376 Responses to Start the Week 9 September 2019

  1. Guest Who says:

    Is that ex-BBC impartial reporter Clive there, front and centre?


  2. fakenewswatcher says:

    Starkey HAS TO REMIND the R4 hacks on Toady, that parliament derives its power FROM THE PEOPLE, and is warning against parliament and what it is doing -‘deadly, deadly dangerous’.


    • cromwell says:

      I heard him eloquently reminding that labourite baroness on the power of the people and it was a joy to listen to common sense. What it did bring home is the utter disgraceful state of the opposition benches. And these scum are called honorable. What a joke.


  3. Guest Who says:

    It’s a mystery.


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Well, GW, it sort of depends what suits the moment. Remember that O’Brien told Winston that two plus two might equal four in some circumstances, as well as three or five or any other number if it suited the Party.

      On the one hand, we’re told there are multiple genders, a dozen, 72, 100 or any number you like, providing you don’t insist on a simple hetero-binary distinction.

      On the other hand, the binary logic has its uses when there’s a particular agenda to be pushed. So, for instance, if Bruce Jenner wants to be Caitlin Jenner, Vanity Fair’s “Woman of the Year” [sic] not too many moons ago and the Gold medal winner in the Men’s Decathlon at the 1976 Olympics, then the logic is, “not man = woman”, i.e. he must be regarded as a woman if he says he’s not a man.

      Likewise, Bradley Manning can become ‘Chelsea’ Manning and must not be misgendered. So, ok, if we accept that Manning is “not man”, by what non-binary logic can (s)he be a woman? The multi-gender pseudo-logic dictates that “not man” does NOT equate to “woman”, just as “not woman” cannot equate to “man”.


  4. MarkyMark says:

    A sane Country … where a man called Stormzy who shouts out the name of his beloved “Oh Jeremy” and refuses to turn up to sing for his beloved is said to be the equal of Beethoven.

    A sane Country where the wrong words can get you arrested or lose you your job from ASDA, just using a comedians views on a religion that is so sensitive it demands a word is created to stop any criticism, but will not create other words for other religions.

    A sane Country where beating a drum and rubbing your crotch at Notting Hill with the police joining in is deemed as worthy as ballroom dancing and a symphony of Beethoven.

    A sane Country the genital mutilation of girls is said to evil but the police cannot arrest anyone because that would be more evil and yet children as young as 4 are told they can have their genitals removed as a trans gender on the NHS so they can be who they really are even though they have no idea who that is yet.

    A sane Country that has a border to protect by its Government but lets 66 migrants sail freely onto its shores then classes them as undocumented without worrying that criminals would do this very thing to escape jail in Iran.

    An insane Country ….


  5. fakenewswatcher says:

    It is parliament that has attempted, under Bercow, to become the dominant political institution -which will tell the PM what he can and cannot do in future.
    It is now up to the people to cut the parliament back down to size, and remind MPs that they are the SERVANTS of the people, not their masters. The sight of some MPs drunk on power is not a pleasant one. They know they’re being televised, so play up to the cameras to earn their little place in history.
    I look at the Blackfords and listen to the Grieves of this world, and I realise the extent of their corrosive fanaticism, visible and audible to all. Whereas the former is clearly a rabble-rouser, the latter is more dangerous – knowledgeable, a good speaker, couching his treachery in reasonable- sounding demands, while actually trying to undermine the Executive and the nation, in order -presumably -for us (and prospective employers) to see what a big shot and clever lawyer he is. The Rebels have suddenly discovered ‘THE LAW’, but that will be the case only for as long as it suits them. And they will be making it up as they go along, and simply shoving it through parliament with the connivance of he speaker, a law every day or two if necessary to achieve their objectives.
    Time for the people to lay down some firm boundaries as parliament gets much to big for its boots, acting not for them, but for its own vanity.


  6. MarkyMark says:

    Bercow Prorogued!


  7. MarkyMark says:

    Brexit … the idea that others do not agree with you is so wrong and should be stopped.. …..


  8. Fedup2 says:

    There are so many different versions of Hell arnt there?

    The latest one is to spend eternity listening to traitor MPs telling Bercow how great he is .

    I thought I’d wake up, turn on the TV and find the traitors still pouring joke praise on him . I bet he is watching the DVD for the umpteenth time …

    More important news – the chancellor has announced duty free will return – because of Brexit …..


    • john in cheshire says:

      It reminds me of the old joke about the narcissist. In conversation he suddenly stops and says:

      ” That’s enough about me. Let’s talk about you, tell me how great do you think I am?”


  9. MarkyMark says:


    Gifts, benefits and hospitality from UK sources

    Amount of donation, or nature and value if donation in kind: Two tickets for a football match on 20 September 2018, with associated hospitality; total value £340

    Amount of donation, or nature and value if donation in kind: Two tickets for a football match on 4 November 2018, with associated hospitality; total value £440

    Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: two tickets to attend the ATP World Tour Finals on Sunday 11 November 2018, total value £144

    #Amount of donation or nature and value if donation in kind: two tickets to attend the ATP World Tour Finals on Wednesday 14 November 2018, and associated hospitality, estimated total value £244



    • john in cheshire says:

      I’d like to see the personal and business phone records, texts, emails and other communications to and from messrs Hammond, Grieve, Clark, Adonis, Robbins et al. from the past three years.

      I’ll bet they would reveal their treachery and be enough to have them prosecuted and jailed. In Belmarsh prison.

      I’ll also bet that GCHQ has a copy of all of them. Perhaps Prime Minister Johnson should be demanding access to them.


  10. MarkyMark says:

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  12. MarkyMark says:

    “Newly erected poster of Ursula Von der Leyen in Brussels reads: “‘In fair free elections, the power of the people, determines the people in power”

    1. She didn’t stand in a fair/free election – she was the EU’s only candidate
    2. Doesn’t this feel a bit North Korea? ????????????”


    • john in cheshire says:

      First it’s the posters. Then it’s the statues. Then it’s mandatory to have the leader’s picture on the wall in every house, workplace and office.

      Then come the songs in praise of the great leader, that must be sung in every school and workplace each morning. Followed by the joyless EU anthem.


      • Mrs Kitty says:

        In every French classroom from Monday 2nd September 2019 compulsory to have an eu flag alongside the French one.


  13. MarkyMark says:






  14. Dover Sentry says:

    Reporters ambushed Dominic Cummings today about Brexit:

    “What’s your next move?”

    “You guys need to get out of London. Don’t talk to people who are rich Remainers”

    “Will Britain leave the EU on time?”



  15. Frustrated says:

    As the BBC keep on repeating Bercow’s claim that this year prorogation is longer than standard – here again the table presented by “sciencefiles.org”:


    So I thought I’d try and find another source and discovered this in the HoP Library. They bend the truth to suit their purpose:

    “Prorogation is the mechanism by which parliamentary sessions are ended. On 28 August 2019, it was announced that Parliament would be prorogued no later than 12 September 2019. It was confirmed on 9 September that Parliament would be prorogued later that day, bringing an end to the current 2017¬-19 session which started in June 2017. The new parliamentary session is to begin 34 calendar days later on 14 October 2019.

    Based on data since 1900, excluding first sessions of new parliaments (ie. those following general elections):
    • The number of calendar days between the end of the 2017-19 session and the start of 2019 session would be the largest since 1930.***
    • From 1900 until 1930, it was not unusual for there to be lengthy breaks between sessions, a mean average of about 72 calendar days. The median average was 54 calendar days.
    • Since 1930, the mean average has been about 5 calendar days, a median average of about 9 calendar days.
    • Since 1999, the mean average has been about 8 calendar days. The median average is around 5 calendar days.”

    *** That is simply untrue: Parliament would have been absent from mid-September to early October during the three-week party conference season anyway – AS PLANNED AND AS HAPPENS EVERY YEAR.

    Seems to me the length of prorogation is absolutely average?
    Won’t hear BBC “admitting” this though.

    The BBC’s Toady presenters must be tone-deaf. It would have been better if they hadn’t replayed the Opposition singing “anthems” in HoC last night (no doubt that will be repeated throughout the day – how appalling …)

    While looking for the prorogation terms I found this, Guy Verhofstadt on twitter: “John #Bercow is a driven speaker and gifted orator but above all the keeper of the great British parliamentary tradition. I would love if we could welcome him in the European Commission or European Parliament”

    Says it all really …

    The blog on which I found it cheered me up a bit though…


  16. Dover Sentry says:

    Could the following be the new Parliament?

    1. 43 MPs to represent each County in England and Wales.

    2. All could be seated in a shipping container.

    3. Parliament could be transported out of London and around the UK on the back of a lorry to meet the electorate.

    4. Dominic Cummings as Speaker.

    5. All to be in place by November 1st this year.

    Not too much to ask?


  17. Fedup2 says:

    More positive economic news following on from yesterday

    Guido reports pay increases are up by 4% average – ahead of inflation .
    Whilst all that remainer wind has been wasted the economy is ticking along …….despite brexit .


    • taffman says:

      Al Beeb have now reported the good news with the Brexit ‘rider’ quote…………..
      “Brexit uncertainty undoubtedly has sapped firms’ enthusiasm for hiring new workers, but sharply rising unit labour costs also are playing a role.”
      Their ‘researchers’ must look at the posts on this site to gather their news ?


  18. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Watching Blackford last night
    The right honourable member for Greggs kept banging on about ‘material change’ – the only ‘material change’ that fat c*nt needs is waist 54 trousers instead of 50.


    • Jeff says:

      “…the honourable member for Greggs” and “…only “material change” that fat Cxxx needs is a waist 54 trousers instead of 50.”
      Thanks for that, it made me chuckle!
      Blimey, I’m just glad he doesn’t wear a kilt…


  19. vesnadog says:

    BBC Radio 5 Live, this morning.

    Nicky Campbell must read this website as today he went through his usual rants then (I’ve never heard this happen before ) mockingly pressed some button or other and this happened;


    “paperless ways on how to buy your next TV licence. Its real easy to do it. Email us, write us, phone us, in fact everything can be done form your favourite armchair. Immediately etc etc”

    BBC CODE: we can follow your every move electronically so you had better buy our licence or else.

    I was paraphrasing sadly as the add was too long to remember for my brain.

    But Campbell was in a very surely mood just afore he gave us the BBC above add.



  20. fakenewswatcher says:

    Swinson wants officially to cancel Brexit alltogether, I see.
    Treacherous hag.
    I understands she leads a party with ‘Democrats’ in its name.
    Must be illiterate.
    Suppose that will earn her a lengthy interview with beeb R4 news at 10pm tonight. They gave Dominic Grieve one last night, and I thought it was never-ending: The Dominic Grieve Show on R4. After that, they managed to squeeze N Zahawi in for the Tories, for a few minutes, but he sounded ineffectual after the combative Grieve. Anyhow, R4 made sure he had to be cut short.


    • vesnadog says:

      Every Labour MP must be agonising something rotten just now knowing that the clock is unavoidably ticking down to the day of their departure and a return to a proper job. Especially the northern MPs. They will simply get obliterated. I’ve never known my family to be so angry at the lies of the remain MPs and those who assist them in their resistance of a GE. The dam will burst though. Soon rather than later. It must do.


  21. G.W.F. says:

    So what is Boris’s big plan? Media are speculating non stop.
    I could be wrong, but I see Boris still supporting a watered down Treezer deal.
    For the next couple of weeks he bashes Labour for blocking an election and trying to delay Brexit. Then wham, EU agrees to a Treezer deal with Boris and we Brexit in name only presented, however, as a victory for Boris, getting us out for Halloween. Boris goes on to win the General Election as the peoples PM.
    Farage will continue to fight for a real Brexit.

    UKIP will fight for immigration control and be blasted by everyone.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      It’s quite possible, but he must know that if he did that the Tories would be decimated in the subsequent election. He really has no option but to leave on no deal if he can find a way to do it. Though still the BBC pretends there are no loopholes by which he can.

      Meantime, I read that No 10 fully expects an attempt to revoke Article 50 when Parliament returns. Are MPs really so oblivious to public sentiment as to try? On current evidence I’d say they are.


      • oldcrone says:

        They just don’t care anymore. In this country we have no consequences for actions. Anarchy!


  22. JimS says:

    Seeing as the whole basis of QI is that what we have been told, quite likely by the BBC, is wrong shouldn’t the BBC be ashamed?


  23. Doublethinker says:

    In the Telegraph this morning William Hague writes that it is a disgrace that Boris expelled the 21 Tory rebels. He goes on to say that the Tory party has always been a broad church and accommodated dissenting views, that these rebels are honourable men and women who have done great service to the party and country. It astonishes me that the Tory power brokers like Hague still don’t get it. The party that got 9% of the vote in the Euro elections in May is a dead duck. The only way it can survive is to deliver as a minimum a decent Brexit that Nigel Farage will at least conceed is much better than the May WA, even if he isn’t enthused about it. Of course the closer they get to an endorsement from Nigel the better things will be for them.
    Tories like Hague are completely out of touch with the public and with most Tory party members. The public and Tory membership not only want a decent Brexit , but as the Brexit blockers in the liberal establishment continue their childish games , they want the establishment to be replaced by a more nationalistic one. The liberals across all parties have had all their cover stripped away by the Brexit struggle , we can see them to be anti British internationalist and we want rid of them. If you are a Tory MP, ordinary member or a grandee like Hague , join the revolution or face the consequences. It is the only way the Tory party can survive. I also think that a lot of Labour MPs should heed that advice because their cover has been blown as well and their constituents realise the MPs and Labour has not been representing their interests.


  24. barry69 says:

    I note that yesterdays reasonably good economic news was relegated to a brief mention on the News at One and not mentioned at all on the News at Six. Dearest Faizal must have been lying down in a darkened room.


  25. fakenewswatcher says:

    Double – Indeed, this whole episode has shown the voting public who’s who in the zoo, and when the time comes, we shall remember them.
    Astonishing how many ‘Conservatives’ turned out to be anything but conservative.

    As for ‘reasonably good economic news’, Barry, beeb managed to place that quite far down the rankings in later TV news bulletins. Now if Labour had managed that…


    • Roland Deschain says:

      The BBC had the excuse for that on today’s Good Morning Scotland. All these PPI claims gave the plebs one-off money to spend. Yes, really. OK, they didn’t say “plebs”, but that was the inference.


  26. Guest Who says:


    Recently had a convo with an excitable Remainer about BBC programming, specifically transparency, editorial integrity and trust.

    They started firing links at me. All iPlayer and staff tweets.

    The convo stopped when I pointed out that I was unable to view the iPlayer programmes and two of the staff accounts cited had blocked me for asking questions they did not feel like pursuing.

    The not only create and live in their bubble, they guard it fiercely.

    How that is a viable state media model, I am unclear.


  27. Foscari says:

    You watch the BBC now drop Sir Geoffrey Boycott from Test Match
    coverage on the radio. I expect he will be replaced by some women
    who ticks all the right boxes, as one by one the male presenters
    and reporters are being replaced by women. So it’s now more
    than 80% female presentation on news programmes. BIG BROTHER ,be he a he a she, or an it ,at the BBC must of had an
    orgasm when hearing what Sir Geoff said to one of his many
    women liberal bigot presenters.”.
    “Good on you Sir Geoff” I say. And if the BBC go after you. There
    will be MILLIONS of us , sticking up for you!!!!!!!!


    • The WestWyvern says:

      I commented on Sunday, during the game that Geoff was noticeable by his absence these days. His appearances seem to be limited/closely controlled too just one or two a day, whereas Ebony Raining-Brent seems to get at least two stints a session.

      I think I was trolled by a Pikey claiming it was due to his other ‘media commitments’ and nothing to do with some conspiracy theory regarding Al-Beebs diversity and women only agenda,

      If the world’s greatest Yorkshire-man gets grief over his appearance on Toady, and there are ramifications for his already limited TMS appearances, cant he just state that any views ‘are my own’ ala Gary the crisp salesman’ Lineaker’, after all the jug-eared one has been getting away with spouting his undemocratic remain nonsense for years.


      • Daphne says:

        I watched University Challenge last night and if I am not much mistaken, one team member was a transgender person ( I am a middle aged woman from the West Country so a bit slow on the uptake in these matters, i am happy to be corrected. I called the other half in for a second opinion, I shan’t repeat his comment). What was very noticeable though was the ratio of close-ups the person got compared to the other contestants, about three to one. I was left feeling that some sort of point was being made, I’ll be bumswizzled if I know what though!


        • oldcrone says:

          I agree Daphne .. I like UC but you have to be aware of the sly manipulation they use to get us to accept “genderism”. Every week I always scrutinise the contestants as I know they will be pushing the “gender issue” and in some instances it is difficult but you begin to see that “things just aren’t as they appear” I agree that the amount of camera time showing an obvious trans is completely over the top. Why??? do they do this ?? Can somebody tell me what I am missing in this current media propaganda?


          • Daphne says:

            Hello OC…i can only think that, given the broadcaster’s apparent view that most of the public are thick bigots who would be shocked and disgusted at the very idea of a transgender person, it is a form of aversion therapy…i.e,”if we bombard them with enough images, they will eventually accept it”. Again, I am possibly showing my ignorance but if someone has a genuine medical need to change gender, you would think that , having gone through that, they would rather then go about their business and live their life with no special attentions of any kind?


  28. Doobster78 says:


    Parliament has officially been suspended for five weeks, with MPs not due back until 14 October.

    Amid unprecedented scenes in the Commons, some MPs protested against the suspension with signs saying “silenced” while shouting: “Shame on you.

    Silenced ??? Silenced ?? What rubbish. We have heard nothing but your anti democratic crap for 3 years + and what about the 17.4 million you utter cretinous traitors !! They really are something else. Just scum. Utter scum. And amazingly BBC have a HYS open , here’s a quick sample in the top 10.

    So they’ve refused to listen to 17.4m people. Have handcuffed the PM during negotiations and have refused to let the people have their say with an election…. and then they hold up banners saying “Silenced”!

    Hypocrite much? The absolute gall of these people!

    Last nights fake protest by the remain Parliament was childish and pathetic. “Silenced”, I wish! all we’ve heard for the past 3 yrs is noise from these people. They have the cheek to complain about proroging Parliament & democracy when they’ve effectively prorogued the electorate since June 2016 and denied democracy. Whenever the election is they will be wiped out and they know it
    Meanwhile. Out in the REAL WORLD … Boris’s ratings continue to rise !! BBC must be completely perplexed.


    • Not Gwent says:

      I’m totally befuddled by the Labour position. They today say on News front page what they would campaign for; yet when twice offered their chance (the second time last night) turn away.

      They wave ‘silenced’ placards whilst spurning the chance to invoke their policies.


  29. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Tracking down a UK paedophile on the run in Bulgaria””


    Our money would’ve been spent far better going to Rotherham and a host of other towns.


  30. john in cheshire says:

    Isn’t Tommy Robinson out of prison tomorrow?

    I wonder what kind of press coverage he’ll get? I wonder if the racist far-left bbc collective will even acknowledge his release?

    I wonder how Julian Assange is holding up? I’d think physically and mentally he must be in poor health.


    • cromwell says:

      I reckon the MSM will follow him and try to hound him. They are at a loose end for news at the moment, they don’t want to cover Corbyn at the TUC too closely as it may put the labour electorate off hearing too much about what they have I store for the unfortunate voters.


  31. JimS says:

    Jeremy Vine – What Makes Us Human with Neil Oliver sounds remarkably like Jordan Peterson’s philosophy.

    Be responsible, bear a load!

    Well I never!


  32. G.W.F. says:

    Singing the Red Flag in the Commons.


    • Old Goat says:

      Should be singeing…


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      GWF – Blatant and without embarrassment.
      Maybe they’d be happier in Beijing, where they could join in with other red flags? Even Moscow’s given up on the idea, I was about to suggest them.
      We’d be happy to be rid!


      • Fedup2 says:

        Yes that should impress the millions of freed up East European guest workers Remainers favour over Britons so much

        Treating that hole with the disrespect it deserves . Just think – not so long ago a copper had his life taken for them .


    • AndyDozefeet says:

      “Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer…”

      You really couldn’t make it up.


  33. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    This was produced assuming the worst happened. The worst case scenario.
    It was ‘gamed’ to see what should be done to mitigate extreme and unlikely possibilities.
    A sensible precaution to look at any future dangers and to then make sure we will have strategies to prevent or manage any event, however unlikely.

    The opposition have taken this to mean that everything in this report, all the worst possible outcomes, will all happen and nothing will be done to counter this.

    Funny how they will believe this report as gospel.

    If you done the same type of extreme risk assessment for yourself you would never step outside.
    You would never cross the road because you could be killed by a speeding lorry.
    You could be struck by a meteorite and killed.
    You could be stabbed (actually, not at all so unlikely, especially in londonistan)

    In short, anything could happen and can sound as bad as you want it to.

    You can avoid being run over by a lorry by looking left and right before crossing the road and can keep safe by taking precautions.

    The remainers believe yellowhammer will all take place and regard it as a blueprint in the same way as they use 1984 as their manifesto.
    Just like the Armageddon predicted by the remainers if we voted to leave the eu in 2016.
    Of course, it didn’t happen.
    It was more like the opposite happened.


  34. G.W.F. says:

    This remark from Laura K is interesting. Does she know something that we don’t know?

    ‘And some of those tactics have been, at least temporarily, destructive, with a voluntary surrender of his own majority. (Interestingly, there’s a whisper that a way back could soon emerge for some of the 21 MPs who were booted out.)’

    link here


    • Fedup2 says:

      I doubt that she knows that much . If Boris was dying in that ditch those traitors would bury him after emptying his pockets .

      Maybe the coming party conference will let some light in . I know they tend to be very controlled these days but I’m sure there’ll be fun and games .

      I was pondering the effect of the traitor MPs being deprived of the oxygen of publicity and maybe having to go visit the place which voted for them .
      Some of them might know is as their ‘ constituency ‘ – some remainers going back to brexit majorities might get a shock . Hopefully .


      • john in cheshire says:

        I think it must be exciting, exhilarating even, to be part of Prime Minister Johnson’s team. Knowing you’re one of the good guys, finally helping to do something good and proper for our country.

        If I was younger I think I might have pestered them to let me join in. It’s the first time in literally decades when people are focused on achieving a worthwhile thing, all the while fighting and defeating the wicked ones.


  35. Deborah says:

    I woke this morning to the dulcet tones of Mark Sowatka speaking on the Today programme and likening Boris to Trump. Just been watching Julia Hartley Brewer on Talk Radio on You Tube talking with Dromey ….who likened Boris to Trump. I presume people talk of little else in Left wing circles.

    However doesn’t either of them know how popular Trump must be in some circles in America, that is the circles I would assume were Labour strongholds in this country. Might both Dromey and Sowatka actually be promoting Boris without meaning to?


    • Roland Deschain says:

      I heard JHB’s interview with Dromey this morning. Listening to his righteous indignation when he accused her of impugning MPs’ integrity was hilarious. “Darn right I am”, she said. Puffed-up self-important turd that he is.

      You wouldn’t have got the BBC challenging him as robustly.


      • Mrs Kitty says:

        Perhaps JHB should have asked Mr Harperson about his views on PIE and his wife’s view on sex with children but there again not many in both traitorous Houses are bothered about rape gangs all over the country, so nothing to see here move along.


  36. Fedup2 says:

    I suppose mr dromey – ( real name -John eugene Joseph dromey )said he will vote for his wife as speaker . Funny isn’t it -wiki says one of their unknown number of homes is in Suffolk – not very near to eithers’ constituency …now back to singing the Red Flag…


    • john in cheshire says:

      In my opinion, Mr and Mrs Dromey-Harman are bad people.
      People should be regularly reminded of their past misdeeds.
      The racist far-left bbc won’t care about any of this because they swim in the same foul smelling swamp.


  37. theisland says:

    Border Force taxi service going strong.
    22 so far, believed to be from Iran, Afghanistan, Pakistan and the Philippines. More en route.


  38. john in cheshire says:

    Off topic, as is my wont, I thought some of us who don’t have a TV licence and perhaps rely on YouTube and Amazon prime for entertainment, would be interested in a couple of series I have found worth the time to watch:

    On YouTube: TRAVELER, one word. Eight episodes. It’s better than average, certainly head and shoulders above anything the racist far-left bbc collective had on offer. I stuck with it to the end of all eight episodes. Unfortunately, it ends on a cliffhanger but the US TV stations must have decided not to make any more.

    On Amazon: Gogol. Yes, it’s loosely based on Nickolai Gogol. I’ve watched the first episode – in Russian with English subtitles – and I’ve enjoyed it a lot. Obviously, I’ll have to see if the quality of storyline holds my attention but I’m looking forward to watching episode two tonight.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Jack Ryan on amazon is surprisingly good too- I almost started binge watching it – a find replacement for all things BBC . Dump your TV licence ….please …( the TV bods still write to me telling me I’m on a ‘kill’ list or similar ) … see what too much jack Ryan does ?


  39. Beltane says:

    I see that fount of all wisdom and unbiased opinion that is Polly Toynbee advises us, in the event of a no-deal Brexit, to vote for Jeremy in his role as final arbiter of political acumen and probity.
    Then again, it was in the Guardian – not least because it’s the only organ of pleasure left to her – so it might have been tongue in cheek, so to speak.


  40. G says:

    I forgot to report earlier that I listened to Toady this morning and heard the interview with the author of some childrens book(?). Cult followers were apparently let in to Waterstones to purchase said book and midnight in the midst of wild hoops of delight and cheering when the doors opened. From what I can gather in the interview between the author and the bee cult follower, it is a sort of modern day 1984 but which applies to the US in that the women are treated as mere ‘childbearers’. The author was asked about Brexit, curiously, but despite being an American and clearly a ‘man hater’, had an opinion. That it was wrong and would be different if only women ruled the World. Like Sweden I guess. Off.
    As an afterthought I don’t think a comparison could be genuinely made with 1984 as that author was, (as I recall), non-discriminatory in the war the current females are waging against men. Ah well, perhaps the book related to Saudi Arabia and the Gulf States after all…………….


    • cromwell says:

      G It was Margaret Atwood , a Canadian author of The Handmaids Tale. It’s not a children’s book. She wrote it in 1984, I read it and was quite a good read and has been made into two series which I enjoyed watching, However they have now made a 3rd series and she has written another book.(1 series and 1 book too many) why do they always flog a good thing. In 1984 it was a different world but now as she is a raving Democrat she has suddenly discovered it could be a Trumpian dystopia.Idiot woman, when I read it I instantly thought this is a description of life under ISIS.Women kept as slaves, made to reproduce, kept down without having any say in their lives and made to wear uniform and capes and hats so they could only see in front of them…hmm maybe not only ISIS but most of the middle east. I’m afraid she is just a hate merchant.


  41. Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

    Radio 4 brief news bulletin at 16:00 today Tuesday.

    (1) British White nationalist sentenced to 18 years in prison for attack on a Bulgarian and advocating attacks on Muslims, in the immediate aftermath of the Christchurch (NZ) atrocity.

    (2) Boris, Brexit, talks with Arlene Foster leader of the DUP, etc.

    (3) Renewed IRA attacks on police officers in NI, in Creggan area.

    (4) Blood test that picks up cells indicative of prostate cancer, making invasive surgery less likely.

    An interesting running order. What do people here think about the relative importance of these stories? My order might have been (2) – (3) – (1) – (4) or maybe (3) – (2) – (1) – (4) but I don’t think I would have put the BBC’s first item (1) first … though I’m not surprised that this one was given prominence.


    • Loobyloo says:

      Yes, interesting that the judge was so keen to label it a terrorist incident, given the number of ‘diverse’ attacks we’ve had that were quickly labelled as due to mental health issues. It’s pathetic.


  42. pugnazious says:

    More extraordinary anti-Trump lies from the BBC.

    They reported this morning that ‘Trump’s mishandling of sensitive information’ had triggered the evacuation of a US spy in the Kremlin.

    Not true…the truth, as reported by the New York Times, is that the decision to remove the man to safety was taken before Trump took office…and….this was due, not to Trump, but to US Intelligence [under Obama] and the Media revealing too much information…


    ‘When intelligence officials revealed the severity of Russia’s election interference with unusual detail later that year, the news media picked up on details about the C.I.A.’s Kremlin sources.

    C.I.A. officials worried about safety made the arduous decision in late 2016 to offer to extract the source from Russia.
    The move brought to an end the career of one of the C.I.A.’s most important sources.
    Former intelligence officials said there was no public evidence that Mr. Trump directly endangered the source, and other current American officials insisted that media scrutiny of the agency’s sources alone was the impetus for the extraction. ‘

    The BBC’s web report starts off with the claim that Trump’s actions had triggered this evacuation despite knowing this wasn’t true…as they later admit further down the report…


    ‘However, its report said the CIA had wanted to extract the agent before Mr Trump took office because investigations by media were putting the asset at risk. There was no suggestion President Trump had directly compromised the source, it said.’

    Why not print that first?

    Then there’s this from the BBC’s finest in the US, Anthony Zurcher, in the same report….actually blaming Trump….a complete lie….

    ‘The episode highlights the US intelligence community’s concerns about Donald Trump and his associates in the early days of his presidency. It reflects a conclusion that an undisciplined commander-in-chief could pose a national security risk – even if only inadvertently.

    Those concerns were already public knowledge, of course, but this is the most dramatic example of their consequences.’

    If anything ultimately it was under the Obama administration that the security services released too much detailed information that the Media then homed in on trying to identify the agent….

    ‘when intelligence officials revealed the severity of Russia’s election interference with unusual detail later that year, the news media picked up on details about the C.I.A.’s Kremlin sources.
    The informant’s information was so delicate, and the need to protect the source’s identity so important, that the C.I.A. director at the time, John O. Brennan, kept information from the operative out of President Barack Obama’s daily brief in 2016. Instead, Mr. Brennan sent separate intelligence reports, many based on the source’s information, in special sealed envelopes to the Oval Office.’

    The real story, the real truth, is that this is a story about an over-eager Obama administration along with a feral Media, both intent on damaging Trump by attempting to portray him as a Russian stooge, doing enormous damage to US interests with the reckless release of information to show Russian interference was happening…linked of course to Obama administration and Media suggestions that Trump was involved in that interference…..which, as we now know, was all totally untrue and based upon the lies of Christopher Steele, a man paid to produce an anti-Trump dossier by the Democrats, which he did with the supposedly compromising ad highly damaging information provided by…guess who…Russian intelligence…as the BBC’s Paul Wood admits…and yet still he, and the BBC, tell us that the Russians were helping Trump….odd way of doing that you might think.


    ‘Claims about a Russian blackmail tape were made in one of a series of reports written by a former British intelligence agent. As a member of MI6, he had been posted to the UK’s embassy in Moscow and now runs a consultancy giving advice on doing business in Russia. He spoke to a number of his old contacts in the FSB, the successor to the KGB, paying some of them for information.


  43. theisland says:

    Further to Guest Who’s post about this yesterday – now we hear Lord James is being threatened.

    ‘Hero of Brexit’ Lord James of Blackheath Threatened over EU Defence Union
    Secret Party Political Pact of Silence on Defence Reveals Itself

    The abusive responses Lord James received from Lord Blunkett and Lord Robertson in the House of Lords were mild compared to more recent communications.

    Since then, other Lordly colleagues have begun demanding he resign immediately and have advised him he can expect a visit from the police for breach of the Official Secrets Act.
    Lord James has had the bravery to lift the lid on a policy no-one else in the political establishment wants to discuss. He needs widespread public support.

    The conspiracy of silence continues.


    • john in cheshire says:

      Messrs Blunkett and Robertson, a couple of the usual suspects.


    • English Lass says:

      Island this brave Gentleman (there are few about nowadays) says what a lot of us fear. Now he faces being drummed out of the Lords. Here is an open letter of support. Both his address and the reply below are REALLY worth reading.

      Dear Lord James of Blackheath,

      Firstly may I congratulate you on this speech you made in the House of Lords on Friday last.

      To remind everyone, here is the main body of your speech:

      “My Lords, a week ago, I wrote a letter to the Lord Speaker in which I suggested that in certain circumstances which might occur, such as this morning, the entire House of Lords is ineligible to sit. I do not intend to pursue this point, but I want to explain why it occurs. I think it is important to us.

      If the Lisbon treaty is allowed to stand and is not wiped away at midnight on 31 October, we are all, every single man jack of us, in breach of our oath on joining this House because we have allowed the omniscience of Parliament to be reduced by the elimination of the veto which was standing in our benefit until the Lisbon treaty. That has far-reaching consequences which go way beyond us and reach into the Palace and the Crown itself. We need to be aware of those implications. If I am right on that assertion—I have taken it to the Table Office and asked it to think about it, so there must be some professional opinions around—then we would be ineligible to sit today, and it would mean that this Bill cannot pass the House. I am not pursuing that.

      What I am going to say is that I think the basis on which we are going forward from here is wrong because we have a situation in which we are facing a choice between remain, the no-go solution and, as came very much into focus in the latter stages of yesterday, the possible resurrection of the May deal. The May deal and remain both carry the same consequence that they would still leave us in breach of our oath. We need to have our oaths restored to us, which would happen if at midnight on 31 October if the Lisbon treaty was wiped away.

      The first person we need to be concerned about in that respect is Her Majesty because we have the power of government placed in our hands by the coronation oath which she swore never to diminish, but we have diminished it for her. In those circumstances, do the British public realise they are being asked to consider a situation which might create a position in which Her Majesty would consider it was essential for her to abdicate? If that occurred, would it ever be possible to resurrect the monarch because nobody else could swear the same coronation oath? Let us be realistic about this. My whole criticism of the situation of opposition to no-go at the moment is that we simply have not informed the British public of what is at stake. It goes way beyond this.

      We have this wonderful paper called Yellowhammer, which tells us all the dreadful things that will happen if we do go no-go. My secretary has an alternative list that I have complied called the Black Vulture, which is my list of the things that people do not know about which will happen if we do not go no deal. The first is the hazard it creates for the Crown. The second is: will somebody please tell us the truth about the European defence union? This is by far the biggest issue facing the British public and they know nothing about it officially. Can we please have a proper account of what it entails? Is it really true that the Government have entered into private agreements with the European Community that they will, on completion of remain or whatever it is to be, transfer to the European Union in Brussels the entire control of our entire fighting forces, including all their equipment? [Laughter.] Noble Lords may jest, but it has been done and they should check it out. It is too important to ignore. We must know the truth of this. We must have it clear for the whole public to know. I believe it is true, and I think we should be told. I understand that it is intended that the oath of every serving member of our forces will be cancelled and they will be required to undertake a new oath of loyalty to Brussels. I understand that in recent months, we have had a series of people sent from our Armed Forces to create and install the command and control centres to be used for the control of our troops once we have ceased to have any control over their use, application or deployment. It goes beyond this. They are to take control of our intelligence services, the whole core of Five Eyes. They will have MI6 and the Cheltenham monitoring centre, and we will be completely excluded from it under the new arrangements and have no access either to the— (giving way to Lord Blunkett, Labour).”

      (Link to this speech In context Individually – Citation: HL Deb, 6 September 2019, c1235)

      Lord James – as I see it, your amendment was ‘dropped’. Now you mention that the House of Lords cannot sit due to their Oaths having been made to the Queen and this obviously conflicts with the Lisbon Treaty. This comment raised some eyebrows among people like myself who have become more acquainted with our Constitution.

      The House of Lords has been conducting itself unlawfully since 2000 due to the enactment of House of Lords Act 1999. I can find nobody absolutely nobody that focuses on this crucial aspect of our constitutional betrayal. This makes all legislation passed since then, null and void and this includes the Lisbon Treaty. I believe that you are a lifetime peer yourself and due to this matter, you are unfortunately personally implicated too. This information is not readily available on the internet but I have the evidence if you so wish to view? Suffice to say many peers turned up for work after the Act was passed and found themselves unable to gain entry to the House. Perhaps this is not surprising because many Lords have no official email address like your good self or at that time, did not use the internet at all?
      The following is a video that I have uploaded it onto my own YouTube channel just this morning.

      Very factual and a sad indication on how low our Parliament has sunk?

      The following video shows the timeline of the House of Lords being gradually ‘erased’ from the once all important role that the House used to have in British Society. As you are aware, the House was formed to provide the checks and balances to our ‘elected’ MPs. Unfortunately, the House of Lords is crammed full of political appointees from different political parties.
      With regard to military matters, Dave Ellis, Carol Hellier and I orchestrated a very efficient campaign to notify the MPs that ‘we’ were planning to hand our military to Brussels. It is very clear to me that NATO is about to be disbanded which is not the government’s official narrative. I will leave this matter here for now.
      Anyway, I’ve provided lots of information for you to ‘sink your teeth’ into. There are no real constitutional experts around IMHO.

      Kind regards, Caroline Stephens


  44. Loobyloo says:


    Trump Dorian tweets: Weather staff ‘faced sacking threat’ over Alabama

    FFS, they are still banging on about this. TDS and their agenda is so obvious – orange man baaad, blonde man baaaad, Brexit baaaad.
    Give it a bloody rest! I suppose during the parliamentary shut down, they will be looking for other stupid titbits to drive us crazy. I do try to avoid Al Beeb, but its twin sister Sky is just as bad.
    Fox website is also rubbish – resembles the Daily Mail Online!


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Now there’s something they can go on about. And on…… and on….. and on……


      • Doobster78 says:


  45. pugnazious says:

    Did laugh as the BBC wheeled in Alistair Campbell yet again to give us his verdict on all things Brexit…this time on May’s Honour’s List and beyond.

    Almost choked myself laughing when he stated that ‘We are in a post-truth, post-Shame era’…#duetobrexit of course. This from the most dishonest, shameless, ruthless manipulator of ‘truth’ to have graced our politics in a generation or more.

    Almost bust a gut when he carried on and claimed ‘Brexit has corrupted politics’….not meaning the Remain camp’s total corruption of parliament and the democratic process, Campbell being a powerful and zealous Remain cheerleader himself of course, but rather attacking Boris, his prorogation and of course May.

    Let’s just remind ourselves that Campbell was part of a government that packed the Lords with its own cronies who then went on to flout convention and rather than be politically neutral indulged in sectarian politics based upon Party reducing the House of Lords to a Labour Party rubberstamp….the Party that sold privilege to the highest bidder….and whilst we’re there…prorogation…John Major…he who prorogued Parliament in order to silence voices demanding to know about ‘cash for access’. So when we talk about corruption of Parliament and politics we have two prime movers and examples now presenting themselves as paragons of virtue and defenders of politics when they were at the dark heart of that corruption.

    And as for those Remain MP’s who waved cards about in Parliament claiming they were being silenced by the prorogation, these are the same people who want to ensure no voter has the ability to make a choice on no-deal, the same people who have refused voters the chance of a general election and the same people who for three years have tried to silence the voice of those voters after the referendum and stamp on their decision….the same people who will try to rig any further referendum by ensuring the options are extremely limited and weighted in favour of Remain.

    So anyone want to talk about the corruption of Parliament and the silencing of voices? At the heart of all this is a Remain dictatorship, no exaggeration, that uses and abuses its dominance in Parliament to ride roughshod over conventions, laws and the demands of natural justice. The perfect demonstration of this occured yesterday when they voted to allow themselves to demand that Brexiteers hand over their personal phones and private email accounts to enable the Remainers to sift through them to find what they hope is evidence of wrong doing…if that isn’t sinister and a total misuse of power, and quite possibly completely illegal, what is?

    And one other thing that goes unexamined by the BBC but is of considerable note, the way Corbyn, leader of Her Majesty’s Opposition, calls the Prime Minister ‘Johnson’…no ‘Prime Minister’, no ‘Mr’, no ‘Boris’….just ‘Johnson’.

    That isn’t just bad manners from a fellow senior politician and a breach of etiquette, it smacks of something far more sinister, especially when you consider the sordid pedigree of those at the top of Labour and the actions of their stormtrooper activists in Momentum.

    The dismissing the Prime Minister as ‘Johnson’ by someone in Corbyn’s position indicates a mindset that is unprepared to countenance anyone or any ideology that runs counter to their own. The lack of respect, the dehumanising, the ‘unpersoning’ of opponents is redolent of regimes that once ruled across Eastern Europe and built the Berlin Wall, regimes that controlled people’s thinking and imprisoned or shot those who dared to disagree.

    We all know what regimes and modes of action Corbyn and McDonnell favour and it doesn’t take much of a leap of imagination to understand how the future might pan out under a Corbyn regime as opponents and critics are bullied and intimidated into silence and the media into obedient acquiescence by Corbynista mobs. The gloves will come off….as Corbyn and McDonnell warned…‘Change is coming’.

    Still the BBC seems to like him.


    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Call in Malcolm Tucker, he’ll sort it.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Powerful stuff . But I fear that we ( people ) are stuck with the parliamentary situation for some time to come. I was going to say ‘ foreseeable future ‘ but that might only cover the next hour …


    • Burgsey says:

      …on the “Johnson” issue, one asumes the Speaker should jump in to put Corbyn right. Berco did this during an earlier debate when an MPs name was used by a Tory Minister rather than his constituency reference. Sorry, forgot, it was Berco, so only Tory misdameaners are identified!


  46. taffman says:

    Al Beeb “Brexit: PM insists deal is possible as he holds DUP talks”
    Don’t waste your time Boris, just “hold talks ” with The Brexit Party.
    Or you and your band of London Nincompoops Party are finished . They have been the laughing stock for over three years. Its The Brexit Party for me now, look how well they did in The EU Parliamentary Elections.
    Do I get a “knighthood” for this post ?


    • G.W.F. says:


      I watched many people say that they were finished with the Tories under May. Boris might be man of the moment, but he is too eager for a deal and might emerge with Treezer’s deal slightly tarted up.

      So its the Brexit Party keeping a look out for UKIP


    • Annunaki says:

      Taffman Earl of Splott? Baron Brynbuga or maybe Lord Pant Y Wacco ? 🙂


  47. JamesArthur says:

    My theme for today is the treatment of Sir Geoff Boycott by the glorious BBC
    me thinks they don’t like him
    R4 5 pm news headline ‘there have been calls for Sir GB to be stripped of his Knighthood after he said I don’t give toss about domestic abuse’
    Which is not what he said and it is typical BBC lying by omission and word play (who has made these calls..hmm let me guess..might it be the same woman who clearly hates him)

    They set him up at 8,30 – had the women who hates him in on woman’s hour to denigrate him and then at 5 the announce a call to strip him of award
    All I can say is Bas..ds….A complaint will be going in..
    They no longer report news they make it…


    • Annunaki says:

      He did not day that, he said he did not give a toss about calls strip him of his knighthood (by a bunch of sexist harridans,..my addition)


  48. Doobster78 says:

    Apologies in advance for 3 tweets in a row, but, Piers (the remainer) nails it.

    Then the usual lefty response which piers quite rightly points out is plain wrong ..it was Armageddon on a vote to leave, not leaving , just having the audacity to vote leave would be economic suicide we were told !!!


  49. pugnazious says:

    As Brendan O’Neill says in Spiked….


    ‘Perhaps the most grotesque sight of all, the sight that confirmed that this parliament is truly and irreparably exhausted, was Remainer MPs holding up signs declaring that they have been ‘silenced’ by Boris Johnson’s prorogation. This takes gall and arrogance to dizzying new heights.

    For these people now to present themselves as ‘silenced’, as being gagged on the Brexit issue, is mad.

    Even worse, they now prevent us, the public, from having a say on their behaviour and, in particular, on their legal block against a No Deal Brexit and their determination to secure yet another extension to the Article 50 process. Last night, MPs voted for a second time against holding a General Election. They do not want an election until they have effectively banned No Deal and kept us in the EU until at least January next year. They are going against the express will of the people and, at the same time, insulating themselves from the people’s judgement. They are usurping our democratic wishes while preventing us from having any say about this whatsoever. It is an outrage against democracy. They are silencing the masses.

    This parliament doesn’t only feel morally and politically exhausted – it feels increasingly illegitimate. It feels like the least representative parliament in living memory.’

    Luckily of course we have the BBC to stand up for truth and democracy….holding those lying, devious, shameless politicians to account….lol x a million.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug I don’t know who this chap is or what spiked is but he seems quite moderate in his view of their parliament .

      Whatever happens in the near future people in a decade or more from now will look at the kind of conduct last night and wonder what happened – a kind of group psychosis – mental issues?

      Any Wiff of English Nationalism and it is crushed as far right . Yet those creatures welch nationalists and Scots nationalism basically have made the place a sick joke – aided and abetted by an abusive speaker ranting at politicians in public .

      There may not be a General Election any time soon . Why should there be . ? The anti democratic
      Grouping of parties can get what they want when they want it – as evidenced by the volume of ‘ urgent questions ‘ where Bercow has pulled some minister in to be toasted by unrestricted ‘ opposition ‘MPs

      In the current circumstances brexit supporting MPsof any colour are under attack by all sides and might as well avoid the commons until we our out of the EU on 31 October .


      • Fedup2 says:

        I had a little look at Hansard on the ‘ fixed parliament bill ‘ as it went through the lords . It seems to have been ‘ rubber stamped ‘ without too much thought .

        It demonstrates that the usual stuff thrown out whenever the legitimacy of the House of Lords just does not apply .

        It does not ‘ refine ‘ bad law sent from the commons. 850 of them didn’t amend to to prevent a PM being unable to call an election .

        It’s just a retirement home for Party Leaders favourite mates – no merit – again no democracy . The bubble doesn’t say anything because they all want to be in it one day


        • Roland Deschain says:

          One thing has become abundantly clear from the whole Brexit debacle. The UK system of governance is no longer fit for purpose and needs completely overhauled. It is time for a written constitution – though how you get general agreement to anything in the current atmosphere I do not know.


          • Annunaki says:

            As pointed out today by the organisation I was attending: we are not being governed by the government at the moment but by a bunch of MPs and a speaker who appear to have taken over the government


          • Fedup2 says:

            Roland – I understand that Canada had constitutional problems about prorogation but it was a bit more ordered because Canada has a written constitution.

            I’ve not had a chance to research but I may well do .

            I can’t see British politicians being in an mood to change anything whilst they are making a nice living out of it .


      • G.W.F. says:

        Fed up

        Check out Spiked. Long ago it was a Marxist outfit, but has morphed into a credible news sheet with excellent articles. Usually hostile to Trump but certainly in the conservative camp with its campaign for free speech. Highly critical of bogus reporting, especially our friends in the BBC


      • Burgsey says:

        Fed up, you have hit on something that is concerning me a lot. That is, that due to the Fixed Term Parliament, the “rabble” can continue to control things on return in October. This vould go on for dome time. Even worse, could one of the rebel Tory’s start introducing a bill to lower the voting age, thereby handing militant “uneducated” potential voters to the remain side to help them over the line if a Lib Lab pact did eventually get a majority Noted at the election.

        Does Boris resigning force an election, or could the “rabble” form a Government, change the rules, go for a second referendum or simply agree to revoke Article 50.

        If so, the blame has to firmly go on the shoulders of Remainer Tory MPs who have continued to conspire against the will of the people. They alone will be responsible for the demise of their own Party if Brexit is not fulfilled. That’s Brexit, not BRINO!


  50. Dover Sentry says:

    Yes, the Lunatics take over the asylum whenever they please.