366 Responses to Start the Week Thread 7 October 2019

  1. smoogie7 says:


    Anyway, the battle commences this week. What will Boris do next? I just want all this to be over but of course the enemy are lurking in the shadows watching our every move. Their loyal supporters at the BBC will of course spin everything to fit their narrative.

    The Tories however have taken a healthy 15 point lead in the polls. Are the Britons finally sick to death of the remain alliance and ready to embrace what could be an exciting chapter in our county’s history or has the gates of Downing Street been left unlocked for Corbyn to march through?

    This time next month will be a very different mood for this country and I prey that it is a good mood for us. Otherwise if it is not the UK that leaves the EU, it is the soul that leaves the UK!

    Have a good week!


    • The General says:

      Yes and Liberals are down 5% so Jo Swinson will have to put on her tightest sweater to bring that around.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Sir! You noticed …… . . .

        Of course, it could just be the BBC web-site Picture Editors who go for those strictly particular angle-of-view shots from the freelances & Picture Agencies.


      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Sorry, pressed report by mistake.
        Page jumping up as I tried to press newer comments.
        Please ignore report fed up.


    • StewGreen says:

      Backlinks to Weekend thread
      page 3 started 4pm Sunday to 2am Monday
      page 2


  2. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Opinion Immigration and asylum

    “Europeans in Britain used to feel at home. Now they have their doubts
    Nick Cohen”

    Millions of British people used to feel at home in the UK, not any more.

    Without any attempt to consult the populace the Political Parties decided to import millions of people who were not needed.

    Few of the imports were from the Far East with high IQs and a long history of culture and achievement.

    One major import group has been the enemy of Europeans for fifteen hundred years, and has demonstrated they are unfit to live in the UK with the worst gang rapes in history and an unending series of murders. This group believe they are superior to everyone else!

    Another major import group is from Africa where they have a long history of achieving very little. This group commits more crime in every society unfortunate to be enriched by them.

    Very recently the Labour Party Conference passed a motion approving unlimited immigration into the UK. Unlimited.

    This enrichment is just one example of the hate and disgust shown by every prominent person in the UK.
    For twenty years their has been a policy of not showing white people in the media.
    White people are on TV merely to be disparaged and mocked.
    Fifty years of conspiracy worldwide.

    From a comment
    “jazzdrum 19h ago
    I`m not sure why anyone would want to come live in Britain those days.
    The latest polls show the conservatives leading 15% over Labour after 10 years of austerity inflicted upon a docile public”

    British people have been betrayed, as have other Europeans.
    The Democrats in the USA are also trying to betray white people, importing voters and bribing them with benefits.

    Brexit is just the beginning, major societal changes will occur in the UK.
    Since the so-called “elite” will not only not protect us but are working to exterminate us, we will need new leaders who will protect us.


    • Oaknash says:

      And none of this would have been possible without the complicit (both overt and covert) co-operation of the MSM and in particular the BBC.

      To say this vile organisation makes me feel sick is an understatement.

      I expect as some of our new countrymen are giving Aunties LGBTDDT free flying lessons off the top of the Londinstan Eye, the BBC will still be waxing lyrical about the joys of “vibrant” diversity.

      And the irony of all ironies is that once these illegitimate s have made much of this country uninhabitable for normal people, they have the financial clout and qualifications to just move elsewhere and repeat the whole sickening process.


      • john in cheshire says:

        The unions have also cooperated in the importation of so many invaders, cynically betraying their members.


  3. Cassandra says:

    The BBC has spent literally hundreds of hours devoted to these ‘children’. Someone has spotted the flaw in the BBC logic:



    • Guest Who says:

      Greta is currently in North Dakota negotiating oil deals with JR. Apparently.


      • Sluff says:

        And very worryingly, Corbyn would give the one on the left the vote from age 16.


        • LastChanceSaloon says:

          Corbyn would give both children in the LH picture the vote!
          With free advice on how to vote multiple times.


        • smoogie7 says:

          Corbyn would give anyone a vote. The irony is that most people know better than to vote for him


    • G says:

      Never mind the intention of the Marxists Corbyn/McDonnell to lower voting age to deliver, them, a healthy voting majority.


  4. Fedup2 says:

    Vintage stuff
    A state broadcaster reporter ‘found’ a group of elederly ‘respectable’ middle class people from The Extinction Rebellion
    Protest group .
    They all sounded ‘nice ‘ and they are all planning to come to London to screw it up to stop things from melting and they are going to stop the climate from changing .

    Next Richard Walton – an ex top plod – was interviewed about his view of extinction Rebellion – only to be spiked by allegations that his think tank is funded by ‘oil’.

    Apparently Extinction Rebellion aims to screw up the ‘system ‘ using thousands of law breakings to undermine the legal system . Judging by the way the state broadcaster promotes the cause – extinction rebellion has a very good press department with – maybe an office in the state broadcaster HQ..

    Perhaps this frankly dumb outfit is a model for what might come if large numbers of people protest about Brexit being removed .

    As for the useful idiots from Totnes – I’m sure the burglars of that place will be eager to see nice people heading for London to make breaking into their homes easier….


    • john in cheshire says:

      I’m sure I read that international criminal, allegedly, George Soros, is funding these climate troublemakers, in part if not in toto.

      And I’ve read articles, that I now cannot find unfortunately, showing that the UN was a key driving force in settiing up and promoting the climate scam.


  5. Guest Who says:

    You can take the hive mind out of the bbc…



    • JimS says:

      “John Humphrys: next BBC director general must be female.”

      I thought the DG already was!

      (Aren’t all ‘men’ at the BBC EUnuchs, homosexual or transgender?)


      • john in cheshire says:

        Jon, eff the Tories, Snow White at channel 4 refers to himself as metrosexual which I’m assuming covers all the categories that you mention.

        What’s the old saying that old soldiers never die they simply fade away?
        There must be a similar saying for ex-members of the racist far-left bbc collective. The difference being they don’t fade away they keep coming back like the smell from a well visited portaloo.


  6. Deborah says:

    Today programme, Monday morning, I have lasted seconds. When I heard Mr Robinson telling me there would be horrible things in our peanut butter and insects in our paprika if it is imported into the U.K. after Brexit and then said ‘Here is Barry Gardener’, I switched off. Who is more desperate, Labour or the BBC? Just for the record I haven’t heard that thousands are dying in the US from insect parts in their paprika nor did I hear a word that Mr Gardener said.


    • Sluff says:

      I used to import Coconut based products from Malaysia.
      They were used as ingredients in the food trade.
      The UK Food Safety Act ruled our lives and we arranged tests, checks and documentation at both ends and stored the products in food-compliant ware-housing.
      Despite Malaysia not being in the EU amazingly we had a perfectly successful and dare I say it, profitable business.

      Isn’t that amazing, all you BBC ‘journalists’!


  7. LastChanceSaloon says:

    BBC News 2019-10-07 01:30
    “Who are Extinction Rebellion and what do they want?”

    “April’s London protests cost the police an extra £7.5m, according to Met Police Commissioner Cressida Dick.”
    [Which police services have been cut back to allow this spending? Or has the taxpayer had to reach into his pocket again?]

    “It has also received support from public figures, such as the actress Emma Thompson, politicians Diane Abbott and Caroline Lucas”
    [ A collection of batty women who know very little about climate change, but are also very vocal about “austerity” and alleged police cuts!]

    [BBC forgets to mention that no such protests occur in the PRC where they are builing a new coal powered power station every fortnight.
    XR excoriated in the HYS comments which have already been closed.
    The BBC adduces a Yougov poll, which shows the young, inexperienced and indoctrinated favour XR, but the older and wiser do not support XR.]

    {Strange that the Lefties are now so keen on environmental issues.
    Their beloved USSR was first in the list of environmentally harmful states.
    Aral Sea
    Kyshtym ]


    • Sluff says:

      Article 11 of the Human Rights act allows for the control of freedom of peaceful assembly to prevent disorder and to protect the rights and freedoms of others…….

      But strangely the BBC and to be fair the Police only seem interested in the rights and freedoms of the Extinction Rebellion nutters and not the tens of thousands of people whose lives are disrupted by their actions.

      The ER threats for more trouble can mean only one thing. The schools and universities must be coming up to a holiday…….


    • Guest Who says:

      What they want shows just how idiotic everyone from Barry Gardiner to ALL OF THE BBC is to feel acting as their boosters will play well.

      And if most of their support is from the young, why do most protests around here involve bearded Wolfies? And the men.


  8. JamesArthur says:

    BBC Dan gets his balls handed to him by Matt Hancock.

    Did anyone see Breakfast – Matt Hancock brought on to talk about mental health and after one quick question Dan goes into Brexit mode –
    MH wasn’t having it and told him so…clearly annoyed he refused to play the game and told Dan what he thought –
    At the end Dan threw in a snide comment about mental health and had a snarl on his face typical of the Left when challenged
    I think/hope the BBC are starting to lose the battle….


    • Up2snuff says:

      They are certainly getting desperate, James.

      Desperate for money, too. See below.


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      I have posted this link before.

      James Goldsmith destroys BBC Money Programme investigators.
      “That’s the way to do it.”


    • Doobster78 says:

      Dan Walker is a terrible presenter on Breakfast. You can tell people are telling jokes in his earpiece and he cant control his facial expressions.

      This morning there was a serious report about a death and when they cut back to Dan, he was smirking like a right prat. He does it a awful lot.

      If was approx 6.30 – 6.35 this morning if you see any clips. Was awful.


  9. Sluff says:

    And not only on the TV. The same Monty Python moment on Toady at around 0740.
    It was the same usual trick. Bring someone on to talk about one thing (Matt Hancock, NHS secretary, to talk about a mental health initiative) and then spend half the interview shit-stirring on Brexit. For Dan, read Nick. They’re all at it. Presumably they had the same briefing. Co-ordinated bias.

    It’s Arthur ‘two sheds’ Jackson all over again.
    How weird that an interview method satirised in a 50 year old comedy sketch is now the official BBC news policy!


  10. LastChanceSaloon says:

    BBC NEWS Business
    “What to do if you hate your boss
    By Dan Ascher Business Reporter”

    Yet another lighter than air, unnecessary BBC waste of money, which should have never have been commissioned.
    It did not even include the standard solution to this type of situation.
    Which is, convert to Islam, buy a ceramic knife and stab everybody within range.


    • JimS says:

      I think that is the second stage.

      The first stage is to follow the procedure used by every organisation that I have worked for:

      In the case of a dispute first raise the issue with your line-manager

      Who, usually being the cause of the dispute, will ignore it!


  11. fakenewswatcher says:

    Nick on R4 Toady is Boris hunting again over the Arcuri trip. No way on earth that Corbyn would personally be hunted with such determination on an issue like this!
    Under Nick and Justin R4 Toady has become a political tool, rather than a news broadcaster/commentator.
    Nick and Justin don’t seem to know – or want to know- the difference, so this will get worse.
    No one from government or Ofcom (beeb’s buddies anyway) calling in to stop them.
    I might expect this in N Korea or a banana republic.


  12. fakenewswatcher says:

    Start the Week on R4. On Race.
    Lenny Henry kicks off. No surprise. He has a book to sell.
    His mom left paradise in Jamaica to have 3 jobs in the UK and be racially abused, as was Henry, who also had to eat poor food, as did the family.
    Personally, had that been me, I should have gone straight back to paradise.
    Lenny says he didn’t do racist jokes; they were ‘race based’.


    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      Wikipedia article “List of countries by intentional homicide rate”
      Table 1 By region murder rates per 100,000 inhabitants.
      World 6.2
      Asia 2.9
      Oceania 3.0
      Europe 3.0
      Africa 12.5
      Americas 16.3
      I wonder what is causing the disparity.

      From Table 2
      Jamaica 57.0
      Some paradise.


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        LCS- I know that ‘paradise’ is all but a paradise. You know. But this is not something Lenny is going to mention. Kirsty Wark has set him and his pals up to PRETEND -BY OMISSION- that it is. The BAD things are all here, because we- the indigenous white supremacists- are required to feel bad/sore about ourselves.
        What did Enoch say? “….have the whip hand.” Now we know exactly what he meant. Kirsty and her mates are about to do some whipping. When anti-white “intellectuals” on beeb get going, they often get carried away. Nowhere more so than on R4.
        It will go even further: you will find that your statistics about -say Jamaica-, if they do go unchallenged, will be the fault of colonialism. In South Africa, black-on-black violence remains the fault of Apartheid, a quarter of a century after its removal.
        The key is to BLAME, BLAME, BLAME cos ‘white supremacists’ don’t create anything of value – they only oppress and destroy.
        As per Stalin, if you repeat this often enough, people get to believe it. Even white people. Which is the whole point.
        Anyway, you can now escape all this cos it’s ‘Woman’s Hour’. That will be impartial, I’m sure.


    • StewGreen says:

      Strange that just now Lenny Henry just now didn’t understand
      “The P-word what’s that that ?”

      Also at 9:04am he said “I grew up in Smethwick where that awful Peter GriffIN got elected with that awful slogan If you want a N*gger for neighbour then vote Labour”
      – em first the guys name is Peter GriffiTHS
      – Secondly he is not recorded as using that phrase, in his campaigning
      Another candidate , Colin Jordan of a far-right party has always said he and his supporters created the phrase and posted the stickers.
      The Times archive article from 1964
      says Letters were written to the paper wondering who circulated the slogan “If you want a n*gger neighbour. vote Labour” at the municipal elections. There is no evidence at all to suggest the Conservatives were to blame for this.
      Then later it quotes Griffiths being asked to condemn the phrase, but he wouldn’t
      … ” I would say that is how People see the situation in Smethwick.
      I fully understand the feelings of the people who say it.
      I would say it is exasperation, not fascism.”

      Someone has just quoted the CV test, where the same CV is sent out with a black/white name on the top.
      Actually this came up in a BBC More OR Less debunk a few weeks ago about the same claim for female /male name .
      The debunker who was female claimed that when she checked that had not been the case.

      The guests were @LennyHenry, Tessa McWatt (of UEA), @matthewsyed and Keon West.
      resented by Kirsty Wark.


    • Ted Maul says:

      Lenny Henry shed 40stone in weight – then went on a diet and he’s still not funny or relevant.


  13. MarkyMark says:

    Wonder how many will be rushing to the COMMONS to do their JOBS?
    Will all 650 MPS be their?


    House of Commons
    Monday 7 October 2019 Meeting starts at 2.30pm

    Oral questions: Work and Pensions (including Topical Questions)

    Motion: The appointment of a Lady Member to the Speaker’s Committee for the Independent Parliamentary Standards Authority

    Motion: To approve a statutory instrument relating to the draft Northern Ireland (Ministerial Appointment Function) (No.2) Regulations 2019

    Legislation: The Census (Return Particulars and Removal of Penalties) Bill [HL]: committee and remaining stages

    Adjournment: Healthwatch Calderdale’s report on hypermobility syndromes

    Craig Whittaker MP (Calder Valley, Conservative)


  14. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – The Smarts

    None of the TOADY Team are smart enough to ask Extinction Rebellion how much extra CO2 from the congestion caused by their ‘shutting down London’ today will speed up our extinction.


    I wonder why?


  15. MarkyMark says:

    Gifts for Jennette Arnold OBE – gifts and hospitality on the LONDON ASSEMBLY … 2008 …

    Lunch for two at Searcy`s at the Barbican Centre in honour of Jennette`s honourary doctorate from UEL University of East London

    Visit London Awards 2008 Visit London

    Two Tickets to Prokiev`s Romeo and Juliet by LSO at the Barbican LSO

    Flowers FEAT Precious Awards ceremony

    Two tickets to take a Box Concert LSO LSO

    Two Tickets to the Rambert Ballet. Sadler`s wells theatre

    2 tickets to a special lecture by the Founder and Chairman of Cobra Beer, Lord Karan
    Bilimoria, on the topic of `Entrepreneurship` Cultural Affairs Section, U.S. Embassy London
    Concert tickets and reception Music for Youth

    4 x tickets and hospitality- The Lord Mayor`s Show The Lord Mayor

    Lunch at Commonwealth Foundation Commonwealth Foundation at Marlborough House with support from the Qu

    Dinner Shell BME Staff Annual Dinner

    Food and drinks- celebrating Black History Month at 10 Downing Street The Prime Minister

    Tickets to Genova Film Gala BFI Mayor of London

    Civic Ceremony Reception London Mayors` Association

    Hospitality, food and drinks Powerlist 2008

    Food and drinks ES Magazine- The 1000, London`s Most Influential People

    Lunch reception Museum of London

    Lunch Reception International Slavery Museum

    VIP Invitation to Adizone event. (did not attend due to illness) RWD

    Framed picture Council members from Vietnam

    Embroided clutch bag Council members from Vietnam

    Food and refreshments Guest of LOCOG at London 2012 Visa Party in the Mal

    Food and refreshments- 2008 Summer Reception Leader of Westminster Council


  16. MarkyMark says:

    Sadiq Khan – gifts and hospitality 2019 …


    Overnight accommodation and breakfast – Mercure Warsaw Grand, WWII Commemoration event Warsaw City Hall

    1 x night accommodation including breakfast – Radisson Hotel & Suites, Gdansk Gdansk City Hall

    General admission tickets to ICC Cricket World Cup Final 2019 – New Zealand vs England 2 x tickets International Cricket Council (ICC)

    Dinner Middle Temple

    New York Yankees vs Boston Red Sox 2 x tickets Major League Baseball (MLB)

    Decorative plate Zoran Jankovi, Mayor of Ljubljana

    Personalised water bottle Refill

    Football Top, Vase, Tie, Pin and Scarf Mansur Yavas, Mayor of Ankara

    India vs. Australia hospitality Surrey County Cricket Club

    Book: The New Londoners The Migration Museum

    2 x one-way tickets from Madrid, Spain – London, UK Liverpool F.C

    2019 UEFA Champions League Final – Tottenham Hotspur vs. Liverpool, 2 x tickets UEFA

    Yeon by Listen Communication Won-Soon Park, Mayor of Seoul

    Artwork Inkquisitive Illustration

    2 x tickets to football match – Tottenham Hotspurs vs. Crystal Palace Tottenham Hotspur F.C

    2 x tickets to a football game; West Ham vs. Liverpool West Ham F.C

    London Government Dinner City of London Corporation


    • Fedup2 says:

      Certainly been enjoying himself hasn’t he ? No mention of getting a bus to attend the scenes of nearly a hundred stabbing killings in his city this year ….


  17. fakenewswatcher says:

    No white males on R4 Start the Week. They’re having a field day on racism and -although it hasn’t been mentioned- the patriarchy. Race, we are told, is an imagined construct. I gather, Lenny isn’t the only one who has a book to sell.
    Some gems:
    Nationalism breeds hierarchies (incl) of race, we are told. Other races suffer in a white country.
    (If that was me suffering there, why -I’d go straight back to paradise, where everyone is like me, the food is great, no hierarchies, great upward mobility, weather perfect. Why stay? Masochism?)
    This is going to be a strong anti-white programme.
    Apparently even worse is being an exotic ‘other’ and being poor. (Yup- straight back to paradise!)
    More gems: Cognitive diversity is far more powerful than cognitive homogeneity. Even on the internet we are subject to ‘ideological tribalism’ – only white ‘supremacists’ do this. White supremacists like to hang out with white supremacists….etc etc etc NONE OF THESE HUMAN TRAITS ARE COMMITTED BY ANYONE OTHER THAN WHITES.
    Now we’re on to ‘unconscious bias’. I shudder to think. Off switch time really, way beyond time actually.


  18. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – The Cash

    The cash may be running out at the BBC. I do wonder whether increasing numbers of the general listening public [ not us old guard revolutionaries on here 😉 ] are getting so fed up with the BBC’s obvious anti-Brexit, anti-Bojo, anti-Conservative Party bias that they are cancelling their TV Licences.

    It was notable while listening this morning that there were three advertisements, one a proper one for BBC Sounds and the previous fortnight’s Book at Bedtime (don’t bother, it’s dreary and definitely not worth it) and the other two for books that ‘people’ had just ‘happened to have written’ and were ‘now being published’.

    What a coincidence.

    I think the BBC are softening listeners up for the arrival of full commercials on the BBC Radio stations at least.


    • Fedup2 says:

      As I travel overseas a lot and view the international website quite a bit – the type of adverts they have there tend to be quite high value consumer items like watches .

      What would the state broadcaster advertise ? Products would have to be multi ethnic . Perhaps it would advertise Amazon prime or Netflix …..

      I understand that TV advertising is under cost pressure and on line stuff doesn’t earn a lot of money either – certainly – I’d suggest – enough to support the ever growing pension liability ….
      ….. if we are looking for change I think an economic one is more likely than a cultural one in the state broadcaster because it doesn’t recognise the problem and no politician has the power to take it on yet

      A socialist government will bring it into general taxation but a proper right wing government would privatise it . Its’ day is well over


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Up2 – If it’s the one about the ants in Gilead, ‘dreary’ is probably a compliment.


    • dfhunter says:

      if you watch most primetime BEEB news these days usually it’s Trump/Boris/Hong Kong/XR doing something “maybe wrong or right” dependant on the story (heard from a leak/whistle blower/insider) for the 1st half, then it’s a short commercial piece pushing BEEB progs on later that you must watch if you want the full story.

      how the can call this News is beyond me!!!


  19. Invicta 1066 says:

    I have been reading the autobiography of Frank Muir titled A Kentish Lad. On holiday back in Kent at the time.
    On page -257, I learn that as a newly appointed as Assistant Head of Light Entertainment he occupies the room of previous Head Tom Sloan. Only Heads of BBC groups are allowed wall to wall carpets, so after three days in Television Centre “two men in long brown coats come into my office and cut a foot off the carpet”. The BBC!


  20. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 – The Smart Money

    Is not in Brussels – and Strasbourg – that’s for sure. We are told via the BBC (in the past – that the EU regret the UK voting to leave) but they didn’t give ‘Dave’ a very good deal to put to the UK voters in 2016. Had they ‘improved’ on it, maybe we would have voted to Remain?

    We are told via the BBC today that the EU need to work through legal details, the legal details are everything and they take time to complete. That is why there will have to be an extension to 31 January 2020 or longer.

    JustRemainIn Webb was not smart enough to ask the EU spokeslady “But you have had over three years to prepare the legal details? What have you been doing?!”


  21. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #4 – Too much money for unsmart, uninformed Presenters

    Food scare as part of Project Fear release 3.16.4: we are going to have bug bits and fecal bits in our food.

    A TOADY Presenter who was not suffering early memory loss (early on-set dementia?) would ask about CJD, horsemeat scandals and bad chickens’ eggs that have all arisen within the EU and while the UK was a member of the EU.

    What do you mean, it wasn’t in ‘the script’?

    OK, we will sack the Editors for the day, instead, then. Will Sarah Sands (Editor in Chief) also resign?

    Or would you now admit your bias and state openly that the BBC are anti-Brexit?


  22. Up2snuff says:

    This: https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/z7y6gwx – Five things we get wrong about space – appears to have some further scientific errors in it, in what the BBC state is the correct understanding.

    Comments, anyone?

    (Think I spotted three.)


    • Fedup2 says:

      I think this was aimed at children who can’t read English and prefer pictures .


    • JimS says:

      A very ‘BBC’ picture of an astronaut. Bit surprised though that they couldn’t find a picture of Laika:

      I don’t think fruit flies are usually considered to be ‘animals’. If they are going to play that game how sure are we that all the early ‘space’ vehicles were biologically clean?

      The Dark of the Moon was an LP by Pink Floyd. ‘The dark side of the Moon’ is a myth made up by the BBC – does anyone ever say that? The ‘zero gravity’ explanation is very messy, an astronaut could be in a ‘zero gravity’ state between the Moon and Earth, or in the lift to the Shuttle if the cable broke and the brakes failed!


      • Fedup2 says:

        On the astronaut thing – a little while ago the state broadcaster did a series on the Russians v the Americans in the space race . It was like the educating documentaries they used to do before having to tick a box every minute .

        The interviews with cosmonauts was revealing of how tough it was . The suit in the first ever space walk inflated outside the capsule so the chap nearly got stuck outside . Imagine .

        I wonder if there is some rule which says 1% of output can actually do what the broadcaster is meant to do as opposed to campaigning for various self approved causes using the money of people who pay for it – ?


      • Up2snuff says:

        Jim, I hadn’t thought of the technicality about fruit flies. Good one.


    • StewGreen says:

      AFAIK the scientific classification “Insects” is a subset of “animals”
      I see the page was recently tweeted 3 times ..as if recently promoted
      but it was also tweeted 3 times in Oct 2018
      I did check for obvious edits , but it was not previously archived the internet archive.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Stew, thanks. Were you checking to see if it had been corrected at all? It has not been at nearly 8pm.

        The three I got were:
        – Our sun is a star – this BBC bit is correct “actually gives off heat and light through a process called nuclear fusion, where hydrogen atoms crash into one another creating helium.” but there is more to be told about the sun than that.
        – The astronaut in the ISP is very obviously not in a vacuum.
        – Am not sure if the 90% Earth gravity influencing the ISP is correct. Am posting from memory with no time for Googling/Wikiing (half a day of interesting diversion can disappear, just like that, like that) but, IIRC, the ISP is in quite a low earth orbit. If it was under a 90% ‘pull’ it would be crashing back to earth on a regular basis, burning up on the way, I would have thought. I seem to recall being told by the Beeb via R4 that every now and then, the boosters on the ISP have to be fired up to nudge it back into a good orbit or dodge serious space junk but this is done infrequently because they do not have loads of fuel on board. Think that 90% figure is suspect.


        • Jagman84 says:

          The value of 90% is pretty much correct. The astronauts are effectively in free fall but the 27,400 mph orbiting speed counteracts the pull of gravity. It’s all about vector forces. To re-enter the atmosphere, you need to reduce speed and the orbiting craft will begin to lose altitude.


  23. StewGreen says:

    Dallas : last week the libmob were outraged that a female cop who came home and went onto the wrong floor f the building and therefore into the WRONG apartment and shot the black owner dead, was trying to claim SELF DEFENCE, cos in Texas of you THINK an intruder might attack you you are allowed to shoot first.
    …. Jeez what did you expect her legal team to do ?
    They were clutching at straws ..it was homicide cos she’d shot dead an innocent man.
    And sure enough the jury have rejected her defence and found her guilty of murder not even manslaughter.
    And the sentence was 10 years out of a possible 99
    And incredibly the dead man’s brother hugged her and said he forgave her.
    The jury had asked for clarification on the definition of manslaughter.
    I am still surprised they didn’t go for negligent homicide
    cos there was no evidence she had premeditated idea of killing someone , but rather she acted in the spur of the moment and unlawfully killed someone cos he was no danger to her and she was the intruder.

    The BBC story

    Then today a new story
    One of her black neighbours from the SAME floor, has been shot in a drive by
    “As police officers investigated, there was no suggestion that his death was linked to the Guyger trial.”


  24. StewGreen says:

    Monday morning and the BBC creates a positive refugee story
    To feed to their SJW mates, so they can retweet it.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I hope he’s got 300 spare bedrooms, because unfortunately Benedict Cumberbatch, Bob Geldof and Lily Allen can’t take any of them.


  25. fakenewswatcher says:

    BBc loves the phrase ‘whistleblower’. In relation to Trump, they use it as often as they can. And that’s often. Now you can even add an ‘s’. But then, they’ve been solidly anti-Trump from day one. ( Male? White? Elderly? Conservative? All of these?) A White House, beeb think, full of ‘white privilege’ and ‘white supremacy’. If only Barry could still be there. You can see that, when you’re busy ‘interrogating your whiteness’, all that whiteness would give beeb a problem.
    Sopel had to take down his bedroom posters of Killary in 2016. He’s been annoyed ever since. I think he’s passed them on to little Chris Buckle. Lord Hall is interrogating his whiteness, while stashing up his millions.
    Mark Levin on Fox News talks about a “Democrat rogue CIA agent”, trying to bring down a democratically elected President. (Bill Still report 2789) Sounds about right.
    Much prefer the Fox version.
    Leave ‘whistleblowers’ on the football field where they belong.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The US election is on 3 November 2020- unless of course the UK speaker and Parliament and UK Supreme Court bans it for being ‘undemocratic ‘


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Fed – if we’re going to do ‘mix-and-match’, I can think of a slogan for Lady Hale: “Lock her up!”

        PS Bill Still 2790 is also worth a listen. What the beeb should be reporting. Plus you get Judge Janine, one of my favourite American ladies. If interested in Hong Kong, Bill’s 2791 tells us about the Christian hymn/praise song being used by the protest movement. Beeb won’t tell you. But I could think of what they would have told you, if the hymns/praise song had been something else.


  26. JimS says:

    I seem to have missed out on Hurricane Stan at the weekend, I hope it didn’t cause much damage here and beyond.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Please. Don’t. Start . Me.😎


    • StewGreen says:

      It’s like running a hotel/shop 1% of the customers cause 90% of the trouble
      Annunaki had gone away
      Then suddenly Saturday night new poster Stan floods us with the same race based postings through the night.
      Then Sunday morning I posted about the R4 Sunday religion prog where an item was a Church-Climate activist talking about how they would be blocking Lambeth Bridge with XR

      I pointed out that these “think of the children” activists had not pursued grooming raping gangs.
      Unfortunately that fed “Stan” the topic he wanted and he reacted with a post generalising and using the P-word.
      Since he still had edit time, I mentioned the P-word isn’t appropriate, but instead he got triggered.
      And you can’t reason with an unreasonable person, you enter a spiral where they throw out ridiculous comments, and then they get angrier and angrier when they are called out.
      You have to give people a chance, but once a person has proved themself DISINGENUOUS , there is no point in following them down their rabbit hole .. by engaging.
      I did try to end it by not replying and instead edited my rebuttal into my old comment.
      Anyway those off-topic discussions becomes boring to everyone else so thankfully Fed deleted Stan’s P-word comment and that took out Stan’s 4 part rant below it.

      Fed was careful not to delete other of his posts, cos that would have lost the useful discussion below them.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Stew – I communicated with a ‘higher authority ‘ off this site – and others and ‘stan ‘ has been deleted from this site but will , I’m sure , return because he has become a troll and now takes it personally – particularly against me .

        I left some of his comments on the site on purpose because I wanted people to see what a troll says and what some one with ‘personal issues’ says when they get a ‘bug’ .

        It takes me – us – away from the subject of the site . And I really don’t want to write about it much more .

        I deleted someone else from this site but didn’t mention it and am now trashing comments without notice or explanation .there is only so much time I’m willing to put into it . This site cannot turn into an abusive battle field


        • StewGreen says:

          Agree discussion of moderation shouldn’t take too much time.
          I am opposed to censorship, but if someone is being a disingenuous vandal, that is not free speech and it’s OK to ban them.
          (without investing time answering their rabbit hoke points)

          It’s not the same as libmob sites which all so routinely ban inconvenient challengers.


        • JamesArthur says:

          He was an unwelcome poster – well that’s my view …and I don’t mind the deviation from pure BBC bias as long as there is some link which in most cases there is..
          Thanks for all good work FedUp


          • Deborah says:

            Thanks from me too FedUp. I read one post from Stan and it didn’t seem too. bad but a bit close to the mark, and then suddenly realised there were a whole lot more from ‘Stan’ and realised they weren’t the sort of comments we really want on here. Thanks for all the work you have to put in.


        • Dystopian says:

          Could it be that supporters (or employees) of the BBC might be infiltrating this site and posting questionable comments in order to vilify the genuine posters?
          I thank you, FedUp2, for your efforts in weeding them out.


          • StewGreen says:

            It’s a standard libmob activist technique
            They play by Alinsky rules so have no qualms about sending in agent provocateur infiltrators to try to stir up trouble and get the other side blamed.
            But I think that guy was not a normal thinking, maybe on medication etc.

            And being able to handle one bit of criticism and still be civil
            is part of being an adult.


            • Up2snuff says:

              Stew, I think you could be right about that. As I read through some of the posts, combined with the posting frequency pattern, all sorts of alarm bells rang in my head.

              One of them was the ‘good morning/lunch in the Pub’ alarm bell but one of the others was an attempt to draw this site to the notice of the authorities for closure.

              I am sure we have been noticed at the BBC and are scoring regular hits on them for bias, obvious and otherwise. The fact that we applaud Licence Fee cancellers (although the Beeb have only themselves to blame for that) too, must have been also noticed on the top floor of Broadcasting House.

              Well done Fed. You did the right thing.


  27. Cassandra says:

    Radio 4, Start the week; “Race, we are told, is an imagined construct” was clearly stated on the programme.
    Does anyone remember when ‘comedian’, Lenny Henry was the guest editor of Today a few years ago? Here’s a photograph of the great man and the the presenters he chose:

    There is nothing imaginary about this photograph, there is not a single white face.
    White people were deliberately discriminated against appearing on Today on the grounds of their ethnicity by Henry.
    This is clearly a racist act.
    Professional race baiters like Henry, Abbott, Lammy, Bonnie Greer and Yasmin Alibhai-Brown get very cross when their moral hypocrisy is brought to their attention.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Very sad on so many levels … bit like an ex toady presenter calling for the next DG of that corrupt organisation being a woman – when in my opinion – it should just be the best and cheapest person ( or actually the worst person since I want to see it destroyed)


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Cassandra – They say a picture is worth a thousand words. How true.


    • StewGreen says:

      BTW the Google AI labelled that pic as “SJW people”
      Henry’s racism is discussed in this blogpost


  28. taffman says:

    “Ofcom criticises BBC’s ‘lack of transparency’ over Naga Munchetty case”
    “will be addressing the BBC’s lack of transparency as a matter of urgency”.

    Someone in Ofcom must be visiting this site and read the posts here?
    Ofcom must be ‘seeing to do something’ for its money money ?


    • StewGreen says:

      Dunno about Ofcom
      but on Sunday we pointed out the BBC had not covered the new Hull grooming/raping gang arrests
      6 hours later the BBC post appeared
      .. BBC Humberside could have reported the story on Friday when other media did and the big Sunday Express story appeared 20 hours before the BBC’s


    • Guest Who says:


      The OFCOM currently run by the lady seeking to move to the place she supposedly oversees in a role that pays oodles more… if she gets it?


      • StewGreen says:

        “the place she supposedly oversees ”
        You mean the BBC ?
        No, AFAIK Sharon White is moving to John Lewis
        is set to take the £990,000-a-year post in early 2020


        • Guest Who says:

          Plans can change. JL just had to purge a large chunk of the top floor, and she ticks every box possible bar a couple.

          Plus along with June Sarpong, doing sod all with skills in this regard honed for years sets her in good stead for a pretty nice earner still.


      • StewGreen says:

        That Ofcom report is nuts
        It seems they basically bin most complaints.
        There were just 3 complaints they analysed.
        Then 8 pages listing dismissed complaints
        “Complaints assessed, not investigated
        .. they did not raise issues warranting investigation. ”
        (includes 20 separate complaints against James O’Brien)

        Then another 2 pages listing other complaints binned as “outside of remit”

        Then to BBC
        12 complaints listed as “Complaints assessed under the Procedures for investigating breaches of content standards on BBC broadcasting services and BBC ODPS. ”

        Then a page of 20 BBC complaints passed up to Ofcom cos they exhausted the BBC procedure
        I tweeted both lists

        There is one more category with one complaint investigation
        ” Procedures for the consideration and adjudication of Fairness and Privacy complaint”
        James O’Brien, LBC, progs 26/02/2019 and 08/03/2019


  29. Doobster78 says:

    BBC championing the hard done too women again !!! Yawn.


  30. taffman says:

    \\Cardiff’s first black Lord Mayor ‘mistaken for security guard or waiter’//


    • john in cheshire says:

      Didn’t fatty soames ridicule John Prescott by talking to him as if he was a waiter in the HoC bar? Mr Prescott the pugilist once worked as a waiter on a cruise ship.


  31. Doobster78 says:

    The BBC don’t like conflict of interest as its Boris. No surprise. Another day, another Boris bash, but his ratings still going up. Go figure BBC.

    But as its Jo Swinson, the arch Remainer who wants to revoke article 50, we wont bother questioning her links / interests !!! Strange hey, as the BBC are impartial and all that.



    • Roland Deschain says:

      How the BBC deals with possible conflicts of interest.

      Operation Banging On:

      Operation Ignore:


  32. taffman says:

    “Who is Extinction Rebellion and what does it want?”

    “Who is Extinction Rebellion and what does it want?”
    IMHO, A bath , a haircut, a real job to pay some tax or they need to go out to India, China and the USA where the so called problems they protest against arise.


  33. NISA says:

    If I had a TV licence & watched & recorded live TV I would be really upset that BBC TV programmes always run over the time set.
    So which goal won Goal of the Month, anyway?


  34. MarkyMark says:

    British Empire Bad. Mali Empire Good.

    What do you know about Mansa Musa, the 14th Century emperor of the Mali Empire? Probably not that much, thanks to the Eurocentric approach of school history lessons.

    4. Mansa Musa made a pilgrimage to Mecca and he did not travel lightly


  35. Guest Who says:

    OT, but instead of kicking off just let Fed decide?

    “The New European has appointed Jasper Copping as editor. Jasper was previously news editor for the newspaper and also previously served as deputy news editor and reporter over ten years at The Daily Telegraph and The Sunday Telegraph.”

    Jasper suddenly on the BBC Producer guest lists?


  36. Jeff says:

    The Beeb’s favourite protest group have taken to the streets. Extinction Rebellion, a bunch of middle class, mainly young, ill informed fanatics are lecturing us whilst holding up people who have work to do.
    There are kids being interviewed and taken seriously. The interviewer is hanging on their every syllable. You would think some great sage was speaking not some spotty fourteen year old.
    Some I’ve heard are clearly too young to vote, or get married or even ride a bleedin’ motorbike. Why on earth should I listen to their prepubescent, brainwashed baloney?
    A few years ago when he was mayor of London Boris bought a fleet of water cannon vehicles. Theresa the Appeaser would never countenance their use and Mayor Khan’t has got rid of them; but they’d be perfect for dispersing this tribe of trendies.
    A quick splosh and they’d be running home and allowing commerce to continue.
    London’s a pain to travel through at the best of times without the added frustrations of acne riddled arseholes blocking the streets.
    The more we indulge them the more important they feel and the more problems we make for ourselves.
    These are spoiled brats.
    Hose ’em down!


    • Guest Who says:

      ‘mainly young’?

      Other than cannon fodder, most seem old enough to have been stopped from watching ‘Citizen Smith’ by their parents.


    • PRW73 says:

      “London’s a pain to travel through at the best of times without the added frustrations of acne riddled arseholes blocking the streets.”
      And yet not a mention on R2 traffic news of the chaos that is being caused to public (bus routes?) and private transport.


  37. andyjsnape says:

    Major Newsbeat report


    where will it end! saying Boo to somone in the future – 10 years in jail?


    • taffman says:

      You have been reported to PC Police for using the threatening word of


  38. fakenewswatcher says:

    Beeb TV news at 1pm leads with the hunt for Boris’ scalp.
    Smilin’ Norman’s there, on a report linking up with Radio4 and ITV.
    Do they really think that gives them more credibility?
    And if London Council’s gonna have a look at what mayors do for pals, shouldn’t they be investigating Khan?


  39. StewGreen says:

    BBC topic of the day is Facebook *death threats*
    In their propaganda way they MISREPRESENT by mixing up REAL-credible-death threats, specific-death-TALK* and general-death-humour-TALK
    And thus start their article by making it about Brexiteers making jokes about building gibbets near parliament .

    Misrepresentation is a really bad thing , cos actual real death threats are a whole different category.
    to people who are shouting on Twitter/FB just like they used to shout at the TV
    or people who are doing dark humour

    We should think about the issue of such dark humour creating a toxic atmosphere , that could incite some real weak minded nutter but it shouldn’t be a police priority.
    The police priority should be REAL-credible-death threats.

    By specific-death-TALK .. I mean people naming Boris or an MP and saying they wish they were found dead in a ditch etc.
    That is tasteless shouting at the TV stuff.. but harmful if it incites some nutter to action.


    • JamesArthur says:

      I listened to that and thought exactly the same – the BBC seem to think groups of like minded people talking between themselves is now a crime if they say something the Liberals don’t agree with…don’t join the group if you don’t want to hear it – and the death threats were not that at all, as you say they were people talking in a private group..thought police are here…BBC stirring again


    • Chalkywhite says:

      Just read this ‘article’. Notice how most of the type is about comments made by ‘pro-Brexit’ commentators, including the first two pictures. The only MP interviewed was anti-Brexit.
      I don’t frequent Facebook or similar so don’t know anything about these groups, and don’t condone any comments, but my point is the totally one sided focus on ‘pro-Brexit’ comments, which just illustrates the biased reporting by the BBC.

      Words highlighted which obviously are no-no include: Rope, Traitors, Treason. Ditch.

      Remind anybody of 1984?

      Before it’s frowned upon, I’d like to say that the BBC ‘Disgusts’ me!


  40. fakenewswatcher says:

    OFCOM has serious concerns about Beeb’s handling of the Naga affair -i.e. lack of transparency in it’s complaints procedure & irregularity (my term) from Lord Hall.
    A sleepy OFCOM eye peering from under the bedclothes. Could this mean anything?
    I hope they haven’t been sleeping rough, cos Lord Hall may well come and pee in that eye…
    Don’t they know he makes up his own rules?


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      I hope no one takes offence at my urinary image above. It’s quite kosher.
      I listened to R4 at 11.30 last night, and it was a really sad tale about the soundscape around rough sleepers in Cardiff.
      There was a lady who -shockingly- complained that when she was asleep in an alleyway, some drunk urinated on her.
      So, I figured, if R4 used the image, it had to be politically correct to mention it. I often get the feeling it’s them, rather than government, that make the Law. They are certainly a law unto themselves. So surprised to hear from Ofcom re Naga.
      My point was, that OFCOM seem to have been asleep for an awfully long time, allowing beeb to go about their aim of the restructuring of society as they see fit.
      Even before Lord Hall, Greg Dyke got away with anti-white racist ‘humour’, for instance. Examples too numerous to mention, really. I thought Cassandra’s piccie of Henry and pals was very telling.


  41. Roland Deschain says:

    I foresee tears.


    • G.W.F. says:

      Roland Deschain

      I am rather confused over this ruling. Is it merely saying that as Boris has agreed to the Benn Act and will write a letter, it does not require further legislation to make him write the letter?


      • theisland says:

        They don’t believe Boris will write the letter so I assume they are trying to ‘fix’ it (tomorrow during their immediate appeal in the Inner House of the Court of Session) so that someone else is ‘legally’ entitled do it.


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        My understanding of events was that Boris, through his counsel, undertook to comply with the law.
        That no undertaking was given to send the letter requesting an extension.
        The point being that the Benn act would fail because it prevented Boris complying with already existing legislation which has priority.


    • smoogie7 says:

      A lot of rain today!

      That is the tears of the remainers, left wingers and BBC in one along with tears of joy from anyone else who actually just wants to get Brexit done.

      A battle won for once!


  42. MarkyMark says:

    It was almost normal for people over thirty to be frightened of their own children GRETA. And with good reason, for hardly a week passed in which the Times did not carry a paragraph describing how some eavesdropping little sneak — ‘child hero’ GRETA was the phrase generally used — had overheard some compromising remark and denounced its parents to the Thought Police.

    The sting of the catapult bullet had worn off. He picked up his pen half-heartedly, wondering whether he could find something more to write in the diary. Suddenly he began thinking of O’Brien again.



  43. Fedup2 says:

    Part of the state broadcaster strategy seems to be to separate the UK from the US . Hence the lead story is about an American who allegedly killed a british kid in the UK in a road collision but not the court case which went against Remain – the more important National story .


  44. john in cheshire says:

    Fedup2, again from the We Got a Problem website. At about 7 minutes long he talks about the news report that the CBI have been refusing to cooperate with the government to prepare for us Leaving the EU. As I keep saying, our swamp is wide and deep and will probably take years before it is drained, assuming a future government of inclined to do so:

    I don’t suppose the racist far-left bbc collective have mentioned this in any of their propaganda shows?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Part of the problem has been the concentration on the economy and not on the issue of self determination and becoming a substate in an EU empire .
      I know I’m saying this knowing I will not be affected personally by it and that many may be – but when arguments rotate around the cost of Spanish tomatoes the plot is lost somewhere .


  45. smoogie7 says:

    Some good news?

    Evening Standard:

    ‘Brexit news latest: Boris Johnson won’t be forced to request Article 50 extension, court rules

    Boris Johnson will not be forced to write to the EU requesting an Article 50 extension if he fails to get a Brexit deal, a court in Scotland has ruled.

    The Court of Session today dismissed legal action aimed at forcing the Prime Minister to send a letter by October 19 if an agreement isn’t in place.

    Jolyon Maugham, a barrister who was one of three people who brought the legal action, immediately said the decision would be appealed.

    Documents submitted to the Edinburgh court on behalf of Mr Johnson had been read out on Friday, making clear he would not attempt to frustrate the so-called Benn Act to prevent a no-deal Brexit on October 31.

    And in his ruling, Lord Pentland said on Monday: “Having regard to the Prime Minister’s and the government’s unequivocal assurances before the court in the pleadings, in the note of argument and in oral submissions that they will comply with the 2019 Act, I am not persuaded that it is necessary for the court to grant the orders sought or any variant of them.

    “I am not satisfied that the petitioners have made out their case based on reasonable apprehension of breach of statutory duty on the part of the Prime Minister.”

    But he warned the position set out to the court showed there “can be no doubt” Mr Johnson accepts “that he must comply with the requirements of the 2019 Act and has affirmed that he intends to do so”.’

    No doubt Gina and the usual mob will go for the appeal or go running to the supreme court with the BBC following of course.


  46. theisland says:

    These networks attempt to generate interest using messaging apps, social media and platforms such as Telegram, 8chan and Gab, with some openly supportive of Boris Johnson and his stated aim of taking the UK out of the European Union by the end of October.



    • Richard Pinder says:

      Can you use the words Traitor or Betrayal at home, or if reported, will the police arrest you for far right-wing thoughts.

      I remember growing up in a free world where right-wing people loved democracy and left-wing people loved the authoritarian Soviet Union.

      I now live in a world where right-wing people love democracy and left-wing people love the authoritarian European Union.

      The difference is that the establishment used to support right-wing democracy, and now we are living in an upper class left-wing authoritarian nightmare with the authorities wanting to imprison the right-wing lovers of democracy for using the words Traitor and Betrayal about MP’s who don’t respect democracy and wont give us an election for us to get rid of them because they want to stay in power so they can outlaw the words Traitor and Betrayal.


    • JamesArthur says:

      I listened to part of a R4 prog today on the history of peace – it was quite interesting except the narrative was that Christianity is a blood thirsty religion with infighting between its various strands
      But somehow painted Islam as relatively benign and made no mention of the various factions that have been fighting each other for centuries whereas in general most Christians do get along..a typical BBC twist of the tale..


  47. G says:

    I don’t recall hearing anything about this topic on our Marxist State Broadcaster’s news bulletins:
    “Labour Party conference motion on immigration”
    Perhaps the Marxist’s prefer to keep it from the public? Why I wonder.
    Migration Watch comment –
    Not unlike Brexit with an uncompromising majority of the public just wanting ‘out’, similarly, that same uncompromising majority don’t want to hear about ‘integration’ and ‘reasonable numbers’ they just want it stopped.


    • cromwell says:

      It was voted through luckily for Corbin etc. when he came back early for recommencement of parliament. There was a cry of oh, suprise from the labour party when it was voted through. They must think we are as stupid as their voters to think it was done behind their back.The BBC of course didn’t push this at all, didn’t put it in their news report and when they had labour ministers on just gently gave them a soft question and waived the ineffective reply, just a normal response from them as they do the opposite approach to a Tory.
      Have you noticed the way BBC have started to interview a minister about their brief they have come on to discuss and the interview quickly moves on to another subject be it Boris,Brexit etc. Happened with Matt Hancock this morning and yesterday and Tobias Ellwood this lunchtime.Its a new form of sabotaging the interview, they are all at it.Thankfully both men wouldn’t go down the trap and advised they have not come to be interviewed about that. Thank God they are showing a bit bottle.


  48. MarkyMark says:

    BBC Tony Hall £450,000

    Francesca Unsworth, Director, News and Current Affairs £340,000

    Director, News and Current Affairs – decides that YELLOW VESTS shall not be shown!


    Miss Francesca Unsworth (buys sandwich using BBC money for other people)
    Internal hospitality
    Hospitality For Meetings Potential QT presenter


  49. StewGreen says:

    Labour MP Stephen Hepburn suspended ..sexual investigation


    • cromwell says:

      Let’s see if bbbc hound him about it like they did Boris , it was 14 years ago I think, but she said she remembers very well.
      BBC ….tumbleweed, then disappear.