Midweek Open Thread 28 August 2019

With 64 days to go until Brexit it might be worth reminding the BBC that

270 voting areas voted leave – 406 constituencies
129 voting areas voted remain – 242 constituencies

Figures made unfamiliar by the biased MSM and worth remembering when traitors in the Bubble attempt to deny democracy.

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337 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 28 August 2019

  1. Halifax says:

    Oh am I first…..


    • vesnadog says:


      I believe that the sight of this fella in the photo promoting sedition and lawlessness was what made Boris and JRM do what they have achieved today.


  2. Doobster78 says:

    Why is it the BBC love to “fact check” the likes of Boris and his pork pie , Dominic Raab and what he may or may not have said during Brexit campaigning, Nigel Farage, Donald Trump on every word they utter, the wording on the Brexit bus. And seemingly take great satisfaction from it !!!

    BUT , never , ever pull up Corbyn, Mcdonnell, Abbott, Soubry, Lammy, Bercow , Swinson etc about anything at all ??? Constant , free reign , unchallenged , time after time on the Beeb.

    Funny that. It’s almost as if you could sense a Left wing bias at the BBC !!!

    Impartial !!!! Do me a favour !!!


    • Doublethinker says:

      When they used to have revolutions in banana republics in the fifties and sixties the first thing the insurgents did was to seize control of the local radio station. They then broadcast fake news and propaganda and the established regime simply couldn’t get their own message out. Whilst the advent of new technology has made this method of operation less effective many people still get their news from the BBC. We on this site know the corporation is completely biased to the point of lying both by omission and commission , many don’t and still believe the BBC news. Getting rid of the state funded BBC would be just as great a blow for freedom as Brexit itself.


      • Broadcasting-on-Behalf-of-the-Caliphate says:

        Doublethinker “Getting rid of the state funded BBC would be just as great a blow for freedom as Brexit itself.

        Surely you meant it would be “just as great a victory for freedom as Brexit itself


    • Cassandra says:

      I love the BBC ‘Brexit Experts’ that are interviewed that nobody has heard of. This morning’s ‘expert’ on Toady actually said that landlords would sell up and “run away with the money” (sic).
      I like it when somebody actually questions an “expert’s” facts. It doesn’t happen often on the BBC but when it does, it’s quite funny.



  3. AnneG says:

    I listened to a piece on the BBC World Service early this morning about the state of journalism in India.
    Apparently anti government newspapers are losing revenue as advertisers go elsewhere.
    What tickled me the most was the beeboid was upset by a word I have never heard before but needs a wider audience. An Indian government minister called some journalists PRESSTITUTES
    I can just imagine the rage and meltdown of the Beeb if it happened in this country.


  4. Cassandra says:

    Just tuned into Radio 2 by accident. Zoe Ball, that well known feminist and highbrow was promoting a programme on ‘heroic’ women (don’t know if it was on the radio or television), the plug went on for two minutes. What next, CBBC’s Dick and Dom promoting the EU Backstop position?
    The propaganda is relentless.


    • SPC says:

      I can see a time in the not too distant future as women continue to masculinise themselves – in other words aspiring to behave like the worst sort of male yob, that the sexes will drift apart and babies will be processed in factories to order. You can see the start of it already.


      • BRISSLES says:

        ……babies will be processed in factories to order……..

        Well, if it does away with ‘stupid’ women I’m all for it !


    • StewGreen says:

      <i<BBC News – Zoe Ball loses 780,000 listeners from BBC Radio 2 breakfast show
      \\ There are few things worse than listening to women trying to be blokey
      … and BBC Radio has systematically done this!
      Cue Jo Whiley and Where's The F In News! 🤭 //

      BTW @Cassandra I don’t spot that BBC Women trailer


      • Cassandra says:

        Just played back her show from this morning, SG. She wasn’t promoting a trailer as I thought, she was wittering on about Mattel’s Barbie Doll and that Rosa Parks “The Civil Rights Activist” was going to be the latest “Female Role Model Doll”, following in the Mattel ‘Inspiring Women’ range of dolls (52m 20s into the show). I can truthfully say I have paid for my error as my brain has turned to mush listening to this idiot blathering away.



  5. Fedup2 says:


    Nice bit of omission – Hattie Baldwin MP – introduced as a Tory MP – but no mention of her background . Yes a remainer – a May loyalist and a supporter of Jeremy Hunt this sacked by Boris from her ministerial job in July .

    She didn’t attack Brexit because she’s after a job
    In parliament – but a nice touch for BBC not to inform the listener .


  6. Fedup2 says:

    Toady 2
    The off switch has been hit as Martha – for some reason doing stuff on National Parks – finds an ethnic in a tent to interview .

    Ive done a lot of camping in national parks and the to quote Jon Snow of C4 fame – I’ve never seen so many white people .

    I’m sure there are cultural issues about West Indians climbing onto bus stop roofs to simulate sex at the Notting Hill Stab fest rather that go into the country
    But I’m sure Toady will be be debating that . I won’t know as I’m done with it today .

    Good socialist subjects this week , fostering yesterday , national parks today . Let’s guess that tomorrow will be about blind Muslims unable to get into mosques . Or why so many schools get torched in the week before the new term ..,


    • Doublethinker says:

      I know this is so far non PC that the hand cuffs await but I had a lovely walk in a NP ruined when a group of Mussies walked past me and the missus. It’s bad enough not being able to walk in our towns and cities without being made to feel an alien in your own land but for it to be happening deep in the countryside is even worse.


  7. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Why is Donald Tusk permanently chewing a whole Wasp’s nest?
    Why is Donald Tusk refusing to shake the hand of Boris Johnson?
    Why does Donald Tusk wear suits that do not fit? Worry? Cancer?
    Why is Donald Tusk, who does not represent a state, allowed to attend the G7 summit?
    Why is Donald Tusk, who respresents a repressive regime, not challenged when he states such nonsense as
    ‘Mr Tusk told reporters “This is another G7 summit which will be a difficult test of unity and solidarity of the free world and its leaders.”‘?

    I believe the strutting totalitarians in Brussels are now flailing about desperately trying to clasp any straw to stop their beloved EUSSR sinking permanently below the waves.
    I am loving it, drown you bastards, drown.


    • tarien says:

      The power does not realy lie in Brussels with a load of old croakes but with the enormously wealthy famillies who control the world. The likes of Rothschild whose family operates all the central banks in Europe, and most of the USA as well as other parts of the world, its tenticles stretch everywhere. There are just a dozen or so such famillies that control all, every major international conglomerate, governments, secret services world wide-FBI and CIA instruments of the global elite-Rockefeller directly involved in the founding of both organisations. They have had control of most of all oil production since 1928 and Onassis was the shipping magnate who built the largest oil tankers in the world at that time. Interesting to note that in WW2 every Greek Ship was sunk, except those ships belonging to Onassis. How could his ships sail down every war zone without being attacked? For this to happen agreement at the highest level was necessary. With such power whatever suits at the time can be arranged whether it be the future of the European Union or even Brexit-mind you the UK’s decison to Leave took even them by surprise. Yes Brussels are flailing about somewhat desperately as the rope is tightened to strangle out the end of the EU as is now known.


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        Is this a new portmanteau word, like testiculation, which Remainiacs like the World’s Most Mistrusted Broadcaster may be seen doing frequently
        in their attempts to betray the UK?
        A combination of tentacles and testicles.
        Whose definition “is to be insidiously controlled by someone crushing your male generative organs”.
        I like it, well done tarien.


  8. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News Video:

    “”Palestinian conflict: Diaries of childhood in Israeli military detention””

    Reporter: Megha Mohan
    Director/Producer: Yousef Eldin


    The video has the typical victim bias that the BBC favour. Slow tinkly piano music and you know straight away that the Jews are the bad guys. Holocaust interview style in reverse. Sympathetic interviews with the detained teenage Arabs who allege inconveniences such as not being fed on the day of their arrest. Visiting parents complain that security beeps at checkpoints feel like torture.
    An Israeli prosecutor stated that all interviews are videoed and the allegations of being forced to sign confessions in Hebrew(!) are false. But the BBC’s Megha Mohan won’t let go, in that slow monotone croaky voice drawl that far left women favour. No ‘gotcha’ moment but hey, she and the Director Yousef Eldin are safely beyond criticism from the BBC.

    Author Mega Mohen is far Left and a regular BBC contributor. From her website:

    “As of September 2018, Megha Mohan is the BBC’s first ‘Gender and Identity’ Correspondent.

    Prior to that she was a senior multimedia staff reporter at the BBC’s Digital Current Affairs department. There, she told stories on subcultures across Asia, Africa, the US and Europe, with a focus on gender.

    Her original reports include the influence of the Alt-Right in global politics, the War on Drugs in the Philippines, the billion dollar livestreaming industry in China, meme culture in India, women in North Korea’s army, political instability in DR Congo, and the spread of propaganda and misinformation in Burundi.

    She regularly appears on BBC News TV, the World Service and Radio 4.

    Prior to joining the BBC, she spent extensive time working in the Great Lakes in Africa.”


    BBC, how about conducting an in depth investigation of the treatment of Jews held in Arab countries?


    • BRISSLES says:

      Megha Mohan ? sure its not Meghan Markel ?


      • Deborah says:

        I thought it was the Duchess for a moment and thought ‘that gal gets everywhere’. Probably had some other thoughts as well but they weren’t very polite.


  9. Roland Deschain says:

    Would it be racist or homophobic to laugh?

    BAME LGBT people also said they were touched and harassed by other pride-goers, with one person justifying their actions by saying “I love black men”.

    Oh, the inhumanity!


    • tarien says:

      Perhaps us of the older generation should give this reminder to the youger generation:-
      Senior Citizens are constantly beign criticised for every conceivable deficiency of the modern world, real or imaginary. We know we take responsibility for all we have done and do not blame others.
      HOWEVER, upon reflection, we would like to point out that it was NOT the senior citizens who took:
      The melody out of music,
      The pride out of appearance,
      The courtesy out of driving,
      The romance out of love,
      The commitment out of marriage,
      The responsibility out of parenthood,
      The togetherness out of family,
      The learning out of education,
      The service out patriotism,
      The Golden Ruel from rulers,
      The nativity scene out of cities,
      The civility out of behaviour,
      The refinement out of language,
      The dedication out of employment,
      The prudence out of spending,
      The ambition out of achievement or God out of government and school.
      And we certainly are NOT the ones who eliminated patience and tolerance for personal relationships and interactions with others.
      We most certainly understand the meaning of patriotism, and remember those who fought so bravely and died for our country in both world wars.


      • SPC says:

        Well said and well thought through – I’m sure a lot of us are irritated by modern values but sometimes can’t find the words to explain why. You just did that for us.


      • BRISSLES says:

        Tarien, excellently thought out, and if I may, will borrow it to forward to friends. It would make a wonderful ‘verse’ on 60+ greetings cards !


      • Fiat Lux says:

        I am not one of those people who thinks the youth of today have it much harder than their parents , my dad was 11 when rationing ended and grew up in the east end of Glasgow sharing a toilet with every other family in his close however ………
        In the 21st century the older generation who are in their 60’s and 70’s are exactly the people who are responsible all the things you listed. The young angry students and militant feminists who wanted to tear down the system and smash the patriarchy. Tony Blair aged 66, Peter Tatchell 67, Germaine Greer 80, Richard Branson 69 for example. The first generation baby boomers are the people have had control of the government, culture and financial policies of the western world for the last 30 years and have brought us to this point.

        Dons hard hat and cowers under the desk.


        • BRISSLES says:

          Ok Fiat, I’ll just pick one to take issue with…..

          This 70 year old and 99% of my generation is not responsible for taking “The Civility Out Of Behaviour”. Our parents raised us to say please and thank you, were taught to behave ourselves in company, were taught right from wrong, learned table manners, we respected our teachers and those in authority, and certainly would not use foul language in their presence – even men back then didn’t swear in front of a woman.

          So, can you argue with any of that ? because as a result of that upbringing, those that are 60+ have all turned out to be pretty decent people. I’m not including any of those in power who actually have brought shame to the baby boomer generation ie Corbyn and McDonnell, but every generation have their pigs in poke !


    • vesnadog says:



      “BAME LGBT people also said they were touched and harassed by other pride-goers”,

      Manchester pride.

      most people know what “touched” means and its nothing about one’s fleshings being touched.

      “”Yes, there were a lot of people and a lot of activities, but everywhere I went it just felt like eyes were on me. I felt visible for the wrong reasons.”

      Manchester pride.


    • Deborah says:

      And if somebody had said ‘I love white men’ they would have been in terrible trouble.


    • JamesArthur says:

      Funny didn’t hear these complaints at the Notting Hill carnival where Black guys could grab any white girl they wanted..


  10. Cassandra says:

    The BBC is treating the Prince Andrew story with kid gloves this morning…



  11. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News now:

    “”Government to ask Queen to suspend Parliament””

    Laura Kuensberg:

    The idea of shutting down Parliament – known as prorogation – has caused controversy, with critics saying it would stop MPs being able to play their DEMOCRATIC part in the Brexit process.


    Ha!! Well done Boris!!


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      In times of War, modifying or suspending parliamentary democracy may unfortunately be necessary. And we are at War: nearly 500 MPs, backed by the media, academia, the judicial system, unelected EU officials plus large numbers of multinational corporations and foreign billionaires, are waging war on Britain.


    • Right Angle says:

      Oh, you got it from BBC Online News. Very wise!

      It would be quite advisable not to tune in to the BBC now — your TV may melt down!

      As for Sky News, it was presumably the very anti-Brexit Beth Rigby who interviewed Boris Johnson and said something about “your critics” (be honest, Beth, you are with the critics) calling suspending Parliament an “insult to democracy”. Pah!

      Btw, perhaps I should admit I did switch to BBC, just to confirm my suspicions, you know. And guess what, their reporter was in such a state she couldn’t even get the location of the lady she was interviewing correct. She guessed, “Edinburgh”, and got the reply, “Aberdeen, actually”. (Or it could have been the other way round — I didn’t really register as I was fumbling for the off switch).

      Get your popcorn ready!


  12. StewGreen says:

    Boris has just pulled an anti-Brexit-blocking move
    by allowing parliament to open for 1 week and then closing it for 5 weeks until October 14th


    • smoogie7 says:

      About time to I think.

      Might be a lot of hysteria from remainers but I am sure that the BBC will give us balanced coverage about how this is a democratic process rather than being a dictatorship as their favorites would call it


      • JamesArthur says:

        I just hope it achieves what we want – but it was worth it to see the look on one of my Remainer patients this morning…and she is moderate and open to discussion and admitted she lives in a bubble and never hears the other view – well she did this morning…and still my patient..


        • smoogie7 says:

          The meltdown is really good to watch.

          Just a sneak peek of what would happen if the UK does leave with no deal on 31.10.19


  13. StewGreen says:

    Testing the BBC version of Alexa which does regional accents like Yorkshire ..with built in narrative control

    Me “Eh-up Auntie-Beebie .. what’s the weather forecast for the Remain march today in Manchester ? ”
    Auntie-Beebie “The weather will be fine and sunny”

    Me “Eh-up Auntie-Beebie .. what’s the weather forecast for the Free Tommy march today in Manchester ? ”
    Auntie-Beebie “The weather will be stormy and rainy”

    Me “Eh-up Auntie-Beebie tell me about Proud to be British”
    Auntie-Beebie “Here are some pictures of Manchester Pride


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Shortly followed by:
      Me “Eh-up Auntie Beebie, I didn’t really want pictures of a Pride event”
      Auntie-Beebie “You have committed a homophobic Hate Crime. Your IP details have been logged and are being cross-checked with your internet service provider. You will shortly receive a visit from armed officers of Manchester Greater Police.”


    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – whilst testing the BBC voice thingy have you tried saying

      ‘ give me a Pro Brexit BBC programme since 2016?’

      And had the reply ‘I can’t find anything like that Stew”.


  14. smoogie7 says:

    BBC already at it. Watching through their heavily biased website and they have someone from the SNP on. What a better way to sway the public than to get someone from a party that only represent one area of the country?


  15. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    On radio bbc Newcastle this morning when the news of proroguing Parliament was breaking they had 2 people on to interview.

    The first, a remainer university teacher(?) who was outraged against this affront to parliamentary democracy.
    The second, a labour remainer mp who was outraged at this affront to parliamentary democracy.

    Both given uninterrupted time to tell us how bad this was and how it was against ‘parliamentary’ democracy.
    They couldn’t say “democracy” because the majority voted out. It’s just because most of the MPs want to be ruled by Brussels so the majority IN PARLIAMENT ONLY is to remain.
    That’s the difference between democracy (17.4 million votes to leave) and parliamentary democracy (fewer than 500 who want to stay under eu rule)

    They came up with the usual “nobody voted for…” and the “ ….. wasn’t on the referendum”. You all know their usual ‘arguments.
    They are outraged at this closing of Parliament yet are perfectly happy with the remainer Bercow playing fast and loose with all parliamentary procedures.

    All the remain stream media have been going completely over the top since Boris took over from remainer May. It’s embarrasing how biased they all are.
    Where is the one MSM broadcaster that sees what 17.4 million of us (probably many more now) see, all the positives of being free of this lumbering bloc.
    I’m so sick of the constant whingeing from the remainers with the MSM all pushing their remain agenda, led by the bbc.


    • smoogie7 says:

      Was it Newcastle or Sunderland that was the first area to declare a leave vote much to the dismay of the BBC?


      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Yet our 3 MPs are all remainers…………at the moment.
        Next election I hope they will be replaced by MPs who respect the vote of the people.

        By the way, bbc radio Newcastle serves the NE area including Sunderland and Durham.


        • smoogie7 says:

          Newcastle or Sunderland would be the first areas to declare a Brexit Party MP in the next GE. The look of fear on the BBC and Labour’s faces would be epic


  16. StewGreen says:

    I see that this year on Twitter a lot of Indians have been calling the BBC out.


  17. BRISSLES says:

    Just listened to Lewis Goodall on Sky, and tbh he has explained it all very articulately without bias. It seems that Boris has played a blinder with the timings worked out to his advantage !


  18. johndba says:

    Bbc in full meltdown delicious to watch


    • NameNotNumber says:

      LBC, JO’B Stoked all over the pitch by ‘BOB’. Delicious to listen to.


  19. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC TV News 10.20 am

    Anna Soubry with smudged eye make-up was interviewed for at least ten minutes.

    She ranted non-stop about the affront to Democracy by Boris and how Leavers didn’t vote for No Deal and that Boris was abusing our Queen and that there are secret plans that she knows about to stop Brexit but can’t talk about now…(hic)… as she fumbled for her glass.

    Deep joy.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The picture of her and the other 5 traitor party leaders meeting to conspire yesterday was something . Featured strongly on twitter .

      From my calculation she is in a Party of one – so I suppose it can still split between drunk and sober .. I think she’s not well ….


    • smoogie7 says:

      I bet that she misses Theresa May now. They had an easier ride while May was in power but since Johnson has taken stage they have been falling all over themselves.

      Soubry will be even more teary when she loses her seat to either a new Conservative or Brexit Party candidate


      • JamesArthur says:

        We can only hope – i will have my own bye bye Soubry party for that


        • smoogie7 says:

          I wonder how she even sleeps at night. Every time I see her it looks like she has not slept since before the 2016 referendum


  20. StewGreen says:

    “fact check” = an ambush-naming word
    used to mislabel PR operations which focus on smearing political opposition to metro-liberal agendas eg Trump or Boris
    ..but which rarely ever run a check on claims FROM lefty or metroliberal sources

    eg https://www.factcheck.org or fullfact.org or BBC Reality Check [email protected] from C4 News
    I’m open to anyone proving me wrong , but it certainly looks like that from their Twitter output.


    • StewGreen says:

      An example of agendas they choose


  21. vlad says:

    “Killing of ‘mum carrying her child’ shocks Sweden”

    The gruesome murder shocks Sweden… but fails to shock al beeb apparently, who don’t even mention it on their webshite.

    It is an important story, important enough to be discussed by the Swedish PM and senior ministers, and much of the press. But not important enough for al beeb.

    Even the pusillanimous Swedish police have said it was related to criminal gangs. The gangs in Malmo are immigrants. Oh, I see.



  22. Celtic_Mist says:

    Brexit is symbolic in the long struggle between autocratic socialism and democratic nationalism which will have global consequences.


  23. Fedup2 says:

    The overall Project Fear BBC line seems to be that the current government is doing everything to prepare for a general election –
    Instead they are doing the things Mrs May should have been doing if she hadn’t spent her time lieing about “Brexit means Brexit “ .

    The BBC is obviously desperate for a General Election so that it’s future can be secured through the Corbyn McDonnell Money Tree.it must know that its’ conduct in the last three years will attract attention once the dust is settled over Brexit ( please ).

    On that – I’ve been to the States a good few times and eaten their chicken – I think I prefer their version to the stuff here which has plenty of anti biotics to flavour it . What a distraction that is to trading with the USA…

    Meanwhile the Invisible Party – namely “the Brexit Party “ is studiously ignored despite having 29 MEPs – for the BBC the EU matters when it wants it too.


  24. Dover Sentry says:

    Comment on Guido Fawkes:-

    To paraphrase Bomber Harris

    “The Remainers entered this Parliament under the rather childish delusion that they were going to use Parliamentary procedures to stop everyone else, and nobody was going to use Parliamentary procedures to stop them. At Westminster they put their rather naive theory into operation. They sowed the wind, and now they are going to reap the whirlwind.”


  25. smoogie7 says:

    Laura Kuenssberg: PM’s suspension move decisive and intensely risky

    ”This has been an extraordinarily long Parliamentary session, and governments have the right to shut up shop and return to announce their proposals in a new one with all the golden carriages, fancy Westminster costumes, banging of doors and splendour that goes with it.

    But that new timetable means Parliament will be suspended for longer than had been expected – likely now to be prorogued, to use the technical term, around 10 September, instead of going into recess on 14 September ahead of conference season.

    It’s only a matter of days. But those are days that might matter enormously, because the crucial and controversial political side effect is that MPs will have less time to try to change the law to stop Boris Johnson taking the UK out of the EU if he can’t agree a new deal with Brussels by the end of October.”


    ”This has been a terrible long parliamentary session as yet no one has yet stopped Brexit. Now our faithful MPs who are doing everything that they can to stop this Brexit will have less time to do anything about it.

    Here at the BBC this is bad news as we do not wish for the UK to leave without a deal as aside from the mass starvation that we expect everyone to face, we will no longer get as much finding that puts our BBC employees at risk. We do not like being proven wrong and it frustrates us that our scaremongering towards the public no longer works.”


  26. StewGreen says:

    R4 Agendas today
    9am Music show with Roderick Williams (happens to be mixed race)
    9:30 prog recorded at hippy festival
    9:45am Book of the week : poet Lemn Sissay
    10am Women’s Hour
    10:45 Daily Drama : The Country Girls , 10 episodes
    11:30am All Those Women
    12:15pm Classic E-cars…. is one item
    2:15pm Drama “they had planned to conceive a child, but Layla and Paris, both mixed-race


  27. Beltane says:

    There’s much to be pessimistic about but luckily all the moves Boris makes are not on that long list. And although it might be cynical to suggest that all his plans are based on nullifying the Brexit Party – just as Cameron’s referendum was calculated to nullify UKIP – that would be both cynical and pessimistic. But luckily, we don’t think that way. Do we?


    • smoogie7 says:

      Well the Brexit Party would have no existed had we actually left the EU in March. Farage had warned about the party with the intention of standing in the EU election which he ultimately won. The Brexit Party was in some ways a protest vote were warning shots had been fired from Tory and Labour leave voters and a few moving from UKIP with the hope of the new party getting more ground.

      A lot of those warning shots hit May and thus she resigned. Johnson now has the chance to avoid any more shots but the guns are there ready, just in case.

      As for Corbyn he has had many more shots hit him yet he refuses to go down. Quite pathetic really


  28. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    Have your sick-bucket ready if you’re going to watch the bBBC news today.
    Non-stop remoaners, ‘crash-out’, Soubry, Sturgeon, Swinson … uuurrrggghhh!


  29. Doobster78 says:

    Bercow whinging !!! LOL. Have a taste of your own medicine sonny jim !! Well done Boris , well done indeed.

    The government has asked the Queen to suspend Parliament just days after MPs return to work in September – and only a few weeks before the Brexit deadline.

    Boris Johnson said a Queen’s Speech would take place after the suspension, on 14 October, to outline his “very exciting agenda”.
    But it means the time MPs have to pass laws to stop a no-deal Brexit on 31 October would be cut.

    House of Commons Speaker John Bercow said it was a “constitutional outrage”.

    The speaker, who does not traditionally comment on political announcements, continued: “However it is dressed up, it is blindingly obvious that the purpose of [suspending Parliament] now would be to stop [MPs] debating Brexit and performing its duty in shaping a course for the country.”

    It would be “an offence against the democratic process and the rights of Parliamentarians as the people’s elected representatives”, he added.

    Oh and the other 2 plebs …… Grieve and Hammond … full on MELTDOWN…. what a great day !!!

    ‘Utterly scandalous’
    Mr Grieve – a former attorney general – told BBC Radio 5 Live: “If the prime minister persists with this and doesn’t back off, then I think the chances are that his administration will collapse.

    “There is plenty of time to do that if necessary [and] I will certainly vote to bring down a Conservative government that persists in a course of action which is so unconstitutional.”

    Former Tory chancellor Philip Hammond called it “profoundly undemocratic”


  30. Roland Deschain says:

    Okay, time for an experiment. I’m going on the BBC Politics Twitter feed and will post every tweet since Boris’s announcement where a politician or similar is quoted.

    Good start.


    All the views from the parties that matter.

    The BBC certainly thinks so.

    Eeyore speaks.

    Said the impartial-as-the-BBC Speaker.

    Spoken like an FBPE.

    You can taste the tears.

    Not even the BBC could have missed quoting the PM, though probably someone will find something to be offended over.

    I make that 2 pro Brexit, 6 anti and one neutral. About as expected then.

    Edit: one further entry since I posted:

    Still a long way to go to redress the balance.


    • Dover Sentry says:

      Excellent post!


    • Fedup2 says:

      I don’t know about others but the practice of repeating streams of tweets on this site is making reading it more difficult .

      It would be better is people just stated their opinion . But that’s me .

      As for what Boris is proposing . I’m guessing the Queen must have known the formal request was coming so that she would not be in an embarrassing position to say ‘ no’ if that is her view .
      It would be good if we could evidence the attitude of the BBC MSM in such dramatic circumstances.


      • Roland Deschain says:

        The purpose of the stream of Tweets is to demonstrate the BBC’s Bercow-like impartiality. I’m not sure how else one could list this, unless Twitter bias is off limits here. Personally, I find the BBC’s Twitter bias to be most enlightening as they tend to let their guard down.

        As for the Queen, I can’t imagine this wasn’t discussed and agreed beforehand so as to do it in a manner that keeps her out of the politics. There is a Tweet from the BBC conceding that she has no option but to comply here, but in the spirit of cooperation I shan’t post it. 😬


      • JimS says:

        “I don’t know about others but the practice of repeating streams of tweets on this site is making reading it more difficult .”

        Hear! Hear!

        They are like those work-related emails which chain every response as they get passed on, (I call them Roman scrolls). It isn’t at all clear what is being asked and who should be doing it.

        Twitter source material is often hard to decode. If Jacob Rees-Mogg, (heaven forbid!) tweeted “Boris!” presumably he would mean something different than if Jess Phillips tweeted “Boris!”. If Mark Eaton re-tweeted JR-M would that be approval or sarcasm? What if he re-tweeted JP?

        This site gives the voiceless the chance to say what they think, please don’t waste it by humouring Lammy et al!


      • StewGreen says:

        Yes I thought posting 10 tweets was tedious
        just to make the simple point that
        .. overall the BBC tries to construct output that is extremely biased towards Remain .
        ..bit predictable
        Only thing is they first posted a Brexit Party MP to cover themselves against complaints of bias
        7 of the 10 tweets were heavily against Brexit
        In a country of 60 million people the tweets got few likes


    • smoogie7 says:

      Corbyn has been rather slow today. The Eurosceptic who would likely agree with Brexit has been struggling to hold both sides together and thus finally came out with his response. ‘Undemocratic’ or something.

      Rich coming from the man who has tried to trip Johnson up since day one.


  31. StewGreen says:

    Classic line from Magid Madid
    “The big problem is those politicians don’t reflect the people they are supposed to represent”
    He’s on Vine on Radio2 doing his story about being chucked out of the European parliament building, cos he was a black guy in a T-shirt ..and they nevr asked him if he was an MEP
    It’s an olld story now but Vine is giving him a PR slot

    Magid has now just blamed Farage for spreading division
    … that is projection


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Wait. The problem is politicians not reflecting the people they represent, yet when Farage does just that he’s spreading hate?

      Lefty translation: “spreading hate” = “I don’t have a rational argument to counter that point”


      • Terminal Moraine says:

        Stew / Roland,

        The good side speak truth to power. The baddies sow division and speak to their base.

        It’s a moral thing. We wouldn’t understand


    • StewGreen says:

      They didn’t mention the context that the T-shirt had swearing on.
      Does him turning up in parliament in a sweary T-shirt reflect the #SHEFFIELD people he is supposed to represent ?

      Follow the BBC link and you see they don’t use a photo of him in Brussels
      they instead use an older photo of him in Sheffield
      ..wonder why ? /sarc


  32. Terminal Moraine says:

    I’ve weaned myself off all BBC TV/Radio but dropped in just now to R5 to hear Shami Chakrabarti given plenty of time to call Boris’ move undemocratic, unconstitutional and “un-British”.

    No doubt Shami’s concerned about upholding the great traditions of this country like making a mockery of the voting system.

    Ah now Nihal’s on with stories of adoption and photos unearthed of a gay marriage in 1957 Philadelphia…


    • Cassandra says:

      I heard Shameless Shammi wittering on about Boris’ lack of honesty, decency and truth. The words felt dirty coming out of her mouth after her investigation into anti semitism, which found there was absolutely no evidence of it in The Labour Party.

      “Jeremy Corbyn announced her (Chakrabarti) as the only Labour appointment to the House of Lords in August 2016, which some Labour MPs said undermined the credibility of the anti semitism inquiry she had led.
      The Community Security Trust, which monitors anti semitism in Britain, said the move was “a shameless kick in the teeth for all who put hope in her now wholly compromised inquiry into Labour antisemitism”.
      Marie van der Zyl, vice-president of the Board of Deputies of British Jews, called it a “whitewash for peerages scandal.” When asked about the appointment, a spokesman for Corbyn said that Chakrabarti was “an ideal appointment to the Lords”.


      On 6 September 2016, Chakrabarti was created a life peer (despite only being a member of The Labour Party for five months) as Baroness Chakrabarti, of Kennington in the London Borough of Lambeth.


  33. StewGreen says:

    Classic comedy


  34. Backlash says:

    Absolutely delicious watching the [email protected] at the bbc pooping themselves over Boris and his latest attempt to get us out of the accursed eu…3 days left of my license!!!


  35. Sluff says:

    Watching the biased (and how) BBC 1 1 pm news, Mrs S is even more apoplectic than me.

    A total travesty of impartiality. The decision to prorogue parliament prompts…..

    Pro Brexit- 15 seconds from Peter Bone
    Project fear, doom and hloom, anti Brexit, 15 minutes and counting from everyone the smarmy BBC can dredge up.

    We even had, with no irony, coverage of Anna Soubry talking about democracy !!!!!! Hahahahahaha.

    And of course the ‘opposed to leaving without a deal’ described people are never, absolutely never challenged for the ‘opposed to leaving full stop’ crowd they really are.

    Totally appalling. But having done my research, the off switch was quite a blessing.


  36. JamesG says:

    Isn’t it wonderful seeing the entire liberal elite going into massive meltdown over Boris’s decision today to respect the referendum result.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Caught Lady Brooke on the World at One talking to the excellent John Redwood . The BBC people sound really …. discombobulated…

      Where’s my pop corn



  37. Philip_2 says:

    The BBC… (B)eelzebub’s (B)roadcasting (C)orporation
    For those unfamiliar with this figure, in the Old Testament Beelzebub (or, more properly, Baalzebub) was the name of the Philistine god associated with the city of Ekron in southwestern Canaan.   Other names attributed to him were dung god, prince of devils, and lord of the flies (probably because of the association with dung).   By the time of Christ, the name had become explicitly associated with Satan, the prince of demons.  It may be remembered that the Pharisees famously accused Jesus of casting out demons in the name of Beelzebub (Mt 10:25; Lk 11:14-28), a charge categorically denied by Jesus, who pointed out the logical absurdity of anyone attempting to cast our devils by invoking the name of the head devil waging an unremitting battle to seize control. 
So Beelzebub, the father of lies, is the enemy of Christ.  Which brings us to the BBC
Last week, in its supposedly flagship (one and only) Christian programme, Songs of Praise, the BBC saw fit to include a same sex marriage ceremony between two men, who were ‘married’ in Rutherglen United Reformed Church near Glasgow.    This occurred regardless of the fact the Bible prohibits any and all sex outside marriage, laid down as between one man and one woman for life, for their mutual support and encouragement, and for the bringing up of any children that may result from their union. Biblical doctrine could not be clearer – all sex outside marriage is prohibited – as are non-heterosexual marriage services by all mainstream denominations, including the Church of England, the Church of Wales, and the Roman Catholic and Orthodox Churches.  In fact, it is no exaggeration to say that worldwide traditional believers are united in condemnation of this demonically inspired push to recast Christian belief.

    Which says a lot about the BBC.   Because, in its wisdom and commitment to ‘diversity’, it has chosen to over-rule this core doctrine of Christianity in favour of what it clearly sees as a more acceptable form of liberal faith.   In response to howls of outrage from concerned Christians across the nation, it says self-righteously, ‘Songs of Praise tells the stories of Christians across all denominations in the UK and, in so doing, aims to reflect the balance of opinions on different issues.’    But only certain opinions, it appears.
The arrogance of such a stance, claiming the right to redefine what Christians are permitted to believe, is staggering.  Indeed, the conclusion is inescapable that in 21st century Britain the BBC has become no more than an ideological tool for promoting an agenda hostile to Christianity; and doing so deviously – not in open opposition, but by rewriting doctrine, so that it appears to conform to its agenda.   This is blatant social engineering at its worst, and goes far beyond the remit of the BBC as laid down in its Charter, renewed in December 2016. 

It is, in fact, increasingly clear that we are in an ideological war, with Christianity under unremitting and vicious attack. Beelzebub is taking control and is challenging the Christian heritage and values of our nation.  

    Please sign our new petition to the the Rt Hon Micky Morgan MP, Secretary of State for Culture, Media and Sport, calling for urgent enquiry into the Governance of the BBC, and for removal of those responsible for this agenda-driven abuse.

    Sign here: https://www.citizengo.org/en/173239-we-call-urgent-enquiry-governance-bbc?m=5&tcid=59721838&fb

    PLUS (over in the US) the UN are busy on the next phase… that the BBC will use next…

    If you have the energy support those in the US where the UN is trying to redefine the word ‘family’. The UN has a conference which we need to insist on the word ‘family’ is not dead yet. The aim to make abortion part of the ‘family’ of measures which the left advocate through the UN.
    The UN are busy at work on a ‘UN Civil Society Declaration’ that will destroy a pro-life, pro-family perspective. Make it difficult for our children to have a ‘family’ and be encouraged to have abortions instead.
    Sign here to support a US declaration to counter the UN “inclusivity” (non word) hypocrisy outlined above. Something the BBC are very well advanced on creating with its social engineering, here in the UK. Abolishment of the aspirations of ‘family’ are required to end ‘conservative’ values which they see as contradictory to Marxism.

    They (UN) want ‘western democracy’ to collapse and global marxism to take over. A bit like Corby’s ‘Universal’ governance to create more ‘equal’ chaos to create a new marxist order. The BBC chips away at our democracy, our conservatism, our ‘family values’, and call it progress, equality, diversity and sexuality a ‘choice’. The end result is Agenda 21, leading to a rapid depopulation of western nations which can then be imposed (by so called financial ‘aid’ to poorer nations to embrace ‘Climate change’ and adopt abortion) as a human right. Not for the right of the unborn (which is a Christian ethic). The BBC likes to make fun of families, conservatism and our our ideas of nationhood and family and democracy and love of patriotism and ritual. All countries have it, that is why they want to destroy the family. It another step in the ‘abolish family’ agenda. Sign to protest and support us in the US:


  38. StewGreen says:

    Green energy is about


  39. Deborah says:

    I used to like voices as I worked in the kitchen, audio Potter’s Wheel. The little item on growing cocoa, or art in stained glass, etc, etc. The stuff that meant I knew a little about everything.

    Now silence is golden. It is usually seconds before the off switch. This afternoons play involved a couple discussing having a baby. She wanted one, he didn’t. I remind you this was gleaned in seconds. Reasons for him to say ‘no’ was climate change (predictable) and they may be made redundant (her response was that if that was the case they could go on benefits). His final attempt at a reason not to have a child was ….the rise of the far Right. He could have said his concern that Corbyn could become Prime Minister or Macdonnell be in charge of the Treasury. He didn’t.

    I switched off and dreamed of Boris!


    • Fedup2 says:

      Looking at the R4 schedule for the afternoon play now is almost as near to comedy the BBC gets these days .
      Something multicultural involving an alleged refugee and something ‘ green ‘ .

      Nice to be distracted by some real bubble gum stuff today .


  40. dazzer says:

    Not BBC – but linked to all this woke nonsense.

    Have just seen an African ‘woman’ defecating in the street by the side of a main road in SE London. Stopped the car and shouted at her “You can’t sh=t in the street. This isn’t Africa.” To which she showed no shame, nothing. Just had animal eyes.

    As much as I tried, I could not get the image of a jungle savage and 2000 years of evolutionary difference from my mind. I was expecting her to pick up her pooh and throw it at me.


    • G says:

      Coming to a town or city near you soon…………….
      Pity the incident was not filmed and a copy sent to the Mayor of Londonistan.
      By the way, if dazzer had his registration taken and a complaint made to the thought police, he can look forward to being arrested for his ‘hate speech’……………..


      • dazzer says:

        “By the way, if dazzer had his registration taken and a complaint made to the thought police, he can look forward to being arrested for his ‘hate speech’……………..”

        I thought the same thing too as I drove away. I even heard sirens a few minutes up the road and though “Oh my god, here we go”. I took a few side roads and doubled back to see if there was a swarm of police surrounding the animal but there was nothing but her.

        I take it as a small victory. “The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.”


      • dazzer says:

        duplicate post


        • dazzer says:

          On my dear departed Mother’s soul, I saw it again. Still in SE London, east of Greenwich. This time an attractive 30s woman going to have a pee. She saw us outside my friends house and pulled her pants up and went back into her kitchen.

          My friend tells me the is a common sight in most of SE London. The council estates are no-go. Knife crime is insanely high, robberies, everything you can imagine as happening in these sink estates mostly populated by Africa immigrants. White people that live there have given up. They have either moved/forced away, or dropped any concept of community. The rest have joined the immigrants in the free-for-all and are as bad if not worse than the immigrants.

          Those videos on YouTube showing Paris slums and no-gos. I thought that was just sensationalism – but if any thing it is much much worse here.

          We could not wait to escape the place – it was hell on Earth.


        • dazzer says:

          double post


    • vesnadog says:


      I wonder why all those TV adds to fund UK charities are mainly to feed ever growing Muslim families usually having 6-8 children per family and by that help finance Islamic nations to grow?

      And why is it that the mothers of said skeleton children are usually seen to be fat or obese when watching said TV adds?

      So we can’t blame moms like the one you saw doing “things” on the streets of London.

      After all, they do need to expand their families and dispose of their waste on someones doorstep.


    • JamesG says:

      About a year ago I saw an African woman breastfeeding a baby in Euston station without any sort of covering whatsoever. Now I know that’s normal in Africa, but it isn’t normal in this country. But no-one was doing anything about it. The woman herself obviously didn’t realise there was anything wrong with it, because she was doing it as if it was the most normal thing in the world. The problem is not with her personally, but with the authorities in London who’ve completely given up trying to enforce British norms of behaviour.


  41. fakenewswatcher says:

    dazzer – look upon it as a learning experience, steep as the curve may be….


  42. StewGreen says:

    R4 4:30pm Smart Speakers and privacy implications
    … Amol leads the discussion

    would you allow a BBC listening device in your home ?
    so they can collect valuable consumer tracking data they say.


  43. StewGreen says:

    Hey Amol isn’t presenting
    so who will be the brown person on the show ?
    Ah presented by the FT’s Madhumita Murgia
    guest BBC’s @MukulDevichand


  44. StewGreen says:

    Weird story about the founder of NAPAC that fights for people abused in childhood
    He said “False allegations are pernicious and horrible but it is massively rare [for someone] to make these things up.”

    and then when the Mail produces a story of police being called on him in 2008 when he was 50
    … said ‘Ah well yeh I never mention that cos that person much younger than me, and a victim of sex abuse in childhood, lied about me forcing her to give me a BJ in 2008 cos we were all drunk and it was consensual’


  45. StewGreen says:

    London metro-bubble not having a clue about the actual world again.
    Hasn’t Wakefield’s finest done loads of shows
    ..and the thread lists other female travel presenters.


  46. taffman says:

    Any news on Al Beeb coming from Rotherham ?


  47. pugnazious says:

    Astounding and very, very, very sinister….


    Not long before it’s official that you can’t criticise Islam either….at present its merely quietly and unofficially enforced by police and institutions where you will be sacked, demonised or have your life ruined by the new Inquisition.


  48. StewGreen says:

    Today Twitter pushes this at me at the top of the “For You” section


  49. StewGreen says:

    The same Ofom thst thinks the incitement to violence lyrics of drill music are OK
    …. is cos of the colour of the skin of the performers ?