Midweek Thread 6 November 2019

The official start of the Election Campaign. We will be joined , no doubt , by political parties and organisations monitoring the bias of the Far Left pro EU BBC output and complaining to OFCOM and the Electoral Commission – favoured resting places for bubble dwellers .

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450 Responses to Midweek Thread 6 November 2019

  1. pugnazious says:

    Hilarious…BBC et al getting very irate about the Tory comedy video mash-up of Starmer stammering and stumbling in a terrible GMBTV interview and yet they did the same thing…but not as a comedy hitjob…pure manipulation and distortion of events….

    BBC accused of anti-independence bias after editing out Salmond’s reply to ‘bank exodus’ question

    ‘ The BBC faces accusations of anti-independence bias after its political editor, Nick Robinson, produced a report that wrongly claimed Alex Salmond had ignored his question during a heated press conference.

    Calling into question the impartiality of the publicly-owned broadcaster, the veteran BBC correspondent edited out Salmond’s lengthy answer, in which the First Minister claimed the BBC had skewed facts and colluded with the Treasury to undermine the “Yes” campaign. ‘

    The BBC edit….

    The actual answer…

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  2. Panda says:

    Jeremy, how shocked are you that your party is being investigated for anti semetic racism and are you ashamed of yourselves?
    Just one of 547 questions that you won’t be hearing on the beeb/ Sly news over the next five weeks.

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  3. popeye says:

    There’s an item on the BBC webpages about a problem with pension funds being run for small businesses leading to the unintended consequences of some businessmen having enormous and unfair liabilities. There was a bill proposed to sort this out, quite rightly, but this has been lost now that Parliament has been suspended. So what sub-heading screams out at you?

    Glimmer of hope ‘scuppered by Brexit’

    No agenda there then. I am aware that it was a quote from someone, hence the inverted commas, but the prominence of the phrase is given by the Biased BBC

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  4. pugnazious says:

    Just a reminder…from 2015…nothing’s changed it would seem…

    https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2015/11/nick-robinson-tackles-anti-corbyn-bias-at-the-bbc/

    ‘Over the weekend the BBC’s former political editor, Nick Robinson, confessed — in an interview in the Sunday Times — that he had written to several BBC colleagues over concerns that the corporation’s political coverage is biased against Jeremy Corbyn. When asked by Lynn Barber whether he was ‘shocked’ by the way the BBC ‘rubbish Jeremy Corbyn’, Robinson replied ‘yes’:

    ‘Yes. Oddly, although I was off work, I did drop a note to a few people after his first weekend saying this is really interesting and we owe it to the audience to sound as if we’re interested.’

    In fact, Robinson — who was the president of the Oxford University Conservative Association during his time as a student — appears to be rather enamoured with the new Labour leader, attending a Corbyn rally just for fun:

    ‘Even though I was off work, I was so frustrated that I couldn’t cover Corbyn’s election, I took myself off to a Corbyn rally. My wife thought I was very sad, but I thought, I’ve got to go and see this for myself!’

    Still not aware of the BBC ‘rubbishing’ Corbyn ever.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      “My god Robinson is married . Poor woman .
      It never crossed my mind that such an odious man would be married “ some say / it has been said .

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  5. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Not BBC. This is a long read

    https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/11/uk-jewish-conservatives-door-broken-down-he-is-handcuffed-and-jailed-on-suspicion-of-islamophobia

    Jewish conservative’s door broken down, he is handcuffed and jailed on suspicion of “Islamophobia”

    After about five minutes or so of these officers banging on the front door and issuing threats to break it down and officers menacingly patrolling my back garden, an officer, who at this point I cannot positively identify, brought up what looked like a battering ram. The officers were shouting through the door ‘we are going to break the door down now’.

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  6. Terminal Moraine says:

    Islam promo on the home page: PJ Harvey: ‘Wearing veil in Afghanistan was a freeing experience.’ The beeb seizes on the female singer’s experience of how she found Islamic dress liberating whilst shooting a film on location.

    — “nobody could see me”
    — “I was just a woman’s pair of eyes”
    — “it took away everything I’d formed of myself to date as a person”

    I’d normally expect to see comments like these in relation to domestic abuse… in any other context the BBC would be full of feminist outrage. But PJ happens to be not only a singer/musician but also an occasional actress and a former guest editor of R4’s Today programme. So naturally the experience of wearing the veil is ’freeing’, and everyone at W1A laps it up, because it’s Islam.

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    • pugnazious says:

      It’s for their own protecton…all men are rapists and it’s just natural for men to rape women who dress immodestly…..apparently…according to Islam…..

      https://theislamicfarrightinbritain.wordpress.com/2014/05/27/abdurraheem-green-rape-social-responsibility/

      ‘“The hijab is not to oppress the woman. Actually Allah (SWT) mentioned the wisdom behind the hijab. Not everything Allah mentioned the wisdom behind why we should do it but Allah mentioned the wisdom behind the hijab. And Allah said to the believing women to put this garment over themselves, the khimar over themselves, to dress in this way. And Allah gave two reasons for that. The first reason is that, so that people may know and recognise them to be believing Muslim women and the second reason is that they may go unmolested. So the first reason is it is a type of uniform. It is a type of means of recognition because the way you dress makes a statement about yourself. It’s a fact. And you know what is a fact? In courts all over the world, in America, in Britain, even I read about it here in India, many women who have gone to court and who have been raped, either the rapist had a very small sentence or no sentence at all. And due to what reason? Because the woman was dressed in a very provocative manner. She was dressed in a very, very provocative manner and behaving in a very provocative manner. And this is something actually that happens to the man. When a man sees the woman dressed in a certain way, behaving in a certain way, something happens to him. So if you dress in a certain way, in a very alluring way, then you’re going to get a certain reaction from the man. It’s called the flowers and the bees, yes? You have the flower, pretty flower, light colourful petals, and the flower lets out a nice scent. So the bee is flying along ‘bzzzz’ and the bee picks up the scent of the flower, oh it smells nice, and he sees the pretty colours of the flower and the bee goes to take the nectar from the flower. That’s what happens, yes? It’s nature. So when the woman, her hair is all here and her lipstick, and she’s looking all beatiful and this and that, the man, like the busy bee, is ‘bzzzz’ right? And he can’t help going towards the beautiful flower. He can’t help that. It’s the nature. But the problem is, well the problem is it causes lots of problems, because that girl is someone’s daughter, or someone’s wife, or someones’s aunt or even someone’s mother. And the evil consequences of this are so many. So what does Islam do? The woman takes responsibility. She takes social responsibility. She cuts the doors to this evil by covering her beauty. Her beauty is for her husband. She covers her beauty. And, also, when people see her they say no, this is not a woman who is interested in hanky panky. This is not a woman who is saying come over here, talk to me, don’t I look beautiful, maybe we can go out tonite. No, because she is dressed, she has covered herself in loose clothes. She has covered her hair. She has covered her face, her hands maybe even. And it makes a very clear statement, I am not interested in these things, I am a Muslim women, I am a believer, I am for my husband and my obedience is to Allah. So the hijab really has many, many benefits. In fact we could give a lecture just on the benefits of the hijab to society and to the individual woman. But one of the reasons Allah gives is so that the people will know she is a believing woman, and actually the second thing is the same, she will be unmolested.”’

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Only freeing because she chose to put it on and can take it off. It is like when I dressed as a gorilla – I was able to not be myself – pretty sure most people who have dressed up for a while and not easily recognisable know the feeling – but I wouldn’t want to wear a gorilla suit all the time. Typical virtue signalling and ignoring the blatant oppression of women in the muslim world….

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      I don’t know who ‘PJ Harvey’ is, but I have a female friend – actually, she’s a rather senior figure in the LibDems who has recently started referring to herself as ‘PM’ – and she’s looking for a veil that will cover just her teeth but leave the rest of her exposed. I’ve read hundreds of articles on the BBC website explaining about all the different types of headscarves and coverings available, but nothing seems to match. Can anyone help out please?

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      • Scronker says:

        PJ Harvey was the author of a book on Fly Fishing. I believe it was very popular some thirty or forty years ago.

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  7. Terminal Moraine says:

    Islam promo 2: ‘The dangerous life of food delivery drivers’ which in BBC hands means “Hard-working immigrants left to hang by their evil capitalist employers.”

    Examples from around the world, but top billing goes to Sonya King of Atlanta who was attacked at a customer’s house (the BBC don’t mention the attacker was a man who thought he was Jesus). You’d think one photo would do, but somehow she gets the royal BBC treatment with three. Why — to illustrate her injuries? To show the site of the incident? So we can see the tragedy of cheeseburgers and milkshakes spilled all over the road? Or for some other reason…?

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  8. Doobster78 says:

    Really ??? Who knew ??? He kept this well hidden. Poisonous little dwarf !!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Very sad that one biased rat can frustrate the view of 17.4 million people . I’m actually shocked that he has so blatantly stuck two fingers up at the taxpayers who will be paying him until the day he dies .

      I was going to write something about the longevity of the odious creature but thought I’d better not and just leave it at a curse .

      I suppose the next PM has to give him a peerage .

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    • Dave S says:

      Not the sharpest knife in the box is he? Retired a couple of days and shooting his mouth off already. Dumb .

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  9. Doobster78 says:

    Hey BBC … any chance, any chance at all, that you might FACT CHECK Corbyn, Swinson, Lucas etc any time soon ? Or is it just Boris you fact check ? It sure seems that way !! Bias, what Bias ?

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  10. dafydd says:

    For the first time in my life i wrote a complaint, to OFCOM.

    Watching the Primordial lump of slime called Kay Burley gesturing to an empty chair where she said James Cleverly MP should have been was jaw dropping biased. The man was not even scheduled to be on the programe it has now transpired

    Its getting so fucking awful to watch these leftie presenters..And the most amazing thing about it is, they are no longer even trying to hide there bias…I thought the BBC was bad, Sky has rapidly caught up…

    The election campaign has just started and these Tories seem to have inherited Theresa May’s complete ineptitude ..God help us..!!!!!

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  11. pugnazious says:

    I listened to ‘The Beauty’ on Today this morning as he told us in no uncertain terms that Trump was busted for trying to blackmail Ukraine into dishing the dirt on Biden using the threat of withholding aid as the stick.

    Hmmm…it’s pretty much rubbish…the ‘evidence’ was not anything substantial and in no way proved a thing. We were told that US Ambassador to the EU had said that Trump did demand a quid pro quo…..except that wasn’t what he said…..

    ‘ Sondland, who had also testified earlier that there was no “quid pro quo,” had to amend that testimony after he was apparently contradicted by U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine Bill Taylor, who testified last month that he believed there was a “quid pro quo,” under which the Trump administration was withholding key military aid to Ukraine unless it investigated alleged corruption related to former Vice President Joe Biden and his son, Hunter Biden.

    In a supplemental declaration filed with the committee, Sondland said that “by the beginning of September 2019, and in the absence of any credible explanation for the suspension of aid,” he “presumed that the [Ukraine] aid suspension had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement” and the investigation of the Bidens. That led him to tell the Ukrainian government that “resumption of U.S. aid would likely not occur” until it complied.’

    So he merely “presumed that the [Ukraine] aid suspension had become linked to the proposed anti-corruption statement”

    No-one actually said it was or that was how he should proceed….which is pretty much how Sopel seems to do his journalism…just presuming what he wants to hear and presenting that as fact.

    More BBC fake, fake, fake news.

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  12. Guest Who says:

    This, from ITBB, goes a bit further on they who would keep the BBC on the straight and narrow….

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/11/whatever-happened-to-aaqil-ahmed.html

    I just asked all the local candidates if there were to be live hustings.

    So far… one reply. TBP.

    Maybe the others are relying on ‘what you need to know’ from the BBC?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Back to Bercow

      Guido – who was not a fan – points out that protocol has been broken on the installation of the new speaker – in that the traditional first motion is to recommend that the queen bestows a peerage on the outgoing Speaker .

      For some reason this didn’t happen … smiley emoji

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  13. BRISSLES says:

    Light relief from Brexit………….

    Antiques Road Trip has become a mainstay of afternoon scheduling, but really ? if anyone other than the on camera experts tried to offer the store owners anything over a fiver off the asking price we’d get shown the door. How does this work ? do the Beeb compensate the shop owners after the cameras stop rolling ?

    Just watched Raj Bisram offer £60 for two items – one priced at £58 and the other at £65 (£123). It was accepted. Admittedly at auction the items occasionally reach a much higher figure, but generally not the price the store owner asked. Its assumed then that before the camera rolls items are already picked out and a price agreed beforehand, with the ticket price greatly increased for effect.
    Complicated – but its the sort of afternoon I’ve had so far.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Brissles:

      I have no doubt that on these programmes the item is selected and the price agreed long before the “stars” appear.

      As you say, if you or I offered a dealer half what he was asking, we would get short shrift. I imagine the dealers get some sort of appearance fee, so the discounts do not really hurt their pockets, and of course, all proceeds go to Children in Need!

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  14. StewGreen says:

    On the library table there is a16 page newspaper where all faces in the photos are WHITE people
    … except for a token black drummer.

    It’s the second edition of a monthly PR paper.
    Guess who publishes it ?

    The drummer is in front of a pink boat.

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Review into bail laws
    Cos we have so many crims, the policy seems to be to make the court process so slow so that half the perps have died or gone back to another country before there is trial.
    That meant that when Paul Gambaccini was charged he was left on police bail for more than 1 year.

    So the gov changed the rules so that limit would be 28 days.

    So police started to not bother with bail. and just release people.. hoping that they will turn up in court after a year.

    This is meaning that many perps have been left to freely harass their victims
    Usually an exgirlfriend etc.
    So the Women’s rights orgs have campaigned for this to be sorted.
    Police Federation tweeted
    @PFEW_Chair welcomes @ukhomeoffice
    review of flawed pre-charge bail reforms:

    ✅✅’Our stance has always been that a 28 day bail limit was unrealistic’

    ✅✅’This is much needed and long overdue’
    http://bit.ly/2rc8R90

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Non- party , Tottenham black pastor wants to be next London Mayor, instead of Sadiq continuing

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  17. StewGreen says:

    XR to sue police for wrongful arrest
    Yet the man who served 2 years for rape at aged 22
    is to get no compensation.
    His family had managed to get access to Facebook messages the accuser had deleted to hide them from police.
    They said it was so easy and that the police should have found them but didn’t.
    The authorities say that although the conviction is quashed cos the case is no longer robust; It is not enough to prove him innocent.

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    • EmptyingDadsShed says:

      The BBC believes that we are all guilty,
      no licence – an investigation threat or visit from an officer.
      So when the police say “there is not enough to prove him innocent” is that because the BBC beliefs are influencing our justice system,
      moving from innocent until proven guilty to presumed guilty until proved innocent.

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    • G says:

      SG,
      More Soros money for the legal challenge no doubt.

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  18. StewGreen says:

    Times : Libby Purves finds the gender pay gap not so much of an issue, as why there is such a studiousness vs cuddliness pay gap.
    ie hard-working Kuensberg gets paid way less than Claudia Winkleman does.

    … doh what’s she want , communism ?

    Star quality brings international sales, studiousness doesn’t.

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    • JimS says:

      Laura Kuenssberg doesn’t have Eve Pollard for a mother. The ‘media’ is very incestuous.

      Eve Pollard is all that Claudia Winkleman has going for her. Her shampoo has more talent.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      I seem to recall that Libby Purves had cuddliness in abundance (how she got into her yacht’s cabin, I know not) but she outdid that, many times over with her talkiness.

      She would have several guests on her R4 MidWeek programme and then do most of the talking.

      I was only surprised that the BBC bosses hadn’t done it sooner when her show was cancelled.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    Times : Crisis as Europe is running out of everyday drugs
    Pharmacies across Europe are running out of drugs such as painkillers, antibiotics and other basic medicines due to acute bottlenecks in deliveries from Asia.
    Denmark has run out of more than a thousand medicines. German and Swedish stocks very low. Ditto UK.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, will the BBC mention that news about medicines and the EU countries involved?

      No?

      I thought not.

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    • Payne by name says:

      Surely not, I thought it was only the UK that was going to run out of medicines, water, sandwiches, hope, sunshine…

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  20. Not Gwent says:

    Bias?

    I read a bit about the XR success against the police on State Broadcaster’s up to the minute front page. There was not one word of sympathy for those condemned to have their lives disrupted whenever XR felt like it.

    State Broadcaster loves its causes.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It’s pathetic.

      Our local bbc radio is all excited about it on Facebook.

      Why? Hundreds of miles away.

      #CCBGB

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    • EmptyingDadsShed says:

      I often comment on the Beeb in house paper, Guardian, suggesting that the XR protestors demonstrate in their hometown, disrupt their neighbours, familly and friends, the local shops and businesses,as far as I can tell no one has.

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  21. theisland says:

    Tom Watson standing down as Labour Deputy Leader and MP.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50325666

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  22. Fedup2 says:

    Could I guess that something is about to come out about Mr Watson which has led to this ? So much talent on the labour front bench to take his place – a shadow home sec who denies anti semitism – Becky wrong daily – starmer who doesn’t know policy – shadow educashon sec who doesn’t do numbers – a business secretary who is anti Israel – a shadow foreign sec who doesn’t like white vans or George crosses but likes money – and a Marxist shadow chancellor who loves the IRA ….

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  23. Celtic_Mist says:

    I have a feeling that we might not hear much about this

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  24. StewGreen says:

    A tweet from Australia’s equivalent of Channel4
    … To me it’s bizarre to call that government “white supremacist”
    .. when of course it does so much for ethnic minorities.
    Whilst at the time doing so much action against white bad guys/criminals.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    Newsnight must surely send a cab for her again after this?

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    • StewGreen says:

      How can you put that up without putting the context
      ..that JHB tweeted that of course Cleverly wasn’t on the Burley show, cos at that time he was booked to be on Julia’s show and that’s where he was.
      So Kay’s empty chair was a diabolical stunt.

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      • Guest Who says:

        I rather assumed that anyone reading this would be well aware of the context from all shared this morning.

        What is remarkable is how successful the media mob have been on social media muddying waters with claim and counter claim, and all manner of industry colleagues RTing what suits.

        At the rate they are going she’ll end up with a BAFTA for it.

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          If the Tories had an ounce of self respect they’d announce they’ll not be appearing on her programme. But I think that very unlikely. Which is why the prospects of me voting for them are becoming very remote, regardless of what bogeymen are threatened may rule in their place.

          If people want to vote based on fake outrage and media gotchas perhaps the country will deserve what it gets.

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          • Payne by name says:

            Well said. We should be voting with our hearts and not our heads. No one is going to listen to people whining in 2 years time when we are still being controlled by the EU and they say “but I voted tactically to keep BoJo in power. How could the Tories have lied to me again?”

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            • theisland says:

              I have been following BrexitCentral for the past few years because for the most part they have been presenting coverage evenly and providing (largely media) links to both sides of the argument. The editors now appear to favour BJ’s BRINO.

              The other day they provided a link to Shanker Singham’s explanation of why Boris’ deal provides the correct ‘pathway’ to getting an FTA with the EU. This is what has convinced the ERG.
              https://brexitcentral.com/trump-and-farage-are-wrong-boris-johnsons-brexit-deal-will-not-hinder-a-uk-us-trade-agreement/
              I know precisely nothing about Economics/trade. so can anyone enlighten me as to the efficacy of this approach?

              Today we have the hurry, hurry get your BRINO before stocks run out approach.
              https://brexitcentral.com/the-johnson-deal-is-not-perfect-but-we-cannot-afford-to-delay-the-brexit-process-any-further/

              My personal view is that the ‘deal’ is (as NF would say) more can-kicking, and dangerous because it relies too much on ‘trust’. And as we know we can’t trust any of them.

              I voted tactically for the first time in 2017 – to no avail. Never again.
              We may as well vote with our gut since it looks like we are screwed anyway.

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    • JimS says:

      “Fifteen feet from where I’m standing” – She’s sitting down!

      ‘Clever’ Rees-Mogg:
      ” I don’t, I don’t think so. I think it the, the tragedy came about because of the cladding leading to the fire racing up the building and then was compounded by the stay-put policy and, …. it seems to me that that is the tragedy of it, that the more one’s read about it over the weekend about the report and about the chances of people surviving if you just ignore what you are told and leave you are so much safer and I think if either of us were in a fire whatever the fire brigade said we would leave a burning building.. it just seems.. the common sense thing to do and it is such a tragedy that didn’t happen, but I don’t think it is anything to do with race or class and indeed I think rather sad to raise these types of points over a great tragedy..”

      An off-the-cuff comment to a direct question, live on air. My hearing isn’t as good as the media’s as apparently he said, “Let the stupid bastards burn, me and my Tory mates will make a killing on the re-build job!”, or something like that.

      Jeremy Vine, today, was trying to make out that the whole of the Conservative party was evil on the basis of the above.

      Fake news doesn’t go far enough, it’s outright libel.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Kay & Adam Boulton word for *Commiecast* who own SlyNews

      JHB works for Murdoch

      Kay Burley: Why I empty-chaired James Cleverly on live TV | Comment | The Times
      Seems KB thought she did have him for a last minute booking for 8:30pm but since he had a firm booking for TalkRadio at 8:40 his team moved her last minute booking to be later.
      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/kay-burley-why-i-empty-chaired-james-cleverly-on-live-tv-87pjlwr9b

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Panorama ..seems it was an hour long vox pop
    Probably curated and edited to push the BBC’s “stop Brexit” campaign.

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  27. Guest Who says:

    Raising claimed impartiality on the BBC is brave, but AN might have a wee point…

    …and this might… should have a bearing on MSM ‘analysis’ given the little gnome steered the whole farce that has brought the country to this point.

    But probably will not.

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  28. Guest Who says:

    BBC Radio Four

    “There are very few musicians who have actually created a genre which has changed the direction of music in this country.

    Of those pioneers, Tricky is probably the fiercest and the feistiest.”

    ***

    Uh huh.

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  29. chancygardner says:

    I’ve awoken in the middle of the night after a horrible dream; Corbyn announcing the success of the Labour party in the twisted way everything is done these days. “We are pleased and proud to announce that we received 100% of the votes cast for the Labour party this election and will continue to fight the corruption and insensitivity of the Tory party who persuaded some misguided voters to vote the wrong way”.

    I think I may have to avoid all reports about the forthcoming election until perhaps the 12th December. A bit like switching on ITV for the recent rugby world cup one minute before the matches started to avoid the inane adverts preceding them.

    It’s stopping me sleeping, this kind of drivel.

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  30. Right Angle says:

    BBBC readers may like to have a look at Stephen Glover’s article on the Boris Bashing Corporation in the Daily Mail:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7658271/STEPHEN-GLOVER-fear-Boris-Bashing-Corporation-sway-election.html

    Unfortunately, it seems that a sizeable proportion of the population still make the BBC their go-to source for news:

    “According to media watchdog Ofcom, BBC1 is the most used source of news for a sizeable 58 per cent of the population. The BBC’s website is consulted by 25 per cent of people for news, while 23 per cent turn to the Corporation’s news channel.

    Meanwhile, the Beeb has a dominant position on radio. Its stations are listened to by 72 per cent of people who get their news from what used to be known as the wireless.”

    His article seems to be fairly balanced (I just skimmed through it), although I would take issue with this statement:

    “With extra power goes extra responsibility, and it’s my contention that in recent days our national broadcaster has shown a worrying lack of balance.”

    Days? Make that decades!

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  31. StewGreen says:

    Irvine Welsh’s : very nasty sweary tweet about JRM
    #FamousLeftyTolerance

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Irvine Welsh is another beauty isn’t he?

      Like Sir Sean Connery, he’d do anything for Scotland but live there.

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  32. Fedup2 says:

    Stew
    Thank you for the link rather than posting the whole tweet here !
    One might assess that mr Welsh was ‘tired and emotional ‘ when he went online for such a rant . There is also the whiff of anti Englishness there .

    Toady watch
    I thought the news that the deputy leader of the Labour Party has suddenly resigned from post and parliament might make lead news –
    But no – they started with a ‘money tree Nonsense story . Pro labour Bias in my book .im putting the house on ‘Dawn Butler ‘ to be the new deputy – because she is both thick and black which are both essential job requirements .

    Then the is the threat from ‘The Far Right ‘.

    A retired senior plod who already has a knighthood is obviously looking for a better job by going on about them threat from the Far Right “.

    Obviously “far right “ isn’t defined so I’d interpret it to be anything which the state broadcaster doesn’t like . No one does a side by side read out of the reality of the number of attacks and mass murders carried out by Muslims versus the number carried out by “the Far Right “. I think you can guess the answer .
    And before anyone jumps in to talk about attacks in Europe I’d posit that that is them and not us .attacks on churches against the number of attacks on mosques could also be included .

    There isn’t any mention that this ex plod makes his unevidenced assertion 2 days after the terrorist threat level was reduced as a General Election gets going . Now what’s that about ?

    As for the Kay Burley empty chair job from yesterday I suppose today there will be a 10 second semi apology or nothing ….

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    • Guest Who says:

      Small segment from the Moaning Emole:

      ***

      Labour deputy leader Tom Watson steps down and will not stand for Parliament. (No fallout? – Ed)

      BBC Wales’ Felicity Evans assesses the fallout for the Tories from Alun Cairns’ resignation as Welsh secretary. (Oodles of assessable fallout, apparently)

      Polling analyst Prof Sir John Curtice examines whether Brexit really is the big issue on the doorstep. (Guessing just the Leave scum…. Professor… Sir?)

      Your Questions Answered: Our new series endeavours to give readers the election information they need. (Uh-huh)

      This one fields queries from students. (Uh-huh)

      Missed what happened on Wednesday? Here’s a quick recap (Evil Tories! Evil Tories! Evil Tories! Tom Watson… Saint and weight watch hero. Don’t mention the noncefinder general awks issues).

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    • The Sage says:

      We never seem to have anyone interviewed who might represent this so-called far-right and to put forward their points of view only those critical or claiming to know how the evil far right operates are on air.

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  33. StewGreen says:

    If Labour get a female leader
    and then Labour win a general election she will be Britain’s FIRST female PM apparently
    … Lansman’s Momementum logic

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    • StewGreen says:

      Labour act like THEY OWN ethnic minorities
      #ThatsPatronising

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady watch 2

      I never thought I’d ever say “ listen to the Today Programme “ . But if you want to hear a gobsmacking interview catch the one which was at about 0715 today with the Labour MP for Dudley explaining why he is leaving the Labour Party and why comrade Corbyn is unfit to be PM .

      He was interviewed by Robinson who was desperate to smear him and undermine what he was saying . It’s about 8 minutes and deserves a repeat .

      After this came the traitor Heidi Allen who has stood down as an MP before being slaughtered and now scheming to -with just about anyone -to stop Brexit .
      She obviously got an easy time despite having no political legitimacy at all .

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  34. Cassandra says:

    Report on Toady this morning (around 6.15 am). Matha interviewed a retired security ‘expert’. He said that lack of integration by ‘certain’ communities is responsible for the increase of “right wing” groups.
    The ‘communities’ were not identified by name.
    Let me help Martha and the retired ‘security expert’:
    Uncontrolled mass immigration
    Illegal mass immigration
    Terrorist attacks and murders
    Barbaric animal slaughter
    The grooming of young white, Sikh and Hindu girls by this group
    Having six or more children per family
    Rapid increase in population size, to the extent that experts predict this will be the largest ‘community’ in the UK sometime in the next thirty years
    Polygamous marriages
    The demand placed on social housing
    The demand placed on schools
    The demand placed on the NHS
    75% of this group claim benefits; 90% of the women from this group live on benefits
    Mass importation of spouses
    Living in the UK for 40+ years and not learning English
    Changing the values and beliefs of UK society to those of the country they originally come from
    Mass voter/postal fraud
    ‘Honour’ killings
    Forced marriages
    FGM
    First cousin marriages which result in huge rise of birth deformities
    Hiding of facial identity by wearing clothing that covers the body
    Importing of drugs
    Although born in the UK, children of this group speak in the accent of the places that their parents and grandparents came from.
    Imposition of the demands of their religion on UK secular society
    Raping and murder in the name of their religion
    Slavery and trafficking
    Changing the face of beautiful places like Paris with street shanty towns, violence, riots, murder and mass ‘prayer’ meetings (look at Speakers Corner in London).

    Like Martha and her expert, I won’t mention the name of this ‘community’. I’m sure it will be difficult but you will eventually identify the name of this community for yourself.

    Have you guessed the name of the ‘community’ yet, Martha?

    (Feel free to add anything I may have missed.)

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Well said Cassandra . And very comprehensive. The ‘ anti Far Right industry ‘ must be very lucrative with conferences and sponsored projects all over the place .
      The security expert was aN x plod called Rolly who is trying to get an edge in a crowded field .

      Since he is now a private citizen – and presumably not privy to the secret stuff he had whilst a plod – one wonders where he gets his justification.

      Also – he kept saying that people were joining the Far Right. Is there a political party ? Does he just mean being a Tory ? He wasn’t asked to explain that – because it’s not a question that citizen could answer .
      What he really means is ordinary British people who haven’t arrived from the third world in the last few decades getting fed up with ‘ vibrancy ‘.

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    • Guest Who says:

      The bbc does like its opinion ‘formers’.

      With luck they will soon join the club.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        BBC news reports a care home in Wales being raided by the plod for ‘ slavery ‘ . I have a personal interest in care homes because the people in them need good care and attention and In too many cases don’t get what they deserve .
        Any way – a quick check on the care home reveals the CQC did a report on it in May 2019 and found it ‘ ok’ . The person responsible for the care home does not have a Welsh or English name ….

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Toady again

          Bombshell morning for the Labour Party / state broadcaster – following the resignation of the deputy leader and the troubling interview of a labour mp about Corbyn earlier

          So the Labour Party puts up Rebecca long bailey for the big 0810 interview and guess what – ? She wasn’t in the studio or ‘ radio car ‘ but on a mobile phone .

          Which – guess what ? There were technical issues and the interview didn’t go ahead .

          One has to be quite attuned to the methods labour/BBC use to avoid broadcasting stuff which doesn’t fit into their view of the world .

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, an investigation into ‘Free Movement’ and Care Homes and trafficking might yield interesting results.

          The BBC with a £3.4bn (but declining) income and a vast roster of journalists might do a thorough, Panorama-style, investigation.

          Or not.

          I wonder why?

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Here’s one important characteristic that was missed about a certain “community”:
      Complete and unquestioning support from the BBC and MSM

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    • G says:

      Cassandra,
      This ‘rise of the right’ is, as we all come to expect, is a ‘Red Herring’. If the security services / BBC were right, there would be a balance of Home Office Proscribed Organisations which were, “Far Right”, surely? But no.
      Take a look at the Governments list:
      https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/proscribed-terror-groups-or-organisations–2
      Got to be 99% muslim I’m afraid. “Far Right” BBC? Dream on…………..

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      • Terminal Moraine says:

        G, thanks for posting this. Out of the 75 groups (excl. NI), I count 3 which are not related to Islamic causes and only one of those originating in the UK (National Action).

        I’d like to see a graph showing actual risk vs. amount of media coverage — it would make for interesting viewing.

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    • JimS says:

      “Have you guessed the name of the ‘community’ yet, Martha?”

      Bideford?

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    • Banania says:

      Cassandra: Very useful checklist, thank you.

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  35. Fedup2 says:

    Poor Martha
    She interviewed Rebecca Wrong Daily at 0825 and spent most of the time talking about the labour money tree . Then got round at the end to Tom Watson . Bailey was on the Labour NEC when she supported the vote to abolish the post of deputy leader . So no friend of Mr Watson …..

    She got the easiest interview you could want and the Labour HQ must be putting in ‘thank you ‘ phone calls to the Toady editorial office .

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  36. Guest Who says:

    Maybe Trade Descriptions can get on this being headed ‘Media Masters’?

    “ James Harding
    Co-Founder and Editor, Tortoise Media

    James Harding is co-founder and editor of Tortoise Media. Starting at the Financial Times on the European desk, he later opened their bureau in Shanghai before covering the media beat. In 2007, he moved on to the Times where, at 38, he became its youngest ever editor. He was ousted by owner Rupert Murdoch five years later, and moved on to the BBC as director of news and current affairs. In this in-depth interview, James argues that the demand for breaking news has led to “headline addiction”, explains how their ‘ThinkIn’ conferences are creating a more open form of journalism which puts the emphasis on context and depth, and describes the moment he decided to leave the BBC to launch Tortoise on Kickstarter – despite being tipped to become Director-General.”

    Given everything he has been near has been utter pants.

    Maybe BBC fact check can confirm that?

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  37. Fedup2 says:

    Not BBC but ,,,

    The Jewish Chronicle carries a piece on its front page this weekend addressed to all Britons . It’s about anti semitism and the Labour Leadership . It’s worth a read – I’m writing about it here because the MSM won’t be making people aware of it . I found it on Twitter and any techy here might link it .

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    • JimS says:

      Oh I’m sure Jeremy Vine will be covering it this lunchtime – “Should Jeremy Corbyn take no further part in this election?” – “Is the Labour party intrinsically anti-semitic?”. Two Labour supporters will be there to support the narrative and to explain why they hate their own party and don’t think anyone should ever vote for it.

      Well he would, if the programme was ‘balanced’.

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Jim – why don’t we all write in to him and suggest it? That should make his day.

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  38. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Is everyone getting ready for the vote.

    The one where you vote for a party you do not want to try and stop a party that you dislike more.

    What a great way of voting in a government.

    If only we had a system where your vote actually counted for something.

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    • Payne by name says:

      That’s why I’m voting with my heart. This tactical voting nonsense and clamouring to desert the Brexit Party is getting on my tits.

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  39. davylars says:

    Ian Austin, Gordon Brown”s former press secretary and Labour MP, says Jeremy Corbyn is unfit to be Labour leader or PM

    After an emotional interview on BBC breakfast from Ian Austin Charlie State does his best to defend Corbyn but the damage is done.
    As can be seen from this image I captured after the interview.

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    Just look at their faces….

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  40. pugnazious says:

    Soooo…Labour’s Deputy Leader jumps ship because of what Corbyn has done to the Labour Party and Ian Austin, who similarly fled ‘Labour’ due to the malign Corbyn effect, makes what a BBC political journalist said were ‘astonishing comments’ about Corbyn, and yet….what is Nicky Campbell wanting to talk about this morning? Nicky Campbell is talking about ‘Britbox’ which the BBC et al are launching today…so an extended advert for the BBC product rather than addressing ‘astonishing’ statements by an ex-Labour MP and the resignation of a senior Labour MP.

    What was the ‘astonishing’ statement made by Ian Austin? He stated that Labour voters should vote for Boris…why?…because Corbyn was unfit to lead….Corbyn doesn’t love this country, he is unpatriotic, he supports this countries enemies, he supported the IRA, he supports Islamic terrorist groups, he supported Putin when Russia was killing people on our streets…and of course he’s anti-semitic.

    Powerful and damning accusations,, all the more so because they are absolutely, provably true and yet….the BBC reports it but doesn’t report it….you might think, if it was Boris say, this would be generating a huge amount of covergae and discussion….but no.

    Fair enough the BBC reported this at length in its 0800 news but somehow missed out the ‘bombshell’ main part that explained exactly why he thought Corbyn unfit….the BBC merely saying he said Corbyn was unpatriotic and had allowed anti-semitism to flourish in the Party….so reported it at length…without actually telling us the juicy details.
    The website is even worse…it has the story on the frontpage but look at it and it is nothing but a fw lines that barely quote a word Austin said….more space going to other people commenting on his statement…

    General Election 2019: Voters should back PM – ex Labour MP

    ‘Labour voters should support Boris Johnson in the general election, Independent MP Ian Austin has said.

    The former Labour minister, who resigned from the party in February, said Jeremy Corbyn was “completely unfit to lead our country”.’

    That’s it…followed immediately by…

    ‘Asked about his comments, Labour’s Rebecca Long Bailey said telling people to vote Conservative was “absurd”.

    She said Mr Austin had done “great work” as an MP but added that it was “no secret” that he had differences with the Labour leader. ‘

    The BBC of course has never wanted to challenge Corbyn on his views and his ‘friends’ [The BBC laughably remaining silent in 2017 as Corbyn suddenly became the chief cheerleader for the police and security services and was suitably outraged by terrorism…lol]….probably because the BBC itself has the exact saem views….ably demonstrated by Nick Robinson, the man who called Gaza the word’s worst and biggest open prison not long ago, and who this morning expressed surprise that ian Austin would tell people to vote for a ‘posh old Etonian’ rather than Corbyn….you know, Corbyn, the terrorist cheerleader who supports this country’s enemies and helps foster an anti-semitic narrative across the country.

    Biggest crime you can have…being a ‘posh old Etonian’….lol.

    Looking on the BBC politics and Robinson’s twitter feed the Corbynistas are out in force flooding the comments with disdain for Austin and the BBC.

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  41. pugnazious says:

    Kay Burley has lined up some new guests to interview….

    The posh old Etonian Jacob Rees Mogg model……

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    The Corbyn ‘swivel all ways’ chair..

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    The Alt-Right supporter…

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    The Brexit supporter…

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    The Remoaner’s platform….

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    The LGBTQDIYFU diversity chair set…

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  42. Square-Eyed says:

    What are the differences in philosophy between the political Right and the Left?

    Beth Still offers some interesting observations in the clip below. Naturally enough her examples and applications are American, but I think they offer useful insights into the situation and trends over here.

    Beth begins at about 2:01.

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  43. G.W.F. says:

    Bristol NHS Trust to withhold treatment from racists and sexists.
    Why introduce this when there are already provisions for removing abusive patients?
    Answer. The thin end of the wedge. Soon, a complaint from Tell Mama, Hope Not Hate or David Cameron’s comrades in the UAF may be sufficient to ensure you die.

    I recall an elderly relative of mine who had been in the services during the war and went on about it to the yang ethic nurses. A week on the Liverpool Death Pathway sorted her out.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-50286473

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  44. Up2snuff says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/election-2019-50319044

    Oh, the irony!

    The BBC web-site excels again this a.m. with another hilarious juxtaposition. Look on the right hand side of page. Features Box, (under Top Stories box) items four and five. Am sorry, but I have no way of posting a pdf screen grab for you.

    Be quick, it may get changed when the BBC realise the significance.

    Or maybe not? No self-awareness?

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  45. StewGreen says:

    I can’t see Burley’s Times article right now
    but tweeters say she doesn’t come out well
    At 8:30am in her Empty-Chair-Stunt she gave the impression that he was in her building but had bottled out of the interview “he’s only 15 ft away”
    I pick up bits from tweets
    \\When you give your own side of the story and yet still come out looking incredibly petty and vindictive….

    Kay Burley admits she hadn’t booked James.
    “we saw James Cleverly, the party chairman appear on one of our rival channels from the exact same building we were in.
    One of my team cantered two floors down to ask if he would also appear on our programme.”

    The SlyNews breakfast pantomime show with Pantomime Dame Kay Burley

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  46. Sluff says:

    G’day readers.
    Bear with me.
    Mrs S was driving to her hotel in Melbourne, Australia, the other day when one of her tooth veneers fell off.
    Luckily a few minutes later she passed a ‘medical and dentistry centre’ on a trading estate.
    She went in. Could she get an emergency dentist appointment to fix the veneer back on, with what amounts in simple terms to be special glue ?
    No need for an emergency mate, there is a walk -in service.
    Within 40 minutes she had been seen, evaluated, and treated.
    Now this is admittedly private paid-for treatment but much dental care in the UK is paid for. And the basic consultation fee of around £30 is not so much worse than the £20 ‘free NHS’ cost.
    Oh, and did I mention ? There was a calm climate in the centre. Little or no queue. The receptionist (a muslim actually) was charming. And in the same private clinic there were GPs, physio, an X ray department, and a minor injuries unit to take the strain off A and E. With a good, free car park outside. It’s not free at the point of delivery, but nearly all the costs are paid for out of medicare, which is in effect compulsory health insurance paid out of hypothecated income tax. In fact, a high quality, community-based provision.
    And Australia spends only about the same on healthcare as does the NHS.
    I mention all of this because John Curtice reckons many voters still see the NHS as a bigger election issue than Brexit.
    But what 70 years of state brainwashing does to the brain cells is to render them too lazy to picture even the remotest possibility of different and better ways of doing things.
    This morning in the UK by contrast I queued at 0750 in the cold and wind outside my GP health centre as did a dozen others, all waiting for the door to open at 0800 in order to secure an appointment on the day. And millions of people seem to think the solution is to throw more money into the system, and so gullibly respond to politicians eager to appease them by providing those billions uncritically.
    How pathetic have we become ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Lower queues … Australian policy is to offshore migrants boats
      thus most boats stopped.

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  47. StewGreen says:

    The BBC strive for wokeness and takes its lead from Australian ABC
    Here’s their equivalent of Question Time

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    • StewGreen says:

      She claims civility was invited by white men
      .. Actually I think the idea exists in most countries
      .. do you think Japan is uncivil ?

      Warning : examples of her uncivilty

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    • pugnazious says:

      Yeah right….so she doesn’t want respect, civility, dignity….but just wait till someone doesn’t treat her/it in such a way….if she disagrees with them she tells them to f**k off….so it’s OK for us to tell her to F**k off then? Bet it’s not.

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    • Payne by name says:

      Didn’t she claim in that diatribe that she wanted to “stop being raped and murdered”.

      Yeah love, you’re not dead and hence haven’t been murdered. We have laws to dissuade people from committing rape and murder though she early said that she doesn’t approve of incarceration!!

      So she advocates violence against the patriarchy to get her way but doesn’t agree with punishment for acts of violence.

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  48. StewGreen says:

    Stuchbery thinks he has got a gotcha video of TR
    Except it doesn’t look that way , he’s done TR a favour by publicising it
    And the BBC won’t publicise the amazing amount of HATE you see below the tweet videofrom Stuchbery’s mob

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  49. StewGreen says:

    Breaking : the policeman that tasered the black footballer in the Midlands has been charged with murder.

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  50. Celtic_Mist says:

    I suspect that few would know much about Euromaiden which appears to be about getting Ukraine INTO the EU

    One can find BBC archives but it perhaps didn’t get much coverage

    This stuck on the end of the article might sound familiar –
    /
    Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk said Mr Yanukovych had expressed willingness to hold early elections this year.

    The protests first erupted in November when President Yanukovych rejected a landmark association and trade deal with the EU in favour of closer ties with Russia.

    Since then, the protests have spread across Ukraine, with the demonstrators’ main demand being snap presidential and parliamentary elections.
    /
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26280710

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      2014 Ukrainian revolution
      /
      Successive Ukrainian governments in the 2000s, including that of Yanukovich, sought a closer relationship with the European Union (EU).[35][36] One of the measures meant to achieve this was an association agreement with the European Union[37]
      /
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Ukrainian_revolution

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Celtic:

      As the EU never tires of telling us, it has prevented war in Europe since it was created. Which is true so long as you ignore NATO, and the fact that EU meddling was an important part in bringing about civil war in Yugoslavia and now Ukraine.

      But then as Verhofstadt tells us, the EU is now an Empire, and it is in the nature of Empires to wish to expand. That is why Brexit is such a mortal insult to the EU. If the colonies get the idea they can leave the Empire, where will it end? For the likes of Verhofstadt, life outside the clutches of the EU Empire is literally unthinkable.

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