Weekend Thread 5 October 2019

Much despondency on the site and the various bits of the State are not doing themselves any favours – including of course the biased State Broadcaster.

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318 Responses to Weekend Thread 5 October 2019

  1. vlad says:

    “France probes security agency ‘threats’ after police killer with high-level clearance revealed as Islamic ‘radical’ ” – Sunday Telegraph

    I suspect that’s code for ‘France admits its security services are infested with radical muslims’. And I suspect the same applies here. Thank you diversity recruitment.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/06/france-probes-security-agency-threats-police-killer-high-level/

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  2. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I hope I don’t upset anyone on here as this is not bbc bias but watching gogglebox there have been a few parts on Boris, Cummings and the h of c.

    Channel 4 has gone into maximum anti Boris/Brexit mode, cutting off half what was said and showing every comment by the watchers as total hate for Boris.
    Even saying things like “he looks bad” and “he’s got no eyebrows” in between the slagging off.
    I didn’t notice one positive comment or anyone supporting him or Brexit.

    None of the 52% represented on the gogglebox families.
    All one sided.

    Maybe they have lots of ex bbc personnel working there contaminating another tv channel just as cancer spreads through the body.

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  3. vlad says:

    NOT on Al-beeb: “A nursery was forced to hand back Government funding for tackling radicalisation following a backlash from the local Muslim community, a report has revealed.

    The nursery, based in Stoke-on-Trent, was awarded a grant from the Home Office’s Building a Stronger Britain Together (BSBT) scheme for a project aimed at challenging far-right perceptions.

    But it announced in June that it will return the funding and withdraw from the project “with immediate effect”.

    It is the latest organisation to have come under pressure over its cooperation with the Government’s counter-extremism work…” – ST.

    Two things stand out in this article:

    1) If the muslim community are against ‘counter-extremism schemes’, does that mean they support, or at least tolerate, extremism?

    2) Was this even really an anti-radicalisation scheme, or was it “a project aimed at challenging far-right perceptions”? In other words aimed at tackling the secondary symptoms rather than the primary cause?

    The whole approach of the authorities is limp-wristed and pusillanimous, concerned more with not offending muslims than with stamping out the disease of radicalism (or islam as it’s sometimes known) when what is desperately needed is robustness.

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/05/nursery-forced-return-government-counter-extremism-funding-following/

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  4. theisland says:

    Kir Royal all round.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Sweeney is just the one who got caught lying. The BBC and much of the rest of the MSM is stuffed full of them. To the modern liberal left the virtue of their view , their politics , is so overwhelming that the end always justifies the means. Anyone that doesn’t share their views is an evil person who has no right to exist and can be got rid of, brought down, by any and all means. This is exactly what has been on in the USA since Trump was elected where the media and the Dems are just lying time after time to try and discredit the President in the eyes of the people. But it wearing thin and increasingly people are seeing through it. Here we see the same with Brexit.

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    • StewGreen says:

      “Nadiya Hussain reveals suicide attempt
      after being sexually assaulted *by a relative* “

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      • vlad says:

        Just a cultural misunderstanding.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        I never like to decry someone who has suffered as a child, but why is she bringing this all up now ? A year ago we had the saga of her depression and anxiety, so why not mention it then ? I cant help but think this is an “Agent” thing, – she’s been out of the limelight for a month or two, so her Agent reckons its no bad thing to get her some publicity again. Me cynical, afraid so.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Shocked I tell you… shocked!

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  5. LastChanceSaloon says:

    2019-10-06 15:32 Boris in The Sun.

    “After decades of campaigning, three years of arguments and seemingly endless months of pointless delay,
    it is now just 25 days until the United Kingdom’s membership of the European Union comes to an end.
    We will be packing our bags and walking out on October 31.
    The only question is whether Brussels cheerily waves us off with a mutually agreeable deal, or whether
    we will be forced to head off on our own.”

    I do want to watch the EU faces when we leave, better than the BBC after referendum.
    Prefer no deal, save £39 billion.
    Boris, ensure this mutually agreeable deal does not have Theresa the Traitors’ fingerprints anywhere.

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  6. fakenewswatcher says:

    Editorial comment in ‘Die Welt’ bemoans the fact that German media found it so difficult to provide details about the killer of Paris for a long time after the killing, and what an unhealthy situation this is. Of course, this would never happen in the UK.
    This is followed by an article bemoaning the infiltration of various authorities and Jobcentres by Kurdish-Lebanese criminal gangs (‘clans’) in Northrhein-Westphalia. Of course, this too, could never happen in the UK.
    There are also negative articles about how German society has been changed by ‘migration’, and the complaint that Germany is taking too many migrants from any and every boat. Fortunately, this is unheard of in the UK.
    eerie though, how they get all that stuff and suddenly MSM are waking up, innit?

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  7. Guest Who says:

    Emily knows who she likes.

    Proofreaders not included.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      GW
      Hypercritical.
      You need to understand that BBC staff are artists with the written word.
      Artists of this merit must be allowed untrammelled opportunities to demonstrate their excellence.
      The expression of genius must not be restricted by obsolete standards.

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  8. Guest Who says:

    Thanks to ITTB, I find myself pondering when the views of bbc staff, and ex-staff, cease to be those of the bbc and become ‘their own’.

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/10/huw-know-who.html#comment-form

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/10/these-are-not-views-of-bbc.html

    Because, as I look from Emily to Paul, from Nick to Gavin, and back to James or Naga, I can’t tell the difference at all.

    That statue at the front door becomes a greater symbol of irony each day.

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  9. Cassandra says:

    I’m in a bit of a quandary. This isn’t anything to do with the BBC but only because the BBC has not reported it in any of their news reports.
    Catch 22 really because a poster recently said that posts should only be about BBC bias because some posts were not about the BBC and could be interpreted as being racist.
    I’ll let you read the report from a national newspaper, which also featured on the front page of The Manchester Evening News but as I have said, not mentioned on any BBC news channels.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/10069307/manchester-arndale-evacuated-centre-news/

    To me it is obvious why the BBC has not commented on the gang that was pepper sprayed in The Arndale Centre in Manchester for antisocial and violent behaviour (which was so serious that the shopping centre was closed by the police to deal with the situation).

    Would this being an example of lying by omission by the BBC or is The Sun and myself being racist by asking people to read the report?

    I am of the opinion that tolerance in this country has been weaponised so that if you bring attention to an incident like this, there is a very good chance you will be called a racist. This was demonstrated very clearly when a member of the the Question Time audience called out Bonnie Greer when she said her Polish friend was too frightened to talk in Polish to her child on the bus because Greer said that people where more racist now because of Brexit.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Cassandra
      I understand the vexation – as discussion drifts I like to leave it alone as much as possible – and it’s tricky when the subject is about ‘omission’ or distortion of ‘reality ‘ by the state broadcaster .i edit stuff have asked someone to leave the site but I really do try to exercise as lighter hand as possible .

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      • taffman says:

        The question is, what is not being reported by Al Beeb and the MSM ?
        I fear that all social media will be censored before long .
        On the ‘up side’ of all of this ……………
        “You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all the time, but you cannot fool all the people all the time.”
        An example of this ? Despite all the hype, drama and propaganda and the government’s £9m leaflet drop, the majority of people in the UK voted democratically to leave the EU in back in 2016.
        And we are still waiting ………………

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      • Cassandra says:

        Thanks for that, Fed. For what it’s worth,I think you do a good job.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Thank you Cassandra – I’ve been called very bad words today which have been put in the trash . I was going to leave them up to gauge reaction . Once upon a time it used to upset me . Same with ‘censoring ‘ comments – now it’s just a ‘take it or leave ‘ job .

          I can’t remember why I chose my user name but it was well chosen .

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    • vlad says:

      This blog-site is about bbc bias. Omission is also a form of bias – in fact it’s probably the one most used by the beeb.
      It therefore behooves us to expose the stories al-beeb does not publish.
      Indeed those stories could fill quite a well-padded newspaper on their own.

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      • davylars says:

        As a rule, I do try to put up posts about the BBC, but there is so much omission from the beeb (and other msm outlets) that should be in the public interest. I find this site an important source of news that I would probably never have found out.
        An example being last week I posted about the F35 lightning and the typhoon eurofighter showing how the EU is stiffing us.
        This type of information would never have been broadcast because of the pro EU stance by our public broadcaster, or if it was, buried away from the masses.
        Sometimes I find some posts irrelevant, but that’s just me.
        If I’m not interested, I don’t read it… simples

        Oh, and a question. Is inverted racism a form of bias? or are we racists for pointing it out?

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      • pertelote says:

        “This blog-site is about bbc bias. Omission is also a form of bias – in fact it’s probably the one most used by the beeb.”
        >vlad..agree with that!

        “It therefore behoves us to expose the stories al-beeb does not publish. Indeed those stories could fill quite a well-padded newspaper on their own.”

        I agree even more!!

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        • cromwell says:

          Fed up Can I say thank you so much for the time you devote to this site, it is appreciated, I love reading this site. Everyone who contributes makes an effort to inform and even if it’s not about BBC bias it is about the bias that they leave out of their news that is also important to read. Thank you to all the people who make the effort to let the rest of us know what is going on as sometimes it is so hard to watch any news from MSM and I for one am so thankfull to everyone on here. I think some people are getting wound up here and I think Brexit deal or no deal has a lot to do with it.People just have to wind their necks in a bit, it is coming to a head now and we must not fall out with each other, reserve that for the b*****ds in the hop who are trying to sell us down the river. Once again thank you Fedu p.

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  10. taffman says:

    “Brexit: We can do a deal if EU is willing – Johnson”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49950188
    IMHO the EU are not going to give us a deal .
    The fools in Parliament have stitched him up by voting against leaving without a deal. So, all the EU has to do is not give him a deal . We are stuck , unless of course Boris has something up his sleeve . He better had or he and the Tories are finished.
    Its The Brexit Party for me .

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  11. lojolondon says:

    Hope this Twitter link works – interesting comments about John Sweeney and BBC “journalism”.

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  12. Guest Who says:

    Katya clearly smitten. But still knows how to phrase things just so’s it seems like ‘analysis’.

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Katya clearly smitten. But still knows how to phrase things just so’s it seems like ‘analysis’.

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  14. pugnazious says:

    John Humphrys in the Telegraph:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/10/06/john-humphrys-says-bbc-sympathetic-trans-issues/

    ‘The BBC is sympathetic to transgender issues where it should be detached, John Humphrys has said, as he accused the corporation of liberal bias.

    The former host of Radio 4’s Today programme said the corporation is out of step with public opinion, making the same mistake as it did in the 1990s when it failed to understand the concerns about immigration.

    BBC executives see the world “through a particular lens”, Humphrys said.

    “If you take something like transgender, the mindset is such that we must kind of accept what the prevailing view is, except that their idea of ‘the prevailing view’ and perhaps mine and some other people’s might be slightly different.”

    “[I] feel slightly worried when large numbers of children are being told, ‘You think you might be a girl or you think you might be a boy? We’ll go and get you medical attention.’

    “I’m uneasy about that and I’m uneasy about children being told in schools there are more than 100 different genders and it’s possible for someone to change gender overnight.

    “I’m worried about where it’s heading. The BBC’s attitude with that sort of social development is to be immediately sympathetic, not entirely detached as it should be.”

    Sky has reported today that many transgender people feel they made a mistake and want to go back to their normal gender…

    https://news.sky.com/story/hundreds-of-young-trans-people-seeking-help-to-return-to-original-sex-11827740

    ”Hundreds’ of young trans people seeking help to return to original sex ‘

    ‘”I’m in communication with 19 and 20-year-olds who have had full gender reassignment surgery who wish they hadn’t, and their dysphoria hasn’t been relieved, they don’t feel better for it,” she says.

    “They don’t know what their options are now.”
    “I think some of the common characteristics are that they tend to be around their mid-20s, they’re mostly female and mostly same-sex attracted, and often autistic as well.”

    Ruby voiced the growing doubts she had been harbouring and made the decision to come off testosterone and detransition to identify as female.
    “I didn’t think any change was going to be enough in the end and I thought it was better to work on changing how I felt about myself, than changing my body,” says Ruby.

    “I’ve seen similarities in the way I experience gender dysphoria, in the way I experience other body image issues.”

    Ruby explains she has also had an eating disorder but she does not feel that issue was explored in the therapy sessions she had when she went to gender identity services.’

    You might think that ‘gender dysphoria’ had more to do with mental health issues than a genuine desire and need to change gender…and in often very young children this may be driven by trans activist propaganda, so often peddled by the BBC itself, that persuades them that they have a problem….you might ask how on earth these young children would have any idea about what they really need and what they really feel…exploited and so heavily influenced as they might be by people with an agenda.

    Perhaps the BBC should stop promoting gender transitioning and stick to reporting….the same with so many other subjects of course that it can’t resist messaging on…such as the eco-terrorist group Extinction Rebellion which it promotes relentlessly…only yesterday telling us we’ve only made progress on tackling climate change due to the actions of ER…the same ER which wants to close down Heathrow and will attempt to shut London for two weeks.

    I’m sure the BBC’s finest will be in attendance giving them copious and very positive coverage…ignoring the total chaos, hospitals closed, jobs lost, economy wrecked and maybe lives lost….it’ll all be a price worth paying to save the planet.

    I have no doubt the chancer Khan will be dancing along instead of doing his job and protecting and promoting London….maybe if ‘London’ sued these people and made them pay for all the chaos, the policing, the lost business and the upset and disturbance to peoples’ lives they might think twice about the ‘fun’.

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    • Sluff says:

      There is some research from an American institute which showed that suicide rates among transgenders, already very high, actually go up further as people go along the gender re-assignment path.
      A factor all those pro-transgender pressure groups manage not to notice, as indeed equally does the BBC.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      The beeb have no business pushing this destructive agenda. Expecting the licence fee payer to supplement it, is a further outrage.
      They must be complicit in some suicides? Does the law have anything to say about that? Or has society become so insane that they think this is acceptable?

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  15. Tabs says:

    “The Americas with Simon Reeve” on BBC2 started off with a stunning flight through an Alaskan glacier valley. The pilot said she has seen the glacier get smaller over the last 20 years. Reeves when back on the ground does his bit to camera “the evidence of man made climate change is so clear here”.
    Errr…. evidence of climate change, yes, but evidence it is man made, no.

    Climate change and enviromental activists seemed to feature throughout the entire programme. Some indigenous folk using about 5 petrol snow mobiles to hunt a handful of local deer but were moaning about new oil drilling would scare the deer away. “It’s our way of life”, moaned one. Well if you want your petrol then have some oil drilling in your own back yard instead of someone elses.

    Virtue signalling is the theme of the programme. Plenty of Reeves hugs with people who are sad or moaning.

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  16. pugnazious says:

    Interesting to see how the BBC and Codswallop react to this….the Party of Remain mining data to target you with ads…..

    https://news.sky.com/story/the-lib-dems-are-using-data-to-profile-every-voter-in-uk-and-give-you-a-score-11828202

    ‘The Lib Dems are using data to profile every voter in UK – and give you a score

    The Liberal Democrats are profiling every voter in the country by rating their political preferences, Sky News can reveal.

    This includes which party they will vote for in the next election and whether they are a Remainer or Leaver.
    The Liberal Democrats also use software which estimates the age and first language of voters by analysing their names.
    The data used to create the scores comes from a range of sources, including the UK electoral register, phone and doorstep canvassing, anonymous online surveys, and publicly available data such as census area classifications, which categorise different regions according to their populations.

    The Liberal Democrats also employed “consumer/market research data”, which it bought from a third party. This information on lifestyle and financial behaviour is frequently used by political parties to target voters in specific areas.

    Asked about the purpose of the scores, the Liberal Democrats told Sky News they were used to decide which people would receive campaign leaflets.

    They could also be used to target social media ads at you…no different to what the BBC et al were outraged about with Cambridge Analytica…never mind CA had nothing to do with Brexit and the data it obtained [within Facebook’s rules at the time] was for the US election and not anything to do with the UK. Codswallop and the BBC lied and continue to lie about this.

    Let’s see if they want to tell a few home truths about the Liberal Democrats trying to ‘steal Brexit’.

    However this is the BBC that itself mines your data…story the other day that the BBC refused to allow its programmes to be channelled through Amazon’s Alexa because Amazon wouldn’t pass on customers’ data to the BBC.

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/10/01/bbc_tunein_radio_streams_pulled/

    ‘The BBC has once again drawn ire from the loyal TV licence-paying public by pulling its live radio streams from third-party services.

    Perhaps listeners would have gone quietly over to the BBC Sounds app launched earlier this year – which is very much part of the motivation for the move – were it not for Old Auntie Beeb’s bare-faced admission that such outside platforms simply weren’t providing the broadcaster with enough of your delicious data.

    Kieran Clifton, director of BBC Distribution & Business Development, went on to explain the reasoning behind the decision: “We want our programmes, products and services to be the best they can be. And a major way we ensure that is by using meaningful data.

    “Data is more and more important – as it helps us to make more types of programmes we know people like, and equally importantly, identify gaps in our commissioning to ensure we’re making something for all audiences.

    “We also use the data collected about what you watch, listen to or read online to offer personalised programme recommendations – and make our services even more tailored to you.”

    Here’s the rub, though: “When we make our programmes available via third parties, we ask that those platforms either allow you to sign into your BBC account – or provide us with meaningful data directly. Unfortunately, TuneIn doesn’t do either of these, so we couldn’t reach a data sharing agreement with them.”

    To add insult to injury, Clifton said: “Outside the UK, our services with TuneIn will continue as is – as they are and continue to be a valued partner.” So it is the people who actually pay for the BBC to exist who are getting shafted.’

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    • taffman says:

      I think that the end is nigh for Al Beeb if Boris or The Brexit Party win the next general election and I think that ‘Lord Hall Hall’ knows it ?

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        taffman -I like your optimism!
        Trouble is, they’ve got away with outrageous bias of all kinds for so long, Hall probably thinks he’s untouchable?
        As long as they have the licence to extort money with menace, they simply carry right on…
        The politician who deals with this will be a hero.

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    • JimS says:

      ” So it is the people who actually pay for the BBC to exist who are getting shafted”.

      I think that has been true for a very long time. Licence payers tend to be from the older end of the population yet the BBC is obsessed with making programmes for ‘the young’, people used to getting entertainment for free. If they watch BBC TV at all they will do it via mobile devices and not pay for a licence.

      BBC Sounds appears to want to become the main source of streaming audio and music in the UK and targets the young yet who is funding it? It is the older TV licence payer for whom the only programmes made for them are ones out of the ‘back-catalogue’, probably paid for by their parents 40 years ago!

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  17. taffman says:

    Anything on Al Beeb about john Sweeney or have they ‘airbrushed’ him out already ?

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  18. john in cheshire says:

    I’m not a protester. It’s not been since my university days that I’ve been on a protest march. And then it was just a fun day out, I had no real idea what I was protesting about.

    But if the Remainer Rats stop us leaving on the 31st. October and if there’s a movement/ uprising to blockade the HoP until the bastards do what we ordered them to do, I think I’ll join it.
    And if someone starts to drag the Remainers out and string’em up I won’t try to stop them.

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    • The General says:

      The sort of people who are Leavers do not protest in the streets. They are at work or tending to family matters or generally getting on with their lives. They will only show dissention in the ballot box.
      As for the BBC. The Conservative Party will not sanction them. They will just put up with the blatant bias and smile beneinly when the BBC insult them or their party.
      I don’t know why this is but it is what happens.

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  19. Celtic_Mist says:

    Just watched the first episode of ‘The Americas with Simon Reeve’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m00095nt/the-americas-with-simon-reeve-series-1-episode-1

    The BBC has a (biased) political agenda with everything it touches and this series promises to be no exception.

    The Telegraph said he hasn’t got the talent –
    “I’ve never been able to get on-board with adventurer Simon Reeve, who the BBC seem grimly determined to turn into a star, despite all evidence to the contrary. He even appeared on Graham Norton’s couch last week, perched awkwardly between Dame Helen Mirren and RuPaul. Quite the queenly sandwich.”
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/tv/2019/10/06/americas-simon-reeve-episode-1-review-cold-comfort-journey/

    The Guardian gets it –
    “Landing among the soaring melting glaciers of Alaska before witnessing the gargantuan oil pipeline which cuts across the once-pristine wilderness of the state, Reeve presents a compelling indictment of the damage we are doing to our vital natural landscapes and resources”
    https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2019/oct/06/tv-tonight-simon-reeve-on-melting-glaciers-in-majestic-alaska

    The Times has a different take –
    ““Champagne!” I imagine the Canadian tourist board said on hearing that the BBC was making a documentary travelling through Canada. Then I imagine their faces turned a little sad. Because the first episode of The Americas with Simon Reeve, in which he will travel the length of the two continents, was not a reverie on spectacular landscapes, caribou and grizzly bears. It was about dirty oil, people living in freezing hovels while down the road billions of dollars were being made, a drug overdose crisis in Vancouver and hundreds of indigenous women going missing, presumed dead, to indifference from the police. Maybe cancel the fizz.
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/times2/the-americas-with-simon-reeve-review-a-travelogue-to-test-even-the-zestiest-presenter-8p03brzq2

    We’ll see

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  20. Celtic_Mist says:

    The replies –

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