Midweek Thread 11 September 2019

Another anniversary of that World Changing day.RIP
Meanwhile it’s 33 days until Parliament returns and 51 days until the UK leaves the EU .

Will the biased Far Left BBC continue to fight brexit ? will it go into collective mourning if it looks like we are really going ? Will more so called journalists lose the plot ?

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555 Responses to Midweek Thread 11 September 2019

  1. Loobyloo says:

    https://news.sky.com/story/rastamouse-creator-michael-de-souza-sentenced-for-8-700-benefit-fraud-11806422

    Cbeebies show…can’t see it covered on Al Beeb site…feel the enrichment. Read the article..laughable, and he got 160 hours community service.

    PS First!

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    • Annunaki says:

      Yes, I would assume his income is a little irregular if he believes the word “the” is pronounced “da”, and we can only regret he was allowed to broadcast this misconception to our younger members of society, many of whom use this patois yet complain about a lack of opportunity, wonder why ?

      Can you imagine, for example, calling a technical helpline and being confronted with this gibberish ?

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      • The General says:

        Yes, it regularly happens when I call for example Virgin Media, British Gas and some British Banks. Impossible to understand and have no idea how to pronounce my (British) name.

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  2. smoogie7 says:

    Well it looks like the BBC’s smear campaign against Boris has worked. Labour are picking up in the polls due to Corbyn being portrayed as a hero. Labour will win the next GE. Tory vote split and a second referendum and more Brexit delays will lead to withdrawal of of article 50.

    This is the end of Brexit. The BBC will get what they want. Labour will be in power with the Lib Dem’s. Expect. Soft socialism at the very least. Our country is finished.

    Corbyn and the remainers scam to trap the PM has worked and there is nothing we can do about it. Will Johnson accept a Brino? Does he even have a choice? Doesn’t matter anyway he has no choice. Corbyn is the one with power and is the chosen one. The BBC have officially endorsed Labour as the party of Britain or what is left of it.

    A very sad time for this country but we just don’t have the numbers on our side. I think that Johnson has our best interests at heart but he was stabbed in the back from day one.

    We have lost. These are very sad times but I guess I will have to accept the result. Brexit was never meant to happen. Better accept it and move on rather than be like those remainers have been the past two years.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Smoog
      I understand your pessimism- I am by nature a pessimist so no pep talk from me . I believed the original referendum votes would be fixed and was proved wrong .

      Brexit is obviously in peril as all the opposition parties have lined up using the fatal Fixed Term Parliament Act as a weapon.
      The only thing on our side is the clock ticking down .

      I’m not sure how the council of ministers will play out on 17? October . Assuming Boris is still PM it will either be –

      No deal brexit on 31st October
      Repeal of A50 by the traitors the day after by Act using Bercow
      Request for extension again
      Some sort of deal which really means we stay in – paying without a say .

      The outcome of an extension request will only be granted if the EU benefits . If they are getting Fedup with the UK then they might just say ‘goodbye ‘ they know there is no prospect of an election for 2 years or more . Even the most thick EU Crat must know there is a disconnect between parliament and voters and there will be a reckoning . – see Euro Elections .

      Maybe Brexit will take longer – a withdrawal of A50 and then a further attempt when the traitors are thrown out of parliament .
      Not a happy story .

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      • smoogie7 says:

        I do not wish to put people on a downer but there is no point in pretending that we are the winners all the time. We are being set up to lose. There is still support for Brexit but no in Parliament. It does not matter who is in Downing Street at the moment as they will still not have the numbers.

        It was a cruel stunt by Labour and the Lib Dem’s but they have the media on their side. The BBC have got what they want. Brexit support week and remain strong.

        This time next year we might still be in the EU and with Corbyn as PM. I would not be just disappointed but actually terrified. Who knows what more stunts he will pull?

        Of course it is not over yet. We do have time and a lot can happen. At the very least Parliament is prorogued. The worst has happened so far. Let’s hope for a change in direction

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      • smoogie7 says:

        I do not wish to put people on a downer but there is no point in pretending that we are the winners all the time. We are being set up to lose. There is still support for Brexit but no in Parliament. It does not matter who is in Downing Street at the moment as they will still not have the numbers.

        It was a cruel stunt by Labour and the Lib Dem’s but they have the media on their side. The BBC have got what they want. Brexit support week and remain strong.

        This time next year we might still be in the EU and with Corbyn as PM. I would not be just disappointed but actually terrified. Who knows what more stunts he will pull?

        Of course it is not over yet. We do have time and a lot can happen. At the very least Parliament is prorogued. The worst has happened so far. Let’s hope for a change in direction

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      • Doublethinker says:

        My view is that a Remainer alliance know that they will lose a GE because of FPTP. They also know that in second referendum they have a better chance of winning. So they will want to seize power , delay Brexit , hold another referendum, make sure that they win it by employing any method necessary and then dump Brexit for good and try to cement our place in the EU. The alliance will then break up and a GE will be held. The questions that occur to me are :
        a) Can this train of events be prevented
        b) Is it possible that the long delayed GE could still yield a Pro Brexit government in a year or so
        c) will those who voted for Brexit in 2016 allow democracy to be trampled in the mud
        d) what will be the long term impact on our democracy if the referendum is betrayed

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  3. Annunaki says:

    Gang of nine men and a woman are accused of grooming vulnerable girls as young as 12 with drugs and alcohol before treating them as ‘objects to be used and abused’

    Group are in court for range of child sex offences after four girls ‘were groomed’
    Court hears girls were let down by those in authority and became gang’s prey

    ASIAN, apparently in the tenth paragraph….hmmmm Chinese maybe ? Sikh, Hindu ? Japanese ? Philipino ? Bhuddist ?

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7448445/Huddersfield-sex-gang-groomed-vulnerable-girls-young-12.html

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Annu
      If you collect mugshots there are 6 feral members of a London gang which were convicted of murder yesterday . Very – diverse .
      Londonistan body count upto 105 now after yesterday’s after school stabbing activities . Maybe school uniforms should have Kevlar linings …

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  4. Guest Who says:

    BBC moaning emole:

    ***
    Brexit: Labour’s Watson demands pre-election referendum

    Labour deputy leader Tom Watson is insisting his party must make holding a referendum on Brexit its priority. In a speech, he will say that a general election might not break the current deadlock and that Labour must be “crystal clear” in campaigning for the UK to remain in the EU.

    This puts him at odds with leader Jeremy Corbyn, who wants the party to offer voters both Leave and Remain options. Labour says it wants an election after 31 October, when a no-deal Brexit on that date has been ruled out.

    The BBC asks what people around the UK think about Brexit.

    With Parliament not sitting again until 14 October and the conference season about to begin, we also look at where the main parties stand.

    ***
    What Watson ‘demands’ is of little interest to me.

    What is is how his stock lies after the Carl Beech affair. Other than with the bbc, he is a shot bolt.

    But one is sure the ‘people’ the bbc find to opine will trot out what the bbc likes.

    They still control the edit.

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    • Banania says:

      The Remainers’ main argument is that although we voted to Leave it was not decided how. This apparently justifies offering a new choice to people between soft Brexit and no Brexit at all. Where is the sense in that?

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      • Scroblene says:

        “Where is the sense in that?”

        All we need to do is listen to the bbbc, and they’ll instruct us, Banania.

        They’ll wheel on the usual dross like Bliar, Clarke, Vicky Any-Price, etc, and then sit back while these vile creatures tell us how we should live. No way, Hose!

        Mind you, looking at the online rags, I’m pretty sure now, that remoaners are getting more and more confused, as No 10 has something in store for them, and they don’t know what it is!

        They don’t call me Detective Scrobs for nothing!

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  5. Celtic_Mist says:

    The BBC’s favourite trick of using a carefully selected example that will not be representative. It flies in the face of using a proper statistical approach – not as if they couldn’t afford to –

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    • Guest Who says:

      Clearly the memo went out. Local news:

      ***
      In the last year there have been more than 200 incidents of hate crimes towards gay and lesbian people reported to West Mercia Police but the number of prosecutions has fallen dramatically.

      If you are a member of the LGBT community have you ever been a victim?

      ***

      Is it possible the combination of lax definition and idiot police commitments have led to ‘reports’ leading to attempted prosecutions failing because they are without merit.

      When Owen Jones scratching his tummy in the world’s most unsuccessful gang hit leads bbc headlines for a week, this is a possibility.

      What became of that btw?

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  6. Annunaki says:

    Our ridiculous equality and racism laws and the professional regular racism whingers, the Lammys and Abbotts of this world, are directly contributing to the thousands of child rape victims and murder victims through trangressors allowed to operate with apparent impunity

    The slightly offended are offered more protection than the raped and murdered.

    You cannot solve a problem without properly defining it, any fule kno that

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  7. Guest Who says:

    I wonder if the ever alert bbc will be pulling a ‘while we have got you here’ over this?

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      She seems to have deleted the original tweet. Pity people took a screenshot first.
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      Parliament vs The People indeed.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        If you notice – comrades Corbyn and McDonnell surround themselves with a variety of ‘useful idiots ‘ – apart from Starmer – who being a lawyer/shark could never have the ‘chummy’ skills needed to be upfront .
        I think Dawn is quite funny – her little tirade during the Bercow love in even had other labour front benchers doing that What The ? Thing .not that bright – like all of them …- and I’m not being anti labour – it’s just true .

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      • Guest Who says:

        Make a good election poster.

        Not for Labour or the bbc to highlight, obvs.

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          The Conservatives have already come up with this. Expect more of the same.

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      • Terminal Moraine says:

        – “This is our parliament”
        – She endorses #ParliamentVsThePeople
        – Ergo she’s against the people

        And how does that sit with #ForTheManyNotTheFew?

        Logic lessons for Dawn please

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  8. Guest Who says:

    ‘We’?

    BBC News

    The world urgently needs to be made more “climate change resilient”, according to The Global Commission on Adaptation.

    So what five things do we need to act on to climate-proof the world?🌏

    bbc.in/2UMcnBR

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  9. Cassandra says:

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7450291/Fire-chiefs-ban-Fireman-Sam-mascot-not-inclusive-enough.html

    Fireman Sam has been sacked and the BBC and LBC are both running this story. The facts are now beginning to emerge and the truth about Sam’s attitude to the BBC’s Diversity propaganda are beginning to emerge. This will wipe the Geoffrey Boycott story from all the front pages…

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    • The General says:

      Quite right too. If my house was burning down and a fire engine arrived full of white faces, I would quite rightly tell them to go away and instruct them to send a crew which accurately represented the ethnic diversity of this country.

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      • Scroblene says:

        Not much chance of that, The G.

        From some gummint website…

        “in 2018, 95.9% of firefighters in England for whom ethnicity was known were White, and 4.1% were from the Asian, Black, Mixed and Other (including Chinese) ethnic groups combined”!

        For God’s sake don’t tell your insurance company though!

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  10. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1

    BBC going big on relaxation of foreign students’ post-graduation residency rules. Thinking (it is good) but not thinking. No questions asked.

    According to the BBC, we have a housing crisis. We have a NHS & GP provision crisis, the BBC regularly tell us. We have an overburdened road, rail & air transport crisis. We have, according to some – young people, especially as well as the BBC – a Climate Crisis and travel and housing and light & heating and road transport of goods all contribute to it.

    No questions asked about the economics of such a move by the BBC. No questions about the practicalities from the BBC. No BBC questions about the infrastructure needed for an extra rolling population of around a quarter of a million. And most of all, no questions about international travel and the so-called ‘Climate Emergency from the BBC.

    I wonder why?

    On the evidence of this, the BBC cannot be trusted as a news organisation.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      Still listening to it eh?
      I be been out of the country for a while having my mind narrowed but back soon . I might start listening to it now that the antics in the commons have stopped for the time being . I’m sure the party conferences will be suitably crazy.

      As for the invasion of UK by illegals – they must be getting the message that all they have to do is get into the English Channel and they’ll get a free trip . Not good , I think a lot of people have a solution but feel unable to say it .

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, yes, patchy today. I find myself becoming more determined to leave the EU and less inclined to listen to the BBC ….
        …. the more I listen to the BBC.

        Fed, I am looking forward to the Party Conferences – and the BBC coverage thereof – with an air of gloom and foreboding. I suspect the OFF switch may be increasingly used.

        I usually look at the BBC w/s every day unless I give myself and the PC a Sabbath rest. This a.m., I found myself thinking why do I do this? Risking RSI scrolling through some pages for the same old same-oh.

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      • Denton says:

        I can not stand BBC radio any more.

        If you have a new-fangled DAB radio , try LBC or talkradio.
        LBC – https://www.lbc.co.uk/ . talkradio – https://talkradio.co.uk/

        Presenters are allowed to display their own opinions and political views. NIgel Farage has a program on LBC (6pm to 7pm Mon – Thur and Sunday 10am till 12). Once hooked you will not go back to the depressing, dull and very annoying BBC.

        Both these stations have rapidly growing audiences much to the consternation of the dying BBC.

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        • Luckyharry69 says:

          @Denton….
          Im afraid I disagree.Most of LBC’s output is almost identical to the BBC/Sky…you only have to listen to the ADVERTS to see where the influence is coming from….LBC are a remain broadcaster in spite of Farage and Ian Dale……

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        • Fred Stubber says:

          LBC is on Freeview (your telly) channel 732. Also on line. Most of my radio listening is on Bluetooth headphones fed from my phone, which has the LBC app.

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  11. MarkyMark says:

    RIGHT LADS! BEFORE YOU RUN INTO A SHOWER OF BULLETS REMEMBER WHY YOU ARE DOING THIS …..

    cc2fed47d382b7b940665be3651bd6b3de71c6758f4fd36554837cb23b8f31b9.jpg

    FOR ISLAM, FOR GENDER STUDIES, FOR TOLERANCE OF THE INTOLERANT, TO JOIN A CLUB AND BE UNABLE TO LEAVE, FOR MEN TO WALK INTO A LADIES TOILET DRESSED AS WOMEN! FOR PEACE! FOR PROGRESS! FOR 86 IRANIANS TO APPEAR ON OUR SHORE ESCAPING EU27!
    CHARGE ……

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  12. MarkyMark says:

    Theresa May missed 9/11 last time …
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    • Cassandra says:

      I will never forget Question Time from that week in September, 2001…

      https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/1340578/BBC-says-sorry-to-tearful-US-envoy.html

      “THE BBC apologised yesterday for any offence caused by a special edition of Question Time on the terrorist assault on America that left the former United States ambassador to Britain in tears.
      Hundreds of viewers telephoned to complain that anti-American views expressed by the audience did not represent British public opinion. They also accused the BBC of displaying insensitivity by airing the programme so soon after the disaster.
      At one point, Philip Lader, the former American ambassador, who was on the panel, was slow hand clapped by a section of the audience.
      He said with tears in his eyes: “I have to share with you that I find it hurtful that you can suggest that a majority of the world despises the US.”

      I’ve manage to get the YouTube video, it’s over 30 minutes long but Yasmin AliBhai-Brown is there demonstrating through her comments what a truly odious and toxic woman she is.
      It’s just turned 9.00am and I feel so angry after looking for a few minutes of this QT video.

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      • Mrs Kitty says:

        Found it difficult and nauseous to watch first time around, every time I try now I start to cry. For me 2001 was the millennium bug when everything started going downhill at Mach 18.

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  13. Jeff says:

    I don’t usually watch Newsnight, but I did get in just as the dregs were being played out. And what did I see…
    The Arch Bishop of Canterbury (Justin Welby) prostrating himself in front of a memorial to (yet another) blood soaked British atrocity, somewhere in India.
    He was apologising, again, on our behalf for events that occurred a century ago and lecturing us about how appalling our history was.
    They all do it. Livingstone, Cameron, May and now Welby.
    They travel half way round the world to humiliate our country abroad, while virtue signalling to those at home.
    I actually think this constant condemnation of our past is both damaging and degrading. I’m not defending the massacre, but I am condemning the endless self flagellation. It’s important that we know these events happened, but we seem to be fixated on them. It’s unhealthy.
    Welby has lots of form on these PC issues, either blathering about carbon footprints, waffling about slavery or going on about the evils of empire. The Guardian and The BBC can’t get enough of him.
    When he is in Blighty he’s forever warning us about the perils of a no deal Brexit. Crying out loud man, stick a sock in it!
    I find that I’m reminded of Henry the second’s famous aside…
    “Shall no one rid me of this turbulent priest?”

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I’d like to hear from Mr Welby how many souls he’s personally brought to salvation through Jesus Christ. After all that’s his job and the only reason the job exists.

      I suspect the answer is none.

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  14. G says:

    Did I hear Toady earlier, correctly? A mere few moments exposure. That’s the way it has become. Yesterday, alone, about 85 invaders entered the UK having come across the channel in small boats. Have the Home Office announced they would be preparing an, ‘enhanced plan’ to deal with this escalating problem?
    Here, Home Office, can I help by suggesting something rather simple that fits in rather well with the Governments migration policy?
    ‘Send more taxis to mid channel to help fulfil the invaders journey’. What about chartering cross-channel ferries?
    Simples.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      G -We hear about how many arrive every day, but we never hear what happens to them?
      What bets on whether we will hear details of this ‘enhanced plan’?
      I’m not holding my breath.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Fake:

        They all claim political asylum. That means they will be here for years. Even if they lose their claim, they will appeal it again and again. By the time they come to be deported, they will have wives and children, and their right to a family life means they will have to stay.

        Once their feet touch British soil the chance of them ever having to leave is very, very low, and they know it. That’s why they do it.

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      • Scroblene says:

        “G -We hear about how many arrive every day, but we never hear what happens to them?”

        Don’t worry, Fakes, we’ll look after them.

        Here in Kent, with Rye and Winchelsea Beach close by, we’ll take them all in, plunder our poll taxes, feed them, house them, school them in their own language, rid them of disease, pay for them to squirt babies everywhere, and generally use our money well.

        We can’t afford a holiday, but a trip across the Channel would be nice one day.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Shoot a few of them out of the water and the rest will think twice about invading us.

      And jail all the lefties who would inevitably start whining about it.

      There, I’ve said it.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        I was thinking in more on the lines of a re-enactment of Moby Dick, y’know where everyone is armed with harpoons.

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      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        In the end game even progressive idiots will realise that will be the only recourse left to them. They’ll still probably blame defunct old white gammons for forcing them into it though.

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  15. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Fedup2

    Do you have an estimate for the number of people who come onto this website to contribute and to read the comments?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      EG
      A good question which at the moment I can’t answer. The ‘ hits’ are enormous and I suspect that a lot more read than write .

      When I’m next waiting for BA find a pilot and plane ( Thursday ) -I might do a tot up and let you know.
      I suspect though -that clever types like ‘ stew’ can say more …..

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  16. Dover Sentry says:

    Sky News:

    “”Tom Watson and shadow Brexit secretary Sir Keir Starmer will step up demands for a fresh public vote on Brexit.””

    https://news.sky.com/story/labour-deputy-sets-up-corbyn-row-with-call-for-referendum-before-election-11806514

    Another referendum proposed by Labour.

    Next time, Remain win 52 to 48.

    For the next three years, Boris negotiates in secret with the EU.

    Returns with a Remain Agreement (RA).

    Parliament rejects the RA as it effectively means that we Leave.

    Remain PM appointed. Parliament Prorogued.

    New Leave speaker allows Bill to prevent us remaining.

    Groundhog day….

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  17. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – an alternative (not much!) to Sky News.

    An air of BBC confidence surrounds Tom Watson’s call for Labour to campaign entirely for the UK to remain in the EU. Except Labour do not want a General Election (and voted against the opportunity last week and this) because they know Brexit will be the differentiating identity of Labour, the SNP, the LibDems and the Green MP on one side and the Conservatives, The Brexit Party and UKIP on the other and as pro-EU they might lose.

    Heavily.

    Much as Jeremy Corbyn would like Brexit to go away so that he could be Prime Minister, it is an issue that will boil on and on and the pan will never become empty now, it will never boil dry.

    It is a matter to wonder about: would the MPs in Parliament have refused another Referendum on the EU had Boris Johnson offered it on Monday? I suspect they would. Again, because they might lose.

    No questions asked – at least during my intermittent listening to the Toady programme this am – about this.

    I wonder why?

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  18. Nibor says:

    Here’s a deal .
    We leave the EU on October 31 but the EU allow us to reapply with new membership fee of £39 billion and joining the EUro and all the other bits .
    But we leave first . Then have a referendum

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  19. tarien says:

    Suggest we know why so many politicans in the 2016 referendum voted to Remain inside the EU, but one has to ask why? What is the EU actually today? There have been utopian and partly totalitarian undecurrents to the EU for years. Those undercurrents have reached the surface. The EU as we have seen increasingly resembles a pan-European tyranny. Massive pressure from illegal immigration in the Mediterranean regions seemingly goes unabated. Hundreds of thousands migrants have crossed illegally in boats to come to Europe-comming from all over the Islamic world-the EU through its actions has encouraged this immigration. Frankly we have to accept that the EU promotes crime and instability which over time has weakened Europe’s cultural and physical defences. The European Union is not about cooperation for protecting the best interests of Europeans; it is about turning the entire continent into a multicultural theme park while the natives get culturally deconstructed and demographically crushed. It now shows the EU as a LARGE SCALE social experiment conducted by hundreds of millions of people. It is not about economics of scale but about stupidity of scale. It corrupts virtually everybody that comes close to it. It cannot be reformed, it can only be dismantled. Knowing that the EU has long constituted a threat to the freedom and prosperity of Europeans, these policies now contitute a direct threat to our lives. So who in their right mind would vote to stay in ? Maybe the BBC would like to move to Brussels.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      tarien, interesting opening two questions.

      Also interesting that the BBC on the w/s today are trying to convince us that the EU is just, merely, another Hanseatic League. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/extra/A2MFANtn3Z/hanseatic_league

      They overlook the fact the EU is now EUNation. Both outgoing Presidents said as much during the opening of the new EU Parliament.

      Meanwhile …

      ….. The Presidents are dead. Long live the new Presidents!
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-49646809

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      • tarien says:

        Quite obvious from what I have heard this new woman Von Der Leyen say concerning the UK and Brexit deals, there will be no special favours given by the her of the EU to allow the UK to slip back into the EU-Likely any Labour representative will also be given a short sharp response. In 2016 a referendum was held and a majority vote was given by the voting public to leave-nothing more but to leave-the disgraceful proceedings since 2016 by this nations MP’s has been nothing short of treachery. They should hang their heads in shame, and as for one Leader of the Liberals to have the termerity and impudence to state that they would STOP Bexit. If I were a member of the Liberals I would be down on that leader like a ton of bricks.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Ah but the Globalist elite are all in favour of supranational organisation and dream of a technocratic unelected world government. They are neither democrats or patriots, infact they despise their own nations. They see the EU as a building block of the future they are committed to. They have been surreptitiously pursuing this dream for decades knowing that until they had indoctrinated cadres of young folks to think correctly they could not openly speak of their future goals. They have busily marched through the institutions and gained control of the MSM, judiciary, education , civil service etc. Brexit has forced them out into the open and their strength is being tested . If they win their position becomes near impregnable , if they lose and we Brexit they will rely on their likeminded colleagues in the EU and elsewhere to force us back in by trying wreck our economy . Democracy and our national indenting is hanging by a thread ..

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  20. MarkyMark says:

    LEFT: You can be what you want!
    GIRL: I want to wear a skirt!
    LEFT: You can’t you must be gender neutral!

    LEFT: You can be what you want!
    MAN: I want to be a Conservative!
    LEFT: You can’t because they are Nasty!

    LEFT: You can be what you want!
    …..

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  21. MarkyMark says:

    Week#1: Men can wear dresses and go into ladies’ toilets.

    Week#2: Girls cannot wear skirts and must wear gender neutral trousers as worn by boys.

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  22. MarkyMark says:

    Week#1: Men can wear dresses and go into ladies’ toilets.

    Week#2: Girls cannot wear skirts and must wear gender neutral trousers as worn by boys.

    Because black is blue. Please keep up ….

    O’Brien silenced him by a movement of his hand. ‘We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation — anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature.‘

    http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/19.html

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  23. G.W.F. says:

    Skotch Supreme Court backs the elites and rules that Prorogation was wrong.
    The remainer elite are winning. Betcha the UK Supreme Court will follow the Skotch

    If we want to leave the EU it is not going to be via the ballot, Parliament or a Gen Election.
    We have to cooperate with Europeans who want out.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-49661855

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    • Fedup2 says:

      GW
      It was pretty inevitable that , with huge Soros resources, remainers would find some friendly judges willing to put the courts above parliament .

      In the current climate it’s probable that the uk Supreme Court May divide in favour of remain .

      How soon is that to be heard ?

      Maybe next week – which is important because we’d have an even bigger constitutional crisis where a court is ordering a government to go back into parliament . But I think that’s a bit too much

      Bercow must be getting ready to bring his 500 friends back for another session of mutual admiration . Despair is a fair emotion .

         21 likes

      • Beltane says:

        Even worse, the triumphalism of dear Gina – whose court action will no doubt be seen in a far more sympathetic light, although as we know, she is only interested in a democratic outcome – has yet to rub salt in our wounds.

           17 likes

    • jazznick1 says:

      The far left BBC conveniently leaves out the fact that the Scottish ruling is not relevant to the main case going to the Supreme Court here as the laws differ.

         9 likes

  24. Cassandra says:

    Take this, BBC Diversity!!!!

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       39 likes

    • MarkyMark says:

      Week#1: Men can wear dresses and go into ladies’ toilets.

      Week#2: Girls cannot wear skirts and must wear gender neutral trousers as worn by boys.

      BBC “Mental health: 10 charts on the scale of the problem”
      _97676511_mental_health_624_young_people.png

      O’Brien silenced him by a movement of his hand. ‘We control matter because we control the mind. Reality is inside the skull. You will learn by degrees, Winston. There is nothing that we could not do. Invisibility, levitation — anything. I could float off this floor like a soap bubble if I wish to. I do not wish to, because the Party does not wish it. You must get rid of those nineteenth-century ideas about the laws of Nature. We make the laws of Nature.

      http://www.george-orwell.org/1984/19.html

         21 likes

      • Thoughtful says:

        I have a friend who was a school caretaker in his latter years. He was amazed at the number of kids being diagnosed with some kind of mental illness or other, and so were their parents.

        Turns out that the school can claim a massive cash premium for every child so diagnosed, and is thus incentivised to do so, in many cases with tenuous reason.

           18 likes

  25. LastChanceSaloon says:

    I cannot find this on the BBC yet.
    https://order-order.com/2019/09/11/mps-believe-social-media-negative-impact-politics/#disqus_thread
    Politicians are unhappy with the use of social media.

    100% of current comments thinking like me, that social media shows them as they are.
    Not fit for (common) purpose, ****s
    80% should be in jail, some on death row.

    A lot of doom and gloom above, if all else fails we will have to leave the EU by walking out over the bodies of a few million dead traitors. It’s what our ancestors would have us do.

       27 likes

  26. Not Gwent says:

    According to News front page back seat driver parliament could be back for an unexpectedly early return.

       11 likes

  27. Roland Deschain says:

    I am becoming more convinced this is going to end in violence as every arm of the Establishment lines up to nullify the referendum result.

       28 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Aided and abetted by the ‘impartial’ state broadcaster…

         23 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      Roland Deschain

      I fear that his will be the direction. But I also fear that the violence will not be a clean fight, as when the people rise up, take over the street, the media and face the traitors who have taken over the state.

      It will be a nasty fight, with deranged killers and their incoherent manifestos taking up arms. Small bands of people easily identified and condemned as crazies, rather than an honorable battle of Britain.

         18 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      The British public are not prone to violence, only perhaps the extremist youth. There’ll be no rioting, no protests of any size.

         6 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      The British public are not prone to violence, only perhaps the extremist youth. There’ll be no rioting, no protests of any size.

         8 likes

  28. MarkyMark says:

    Viewpoint: Was CIA ‘too white’ to spot 9/11 clues?
    10 September 2019

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49582852

    As John Brennan, then director, put it: “The study group took a hard look at our agency and reached an unequivocal conclusion: CIA simply must do more to develop the diverse and inclusive leadership environment that our values require and that our mission demands.”

    . . . . . 2009 Fort Hood shooting …..

    After entering the building, Hasan went to the first desk to the right of the North doors and asked to see Major Parrish. MAJ Parrish worked in the building (and had been assisting Hasan in his deployment preparations). The worker went down the hall to get Parrish. According to eyewitnesses, Hasan had then gone around behind the desk and bowed his head for several seconds when he suddenly stood up, shouted “Allahu Akbar!” and opened fire.[18][19][20] Witnesses said Hasan initially “sprayed bullets at soldiers in a fanlike motion” before taking aim at individual soldiers.[21] Eyewitness SGT Michael Davis said: “The rate of fire was pretty much constant shooting. When I initially heard it, it sounded like an M16.”[22]

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Fort_Hood_shooting

       10 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      There are many people in the USA hierarchy who think John Brennan secretly converted to islam. If so it would explain a lot of what happened when he was around.

         9 likes

  29. Dover Sentry says:

    The Scottish Civil Court ruling won’t change anything.

    Brexit coming down the tracks…

    Dream on BBC/Remainers 🙂

       35 likes

    • Sabreman64 says:

      I’d like to think so, Mr Sentry, but I fear not. It’s over. We leavers have lost, and the duplicitous remainian bar stewards in parliament have won. There will probably be two or three more small extensions to article 50, but in the end, they will revoke article 50.

      I just hope leave voters won’t take the eventual betrayal lying down. I hope there will be protests in the streets – perhaps poll tax style riots. I will certainly take to the streets, which is something I have never done in my 48 years. But I am (and will be) damned furious about the overturning of the 2016 referendum result.

         40 likes

      • Old Goat says:

        Much as I would like to believe otherwise, I think your ‘taking to the streets’ will be a pointless gesture unless others are suitably inflamed, and do the same. My experience is that they won’t bother, in any numbers, if at all. This Brexit show will slowly die a death, and things will continue as before, with the comfortable electorate going about their business as usual, and unwilling to participate in yet another election, the result of which will make little difference to anyone.

        A Labour government (or coalition) will take the reins, for a while, whilst the country continues to descend into the abyss, probably at an enhanced rate. The EU will remain in overall control, until such time as it, itself, collapses – which cannot be far off.

           22 likes

        • Lefty Wright says:

          Old Goat
          Cheer up you old sod. It’s not over ’til it’s over!

             13 likes

        • smoogie7 says:

          Labour are on the cards. They have been pushing and pushing and will not stop until they win. To them Brexit is a game and a tool to get into power.

          I expect that the polls are picking up on the response to the pro Corbyn bias. By the end of next week Labour will be ahead in a couple of polls and after feeling confident they will call a vote of NC once parliament sits and Corbyn will end up as caretaker. He will delay Brexit, be branded a hero and will have full support of the media.

          A Corbyn minority will take office boosted by the Lib Dem’s and SNP. Both get a second referendum. The Lib Dens get to push remain but on their terms. Leave will only win if they can get 80% and Scotland get Indyref2 breaking the union.

          That is worst case scenario but better be prepared for the blow now than to be shocked later

             5 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        It does appear right now, 17.49 on 11 September, Sabre, that Bojo was appointed to Wrexit.

           1 likes

      • dfhunter says:

        @Sabre

        bet London peps will be on the streets cheering this great victory for the EU/UK & Democracy (with BBC & MSM lapping it up as they broadcast the events)

           0 likes

  30. Terminal Moraine says:

    Have whittled down my R5 exposure to minimal but just switched on to hear Emma Barnett: “… how many tampons female astronauts need…”

    Back to Bengali FM for more diverse and balanced programming

       23 likes

  31. Beltane says:

    Keeping us fully informed via impartial opinions on the current situation, the BBC give us the redoubtable Dominic Grieve, followed by balanced and deeply knowledgeable Ed Davey.
    And now, over to the TUC conference….

       32 likes

  32. digg says:

    So in the true democratic spirit of a Gina Miller. the desperate remainers go to a Scottish court to get a ruling to stop Boris.

    The fleeing to court syndrome represents new insidious and evil threat to our democracy. No doubt they knew that an English court would be less prepared to give them what they wanted so Scotland being pretty much a remain outfit, certainly at the higher echelons was the weapon of choice.

    The British people now have only one tactic left to show their disgust at this. The next General Elections! I hope that every MP involved in this has been noted for a trouncing when the elections come along and which now includes the majority of the snake-lke Labour party.

    Come on everyone who can make this happen, lets get rid of these reptiles in a way that no court can overturn regardless of whether they succeed in advancing their anti-people plot or not..

       38 likes

    • G says:

      Digg,
      Let’s face it, the lower courts (Mags/County Courts) normally always follow previous precedents (‘stare decisis’) but the higher courts toy with the law. In my view, there has to be many a time in any appeal process that a judge in a higher court will make an important decision based upon his/her/its personal preferences. To avoid any allegation of personal preference, they just mould the law around their decision in an attempt to conceal their personal preferences.

         21 likes

  33. Dystopian says:

    Not heard on the BBC.
    Piers Corbyn on Talk Radio speaking to Mike Graham and calling out the fake “man made climate change” narrative put out by the globalists and funded by Soros.
    He was talking about an organisation called “Action 4 life” who are trying to publicise evidence that man made climate change is a hoax.
    PS The “Extinction Rebellion” trouble makers are making a nuisance of themselves outside of the Civic Hall in Leeds at the moment.

       27 likes

  34. BRISSLES says:

    I find it staggering that highly paid lawyers and barristers don’t scrutinise every legal loophole before a parliamentary decision is made. If they did, then there would be little point in opponents crying “its illegal to do …….” and then apply to the Courts for an overruling.

    Today’s case in point where the Scottish Courts have deemed suspension of Parliament as illegal is surely something the best legal brains should have been aware of. It beggars belief that these lawyers, who all have access to the same books of reference, don’t have all the t’s crossed before passing any action is ok and legal !

       26 likes

    • G says:

      Brissles,
      For my time involved with the legal profession, it was clear to me, alongwith everything else, Bills/Statutes deteriorated. Toward the end my time, simple obvious errors like duplicating a sub-section number/letter became a norm. The Drafting was abysmal and errors uncorrected. So much for the Lords finally scrutinising the finished Bill.

         25 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      I don’t think they could have been aware, as it’s never been considered illegal until the judges made it up this morning. As they are wont to do, being lawyers, who can argue black is white if need be.

      However, surely if that applies to Boris, the same applies to the Speaker clearly misleading Parliament as to whether the No Deal Bill required Queen’s Consent? It manifestly did as it affects Royal Prerogative. It has to be possible to challenge him too.

         30 likes

      • G says:

        RD,
        So much for our, “Unwritten (“flexible”) Constitution”. The downfall of that erroneous statement was sure to return to haunt its advocates at some point in the UK’s history. I would be interested to know what Starkey thought about it. Anyway, behold, a Scottish court trying to alter our ultimate arbiter – the Government – representing the people/voters.
        As Starkey said a few days ago, to go against the decision of the people and dismiss and/or reverse Brexit takes this country into extremely dangerous territory.

           23 likes

    • Doobster78 says:

      Brissles – Thought the same !! Bit miffed with Boris really, i fancied him to get the job done to be honest , you would have thought he would have played the game more shrewdly than he has. He has left loopholes for the Remainers to exploit at every turn and even suspending parliament has got him nowhere really .

      Just out of interest, do the Remainers and Gina Miller every lose a court case ??? You would be forgiven thinking the judiciary is full of Remainers !! Surely not !! About as impartial as the BBC !!

      Sick as a chip with this now, how come Remain seem to find loophole after loophole and Leave are seemingly hamstrung at every turn. Infuriating !!!

         33 likes

      • Dover Sentry says:

        The only winners in all this are Lawyers – and Brexit.

        Lawyers will give you backing in any hopeless case as long as you pay them. On account, you understand……

           18 likes

      • john in cheshire says:

        My opinion, I don’t think I expected Prime Minister Johnson to be capable of getting us out of the EU. I expected that he’d draw to himself the necessary experienced and capable people who can formulate a plan that will do that for us.

        I see Prime Minister Johnson as the front man who takes the flak while his team get on with the job of getting us out.

        At the moment, I’m hoping and praying that’s what is happening.

           25 likes

        • smoogie7 says:

          What are doing to Johnson is what they are did to May. The only difference is he is at the moment sticking up two fingers to the opposition.

          One report on the Express States that he still has a plan and we will ‘know more near the time’

          Shall I get my hopes up?

          Another report on the BBC website states that Johnson has rejected a pact with Farage. What is this? We are leaving and do not need the extra support or just putting in a brave face?

          The game is still in session for now it seems

             6 likes

          • Square-Eyed says:

            Surely if Messrs Johnson and Farage could agree a pact it would be in the best interests of the Leave cause to keep it under wraps until General Election nominations close?

               2 likes

      • Doublethinker says:

        This isn’t a ******* loophole. It’s just the Remain judges have given them what they wanted. This is the fruit of Blair’s politicisation of the judiciary and just about everything else. It is also yet another confirmation that democracy is dead in our country. The consequences of this will be far reaching.

           29 likes

  35. fakenewswatcher says:

    Beeb lunchtime TV news are very, very, very excited by the ruling that parliament should not have been prorogued. Talking head after talking head after talking head comes on triumphantly to say exactly the same thing.
    “You would be forgiven thinking the judiciary is full of Remainers”
    Indeed. The beeb certainly is.

       36 likes

  36. fakenewswatcher says:

    Beeb lunchtime TV news tells us that 86 migrants crossed illegally into Britain yesterday, despite the fact that , as beeb also tells us, the French have stepped up patrols.
    As ever, we are not told what happens to these people. My guess is, they will be sticking around…
    The will that existed to resist invasion in 1939-45 appears to have evaporated?

       28 likes

  37. s.trubble says:

    See this loathsome, snp Cherry woman is getting paraded before us by the even more loathsome bBC…( and Sky) catching up fast.

    This Scottish Court played an eerily similar card during a case about Benefit trusts used by a Glasgow Football Club………..in a recent tax case.

    Despite 2 technical tax law tribunals finding in favour of the Football club….it was appealed a 3rd time by HMRC.

    Ending up at the Scottish High Court where the technical arguments were dispensed with in favour of a ruling which basically said……..

    “…common sense would tell you”

    Interesting that the first sentence in their latest ruling talks about ” stymieing Parliament”

    Many up here are forming opinions that this court is mickey mouse
    and untrustworthy…….just like the woman Cherry who is spending all her time to disrupt the United Kingdom.

       25 likes

    • Luckyharry69 says:

      @s.trubble
      Joanna Cherry has just a 1,097 vote majority in her constituency…the lowest out of all the SNP MPs in Edinburgh…
      just saying……….

         18 likes

  38. fakenewswatcher says:

    ITV mentions the same thing as beeb re parliament, but points out that the Supreme Court would have to decide next week. Not quite as carried away as the beeb. One person suffices to bring the news.

       12 likes

  39. Fedup2 says:

    Seems the Supreme Court hearing starts next Tuesday – probably 9? Sitting to hear the combined cases. A unanimous decision is , I think , unlikely and even if Brexit wins the Remainers will seize on the dissenting judgement (s) for the ‘next way forward’.

    Personally although I don’t read as many judgements as I once did I think the judges will avoid stepping on executive toes and stay out of politics .

    Mind you it depends on whether there is existing case law on Prorogation – I know there was trouble in Canada on it but have no detail ….. might look it up . Or maybe not ….

    Not worth admitting defeat yet .

       16 likes

    • G says:

      Fed,
      It’ll probably be a nine justice case next week due to the importance.
      Hmmmm. Let’s suppose that the decision is made in a 5/4 ratio, in favour of keeping the courts out the business of Parliament. Roughly the same as the 52/48% in the 2016 Referendum. What then? Clearly the Remoaners will not accept the decision either. A Call to Arms is the only alternative left. Maybe a military coup? Doubtful as the military is so depleted that it could not mount anything at present. The Police, so-said, 20,000 short with parents, friends and relatives who voted in 2015. Lock up the ones who join the insurrection?

         10 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        G
        With the way Parliament is operating – both houses and speakers – wouldn’t be surprised if, whenever they return , they just push an article 50 revocation act through in 48 hours.

        They’ve happily rubbished the Referendum during the last years so ignoring it won’t be much of a push for them . The end of term stuff the other night shows there is a pretty strong ‘groupthink’ going on which might not dissipate whilst they are out of the Commons because they’ll still be scheming …..

        Meanwhile voters are still going ‘what the ….?’

        G – I reckon your comment will be picked up by the watchers and you’ll be joining me on a ‘list ‘ . A very long one and we’d probably be down there with Bolton or Bury ….

           15 likes

        • G says:

          Fed,
          “G – I reckon your comment will be picked up by the watchers and you’ll be joining me on a ‘list ‘ . A very long one and we’d probably be down there with Bolton or Bury ….”
          They’re probably building a re-education camp somewhere in remote Powys as we speak.

             2 likes

  40. Thoughtful says:

    I think it might be useful to take a look at the reasons why the elites want to remain in Europe, and so far as I can see ALL the reasons are to do with personal gain, and non pro the European project.

    Labour (people not the party).
    The Tories HATE the British working class, and with good reason. Ever since the formation of the Labour party and the Unions they have been a thorn in the side of the economy surly lazy, and strike prone, the culmination being the general strike when the left attempted to overthrow democracy. It didn’t end until Margaret Thatcher crushed the unions, but the emnity lived on.

    It’s no better on the Labour (party) side though. They started off as the champion of the White working class, but in the 1970s the made a concious decision to betray them. The meeting went something like “The average working man is a racist, and we represent the average working man so shouldn’t we be racist too”?
    The answer came back that Labour should champion the ethnic minorities and fight the working class they were supposed to represent. Alas those dim witted workers were to stupid to notice the change and that the party which once championed them now stood as their enemy.

    Enter the EU accession states and the free movement of people, and the Chairman of the Tory party didn’t even advertise vacancies in the UK for his ‘Next’ warehouses (or if he did no one noticed). Slurs were cast against the White working class that they were workshy and idle. Labour joined in, in the hope the newcommers would vote for them.

    Grants for Land under the CAP.

    Any landed gentry such as Lord Hesseltine have been raking in farming subsidies for years, a £100 K pa income for him and similar amounts for others, quite clear they aren’t going to want to give that up.

    Offshore Tax advantages.

    Britain is a high tax Socialist country and many of the EU member states are offering companies lower corporation tax to offshore their headquarters and pay less tax (nothing to the UK exchequer). Tory Grandee Martin Sorrell headquarters his advertising agency in Ireland for tax advantages.

    Vote rigging. Nearly all election fraud has been in Labours favour, and virtually all of it has been by Pakistani Muslims which the Tories are too cowardly useless and incompetent to do anything about. The recent Peterborough by election which was narrowly won by Labour saw allegations of widespread vote rigging with Eastern Europeans being paid £20 to vote Labour.

    Undemocratic legislation.

    EU diktats do not pass through parliament for approval or debate, they simply pass into UK law, but before they do the civil service applies something they call ‘gilt edging’ where many more clauses are added without parliament ever getting to even hear about them.
    If we leave the EU it will become impossible for Whitehall to impose law by diktat and it will have to pass through the commons and be subject to debate. Worse for the elites is that the people will get to know what they are up to.

    Having to implement our own laws means a lot more work for MPs which they don’t want to do.

    Protection from accountability.

    How many times have you heard “well we would but EU law” the Welsh Steelworlks where the government was forbidden from a bail out, and many other instances.
    The elites can hide behind the protective cloak of EU legislation and requirements instead of taking responsibiliy and being accountable themselves.
    Leave the EU and the protective cloak vanishes.

    Cheap household labour.

    This one has been aired many times but it is still valid. The elites are able to draw on a pool of cheap servants and handymen which they could never do before. Nannies, Au Pairs, Cleaners, plumbers etc etc.
    They do not want to lose this nice comfortable help.

    I hope I have shown here that the elites are not pro remain because of some fanatical belief in ‘ever closer union’, they are pro remain purely because of what they can get out of it. Sure there are passionate remainers who do believe in the EU project, but by and large not many in the elites.
    Paradoxically Corbyn wants to be out of the EU because he wants to be free of the shackles which restrict his spending plans, the other more moderate in his party have forced him to rethink this.

    If anyone else can add to this list of reasons then please do because the more we understand why the elites are so pro Europe, the more we can pull them up over it.

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful – I’d tone down the benefit of parliamentary scrutiny ol legislation if I were you – the surrender act and fixed term parliament monsters being leading current examples .

      My law prof specialising in EU law used to marvel at the way the UK civil service locked in EU legislation whilst other EU countries would get away with watering down if it suited them .
      That was back when Maastricht was being kicked about …..

         15 likes

      • dfhunter says:

        @Thoughtful & Fed
        i’m in the middle of reading “the great deception” by brooker & north 2005 (many pages, so 6mths to go I think).

        my take from memory (16yrs old in 1973) & the book so far is we the public were told/sold were joining a common market which was a good/desirable thing.

        don’t think we had a vote on this(Heath gov)? but at the time I thought it sounded ok ish.

        but as the years have gone on the “common market” has expanded to become the EU with powers over almost every aspect of UK & other member countries laws etc.

        some may be happy to let non elected EU technocrats decide our laws & where a large chuck of our tax & vat moneys goes but I now at 62 want it spent wisely looking after our own people.

           2 likes

  41. Guest Who says:

    Ems clearly has a good grasp of BBC-sources saying hard fact vs. airy ‘myth’ about stuff the BBC is less keen on.

    Could that mayo-topped turkey twizzler be any more bent?

       12 likes

  42. Kaiser says:

    dearie dearie me

    foreign students who only came here to get a decent education, nothing else

    complain about having to go home

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49661085

    “Shreya Swamy, who moved to the UK from India last year, has just finished studying for a master’s degree in illustration at the University for the Creative Arts”

    so drawing at some second rate uni

    “I feel really helpless, and almost regret coming here to study because I’m going to just end up going back home with a very expensive piece of paper”

    when I thought I was buying my way onto the island of gold for £10k

       28 likes

    • Frustrated says:

      Kaiser, I’m afraid I thought exactly the same when I stumbled over
      “I almost [what, only almost??] regret coming to the UK to study” … :o(

      Nearly all of the “poor students” they mention are doing some sort of art or fashion course and but they reckon they will able to contribute massively to the UK economy.

      Seems they “won’t be able to get a job back home” so are looking to work here (well, what if we don’t need them either?!?)

      And “how are they expected to get a job in 4 months?” … Such a poor show of UK.

      Welcome to the real world

         7 likes

  43. andyjsnape says:

    the beeb reports
    “Apple’s iPhone 11 Pro ‘triggering’ fear of holes”

    Pathetic!, and goes on to quote someone using twitter in Nigeria who this will affect lol

    Keep paying the tele tax for those that do

       5 likes

  44. Not Gwent says:

    Is Corbyn planning to use the possible early resumption of parliament as an unexpected opportunity to demand a General Election?

       14 likes

  45. tarien says:

    This Archbishop Welby obviousy by his extraordinary action in India, has or holds contempt for the British people whose ancesters did so much to aid India, introducing so many of its inventions, such as Trains, of which the Indian people have used and enjoyed for so many years-however their Maharaja’s for centuries before the British were anywhere near India behaved with complete distain for their own people, control, enslavement and a policy to keep those people ignorant and poor. So why would this British member of the church of the United Kingdom bring his own ,mostly unfounded condemnation of our ancesters so contemptuously. Brought shame to the position of Archbishop-certainly has lost any respect that I and no doubt many may have had for him.

       19 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      It seems to me that just like Pope Francis in the Roman Catholic Church, ABC Welby and that druid before him, Rowan Williams, have been infiltrated into the Church of England to destroy it and therefore Christianity, from the inside. I think they are all commie placemen.

         14 likes

  46. G.W.F. says:

    Something for the BBC to gloat over. The Palin’s are getting a divorce. I am particularly sad, having devoted much effort to correcting lies about her. Over time I have received frequent messages from her and about a week ago … nothing. Now I hear of this.

    https://www.westernjournal.com/todd-palin-files-divorce-sarah-palin/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=PostSideSharingButtons&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons&fbclid=IwAR0qXG4zBYxpzRraKVv3AjJiNhcMJmTYq5QP-W9k74TEuXpXQejOiZ2u-dk

       6 likes

  47. Celtic_Mist says:

    Maybe somebody has already mentioned this but I have noticed some activity suggesting a Brexit protest involving stopping paying the TV license.

    What would be the pros and cons of this idea?

       18 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      There are the obvious pros of hurting the BBC while showing a limited form of public dissent with no collateral damage to other vital services eg NHS , defence. The only downside is that some folks will get picked on by the BBC and fined or sent to prison . My suggestion would be to actually pay the equivalent of the LF into a fighting fund which was used to finance legal teams to fight the BBC at every case they brought.
      Of course there would have to large numbers taking part for to be worthwhile , a million or more. The organisation will be difficult and I feel this is the main stumbling block to my mind.

         4 likes

    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      Well I suppose it would be a ‘pro’ for the BBC, compared to thousands of irate citizens marching with pitchforks and torches determined to lynch them all and set their buildings afire. And salt the smouldering ashes.:)

         2 likes

  48. JamesG says:

    Can someone please answer a very simple question: is France at war at the moment? Is it dangerous? Because if not, why are leftists insisting that we should take in migrants from France. They should be claiming asylum in the first safe country they arrive in. The French authorities should be stopping the migrants from risking their lives by trying to cross the channel in inflatable dinghies. No-one seems to care about the French inaction on this subject.

       37 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      Not dangerous here, just rather parched and dry.

         7 likes

      • Mrs Kitty says:

        Could be dangerous getting in the way of the stampede to Calais/ Ouistreham/Dunkirk/ St Malo/ Zeebruge etc. Already decided if we need to drive back to Blighty we’re heading down to Santender in Spain, the French number plate does fool them as well. Went through Ouistreham last time and although there were many gentlemen of a dusky hue milling around they ignored us and concentrated on harassing the trucks. Scared us the way the trucks ignore red lights because they don’t want to stop.

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        • Doublethinker says:

          If any government wanted to stop the migration it could do so within a week. But the truth is that the governments of France, UK, Germany , Holland, Belgium , Spain etc are all perfectly happy for it to continue.

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          • BRISSLES says:

            According to our wise sage Maxi, if you don’t fancy living in one safe country you can carry on regardless until there is one you want to settle in and claim asylum. Are’nt we silly, we should have known this.

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  49. G.W.F. says:

    Have the Trots in the BBC mentioned that today is the anniversary of 9/11?
    I can’t find anything and assume they are awaiting a tweet from Trump about it which they can interpret as evidence of Islamophobia.

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  50. JamesG says:

    Labour have a slight problem at the moment. They want to bring down the government — but they don’t want an election. Because they know they’ll lose it. Difficult.

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    • smoogie7 says:

      I hope they lose it but Corbyn is dangerous. He pretty much has the media on his side

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    • Fedup2 says:

      James – I have to disagree – they have already bought down the government . They are the government – an informal coalition of remain parties running the show .

      The more I think of it the more I think Labour will hold off any talk of a General Election – the SNP have been bought off with the promise of another referendum and the anti liberals are growing by an MP each week .

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      • Doublethinker says:

        Labour’s new slogan will be ‘ Referenda until you get the right answer , and only then an GE’ . Junker will be purring at Corbyn’s EU style statesmanship.

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    • Lionheart says:

      I wouldn’t be too certain Corbyn will lose an election, especially when we hear things as today – the government will relax the rules allowing overseas students 2 years in which to secure employment, thus encouraging a significant increase in this sector of immigration. and it serves as a reminder that the Tories have ingrained left wing instincts which will alienate them from many of their traditional voters

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