Weekend Thread 23 November 2019

The Far Left Biased BBC now has three weeks to sell the Labour Plan to sell out Brexit and Crash the economy . We can expect full coverage of non labour/Liberal candidates being abused whilst Labour candidates will be heroic in their support of Jeremy Corbyn . We must think of the many who can no longer stand the Bias and unfair coverage and the few who still force themselves to witness what the BBC is doing .

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254 Responses to Weekend Thread 23 November 2019

  1. Emmanuel Goldstein says:



    • StewGreen says:

      The last thread ended with a few posts about the Question Time debate
      page 5 and – bottom of page 4
      page 3 finished on Thursday 3pm


    • tarien says:

      An utterly discreditable political party-On Thursday the Labour Party launched its manifesto for the general election on 12 December 2019. Focusing purely on Brexit.The key points of Labour’s manifesto on Remain/Brexit
      • Negotiate a new deal with the EU within 90 days of taking office
      • This will require yet another extension from the EU of the Article 50 period – the FOURTH since 29 Mar 2019
      • ‘No deal’ is completely rejected – even as a negotiating position
      • New ‘deal’ will include a permanent Customs Union and Single Market provisions
      • Free movement to continue
      • Funding EU agencies to continue
      • Maintaining level playing field on all EU legislation
      • There will be a Transition Period of undefined length
      • Second Referendum to be held within 120 days of taking office
      • Options to be Remain or New Deal – no Leave option will be presented to voters
      • Options is only:
      • Remain
      • Remain, but with no vote
      Incomprehensible as to why the Conservative, Brexit, and UKIP parties have not pointed this out in very strong terms. Under a Labour government a second referendum will take place within 120 days, without even a Leave option on the ballot paper.
      • Labour rejects Mr Johnson’s ‘Withdrawal Agreement and Political Declaration’ because it does not keep the UK aligned strongly enough in the EU. Any renegotiation with the EU by a Labour government should in fact be easy, because Labour only want to deliver almost everything associated with full EU membership, but without having any vote on anything the EU decides. The EU will lap it up.
      In the Sunday Telegraph the veteran and respected Labour MP Kate Hoey was interviewed.
      “Well, the Labour Party has left me,” she sighs. “Labour simply does not have a credible policy on leaving the EU.”
      “I know Jeremy is genuinely anti-EU, always has been. We’ve walked through the same lobby for decades, voting against Maastricht etc, but he’s not been strong enough. He had a Parliamentary party that was stuffed with Remainers. They knew they couldn’t get rid of him as leader so they’ve used the EU issue to get at him. Jeremy’s allowed himself to be completely stitched up, particularly by John McDonnell.” Here, here to that-A new Labour leader in waiting, me thinks?


      • Beltane says:

        McDonnell for PM? Surely that’s been Momentum’s plan all along. Let’s face it, they’re both pro-IRA bastards but McDonnell has their true and utterly unprincipled savagery. Jeremy is, well, a Jeremy by comparison.


      • Beltane says:

        McDonnell for PM? Surely that’s been Momentum’s plan all along. Let’s face it, they’re both pro-IRA bastards but McDonnell has their true and utterly unprincipled savagery. Jeremy is, well, a Jeremy by comparison.


  2. brexiteerkent says:

    At least others have noticed how biased the question time debate was


    Had to switch off half way through Boris’s grilling by the BBC leftie rent a mob. Glad he apparently made it through.

    Then BBC ten o clock news visits an art / dance school for a review of reactions to the debate. .. Not a local pub or a bowls club .. No, an art dance school ..


    • smoogie7 says:

      Let me guess?

      ‘Corbyn seemed quite good actually’

      ‘I do not support Boris’

      ‘I liked Corbyn’s Brexit stance’

      ‘I like the way that Corbyn wants to fund the NHS and end homelessness’


      • Up2snuff says:

        smoogie, please let me correct point no.2 ” ‘I do not support Boris’ ”
        should read ‘Boris is a liar – I cannot trust him.’.

        That appears to be the current BBC narrative that I hear.


    • Guest Who says:

      Paul seems of a different view.

      Amazing he last so long there, and they keep inviting him back.


      • smoogie7 says:

        Well there is no ‘best of Corbyn’ so that makes sense!


      • Guest Who says:

        Mr. Mason also is a fan of this lady, who the bbc like too. A lot.


        • Jeff says:

          It’s a wonder this pathetic little twerp didn’t refer to Douglas as also being homophobic, along with his litany of other imagined sins.
          All these ugly people have in their arsenal is contrived victim-hood and abuse.
          They have no genuine economic policies, no concept of decency and no right to be given a free pass by the parasites at the BBC.
          And now I hear she supports Diane Abbott!
          Well, there’s a surprise…


        • chancygardner says:

          “Here’s me and my sister”

          A teacher.

          God help us.


        • JamesArthur says:

          Guest..reading the Twitter comments she just dug herself a big hole – into which it seems she should crawl – she does exemplify these bigoted people – and she is a teacher –

          She sums up two of my favourite ideas: one is a research study that has been repeated a few times – Basically it supports the view that stupid people are too stupid to realise they are stupid..and as my old boss used to say – you can’t argue with an idiot..
          she fits both camps


          • Guest Who says:

            James, at some stage it would be good to have a panel of the bbc great, good and gormless… Lord Tone, Franny Come Lately, There Went Mr. Jordan, Rob ‘Circle the Wagons Again’ Burley… and have them quizzed by a non BBC-selected audience on how it is ordinary members of the public like Our Holly appear to make it opposite apparently clueless and credulous BBC highly-paid interviewers to speak for the nation.

            Are they invited on? Do they apply? Do their agents have compromising images of Bbc producers with goats? Do they sit in reception and pretend to be taxi drivers?


    • brexiteerkent says:

      Question. To corybn ‘ how is it that you and your policies are so wonderful and great for everybody’ ( there were at least two like that)

      Question to Boris ‘ why are you a disgusting racist’ .. Also, the rain and floods were all boris’s fault too ( the person saying that got lots of applause)

      Completely biased audience which is why I stopped watching question time years ago.


      • Up2snuff says:

        bk, “Also, the rain and floods were all boris’s fault too” yes, but, no but, Bojo does himself no favours at times – in fact as one newspaper Editor observed, “He is is own worst enemy.”

        Bojo was particularly brainless on the flooding. He had had the example of his predecessor’s failure over the Grenfell fire tragedy. A plain example of what not to do as PM. He then goes and does exactly the same sort of thing. I despair!

        He could have got off his big, fat, backside and up to Yorkshire a lot sooner as well as avoiding stupid photos with mops, etc..

        As Matt Hancock observed on TOADY: “He has only been PM for 120 days.” to which I would add “And already proved himself to be a complete muppet, with or without a mop.”

        Poor old Dominic Cummings must have been near suicidal after that one!


    • StewGreen says:

      The last thread ended with a few posts about the Question Time debate
      page 5 and – bottom of page 4
      page 3 finished on Thursday 3pm


  3. Dystopian says:

    BBC bias.
    Eastenders – nasty policemen stop and search black guy.
    Black guy playing the victim.
    Surely he should welcome the fact that the police are stopping and checking people for knives seeing as his brother was previously stabbed to death?
    Oh, but wait…..his brother was stabbed by a nasty white boy!


  4. smoogie7 says:

    I did not watch question time as I cannot be dealing with any stress but caught up with some highlights. I heard that Johnson was booed as he got onto stage.

    How many people booed him? Just two or three? Labour plants obviously.

    What was Johnson’s strong points? What was Corbyn’s weak points?

    I heard that Swinson was rubbish while Sturgeon is irrelevant outside of Scotland anyway so no interest in what those two have to say


  5. StewGreen says:

    The BBC run a radio station : Radio4
    This radio station has a Facebook page ..I guess to promote its programmes
    ..But its top of the page highlighted post is just IDEOLOGY
    “<b<BBC Radio 4November 20 at 4:34 PM ·
    Have you tried to reduce your use of plastic?”

    There is no radio prog attached
    but Below it they attach a bbc web story
    BBC Radio 4 :The world is beginning to tackle the threat of plastic waste, according to Sir David Attenborough https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-50419922


  6. Nibor says:

    BBC Reality Check .

    Many of you will be receiving in the post a brown paper envelope with something inside .

    On the envelope is a message ; Are You In ? Important information enclosed .
    And next to that is a box with an X in it !

    So it’s something to do with the election , my vote in it ? This could be important , as they say and my
    vote matters does it not ?
    Now who would want to interfere in elections , to frighten folks , to use the election for their own ends ?

    The BBC . It’s their new threatogram . Money with menaces .

    Being lower than a double glazing company using free postal deliveries in election times to sell their wares , the BBC is using the time of the election to pretend one thing to threaten another . To use or undermine democracy to swell their coffers , to show where X marks the spot where they have comntempt for the time an ordinary Joe can partake in the political decisions of the country .


  7. BRISSLES says:

    Even Adam Boulton on Sky this morning admitted to never watching QT because it was the audience that set the agenda.


  8. Roland Deschain says:

    Disclaimer: I haven’t watched it and have no intention of doing so. In fact, I can’t understand why anyone would bother.


    • Demon says:

      I saw a bit of Swinson, and from what I saw, she was almost exclusively being attacked from the Left.

      I saw a bit of Boris and he was being attacked both by Bruce and the Left-wing audience. It was amazing that Bruce managed to pick on random audience members who, between them, covered the whole of Labour’s attack plan. Very clever Bruce, I don’t know how you managed it but your unerring accuracy in finding these “random” marxists should make you a legend.

      Needless to say I soon gave up completely. That’s the reason I haven’t watched normal QT for years.


      • john in cheshire says:

        I’m sorry but perhaps Mr Johnson deserves all he gets if he’s stupid enough to appear on any racist far-left bbc programme.


        • Demon says:

          And if he didn’t appear they would have a field day ridiculing his cowardice and, therefore, unfitness for office. That was ultimately what did for May in 2017. Boris was put in the position of being damned if he didn’t attend and attacked if he did. I think he did as well as he could under that barrage of Labour invective and constant interruptions from Bruce.


          • G.W.F. says:


            He could go there, and defend conservative principles,stop grovelling to the Islamophiles and climate freaks for a start. Straighten himself up and shape like a man. As for Bruce, work out in advance an all purpose put down for her and stick it on her.


    • StewGreen says:


    • lojolondon says:

      BBC is the propaganda wing of the Labour party.


  9. Philip_2 says:

    BBC REALITY (does it EXIST)? If we presume that ‘False-news’ needs to be checked by the BBC, then obviously logically some other false news does NOT get checked by the BBC (why is that?). Who is telling the truth. if nobody is telling the truth, is everybody then correct? An inconvenient Truth is telling the fevered public what is expected to want to hear (even though it turns out to be totally wrong when found to be as inaccurate as Attenborough Penguins). History is interesting because it is not written by the BBC, although they are busy re-writing it. They have the power of influence. So called ‘soft power’ of influence. The Guardian flower eaters and Twitter buds.

    Believe it or not the BBC is going into the Ministry of Truth business. Perhaps it’s well-intentioned now but there’s always a risk of mission creep. The inference that the BBC’s own news is never misleading is interesting.
    H/T Lord Beaverbrook


    What if the BBC don’t know?, would they ever admit that? Who’s to know? That is the truth in Politics. Does the WINNER (always) WIN? Nobody knows the future more than 50% of the time. Its a myth. The BBC think they know 100%, which is an obvious false claim, nobody sane would say that without a close Political bias to ‘win’. Economists have proven to be pretty poor at predictions at UK prospects. And the ‘not-very-academic’ BBC EXPERTS have been considerably wrong on Climate – but right about ‘hysterical claims’ which are getting worse each year. But whatever ‘truth is out – there will be a ‘down payment’ (whoever gets elected) for more GREEN taxes, which is at an all time high in Europe. And about to double our UK electricity costs. That is a fact. Rising costs in a country that trades on low pay. Unless you work at the BBC ‘wokers’ (sic) paradise.

    As Rumsfold told us ‘there are known knowns’, and we don’t know the total of the other unknowns – or something similar to that. He was right in that we cannot know everything. The BBC claim they do. So who is telling the truth?

    BBC facts are like Chocolate, they melt under observation yet hold up quite well in a fridge which remains locked. Then CO2 has been used in many dry-ice commercials, (its that fog you see on dance floors), and is present in all fizzy drinks and most beer (some Beer is Nitrogen, but not many), and then we have the rather tricky problem of Concrete, as this gives off vast amounts of CO2 in its construction and setting for more housing in tall Pyramids. The Greens also want some place to live without plastic, concrete, steel, manufacturer of any kind (carbon credits remove the industry to a third world nation that ‘sells’ carbon credits’ which we (the consumer) have to pay for as a GREEN tax. The middleman (EU or UN or both) set the rules of the game. Nothing is actually reduced. It all remains exactly the same.

    The fact that CO2 is entirely harmless and is essential to most like of Earth, and is NOT the cause of any global climate change has been proved since Michael Mann Hockey Stick Graph (as used by Al Gore). But The Facts are inconvenient here. The real BBC fact checking unit would prefer to tell us a ‘lie’ to prove the ‘truth’ that its a lie. The fact that it is a policy of the UN ‘one world government program’ (UN AGENDA global Sustainable program = Agenda 21 = Climate change). So False News is (somehow) good for us collectively (as we don’t understand the true ‘FACTS’). A bit like BREXIT. Democracy (as in Accountability) to BBC finances leads to questions that we cannot possibly understand! You see we need to pay for BBC ‘T-A-L-E-N-T’ (and they have lots of it hidden away at the BBC). Rather too much of it on display.

    That is why we need a BBC Reality FACT checking service! And that is why we need a vast network of EU Bureaucrats to explain to us ‘plebs’ by raising our UK taxes to pay for ‘TOXIC” CO2 emissions that won’t make the slightest change to the environment whilst working for the BBC. These will be the new Sun gods. Stars in transit across the heavens on celestial wings of pure vapour. Dramatic orators and display ‘artistes’ of small (getting smaller) silver (mobile) screen.

    BBC reality FACTS will prosper the ‘needy’ rich who will be similar to the sun god G-RETA (pronounced on pain of public humiliation to deny the true destiny of the STARS who predict the end of the world is nigh). If successful, it will be a repeat of the Egyptian Gods. Pyramids of Toasters will be made (made in China) to appease the true believers. Toast being banned.

    A bus load of facts, all wrong and so RIGHT it has to be true. If you don’t like that FACT, then they will have another, (all very similar at 97%). All BBC employees agree 97% is a fact (whatever it is) because its been agreed by 97% of the same people who have no idea if its true or false. As a matter of fact, meaningless opinion that the World is (made) FLAT. 97% said so… we will all fall of the edge…

    But – If it not a fact, maybe we can make it so?


    • Richard Pinder says:

      The BBC don’t show you any facts from scientific papers on the calibration of carbon dioxide warming inside atmospheric chambers or results from glass jar experiments, because there aren’t any results to publish. The BBC can show you lots & lots of computer models based on the assumption that its true. But the reason why the carbon dioxide atmospheres of Venus and Mars have finally proven that it’s the biggest lie in history, is that the black absorption lines are probably caused by the relativistic lowering of frequency. Instead, CO2 global warming should logically show carbon dioxide producing white lines, but doesn’t because the carbon dioxide Greenhouse effect is a hoax.

      The truth is that a formula for the Greenhouse Effect based on Atmospheric mass, gravity and air pressure first suggested by James Clerk Maxwell in 1888, was proved correct in 2011 for all known Planetary Atmospheres by Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller. Carbon Dioxide, Methane and Nitrogen are all equally responsible based on their mass. So on this point I am with Piers Corbyn and Graham Stringer, and against Nigel Farage, who seems to be trapped inside the loony carbon footprint Groupthink. As the retired American MIT Professor of Atmospheric Physics, Richard Lindzen, said about Britain “there is nowhere that the irrationality of the response to this issue has been more evident”

      All because Britain has the most corrupt false news propaganda bureau in the Western World. The BBC.


  10. StewGreen says:

    A weird technical thing
    In April R4 Feedback was credited as
    … Presenter: Roger Bolton Producer: Robert Nicholson Executive Producer: Will Yates A Whistledown production for BBC Radio 4

    They had a 2 month holiday and came back in June .. credited as
    .. Presenter: Roger Bolton Producer: Kate Dixon Executive Producer: Samir Shah A Juniper Connect production for BBC Radio 4

    In 1989 I lived in America and in our city the men still did the work, but to get government contracts you rebranded your company with a black woman as the nominal head.


  11. StewGreen says:

    Your Saturday night .. The Trump hating Radio4
    have got their favourite Trump Hater to do another hit piece against the president
    on the pretence of history


  12. StewGreen says:

    Radio4 box ticking in their choice of person to profile ?


  13. StewGreen says:

    Enough ?

    Seriously the is more ..eg Dan Snow is on at 9:45am
    but you’ve had enough I know.


  14. Celtic_Mist says:


    • Demon says:

      I know Kate has always been decent and moderate, but this looks like the scales are fully coming off her eyes now. A bit like Maureen Lipman and some of those Labour MPs who are calling on people to vote Conservative.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Demon, Melanie Phillips used to describe herself as ‘a liberal mugged by reality’ and I guess that Kate, Frank Field, John Mann, Gisela Stuart, (retired but still a hero!) and other Labour MPs and supporters, could describe themselves as ‘socialists no longer willing to be mugged by the Labour Party.’.

        One of my friends is staunchly Labour, all based on a ‘class-struggle’ basis although he would not be described as ‘working-class’ by most neutral observers and is pretty well-off, financially. When I point out how Labour have consistently exploited and then failed the ‘working class’ when in Government, he replies “Oh well, they are all liars, anyway.”

        And then at the next Election he goes and votes for them automatically!

        I despair.


  15. Roland Deschain says:

    Oh, for the love of God!

    Have I entered some peculiar alternative universe where the naive and gullible are in charge?


    • Demon says:

      Has she swum back from America already?


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Has she swum back from America already?
        No, she simply walked across the water. In some places, the sea parted to allow her to inspect the coral reef.


      • john in cheshire says:

        What if there is a small group of Miss Thunberg clones, with one or more kept in readiness on every continent?
        In that way, none of them would have to travel too far and they could use local means of transport.
        Let’s face it, very few people have met Miss Thunberg in person, so if an audience is presented with a young woman who bears a passing resemblance to her, who’s going to question that it’s her?


        • theisland says:

          Reminiscent of the film “The Boys from Brazil”.


        • Deborah says:

          Having seen the John Lewis advert where somebody inserted Greta’s face onto the young girl in the ad (who looked like Greta anyway) I cannot now see the ad without seeing Greta – and not in a good way. It is doing my spending at John Lewis no good at all (Mr D breaths sigh of relief). I am also totally ‘off’ Sainsbury’s – I will not pay 30p for a reusable bag to put my vegetables in – I would rather shop elsewhere.


    • Richard Pinder says:

      I was told that the ignorant, naive and gullible have been in charge of the BBC since the BBC’s weather forecasters were sent for training by ignorant, naive and gullible environmental activists like Greta.


    • Non Snowflake says:

      I presume the hat that she’s wearing is to protect her from global warming?


    • Fedup2 says:

      For some reason when I suggested this website be ‘guest editor ‘ I didn’t get a reply ….


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, you probably need a publicist like Max Clifftop, Max RedTop, or whatever his name is, to shoehorn this web-site into the BBC like ‘Emma Watson hunting for a boyfriend’.

        She got a week’s worth from the Beeb.

        That’s gonna cost.


      • john in cheshire says:

        That’s their loss because even I’d listen if they gave you the guest editor slot.


    • Sluff says:

      There are five guest presenters.
      Charles Moore is one.
      All the others are, shall we say, various versions of trendy lefties supporting the BBC’s favourite agendas.
      In other words, normal levels of impartiality from the BBC !!


      • StewGreen says:

        R4Today : it’s 4 metroliberal extremist guest editors
        vs 1 normie Charles Moore of the Telegraph who calls BBC out on its AuntieBrexit bias
        As well as Greta : White Spider Woman Baroness Hale the judge who hates Boris and ruled his proroguing of parliament was illegal.
        Grayson Perry will work with the Today team to examine “stereotypes and conventional thinking
        – the rapper and spoken word artist George the Poet will report from Uganda and explore issues around identity.
        – The final guest editor slot will go to Charles Moore, the former editor of the Daily Telegraph, who will focus on freedom of expression in modern society.
        … Moore, who wrote the authorised biography of Margaret Thatcher and founded The Rectory Society for fans of clergy dwellings, has previously criticised the BBC over its *perceived* anti-Brexit bias.



    • Beltane says:

      I suspect she’s been told to ‘Look serious’ in the belief that people will think her intelligent.


    • dfhunter says:

      Roland – some music vids to cheer you up
      Sham 69 – If the Kids are United – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GQMIXGRjaw

      Greta Thunberg sings Swedish Death Metal – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kD1zubg3cA


  16. ScottishCalvin says:

    A doodle and thoughts on the interview. I’m off to open a bottle of wine and rewatch that Its A Knockout episode the royals did, it’s marginally better than the driven on live tv


    • Fedup2 says:

      I think you are on a roll at the moment !. Andy Windsor is the gift which keeps on giving . I think he ll be clocking up the air miles as the MSM try to pursue him around the world – I’m guessing on a ‘picture on a sunny beach with a young lady ‘ to sell a few more sundays and distract people from the prospect of a comrade Corbyn government .

      Perhaps your next doodle should be one about the comrade trying to decide whether to sit on the fence ….


      • Guest Who says:

        Maybe… a sneaky assignation with Martha in an igloo?

        Though she is around forty years too old. And for him.


      • ScottishCalvin says:

        I always find it a bit tricky because my mother watches these occasionally which means I can’t get away with certain jokes I’d like to on a topic like this: I read that he’d been quoted as using the “n word” and I thought ‘FFS Andy you racist p***, she’d called Meghan…”


  17. Doublethinker says:

    As the likelihood of a Tory Government increases and the Boris deal being implemented, I have wondered what lines the Temainers will use to continue to thwart Brexit or at least to soften it further.
    Firstly the message from the Remainer Leadership to their dupes of foot soldiers will be that a GE is not a suitable vehicle to settle a single issue like Brexit because there are so many other issues in play. Far better to have held a referendum. The irony of this will be delicious to Leavers. Of course this reflects badly on their refusal to abide by the decision of the first referendum but these anti democrats can dance on the head of a pin in order to degelitimise the will of the people. They have no shame and can’t be embarrassed by their own illogicality.
    Meanwhile the Remain HQ will be gearing up to ensure that the trade negotiations post Brexit result in a soft deal. At this point it is unclear what line The new Government will take , will they negotiate on behalf of an independent Britain seeking the best deal but prepared to walk away or will they negotiate as a supplicant begging for scraps a la May.
    There is still much to be decided about the final shape of Brexit , Leaving is only part 1 and we can expect the Remainer resistance to continue as they seek to influence the trade negotiations.


  18. Sluff says:

    What fun.
    On Toady we here a spat.
    Apparently feminists appreciate their exemptions from equality law for single sex ‘spaces’ such as women’s refuges and women’s changing rooms.
    Apparently the Labour Party manifesto supports this.
    But then along comes…….you guessed it….the Transgender issue.
    The Labour manifesto apparently is going to allow pwoplw to self-identify as women.
    Dawn Butler is apparently adamant that such self-identifying people should be allowed access to the protected women’s areas as defined by the equality act.
    The feminists are aghast.

    Truly an example of the Labour Party quite literally getting its knockers in a twist and rather fun to see the ‘progressives’ hoist by their own petard.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Labour gender stuff run by Dawn Butler – never going to end well . And even better she got a name check and accused of ‘not being on top of her brief ‘ – which is political code for ‘thick’.


  19. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – HHhancock’s Hhard Time

    Matt Hancock is not on good form and he’s up against a worried and determined JustRemainIn Webb at 8.10a.m.. JustRemainIn is worried that Bojo has a trick up his sleeve for a ‘HardBrexit’. “What’s all this revived contingency planning for No Deal?” asks JustRemainIn.

    Hancock is ill-prepared and not as robust as on his other recent TOADY forays. He has probably been busy campaigning and dealing with the start of yet another Doctors’ rebellion in the NHS. On that latter point, I hope he is willing to take advice from Party colleague Jeremy Hunt.


  20. Sluff says:

    An astonishing piece on Toady this morning

    The BBC are supporting their climate change agenda by allowing Martha Kearney to report for a week from……wait for it…..Antarctica !!!!!!! Oh the irony. She’s already there. And this morning on Toady she casually assigned the recent flooding in Yorkshire to rising sea levels!!!!!!!!!

    That’s funny. Until now, I was happy to accept the BBC weather reports which put it down to a lot of rain which fell constantly when by chance a weather front pivoted and the focal point was unfortunately over South Yorkshire.

    So here we have a BBC reporter sent at vast expense and CO2 production across the world to lecture us on climate change and then make a totally false accusation about a weather event to justify her stance.

    And all at the licence fee payer’s expense.
    Words fail me.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Sluff you’ve just saved me from doing TOADY Watch #3.



      Nice one, too.


    • StewGreen says:

      There’s more if you listen to last Sunday’s FooC where Dan Johnson made a number or errors and biases in his essay from Fishlake
      eg he praised local things like a solar park, wind turbines and “LOWER”* CO2 from Drax.
      misattributed Boris’s quote about Matlock flooding not being a national immunity.
      and of course mis-attributed Fishlake flooding to Global Warming.

      * Drax actually emits much more CO2 than ever cos half of its burn is American wood pellets which burn less efficiently than coal.
      But some accounting trickery means their actual CO2 is written down to zero the moment it leaves the chimney.


      • StewGreen says:

        typo : misattributed Boris’s quote about Matlock flooding not being a national EMERGENCY
        (Boris was not talking about Fishlake, it was in Matlock a few days earlier when a journo asked him if the Matlock floods were a NATIONAL emergency..
        Boris quickly said no, and he ws right cos at that time it was just a regional thing)


  21. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Total Turn-off or ….

    I already don’t bother listening to Propaganda Propagation, the BBC News & Current Affairs programme formerly known as TODAY, during the week after Christmas when it is ‘Guest edited’.

    I would listen if it were ordinary listeners guest editing the programme, but Propaganda from Slebs is a definite turn-off in this house.

    However, the fact that Greta Thunberg is one of the Guest Editors may just tempt me to turn on the radio, if only to hear her say “How dare you!”


    • StewGreen says:

      Last night before the announcement I’d actually tweeted one of the presenters to ask if it was true that Radio4 staff have put a shrine to St Greta in the lobby.


  22. Sluff says:

    A post script to the QT debate last night.
    With gritted teeth I watched it all and there is no doubt whatever thatbthe audience was stuffed with Jezza cronies, as evidenced among other things by the stooge left wing actress pretending to me a random member of the public and the cheering for Jezza before he even said anything, and the silence when a member of the audience challenged him on anti-semitism.

    But very strangely the subsequent coverage in the news bulletins seems to me quite even handed. Jezza gets about the same coverage as Boris, and only Jo Swinson is revealed to have got the pasting she did.

    Something rum going on, methinks. An attempt to airbrush away the bias on the night, perhaps?


  23. Cassandra says:



    • Guest Who says:

      A broadcaster should run a ‘debate’ claiming to be from representatives of all parties and then reveal a row of full burkas.

      Be fun watching the editorial guys in the studio trying to decide who to zoom in on when a question is posed.


  24. Foscari says:

    I have been reading Douglas Murray’s “The Madness of Crowds.”
    For somebody who is not the most literate of individuals
    it has at times been a hard slog. BUT after reading his chapter
    on “The importance of tech” I realised that I am not paranoid
    about the BBC! Now please indulge me.
    Murray writes for anybody to work for the tech giants such as
    Google in Silicon Valley they have to prove that they are
    the right kind “socially.” If not , NO JOB. How does that work
    out? It works out I expect exactly how the BBC employ.
    Murray explains. If you go to Google and want to know
    about European art You might think that it would
    come up is the Mona Lisa . or Van Gogh’s Sunflowers. The
    first picture on Google Images is by Diego Valazquez. This is
    not so surprising . However it is
    not Las Meninas or the portrait of Pope Innocent X. The first
    picture offered to someone searching for European Art is
    the one of Velaquez’s portrait of his assistant Juan de Pareja,
    who was black. If you carry on reading page 116 you will fully
    understand Google’s agenda. And it is a diversity and
    “positive” discrimination which is mirrored by the BBC. The
    BBC’S believes it’s purpose is to educate us in a way that IT
    believes itself to be correct . And the only correctness.
    It believes that to remain in the EU is the only political
    solution . And it is trying to achieve this by any Machiavellian
    way it can.
    Their main approach is to try and get Labour elected . And to
    do this they are using every possible devious ploy they can.
    Their two main aims is to make the NHS the number one topic
    and to try and put Brexit out of the picture. One of the
    main reason’s the NHS has its problems is the way that
    that A&E departments are bursting with patients who
    have not joined a surgery and therefore go to A&E and
    swamp the departments.
    So the BBC is going to marginals such as Norwich yesterday
    and find as many people as they can to run down the NHS
    and infer it’s all the Conservatives fault.
    Why the Conservatives are having anything to do with the
    BBC during this election is a mystery. What did Boris Johnson
    think what kind of “invited” audience was he going to get
    last night. Or that Fiona Bruce a staunch remainer like
    99% of those at the BBC was going to treat him as
    compared to the rest . Did he honestly think that the Trotskyist
    editors at the BBC were going to allow a balanced audience?
    The BBC like Google have an agenda. We can’t do much about
    Google . But if the Conservatives do win a majority I would
    make scrapping the license fee and making the BBC a
    subscription channel a major priority.


    • G says:

      Yes, I’ve just recently finished the book. “I couldn’t put it down”? No, for me, I had difficulty in picking it up to resume reading. Most of the work is a summary of what we all ready know is in progress. Just two full pages on the effect of Marxism and a few scattered references in the conclusion does not do justice to the overwhelming effect of that particular ideology at present.
      I would have thought Murray would have dwelt upon the principal actors in all the madness: the likes of the UN and Agenda 21 (et. seq), Soros and their conspiratorial web and identifying prime individuals and their subservience to those influences. Because they are the elephant in Murray’s living room. A disappointment in my view. A better read? – ‘The Red Trojan Horse – A Concise Analysis of Cultural Marxism’ by Alasdair Elder.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Foscari – The decision by the Bbc to quietly re-educate (brainwash) us is an evil and sinister one. It is in any event a racist organisation, ever more anti-white in principle. For example, I was hugely astonished to hear the late news on radio4 last night read, edited and produced by what sounded like ‘traditional’ English names. Even more astonishingly, the presenter was male. It’s been years since I’ve heard this combination happen, for that is one programme solidly in the hands of a certain group. And you could hear easily it in the contents.
      There is also unquestionably a strong pro-Labour hype, which no amount of ‘equal’ platform sharing in 1 programme will hide. (While everything else is manipulated). In fact, the fuss the beeb has made about the Labour manifesto is quite unparalleled – sort of on first moon landing level.
      For the Brexit launch I had to go to ITV for an interview with Nigel.

      The conclusion is quite clear: personally, I see no obligation to pay any licence fee to this most partial and manipulative of broadcasters, and I shall let them know why. I hope everyone else agrees with me.

      We need to ask the Tory Party whether, like the Brexit Party, they will PROMISE to remove the bbc licence fee, or forfeit our vote.


  25. Cassandra says:



  26. G says:

    You’ll love this one. Yesterday, I reported here that YouTube & Facebook took down a video by Dr Steve Turley which set out the involvement of Soros with the ongoing impeachments. I found it on Bitchute: https://www.bitchute.com/video/5Mx4lgzoy9M/
    This is one pure evil individual.


    • theisland says:

      Thanks. Brexit even gets a mention at 10:50.
      I hope he is right about Soros’ efforts collapsing (but I wouldn’t bet on it).
      From our point of view the question is who really runs the UK and how are the different elements of the ‘great scheme’ – whether it be ‘Remaining’ or other forms of corruption – co-ordinated?

      It may be that the bBC’s allocated (by whom?) job is solely to create divisions and diversions by perpetuating myths.


  27. Not Gwent says:

    I’ve been busy so not watched or listened to State Broadcaster though chanced upon the website news that the environmental activist person from Sweden was to guest edit Today.

    State Broadcaster loves its poster girls and this announcement comes after yesterday Auntie preaching at us *all* about the evil of air travel.

    Causes and poster girls. I’m surprised only that Begum isn’t one of the fab five editorial team between Christmas and New Year.


  28. davylars says:

    Characters from QT last night






  29. StewGreen says:

    Are the Radio news still following the instruction
    ” Lead with Labour” ?
    … This morning our local BBC stations opened their news with 2 words
    Guess ..?

    clue the initials J C


  30. pugnazious says:

    Justin Webb to Labour’s Laura Pidcock asking about Jezza’s position on Brexit….

    ‘When you go to a Remain voters doorstep and they say that Brexit was a Far-Right plot funded by well…whoever…what will you say to them?’

    Maybe if it’s Justin Webb’s doorstep but why on earth did he use this completely unnecessary extreme analogy that smears Brexit, Leave politicians and voters as Far-Right especially when it is well established that being Euro-Sceptic has usually been just as much a left-wing position as Right…and Corbyn is well known to be anti-EU?

    Blatant bias.


    • Up2snuff says:

      pug, nice to see a young Jon Sopel in the studio there before he became old and twisted and bitter and the North American Editor of the BBC. Nice also to see old Peter Shore, now deceased (video was from 1996) whose rousing address to the Oxford Union pre-1975 EEC Referendum was going the rounds again in early 2016.

      Not sure Peter Shore had got his economic ducks totally in a straight row, when talking about deflation and Government spending but it can have an effect on deflation as well as the more usual inflation.


  31. Guest Who says:

    Gotta love ex-BBC senior editors… the guys who choose audiences that speak for nations.


  32. Guest Who says:

    In the bag.



    We will be happy to help anyone register to vote today at our campaign stall. We will also have some voter registration forms for those individuals who are homeless or have no fixed address.


    But have Facebook.


  33. Beltane says:

    I’d guess John Rentoul is fuming, davylars. That copy was supposed to be for the Telegraph, must have pressed the wrong ‘send’ button. The Indie won’t pay so well – with their income they can’t, even with the EU backhanders.


  34. pugnazious says:

    Another video from the BBC targeted at young voters which asks…

    Will how you vote make you better off?

    It opens with the thought that for Millenials life is especially tough…wages are still lower than they were 10 years ago…hmmm…since 2010 then? Funny how all economic/political history starts in 2010 for the BBC.

    It tells us that the film will show us what the political parties are offering us and how that will effect the money in your pocket.

    But does it do that, does it provide an answer? Well there’s actually no attempt to give an answer, what we get is a history of the past ten years….kicked off by Gordon Brown ‘saving the world’ as it plunged into chaos and crisis caused by US banks…not helped of course by Labour’s risk-based deregulation and reckless spending….er…somehow they forgot to mention that in the film.

    Remember this from Brown in 2007…

    ‘Over the ten years that I have had the privilege of addressing you as Chancellor, I have been able year by year to record how the City of London has risen by your efforts, ingenuity and creativity to become a new world leader….So I congratulate you Lord Mayor and the City of London on these remarkable achievements, an era that history will record as the beginning of a new golden age for the City of London.

    Your international success is critical to that of Britain’s overall and considering together the things that we must do to maintain our competitiveness….enhancing a risk based regulatory approach.’

    and this the year before…

    ‘I believe that we were right not to go down that road which in the United States led to Sarbannes-Oxley, and we were right to build upon our light touch system through the leadership of Sir Callum McCarthy – fair, proportionate, predictable and increasingly risk based.’

    Ah yes, I remember it well…Light-touch, risk-based regulation…leading to a golden age for the City of London.

    Odd the BBC didn’t quote him saying that.

    What we got instead was a run-down of Tory decisions that had ‘disastrous’ consequences and reduced people to poverty…Labour and independent economists said spend more but the Tories cut, cut,cut….it was sold as a virtue but…was disastrous.

    And did you know some people make decisions not based on rational, intelligent reasoning but emotionally….and amazingly, presenter’s eyes wide-open in astonished shock, in a poll in 2017 2/3rds of Leave voters thought significant damage to the economy was a price worth paying….zoom to close up of astounded face.

    Just a very unsubtle attempt to make the Tories appear bad and Labour good. When she asks ‘can we trust politicians’ they flash up pictures of all the leaders with Boris first…but you have to rewind several times to see Corbyn who flashes by almost invisibly…maybe it’s my eyes or too much cynicism…but maybe it’s editing.

    There is no answer as to who will put more money in your pocket…this is, ironically, a video aimed at manipulating your emotions in one direction and nothing to do with actually laying out the facts and figures. A bit of the good old 1984 two-minute hate…of the nasty Tory Party.


    • StewGreen says:

      That video is how I imagine the Radio 4 brainwashed audience
      ..as they hear another diatribe against Trump, against Farage, against Brexit, against “the deniers”
      .. one of the faces even looks like Greta’s


      • Fedup2 says:

        If you need cheering up today have a listen to the LBC segment with Dawn Butler explaining how there are 3000 rough sleepers in her borough – Brent . It’s repeated on the twitter and is about 3 minutes long – or in Dawn butlers case 3000 minutes long .
        That lady could be a minister in the next government and is a great advert for not giving people jobs on the basis of either race or gender . Priceless . And I’m looking forward to her next interview ….


        • The General says:

          Think she said 3000 in Brent alone in 2007 ( not realising that was under Labour) Did not know how many there were in whole country in 2007 ( presumably in excess of 15000 considering her 3000 in Brent at that time) Did not say/know how many currently rough sleeping in Brent or in whole country. The interviewer pointed out statics show in whole country there were 4200 in 2017.
          CONCLUSION : (not expressed) Things got MUCH better under a Conservative Government.


  35. StewGreen says:

    BBC Fact Check screw up
    was it wrong accidentally the first time ?
    .. or was the priority to smear the anti-Labour Man ?

    #1 Everyone knows calling your agenda pushing PR account “Fact Checker” is just PR trickery
    cos there is nothing holy about giving yourself the title “fact checker”
    #2 Cathy Newman suggests the founder of VoteLeave as an independent FactChecker
    #3 3 hours later The Tory Party PR account catches hold of this game
    and as a temporary jibe renames itself FactCheck UK
    #4 The Metroliberals start an outragebus
    ‘HOW DARE YOU ! use the holy title fact checker
    .. you are not a holy divine always right fact checking service like we are ‘

    #5 An anti Labour man in the QT audience has a moan about £80K putting him in punishment tax band with the top 5%
    #6 BBC Reality Check comes to Labour’s rescue
    and tweets THIS MAN IS WRONG, he is not in the top 5% of Earners
    #7 The Labour mob pick up this tool give it 5,000 retweets 11,000 likes and retweet to bash Labour’s opponents
    Bash, bash, bash, bash and more bash .. ‘see the BBC is a Tory bias machine for even airing this man’

    #8 Anti Brexit Lawyer Joylon Maugham points out the BBC have mixed up “earner” with “tax payer” and since 40% of tax payers are non earners like pensioners the guy is actually in the top 5% of earners.
    #9 BBC Reality Check will listen to a fellow metroliberal and so issues a correction tweet in reply to their first
    #10 Basically No one notices the correction it gets 576 likes and 1,700 retweets
    i.e. the vast vast majority of people that tweeted the man was wrong DO NOT tweet the correction that he was right
    #11 The Labourmob just continue on tweeting that the man was wrong ..and cite the original BBC tweet

    #Bottomline is that corrections need to be much more prominent than the original mistake
    ..Secondly it would have been good if they had apologised to the guy.


    • StewGreen says:

      oops lets gets this right
      The guy said at £80K he’s not inside the top 5% of earners
      Their first fact check claimed he’s not in
      cos inflation adjusted you’f have to be earning more than £81K
      Jolyon pointed out the stats excluded earners who don’t pay tax
      so actually since the pool is bigger people who earn more than £80K are well within the top 5%

      I still wonder if the pool of tax “payers” is different as that would include income from property, dividends and pensions etc.


    • The General says:

      So bad for BBC this. So someone earning £80000 is in top 5% of earners in UK. How many BBC Leftie staff earn below £80000 ? Most lesser interviewers / presenters earn double or treble that and many six or seven times. So when they preach to us and condemn the Conservatives for looking out for the wellbeing of the richest ( in terms of earnings) in the country they are in fact referring to themselves.
      Therefore, to avoid any suggestion of hypocrisy would it not be better to cap their salaries at say £50000 so they can really claim they are down there with and truly represent the ‘people’?


  36. Fedup2 says:

    Evidence of left wing bias

    Week in Westminster podcast from Sheffield – so Blunket gets a walk on part spouting pro labour propaganda with no one from the right to rebut or argue . London Beeboids out of their bubble comfort zone spending 30 minutes sneering .

    For well paid journalists very poor fare – complete with the usual socialist nonsense about being ‘ all in it together ‘ regarding the flooding – instead of talking about dredging rivers which upsets the greens .


  37. Celtic_Mist says:

    Hope she has more luck than I have had –
    [Having said that I will be looking at the next BBC complaints bulletin]


  38. tapwatertory says:

    This as appeared on the bbc website in the last hour.


    If you don’t want to read the article I’ll give you the highlights,

    ‘He was filmed reading anti-Jewish Bible passages.’

    “The man was seen in the video threatening a man off-camera after he tried to intervene. A woman in a hijab also confronted him.
    “The Muslim woman… really, really took him to task, very firmly and persistently,” Mr Atkins said.’
    “In this day and age we are told how intolerant everyone is and all religions hate each other and there you had a Muslim woman sticking up for some Jewish children.”

    Note the ‘anti jewish bible passage’ and the hero is a ‘hijab wearing muslim woman.

    [email protected]#K OFF BBC


    • Fedup2 says:

      Being a cynic I can only think the BBC put that incident up was because of the Muslim woman getting involved – as I view those in the state broadcaster as anti Semitic as the Labour Party ( that’s a ‘feeling ‘ as opposed to a ready list of evidence )and certainly anti Christian – I’m sure the troll can have a delightful minute at 3 in the morning cutting and pasting me again ….

      As a matter of theology I suppose the third worlder in a stone Island ( expensive ) track top must have been referring from the New Testament ..? Since the other one was written by er – Jews …


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, actually both collections of Books in the Bible were written by Jews with a faint area of doubt around Luke’s Gospel – he was probably a Greek Jew – and of course, Hebrews, as there is no stated author. However, in that latter case it’s almost certain that it was written by a Jew with a comprehensive knowledge of their history and the Jewish peoples’ and their own personal relationship with God.


      • tapwatertory says:

        Call you a cynic fed?

        They live for stories like this.

        One Christian nut job is more news worthy than anything the religion of the labour party commit on a daily basis.


    • maxincony says:


      Man wanted over anti-Semitic abuse on Northern Line.

      Note the children are described as “Jewish”, the woman is described as “Muslim”, and the perpetrator is described as “a man”.

      Spot the odd one out…


  39. MarkyMark says:

    Monday 8th January 2018: BBC Radio 5 live Breakfast, 3 January 2018

    During a phone-in on the programme a contributor, Danielle Tiplady was introduced as a staff nurse. We should have established and made clear on air that she was a political activist.


  40. tapwatertory says:

    More gems from the bbc.

    Grannies fighting the far right

    Fighting sexism in beatboxing

    People pay for this?

    Anyway me and the little girl are off to the match after a quick pint and a little detour to the bookies, proper Saturday father and daughter day out.

    This is English culture, are you listening bbc? Hello, Hello?


  41. StewGreen says:

    Times mag has this , so BBC will follow


  42. StewGreen says:

    Defence lawyer tried weird mitigation for Italian PhD students who are rapists


    • Fedup2 says:

      Really surprised that they only got 7 and a half years which means they could be out in 3years or less . They’ll also get a cat c prison so they can learn a nice bit of gardening and have days out …
      Should start at 10 years minimum in a real prison .


  43. StewGreen says:

    Times : BBC plans to rapidly create online spin off Radio stations
    Like a 24 hour news channel based on 5 Live
    … jobs for the girls

    .. metroliberal tickbox girls


  44. StewGreen says:

    German Hospital wave of violence
    The Times Today


    • StewGreen says:

      Half the story , all the time ?

      cos PJW had this 18 months ago


      • G.W.F. says:

        Violence from migrants in German hospitals. Perhaps they need to copy our Anychess and spend £40 million each year on Diversity.

        https://www.hrreview.co.uk › hr-news › diversity-news › nhs-wasting-mon…
        10 Apr 2014 – Their key findings were: The NHS employed at least 826 public relations staff at an estimated cost of £34 million. It employed at least 165 equality and diversity staff at a cost of more than £6.8 million. It also employed at least 86 ‘green’ staff costing around £3.5 million.


  45. StewGreen says:

    Qatar sex scandal
    has the BBC mentioned it ?


  46. Doobster78 says:

    Really struggling to see any sort of pattern here ??? Perhaps someone like Lammy , Abbott or Khan could take a look, see if they can help ???


  47. StewGreen says:

    Free sppech Oxford Union
    Former beeboid now college master Mark Damazer wades in with a Times column
    “Most union preseidents like enliven their tenure with a dollop of free speech controversy. Up will pop Le Pe, Bannon, Katie Hopkins”
    .. the desire to makewaves is a bit laboured”

    … what a F .. Idiot


  48. Celtic_Mist says:


  49. Thoughtful says:

    The BBC really does have some strange ideas:


    A man is being sought by police for directing “horrific” anti-Semitic abuse towards Jewish children on the London Underground.

    He was filmed reading anti-Jewish Bible passages to two boys in skullcaps travelling with family on the Northern Line at about midday on Friday.

    I don’t know what qualifies as a child these days, but a man with a beard is not a child in my book !


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