Start the Week Thread 11 November 2019

over to you – on Armistice Day .

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  1. Nibor says:

    BBC editors and presenters ,

    Learn the difference between fascists/ far right and populists and libertarians .

    Go to the AFD website which is in English and German , read and learn and stop frightening yourselves and your listeners and viewers .

    Read that exhaustive book ; The Rise and Fall of the Third Reich by William Shirer . Go particularly to Life in the Third Reich section and read especially the Economics chapter and you’ll see that the EU is closer to fascism than the AFD ever will be .
    Stop being childish BBC and start being impartial .

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  2. Cassandra says:

    Posted this late last night, I still think it makes interesting reading:

    Howls of laughter emanating from Casa Cassie. BBC Midlands Today came on at 6.00 this evening. A serious white male presenter in the studio started a report on the Remembrance Sunday Service in Birmingham attended by military veterans and Armed Forces representatives. A reporter found one soldier to interview, he was of west Indian origin. There were thousands of people who lined the streets to pay their respects. The reporter started to recite the expected mantra that Birmingham was a multicultural city.
    Now bearing in mind what the reporter said in the report it was interesting to observe that apart from the soldier’s wife and two children there was not a brown face or burkha clad Brummie to be seen. The crowd was 99% white. Here is the report:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000bbgd/midlands-today-late-news-10112019

    What made me laugh even louder was the way the reporter explained that the (German) Frankfurt Market had closed for the service. As Basil Fawlty would say, “Don’t mention the war!”.

    BBC Midlands today did run a story last year about a Pakistani Muslim taxi driver and his view of transporting poppies (Remembrance Sunday poppies, not the sort he would return with from his holidays) but the BBC for some reason omitted the words ‘Pakistani’ and ‘Muslim’ from that report.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-46078099

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    • tarien says:

      How very sad Cassamdra that, such a situation has come to pass. Wonderful rememberance service yesterday, and a very moving Amistace Day service held at the Alrewas Memorial Aboretum in Staffordshire today-, everyone stood silent for those two minutes-that is all that is asked of the people to stand still and reflect as to how fortunate they are, just for 2 minutes for goodness sake, but still we saw where people were moving about, looking here and there, obviously of no understanding or appreciation -I was born early part of WW2 and of course recall how I and all the pupils in my school would stand at 11.am in respect, and therein after as an adult, in the office or wherever I was travelling and if in a car I stopped and got out as did so many others and if wearing a hat I took it off. This nation through the destroyng elements of the European Union in its efforts over the past 45 yrs to take away the sovereignty of each country, so disembling the culture and pride of each nation. I am not fully convinced that Britain will ever again reinstate its pride of being who it is-the political propaganda of multiculturalism has woven its way into our society. Anyway for me as the song says -‘There’ll always be an England,
      And England shall be free
      If England means as much to you
      As England means to me.

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    • Nodding Dog says:

      I wonder if the West Indian gentleman was the same one they interviewed a couple of weeks ago when they did a report about the launch of this years poppy appeal.First part was about Muslims who’d fought in the war for the Allies then they spoke to a West Indian chap.I’m not belittling their contribution and I take my hat off to them and thank them for their service my beef is with the Beeb and their obsession with all things non white.

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  3. JamesArthur says:

    This is the closest I have ever been..to first
    BBC this morning at Stafford Arboretum and who did they have to interview about what Armistice day means to current soldiers – a muslim soldier – a nice chap – but one has to wonder why given the relatively few muslims in the army….we all know why on the BBC…

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      James — I wonder if they’ve got the same bloke on repeat because I’ve heard a muslim soldier give his account twice on R5 in the last day.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      “one has to wonder why given the relatively few muslims in the army…”:
      Or as the BBC would spin it:
      ‘Half of all Muslim soldiers in the British Army speak out positively about Armistice Day’

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  4. Roland Deschain says:

    She missed a few payments – not realising that it could affect her credit score

    How typically BBC, indulging the snowflake in the idea that she’s entitled to what she wants, regardless of her own actions. That it’s always someone else’s fault.

    #CCBGB

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    • Deborah says:

      Roland, you missed out that the young lady was a student, talking about buying her first house (not flat), has a car and obviously from her photo spends a lot on hair and makeup. But if she hadn’t used Klarna to buy things, she would have put them on her credit card. I wonder how snow flakes will manage if Corbyn gets in and the money tree runs dry.

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      • G says:

        Deb,
        “….the money tree runs dry.” Aka, the note in the Treasury last time round that read, “There’s no money left”.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Deborah, “and obviously from her photo spends a lot on hair and makeup” as well as photo-processing & manipulation software for her mobile phone or computer.

        Is it just me or do others find that ‘look’ scary and slightly sinister?

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      • tarien says:

        T Blairs Government left the money cupboard bare-yet people still vote Labour! Very short memories-Just amazing.

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    • Nibor says:

      And this is the sort of person the remainers say should have priority about voting .
      Next its You Have Stolen My Childhood .

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Nibor – leave her alone – her inability to possess financial self discipline is the basis of our wonderful capitalism . The worst thing is when they get bailed out as opposed to having to deal and learn from their greed/ dumb mistakes .

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      • Scroblene says:

        Or someone the same size, Bercow, would say ‘You have stolen my knighthood’…

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  5. AnneG says:

    Being a rather curious person i visited the TV viewing figure site BARB. Most of their figures are only available to subscribers however the last nearly two years are free,
    For the last week of October Strictly Come Dancing is down 7% to 10.54 million, from 11.29 million.
    Eastenders is down 16% from 5.81 million in 2018 to 5.04 million in 2019. Oh dear, at this rate there will be no one watching that programme soon.
    Strangely, on BBC2 the two top programmes, University Challenge and Only Connect are stable at 2.4 million over the two years.
    Far be it from me to suggest that the small number of viewers who enjoy using their brain, will soon outnumber those who watch rubbish.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Anne
      I think as viewing figures fall the state broadcaster will change the measure of its success – more likely to value the percentage of non whites on their programmes .

      I wonder if pay is related to viewer numbers ? If so the wages bill will be reducing as well – leading to the TV licence becoming cheaper for those who still pay it .

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  6. Guest Who says:

    So, the BBC’s roving NY reporter heads anywhere but NY and finds… the new JonDon. I wonder if she has her own canoe to paddle to out of bounds islands?

    Gallant of him to nudge the BBC’s latest expat Sheila in the ‘correct’ journalistic direction before she touches down.

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    • Guest Who says:

      ‘RTs not endorsements’

      Clever girl.

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      • theisland says:

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      • StewGreen says:

        Sydney facing ‘catastrophic’ bushfire threat
        … hyperbolic dram-queening language
        Sydney as a city will survive
        I wouldn’t rule out a few houses in a remote suburb having their own catastrophic fires

        There was 5cm of rain in some parts of NSW on Nov 5th
        The Chinese would seed the clouds to halt fires.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Love the image of the old V12 Jag. That’ll teach ’em.

        It’s all change in the LibMob editorial world, if staying as always diverse.

        “The Guardian has appointed Arifa Akbar to the role of chief theatre critic, effective from January. Arifa has written about the arts for The Guardian for several years and has contributed to The Observer. Arifa was the literary editor of The Independent, where she also worked as a news reporter and arts correspondent.”

        Saw a tweet over the weekend mocking them getting a female SJW to ‘critique’ the new movie ‘Midway’; seems she was upset by all the men and loud noises. ‘Tora, Tora, Tora!’ likely more her speed as their were nurses on land… and the Yanks came off worse.

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  7. Ian Rushlow says:

    The wrong sort of CO2… The BBC are continuing their campaign against air travel (air travel for ordinary people, that is – the rich & famous, UN/EU officials and BBC reporters will presumably be exempt). This time they are concerned that BA are carrying extra fuel on some of their European flights – a procedure known as ‘fuel tankering’. This is apparently to take advantage of differential pricing for aviation fuel across Europe and thereby save money. The BBC is outraged that this extra fuel is generating additional greenhouse gases, equivalent to ‘that produced by a town of 100,000 people’. As opposed to migration: presumably the extra 300,000 people being added to the UK’s population each year do not generate any CO2 whatsover. Nor do they use water, generate sewage, produce waste, require food, use energy or a myriad of other things with real and significant environmental impact.

    Fuel tankering is a real thing, but is used very sparingly as it doesn’t necessarily save money. A major consideration in flying is weight: the heavier the plane, the more fuel it consumes. This is why the aircraft industry has made so much effort to reduce the weight of planes, as less weight needs less fuel and that equates to lower costs and more profit. You really don’t want to be taking any more fuel onboard than you have to.

    There are other factors. Europe’s skies and airports are very congested. To minimise costs and avoid delays, airlines (especially budget airlines) need to turn round their planes in as short a time as possible, ideally within 30-45 minutes if possible. Clearly refuelling a plane makes this difficult to impossible.

    Note to BBC editors: you may be unfamiliar with the term ‘budget airline’. This refers to low-cost airflight and is the thing that helps enable you have access to affordable cleaners and nannies from Eastern Europe.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-50365362

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    • Guest Who says:

      Speaking of the bbc playing down what doesn’t suit, they do not appear as keen on La Lucas’ coy admission to a deferential Andrew Marr.

      Maybe she was over there persuading Emma to visit again?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ian I fly using BA a lot and I’m a shareholder. I’ll wait for the day when the pilot comes on and saying “ sorry we’ve run out of fuel but you’ll die knowing we’ve used reduced CO2 consumption ….”
      Me ? I’m consciously using more CO2 to make up for this insane nonsense .

      I saw the Marr piece with the green woman shocking the world by admitting she has a son – who lives in America – and who she flys out to see . I’d love to know how many miles she clocks up since she’s so concerned about nonsense planet warming .

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Ian, I think it (the ‘tankering’) is down to fast turnarounds on short haul flights. It saves on the time to have a fuel bowser visit the craft.

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  8. Cassandra says:

    The BBC loves it’s heroes and heroines, providing they tick the ‘Special Boxes’. Take these two for example:

    The Labour Party has found a replacement in Ibrahim Dogus to stand in Tom Watson’s constituency of West Bromwich East, a constituency which voted to leave the EU by 68%. Mr Dogus owns three restaurants in London so it’s fair to say he has been parachuted in over the heads of local applicants for the job.
    Not only that but Dogus found fame by printing a message on his restaurant receipts which had an anti-Brexit message on them which read, “Brexit is bad! Immigrants make Britain great! They also cooked and served your food today.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-50360102

    Lewis Bailey is another hero/heroine, Arthur/Martha that the BBC is keen to promote for the sake of diversity, so much so that it has made a special programme about his tribulations. My Great Uncle was the not much older this boy in 1915 when he applied to join up.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-50320746

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Cassandra
      And as for cocaine Vaz – there’s a nice picture of someone taking down his billboard from the Labour Party office in Leicester East in the middle of last night . I wonder if Vaz had ever been there ?
      He ll surface as a ‘victim ‘ in a while ….

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  9. Fedup2 says:

    Heartbreak for the State Broadcaster

    Spanish nationalist party VOX got 52 out of 350 seats in the Parliament . It doubled its number since the last time . It’s now the third biggest party . VOX has a thing about keeping Spain Spanish – the EU won’t like that .

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    • tarien says:

      Sod the EU, good for them-believe me they( Spain) still will want us Brits to visit on holiday and other, be quite sure about that, there will be a welcome on the mat!!

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  10. Square-Eyed says:

    Point of clarification

    We know that the Labour Party’s current policy on Brexit is to get a “better deal” and then put it to the electorate as one option in a referendum. Has any Labour spokesman informed us at any time, or even been asked by the uninterested media, what a better deal looks like? Is it meant to please Gina Miller or Nigel Farage? I think we should be told.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      As far as I can see, Labour’s “better deal” is along the lines of:

      Stay in the Single market;

      Have a Customs Union;

      Remain under the jurisdiction of the ECJ;

      Keep freedom of movement.

      I somehow think that the EU will be able to live with a “better deal” like that, especially if they get to decide how much we will pay for it!

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      • Jagman84 says:

        It’s difficult to decide which party is most in the pay of big business these days. Whilst claiming to support the good, hard-working tax payers, of course.

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  11. Ed Hitter says:

    You can always rely on the BBC to accentuate the negative.
    The UK’s GDP grew in the last quarter after a previous dip. So, no recession despite all the doom-mongering.
    This is the angle that many news outlets are using today. Our economy is performing better than Germany’s.
    But the dear old, biased BBC chooses as its website header: “UK growth slowest in almost a decade, says ONS”.

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    • digg says:

      Yes Ed, I read that piece of BBC jiggery pokery too. The bit that stood out for me was the comment by their economic editor Faisal Islam,,

      “The background is a slower European and world economy reeling from trade wars.
      But years of damaged business investment, after the Brexit referendum, are taking their toll on growth.”

      No proof, no backup, no case studies, no figures, just spin opinion designed to spread brexit fear in any way possible.

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    • Deborah says:

      Classic FM reported ‘Britain has narrowly avoided recession’. Now I thought that recession meant 2 quarters of negative growth – so if the last quarter was +ve, doesn’t that mean we need 2 more quarters before we can possibly be in recession? I am happy to be corrected.

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  12. Ian Rushlow says:

    Worth remembering that on this day in 1965, Rhodesia made its declaration of UDI (Unilateral Declaration of Independence) to obtain freedom from Britain. Perhaps it is time for us to make a UDI from the European Union, with the aim of finally establishing majority rule in this country.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Ian, I remember that.

      I was in a school class. The teacher, informed by a message from the school office of the declaration, stopped the lesson to tell us all what UDI meant, why Ian Smith had taken that action and what it might mean politically, as well as the other implications for Rhodesia and the UK.

      I don’t think kids get an education like that in UK State schools these days.

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      • Oldspeaker says:

        Sadly only in partial jest, I imagine one of the brighter kids would have to walk the teacher through an explanation these days.

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  13. Up2snuff says:

    NON-TOADY Watch #1 – FOMO

    I did not bother listening to the TOADY Prog this morning. Was I struck by a Fear Of Missing Out?

    Just a twinge. Livable with.

    BBC’s loss – my gain.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2 – me neither -but I understand lady Nugee joined the ‘ fried ‘ club of senior labour frontbenchers trying to explain their Brexit policy .

      I don’t know if she attained the level of Kier Starmer last week but it looked close .

      She then repeated this act on the Piers Morgan show which had twitter clips .

      4 long weeks to the damned election

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  14. Guest Who says:

    When Nick Met Sally.

    I’d give the win bar scene a miss. Andrew Marr may be in it.

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    • Sluff says:

      I presume that is the Mary Beard who is the BBC go-to grey- haired trendy academic.
      Funny how so many of the BBC’s favourites are, ahem, of a certain common political persuasion.
      And the irony that they can only speak freely because others gave their lives in wars is lost on the spineless turds. Sorry for the language but its what they are, living off the backs of the sacrifices of others, three of whom were in my family.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Indeed, this Mary Beard. The one who said:
        “If I were a member of the Labour Party, I would vote for Corbyn. He actually seems to have some ideological commitment, which could get the Labour Party to think about what it actually stands for.” (she endorsed his leadership campaign in July 2015)
        The one who notoriously dismissed the fears of ordinary people living in Boston over the changes brought to their town by hyper-migration (on Question Time, January 2013).
        Who, speaking about the 9/11 attacks, offered the opinion that “the United States had it coming”, and that “world bullies, even if their heart is in the right place, will in the end pay the price” (London Review of Books, October 2001)
        Who said “I actually can’t understand what it would be to be a woman without being a feminist” (interview in The Cambridge Student, 2013).
        Who generated controversy by responded to reports of Oxfam employees engaging in sexual exploitation in disaster zones by tweeting “Of course one can’t condone the (alleged) behaviour of Oxfam staff in Haiti and elsewhere. But I do wonder how hard it must be to sustain ‘civilised’ values in a disaster zone.” She subsequently posted a photo of herself crying her ‘White feminist tears’. (https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/mary-beard-tweet-oxfam-aid-workers-sex-scandal-backlash-feminists-cambridge-priyamvada-gopal-latest-a8216306.html).

        Yep, you can see why she’s on BBC speed-dial.

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  15. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile, OT, but here is Sky using bbc ‘quotes’.

    #CCBGB

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  16. Sluff says:

    Classic tactic on the BBC webshite.
    Front page story, ‘India’s Verma breaks Tendulkar record’.
    Wow, methinks. Tendulkar was an all time cricketing great, so what has this Verma done ? Must be pretty spectacular.
    So we read on….
    The record in question is the youngest age to score a 50 in an international match. OK maybe not quite as impressive as we were led to believe, but still good. Oh, and it was in a 20 20 slogfest. But still OK.
    Only in the second paragraph do we discover that Verma is a girl and we are talking about women’s cricket.
    Yep the BBC are deliberately positioning a 15 year old girl on a par with one if the true greats.
    That’s equality in bBBC la la land.
    Pass the razor blades.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning emole…

    What jobs do UK workers actually do?

    When politicians want to appeal to working people, they tend to don hard hats and head to factories or construction sites. These workplaces may look good in pictures, but they do not chime with most people’s experience of work.

    Fewer than one in 10 people work in manufacturing, and even fewer in construction. In contrast, more than four out of five people work in service industries.

    If featured on the BBC they seem mostly trans awareness coordinators of coffee color for primary schools.

    And they are not actually ‘working’.

    A bit like around 20,000 staff at the national disgrace.

    They could always show more images of delicious young men delivery oddly dusty Hotpoints to Westminster flats at night.

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  18. Up2snuff says:

    NON-TOADY Watch NON-LISTEN #1.6975

    I wonder whether any comment was made on this morning’s programme about the former Speaker of the House of Commons appearance in one of the Sunday papers. Cannot now remember which one. Apparently Bercow has opined on his former Party leader.

    “Cameron thinks he is born to rule” the Bercow ‘taster’ stated.

    Funny, you would think the former Speaker of the House would be up on our political happenings and would know that Cameron caved years ago when the going got tough.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Snuff – Bit of a Freudian slip there, revealing especially ENVY: it is Bercow who thinks He was born to rule, and had a very good go at trying, when -as Speaker- he went way beyond his brief and exercised powers he didn’t actually have!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Bercow – just cannot be well. He obviously has withdrawal symptoms from not having a 100 or so MPs to bully so is in rant mood to anyone who will pay him .

        I suppose he thinks he must make a noise To make money whilst he still has public attention hopefull the Tory /brexit party pact to day will eliminate any hope of the traitor partys stealing power .

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  19. Guest Who says:

    🙂

    It’s OK, Rob’s been deployed.

    If any senior staff go the Andrew Marr route of being pissed and horny…because working hard… extra points.

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    • StewGreen says:

      OK Labour PR activists are making the most of it
      but was the entire newsclip … actually less then thirty seconds ?
      .. That is hardly massive promo for Boris

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  20. Guest Who says:

    Emma sets them up and….

    …outta the park!

    That said, #CCBGB

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  21. Guest Who says:

    Get in.

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  22. Jeff says:

    I had a lovely telly free day yesterday. I was at The Cenotaph and Westminster Abbey most of the day and thoroughly immersed myself in this very moving occasion. It seems to be the one day of the year when you can actually be proud of being a patriot. Anyway…
    One thing I would like to add. I know we all crticise the “snowflake” generation for being pathetic whingers, etc. And often they are…
    However, I was on the tube, slowly clanking up to Victoria, when a gaggle of army cadets got on. Some boys, some girls, some white, some black, none of them older than about fifteen, I should say. All of them wearing poppies, all of them very respectful towards some of the veterans travelling up with them. It was quite touching and it was as it should be.
    We do seem to see an awful lot of the BBCs preferred youngsters on our TV screens. They love to show us the children of the well heeled, permanently griping middle class lefties…their children! Those pain in the arse Extinction Rebellion pillocks chaining themselves to railings and all those sobbing Remainers. Both groups telling us that we’ve stolen their futures.
    Yesterday’s experience was refreshing. There’s some really decent young people about as I discovered on the tube on Sunday morning.
    And when their commanding officer told them to look out for anyone old or vulnerable that might need assistance…
    One of them even offered me her seat
    Cheeky young bleeder!

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Jeff
      Agree, I was at a ceremony in Cambridge and there was a hoard of young cadets/soldiers lads girls black white..all laughing as youngsters do but when it came to the ceremony all on form.
      Unfortunately on the BBC and MSM we usually only hear the voices of the left Liberals who shout about their rights and victimisation and avoid their responsibilities..
      Yes there are a lot of good sensible youngsters….lest we forget

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Well said Jeff. Very refreshing to hear that traditional values and attitudes towards the old still flourish even if the foul BBC doesn’t report them.

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    • theisland says:

      Lovely glimmers of hope

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  23. vlad says:

    More enrichment.

    Perhaps she misread the disability sign.

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    • pertelote says:

      ..can you imagine what would have happened if a white male had done the same thing?

      any complaints against this “lady”?…nah..you’d just be pissing in the wind!

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    • The General says:

      Showing that buses are provided as a convenience for their passengers.

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  24. theisland says:

    TBP Press Conference – they will concentrate on Labour seats and ‘remainer party’ seats but not contest the 317 seats the Conservatives won at the last election. Described by NF as a ‘unilateral Leave alliance’.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      I think that makes sense – let’s hope it leads to a good result for us ignornant Brexiteers

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      • smoogie7 says:

        A big kick in the teeth for the BBC and the left as they had hopes that the leave vote would be split and let Corbyn in.

        I actually know of some Labour leavers who where gloating about TBP standing in Tory seats thinking that it would help them out. These people voted leave but they are not Brexiteers and they do not care much for Brexit. To them it is Corbyn first and now that TBP are focusing on Labour areas that has wiped the smirks off their faces very quickly!

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  25. Terminal Moraine says:

    I only flicked on R5 briefly yesterday:

    Day time — Armistice day interview with a soldier. 30 secs of preamble, then “as a muslim fighting in the British forces it’s important to show muslims serving…”

    Night time — Dotun Adebayo had a US correspondent on to talk about Veteran’s Day. 30 secs of preamble, then talking about a centre for veterans who served in the US military but, as immigrants, face deportation. Because Trump.

    Coming soon (probably) — were WW1 rations of Bully Beef evidence of institutional abuse in the allied forces?

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    • Banania says:

      “…it’s important to show muslims serving…”
      Especially because there were more “British” moslems fighting on the other side.

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  26. Halifax says:

    Wow the Brexit party will not contest any seats won by Tories…..so they are viable alternative to Labour. Just awaiting the Labour partys open doors migration policy and whaaaaam……as I have said before (dont laugh) Labour will win less than a 100 seats….how do I put a bet on that ????

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    • Halifax says:

      Just read the HYS on the Guardian home page regarding Nigels statement…………My Pot Noodle never tasted so good……

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Halifax – I put a couple of quid on John mcdonnell being the next PM yesterday because I was that worried .

        There can’t be a better day to hear the next about the brexit pact .

        Definitely a good day – but a bad one for Corbyn/sweater/BBC

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      • johndba says:

        Cannot wait for Bbc meltdown

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        • Guest Who says:

          How would anyone notice?

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        • Doublethinker says:

          There has already been some comments which indicate just how deranged the typical Remainer has become. The best of them is from Richards , a former Blair aide, who says that the decision of the BP demonstrates that Leavers are single minded and determined to get Brexit at any cost. He goes on to say that Remainers aren’t so single minded and more prone to introspection. Of course to any impartial observer of UK politics over the past four years it’s the Remainers who have been single minded and unswerving in their determination to refuse to implement the democratic will of the people.

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        • Doublethinker says:

          There has already been some comments which indicate just how deranged the typical Remainer has become. The best of them is from Richards , a former Blair aide, who says that the decision of the BP demonstrates that Leavers are single minded and determined to get Brexit at any cost. He goes on to say that Remainers aren’t so single minded and more prone to introspection. Of course to any impartial observer of UK politics over the past four years it’s the Remainers who have been single minded and unswerving in their determination to refuse to implement the democratic will of the people.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      A genuinely patriotic action by patriots.
      Thank you all.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Last
        It would be ‘stylish’ if the conservatives gave up the fight for certain labour brexit constituencies over to the brexit party – perhaps targeting the worst 10 or more traitors – such as Evette Balls Cooper who – if I recall – has a 68% leave constituency ….and should have stood down like so many other traitors have .

        And if anyone thinks my use of the term ‘traitor ‘ is over the top – I think it is wholly correct because they have denied democracy and are unfit to make british laws …

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        • Doublethinker says:

          Agree.

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        • LastChanceSaloon says:

          Fedup2
          I agree, without expecting it to happen.
          Meanwhile Conservatives now 1/2 with William Hill to win an overall majority.

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        • pertelote says:

          It would be good to see Brexit party stand down in Brecon & Radnor too (and maybe one or two other constituencies). if not I think the LIb (un)Dems will retain it having taken it from Labour in recent by-electio). Given the voting behaviour there I cannot see BXP actually winning it (..sadly). I think The Tories would be hot favourites to win if BXP stood down (note – there should be some quid pro quo elsewhere for this act)

             8 likes

    • Oldspeaker says:

      ” the Brexit party will not contest any seats won by Tories”
      All very cosy, no shortage of action when it comes to self preservation and maintaining the status quo. Profoundly depressing news, still, we get the leaders we deserve.

         13 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Oldspeaker – I’m guessing you are speaking as a socialist . I’m a hard core Brexiter but it’s the lesser of two evils for me . The consequences of a Lab/LibSNP/IRA pact would be just too much .Very few Conservative policies are Right enough for me because I favour a minimal state as opposed to large number of people being employed by it or paid by it .

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        • Oldspeaker says:

          “hard core Brexiter”, same.
          “Very few Conservative policies are Right enough for me”, agreed.
          “minimal state”, same, less than that actually.
          I’m speaking as a betrayed Conservative, sometime UKIP voter, I’m afraid our sitting MPs are well past their sell by, all of them, if we have to suffer an unholy alliance to wake people up then so be it. All I can see todays announcement leading to is more of the same.

          But, I have been known to be wrong.

             11 likes

      • Jagman84 says:

        You cannot “Change politics for good” while still a member of the EU. It has to be a step at a time. There currently isn’t a majority for PR, or the LibDem version at least, so that is for another day.

           3 likes

    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      Halifax, bet365 have Labour winning over or under 200.5 seats at 5/6!
      Go to the Specials drop down and then UK
      Alternatively go with another bookie 🤞

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  27. Ian Rushlow says:

    Oh dear – not a good day for Al Beeb. The shady founder of the White Helmets, an organisation that was so beloved by St Jo of Cox, has been found ‘retired’ (dead) in Turkey. Will the BBC point the finger at Moscow or Whitehall…
    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-50375869
    https://www.rt.com/news/473136-white-helmets-le-mesurier-dead-syria/

       31 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Even worse for the BBC is the news ( apparently ) that the British steel jobs are being saved …

         29 likes

  28. MarkyMark says:

    Ex-BBC Employee recognised this behaviour … “Who controls the past (OLD CLIPS) controls the future. Who controls the present (SHOWING OLD CLIPS) controls the past.”

    ― George Orwell, 1984

       27 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Don’t agree with the guy who calls in=t Orwellian
      It was just a crazy minor BBC mistake that LabMob inn a game of Chinese whispers and lack of proportion have built into a HUGE conspiracy thery

         3 likes

  29. JamesArthur says:

    Ha ha R4 ‘Sarah’ trying to discuss VAR in football. She clearly just had a list of questions and had no idea what she was asking or why…classic idiot talking…the chap she was talking to (didn’t get his name) was calm and answered all the questions and clearly did know what he was talking about..

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  30. tarien says:

    So Scunthorpe Steel has been sold to the most undemocratic nation in the World and under an extreme dictatorship; its influence could invade our freedoms-we mut be very careful about letting other nations enter ours or come seeking investment or anyhting else-we should treat it all with the deepest suspicion. Frankly with the number of UK Billionaires we currently have, I am surprised that none of them thought it worthwhile to invest the odd £70 million to keep Scunthorpe Steel under British ownership.

       24 likes

    • G says:

      Tarien,
      A question on Twato to an economist, was, ‘how much of British Industry does China own’. Reply? about 10%. 10% too much.

         20 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Tarien
      Usually I’d agree but if was a matter of allowing China to own that company or no company at all I know which way I’d go . There is a risk – but whAt choice is there otherwise if no one else wants to buy it . ?

         12 likes

      • tarien says:

        Agree Fedup2, but doesn’t it make you mad? It does me-of course I would rather the guys and girls who have employment in the Steel Mill kept that employment, especially at this time. Nevertheless we must restrain from allowing more of our industry to disappear to the likes of China et al. Things are not that stable in China, the business men know it, and so are seeking elsewhere to invest their illgotten gains. The west just now, and especially Europe are vunerable to investment from wherever and with anyone inc Russia-another danger zone. Miserable outlook-never mind have another mince pie!

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    • 7Clubs says:

      The Tory govt probably did a secret quid pro quo deal with China to get British Steel bought.If Brexiteer Jim Ratcliffe has left Britain because of its environmental laws why would any other UK billionaire want to get involved with steel.
      Incidentally does it ever occur to anyone in favour of the Tory Brexit party deal what would happen in the 317 Tory seats if a bad news event happens and there is a freefall in the Tory vote?
      Brexit voters no longer have an obvious alternative and many may take their chances on Labours 2nd referendum

         8 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      £70 million equates to slightly less than Britain spends on ‘Foreign Aid’ every two days. Some might question the wisdom of selling off the family silver steel to the Chinese.

         14 likes

  31. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    The conservatives seem to think that the Brexit Party should stand down and let the conservatives have a go at every seat in the forthcoming GE.

    How arrogant.

    They refuse a sensible pact and when Nigel makes a huge gesture to help Brexit they want him to quit all the other constituencies to give conservatives a better chance.

    What they are saying is TBP shouldn’t be allowed to exist.

    Just about every brexiteer realises that a pact would be a huge advantage yet the conservatives are so arrogant they are willing to risk Brexit. The media seems to think this is Nigel capitulating yet I think it’s more Nigel being the bigger man and a true patriot.

    Watching politics live, Corbyn kept saying they would be having Richard Tice on. At the end of the show, no Tice and no mention why not.

       26 likes

  32. Guest Who says:

    And…. he’s baaaaaack!

    If only Rob spent more time making sure his minions did not foul up rather than desperately trying to placate those he will never please short of pinning a red flag on W1A, the better.

       15 likes

  33. Demon says:

    Thank you Nigel. I was unsure who to vote for. My heart said BP but my head said Conservative. My dilemma is gone so I will vote for my Brexiteer MP.

       25 likes

  34. StewGreen says:

    BBC Inverted racism
    #1 12:11am Sunday
    “The black princess who ‘took on a white world’
    The forgotten story of Princess Dinubolu, whose beauty ambitions shocked Edwardian Britain.” (BBC Look East)

    #2 10am Sunday : Schoolboy* interviews D-Day veteran
    (ethnic Somali schoolboy)

    #3 LIVE Remembrance Sunday ” Sad to hear of the young girl dying in service but not surprised to see that she had a black father and white mother. It’s agenda agenda agenda”

    #4 Remembrance Sunday Service in Birmingham attended by military veterans and Armed Forces representatives.
    The reporter found one soldier to interview, he was of west Indian origin.
    There were thousands of people who lined the streets to pay their respects.
    The reporter started to recite the expected mantra that Birmingham was a multicultural city.

       19 likes

  35. StewGreen says:

    OK Labour PR activists are making the most of it
    but was the entire newsclip … actually less then thirty seconds ?
    .. That is hardly massive promo for Boris

       7 likes

  36. StewGreen says:

    Tonight ..will they rewrite more history ?
    The guests are mostly “emeritus” (retired)
    And one has an African surname

       10 likes

  37. dafydd says:

    This is the Labours candidate for Pudsey in Leeds for the next election.
    This is what Labour believes to be a suitable candidate for there party..

    I know Maggie Thatcher wasn’t every bodies cup of tea but this lump of Primordial Slime’s comments are disgusting..God help us if they get into power..

    https://order-order.com/2019/11/11/labours-twelve-second-silence-interview-candidate-celebrated-thatchers-death/

       20 likes

  38. Fedup2 says:

    Dafydd
    Both partys seem to have idiot candidates who can’t help themselves when it comes to social media – but I think Labour has more than an edge in terms of violent abuse .

    Talking of violence – I wonder if the BBC is going to mix up some footage of comrade Corbyn having a nice friendly chat with the thankfully dead lead murderer of the IRA – a certain Martin McGuinness . I still don’t get how Ian Paisley could Be in the same place with him .

       15 likes

    • dafydd says:

      Fedup2…..

      Spot on but what i dont understand is why its not on the BBC Channels..

      A tory candidate said something in 2014 and its all over there channel..

      I just think she is disgusting

         16 likes

  39. john in cheshire says:

    So, Bolivia’s President, Evo Morales, had been forced to step down. There’s been a coup d’état, so he’s lucky he’s still alive.

    President Trump may be President of the US but it appears that the CIA and others are still allowed to get up to their usual dirty tricks.

    Has the racist far-left bbc reported on this news?

       15 likes

  40. BRISSLES says:

    Speaking to my moderate Labour Councillor brother today, I asked if he was geared up for electioneering. He groaned. He said that in all honesty he struggled to show any enthusiasm for the Candidate – someone who had been drafted in from the smoke and who was part of the Momentum movement. This is a town with a good record of returning a Labour MP in previous elections, but my brother is highly doubtful on this occasion, as on the doorstep he is finding utter resilience against Corbyn, and by dyed in the wool Labour supporters.

       35 likes

    • dafydd says:

      BRISSLES…

      MY BROTHER IS A RAVING LEFTIE BUT EVEN HE WILL NOT VOTE LABOUR UNDER CORBYN..HE CANNOT BELIEVE HOW HIS BELOVED PARTY HAS ENDED UP LIKE THIS..HE IS NOT GOING TO VOTE

         30 likes

      • pertelote says:

        >dafydd/Brissles…thanks for those anecdotes

        loving it!

        Liebour with <100 seats in the HoC..that would make my year (decade?)!

           23 likes

  41. Foscari says:

    The BBC seems to have become suicidal since Nigel Farage’s
    announcement. It gives a much better chance of my MP
    Theresa Villiers in Barnet holding on to her seat.
    You can call Farage magnanimous or Machiavellian or both ,
    whatever your point of view. But in my opinion if the Daily Mail
    carries out editorials advising conservatives in “Workington Man”
    Labour constituencies ‘ to vote Brexit . With these seats with
    their big pro Brexit turnout at the 2016 Referendum. It’s possible
    that enough of the die hard Labour voters, who would never
    vote Tory ,will vote Brexit!
    Of course Conservatives will stand in these constituencies . But
    as an ODDS COMPILER I agree with William Hills change of
    quote from odds against to 1 to 2 , for an outright Tory win!!
    But still remember, very many 1 to 2 chances still get beaten.
    One bit of advice I would give to Boris Johnson would be
    not to appear on BBC debates unless the balanced Andrew
    Neil is asking the questions. However I very much expect it to
    be one of the plethora of liberal bigots , mostly women ,whom
    the BBC employ.

       36 likes

  42. In The Real World says:

    I don,t comment on here very often as I don,t watch or listen to the BEEB , but I wonder if anybody has seen this item on there .[ Sarc ]
    http://www.acasefortreason.co.uk/fco-30-1048/

    Document from when we joined the EEC back in 1971 .Been hidden up by civil servants for over 30 years , & tells how the EEC is going to turn into an all controling body taking away our soverignty , taking control of our laws & courts & overiding Parliament . Even setting our taxes .
    It describes how civil servants must try to keep the truth from the public , & even from most of Parliament itself because the people must not know what we are getting into .

    Quite a long read, but if the BEEB has already done it , then I am sure everybody knows all about it .??????????

       22 likes

  43. pertelote says:

    >Fiscari..a Mateless interview might go badly wrong for the left..she is rightly reviled by many. I can’t say that..she just makes me puke!

    Bookies generally get it right..that’s why most are still in business and “doing very well”..like Billericay Dickie.

       8 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      6 pm tv news
      Not something I’ve seen for a very long time but I thought I’d watch to see the treatment the Farage Johnson pact would receive .

      Funny how , because it’s the Remainer Broadcasting Corpse , the alliance is spun with a negative tone – as opposed to it being far more likely for a pro brexit government to get power come 13 December .

      We may land up with a watered down brexit but the alternative will be a lablib plot to fix a withdrawal referendum in addition to have an anti British communist and his front bench puppets destroying the country .

      The BBC also did a negative thing on British steel workers looking to still have their jobs .

      Then I’d had enough 10 long minutes . Maybe I’ll see it again sometime in the next decade – but more likely not .

         24 likes

      • G says:

        Fed,
        “…..in addition to have an anti British communist and his front bench puppets destroying the country .”
        That would be for five years at the most. The Boris Sell-Out will, I’m afraid, endure as a Treaty for decades. Take your pick. I’d prefer the latter.

           5 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          G
          Treaties can always be modified if circumstances dictate . Some here have opined that once comrade Corbyn got power they’d fix the voting system for brainless 16 year olds to get the vote – and if you recall some traitors tried it on last week —as well as allowing foreigners to vote in UK elections – again see the attempt last week . That was a real frightener and sums up the traitor parliament .

             11 likes

  44. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Thank you to #44951 Private J Insull from the Royal Berkshire Regiment.

    Private Insull died, aged nineteen, on the 11th November 1918.

    I took photographs of the, Commonwealth War Graves Commission pattern, gravestone in May, with the intention of posting a photograph here today. To discover I cannot post my own photographs.

       13 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Last
      I don’t know of a reason why pictures can’t be posted on this site . I know tecky friends will read and advise.

         5 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      Last

      I can post my own pictures, but I find they have to have already been posted on the internet, either on Facebook or on Twitter, for example. Then I simply copy and paste the address. Hope this helps.

         5 likes

      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        G.W.F.
        I do not use social media, your description is exactly what I understand the situation to be.

           6 likes

    • davylars says:

      Last. I am probably the least tecy person on this site, but this works.

      https://postimages.org/

      Just follow instructions then use hotlink for forums. Voila..

         6 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      The easiest way to post your own photographs is to tweet the image and then grab the url of the tweet by right or long clicking over the date stamp
      and post it here.

         1 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @LCS more info ..it was two brothers
      George INSULL
      Lance Corporal
      144th Company Machine Gun Corps (Infantry) [shown as Worcestershire Regiment on memorial]
      Service No 22557
      Died aged 19 on 18th July 1916
      Son of Rose Insull, 32 Welsh Gate, Bewdley, Worcestershire, and the late John Insull
      Commemorated on Thiepval Memorial, France, Pier and Face 5 C and 12 C.
      George Insull and his younger brother Jack, who served with the Royal Berkshire Regiment and died on the last day of the war, are both commemorated on the St Anne’s Memorial Bewdley

      Jack INSULL
      Private
      8th Battalion Royal Berkshire Regiment
      Service No 44951
      Died aged 19 on 11th November 1918
      Son of Rose Insull, 32 The Hollow, Welsh Gate, Bewdley, Worcestershire, and the late John Insull
      Buried in Ribbesford (St. Leonard) Churchyard, Worcestershire, England, In old ground, South-West of Church.
      Appears in the Worcester/Worcestershire Roll of Honour Book for army casualties located in Worcester Cathedral.
      Jack Insull was the younger brother of Lance Corporal George Insull who served with Percy Whittington Carter in the 144th Company Machine Gun Corps, and died in 1916.
      WM140401%20Bewdley%20cMikeGuttridge%2014%20Nov%202014%20WW1%20names%20panel%201.JPG
      Photo source
      – Info from
      From a 2011 Facebook discussion

         11 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Good . Glad it got posted . Lest we forget . Often wonder how my granddad survived France on and off from 1913 to 1919 .

        I found out that his battalion didn’t engage at the first Somme until day 2 but had been at the initial retreat at the start of the war .

        He must have been just ‘ lucky ‘ because he was tall as well – a big factor when in a trench …

        Field of Remembrance at Westminster for me Tuesday . Always go .

           12 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        “George Insull’s younger brother Jack served with the Royal Berkshire Regiment and died on the last day of the war. (See below) Their brother Charles Insull served with the 10th battalion of the Worcestershire Regiment, but was wounded and survived the war.”
        From article about Georges war
        which has photo of his tombstone
        https://greatwarresearch.com/2016/07/16/bewdley-pals-two-machine-gunners-and-the-battle-of-ovillers/

           4 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        The actual tombstone memorial in France
        probably looks like these Commonwealth gravestones

        Here is a list of the Insull family war records Commonwealth War Graves Commission archive
        ..Jack is buried in RIBBESFORD (ST. LEONARD) CHURCHYARD
        In old ground, South-West of Church.

           4 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          Someone in our next village also died on the 11th of the eleventh
          I said to the historian , that he was so unlucky and if only the war had ended a day earlier.
          She explained, no that actually he died in a hospital in England as he had been injured 8 weeks earlier and been brought back, so he would only have lived if the war had ended 2 months earlier.

             8 likes

          • john in cheshire says:

            I have read several times that the Kaiser wanted to stop the war in 1916 and even sent an envoy to, I think, the Tsar of Russia to discuss a ceasefire. But the globalists, or whatever name is given to the evil bastards who started the war and who continued it for another 2 years, made sure that this offer was never considered.

               2 likes

      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        SG
        Thank you, I took my photographs at St Leonard’s Ribbesford.
        Thanks also to other BBBC contributors who assisted with information.

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  45. Fiat Lux says:

    I’m not sure if this piece of fine public service broadcasting has been posted yet.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/stories-50318490/grime-artist-jay0117-explores-the-white-race-conversation
    I think this response to it by Chris Dangerfield is completely on the money. Please note Dangerfield has occasionally veered into “nudge nudge small hats Frankfurt School” vaguely anti Semitic conspiracy theories territory on his channel although not in this video. Make your own minds up folks.
    https://www.bitchute.com/video/Yyb2JuKXdi7F/

       2 likes

  46. StewGreen says:

    7pm One Show hit Virtue Signalling Jackpot
    – Amol as lead presenter
    – BME woman as co host
    – Hillary Clinton as Guest
    … She didn’t call Monica Lewinsky a gutsy woman

       11 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      \\ She conflated the murder of Jo Cox by a lone madman with #Brexit and none of the pathetic @BBCTheOneShow presenters challenged her.
      Complain to @bbc //


      She thinks London equals Britain.
      EJHTihuXkAAF-G7.jpg:small

         24 likes

      • Celtic_Mist says:

        “threats are made and sadly you had a young parliamentarian Jo Cox actually murdered around the whole Brexit controversy, so”

           9 likes

        • Celtic_Mist says:

          She still believes that Trump is not the legitimate president because of Russian interference.

          That sentiment is also held by others in the matter of Brexit (translated by Google)-

          “Here is Hilary Clinton: for the former secretary of state the refusal to publish before the elections of December 12 the report of inquiry into the Russian influence in the campaign on Brexit in 2016 is not eligible in a democracy. Definitely, Trump, Clinton …

             9 likes

          • Fedup2 says:

            So it’s ok for a certain kind of foreigner to interfere with a UK election via the State Broadcaster …
            Might have been best to deny her entry to the Country

            And guessing she didn’t mention Veterans Day or Armistice

               19 likes

          • tarien says:

            Why on earth was this woman who has more evil surrounding her past activitites than anyone in the world-we have no interest in what she has to say-just once again shows the mind set of the BBC et al. If you look at her history you will marvel that she is still alive.

               9 likes

      • john in cheshire says:

        Did she do a reprise of her infamous boast:
        ” we came, we saw, he died”, and then a burst of laughter from her.

        Or, is she still as fascinated by balloons, as captured in a widely publicised photo of her and that sex fiend of a husband of hers?

        Or maybe she called us Leavers a ” basket of Deplorables”?

        Or did anyone ask her about the ankle bracelet, that looks like a police tag?

        Or what about the reports that she’s a lesbian?

        Or that she indulges in witchcraft and attends satanic rituals; pace the so-called artist who uses blood, excrement and semen in her artistic work?

        Or what about that picture of her sex fiend husband sitting on a chair wearing a blue dress? Which was found in Jeffery Epstein’s house.

           5 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Blimey oh riley, me and Hils are the same age, and I can only say the years haven’t been kind to her – or maybe I’ve just got better genes !!!

         14 likes

  47. Guest Who says:

    Clearly the BBC has need of a Thing Editor.

    Rob seems well qualified.

       7 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Rob’s right when the comedian tweeted that boy Cyril on Question Time was a plant by the Pro-Tory BBC
      the left went into a twitter frenzy cos they so WANTED it to be true
      Likewise with the Breakfast clip mix up
      ..a total lack of proportion, plus Chinese whispers turned into a huge ridiculous conspiracy theory.

         8 likes

  48. G says:

    Just who triggered the Jack-in-the-box mechanism again? All running threateningly well for Boris and, out of the hat, sorry, box, springs Farage to cave in. Never to hear, “Holding Boris’ feet to the fire” again? Yes, I think so. In the game of chicken, Farage blinked. All gob and no trousers. Perhaps he received a call from this mate Soros?
    Only last week, I made another voluntary donation to TBP. Question is, can I ask for a refund on the basis of broken expectations?
    Ah Well!, back to the 2.25 party system again……………
    Echo’s of ‘Change Politics for Good’.

       5 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      G
      I disagree – I think Mr Farage bent to internal pressure as well as polling data showing how remain partys would win through vote splits . Twitter has been showing voting intentions for days .

      A deal has been done . And in a few days I think we’ll find some brexit constituencies with no Tory candidate.

         15 likes

      • G says:

        Fed,
        “A deal has been done” What? the “unilateral” deal?

           2 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          I think it’s a deal which will not be publicised ….. brokered through the ERG last week. But that’s my guess …

             10 likes

      • Cooper_Man says:

        That would be my hope as well in my constituency of Peterborough, though knowing the arrogance of the Tories I wouldn’t bet on it. The result of our by-election earlier this year was as follows:

        Lab – 10,484
        Brexit – 9,801
        Cons – 7,243
        LibDem – 4,159
        Green – 1.035
        Others – 1,198

        The Brexit and Cons vote totalled 50.24% – so if they can’t see the necessity for a deal here, then there’s no hope.

           18 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Cooper
          But from memory the labour vote had an unnatural proportion of postal votes which won them their margin of victory – engineered by a Pakistani previously convicted of election. fraud …

             24 likes

      • Banania says:

        Agreed. Farage had no option if Brexit is his overriding aim, and it is because of him and his associates that we are where we are and not in a much worse position. I hope TBP will achieve some parliamentary representation so that they can keep up the pressure.

           3 likes

    • Dave S says:

      Corbyn is not fit to be PM. Nigel knows the danger to this country if that were to happen. That overrides any other concerns as it should for a patriot. Corbyn as PM would mean the end of the allaince with the USA that has served us for over a century. A Western state that is hostile to the very existence of Israel as a viable state would be unthinkable. That is what a Corbyn premiership would mean.
      Sometimes the needs of the future and the outside world take precedence over our concerns. Corbyn’s labour party is something this country has never had to face. Needs must.

         24 likes

      • Thoughtful says:

        Corbyn is a Fascist verging on Nazi. It’s not just the Jews Labour hate, it’s White people too, but the people are slowly waking up to the true end game of political correctness – the end of white culture and probably of white people too.

           26 likes

  49. Up2snuff says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50345761

    Maths not a BBC strong point, I see. All those iPhones, iPads and laptops and they cannot get it all to add to 100.

    Oooops!

       8 likes