Midweek Thread 9 October 2019

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  1. Old Goat says:

    That nice Mr. Verhofstadt:


  2. StewGreen says:

    Soros power questions asked in the Times, but not on the BBC


  3. StewGreen says:

    The Democrat angels like Ilhan point at Trump and say look over there he’s one for having affairs


  4. digg says:

    How they play the game!

    The Independent (The BBC’s reference site) trumpet….

    Brexit: Voters are turning against no deal as deadline approaches, poll suggests

    Just a third of voters believe Boris Johnson should crash the UK out of the EU without a deal if he cannot reach an agreement with Brussels over the next three weeks, a poll has revealed.

    (This seems to suggest that it refers to a third of all the voters in the UK)

    However it goes on…

    And voters are turning against no deal as the Halloween deadline approaches, the BMG Research survey for The Independent suggests.

    A quick lookup on BMG research shows they are a private Company and were obviously employed by The Independent for this hit job.


    Only 34 per cent of those questioned back a no-deal departure in these circumstances, compared to a total of 51 per cent who said Mr Johnson should extend negotiations, call a second referendum or call Brexit off – all options which he has ruled out.

    Those questioned… Hmmm who are they then?

    It goes on…

    The survey of more than 1,500 voters between 1 and 4 October found 53 per cent of those expressing an opinion want the UK to Remain in the EU and 47 per cent to Leave.

    So there we have the roots of the story revealed. Only 1500 “voters” and no doubt the survey was probably via the Independent readership (58,000 mainly Academics and Media folk) or so and paid for by the Independent.

    A similar survey of a different 17,000,000+ other “voters” would I think paint a completely different story if asked.

    Just another example of how to puff a narrow attitude of the management team into what they hope becomes influential news in the hope that other lazy media of the same ilk will pick it up and run with it, dropping the small sample size and source along they way

    My guess is that any gullible Independent reader who swallows this fairy tale is in for a shock, we are not the stupid folk they assume….


    Finding this sort of trash in the lefty press is like shooting fish in a barrel. Almost every front page story (not about celebrities) is skewed and biased with a not so subtle “message” or “threat” to all us ordinary folk.

    My response… Just makes us dig in and even more determined to put you all back in your box.


    • maxincony says:


      Brexit: Voters are turning against no deal as deadline approaches, poll suggests


      Opinion poll gives result I don’t like.

      So therefore the polling company is corrupt and the poll is wrong. FACT.


      • digg says:

        So let me rewrite the headline then…

        “Over 50% of almost 1500 of our readers we asked are still against no deal as deadline approaches”


      • Up2snuff says:

        Oh hello maxi. Where is that apology you owe me? You know, the one about that radio programme about Pogroms?


      • MarkyMark says:

        Wednesday 23rd January 2019: Question Time, BBC One and BBC Radio 5 live, 17 January 2019

        Though a YouGov poll published on the day of the programme suggested a lead for the Conservatives, Diane Abbott was right to describe the overall situation as “kind of level pegging”, and we should not have described Labour as “definitely” behind on the basis of a single poll. We should always report voting intention polls in the context of trend.

        This correction was amended on 18 April 2019 following a finding by the Executive Complaints Unit



      • Square-Eyed says:

        Ah maxincony, the Bluebottle of the Biased BBC website. “Take that you swines! Bang, bangee-bangee! Puts James Bond replica plastic pistol back in shoulder holster.”


  5. fakenewswatcher says:

    How do we feel about Turkey’s invasion of N Syria? Trump is keeping a promise, but I’m no fan of Erdogan, would-be Sultan, a cunning little man I wouldn’t trust one bit.
    I recall the Turkish invasion of Cyprus. They haven’t left. Come to that, how did Constantinople become Istanbul? Yup, it’s our old friend, invasion -again. Now it’s Syrias turn.
    I hope the President now keeps his other promise and kicks Turkey’s economy where it hurts.


  6. StewGreen says:

    The court case of two Manchester public school boys where one Molnar killed his friend Yousef in a row about a drug dealer they planned to rob
    “living out idiotic fantasies about being Middle-class gangsters”
    That sounds like they’d been watching BBC’s Peaky Blinders

    The kid was found not guilty in July
    but his name has only been released now cos he just turned 18


  7. StewGreen says:

    Times : Ending religion is a bad idea, says Dawkins
    Next day Richard Dawkins writes ‘you journalist bastards I said Ending religion is a good idea, you’ve twisted my words cos I said religion has some positives’


  8. Guest Who says:

    I shall be interested in how this pans out for the XR spokesperson, assuming AN has researched that outfit and its ambitions properly.

    As for Blair… meh. He’s a very rich laughing stock. Albeit thanks to the bbc.


    • Guest Who says:

      Oh, it’s happened. So far, so…. 🙂

      “You don’t want an election because you fear the outcome, you want a second referendum because you didn’t like the result of the first. What kind of a democrat are you?”

      The BBC’s Andrew Neil challenges ex-UK PM Tony Blair on backing a new Brexit referendum before an election.

      (via BBC Politics) bbc.in/2MkNcCo


      • Guest Who says:

        Now I am confused, looking at my clock.



      • taffman says:

        This nation wants a Parliament that will get us out of the tentacles of the EU , full stop. We voted to Leave, no ifs or buts. The deals will come fast and furious after that .
        The the last referendum to “leave” the Common Market or The European Economic Community in 1975 had either “Yes” or “No”.
        Nothing about hard or soft , or deal or no deal. The losers at that time accepted the decision – Thats democracy Mr Blair , losers consent.

        IMHO Parliament has deliberately delayed and procrastinated for over three years to overturn the democratic wishes of the people by attrition . Parliament has turned its back on democracy and the people that put them there, it does so at its peril.
        Take note Mr Blair and AL Beeb .


    • Guest Who says:

      Ah. Not great then.

      Silly moo.


  9. StewGreen says:

    BBC XR joint project
    For the umpteenth time on the BBC, on again at 10.33 this morning:
    “Who are Extinction Rebellion?”

    “Here’s what you need to know about the growing environmental campaign turning climate activism into a global movement.
    What do they want?
    When do they want it?
    And what do their critics say? ”

    [When you run a story several times, it can’t really be described as news, IMO].

    “Sir David Attenborough renews opposition to York bog home plans”
    [I’m not aware that St David has ever objected to the environmental damage caused by wind turbines].


    • Guest Who says:

      Guess who is on tomorrow night?

      Those ‘academics’ do get about.


    • StewGreen says:

      Have they gone the full Guardian ?
      No, cos over on http://bishophill.squarespace.com/unthreaded?currentPage=2
      Mark lists 11 long articles supporting Climate Alarmists in today’s Guardian


      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        For four years I’ve been skipping most of the posts on climate change on this site. It was an issue that was beyond my ability to judge and I do not do group think. So I kept quiet on the topic and marvelled at the scientific knowledge of everybody else.
        But thanks to the contributions of Richard Pinder, U2snuff and others, I have immersed myself in the topic. My head has been spinning with Milankovitch Cycles, forcing agents, temperature records, broken records etc etc. I’ve examined the stuff from both sides and have to say that the climate sceptic case wins hands down.
        What has shocked me is how obvious a con the climate alarmism is.
        Much more than I could have imagined. While I didn’t have much science at school I think that I was lucky in that I read widely on the solar system and the evolution of the Earth between the ages of eight and twelve. That has come in very useful 60 years later!
        Alas! I move in circles where political correctness reigns supreme and my conclusions have shocked all my friends. Their initial reaction is one of stunned silence. This is usually followed by “The Science is settled” yadda yadda. I don’t back down.
        Am I any happier now that I am a vocal critic of this crazy theory?
        No! That the world has fallen for this lunacy that has now decayed into the anarcho-socialist rebellion called Extinction Rebellion depresses me deeply. I was happier not knowing. But now that I do know I find I do have to speak out about it.
        I shouldn’t be doing this.
        I should be sitting on my verandah in my rocking chair
        How dare you.
        You have stolen my dotage!


        • Richard Pinder says:

          Everyone else in my family is ignorant and not interested. They say something vague like “Climate Change emissions” and I say “it’s a hoax, read one of my books”. Otherwise they could not care less. Also, the Trolls on this site seem to have give up and gone away.

          But a warning, Milankovitch Cycles are not relevant for Climate Change within the last 200 years and the Daily Express has been taken in by the Groupthink https://www.thegwpf.org/content/uploads/2018/02/Groupthink.pdf
          Scientist Piers Corbyn is not part of the Groupthink, but Jeremy is. So look on the Weatheraction website not the Labour Party website.

          Scientists wonder how will reality finally break in?

          This is my guess: Donald Trump takes Boris Johnson on a visit to the 2020 Heartland Institute Conference to shake hands with Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller who proved that the Arrhenius hypothesis was a hoax, because it does not work on planets with carbon dioxide atmospheres. Nikolov and Zeller provided the Greenhouse Effect formula that works for all known planetary atmospheres based on Atmospheric mass, gravity and air pressure first suggested by James Clerk Maxwell in 1888, and confirmed by other scientists using the Ideal Gas Law. Using this Theory and proof from air bubbles in Amber that the Earths Atmosphere was between 3 Bar and 10 Bar at the time of the Dinosaurs, also solves many other scientific questions.

          The BBC goes mad, Lord Hall claiming that trying to impose Glasnost and Perestroika onto the BBC is proof that both Boris Johnson and Donald Trump are Russian spies. Boris abolishes the licence fee and says that the “BBC should be free to view on Freeview”


  10. StewGreen says:

    “At least 19 cars burned, barber shop rocked by EXPLOSION in Stockholm suburb”

    Needless to say, it’s ignored by the BBC, even though its EUrope page does include a Swedish story:
    “Sweden Ebola: Patient tests negative in Malmo hospital”

    Then again, of course European stories such as these are much more important…:
    “Do Latvians really read more Hitler than Harry Potter?”

    Extinction Rebellion protests: ‘This is a last resort’
    [A UK story added to the Europe page, because its SO important].

    Tom Cruise meets Ukrainian president to discuss new film
    Etc, etc, etc


  11. Guest Who says:


    Sorely missed. Who now will maintain the BBC Mason standard of impartiality?


  12. taffman says:

    “Germany gun attacks: At least two killed in Halle shootings”
    One of those “men” again ?


  13. Ed Hitter says:

    The real scandals, the real anti democratic shockers, are not reported on the BBC. Too busy surmising about someone’s thigh being touched many years ago.
    Check out Mail Online (below) or follow Twitter this afternoon and you discover the total anger that’s out there following an admission by the Euro Parliament’s president that he has been having talks with speaker Bercow to stop a “no deal” Brexit.
    Totally against all constitutional norms, showing again that there is traitorous collusion with foreign politicians to deny our democratic rights.
    Yet, not a whisper on the BBC, not even one line on its dedicated Brexit web page,


    • Fedup2 says:

      I know that state broadcaster is biased but to fail to inform the public that the traitor Bercow has interfered with negotiations over brexit by direct contact with the EU is beyond belief .

      Or are they so buried in bias that they don’t realise what treachery this amounts to .


      • maxincony says:


        …to fail to inform the public that the traitor Bercow has interfered with negotiations…

        And your evidence that Bercow has interfered with negotiations is…?


        • Dystopian says:

          Maxincony; “And your evidence that Bercow has interfered with negotiations is?”

          Maxincony clearly supports those who are heavily biased against Brexit and working against the interests of the British people.
          Hence his support for the biased BBC, an organisation who robs from the poor to give to the rich, who clearly have lots in common with the traitor Bercow.


          • Up2snuff says:

            Oh hello maxi. Where is that apology you owe me? You know, the one about that radio programme about Pogroms?


        • Fedup2 says:

          I’m honoured that you ‘engage ‘ me – my ‘evidence ‘ ? The fact that bercow – who you may not realise is the Speaker of The House of Commons and a backbench MP ‘ has talked directly to the President of The Reich EU parliament . There is no mention that this was done with the assent of the government or even the shadow traitor government – therefore he is ‘interfering ‘.

          Perhaps , since you ask me a question which I am answering out of courtesy , you will point me to any bit of Hansard or Erskine May which gives the Speaker the right oR power – in his official capacity to negotiate on our behalf . You might also note that since the president of the European Parliamentbannounced in the chamber that this has happened the Speaker has made no comment , issue no statement explaining the reason for his contact nor the content of it . That in itself speakers volumes for the speaker . Perhaps he will answer to the traitor parliament when it returns .

          As moderator I would delete you from this site because you just turn up at 3 in the morning – do a bit of trolly type question ‘bombs ‘ and then disappear . I don’t expect that when you read this you will respond .

          Despite my view to delete your account whenever I put it to other users to do say they say ‘no – leave maxi alone – he performs a function ‘ . So I leave it there .

          I’m taking it that you approve of the speaker going directly to a foreign state in his official capacity when we are due to leave it in 21 days . ? That he has a democratic mandate to do so – being an overt “remainer “ and thus against the democratic outcome of the Referendum ?

          I look forward to your reply about my response – to what I view as a one line ‘troll’ made for you to get some kind of boost to you ego in recognition that you exist ,


        • lojolondon says:

          No problem – here is my evidence – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFtXzYeOJuE


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Ed & Fed – History seems to show us there is a psychological problem with short men who have big mouths and even bigger ambitions.
      If they don’t get cut down to size (sorry) they become really dangerous.
      In this case he has been encouraged in his delusions of grandeur by the undemocratic impulses in parliament. It likes to say that it is ‘sovereign’ (stuff the people), and he thinks that -as speaker- he is the embodiment of that sovereignty. I wonder how our actual sovereign would feel, if she cottoned on?
      Since democracy is now relatively unimportant, what with this grandious, disconnected, semi-divine body in Westminster, floating in glorious isolation far above common mortals, the PM (one of those mortals) is now a lesser being. He can safely be cut out of the loop.
      We now have this sequence in power, in our new, very unwritten constitution:
      1)the speaker;
      2) H.M. The Queen;
      3)The P.M.
      Our Public Broadcaster is very much on the side of this new constitutional arrangement. I doubt they will enlighten the sweaty masses, in their smelly nightrobes, preoccupied with ‘Eastenders’, Strictly, wimmins football etc etc.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Fake – I’m very tall and used to be quite good natured . Therefore I have had extensive experience of ‘small man disease’ and a sad inferiority some short chaps internalise in their lives . I never hit one despite so many deserving it .

        As for the hierarchy ? I cannot see the Queen accepting Bercow at the Palace to be her Prime Minister . The rest of the world really would wonder what the hell has happened here .

        As I wrote yesterday as I watched parliament being closed for a few days – the false traditions and wigs and gowns and Latin and French seem ridiculous in a place where democracy had been killed .


      • Richard Pinder says:

        No you are wrong. The order of sovereignty is now:
        (1st)  The President of the European Parliament
        (2nd) The Speaker of the Puppet Parliament of Remainers
        (3rd) The Queen of the Imprisoned Nation
        (4th) The Prime Minister of the People


      • Dystopian says:

        I wonder if Maxincony is vertically challenged he seems to have similar traits.


    • maxincony says:

      Ed Hitter,

      …following an admission by the Euro Parliament’s president that he has been having talks with speaker Bercow to stop a “no deal” Brexit.

      How easy it is; to lead people up the garden path. You’ve been duped.

      Read the Daily Mail article again. See if you can find the part where David Sassoli says he’s been having talks with Bercow; “to stop a ‘no deal’ Brexit”.


  14. fakenewswatcher says:

    ITV news treated us to Magid Magid, with his yellow baseball cap back to front, and his camouflage jacket, in the European parliament. Green Party. No hip-hop or rap ‘music’ in the background, he didn’t come prepared.
    If I needed a reason not to vote Green (which I don’t) it must be him.


    • Backlash says:

      What a feckin disgrace he is…and he’s not green, he’s black.


      • maxincony says:


        What a feckin disgrace he is…and he’s not green, he’s black.

        BiasedBBC is not a racist website.”


        • LastChanceSaloon says:

          Latest weather.
          Record levels of rainfall in Scandinavia.
          Flooding of rivers in Northern Norway has caused widespread evacuations from beneath bridges.
          Some Norwegians left their homes in such a hurry that they were unable to take so much as an argument with them.


        • Dystopian says:

          Stating facts is not racism. If someone is white they are not green either.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Oh hello maxi. Where is that apology you owe me? You know, the one about that radio programme about Pogroms?


  15. taffman says:

    “AMs back Senedd Cymru/Welsh Parliament for new assembly name”
    Why do they waste money and time on this topic when the hospitals and schools are in a mess ?
    Time for a referendum on the abolition of the White Elephant .


    • Richard Pinder says:

      That Welshman from Hull with the working class Yorkshire accent, the Right Honourable The Lord Prescott, tried to give us a Witan Deira/Yorkshire Parliament in 2004.


  16. taffman says:

    “Thomas Cook buyers pledge to save 555 shops and 2,500 jobs”
    Despite Brexit ? Did Al Beeb miss a trick here ?
    At leat someone has faith in Blighty .


  17. G.W.F. says:

    Bercow knows what he is doing and so do the BBC.
    He is posing as a credible caretaker PM who is less confrontational and less erratic than Boris, and less extreme than the wicked no dealers. At the right moment the BBC will launch him into his new role


    • Fedup2 says:

      I’ve got to admit I cannot see how Bercow can be seen as a ‘credible caretaker PM ‘to anyone other than the morally bankrupt traitors . MPs who are remainers representing remainer constituencies have some standing – but the rest who stood for parliament on a lie ?

      If the BBC launch Bercow as PM – as you say – I’ll do an Ashdown with his hat .you have to be wrong .


      • taffman says:

        ‘Berco the boiler’ thinks he is Napoleon. He may have great aspirations for Europe ?


  18. StewGreen says:

    You are OK Bercow nobody noticed


  19. Celtic_Mist says:

    The BBC picked a segment out regarding diplomatic immunity.
    However, I guess they can’t fit this into their narrative –



  20. Celtic_Mist says:

    Those listed here don’t hesitate to criticise Trump for Turkey’s actions.
    However, what are they prepared to do to help the Kurds?


  21. Celtic_Mist says:

    Emily shuts him down at the end but does the Turkish ambassador have a point?



  22. Scroblene says:

    Wow, a journo who says it as it is!

    R5 ‘Up all night’, had the usual anti-Brexit, anti-President Trump spittle, but then they went to the papers…

    To hear such candid and unbiased reporting is a rarity these days, but if you have a little time, just listen to this section of the broadcast last night from about 2 hours 30 mins.


    The journalist/specialist(?), is unknown to me, as is the German newspaper, Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung, but Dr Philip Plickert (my spelling), has an exceptional delivery of facts, saying exactly who the real criminals are, telling the unbiased stories, and generally putting the weedy leftie rubbish endured by the British public well into the shade!

    The silence from the autocue-reader’s under-managers and sundry presenters is deafening!


  23. Guest Who says:

    Appears it was another PR triumph for XR.

    Luckily 19,999 other bbc staff, and Maxi, busy elsewhere.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I watched this clip and must say that surely the snowflake outfit could have found someone a bit stronger to support their cause .
      I thought Mr Neil was particularly restrained in his treatment of this lady who obviously had ‘issues’. I wonder if he took the soft line because she was looking for an excuse to ‘walk’ and thus get more publicity for a stupid cause . (I describe it as stupid on purpose ).


    • Guest Who says:

      A key comment AN missed picking up on: “Unfortunately alarmist language works.”

      It is what XR has relied upon from the start, and the BBC has delivered on every platform since.


  24. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Yesterday on BBBC.
    Bercow plotting with the EU.
    Hammond Plotting with the EU.
    Grieve Plotting with the EU.
    Verhofstadt gloating because “The UK will have to stay”.
    Varadkar breaks a pledge and denies it.

    Last week


    Are you listening remain voters?
    Do you hear any bells ringing remain voters, bells about previous EU referenda being ignored, reversed and sidestepped?
    Hands over your ears remain voters, you do not want to hear the truth.

    The EU is a totalitarian organisation determined to be a totalitarian state.
    The EU has never negotitiated in good faith with the UK, it has probably never negotiated in good faith with any EU member state.

    No they are not listening, in la la lefty land.

    A Guardian editorial, which I suggest BBBC users ignore.
    [That Guardian which AFAIK has not reported the latest Bercow treason revelation]
    The current Brexit impasse is 100% the fault of Boris Johnson.
    Naturally EU history is studiously ignored, in this, apparently written by Saint Greta, nonsense.

    From a comment
    “Mark Alexander.
    … In my opinion, the EU has shown us remarkable patience. In addition, they have bent over backwards to accommodate our ‘special’ needs and wishes.
    Yet they are derided for having done so. What do these Brexiteers expect?”

    If you genuinely believe that Mark, you are an ignorant dope.

    Remainiac is exactly the correct term for these ignoramuses, page after page of useful idiots, parrotting what they have been told by the Ministry of Truth.
    EU good, Brexit Bad. EU good, Brexit Bad. Until I stopped from exhaustion.


  25. Fedup2 says:

    Being good biased socialists the state broadcaster interviews the head science advisor – Dame Aunty someone –
    She wants to ban eating and wants to increase taxes on sweets . There must be other thing she wants to ban . So easy for remaining freedoms to be given up isn’t it ?

    And as an end line ‘ lives are at risk ‘ because of Brexit . I fear it’s actually people losing the will to live because of the 500 traitors and their lies .

    Still not much on Bercow becoming PM is there ?

    The health bit was followed by some piece about ‘ child gender’ which means the off switch came into action .


    • Guest Who says:

      BBC Moaning Emole refers…

      Ban and tax our way out of obesity – top doctor

      Could it be curtains for the buffet car? Banning snacks on public transport is just one way England’s departing chief medical officer, Dame Sally Davies, reckons the government could act to prevent childhood obesity. Others include tobacco-style plain packaging for junk food, a calorie cap for restaurant meals, adding VAT to products like cakes, and banning advertising of unhealthy food. If the measures sound extreme, so do the figures. The proportion of children deemed obese by their final year of primary school has quadrupled since 1990, with about a third of all year six pupils classed as overweight or obese. The health secretary says ministers will study the recommendations “closely”. But the railway trolley of drinks and light refreshments might be around for a while yet. Prime Minister Boris Johnson has previously expressed scepticism about measures such as so-called sin taxes.

      Ban! Tax!

      Maybe XR can get Zion on Breakfast with Naga to see the PR get a ‘proper’ airing?

      Maybe the so-called national news broadcaster could ask Dame Sally how many kids hit the buffet car on an Intercity?


      • Fedup2 says:

        Maybe they should just ban chicken shops to prevent kids being groomed as well as getting fat . Free public transport was also a bad idea . Make them walk .


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        Missing from all the Lefty messages, is, of course, personal responsibilty.
        Because the Lefties want to make all the decisions.
        I see young barrels of lard every day.

        The older fatties seem to all be Labour Party members.
        Is that why they have multiple votes, twice as much of them?

        I have a class photograph from junior school taken c1953.
        42 pupils plus teacher in the photograph, one fatty, two chubbies.

        Let them become obese, have poor health and die young, it’s what Darwin would have wanted.
        Next to no fatties on University Challenge.


      • Ian Rushlow says:

        It’s particular grinding how the BBC fawningly refers to this super-annuated Nannyist as ‘Dame Sally’, as though she is some much-loved character of the British people. The only ‘Dame’ this could reasonably done with is Dame Edna Everage. But here’s a more practical suggestion: ban the BBC from promoting and encouraging obese women, which it does with regular monotony, pushing the message that it is okay for women to be super-fat. It is not necessary to push actual fat shaming messages, just stop glorifying it. Not only are these women setting themselves up for future health problems, they are burdening the Beloved NHS (c) BBC and may also run the risk of other future dangers:


      • Up2snuff says:

        Guest, that woman is a menace, a Nazi, a Fascist, a Socialist!


      • JamesArthur says:

        An easier solution – get Brexit done
        Because as we are told by the BBC all of the food supply issues will soon have the fatties slim again and with no toilet paper they won’t want to eat and with no cars they will have to walk…


        • Up2snuff says:

          JA, LOL x 10! Brilliant!


          • BRISSLES says:

            Personally I hope a ban IS put in place for eating on public transport – and not for obesity/health reasons either. The noxious smell of a greasy burger, or the repugnant pong of someone’s Pot Noodle in the same carriage is enough to make me ‘heave’. Smoking has been outlawed, and so should snacking – especially on local trains, when you cant move for the empty sandwich containers, crisp packets and coke cans littering the walkway.
            Its not tolerated on European trains, so why should we put up with it here.


  26. digg says:

    Here we go again on the “dictate what we should do” merry go round.


    Bigwig Health Supremo Dame Sally Davies pontificates:

    “Snacking should be banned on public transport and extra taxes placed on unhealthy foods to tackle child obesity, England’s outgoing chief medical officer says.”

    Wiki……As of 2015, Davies was paid a salary of between £210,000 and £214,999 by the department, making her one of the 328 most highly paid people in the British public sector at that time.

    Maybe she should try living on National Minimum wage for a year with kids to feed before she blurts this stuff out…


    • Up2snuff says:

      digg, the ebola epidemic of a few years ago very nearly spread from Africa to the UK because Dame Sally Davies was more interested in banning smoking in the open air in the UK than in ensuring that awful disease could not reach our shores.

      On the plus side, she is a very good reason and a good advert for why conservatism, true conservatism, should make a big comeback in the UK.


  27. Guest Who says:

    Also in the mole the miserier…


    ‘Night the Berlin Wall fell was the worst of my life’

    It’s one of the most bizarre guided tours I’ve ever been on. I’m driving around Berlin with Egon Krenz – the last communist leader of East Germany. “This avenue used to be Stalinallee!” he tells me as we head down Karl-Marx-Allee. “They renamed it after Stalin died. And over there was Lenin Square. There was a big Lenin statue. But they took it down.”

    He looks out of the window and smiles… “I love Russia and I loved the Soviet Union,” he tells me. “I still have many connections there. The GDR was a child of the Soviet Union. The USSR stood by the GDR’s cradle. And, sadly, it also stood by its deathbed.”

    Read full report >

    Steve Rosenberg
    BBC News
    Bet Steve and the gang back at W1A were pretty choked up too.

    I wonder if Jez and Di’s moped d’amore has been bronzed?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – great final line chuckle


      • Fedup2 says:

        I wonder how the idiots screwing up daily life in London would react if they were banned from using commercial airlines when convicted of a crime such as obstruction ?

        After all – they care so much about the climate that it wouldn’t affect them -right ?


        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, I’ve used the OFF Switch a lot this morning, mostly as a form of protest, so my listening to TOADY has been patchy.

          I did catch Nick Robinson pinning Stanley Johnson to the studio wall over flying. Three times Nick asked “Will you stop flying?” and eventually Stanley mumbled “No.” and came up with the lamest of lame (D. Lammy) reasons why he had to keep on flying all over the world: “I give talks on the environment and wildlife.”.

          I found myself wishing that the Johnson family had used considerably more contraception four or five generations ago.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Guest, and some people do not believe me when I try to teach them that Nazism and Communism are exactly the same!


  28. Foscari says:

    Wasn’t it great to Andrew Neil showing us what interviewing
    in a balanced way last night. I wonder if all the the plethora
    of wimmin liberal bigots the BBC now operate with ,were
    watching how political and social interviewing should be done.
    I bet the head of diversity and positive discrimination at the BBC
    were shitting themselves . As a whitey male showed up all of
    their default , impossible to hide personal politics wimmin.


  29. Doobster78 says:

    From the times – John Bercow has been criticised for holding private discussions with the head of the European parliament about avoiding a no-deal Brexit.

    On a day when the Commons Speaker was accused of bias, bullying and stoking intemperate debate by several of the MPs hoping to succeed him when he steps down at the end of this month, he also came under fire from Brexiteers, who said that he had embarked on a freelance diplomatic operation.

    David Sassoli, president of the European parliament, told MEPs in Brussels that he had held “fruitful discussions” on delaying Brexit so that there could be a second referendum or an election.

    “Speaker Bercow and I were very much on the same wavelength regarding the importance of the roles of our respective…


    So why aren’t Boris + Co DEMANDING to see details of these discussions etc. Because if it was the other way round, Bercow and his fellow traitors , including Gina Miller would be in the Courts today demanding a judge calls for all details to be released from the meetings !!!!

    Again , if the other way round, all these Remainiac MP’s would be all over it and use some weird parliamentry law from 1689 to make sure it doesnt happen.

    Why is it the Leave side just let the Remainers walk all over them and never give them a taste of their own medicine.


    • G says:

      “So why aren’t Boris + Co DEMANDING to see details of these discussions etc. Because if it was the other way round, Bercow and his fellow traitors , including Gina Miller would be in the Courts today demanding a judge calls for all details to be released from the meetings !!!!”
      More importantly, obtaining an injunction to stop the little sh*t from any further contact with the enemy.


  30. Up2snuff says:

    On a day of more Brexit gloom, just to cheer up all the Brexiteers on here and give any reading & posting Remainers a bit of a chuckle, too, I have discovered a note I made around the time of a financial failure of a football club:

    BBC ‘sports talk’

    “They are looking for someone who could run the club going forward.”

    Wonder what Brian Clough would have said in response to that?

    I think I know.


    • JimS says:

      Not so silly really, we have a surfeit of people capable of theoretically running things backwards – “If only we had done this..”

      I like the story of the magaging director and his finance director driving along a mountain road with a the mountain rising on one side and steeply falling away on the other. A stone shatters the windscreen, obliterating the view forward. The finance director says, “Don’t worry, I will look out of the rear window and tell you where we have been”.


  31. Guest Who says:

    Media ‘Master’
    Jeremy Bowen
    BBC Middle East Editor

    Jeremy Bowen is the BBC’s Middle East editor. One of Britain’s best-known war correspondents, over the last 35 years he has brought the region’s most important stories to our screens – despite being shot, robbed at gunpoint, threatened, arrested and even thrown in jail. In this in-depth interview, Jeremy relives some of his most pivotal moments, from his first foreign assignment covering the invasion of Kuwait in 1990 to his recent battle with cancer; discusses the practical challenges of reporting impartially on issues like Israel, when both sides complain every report is biased and even the choice of individual words have to be taken carefully; and takes us behind the scenes of his interview with Syrian president Bashar al-Assad.

    Wonder if he’ll mention when even the bbc had to tell him to not be quite so bent.


    • Fedup2 says:

      There is a 5 minute segment on twitter showing President Trumps’ thinking on overseas involvement . He basically says bringing back Americans in coffins isn’t worth the cost when there is no ‘ win’ .

      The state broadcaster journos moan and groan about Turks and Kurds but don’t say who should send their kids to ‘ deal ‘ with it .

      I also don’t understand why any Islamic State murderers are still alive – but that’s just me .


  32. taffman says:

    “AMs back renaming Welsh Assembly to Senedd Cymru and Welsh Parliament”
    …………And our Welsh ‘White Elephant’ goes lumbering on. Never mind the state of the national health in Wales or ignore the poor standards of education in this small nation, what do they sneak in under the ‘smoke screen’ of Nationalism ?………..
    “AMs also reiterated their support for votes for 16 and 17-year-olds in assembly elections”.
    That means kids that can’t even sort out their bedrooms , get influenced by film and pop stars and brainwashed by teachers that we know are all lefty socialists, get to choose our government. Remember that these kids that can’t be named in murder cases , have never had a job and cannot be sent to war to defend the nation may be able to vote for our next MPs.
    Time this ‘White Elephant’ was ‘put down’ .
    Great Britain is riddled with a creeping bureaucracy.


  33. MarkyMark says:

    NHS … “Delivering same-sex accommodation September 2019”

    Every patient has the right to receive high quality care that is safe and effective and
    respects their privacy and dignity. This is one of the guiding principles of the NHS
    Constitution and is at the core of local NHS visions. This Delivering Same-Sex
    Accommodation guidance updates and replaces previous guidance
    (PL/CNO/2009/2 and PL/CNO/2010/3) on requirements around recognising,
    reporting and eliminating breaches.


  34. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I see that Lisa Nandy is on Remainer time again.

    She seems to be popping up on just about every tv political show such as politics live and Peston.

    I wonder what her constituency thinks about her being permanently on tv instead of doing her parliamentary and constituency work.

    They’ve also got one of those ER types on.
    I suppose they need him on now as the world is ending soon and he won’t be available what with the studio being underwater .


  35. G says:

    A concise summary of any ‘cunning plans’ Boris might conceive in an attempt to circumvent or, thwart the so-called, ‘Benn Act’, as outlined by a Constitutional expert.
    Part 1 –
    Conclusion on Part 1 – Boris is stuffed.
    But note item 3 of Part 1 importantly. That would surely apply to Bercow who appears to be, “Out on a frolic of his own” but nevertheless, he can be seen as a ‘Public Officer’ and acting as such.
    Part 2 –
    Conclusion on Part 2 -Boris is again stuffed.


    • tarien says:

      Martin Howe QC’s analysis of Parliament’s and the Supreme Court’s “thwart Brexit” moves
      A devastating summation by a highly-experienced and respected Queen’s Counsel
      • On Parliament: “It is clear that the current Parliament is no longer legitimate”
      • On the Benn Act: “This is a constitutionally illegitimate law”
      • On the Supreme Court: “This is rule by politicised judges which contradicts and undermines the rule of law”
      For a top barrister and Head of Chambers to make the statements he does in this speech is almost unprecedented. In his speech Martin Howe declares the current Parliament to be illegitimate, the Benn Act to be a “constitutionally illegitimate law”, and calls for the Supreme Court in its current form to be abolished. This is heavyweight stuff from a man like him.
      Whether Remainer MPs agree with him or not – and of course they will not – we suggest that Mr Howe’s clear and unambiguous statements cannot be ignored.
      What a sad indictment of how those who could not respect a democratic decision by the British people have traduced our traditions, our constitutional norms, our laws, and our democracy itself.
      It is only by finally enacting the will of the people, and by the UK leaving the EU in 21 days’ time, that we can start the process of slowly rebuilding our great country.
      Mr Howe is absolutely correct.
      We do not have a ‘Parliament’ at the moment. We have squatters, and they need to be removed so that we can restore our democracy. Our Constitution that they have left in tatters, along with respect for ‘the law’.
      85% of MPs stood on manifestos to respect and implement the referendum result to leave the EU, yet once elected have done everything, including abusing our Constitution like spiv conmen, to undermine, subvert and; overturn that decision. That is obtaining public office by fraud. Intention to deceive.
      They refuse to dissolve themselves and face the electorate.
      We have seen the open collusion by many with a foreign power to undermine and subvert our democracy. They need to be escorted from the premises and repay every penny ‘earned’ since the election.
      We know not quite how many are in receipt of slush funds from vested interests in the foreign power, but we should


      • Fedup2 says:

        Nicely said tarien – and you may be honoured by a cut and paste troll addressing you at 3am on Friday …..


  36. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC web-site goes from worse to worser. This is from the News (news!) Page directly accessed by top menu bar from the Home Page:

    Taken in a clockwise order starting stop right in the section marked Full Story (yes, really) –
    ‘What do you do with £170m?’
    ‘The IS prisoners no-one wants’
    ‘How selling citizenship is now big business’
    ‘YouTuber highlights the importance of kindness’
    ‘I filled a room with my little ponies’
    ‘Fall of Berlin Wall was worst night of my life’

    Does no-one with a brain and some Editorial oversight work in the upper levels of the BBC? Does no-one with authority look at this and think ‘We cannot let that go out from the BBC.’ ?

    The BBC is becoming a very expensive joke.

    I’m glad I don’t pay for this rubbish.


  37. Cassandra says:

    Can you read this recent BBC report on skin whitening products. I’m at a loss because it appears that the BBC have omitted to say who buys these products and the reason these products are purchased.


    I have written this post after reading your last comment where you accused Backlash and this site of being racist. As Dystopian said, “stating a fact is not racist”.

    Let me assist you in answering my own question by asking you to read this Daily Mirror report:


    “A nationwide investigation by Trading Standards officers into online sales of the creams, which are popular among some ethnic minority groups, has uncovered a frightening number of traders flogging toxic concoctions.”

    Say what you like about The Daily Mirror, at least it has presented all the key facts.

    I want BBC News, a national and international broadcaster, to give me all the relevant facts and provide me with a story that is factually accurate but I’m afraid the national broadcaster does not do this. It regularly distorts and omits key facts and information, often to reinforce the agenda that it is imposing on it’s viewers and listeners.

    Am I being a racist Maxiconey if I say I find it disgraceful that my licence fee money is used to fund the BBC Pidgin English channel?

    This story about how a rapper proclaiming how Juju has benefitted his life may have meaning for you Maxiconey but it doesn’t for me, mainly because I don’t understand it.



    • taffman says:

      The Licence that robs from the poor to give to the rich, maxi loves it so much that he ‘works nights’ supporting it to keep the rich in their lifestyle.
      When did you last pay your licence maxi?


  38. tarien says:

    You and I have known for a long time that there is a limited time left for the European Union to survive and here is one very poignant reason why-“EU budget for the future – EU budget financing” This has been released for discussion at the EU Council Summit which British Prime Minister Boris Johnson is due to attend next week.
    The results make for shocking reading and perhaps show why the EU is so keen to keep the UK in the EU for many years to come.
    • After allowing for inflation, Brexit will account for 21% of the increase in the EU’s next budget from Jan 2021
    • The total real increase is proposed to be €324 billion
    • €41 billion (21%) of this increase is because EU27 countries have to pay more, based on the UK’s exit
    • A new carbon/plastics tax is proposed to be introduced at EU level, to fund the EU
    • EU Defence spending is set to rocket
    • All rebates are to be abolished, meaning richer countries like the UK would pay far more
    • The cost for the EU due to Brexit does not even include the EU’s ‘off-budget’ spend, worth billions
    Below we show how much the EU Commission will lose on a Clean Break Brexit :-
    The loss of their legally-unsubstantiated claim of a minimum €45bn ‘divorce bill’;
    plus the loss they have now revealed for the next budget period.
    What does the EU say?
    In its report, the EU frames the figures in such a way that “Around 1/8th [of the increased budget] is due to Brexit”. In fact, the EU reveals that this is not based on real numbers after allowing for inflation. When put in real terms, after inflation, the true impact is that more than one-fifth of the increase in the EU budget will be down to the UK leaving the EU. It is also worth mentioning that the EU’s proposed budget expects an economic growth of 23% over the period. With most economic assessments now putting the EU’s powerhouse German economy in recession when it reports next month, this growth figure may well prove to be optimistic.
    Well one very good reason the UK is getting out and without a deal will suit us better than with anything the EU can drag up-With one major source of income for the EU going, another creeping into recession and another teeteting on the brink, a collapse is quite likely on the cards. However we must keep silenced, those duplicitous little shits wanting to remain and drag the UK down into the mire of nothingness.


    • Up2snuff says:

      tarien, as maxi is about, I would just say I think you need to check some of your sums and facts above. I could be wrong, your research may be more thorough than the dim recall I have from memory.

      For example, the EU is funded from VAT, not from indirects. They could change that rule, of course, but I haven’t heard any proposals to that end.

      Further harmonisation of VAT practice is scheduled for the next Budget and had UK voted Remain or is forced to stay in the EU against its will, we will have to take an increasing part in that.

      Replacement of the UK’s net contribution would be at a rate of about £12bn*/€varies w/forex for the other net contributor nations over a five** year Budget, not €41 billion.

      * or whatever the new net contribution would have been set at, should we be forced to stay

      ** did I hear via the BBC that this time it is to be a seven year EU budget?


  39. Doobster78 says:

    Exactly Andy. They all say they are really keen to fight Boris in a General Election BUT none of them have the guts to allow one. They know full well Boris would win comfortably .

    Their delaying tactics have actually, in my view, worked against them in a bigger way than i could i have hoped . Most normal folk can see Boris is doing his best despite the best attempts of the likes of the BBC to block him at every turn and the public , more and more are now seeing that these fanatical remainer MP’s are just complete r soles.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Doobs, I sure hope so but I have my doubts about the competence of Bojo and Cummings.

      So do Rod Liddle and Nigel Farage.

      The Conservatives under Bojo have already junked their ‘fiscal confidence’ advantage over Labour.


  40. john in cheshire says:

    I have just read this on the Gatestone Institute website.
    The relentless war of attrition by muslims against us is manifest in such matters as these; the ‘ conditioning’ ( my word) of reports in the MSM on muslim activities.

    I don’t suppose the racist far-left bbc has covered this subject? It seems to me they are already conforming to the guidelines.



    • vlad says:

      In a nutshell: Islamo-creep is now becoming Islamo-gallop.

      With the suicidal and treacherous complicity of the press and press regulators.

      I hate to be a prophet of doom, but the slide towards the islamisation of this country, with the silencing of any opposition thereto, now seems unstoppable.

      Get your Jizya ready.


  41. taffman says:

    Skip the headline ………………
    “However, the economy grew in the three months to the end of August, indicating that the UK can avoid a recession.”
    Wot no Brexit ?


  42. Fedup2 says:

    I was looking on the state broadcaster website for wide coverage of the traitor speaker and his interaction with the `reich EU – I couldn’t find it but came across a bit about the lady Lord provost of Glasgow being called on to resign for billing the taxpayer £8000 in expenses for clothing she bought to do her job .

    There was an any questions type panel and one of the apologists for the lady said that wimmin need more clothes than men and posh frocks . The audience – presumably vetted – stayed silent -so the apologist got away with it only to be hit with a line that people in public life should dress like those they represent …..


  43. theisland says:

    More of this please.


  44. Guest Who says:

    Better than nothing, but one staff member actually doing their job vs. 20,000 others actively not doing theirs still looks like a problem.


    Since when was ‘flat out lying’ a Charter requirement?


    • john in cheshire says:

      I think the racist far-left bbc was roped into propaganda production as part of the WW2 war effort and they’ve been at it ever since.

      Could it be an example of unintended consequences. Maybe it was useful to our national security while we were at war but someone should have stopped it once the war was over. Or perhaps the racist far-left bbc hierarchy and their fellow swamp rats think they are still at war. And their enemy is now we the indigenous citizens of the UK.


    • Guest Who says:

      Or for that matter ‘Omission to the point of censorship’?



  45. fakenewswatcher says:

    I am still solidly of the opinion that, once parliament had decided to give the voter the choice to leave/remain in the referendum, and the voter chose to leave, the Executive was tasked with implementing the decision.
    Parliament (the legislature) did not come into the picture at all, until after the departure, when the Executive would have placed before it the many legislative tasks now required.
    It was only when the Tories elected a Remainer to implement Brexit that a ‘no’ to Europe suddenly turned into all kinds of previously unmentioned options: were we saying no to the Single Market, The Customs Union, a ‘deal’ etc? Very cleverly, she took everything back to parliament at the negotiation stage. And the Remainer Civil Service actually did much of the negotiating, anyway. The Remainer Public broadcaster kept us up to date.
    Now parliament had the say, and the Executive faded into the background, awaiting its permission to do x, y and z. Added to that mix was the Remainer ‘Supreme Court’ run by Lady Hale, which now had to decide whether the pro-leave executive under Boris, or the Remainer parliament was more important.
    In addition, the Remainer speaker took it unto himself to make up as he went along, deciding what could, and what could not, be discussed.
    And so we get to where we are now. thoroughly emasculated and in chaos. Germany and much of Europe is stuffed, as the matriarchy takes a firm grip of things. The Merkels, v.d. Leyens, Kramp-Karrenbauers have taken over. And our brief fling with the matriarchy has ended in disaster for us. We are left with the Swinsons, the Soubrys, the Lucases, the Lady Hales, and the many wimmin, who now dominate at the beeb to play a big role in our fate.


  46. Doobster78 says:

    Wonder if David could explain why Boris and his No Deal Brexit policy are surging in the polls then ?? Why Conservatives have a massive lead over Labour and Lib Dems and why if he is so sure Britain is now against Brexit, does he not want a election ??????

    Idiot, grade A, bell !!!!!!!!


  47. Square-Eyed says:

    I’ve just switched on R2 and heard a news item that the new £20 note will feature the artist JMW Turner and his famous picture “The Fighting Temeraire.” Apparently it depicts “a scene from the Battle of Trafalgar.” Presumably this came via the BBC Fact Checker.


    • Guest Who says:

      Do Greta or Rupert know?

      Pretty sure Virgin Galactic is overhead too.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I think their fact-checker will correctly find it came from the battle of Waterloo where Mel Gibson valiantly beat Winston Churchill .


    • Old Goat says:

      Interesting that the subject of that painting was being towed back into the Thames by a new-fangled steamer, having been almost destroyed at Trafalgar…


  48. G says:

    ‘Extinction Rebellion’?
    CPS – “Terrorism” –
    “Terrorism is the use or threat of action, both in and outside of the UK, designed to influence any international government organisation or to intimidate the public. It must also be for the purpose of advancing a political, religious, racial or ideological cause.”
    ‘Terrorism’ is fully defined in the Terrorism Act 2000.
    So why is not ER on the list of proscribed organisations?
    Here is the Government list of 76 proscribed organisations to 12th April 2019. Excluding Northern Ireland (and we know all too well that issue), it is worth flicking through the names and objectives of the 76. I count two which are not related to islam: Basque separatists and National Action.
    Of National Action, I quote the Governments description:
    “National Action is a racist neo-Nazi group that was established in 2013. It has a number of branches across the UK, which conduct provocative street demonstrations and stunts aimed at intimidating local communities. Its activities and propaganda materials are particularly aimed at recruiting young people.”
    All really serious stuff, particularly when compared to similar Government proscribed groups like Al Qa’ida, Boko Haram and Hizballah. If this comparison does not make a total mockery of the claim that the, ‘Far Right’ are as much a problem for the security services as islamic groups, I don’t know what will.
    May I indulge you a little further by linking Extinction Rebellion with the description of National Action? –
    ‘Extinction Rebellion has a number of branches across the UK, which conduct provocative street demonstrations and stunts aimed at intimidating local communities. Its activities and propaganda materials are particularly aimed at recruiting young people.’
    But there again, we have come to expect lies and inaction from politicians and in particular those who run the Home Office.


    • The WestWyvern says:

      Fed, all
      Excellent repostes today focused upon the max incontinent troll and it’s lefty bias and BBC remainer drivel.I’m glad to see that we are now pushing back and calling out these blithering traitors, idiots, scumbags for what they are.
      The left don’t like it up em, that’s for sure. Let’s keep it up!


      • Fedup2 says:

        The west
        Yes hear hear – I’m staying up really late tonight eager to read our resident cut and paste troll replies to comments ….

        World as one – Lady Brooke displayed a fascinating mind set about the EU having a chat to some mouthpiece from the reich about turkey and Kurds and Syria. She kept saying “ we “ in relation to the EU – without much recognition that in 21 days it won’t be “ we “ it will be “ them “ ….


  49. fakenewswatcher says:

    I notice in the Express, Jo Swinson, with her 19 MPs, feels she is important enough to go and speak with Verhofstadt.
    With Bercow having set the tone, I suppose that every Tom, Dick and Harry will now rush over to the EU. to undermine democracy.
    Or -to bring that up to date- should that be every Harriet, Emily and Caroline?


  50. john in cheshire says:

    With reference to the climate change scam, I just want to post this article by Anthony Watts which goes some way to revealing the true reasons behind the evil UN promotion of climate change; it’s part of their plans to install a world government: