Start the Week Open Thread 18 November 2019

Week two of the the biased Far left BBC campaign to get their Labour Party elected . More coverage of Tories being barracked, socialists being given an easy ride and stories of the constantly growing labour money tree. But there won’t be much by way of election fraud . Enjoy .

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278 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 18 November 2019

  1. Guest Who says:

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/impartial-bbc-is-flexible-with-the-facts-in-lgbt-guide/?

    Beyond liking ‘flexible with the facts’ as another version of ‘BBC editorial integrity’, I also note they are still coming up with BBC weasels to infer they are the sole source of truth in politics:

    “As part of its General Election coverage, the BBC is running a ‘what to look out for’ series.”

    Translation: what matters to the BBC.

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  2. Thoughtful says:

    Radio 4 PM kicks off the news bias this evening

    The most important political speech of the day was made by John McDonald, about stealing the wealth of White British billionaires.

    Then it’s off to interview some idiotic Labour supporting billionaire who says he’s quite happy to lose everything he has worked for in tax.

    There’s no criticism from the BBC just several supporting plaudits

    Then it’s an attack the US for recognising Israeli settlements in the occupied territories and Jeremy Bowen leading with the hate.

    Then it’s a piece on social media and it’s all about remain, and a meme which they admit couldn’t be shared on the BBC because it’s so pro Labour anti Brexit. Ten problems with Boris’s withdrawal agreement.

    Then the NHS is in crisis because drugs aren’t available.

    Then a round up – start with the Greens
    A part with a Tory from Kent who wanted to put criminal anti social families in tents in the middle of fields, another one about a candidate in Scotland suspended for alleged homophobik Islamofauxbik remarks and another one attacking the Bexit party !

    So nothing Good about any party other than Labour & the Greens !

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  3. Beltane says:

    Back in 2010, when Nick Clegg made such an impact in the televised political debate with Cameron and Brown, his performance could be said to have permanently changed the political scene. From the weakness of the resulting coalition, the threat of UKIP and the public’s deep unease with the EU, the referendum was a near direct result – all influenced and affected by Clegg’s ability to say the right things at the right time and con people into believing that at last they were privileged to see a true statesman at his craft.
    Tonight, if Boris blusters about Brexit and microwaves, rubs his head and plays the bumbling but semi-sincere PM, and Jeremy maintains his calm, measured, quiet assurance – every bit as false and ephemeral as Clegg’s political acumen – we could, as Frank Spencer would have said, be in a ‘bit of trouble Betty’.
    At least it’s on ITV, but that’s not as reliable as it once was.

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  4. StewGreen says:

    Now : Our local Climate warrior enviro reporter
    is in a helicopter marked “BBC News”
    filming the flooded farmland.

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  5. Doobster78 says:

    Unbiased BBC “fact checking” again !!! Oh look, the Tories are liars !!! Relentless !!!

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    • StewGreen says:

      “Our verdict: it’s impossible to reach an *accurate* price tag”
      STRAWMAN fallacy
      ..Tories didn’t say jt was accurate
      Their claim is that the figure is in the ballpark.

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  6. AndyDozefeet says:

    Anyone else think that Caroline Lucas looks like Mr Spock?

    Might explain why she talks like she’s from another planet.

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    • JimS says:

      It is well established that Caroline is a pixie and that she used to travel from Brighton to Westminster on her pet unicorn called ‘Stardust’.

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    • StewGreen says:

      “A seven-year-old girl has written a letter to Father Christmas asking for a home and food for her family”

      emm doesn’t them publishing it break Data Protection laws ?
      They have taken a private correspondence, which will be identifyable to a child’s teacher and relatives
      ..and published it.

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      • StewGreen says:

        “child 7” What’s the proof ?
        Couldn’t it have been written by a *Labour Party PR adult* ?
        Doesn’t it break Data Protection laws to publish a private letter ?
        Someone might identify the handwriting

        The story has been leapt on by dozens of accounts shouting “Cruel Tory Austerity”
        … The Tories aren’t a thrifty party, and tgey are handicapped by having to deal with past Labour spending.

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        • G.W.F. says:

          Humbug!

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        • Thoughtful says:

          Of course they fail to say that the reason the family is homeless is the scale of immigration from the EU and outside taking all available housing in towns where unemployment is already high.

          The left appears to believe that migrants and refugees are like angels who never do anything wrong, never have bad beliefs or culture, never consume anything, never get ill etc etc.

          The rest of us who know this isn’t true have to stay quiet or the fantasy will be ruined, and upset lefties always emit their meaningless bully words which always end in ‘ism’ or ‘fauxbia’.

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        • G says:

          SG,
          Well, certainly not from a muslim mentioning “christmas”.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Does the very very very Tory BBC load every prog with Tory voice after Tory voice, pro Brexit voice after pro Brexit voice, Pro Trunp voice after Pro Trump voice ?
    Yes of course it does.
    Coming up: 0740 Alastair Campbell on meeting Jeffrey Epstein,
    0840 Rohan Silva on Prince Andrew’s alleged use of the N-word,
    0750 Hong Kong latest,
    0709 (right now!) Robert Buckland for the Tories,
    0730 Jonathan Bartley for the Greens
    & 0810 John McDonnell for Labour

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  8. Despairada says:

    It’s Planet Rock Radio for me for the next two hours at least.

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  9. taffman says:

    \\General Election 2019: Greens pledge zero carbon by 2030 in manifesto
    The party says it would invest £100bn a year by 2030 as part of a “green new deal” to tackle climate change – to be mainly paid for by borrowing.//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50467790
    Borrowing £100bn !
    Are these people real ?
    Why is the UK responsible, as its the major industrial countries of the world that need to cough up.

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    • StewGreen says:

      It’s fitting that
      .. Corbyn has a magic-money-TREE
      ………… the Green-Party have a magic-money-FOREST

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      • StewGreen says:

        Have you got your Green-Party rationing book yet ?
        You will be allowed one flight per decade.
        But the higher-green-comrades will be rewarded with no such restrictions

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  10. taffman says:

    Are they back tracking on their ‘anti-forces’ campaign ?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-50225045

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  11. taffman says:

    “Stowaways found in refrigerated container bound for UK”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50480242
    The only reason they continue to come is because they know that if they get in they will never be deported.
    How many fugitive criminals, spies and terrorists have got in already ?

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  12. Thoughtful says:

    A thoughts are troubling me about the Epstein affair now. Although I do believe ‘randy Andy’ has questions to answer, the accusers accounts are piling up, yet do not add up.

    Jane Doe said during the flight that Epstein also gave her a tour of his plane and showed her the bedroom.
    ‘He told me to get down and feel the carpeted floors of the room. He then asked if I noticed anything special about the floor,’ the woman said.

    ‘I responded that it felt very soft. He laughed and said was because the floors in the bedroom were foam mattress floors because he liked to have girls sleep around him on the floor while he slept in the bed.’

    ‘Epstein’s description of the women sleeping around him on the floor made her immediately think of slaves,’ the lawsuit said.
    The complaint went on to say that ‘Jane Doe 15 found her interactions with Epstein on the plane strange’

    Never mind her finding it strange, I found her claims very strange because if there is one thing I know about aircraft it’s that the FAA/CAA are very very strict about what you can put into them an mattresses on the floor are a complete no no.

    So I thought that Google being what it is must have photos of Epsteins Jet and of course they do. It’s an old Boeing 727 with a dated interior which doesn’t appear to have seen an update in a good few years.

    Here’s the bedroom

    screenhunter%202845.jpg

    And here is the site it’s taken from with many more images:

    https://www.private-jet-fan.com/jeffrey-epstein_jet.html

    But the other question raised is this. Why is Prince Andrew being singled out by the media when Bill Clinton spent far more time in the company of Epstein ?

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Thoughtful – Your question actually contains the answer.
      Much about this tale is about our self-righteous, virtue-signalling media – we already know all about Prince Andrew and can imagine the worst. Selling papers is now led by ‘get Andrew’.
      Bill’s a Democrat, and at this stage, the media are after Trump! Selling papers (They think) is about ‘get Trump’.
      (Then there are the natural Trump-haters like the CNN, BBC. NYT, WP etc, who can do nothing else but hate).

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Watched both the BBC Newsnight & Channel 4 Prince Andrew ‘specials’.
      True to form the one clip of Trump speaking to Epstein was used numerous times in both programmes, while only the C4 one had a brief glimpse of a photograph of Clinton with Epstein.

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  13. taffman says:

    “Election debate: Johnson and Corbyn clash over Brexit”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50472452
    What exactly does Boris mean by “Get Brexit Done”?

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  14. Fedup2 says:

    Having seen the waste of time that was the Johnson Corbyn nonsense the thing the BBC will note is that the presence of a gormless audience seriously affects perception and the conduct of the ‘ debate’

    The Corbyn lot were noisier than the Johnson lot and the compere failed to control it .

    Nick Robinson is doing the BBC version so we know how that will Go. I’ll watch out of duty but I think these shows yield little for anyone .

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  15. davylars says:

    Just suffered debate on ITV

    Jeremy Kaa- rbyn

    [url=https://postimg.cc/8jmVV6Wc]C9-AB861-D-893-D-4-B05-AB1-B-A4-B684-EA68-C8.jpg[/url]

    Boris.. get brexit done..Johnson

    Sums it up. Another hour of my life I won’t get back..

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  16. Thoughtful says:

    It really does show the shambles the Tory party and their leader are when they can only manage a 2 point victory over someone as bad as Corbyn.

    This is a man whose own party officials are jumping ship like rats, and it’s because of the politics of the leader.

    The Tories are by no means winning in the polls, it’s Labour who are losing, and if when Labour rid themselves of Corbyn & McDonnell they haven’t massively upped their game, they will likely be out of power for another couple of decades.

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    • taffman says:

      Thoughtful
      The only answer to this fiasco is to vote for The Brexit Party .
      IMHO, Parliament is full of puppets. Puppets that are all controlled by the EU Parliament who pull the strings .
      Anyone who cannot see this is politically blind or deluded.
      Over three and a half years have passed since we all voted to get out of the EU but our very own Parliament has procrastinated and delayed to keep us in despite their claims to ‘respect the wishes of the people’ .
      Why do you all think that Al Beeb and OfCom have not been addressed by the Tory Party for its blatant bias ?
      Its bloody obvious!

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  17. Guest Who says:

    The BBC has, by some miracle, discovered yet another source of criticism of…

    “The Conservative Party has been criticised for the “inappropriate and misleading” rebranding of its press office Twitter account during the first UK election debate.”

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  18. Guest Who says:

    I think I will take my bed upon this little exchange.

    We all lose with who is served up. But the media loses more by thinking they are anything more than waiters who deserve no tip for how it gets served.

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  19. Guest Who says:

    Wonder if Samira will be out of court in time to field this one?

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  20. StewGreen says:

    The BBC POLITICAL PARTY
    … branded its Public Relations account as factchecker “BBC Reality Check”

    and now they are jealous that the Tory Political Party PR office have copied that idea !
    … TRIGGERED

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  21. StewGreen says:

    The BBC is “shilling for Shell” … and Green-lovers are up in arms ?

    No the BBC is “shilling for the BIG GREEN HEDGE-FUNDS” …and Green-lovers say nothing
    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/11/19/delingpole-green-blob-bungs-bbc-environment-reporter-100k-prize/

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  22. StewGreen says:

    Germany : Fascist org labels Israelis as Jews
    and sends mob to intimidate hotel into banning conference

    Actually it was ANTIFA that labelled Climate Skeptics as DENIERS
    and sent mob to intimidate hotel into banning their international conference
    and the hotel group caved.
    Then the court said
    ‘Well you see the hotel is allowed to cancel at the last moment cos there are security concerns.’
    … Yeh that’s right screw all the skeptics hotel bookings and flights !

    … Thankfully the skeptics have now found a new secret venue

    https://notrickszone.com/2019/11/19/radicals-bully-nh-munich-conference-center-force-cancellation-of-13th-skeptic-climate-conference/

    (In parallel news it was recently revealed that the new owner of 2 Berlin newspapers Holger Friedrich was a very active Stasi agent 30 years ago.
    The IT multimillionaire who bought the Berliner Zeitung and the Berliner Kurier, is said to have filed a dozen “incriminating” reports to the notorious East German secret police during his military service between 1987 and 1989. )

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  23. StewGreen says:

    Climate : Conspiracy Theory WITH evidence
    US news media have a collusion programme to hype the forthcoming Madrid Climate conference
    https://dailycaller.com/2019/11/18/greta-thunberg-climate-change-media/

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  24. Celtic_Mist says:

    Quite a shocking case given that –

    “The Met officer, who was highly commended for her work helping families affected by the Grenfell Tower disaster, told the court she had “zoned out” when she received it ” [she didn’t say the exact words]

    Trial begins – England
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50374967

    Found Guilty – London
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-50476166

    Was she trying to protect her sister?

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  25. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  26. Celtic_Mist says:

    One of the ‘less prominent’ BBC stories –

    “Why is Nord Stream 2 so controversial?
    For years EU member states have been concerned about the bloc’s reliance on Russian gas.

    Russia currently supplies about 40% of the EU’s gas supplies – just ahead of Norway, which is not in the EU but takes part in its single market. The new pipeline will increase the amount of gas going under the Baltic to 55 billion cubic metres per year.

    Disagreements among EU nations were so strong that, earlier this year, they even threatened to derail the project entirely.”

    “US President Donald Trump has said the pipeline, owned by Russia’s Gazprom, could turn Germany into a “hostage of Russia”.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-50247793

    Worth reading this to see what the BBC left out –

    https://www.rferl.org/a/clock-ticking-in-congress-as-russia-presses-ahead-with-nord-stream-2-gas-pipeline/30278828.html

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  27. Deborah says:

    Lazy BBC. I read on both the DM and BBC websites about the black blind student Ebenezer Azamati being removed from the Oxford Union. But I wanted to know WHY. Googling results in virtually all sites using the same words. Obviously a cut and paste job from a press release. Now the President of the Union has resigned along with the press officer, the Secretary and several others. Mr Azabati was using a QC for his defence at an Appeal. There is obviously more to the story than we are being told. Does anyone know why Mr Azabati was being removed? Or should I just learn that being black and blind gives you entitlement to do anything?

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