465 Responses to Start the week thread 23 September 2019

  1. Halifax says:

    Good morning all. First again and i hope you all have a great week.
    Let’s hope it’s one week nearer
    1. leaving the EU .
    2. The collapse of the Labour party
    3. Abolishment of compulsory subscription to MTV (Marxist)
    4. Trump re-election.
    5. Trudeo being dumped.
    6. New Mayor in London.

    I’m sure there is more but got to get off the train.


    • smoogie7 says:

      Well Labour’s conference has not got off to a good start so I heard so really, that is a good start for everyone else.

      Expect a lot of Guardian styled reporting from the BBC though about how Corbyn was ‘engaging’ and how ‘Labour are on to something’

      The real bias will be next week when Boris has his conference. No doubt they will flood the headlines with stories about how terrible Johnson is and how we are all doomed ect


  2. fakenewswatcher says:

    smoogie7- you would have enjoyed the Labour love-in Carolyn Quinn runs at 10pm every Sunday night on R4, disguised as the news and discussion.
    The conference was just an excuse to agonize and navel-gaze more blatantly than ever. As you say, Quinn will cover the Tory conference, but the vibe will be very different.


  3. fakenewswatcher says:

    Notice Prince Harry is off to racist South Africa. He would obviously never have gone to the apartheid state, but black racism is -of course- no racism at all. So the discriminatory BEE (Black Economic Empowerment), EWC (Expropriation Without Compensation) and a host of discriminatory legislation replacing white workers with black, and grabbing white property, doesn’t count.
    Even when an enterprise collapses because colour of skin doesn’t equate with competence and skills, they don’t seem to mind. If nothing works any more, I’m sure Prince Harry will be shielded from the realities. He will be in the company of ANC leadership, which means looters, corrupt, very rich etc – the new black elite that has taken over every aspect of running the state.
    But Harry won’t mind. He seems to have an agenda of his own. And -much as I hate to say it -encouraging black racism, even if not deliberately- is part of that agenda.


    • Scroblene says:

      I’d rather like him to stay there really.

      You only have to click on any online rag to see him and his other half, gloring out from attending some useless function or other.

      We could then read proper stories about how good life will be in Britain after the end of next month.


      • BRISSLES says:

        My thoughts exactly Scrob – you got there before me. I think most people would like to see the back of them. Marry in haste…………


    • Lefty Wright says:

      Black racism?? Some morons claim that to be an oxymoron.


  4. Thoughtful says:

    Unreported as expected by the BBC is the proposal by Labour, in the light of the Pakistani Muslim rape scandals all over Britain, to scrap the child protection agency so the brown eyed favourites can quietly get on with raping young white girls without fear of prosecution, and the BBC will be right there hushing it all up for them too.


    • Cassandra says:

      From August 2017:


      “A PROMINENT Labour MP and key ally of Jeremy Corbyn shared a social media message telling victims of sickening sex abuse to shut up for “the good of diversity.”
      Naz Shah retweeted and liked a post on Twitter by an account parodying left-wing writer Owen Jones which said: “Those abused girls in Rotherham and elsewhere just need to shut their mouths. For the good of diversity.”

      “Last year the Bradford West MP was suspended by Labour for anti-semitic online posts.
      In one, she shared rants on Facebook calling for Israel to be uprooted and dumped in America. In another she likened Israeli policies to those of Hitler and also wrote: “The Jews are rallying.”
      She later blamed her anti-semitism on “ignorance”.


  5. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning Emole:


    The five-minute chat that led to refugee novel

    Alix Extence was desperate to get her despondent husband out of the house after a hoard of publishers had rejected his first novel. So she signed him up to teach English to foreign nationals in their home city of Sheffield, hoping that would get him out of his slump.

    It was at one such class that Gavin Extence met Zeyn, an Iranian refugee who, in a five-minute conversation, explained how he had fled Iran for the UK to seek asylum, including swimming across the Aegean Sea from Turkey to Greece. “It was eye-opening,” Extence says. “I was astonished. I went home and started looking at maps just to see how it could be done.”

    Read full article >


    Now, what was it about this gem of English literature that first attracted Alix’ PR agency to think the BBC could not resist this epic tale? It’s called ‘Water Taxi for Zeyn’. Apparently.


  6. Guest Who says:

    So, looks like Newsnight have dumped Emma Thompson and are flying in Benedict Cumberbatch to offer insights into Labour election manifesto ambitions.

    He is also set to play Di in ‘Corbs, The Early Years’. Currently training with Justin Trudeau to get under the skin of his character,



  7. Guest Who says:


    Luckily, for their collective salaries of several million, Jon and team only RT The Hill, NYT and CNN, so are safe from any friendly fire by those cheeky chaps in the California social media industry.


  8. Doublethinker says:

    Within the next few hours , or next couple of days at most, we will find out if we live in a democracy or not. If the judges come down on the Miller Major side we certainly don’t . But even if they come down on the side of the Government, they have still taken it upon themselves to pass judgement on what previously would have been regarded as purely political and not something the courts ought to be involved in.
    The Supreme Court is of course another Blair legacy designed to allow the liberal left Globalists to get their way even if it is against what the majority of the people want. Politics, whenever it comes up inconvenient votes or decisions,can now be trumped by liberal left establishment judges. So even a judgement in favour of the government in this particular case doesn’t mean democracy is safe.
    I am 68 and I retired at 62 . In the past six years I have had much more time than when I worked to take an interest in politics and I have been appalled at what I see. It wasn’t a surprise that a lot of the MPs were stupid , I knew that from dealing with a few of them. But I have been shocked by how little they care about the people of this country, Labour, Tory and Lib Dem all seem to regard us with contempt. They love internationalism and Globalism and think it their duty to redistribute our wealth to the third world. They are representatives not of their constituents but of a global elite with tentacles in every institution in this country and in most others. The Remainers battle against Brexit is being fought by the same international elite that is fighting against President Trump. They use any tactic they think might be useful , legal or illegal, they hold the levers of power and use them ruthlessly. Their message is , submit or be crushed. In a democracy Brexit would surely triumph eventually but we don’t live in a democracy any longer and a long hard unremitting struggle lies ahead if democracy is to be reestablished.


  9. theisland says:

    Jeff Taylor talking to Robin Tilbrook 22 mins

    His case about us leaving on 29 March was never heard. On appeal the Europhile judge also refused it to be heard – which incidentally was after BoJo took over. Tilbrook is now appealing to the ECHR, and bringing other legal challenges.
    He asks why don’t Leavers attempt more recourse to the law. Media blackout etc.

    On the few occasions NF has been asked about the Tilbrook case on his show he says something like “we don’t need to talk about that” or words to that effect, and I also recall David Vance having dismissed Tilbrook’s efforts in the past.

    Robin Tilbrook doesn’t seem that loopy to me – am I missing something?


    • Up2snuff says:

      ti, I fear that Robin Tilbrook is asking the Law to do something the Law can never do: it cannot turn back time. It can only apply present remedy to past hurt or wrongdoing.

      I’m not at all surprised the case was chucked out at pre-trial.


  10. Thoughtful says:

    Notes from the Labour Party conference:

    But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.

    “Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”

    “How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.

    “You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”


  11. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    What was the Thomas Cooks collapse was caused by, Trump or Brexit?


    • rthornton says:

      Greta, surely?


      • SPC says:

        Greta, bless her, was ranting this afternoon like she was 65 yrs old.

        How can we ( well not me) put so much pressure on such a young girl.

        I dare any of you to tell me I’m wrong.

        Shame on the amoeba’s in the climate change slurry.


        • Fiter says:

          I would like to thank Greta every time i see her i remember her first visit to these shores.
          Who can forget the sight of Ed Milliband masterbating while she gave a speech


    • Cassandra says:

      Sky News just blamed Brexit for the demise of Thomas Cook.


    • Thoughtful says:

      The real reason appears to be poor management and over expansion. If the cause genuinely was Brexit then every other holiday company would be in the same boat, but the fact they aren’t gives the game away.


  12. Thoughtful says:

    Really really troubling insight into the crazed anti White British race hate of the Nazi / Fascist Labour Party:


    YouGov’s poll of over 1,100 members shows how out of touch with Labour voters the middle-class lefties really are:

    79% want to control who runs newspapers
    69% think it would be legitimate for unions to stage a general strike to bring down a Tory government;
    TWO THIRDS believe the party doesn’t have a problem with anti-Semitism, OVER HALF believe the crisis is the fault of the media or Corbyn’s opponents;
    Members would rather do a post-Brexit trade deal with Russia than Israel!

    Astounding difference with popular opinion shows how out of touch with the working classes Labour is nowadays:

    TWO-THIRDS are ashamed of Britain’s history;
    MORE blame the British Government and Army for the Troubles in Northern Ireland than say it was the fault of the IRA;
    MORE THAN HALF would feel bored, embarrassed or angry about singing the National Anthem – only 10% would be happy to sing “God Save the Queen”
    SIX in ten want to abolish the royals for a republic;


    • rthornton says:

      Indistinguishable from student union politics, 1970s style then?

      That’s exactly what it is. They never grew up.


      • Thoughtful says:

        I don’t believe the Students Union of the 1970s was given to anti White race hate, nor anti Semitism either.

        It was all about CND (the nukes haven’t gone away, but the Soviet Union has so why is it not an issue anymore?)

        They weren’t so much into controlling private industry (a Fascist idea) they wanted to nationalise it.

        There are distinct differences between a Communist idealist past and todays Fascist / Nazi Left in the West.


        • rthornton says:

          I was thinking more of the negative mentality, which I remember quite clearly. Some of the targets might have changed, but not that much. Another similarity is identifying victim groups that can be used as cannon fodder. In the 1970s they claimed to be fighting for the working class, now it’s BAMEs, gays (and variations thereof) etc. Same mentality.

          As for the distinction between controlling private industry and nationalising it, the motivation is the same. They define themselves according what they are against, not what they are in favour of.

          They weren’t too keen on genuine debate back then, either.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Labour is now the party of public sector employees and immigrants.

      Its traditional bedrock of support, the white working class, disgusts it. The white proles supported Enoch Powell back in the 1960s. They had to be replaced, and Labour imported a new client base to take their place.

      Now the white proles have voted for Brexit, proving to Labour that they are beneath contempt.

      Nonetheless, white proles in large numbers still vote Labour on automatic pilot, as if it were still 1945. If only they could grasp the utter contempt the London Labour elite have for them, they would never vote Labour again.

      I can only hope that this message gets across to the white working class. Whilst Labour was led by vaguely moderate looking people such as Kinnock, Blair and Miliband it was largely hidden. Now that Labour has fallen into the hands of hard left Marxists it should be obvious. Labour hates Britain, and it hates the white working class who do not share its vision for a soviet socialist state.

      It is time for the white working class to wise up and vote for a party which does not hate them or Britain. The Brexit Party would be a good place to start.


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        Who votes Labour?
        Those on benefits, public sector “workers”, non whites.
        The non-productive, the barely productive, the counter- productive.


  13. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 Funny how Global Warming & Climate Emergencies disappear like mist

    before the rising sun of John McDonnell. John uses lots of traditional honest and open language in explaining how he is willing to have a debate about anything. Including Thomas Cook.

    Labour would have given Thomas Cook lots of taxpayer money to keep going with CO2 emissions. But there would be ‘strings attached’.

    Not hot air balloons, John? Surely not? Do they not cause Global Warming, too?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2 – the uncle John McDonnell Act is getting better – he is doing his happy uncle john act whilst making a list of dissenters he will hang once in power . He is the actual leader of the socialists and once Comrade Corbyn is dispensed with he ll take over fully .
      The bee keeper gave him an easy time but to be expected – it one thinks of it the only TV journo worthy of these interviews is Brillo and I don’t think he ll be on the State Broadcaster much longer .
      On a more important issue – it seems the Lords sent going to rule on BoJo today . So whatever the outcome it won’t be unanimous…


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, Martha & Part-time (Laura K) were quite enthusiastic in their doubt casting and got quite jolly afterwards over the splits appearing in New Remain Labour Party or Remain New Labour Party or Old Communists Have Stuck Around Labour Party.

        Agree that Jezza appears to be living on borrowed time.

        The list of possible replacements mooted on TOADY was rather worrying: it included your fave Rebecca Long Bailey and Angela Rayner. Shami nowhere to be seen. Oh dear!


        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2 – I switched off before Laura could do a re interpretation . Competition is fierce for the top job but from a popcorn point of view it has to be dawn butler v angie Raynor – quality .

          McDonnell has stopped doing his everyone “ pay a little bit more tax “ routine he was using last year but is silent on increasing NI or Income tax which is always a labour favourite .

          Becky wrong daily would nt have the laughs of the other front bench clowns…


          • Up2snuff says:

            Fed, you missed a treat then. The casual listener could almost be forgiven for thinking the BBC were unbiased or balanced.


    • JimS says:

      I’m sure there is a role for Thomas Cook in the Socialist Utopia.

      There are all those Africans ‘needing’ to come here and the 55 million ‘far-right’ here ‘needing’ to go to Siberia.

      Lots of flights to arrange I think.


  14. Cassandra says:

    To save viewers a lot of time, this is how BBC News will report the Labour Party conference and London stabbings et al this week…



  15. pugnazious says:

    Well that’s a darned shame ain’t it?….

    We can’t all be Greta, but your choices have a ripple effect

    Never mind that infamous 97% of all scientists that the BBC deferred to before, now the BBC prefers to listen to a strange 16 year old kid with a doomsday message.

    Today was barracking the UN for not listening to her as well…and damn what the science says. 2050 just ain’t quick enough…because Greta says so.

    Nick Robinson still in love with the Great Greta methinks.

    Do laugh at this…

    She’s not thinking outside the box, she’s peddling the orthodox mainstream view peddled by the BBC for years, she’s regurgitating stuff she’s been force fed by parents, teaachers and activists…there’s no thinking going on at all…and her only message is ‘be more radical and extreme’…she has to position herself as an extremist or else she is just another establishment voice pushing the ‘climate emergency’…now she’s a revolutionary wanting action faster.

    As with all good jokes it’s all in the timing.


  16. digg says:

    While Humpty Dumpty Jeremy continues to sit on the Wall, the real leader Old McDonald tells us what is going to happen. First an election which will be a huge Labour victory, then a final say referendum which will only have remain and a deal. Labour will back remain full on. Jeremy will say “Ermmm”

    Only one little problem, the latest YouGov voting poll…

    Voting Intention: Con 32%, Lab 23%, Lib Dem 19%, Brex 14% (9-10 Sep)

    However in Labour La La Land this doesn’t seem to be a factor at all!

    And they want to run the country, you have been warned!


    • smoogie7 says:

      Some polls have the Tories even higher. A 15 point lead over Labour is their highest score since the last GE but take no notice of that Boris bounce, it is not good for opposition parties trying to stop Brexit as it is clear that their attempt to try and tie Johnson’s hand is not sitting well with the public


  17. Beltane says:

    Competition Time:
    Based on the headline ‘Top lawyer warns that meat eating may become illegal’ construct a sentence containing the words:
    Charlatan, Mansfield, waggon, unprincipled, leech and band.
    Winners will be announced at the end of the Labour Party conference.


    • Cassandra says:

      This Alan Partridge sketch MUST have been based on the ‘enfant terrible of The Inner Temple’, the radical barrister, Michael Mansfield.



    • Guest Who says:

      Lost me at ‘Top lawyer’. I am Shakespearean on this profession now.

      At Uni I knew a lot of law undergrads. Bright folk all. Fun. Then they all seemed to get ushered into the same room smelling of Brimstone that most politicians do, to emerge utterly venal sociopaths.

      Few were stupid. Those that are the BBC find. Must be in the same club. Often linked by ‘QC’ and #FBPE


      • Beltane says:

        Apropos the Partridge link, another of life’s ironies is that Michael appears to be modelling his attractions on the declining years of Oscar Wilde. Probably the Irish sympathies coming to the fore again.


  18. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Mind your language

    The 8.10am prime interview slot was occupied by John McDonnell because Jeremy Corbyn MP (Lab) (Party Leader) (time being) is deemed unfit to be allowed out on his own in front of a BBC R4 microphone. Strange, because he did the Andrew Marr show on BBC telly, I am told.

    John McDonnell was quizzed by BeeBeeboid Martha who dared to interrupt at one point and was told off. If only Conservative MPs and Government Ministers were so robust.

    Anyway, I loved the phrases used by McDonnell. It was like using the Tardis to return to the 1960s and 1970s and more, recently 1997-2010, just listening to him and his choice of words and ‘standard Labour’ phrases.

    Will the nation wake up to the vacuousness of all that is the Labour Party?

    Sadly, I doubt it. They will grab hold of the bribes offered and hand over their votes in return.


    • pugnazious says:

      Great interview, rigorous, challenging and explored the issues indepth forcing McDonnell to state his position clearly and without equivocation.

      Or did I dream that?

      Did I not just hear Kearney continually press McDonnell to campaign for Remain, again and again with no questioning the somewhat undemocratic nature of that being that that question has already been answered in 2016. However Kearney’s integrity kicked in and she finally got around to asking if maybe, perhaps, ‘no-deal’ should be on the referendum ballot [because of course we’re going to have a ballot]….it was a fleeting moment and one that McDonnell brushed aside with the thought that he couldn’t allow people to have that option as jobs were at stake…and of course only he was wise and thoughtful enough to make such a decision for us all. Kearney naturally raised no issues with that Stalinist attitude at all.

      Maybe once Labour is in power it will be the same…you can’t have a general election, or at least a choice of parties, as jobs are at stake…only Labour policies protect jobs thus you can’t be allowed to choose anyone else. Is this Zimbabwe or the Soviet Union?

      The BBC has a huge issue with proroging the corrupt, dishonest, shameless Remain dictatorship it calls ‘Parliament’ but seems totally unconcerned about Labour’s proroging of democracy and the 2016 referendum result.


      • Up2snuff says:

        pug, I noticed that use of phrase ‘jobs were at stake’ and if I had been sat in Martha’s seat I would have pointed out that UK trade with EU has declined by a third since 1992 (it is a continuing trend, I understand) and that being in the EU did not prevent massive job losses in the UK (and EU) in 2007-2009 and that EU unemployment appears to be on the rise again. I would have pressed JmcD for his precise reply on each in turn.

        Then I would have raised the question of the UK Steel Industry and the harm that an EU directive did to jobs in that sector of British industry.

        Sadly, our beloved BeeBeboid had no real sting available.


    • JimS says:

      “Sadly, I doubt it. They will grab hold of the bribes offered and hand over their votes in return.”

      Yes, but ‘we didn’t know what we were voting for’, so that doesn’t count and any government decision can be challenged in the courts, because only the EU Commission has right and constancy of purpose on its side. (Katya Adler constantly tells us, so it must be true).


  19. pugnazious says:

    Is the BBC being strictly honest or are they twisting the truth and dodging the bigger picture as they ‘debunk’ minor ‘facts’ and claim this proves the whole narrative therefore untrue?

    I saw this tweet and started to look to see if indeed good old Soros had his finger in this cutie-pie…so to speak….

    What you immediately come across is the BBC Monitoring’s debunking service which refutes anything that contradicts the orthodoxy…

    ‘Elite globalist movement’
    ‘Hungarian-American billionaire George Soros has once again been a target of a disinformation campaign portraying him as a sinister puppet master in cahoots with a liberal elite who funds “globalist” plots that are diametrically opposed to the interests of ordinary voters.’

    The BBC derides claims that Soros is funding migrants…via credit or debit cards but waves aside the fact that he is funding migrants to the tune of $500 million as if it were totally irrelevant to the accusations against him…

    From BBC Monitoring:
    ‘The fact-checking website Snopes debunked the claim at the time, explaining that the original piece had conflated a United Nations Refugee Agency programme launched in 2011 with a separate humanitarian partnership involving Mr Soros and the credit card provider MasterCard announced in 2017.’

    Mastercard are providing vouchers for migrants, Soros is providing[in this case alone…many others I’m sure] $500 million, and the UNHCR is providing debit cards for migrants to access their handouts easier….and Soros has deep links to the UNHCR of course…remember this… as pushed by the BBC as well….

    ‘Meet the Somalis is a collection of 14 illustrated stories depicting the real life experiences of Somalis in seven cities in Europe: Amsterdam, Copenhagen, Helsinki, Leicester, London, Malmö, and Oslo.

    The project was commissioned by American financier George Soros’ Open Society Foundations.’

    George boasts of the funding himself…

    Why I’m Investing $500 Million in Migrants

    The point of the critics is entirely missed by the BBC…that all this funding, these handouts, are acting as a massive draw pulling in millions of migrants looking for free cash and an easy life…they’re not asylum seekers, they’re economic migrants…and Soros is funding the honey-pot to encourage them to come here.

    Then we have this…

    ‘Greta Thunberg conspiracies’
    ‘Swedish teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg has consistently appeared in memes and images linking her to a secret “elite globalist movement”.
    Some viral memes suggested Miss Thunberg was funded by Bill and Melinda Gates, Bono and George Soros through her “supervisor” Luisa Neubauer, a 23-year-old German activist and one of the young ambassadors of One Campaign, a non-profit advocacy organisation that campaigns against poverty, mainly in Africa.’

    Trouble is…it’s true…but the BBC denies it whilst admitting it…

    ‘The full list of One Campaign’s donors is available on its website. Mr Soros’s Open Society Foundations is one of many listed on the website.

    The insinuation that Ms Neubauer and Miss Thunberg are therefore directly controlled by Mr Soros is unfounded.’

    Hmmm…so Soros does fund the One Campiagn…and note the slippery not ‘directly controlled’….because of course he is in there funding her and the One Campaign…he was a founder member of that campaign…..

    ‘ONE originated in conversations between Bill Gates and Bono in the early 2000s about the need to better inform Americans about extreme poverty around the world. Together with Melinda Gates, Bobby Shriver, George Soros, Ed Scott, Bob Geldof, and Jamie Drummond, they created an anti-poverty advocacy organization called DATA that focused on deploying celebrities and other influential individuals to urge world leaders to take action on specific development issues. Within a few years, DATA had joined with several other organizations to form ONE.’

    George Soros and the ‘global elite’, including the BBC, are funding and/or backing Thunberg….he may not be there ‘directly controlling’ her, sat by her side pulling the strings but his activist servant, Luisa Neubauer [a One Campaign ambassador], is literally there ‘guiding’ Thunberg in what too say, what to do and who to speak to.

    As the site the BBC calls ‘Far-Right’ and claims it has debunked says….

    ‘Behind every world famous 16 year old climate activist there is a liberal oligarch and a globalist movement.’

    It’s true.


    • G.W.F. says:

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      Annual costs for children with low-functioning ASD who are living in residential or foster placements
      were estimated to be £16,185 (for children aged 0-3 years), £40,578 (aged 4-11) and £62,536
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      children with high-functioning ASD ranged from £1,214 to £21,090. These costs exclude informal
      care by families.




  20. G says:

    I’m intrigued by the analogy to the, “Ripple Effect”. This, ‘effect’ has been common parlance within the scientific community for decades. It’s known as, ‘Chaos’. In essence, the analogy goes, a butterfly flapping its wings half a World away World would, in some measure, will have a tangible effect on you. The problem as I see it in even suggesting that the Chaos theory applies, is that even in a totally chaotic situation, eventually, all factors within that chaotic situation settle down to a common fairly predictable pattern. Naturally. Put simply, all things settle down to a natural state, eventually.
    Following the Justin Rowlatt, ‘Ripple’ theory, does not bode well for his employer, our Marxist State Broadcaster as the numbers of those unlicensed or simply turning the tv off, is growing – daily.
    Long may that ‘Ripple Effect’ continue.
    Good basic book on Chaos: James Gleick – ‘Chaos, The Amazing Science of the Unpredictable’. Word of warning though, readers need some scientific knowledge.


  21. Philip_2 says:

    I was intrigued by this Climate Change Quiz which those Climate Change protestors are blissfully unaware of in certain lefty held schools. Send this to the kids and so called ‘teachers’ of ill repute with notably BBC influencers and full time media promoters of Alarm (isms) and cultural anarchy. Have a go yourself here, its an education…


  22. Guest Who says:

    The Today Programme

    The secret power of introverts…

    (Via @BBC World Service)


    Now, who could this be about?


  23. pugnazious says:

    BBC so so out of touch….

    Emma Barnett just now….

    ‘The Conservatives have just prorogued Parliament and are in the supreme court now…Labour should be streets ahead [in the polling]’

    Yeah but…people like the fact Boris has prorogued the Remain Parliament for whatever reason…the beneficial side-benefit being they can’t fast track corrupt laws blocking Brexit.

    The BBC just doesn’t get it.

    The BBC that gave a Labour activist lots of sympathetic coverage as he harangued Boris in a hospital [again Emma Barnett…she stopped her programme to play a clip of it as it happened] but failed to mention this outside the hospital…Boris being cheered…


  24. Philip_2 says:

    NHS staff in £214 million fraud
    Oh! how we laughed as Lord Haw Haw stated to the Public accounts committee in 2016 that its’ ‘rewards’ to top executives was justified, AND that the BBC was ‘LOVED’ by the public and was as highly VALUED as the NHS !!! Lord Haw Haw claimed it was perfectly ‘normal’ to avoid paying (NHI)* National Insurance by using Private Personal Contracts (at the same time as those same BBC staff were forced to repay back millions back to HMRC) – when it was abundantly clear they were still BBC ‘employees’) – avoiding tax. The BBC was found 100% liable but refuses to pay it all back. It fought all the way and still is, it has agreed to pay its staff the tax it would have paid as ‘employees’ quietly to HMRC. Others get away scott free.

    For Lord Haw HAw. Using the NHS is a useful metaphor for self esteem. Only the privileged class of the BBC think it is ‘VALUED’ by the UK public, in terms of ‘value’ meaning that the BBC is astonishing value – if that were true, which it obviously isn’t.

    The NHS does NOT claim to be as valued as the BBC, (only the BBC claim that it has ‘equal value’ to the NHS). New financial NHS revelations indicated that some parts of the NHS do resemble the running of the BBC in terms of perks and management FRAUD in key areas of accountability.

    Here is a good example:
    There was worrying news this week as The Daily Mail revealed that “crooked GPs and dentists” are defrauding the NHS out of £214 million a year. According to reporter Sophie Borland “they are claiming money for non-existent services and appointments – and submitting invoices for patients who have died.” Worse still, total fraud for the NHS is estimated at £1.3 billion a year which could have been used to hire 48,000 junior doctors.


  25. JimS says:

    A scary listen, Radio 4’s Last Word on the death of Sheikh Yusuf Motala, Born 25 November 1946; died 8 September 2019, aged 72. Imported into the UK in 1968.

    Apparently responsible for the ‘British’ Islam followed by 44%(?) of Muslims in the UK. He wanted women educated in Islam separately and dressed in ‘letter boxes’.

    Nice of you to let us know BBC, now that he is dead but his idealogy is firmly emedded.


  26. Doublethinker says:

    Thinking about the Globalist Remainer strategy over the past few years it isn’t the judges who are their key weapon, it’s the MSM who do all the heavy lifting. The judges are only there to provide a reserve if any issue or person breaks through the multi faceted MSM defence line . Think of Tommy Robinson drawing attention to the establishment connivance with Muslim rape gangs . The media were losing the battle against Tommy , the longer he protested about the monstrous crimes the establishment allowed the Muslim rapists to get away with, the more aware and concerned the public were becoming. The MSM couldn’t hold the line against this particular truth with such a powerful and fearless advocate. He had to be silenced and so the establishment used the judges to do it.
    The same tactics will be used against those who continue to lead the Brexit rebellion. If smears and lies by the media don’t silence them , the judges will be used to imprison them. We are close to living in a police state.


  27. Jeff says:

    I’m not usually around when the Beeb’s Crimewatch series is on, but I did have a quick gander this morning.
    One particular crime is worth mentioning, if only because it demonstrates how our state broadcaster will go to any lengths to manipulate events to suit their narrative.
    It’s a very sad story. A young Asian lad was stabbed to death in London. The poor boy was entirely innocent and was trying to get home when the gang involved caught him and he died yards from his front door. To make matters even more tragic his own father saw the blue flashing lights and dashed out and saw his son receiving medical attention.
    It seems to have been some sort of “turf war” and the policeman in charge of the case stated categorically that there were two gangs involved, one Somali/ African and the other Asian. Pretty clear, I’d have thought…
    However, when the BBC decided to show us a close up of a knife it was being held in a white hand.
    They always do this.
    At any other time, for types of food, braided hair or even (c)rap music, some PC pain in the arse would be accusing them of “cultural appropriation.”
    Where’s bleedin’ David Lammy when you want him?

    Not something I often ask…


  28. Alex Feltham says:

    Boris Johnson’s hero is Churchill.

    Boris’s goal is to be a modern Churchill.

    Boris is facing an open goal.

    If he doesn’t screw it up he can live in history down the ages as the prime minister who freed his country. All he has to do is leave the EU without a deal. This is because the only deal on offer makes Britain a powerless colony of the EU.



  29. Guest Who says:

    Sensing another raft of ‘the problem is old white men’ storiescoming down the pipe from the young girlies of colour at the BBC. And the women.


  30. vlad says:

    Not directly about the beeb, but this conversation with Douglas Murray and Julia Hartley-Brewer about his book The Madness of Crowds explores the dangerously Woke mindset that infects the Corporation.

    One comment reads: “You know it’s not the BBC when 2 people in a room have common sense.”

    People are catching on!


  31. pugnazious says:

    BBC news on Today, the BBC’s premier, flagship news programme…

    Thomas Cook collapses because of brexit…people refusing to book due to uncertainty.

    That’s a complete lie.

    The standard view is that it collapsed because it failed to keep up with modern times and didn’t embrace the internet. We are told that the competition is fierce and holiday makers have never had a better time to grab bargains….so where are all those people not booking due to cost and uncertainty? 150,000 travellers stranded by the collapse presumably just didn’t give a damn about the money and Brexit uncertainty and blew it all on Thomas Cook anyway. Seems people were booking holidays….this was down to bad management not Brexit.

    Why did BBC news only reference brexit as the cause of the collapse?


    • infoquest says:

      Jeremy Vine – caller says its because of Brexit and says that those who voted Remain should be saved first. Listening to JV I’d guess that he’s never in his life been on a package holiday.


      • davylars says:

        BBC 12 o’clock news. Re. Thos Cook collapse,
        As well as Brexit, the weather was also a factor..


        • Up2snuff says:

          davy, sure was esp. in 2018.

          Suppose we could blame the BBC for Thomas Cook’s failure. After all Harabin and McGrath promised that we would definitely get another scorching summer UK-wide again this year.


    • Loobyloo says:

      Contemptible lying bastards. From Sky News:

      ‘Sarah Coles, personal finance analyst, told Sky News that Thomas Cook’s business model had a “fundamental flaw” by borrowing money at this time of year to bulk buy hotel rooms and lease claims, and then making it back throughout the year.

      Ms Coles said that in contrast, TUI doesn’t book anything until it’s received money from the customer, by buying things like hotel rooms further downstream.

      She said they have broken into cruises too, which has helped. Thomas Cook was not able to invest because it was running with debts.’


  32. Up2snuff says:

    I note that on the on-line BBC R4 schedules that Loose Ends now gets a cut-down repeat from 11.30 am -12 noon, can’t say that I have noticed that before.

    But I also note that BBC have dropped the ( R ) repeat symbol from the schedules, for R4, at least – haven’t checked the other stations. It used to be simple to see what proportion of new programming versus repeats were available each day on Radio 4.

    The BBC wouldn’t be trying to hide something, would they?

    On the evidence of this, the BBC cannot be trusted.


  33. Guest Who says:


    Not enough popcorn.


  34. Guest Who says:



    • Backlash says:

      I am sick to death of this child’s face. Could posters here possibly stop posting tweets/photos of the silly little moo?
      My blood pressure is already sky-high!


      • G.W.F. says:


        Me too, but this one reveals where she came from



      • Guest Who says:

        If there is a ridiculous news item which has her image, you may just have to live with it.

        I have a mild sense now how IDF service personnel must feel when they realise the relentless inbound is a real threat to their families and try to stop those taking the shots who are hiding behind kids.

        Which is when the BBC really revs up Jez Bowen and squad, who were waiting on standby.

        This poor moppet is the most cynical media propaganda tool I have come across since the tragic Master Kurdi.


  35. G says:

    As the months and years wear by, the POTUS’s assertions and stand-offs with other Western countries over the Iranian Nuclear issue come to pass:
    “Where, you may ask, are the strong advocates of the nuclear deal after the new evidence revealed that Iran has long been violating the nuclear deal and pursuing its nuclear ambitions? They are silent.”
    Well, fancy that, who would have believed…………..
    Iran the taquiyya experts.


  36. taffman says:

    “Eurozone economy stalls as data trigger fears of recession”
    Has Al Beeb covered this ? Perhaps they will if their researchers visit this site.
    The Thomas Cook “affair” may have serious ‘knock on’ effects causing more problems for Europe.


  37. Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

    From the Radio Times for this week.

    Radio 4, Monday 23/9, 7:45 pm.

    “Just a Woman”

    1/5 Drama by Mark Davies Markham, about Amy, a typical, modern 18-year-old who happens to be transgender. Amy is packing for a trip to Amsterdam with new best friend Rachel. Her family is trying very hard to stay calm, but not succeeding.

    The spiel about Thursday’s episode (4/5) says it’s a “sequel to ‘Just a Girl’ continuing the story of transgender teenager Amy, who is now 18 and ready to fly the nest and assert her independence. Amy and Sam’s romance is going well. But …”


  38. dafydd says:

    If this has been at the UKIP, Brexit or Conservative Party conference this would be all over every news channel..

    As someone who spent years in the Army and 2 years of that time spent pounding the streets of Northern Ireland in the late 70’s i find this deeply offensive, how must the families of those who lost loved ones or who had loved injured feel, heartbreaking

    This is a disgusting new low by Corbyn and his Marxist mates.

    Just fucking staggering..I’m lost for words..!!



  39. Thoughtful says:

    Another paedophile rape gang, but not the usual suspects:


    Sebastian Baltatu, 18, and Ilie Daniel Baltatu, 22; and cousins Parizian Calin, 20, and Adrian Calin, 20, have now been locked up for more than 25 years.

    Pretty weak sentencing with effectively just 3 years each. An automatic deportation should be issued, no mention of it though.


  40. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 – Montacutie Missing

    Jonny Dysjointed Dymond was in charge. It truly is chronic that the R4 Controller does not realise how bad he is as a presenter. His halting delivery makes listening a very unpleasant experience.

    I resisted the desire to switch off as I was getting a subtle BBC unintended slant on both Thomas Cook and the Labour Party Conference. The BBC are insistent that Brexit is the cause of Thomas Cook’s woes & failure but wiser heads outside the BBC among the general public know that the TC has been in trouble for some time, long before the EU Referendum, as Dymond confirmed. Ooops! Then the BBC had to find another ‘victim’ (a TC staff member) and a Labour spokesman (Andy Burnham, no less, skiving off Conference) but Dymond does not ask how being in the EU has protected Thomas Cook jobs.

    I wonder why?

    The item on the Labour Conference confirmed what we suspected: the Labour movement is going through the motions and there will be either be a compromise or a revolution. Poor old Jezza is Leader in name only, John McDonnell is de facto leader and in charge.

    Part-time is brought on and appears to hint, in her enthusiasm, that she might be a Labour voter, if not member. Not an outright naughty Naughtie-type on-air-slip but just a subtle hint out of the corner of that twisted mouth.


  41. Burgsey says:

    Hi all, just thought I would go for a prediction here in respect of the Supreme Court judgement on Boris’s prorogation.

    It wont happen today.

    I am getting the strong vibe that the judges are all remain leaning and will find against Boris (rather than looking at the facts).

    However to cause as little disruption to the Labour Conference as possible (although they are doing much of that themselves), but maximum damage to the Torys, it will be delayed.

    Indeed today, in a day where Thomas Cook news dominates, it wouldn’t be a good idea, would it!

    I would suggest tomorrow sometime, possibly around 1pm or 6pm so the BBC can carry it live!


    • theisland says:

      Joshua Rozenberg says he understands judgement will be given at ‏1030 tomorrow Tuesday.


    • G.W.F. says:


      Looks like it will be tomorrow. However they decide, it is clear that the separation of powers is over – if we ever had it. Once they decided to examine the case, the judiciary had crossed the line. From now on we can expect the courts to be invoked on a wide range of political matters.

      Of course, the prosecution of Tommy Robinson was a clear sign that the elite had abandoned any pretence of a separation between politics and the court.


  42. Cassandra says:

    My DAB radio is very powerful. I inadvertently tuned on to Radio 4. It should have been the drama slot at 2.15pm but instead I appear to have tuned into Radio Lesotho.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Listen Ma Cassandra, I just love Ma Ramotswe and the No. 1 Ladies Detective Agency. Botswana is so refreshing and I can forget all my troubles – and the new tyres I should be buying for my car – for forty-five minutes.

      Unfortunately Ma, if you listen right to the final end today you are subjected to some of the BBC white man’s Left Liberal propaganda but that was a small price to pay for the lilting tones and the twists and turns of everyday Botswana life to be enjoyed from the rest of the wireless programme.

      Now Ma, I must be off. Maybe I should go and see Mr J.L.B. Matekoni about tyres for my car?


  43. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Remember a few months ago when the police arrested a grooming gang in Newcastle. The picture with I think 15 enrichers and one woman we saw in the papers.

    This morning I’m hearing they have all been acquitted, set free because somebody wrote the police notes in a wrong book.

    A girl was on the radio who was 12 years old when she was getting a right good enriching, being gangbanged, abused and assaulted by multiple you know who’s and she was distraught saying she had lost all faith in the police.

    They would pick us up from school, get us drunk, hit us and then would rape them.

    They are all free, off on a technicality.
    The police will not comment and simply say they are having an inquiry.

    Compare that with the ‘law’ and the way it treated Tommy.


  44. pugnazious says:

    The beauty Jon Sopel and Co must be apoplectic….Trump allying with the hated Hindu nationalist regime in India and saying he will stand up to Islamic radicalism…two things the BBC has decreed are big no-nos…


    Clip from 17 mins…

    Amazingly Trump’s speech hasn’t even been noticed by Sopel…had to check he’s still the BBC’s North America editor, yep he is…but more concerned with the Labour Conference, and plugging his own book[A year at the Circus…ha ha], than news in America.


    • vlad says:

      “Radical Islamic Terrorism”?

      But I don’t understand – there’s no such thing, surely. The muslim O’Barmy told me islam had nothing to do with terror and terror had nothing to do with islam.

      Surely he wasn’t lying?


  45. taffman says:

    Listening to all the radio traffic today, including Al Beeb.
    They are in a panic, they are trying every which way but loose, to try to talk the nation out of Brexit .
    They are all scared stiff of a general election. I wonder why ?
    We should have left in 2016 – the economy would be booming now.
    It is amazing how well our economy is doing after three years of political parties talking this nation down and all the uncertainty it has created.
    Get The Brexit Party in power so that we can be great again.


    • Luckyharry69 says:

      At the moment its The Brexit Party for me too.
      I cannot beleive what I am watching at the Labour Party conference.I thought the hard left had disappeared in the last few decades but they seem to be back with a vengeance quoting Malcolm X and others.
      “Power to the people”
      “United we stand…bla bla…”
      Its just unbeleivable…………


      • rthornton says:

        “I thought the hard left had disappeared in the last few decades”

        But that’s the problem – too many people with no memory whatsoever of crackpot Labour several decades ago.

        It’s just a big adventure to them.

        I fear the cycle will keep on repeating. Labour government creates massive debt, Tories (for all their faults) voted in to try to repair the damage. A few decades pass and naive bleeding hearts forget the worst, then the whole cycle repeats itself.


        • pugnazious says:

          Don’t expect any help from the BBC to raise the alarm, about groups like Generation Identity yep, the BBC will denounce them endlessly, but the Communists? They just love that commie idiot Ash Sarkar. Witness how the far-left use climate change to recruit young people, children, to their causes. BBC ain’t concerned one bit.

          The BBC is a globalist, ‘internationalist’ supporting organisation that campaigns against nation states and borders…it is in essence ‘communist’ itself despite the huge wages it pays to itself.

          Witness this morning when Today sneered that certain countries, the US and Brazil, were not signing up to international climate controls…the problem was far-right ‘nationalism’ of Trump and Bolsonaro…..oh..hang on….Japan, Australia, Saudi Arabia, South Africa and many more ‘fascist states’ also aren’t attending the UN climate Action Summit.

          Apparently, as the BBC always tells us India and China are working miracles and are climate heroes….except of course that’s just not true….their goals are merely to reduce the growth of emissions not to actually cut emissions in total…

          ‘”China and India are on track to meet their goals,” he noted, but the problem is the goals are too low. In China’s case, Beijing committed in 2015 to reduce the rate of growth of emissions, otherwise known as lowering their carbon intensity. But to truly abate global warming, they need to make actual cuts.’

          The only reason they are attending the UN jamboree is to put the squeeze on the West for money….

          ‘China and India demand cash for climate action on eve of UN summit ‘
          ‘World’s largest and fourth largest emitters said the onus remained on the countries historically responsible for climate change to move money.
          China and India demanded rich countries provide financial support for them to increase their climate plans, as leaders prepared to meet at a UN summit in New York. ‘

          And you know what they’ll probably get it…backed by the likes of the BBC…and all the rest of the leftie media that is involved in a vast conspiracy to brainwash us all…as revealed by the Guardian…

          ‘Covering Climate Now: how more than 250 newsrooms are joining forces this week to spotlight the climate crisis

          Hundreds of newsrooms around the world are banding together this week to commit their pages and air time to what may be the most consequential story of our time.

          As world leaders descend on New York for the UN Climate Action Summit on 23 September – and millions of activists prepare for a global climate strike on 20 September – the media partnership Covering Climate Now is launching its first large-scale collaboration to increase climate coverage in the global media and focus public attention on this emergency.

          The Guardian is the lead partner in Covering Climate Now, which was founded earlier this year by the Columbia Journalism Review and the Nation. ‘

          Just remember the UN wants to make climate change a reason for migration…you can claim asylum if you claim your environment is changing adversely…and in 2015….nearly 30 million people were displaced for one reason or another….20 million due to natural ‘disasters’…



    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      It’s not just the lack of £ that worries the EU, it’s Great Britain becoming a Tiger Economy right on their doorstep.


  46. pugnazious says:

    Why is this OK?….


    ‘Plans for a Muslim LGBT festival are welcomed by 28-year-old film director Almass Badat, who is a member of the Muslim LGBTI+ group Hidayah.

    “When I was growing up, I remember really looking hard for just someone that looked like me and that was also queer,” Almass tells Newsbeat.

    “It’s really nice when you walk into a space and you can see someone that maybe looks like you, or has the same values – it doesn’t always have to be visible.

    “I’ll go to Pride and also go to Black Pride and I’ll probably also go to Muslim Pride. ‘

    If you were white and said you just want to be with people that look like you and have the same values as you the BBC would hang you out to dry. Says a lot about the much vaunted multiculturalism doesn’t it? Just skin deep….it’s lipservice, its merely tolerance….they really don’t want to be around white people in a white culture. Multiculturalism and diversity will destroy any country that embraces it in the zealous, determinedly intolerant and unthinking way the BBC and its fellow travellers do….the starting point for their policy being the dogma that all white people are evil, their history is evil and the future would be better without them.

    In a similar vein what the heck is this? Complete nonsense….because of course black people are known to hate running and sport aren’t they…they just have no role models…..or is it that she just doesn’t like being with whites…If a white woman said she didn’t want to be in a group of mainly blacks because they were black?…


    ‘How one runner started a group for women of colour

    When Matilda Egere-Cooper started running, she didn’t see many women who looked like her at races and events, so she decided to do something about it. ‘

    Note…born in the US, lives in UK but ‘home’ is Nigeria….so very Trump-like huh? lol


  47. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Have you heard that Greta Thunfisch giving a speech.
    She sounds a proper little madam.


    • Old Goat says:


      Even more bonkers are those idiots applauding her. She needs a darn good spanking, and being sent to bed with no tea. And so do they…


      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        How dare you!


        Just read this back and it could be taken the wrong way.
        OG, It’s not aimed at you.
        It’s one of the lines in her speech.


  48. theisland says:

    “You have stolen my dreams and my childhood”
    Is she talking about rape jihad paedo gangs?


    • vlad says:

      Somehow I doubt it.


      • Swelter says:

        My god haven’t seen such over the top histrionics since Peter oTooles Macbeth. That is one seriously primed and groomed child. There should be an inquiry into who has done this to this latter day Mary Barton. Its appalling crude propaganda.


    • vlad says:

      She could of course have said: you stale pale males have given my generation the most wealthy, caring, liberal, safe, free, egalitarian, healthy, peaceful, educated, and potential-filled existence that any generation has enjoyed anywhere in the universe since it came into existence some 14 billion years ago. Nowhere more so than in Sweden (at least until recent years when the far-liberals like myself started buggering it all up).
      For that I am immensely and undyingly grateful, and shall try not to destroy all you’ve given us through insane economic, immigration and woke social justice policies.


    • SPC says:

      She’s just a child – grow up – She has – far too soon!


    • vlad says:

      But the spastic midget got one thing right: “I shouldn’t be here, I should be at school.”

      You said it sweetie.


    • smoogie7 says:

      She might make a good actress one day. I can see her in a Hollywood blockbuster where she takes on all the evils of all mankind!


  49. vlad says:

    BBC breaking news: Jon Sopel reports that yet again President Trump addresses an empty stadium.