Start the Week Thread 7 October 2019

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  1. Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

    11:41 BBC News: the attractive female presenting it shows her fantastic scholarship, translating two Latin words used by Donald Tusk in a tweet to Boris. Tusk finished his message with “… … Quo vadis?” which she helpfully translated for us as “What do you want?” when what it actually means is “Where are you going?” You don’t need to be a Classical scholar to know this; a moderate level of culture would be enough.

    Pathetic but typical of the BBC.

    P.S. I think “Quid vis?” would be “What do you want?” but my Latin is no more than a well-remembered grade A ‘O’ Level, so I’m happy to be corrected by any experts on this site!

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  2. vlad says:

    “What is knife crime like in your area?” asks the beeb on its Regional pages.

    – Well Mr BBC man, it’s very strange: I keep getting stabbed by black guys with white hands, is it a disease?

    But apart from that, I love the enrichment.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/england/manchester

    Some-322-children-were-caught-with-knives-in-the-West-Midlands-last-yearA-youth-brandishing-a-knife-in-the-street-UK.jpg

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Read some of this and thought it was a blatant attempt to say ‘look, knife crime by white hands isn’t that bad in Londonistan…’
      The definition of ‘knife crime’ given was quite broad, including assaults and threats, so I think that allows for some ‘massaging’ of the stats to suit a desired outcome. It would be more revealing to compare murders by knife/sharp blade.

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  3. Square-Eyed says:

    Hong Kong

    Just a sidelight on the demonstrations there which you’re unlikely to hear from the BBC, or the rest of the MSM for that matter, the significant Christian element.

    Late religious news item: The BBC are reporting sub-zero temperatures in hell.

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  4. JimS says:

    Jeremy Vine giving Extinction Rebellion a free platform on Radio 2 just now.

    Not only is the spokesman not being challeged but Vine is proposing banning patio heaters. Views his own or the BBC’s?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Jim, I could never understand why a Labour Government (1997-2010) allowed those things to proliferate while promoting the brand new Climate Change in addition to Anthropogenic Global Warming.

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  5. JamesArthur says:

    R4 discussion on protesting
    Funny how pro Brexit protesting is always bad bad bad…far right…and not discussed positively on BBC
    But somehow ER and anti Brexit are given positive BBC sugar coating
    Caller now saying the ER protesters were very diverse – hmm not many non whites from what I have seen – given it took place in London
    All callers so far very middle class…..another show that is a waste of public money

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  6. JamesArthur says:

    R4 Call you and yours – discussion on protesting
    Funny how pro Brexit protesting is always bad bad bad…far right…and not discussed positively on BBC
    But somehow ER and anti Brexit are given positive BBC sugar coating
    Caller now saying the ER protesters were very diverse – hmm not many non whites from what I have seen – given it took place in London
    All callers so far very middle class…..another show that is a waste of public money

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    • Tabs says:

      I heard a bit of that. Some old couple from Devon have travelled to London to tell everyone not to travel. The man said, “I was chief electrician at Hinkey B nuclear power…. but now I’m a big anti-nuclear campaigner”.

      Typical white middle class sanctimonious protesters. He didn’t mind taking a wage for working in the nuclear industry but now he is retired he wants to close that industry. I guess they would also like all travel banned… after they get back to Devon safely…. until they need to go somewhere again.

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      • cromwell says:

        I’m sick of the “crusties” spouting that they are doing it for their children and grandchildren. I’d like to turn that argument on its head. How about the fact if the government do all that XR want then their children etc will be picking up the mind blowing debt this country will have and plunge the next generation into poverty paying for it all.

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  7. LastChanceSaloon says:

    From Guido
    XR begging for vegan food before starting hunger strike!
    That will help their credibility.
    CCBGB

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  8. JimS says:

    Fake history from John Humphries on Jeremy Vine. He tells us that the Aberfan tip was built on a spring and that the miners knew about it but the NCB and Robens wouldn’t listen.

    In fact the tip pre-dated Robens, being started in 1958, Robens joining the NCB in 1961.

    Does no-one take personal responsibility in Aberfan? It was people there that built the tip, not Robens in London.

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    • StewGreen says:

      He let him side step the big salary question
      Vines own £700K part time salary was not mentioned either.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      JimS
      I thought the NCB new that the tip was dangerous and moving but just didn’t want to spend money reshaping it to stop it moving . – I read the report a long Time ago so thought Robens was responsible for not taking action before the disaster ….

      It’s off subject but I once had a job which examined why organisations screwed up and why they repeat their mistakes …

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      • JimS says:

        I am no fan of ‘the great and the good’ but it is too easy to blame those at the top when all the way up the line there are people not prepared to stand firm on what they know to be true.

        In the fantasy world of the BBC money is available for everything, or ought to be. In reality people have to work to budgets. Managing the NCB must have been a nightmare.

        When a disaster occurs out pop the judges and journalists to apportion blame from the safety of their warm courts and offices. Any fool can do that but decisions in the real world aren’t that easy. I could save a few bob by not insuring my house. If nothing happens next year then I’m ‘smart’, if something does then I’m ‘stupid’.

        Humphries in particular annoys me because only now is he being ‘wise’ about the goings on at the BBC. Why didn’t he speak out at the time. If ‘everyone’ knew there was a spring at Aberfan why did they start tipping there? Did they just keep quiet and hope it wouldn’t slip?

        It is disgusting how many very well-paid people will keep quiet and not speak out. There was a classic case in the MOD where the procurement boss had been assured by his staff that the Typhoon aircraft was on schedule, then, six months before the target date, he was told that there would now be a two year delay. The HoC select committee was told that this was because of ‘a climate of fear’ i.e. someone at Director General level felt unable to tell his boss that they were running late.

        Without doubt someone at the bottom of the organisation knew that things weren’t right but somewhere up the chain the news was supressed. I rather suspect that the real fault at Aberfan was closer at home. Had it been a purely technical disaster and no-one had been killed I am sure that would have been the conclusion. The fact that so many village children were killed made it emotionally essential that the blame was placed elsewhere.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Jim, I think this …
          “I am no fan of ‘the great and the good’ but it is too easy to blame those at the top when all the way up the line there are people not prepared to stand firm on what they know to be true.”
          … encapsulates the relationship of many UK MPs, Peers and Civil Servants to the EU and why they are so desperate to remain in the EU.

          There is some ‘other’ that can be blamed for legislation or serious calamities or serious mistakes while the UK remains part of the EU.

          When we are out, the buck will be stopping firmly in Westminster and Whitehall.

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  9. StewGreen says:

    XR did it with T-shirts, but you shouldn’t use such vulnerable national monuments for political purposes.
    cos damage can be done.

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  10. G.W.F. says:

    BBC reports of the attempt to save the Earth

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49972208

    The prime minister has described the activists as “unco-operative crusties”.

    Well Prime Minister, that’s really good of you. Thanks a million. Ever thought that you and Priti the Home Secretary might find s way of enforcing the law and freeing up London?

    Governments are supposed to do that sort of thing.
    Boo, suppose Tommy Robinson decided to protest

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    • StewGreen says:

      funny Yorkshire Post say the problem is Tommy Robinson
      today’s pg 4 headline Eco-activists bring day of chaos

      that’s two thirds of the page
      then included in a box at the bottom is
      : EXTREMISM : FAR-RIGHT FIGURES like Tommy Robinson are using rallies
      to spread an “anti-Muslim agenda”
      and “deliberately distort the truth”
      to incite “discriminatory and hateful attitudes” among supporters, says a report.

      Almost all media carry this same wording as if ordered by some Orwellian control office to publish it.

      Another version is “Far-right posing as protectors of women to spread hatred, report reveals ”

      All that is projection
      The truth is on the one side you have 5,000 children raped by grooming/raping gangs, tens of thousands of rapes
      On the other side TR supporters have within them some people that have done bad things,
      .. some may have said some racists things
      … .. but it’s a magnitude of harm is 1% of those who they are protesting against.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Jesus, major Goebbels job here
        …The YP article ended
        The review – based on 3,000 responses to the inquiry, survey data and visits to 20 towns and cities – found that activists working to tackle extremists are being abused rather than supported.
        They have been the subject of racist and sexist abuse, with some facing ‘unacceptable vilification in an attempt to smear and silence counter-extremists’, the report said

        The YP item ends there
        So in that last paragraph is it Tommy Robinson who is being described ?

        No, cos actually other news reports continue
        “Words such as ‘Islamophobic’, a ‘sell-out’ and ‘an Uncle Tom’ have been used, with some telling researchers they have been shunned by family and friends, had events shut down due to safety concerns, been forced to move house, and even received death and rape threats.

        The report states: ‘We are also concerned by the hateful manner with which some Islamists abuse and intimidate Muslims who work to counter Islamist extremism.

        ‘This can involve characterising them as bad Muslims – or even apostates – for ‘selling out’ their perceived group loyalty.

        ‘Secular Bangladeshi bloggers have described it as “deeply upsetting” when they are accused of being anti-Islam for opposing the influence of Islamist groups in their local area.
        ‘We found that the advocacy group CAGE has described Muslim activists with whom it disagrees as ‘native informants’ and ‘Uncle Toms’, terms which we judge to be racist and hateful.
        ….

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        • StewGreen says:

          The Times article was the opposite way round
          It began with the problem of ethnic-Muslim people being demonised if they called out Islamic extremism
          and wrote a lot about that.
          And then mentioned in a passing way that some far-right people were trying to capitalise on problems.

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  11. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    On politics live today Jess Phillips s has just said, if I heard it right, that on the run up to the last election she knocked on 25,000 doors in six weeks and brexit only came up twelve times.

    Assuming she worked 7 days a week that means 595 every day.
    Call it 600 per day and that means 1 every minute for 10 hours non stop for meals etc.
    600 per day for 42 days at 10 hours a time everyday.
    I think she’s not telling the truth.
    Nobody picked her up on this.

    Just out of interest, are there any postmen who can give an idea of how long it would take to deliver 600 letters to different addresses.

    Of course, this does not include any time that a constituent might spend actually talking to Phillips at the door which would increase the 1 minute per door time of the 10 hours non stop door knocking.
    Or maybe nobody would talk to her.

    Edit. Yes, I heard it correct. I rewound and she actually said it.

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    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Having seen Jess Phillips she doesn’t look like she’s skipped many meals (or walked very far), in recent years.

      Out of idle curiosity, why are all the women on the Labour frontbench so massive?

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    • StewGreen says:

      “knock knock, I’m Jess Phillips I’m standing on Labour’s manifesto which says Brexit should be implemented”
      … oh another house with no Brexit question

      On Twitter about 30 people call out her maths
      Her speech is rhetoric , she is not trying to be truthful
      .. she’s just pushing a narrative “only a few of her voters care about getting Brexit done”

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Stew.
        I liked this reply on your link:

        Chirpy
        @Chirpygeezer
        ·
        32m
        Replying to
        @thedsggroup
        She knocked on 25000 doors in 6 weeks? Even if she worked 12 hours a day 7 days a week that’s about 1 door every minute. No wonder only 12 people mentioned Brexit, they didn’t have time before she buggered off to the next one.

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      • infoquest says:

        Stew
        I’m waiting for Paula Sherriff to knock on my door.
        I’ve got a list of questions, begining with what does she think democracy is.
        I’ve never seen her round here.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      EG – brexit only came up 12 times – that’s because only 12 doors she knocked on actually opened….

      It’s funny how the House of Commons brings out certain character traits in super egos like MS Phillips doing her ‘working class’ act .

      Same thing with the teary Heidi Allen one and a choir of SNP England haters .

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    • JimS says:

      I think you have got it wrong.

      You are using maths, which is part of the white supremicist patriarchy.

      Jess Phillips felt like she knocked on 25,000 doors, therefore she did. Feelings, the new facts.

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  12. G.W.F. says:

    Cops taking action against the Climate protesters. Kitchen sink arrested. There was no need to manhandle it, the sink was not resisting arrest.

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    • The General says:

      I see some of them are gluing themselves to railings. Well just leave them there. When they are bursting to go to the loo it will get very interesting/amusing.

      Can just seen the headlines :-

      ” Protesters emit noxious substances into the atmosphere.”

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Do you think they’ve been fitted up with that kitchen ?

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Looking at how these ‘protestors’ will disrupt the lives of anyone whenever and wherever they please, including lying under cars, reminded me of George Wallace.
        Now we often hear about ‘racists’ and ‘white supremacists’, he comes pretty close to actually having been one (although ‘segregation’ was officially his thing).
        He was Governor of Alabama when I was young.
        When protestors started lying down in front of cars, he drawled in his Southern accent: ‘Anyone lying down in front of my car will find it’s the last car they’ll ever be lying down in front of!”
        I think it was his way of saying: “What gives you the right…?”
        I doubt he was serious, but if his attitude were a bit more common, London would start moving again.
        Then again, he was shot and ended up his life in a wheelchair, recanting on his bad past life.
        So, perhaps not so wise.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Fake
          Guido reports grave news that the Monck Street Tesco in Victoria /Westminster ran out of lunchtime sandwiches for the civil servants who work in the area around parliament . Apparently the protesters stopped the delivery van getting through .

          This must be cause for an Emergency Powers Act and a hiring of a water cannon ….where’s that useless mayor ?

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          • fakenewswatcher says:

            Fed – If they’re breaking the law (which I suspect they often are), it should really be a matter for the police?
            They just have to toughen up a bit, the endless limp-wristed caving in to a mob (however just the cause), which takes over whatever it likes, has to stop. People have to get on with their lawful business.
            That’s what made me remember George Wallace.
            On the mayor, I think we are agreed, in fact your wording is reserved. The No1 plod is no better!
            On George W. – He ran for the Presidency as an independent -if memory serves- and did quite well. I chuckle to think what the anti-Trumpers would have made of him! Lotsa fainting in the aisles, no doubt.

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    • Lurkio says:

      Are there no depths to which the protestors will not plumb?

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  13. StewGreen says:

    R4 drama a 2017 repeat where a refugee saves the day.
    whitey gas boiler inspector was too busy to the inspections so he cheated by getting this female refugee accountant to sign as the householder.
    Eventually a fire broke out and a few people died.
    The white male judge at the inquiry couldn’t get immunity for the refugee.
    But white female socialist judge made it a condition of her taking over, that the refugee woman would get immunity.
    Thus justice will be done and whitey man will be jailed.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew please !!! I was just gonna sit down and listen to that . It was going to be the high point of my day .

      And you use the term ‘ refugee ‘ when I’d use ‘ illegal immigrant playing the system ‘ but the remainer broadcasting company won’t make a play about that .

      Also …. apparently a mannequin ( or womannequin) of Greta has been found hanging from a bridge and police are investigating .
      “Penny for the Greta “ ?
      And why hasn’t Greta got the Nobel prize for something by now ? She must be due to turn up at that protest thing where they use a variation on the swastika.

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      • StewGreen says:

        An effigy of Greta Thunberg has been found strung up and hanging from a bridge in Rome.
        Dressed in a yellow poncho, the effigy had Greta’s pigtail braids with a sign in English saying “Greta is your God”.

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  14. s.trubble says:

    Emmanuel,

    I detect a slight flaw in your excellent observation about Jess Phillips and the door knocking ( politics at 12:15 today)

    Where she claims to have knocked 25000 doors……and only twelve
    asked about Brexit.

    Sadly , this could be true , however she knocked on 25000 doors

    24988….. shouted back…***K OFF

    12 answered and and said they’d be voting for Brexit!

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Do people look back and older posts ?
    I just added the new BBC story to the Limburg truck attack thread over on this previous page.
    The BBC buried the new story in their Europe section
    Evidently not as newsworthy as their front page website stories such as:

    Team GB shot putter on Olympic qualification

    Extinction Rebellion: Protesters glue themselves to government building [That was always going to be front-page]

    Lord Provost of Glasgow claimed 23 pairs of shoes on expenses

    How do you breathe less pollution on school run?

    Femtech: Right time, wrong term?

    Canada election: Key moments from the leaders’ debate

    ‘How my son went from gamer to compulsive gambler’

    Can UK bookseller James Daunt revive Barnes & Noble?

    Dream State: From drug addiction to touring the world

    How these workers get healthcare with their groceries
    etc etc.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Another 13 migrant women dead, cos Guardian and liblalaland sells them the dream of immigration
    and fights those sensible people that try to stop it.

    https://www.twitter.com/lorenzo_tondo/status/1181583502040588289

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  17. StewGreen says:

    4pm Radio4 prog repeat just started with excited talk about Wework corp
    …doh you’d think they’d check their repeats
    Wework is now in trouble
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m0003zyk

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  18. Thoughtful says:

    Listening to radio 4 today was a real ordeal with non stop far left propaganda the whole time. Why the cowardly useless incompetent Tories have allowed them to get away with this for so long is beyond me. I think they want to lose power and stay in opposition for as long as possible.

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  19. The General says:

    NOTICE TO BBC, ITV, CHANNEL4,SKY NEWS

    Dear Sirs, Regarding Boris Johnson’s relationship with Jennifer Arcuri

    WE REALLY DON’T CARE !!!!!!!!

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  20. Fedup2 says:

    For anyone wanting a bit of light entertainment Tuesday night – the Parliament channel is showing the Prorogation of the Traitor parliament at 730pm …. there will be singing and dancing and tears and clapping ending with a short 3 hour speech by the Traitor Speaker. He ll be wearing his favourite EU tie.

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  21. Jeff says:

    The media bias towards these climate clowns is now almost laughable.
    There have been excruciating levels of sycophancy on both the Beeb and Sky. It’s as though any journalistic balance, reason or integrity has been abandoned so as to keep in with the woke crowd.
    This afternoon they showed us a bunch of fanatical climate loony teenagers painting skulls to depict our extinction… but they were using aerosol spray cans. No one questioned them, no one picked them up on it. Not that long ago aerosol sprays were supposed to be among the most damaging for the ozone. Seems to have been forgotten…
    A little later I saw a middle aged greenie being interviewed. It was the usual softly, softly, kid gloves approach the BBC adopt when talking to one of their favoured groups.This bloke promoted his argument by telling us that “no less a person than Greta herself agrees with me…” Well, there you go, end of argument. He spoke about this poor autistic kid as though he had quoted Saint Paul. The journalist should have responded “So fxxxing what?!”
    These people have no idea. They’ve been born into an age of affluence and plenty. They’ve never known hunger and never done hard work. They enjoy these demos, it’s a bit of a game. They blow whistles, play drums and get to feel very good about themselves. They get their faces on the telly and become the envy of their friends.
    This fraudulent climate fiasco is a sort of fashionable hysteria encouraged, promoted and perpetuated by a comfortable, self regarding liberal elite.
    And the BBC are their cheerleaders.

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  22. Adezeroonie says:

    The standard of documentary programme making at the BBC has declined. Twenty years ago the programmes were always well assembled whether you liked the content or not. Not these days. For example I watched one of the programmes on the Troubles in N. Ireland and it was disjointed. Early in the programme they covered the Loughgall incident where eight IRA men were killed. Then later on the dead men were appearing in clips talking to camera. Errr…aren’t you dead? And why were we constantly shown the woman presenter walking towards the camera? It wasn’t interesting. Say it as voiceover and show us NI relevancies on the screen.

    Then there is the BBC4 Eugenics series that has just started. Another piece of sub-Gonzo journalism that is too much about the presenter. TBH I deleted episode one after watching for about 10 minutes. It was definitely “our” fault. The Asian lady presenting said that it would be. Did they ever lay the blame on the Fabians? Probably not because they are lefties but I was too bored to find out.

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  23. pugnazious says:

    BBC busy scaremongering about crime and Brexit after a drugs bust…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49973186

    ‘This investigation has got results thanks to cross-border European co-operation.

    Six arrests by Dutch investigators were under the EU’s European Arrest Warrant, which aims to swiftly extradite suspects to face justice in the UK.

    But the UK won’t be able to use this tool if it leaves the EU without a security deal.

    The UK will also, overnight, leave Europol and Eurojust – both of which were involved in this investigation.

    They co-ordinate the sharing of information and evidence that police and prosecutors use to put serious criminals behind bars. ‘

    Hmmmm…..so we won’t have any more drug busts and no more extraditions? So how does the EU manage to cooperate with other non-EU countries?

    https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/security/european-american-authorities-bust-world-s-largest-darknet-marketplace-contraband-n1001651

    ‘European, American authorities bust ‘world’s largest darknet marketplace for contraband”

    ‘European and American investigators have broken up one of the world’s largest online criminal trafficking operations in a series of raids in the United States and Germany, authorities said Friday.
    The men, whose names weren’t released as the ongoing investigation is ongoing, face drug charges in Germany on allegations they administrated the platform where cocaine, heroin and other drugs, as well as forged documents and other illegal materials were sold.

    They have also been charged in the United States, said Ryan White, a prosecutor with the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Los Angeles, who traveled to Germany for the announcement along with FBI and DEA agents.’

    The BBC report is just so much nonsense…biased, misleading pro-EU propaganda from the BBC.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m guessing that any point about the UK being able to do its own style of border control ( more please ) could make it more difficult for the free movement of illegal things, Europeans and others once we are out – was missed in the Remainer Broadcasting Corpse item .

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    • Chalkywhite says:

      The BBC forgot to mention (in its own words on 19 June 2018)
      that:

      “According to the National Crime Agency, other EU members requested the arrest of 14,279 UK-based suspects in 2015-6, up from 1,865 in 2004. The UK made 241 such requests in 2015-6, leading to 150 arrests.”

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44532500

      Hmm: 14,279 v 241. Funny how the BBC forgot about this statistic?

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  24. Alex says:

    The BBC ‘News’ was nothing but a load of snooty, middle class remoaner crap tonight. I won’t even waste any time on discussing the complete joke that is Reporting SNP (Scotland). Can’t believe the public are forced to pay for this biased, leftie shite!

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    • Luckyharry69 says:

      @Alex
      If its any consolation the West Midlands BBC News ( which I hardly EVER watch) tonight was just the same…cringeworthy equality and Diversity.I managed a few minutes……(ironically 30 years ago Nick Owen was OK..funny and worth listening to…he has been ‘radicalised’)

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  25. Guest Who says:

    The Today Programme posted this about four hours ago:

    Meet two child climate activists who lambasted the adults at the UN, decades before Greta Thunberg. So why didn’t the politicians respond back then… and will they now?

    Listen to more: https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p07q9kn4

    (Via BBC World Service)

    ***

    Garnered 12 comments so far, most of which, well…

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  26. theisland says:

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  27. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/oct/08/boris-johnson-ready-to-give-up-on-brexit-deal
    “Tusk accuses Johnson of ‘stupid blame game'”

    The EU will not agree to a deal that allows the UK to REALLY leave the EU, and it is OUR FAULT.

    I think the EU leaders are becoming dereanged, used to having their own way every time.
    Rumplestiltskin foot stamping.
    Well **** them, and their Project.
    The UK should spend some of the £39 billion promoting anti EU political parties on the continent.
    Let us have a new radio channel, called Radio Free Europe, run privately, and let RFE buy the BBC.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The Robert Peston has published on twitter a purported note from a Downing Street spokesman telling EU states the consequence of forcing an extension of A50 when the government doesn’t want it but the traitor parliament does .

      It mentions that those who lock us in to their EU against our will will ‘ go to the back of the queue ‘ ( nice touch – who used that term once upon a time ).

      If it’s a true note the Remainers will go ballistic just as parliament is being shut until next Monday

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        Fedup2
        Let them moan all they like.

        Call their Bluff Boris.
        Refuse to agree to an extension.
        Introduce legislation to bring back hanging.
        Royal Commission into treachery over Brexit.
        Tell the Houses of Traitors that you will return from prison and ensure that as many as possible of them will be going to jail for a long time.

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    • theisland says:

      LCS

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-parliaments-49975508/keir-starmer-pm-descending-into-brexit-blame-game

      Lackey Starmer dutifully echoed his EU master’s voice today in the HoC accusing the government of “descending into a reckless blame game” with the EU over its latest Brexit plans. I think he forgot to use a Latin phrase, but he did say “instead of putting the country first.”
      Which country is that then Keir?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Parliament is shut down – having watched it one can see that the frankly ridiculous ‘ traditions’ in the light of a traitorous upper and lower house are due to be stopped .

        Close that place down and drain the corrupt swamp(where’s Cromwell when we need him )

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  28. G.W.F. says:

    Some children are more equal than others

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  29. Jeff says:

    They’re making an awful lot of fuss about Extinction Rebellion.
    The demonstrators are given a lot of air time. The journo’s are all very sympathetic to the cause. They’re never asked tough questions, it would seem impolite. They let the protesters speak at length. They don’t disagree, dispute or interrupt them.
    I wonder if they’ll be quite so sensitive on November 1st if there’s an Extension Rebellion.
    I think we all know the answer to that…

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  30. StewGreen says:

    Re prorogation judges
    The claim came up the other day
    ‘oh them judges most of them are on EU money , cos they do some work for the European court’
    OK that sounds plausible
    but the first thing is that the European Court isn’t anything to do with the EU,
    Secondly in the Fullfact check they found, that only two judges are on work list
    and 2 further ones used to be.
    And far from getting a salary they only get paid if they are called for work.
    And one of the two on the work list has never been called in , and the other one hasn’t done that many days.
    10 days work would get him £4,500 but he’s earned nothing like the £175K figure thrown around

    BTW FF had to offer a correction cos initially they said only one was on the work list
    “Two of the Supreme Court judges (Lady Arden and Lord Reed) are ad hoc judges of the European Court of Human Rights. The Supreme Court told us Lord Carnwath and Lord Kerr had also been ad hoc judges.”

    AFAIK they might have loads of other financial interests in the EU, but hardly any of their income comes from the European Court.
    https://fullfact.org/online/supreme-court-no-EU-stipend/

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – I see the source of this ‘information ‘ comes from an out fit partially funded by the Remainer Nuffield Foundation – he who pays the piper

      That was a corrupt judgement by a political court

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        The Judges of the Supreme Court would be at home with Extinction Rebellion on the streets of London.

        As with the Supreme Court, Extinction Rebellion are a hideously white bunch of safe and protected middle class people. Where’s the diversity? Chris Packham of the BBC was on the London streets as an Extinction Rebellion member. He should have walked to Brixton nearby and brought back some black guys with him.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Well it seems a biased judgement cos the lower court
        judged the other way.
        But Fullfact showed that the judges weren’t as directly corrupt as the big £175K claim made them out to be.

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  31. Guest Who says:

    Well, at least it keeps them off Boris, Brexit or Don for a while.

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  32. Foscari says:

    Ladies football -Portugal-England. And this is the default position
    for BBC TV sport now. For a laugh just watch the “highlights.”
    Of course the other defaults. Are positive discrimination”
    diversity and “educating” us with their liberal bigotry.

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  33. Celtic_Mist says:

    “Ben Stokes is currently the bookies favourite to be BBC Sports Personality of the Year, and there were calls for him to be knighted after the Ashes

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  34. Dover Sentry says:

    The role of Dominic Cummings with regard to a successful Brexit tends to be overlooked. The man is a genius, and I’m sure that he will continue beyond the end of Brexit Wars. The BBC are next, so I hear.

    This video was recorded in 2018. He speaks of his aims and frustrations regarding Brexit. I don’t think that he and Farage are politically compatible, but we should thank both of them.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Here is another London Elite stuck in his bubble, compeltely clueless (like most of the Tories) about the rest of the country.

      If he thinks Farage is popular with only a small number of people and massively unpopular with the large majority then he is allowing the London leftist liberal elite to delude him.

      One of the best thing which could perhaps happen to the UK is to force the idiots out of London to meet for at least 9 months of the year in Birmingham, Manchester or Leeds, along with the senior leftist civil servants, and that way we might just stand a ghost of a chance of the loons returning back to Earth !

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  35. Dover Sentry says:

    Jacob Rees-Mogg questions Guy Verhofstadt over EU & their inflexible ‘Irish Border’ stance:

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Mr Jacob Mogg there hypocritically questioning Guy Verhofstadt on rule bending and ignoring.

      Mr Mogg perhaps you can explain why your cowardly useless incompetent party can completely ignore the law which your own party instituted that the national broadcaster should be impartial and unbiased?

      It seems to me that the cowardly useless incompetent Tories are every bit as bad as the EU they are criticising and I can’t wait for Corbyns mob of Fascists to tax people like Rees Mogg out of existence because it’s all they deserve for their cowardice.

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  36. scribblingscribe says:

    Beth Rigby on Sky drearily explains how evil Boris is pumping up the blame game. She is backed by quotes from those she breathlessly idolises in the EU.

    All while Sky viewers think, hang on, for over 2 years Beth Rigby has presented the EU blame game, always directed at the dreadful UK government.

    Can only mean one thing, the UK is always wrong, the EU are always victims.

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  37. StewGreen says:

    BBC Inside Out progs from 9th Sept are just about to get Wiped
    WestMids made a seg about educating children about Carbon footprint
    ..actually the teacher said “The Climate Crisis”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m0008drm/inside-out-west-midlands-09092019
    about 10 minutes in for another 10 mins
    – They found a butcher to say he approves of reducing red meat
    – They had a feature on cycling ..just filler
    the item was pure propaganda

    BBC Northeast said ‘ooh look Nottingham is a CLEAN AIR city , cos it’s met gov targets with a £60m work carplace tax and used that money to pay for electric or cleaner bus ‘
    Factory owner says “not impressed with my £7K tax”
    Next Germany
    60 cities breach EU limits
    … trying to reduce NOx by enforcing 30Km/h speed limit
    Newcastle : road tolls got ruled out cos of a public backlash

    BBC East : Bacton ; new protection from coastal erosion
    £22m for sanscaping building huge sandwall in front
    which will last 15-20 years
    Dutch idea
    In Holland they built a semi-circle sand dune half a mile in radius going out into the sea
    to protect coastal properties.

    Up the coast one bloke lost his neighbours as the cliffs eroded, so he’s winched his own house another 10m inland
    ==============

    South edition : Margate has this amazing abandoned Lido
    Boarded up in 1978
    There was a male pool at the top not much left
    but then there’s a huge complex underground
    in caves and carved out of the rocks
    First there is an abandoned 1000 person ballroom/nightclub
    then below that was the women’s bathing caves with opening to let the view in through the cliff.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Inside Out East Midlands 09/09/2019
      “Concerns that age has become a barrier to reporting hate crime attacks”
      This item was never run even though it’s in the blurb

      West
      “We reveal the shocking rise in reports of gay hate crime across the region”
      Bristol Pride etc. etc.

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  38. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Deal essentially impossible, No 10 source says after PM-Merkel call”
    “Hands up if all this stuff about “spokesman” and “sources” is driving you bonkers? Here’s the in-brief explanation of how it works at Westminster”…………………….
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49970267
    Chris Mason tell us all why “spokesman” and “sources” are the terms they often use ? A point I have brought up a number of times on this site .
    IMHO “The lady doth protest too much, methinks”.

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  39. Dover Sentry says:

    The end of Brexit in a positive way is hopefully in sight.

    Perhaps we can now turn our thoughts towards an end to the BBC?

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  40. Celtic_Mist says:

    BBC World News on the Trump impeachment is factually accurate but where they go for opinion?

    https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/daily-beast/

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  41. JamesG says:

    Nigel Farage and Rod Liddle in conversation. An interesting watch in my opinion.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      James, thanks for putting that up. Very interesting indeed.

      That little phrase: ‘clean break Brexit’ has been running around in my head for a few days (may have used it in a post or two here) and I was interested to hear it crop up in that conversation, too.

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  42. Up2snuff says:

    Retrospective TOADY Watch #1 – Tuesdays’ timorous beasties

    M/s Heidi Allen MP (ex-Con) (ex-CHUK) (ex-Ind) (now-IllibUnDem) feels that she has the backing of her constituents for her latest political Party polka as she dances across the House of Commons. She certainly has the backing of Mishal who doesn’t interrupt, doesn’t hassle and doesn’t talk over M/s Allen.

    A meeting of minds with Mishal?

    A more rigorous Presenter would have pinned M/s Allen to the studio wall with questions “If you are so confident of your standing with the voters of South Cambridgeshire, why do you not do the honest thing and test this supposed, this imagined backing at a By-Election?” and “Surely, if you have any integrity whatsoever, you would test whether your constituents really want an MP who has dithered between Parties and now denies democracy?” and “Are you not deceiving voters by adopting one manifesto at a General Election by switching manifestos mid-term?”

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  43. Up2snuff says:

    Retrospective TOADY Watch #2 – Tuesdays’ bashing by bully Mishal

    Mishal is rather rougher with Raab, Dominic, MP (Con) – and certain about it, unlike her earlier interview of M/s Allen MP (ex-Con) (ex-CHUK) (ex-Ind) (now-IllibUnDem) – so interrupts, talks over him and pays no attention whatsoever to his answers.

    Mr Raab is robust and withstands the withering fire.

    He could have made the point that many people, MPs, Civil Servants and the MainStreamMedia are doing things to undermine our democracy, and undermine the Governments negotiating position with the EU and overturn Brexit.

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  44. G.W.F. says:

    Skotch judges delay over Boris’s letter.

    They have left it open BBC says: The judges haven’t agreed to intervene and sign the Brexit letter on the prime minister’s behalf – but importantly, nor have they ruled out such a move.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-scotland-politics-49975066
    ———————

    Yes, because the BBC know very well that this court is a remainer court and will deliver a remain verdict as soon as they can.

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