond me. The licence fee needs to be scrapped. We should not pay for this.