Midweek Open Thread 7 August 2019

Will there be a biased BBC silly season … ?

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  1. Lobster says:

    First again !!
    Someone will think it is a bit fishy ….

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    • taffman says:

      Lobster
      Well done !
      Or should I say boiled ?
      😉

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      • StewGreen says:

        Missed something ?
        Backlink : The last thread finished on page 3
        page 2

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Cracking effort again lobster – some might say you’re being shellfish ….and thank you stew – I thought I’d be missing out the midweek thread as activity reduced but there’s enough bias to go around and plenty of people seeing it . So thanks

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      • Up2snuff says:

        taffy, Lobbie is hot at the moment, scoring in the low and mid 60s, holing the 20 footers for birdies, reaching the par 5s regularly in two – the advantage of those huge arms.

        He may qualify for the Redder Cup.

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    • MartinW says:

      Do please stop this stupidity. Having to scroll through several “me, me, first” posts just wastes everyones time. Thank you.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Come on Martin , just a tiny bit of free ‘ fun ‘ for such a grim subject – especially when the trolls are thankfully under their rocks – ( but not bumping into the esteemed lobster ) .

        But each to his own annoyance …

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      • Up2snuff says:

        MW, the clue was in Fed’s header …

        … we’re only doing our best in response.

        🙂

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  2. taffman says:

    “Leo Varadkar: Post-Brexit vote on Irish unity not the way forward”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-49247754
    In the interest of The Republic of Ireland, Leo Veradkar should consider holding a referendum on whether or not his country should leave the EU and join their biggest customer – Great Britain.
    Simples

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  3. taffman says:

    Gwynedd bus company introduces youths limit after driver ‘spat at’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49247907
    And the Welsh Assembly wants to ban smacking ?
    You could not make it up.

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    • G says:

      Taff,
      “spat at”. This is a favourite act for the RoP. On my very first flight into Saudi, we had a short stop at Jeddah. Time enough to grab a tea/coffee. It was then I witnessed a Yank being physically kicked around the cafeteria area. The Yank did not defend himself or respond. I have no idea what that was all about but, no one assisted. No one intervened. When the Saudi had finished, (or become bored – arabs have a low boredom threshold), he spat at the Yank.
      All, ‘part and parcel’ of living alongside savages I guess.

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  4. taffman says:

    Brexit: ‘Radical change is needed for UK to survive’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-49221570
    Yes , get rid of the Welsh Assembly and spend the money saved on Health and Education.

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  5. vlad says:

    “Texas police apologise for horseback officers leading black man by rope”
    Al beeb doing what they love, stirring up race hate.
    Next time a black man shoots a white policeman (probably in about 5 minutes) will the beeb take the blame for having incited hatred against the police?
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49253691

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    • MartinW says:

      To me that image (and indeed the action) was truly shocking. Of course, I don’t know the full background, but it seemed to show the two cops had neither an ounce of historical perspective nor the common sense to realise how their action would be perceived. It was like an image from the past Democrat Deep South. [btw, I don’t speak as a wishy-washy liberal, but from the other end of the political spectrum] .

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Comedian not on the BBC
    ‘Climate Change Trans Counselling’ by Will Franken

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, thanks for putting that up. That was a brilliant set by Franken.

      At 18m 30s approx, I thought he was going to do a ‘Dr Strangelove’ segment but no.

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  7. JamesG says:

    Whenever an alleged crime is committed and the person arrested isn’t publicly named as a “white person” we always know what it means. We’ve had a few cases like that recently. Of course, whenever a white person is arrested, the media and the police always shout it from the rooftops. It’s almost funny how they don’t realise that not naming a suspect as “white” means that we all know what type of person has been arrested.

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  8. StewGreen says:

    British Muslims should not feel forced to assimilate, says top counter terrorism officer’ | via @telegraph
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/06/british-muslims-should-not-forced-assimilate-says-senior-counter/

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    • Not Gwent says:

      Yes I wondered how long this would take? Does the argument work in reverse; do non adherents not have to assimilate?

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    • Oldspeaker says:

      Regardless of his background Mr Basu is still a member of the wrong gender, that makes his position a little precarious. He may just be saying what he thinks will best see him to pension.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      I agree they should be allowed to practice in open BUT not to disobey the laws of the UK, to be subject to the same criticism as everyone else, to be arrested for breaking the law just like everyone else, to not cry Islamophobia everytime somebody does something they don’t like.
      In short , obey and agree to the laws of the land and not to have them changed for them – if you don’t like it well there are plenty of muslim countries

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    • StewGreen says:

      ‘assimilate’ and ‘ integrate’ are different words
      British Muslims should not be FORCED to ‘assimilate’
      ..but if immigrants don’t integrate then there will be trouble

      The problem is libmob want it the other way around
      that the British native population should integrate into foreign customs.

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    • Dystopian says:

      “He also said more needed to be done to eradicate poverty, improve education and increase social mobility if community cohesion was to be improved.”

      Yes, I heard Mathew (Lefty) Wright talking about this on Talk Radio. Apparently, if we make the followers of Islam feel more welcome and give them more concessions, they will not feel the need to become radicalised.
      (However, they will still go to mosque and will still follow the teachings of the Quran to the letter.)
      These liberal types really don’t get it do they.
      They think their motivation comes from their desire to be more like us? Really?
      Idiots.

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  9. Annunaki says:

    British muslims should be given a remote island off the Scottish coast then so we do not have to suffer a middle east in our cities

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  10. digg says:

    BBC report Ofcom survey shows live TV viewing plummeting fast. It seems it’s all down to streaming services growth and not the fever-pitch anti-UK, anti-indigenous woke content and views they spew out non-stop.

    I for one do not at all accept that the BBC “reflects our way of life”, the key a reason Ofcom gave for retaining the services.

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    • Guest Who says:

      OFCOM

      UK becomes a nation of streamers

      UK becomes a nation of streamers… but traditional broadcast TV leads the way on UK content.

      ****

      Content so leading… (whispers, ‘in the U.K.), few are watching it.

      Envy of the world.

      Glad Botney’s pension is headed to £7,000,000 nicely.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Too true digg. The BBC reflects what they want our way of life to become about ten to twenty years into the future. They have been successfully doing this for the past several decades and have been a major force in ensuring the great replacement project has gone smoothly so far. This organisation has done more damage to our country than any other. Getting rid of it is a critical step towards halting the replacement project, retaining our culturevand our values which are fast disappearing.

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  11. Doobster78 says:

    Bless him. Twitter really isn’t for David !!!!

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  12. andyjsnape says:

    Didn’t think the bbc did comedy anymore, clearly i’m wrong..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49255891/david-lammy-mp-i-won-t-let-the-bullies-win

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Irony alert. Bbc moaning emole.

    ***

    Boardmasters music festival cancelled

    There’s disappointment for fans of the Wu-Tang Clan, Florence + The Machine and Foals with the news that this weekend’s Boardmasters festival has been called off because of warnings about the weather. Tens of thousands of fans were expected to gather in Newquay, Cornwall, for the annual celebration of live music and surf culture. But organisers say they pulled the plug after talks with police and independent safety advisers. A Met Office yellow weather warning is in place for much of England and Wales on Friday and Saturday .
    ***
    Greta set off from Europe West, presumably around this coastline, a few days ago. Hope fair winds and calm seas will accompany the voyage.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Bumper crop today.

      ***
      The real cost of buying cheap clothes

      A quick trawl around the high street reveals dresses aplenty for under a tenner, and you can get a bikini for as little as £1. Globalisation means things can be produced in far-off lands at low cost, meaning more choice and lower prices. But how is that even possible? And what of the environmental cost of our shopping habits?

      The relationship between shopper and fashion industry may have become dysfunctional. A BBC Radio 4 investigation for the Today programme took us from Spain to Ethiopia as we examined whether the planet, and some of its poorest inhabitants, are footing the bill for our unquenchable thirst for fashion – and how we should tackle that.

      Read full analysis >

      Dharshini David

      ***
      Top ‘analysis’, Darshini who, one is sure, looks fetching in a bikini, as do the rest of the W1A gels. Plus some of the ladies.

      As to the planetary cost of this ‘investigation’…. Greta do like a cheap T-shirt. Apparently.

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    • vesnadog says:

      G,

      “Hope fair winds and calm seas will accompany the voyage.”

      But watch out for those Flying [Michael] Fish!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Sad news for the drug dealing industry and local funeral directors .,.

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  14. Thoughtful says:

    Disgraceful reporting by the BBC over a fake Ugandan Asylum seeker who has been returned to Britain after a crazed leftist judge claimed she hadn’t had enough time to put her case – in other words the greedy weasels who are his colleagues haven’t got their snouts in the trough.

    The BBC have shouted from the rooftops that this woman claimed to be homosexual and yet when immigration officers raided her home they found her in bed with a man ! Of course the incriminating evidence which proves she NOT a lesbian at all! They conveniently failed to mention this.

    Nor did they mention since her return that the woman has been living in Uganda for 6 years and no harm what so ever has come to her. To make a sucessful claim the claimant has to demonstrate a well founded fear of persecution – the fact she’s lived there for 6 years proves she is NOT in a well founded fear of persecution.

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  15. Cassandra says:

    David Lammy MP: ‘I won’t let the bullies win’

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-politics-49255891/david-lammy-mp-i-won-t-let-the-bullies-win

    Dead easy to spot bullies, isn’t it Lammy?

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Which of Lammy’s ancestors died “fighting this shit”?

      Isn’t Lammy a Nigerian? Nigeria was a pretty peaceful and well run part of the British Empire. As soon as it was given independence, it dissolved into the Biafran war. Perhaps that is the fighting Lammy is referring to, in which one set of Africans tries to destroy another set.

      That may be it. He does get a bit confused about facts, as his hilarious Mastermind appearance showed. Luckily for him, the good people of Tottenham elect him for his skin colour, not his intellect.

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    • Helen Richardson says:

      Like many dim people, he thinks that overstatement presents his case more effectively, not realising that each new outburst must be stronger than the last.

      A few well chosen words from someone like Jacob Rees-Mogg can find their target in a way that Lammy will never understand.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Helen
        It should also be realised that Lammy operates in a very competitive part of the race industry with lots of eager young Wimmin of colour attacking whitee via the BBC and Guardian
        At least he can console himself with a promise of sticking his fat backside on the cushions of the Upper House before too long . He ll squeeze in next to Lady Abbot of numpty.

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  16. andyjsnape says:

    A step in the right direction..
    Traditional TV viewing holds off streaming, Ofcom reveals

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49248030

    the tele tax will have its day. Who to tax now? after the over 75’s

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Yeah right! You think the cowardly incompetent Tories would dare do that? They’re frightened to death of their own shadow, they know the BBC pension fund is in defeceit and instead of forcing the corporation to fund it NOW. The incomptent assholes just let them weaponise it against privitisation.

      Then there’s the issue of the world service which the loons regard as something of a jewel in an old colonial crown, and which they don’t want to lose.

      The Tories are never ever going to end the TV Tax so stop dreaming about it, and vote for someone who will.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Andy
      I worry that if the TV tax is abolished and the BBC is funded from the money tree of direct taxation – which means I -we d all be paying for it again without being about to take any action at all apart from avoiding it .

      Subscription has to be the way forward but it might take a few more years for ‘late adopters’ – like me – who recently signed to amazon – to come to terms with direct pay TV –

      I didn’t sign to amazon just for the TV though – other features were value for money to me ….

      I do enjoy the desperation of the BBB when it produces the occasional succeed – the good old police dramas like bodyguard and line of duty – but they always frog their few successes to death -as see in the “eve’ thing and the awful second series of ‘fleabag’….
      As for the other stuff ‘period ‘ drama – it’s good if you like playing ‘spot the blacky ‘ in 18th century England ( yeah yeah there were 10 ) but otherwise forget them .

      So if the BBC went subscription I don’t know what take up would be like if it carried on as a self serving biased monster it is now .

      Ofcom will always give the state broadcasters a free pass as it’s an incestuous relationship ….

      Boris can put it on his second term wish list but not is a manifesto of lies ….

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      • taffman says:

        I don’t like reading certain newspapers so I don’t buy them.
        I don’t like what I see on certain TV Stations but I am forced by law to pay for them.
        Perhaps Boris can tell us why ?

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      • andyjsnape says:

        Hi Fed

        I’ve Amazon prime for the same reasons, TV also the extras

        Subscription is the way forward, or taxing everyone would be like the poll tax again

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    • The WestWyvern says:

      Cancel your tele tax, legally as I have done.

      Off to B&Q at lunchtime to purchase a blanking plate to cover the hole in the wall where the aerial cable used to go.

      Spent a pleasant hour last night watching a YouTube video about the history of the Queen Mary Ocean liner.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    Given the bbc’s History of ignoring stories that do not fit the bbc narrative, I am going with ‘unlikely’.

    https://bbcwatch.org/2019/08/07/will-bbc-audiences-be-told-this-gaza-healthcare-story/

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  18. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    One man who donated his mother’s body for Alzheimer’s research learned it was used to test explosives.

    ***

    And Mrs. Choudary was livid when she found out.

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  19. Thoughtful says:

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  20. taffman says:

    “Zimbabwe: A third of population faces food crisis, says UN”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-49259678
    Once the ‘breadbasket of Africa’ , now all the farmers are dead or gone?
    I wonder why?

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    • Oldspeaker says:

      Self censored a comment in poor taste.

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    • The WestWyvern says:

      Self inflicted I’m afraid by the local population, actively encouraged by their leaders.

      No sympathy.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      The black population of Southetn Rhodesia were once the wealthiest and best educated in Africa living in a peaceful well ordered society where they were safe and secure . of course they were ruled by the white settlers and had been for a hundred years or more. It certainly wasn’t a democracy but crucially Africans were making steady progress in acquiring the skills to run a modern economy and country, whilst enjoying ever increasing prosperity. Whether full equality would ever have been reached is unknown. Then came African self rule, corruption , tribal politics and dictatorship , within twenty years everything had been thrown away.
      South Africa is following exactly the same trajectory.

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      • The WestWyvern says:

        I spent time in SA, an ex-girlfriends brother lived in Kempton Park, JoBurg.
        A gardener would visit the property twice a week to cut grass, trim shrubs etc. I got talking to him one day, he was sheltering from a rainstorm in the shed whilst bemoaning the generally dry conditions that were preventing the vegetables from developing properly.
        I asked why the rain, pouring off the roof was not being captured in water butts and stored for future use.

        Ah he said, ‘but that is where Whitey is different, he thinks about the future, we just think about the here and now, why would we want to store water for use in the future, when it is raining now?

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      taffman- you may well wonder. On seeing your question, I wandered over to the South African press, to see how the attacks by black gangs on white farmers are going, as South Africa tries hard to replicate the Zimbabwean experience. (Here too, another breadbasket that will eventually become a begging bowl!)
      At the outset, you must realise that these attacks, although they look like violent ‘racism’, what with frequent torture of victims, etc. are not ‘racism’. That word is never used in the SA context, ever. Especially not by the MSM.
      As you can see from the US, if a white man is a perpetrator against people of colour – that’s ‘racism’. The word is used endlessly, for weeks. Not so if the victims are white.
      Strange, isn’t it? Maybe this term is not all it seems! Maybe it is merely a propaganda insult, used exclusively by ONE side in political conflict. And by the ‘media’, worldwide, who play along…
      I think it should also be unlinked from murder. Murder is always murder, regardless of colour. Adding ‘racism’ to politicize murder is not helpful.
      Anyway, the thousands of SA farmers and their families, who have been murdered since 1994 go virtually unmentioned in the press.
      Is it because of their race that they are not of interest? Doesn’t make a good story, because somehow it’s not ‘racism’?
      The hypocracy is breathtaking.
      I see ‘Doublethinker’ has made the same point in one, single sentence. I need to cut back!

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  21. andyjsnape says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-49258923

    Scary, the UN might be told.. and what will they do, not a lot

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Andy – the region is still a tinderbox, it seems. Late last night I listened to an hour or so as radio4 presented a look back to independence/partition in 1947 and the murderous conflict between Muslim and Hindu, people who had apparently been living peacefully together. It was a shocking eye-opener, or rather, ear opener.
      Now India and Pakistan are two nuclear-armed states, and you wonder whether the almost irrational hostility has survived over the last seventy years? Radio4 seemed to think it possibly had? I notice the term ‘ethnic cleansing’ being used by leaders-referring to the present day context, so perhaps they’re right?
      The UN has been unable to resolve, or even assist in resolving, the Kashmir issue for decades. Can’t see it doing anything useful now.

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      • JamesArthur says:

        Why don’t they just divide Kashmir? I am sure the BBC will find a way to blame GB

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        • Doublethinker says:

          Last time they tried to do that, well did it actually during partition, , at least a million died . Of course as others have mentioned on the site the need for partition was a direct result of Muslim intransigence.

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        • fakenewswatcher says:

          James – Listen carefully. It wouldn’t be the first time Britain gets the blame for all the killing, and not only by the bbc. On the subcontinent, they are apparently not responsible for their own behaviour (a strange phenomenon), it’s us up here wot dunnit, according to certain people in both – now 3 – nations involved.

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      • andyjsnape says:

        Hi Fake

        The UN, guess they could talk about it. or maybe send soldier in, who aren’t allowed to fire a shot

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  22. Sluff says:

    The radio alarm came on at 0720. What agenda would await me today?

    Mischal ‘useless’ Hussein was very sympathetically interviewing…..a Ugandan lesbian who has been denied UK asylum, even on appeal, and deported. But a UK judge has ruled that a comma was in the wrong place and that UK taxpayers had not contributed enough, so she is back in the country making a further asylum application. She wants to live openly as a lesbian, you see. Oh, and she now has a child. FFS.

    The next story was basically ‘white supremacist mass killers in the US being encouraged by Trump’

    The radio alarm went off at 0730, after the sports news.

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  23. JamesArthur says:

    BBC breakfast – no wonder people are turning off…3 idiots talking shite amongst themselves interspersed with anti Brexit anti Trump and fear mongering about food shortages and not being able to have a holiday after Oct 31st
    Does the BBC not realise we can get most fruit and vegetables from outside EU and we do…and we will still have holidays..it is a choice as to where you go and how much you want to pay..always has been….the truth is out there but not at BBC..

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    • The WestWyvern says:

      My local Asda yesterday evening (I walked there to offset my carbon footprint having driven the dirty diesel a couple of hundred miles to Brum and back at the weekend) Asparagus bunches, wrapped in clear plastic bags. Produce of PERU. That’s a 12hr flight. I know cos I’ve been.

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      • Deborah says:

        Really the British asparagus season is from April to end of June. I really object when I see asparagus from Peru during the British asparagus season.
        But I wonder if all these climate activists restrict their food intake to UK grown food – so save food miles and their carbon footprint. Would mean that they would have difficulties with citrus fruit and bananas and would be very limited on the amount of quinoa they could eat – and they can only fill up on potatoes if they don’t mind the carbs. But British beef and lamb is the best in the world.

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        • Pat..original says:

          @ Deborah… Agree. British grown strawberries and plums are the only ones worth buying. Imported ‘leave to ripen in the bowl’ produce just means you have to wait until they go soft – not the same thing. Sainsbury this morning still had plastic bags to put your purchases in – wait until ‘you know who’ finds out they have not gone over to the paper ones yet. I seem to remember that over use of paper affected the rainforests….

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  24. taffman says:

    “No-deal Brexit: ‘Big unanswered questions’ for UK music”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49239002
    How the devil did we manage before we joined the EU?
    Project fear Overdrive XXL.

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Is this not a good thing?

      We all know music died in 1990.

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    • Helen Richardson says:

      The LSO is visiting Hong Kong, mainland China and Vietnam in September. The LPO is just back from New York. American orchestras come here. What’s the problem?

      The problem, of course, is people stirring up trouble unnecessarily and being resistant to simplifying gravy-train bureaucracy. That’s the EU all over. The LSO toured America in 1912, narrowly missing crossing on the Titanic. If flying hasn’t made it easier, it’s because self serving civil servants and other bureaucrats are choosing to put up obstacles.

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  25. digg says:

    Brexit: no deal would harm UK security, senior officer warns…

    …Counter-terror chief raises ‘deep concerns’ as key crime-fighting tools will be lost

    It’s OK, someone tell him we won’t need them when the flow of drug runners, slavers and sex worker thugs from the Eastern end of the EU find it more difficult to get here will we?

    However Germany, France, Netherlands, Italy etc. will be able to use the spare capability as the scum will have to target them instead.

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    • G says:

      digg,
      “…Counter-terror chief raises ‘deep concerns’ as key crime-fighting tools will be lost”. Let’s prepare then?
      Aw! So that’s the reason the uk police have become so incompetent then – they’re simply running down their reaction to crime anticipating no further support from?…………..Well, no further support from? Don’t know. Anybody?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Skimming what this chap said – I was trying to find out what the exact nature of the ‘terrorist threat ‘ was – I think Islam got a passing mention .

        He wasn’t to bring in criminologists – well god help me – I’m a rarity – a right wing one . These criminologists will figure out why Muslims want to kill non Muslims or form gangs to rape white non Muslim young girls up and down the country –

        They do it because they can .

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  26. Fedup2 says:

    I read that the medical industry is being freed up so it can carry on coining NHS money . Emotion gets in the way of the angels and saints making up that industry –
    So they can under recruit to keep pay and overtime high – as well retaining their personal power –
    Added to this is the ability to take reprisals on any one who complains about poor or no treatment

    And at the higher level when they kill someone – your relative perhaps – they’ll cover it up by silence , fraud and more lies .
    But the NHS is wonderful though isn’t it ?

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  27. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 Bashing Brexit and Gammons

    Ladies Day again on TOADY. Project Fear v7 release 5.4, there will be a shortage of bacon after Brexit, esp. a N-D-B. Martha will not be able to cook breccie for her man. Oh! Woe! Thrice Woe! The BBC suddenly omit to tell us about how long bacon lasts because it is a cured meat.

    They also forget that at regular intervals they, the BBC, are telling us that
    0. food miles cause global warming, climate change, asthma and premature death
    1. red meat is bad for us
    2. bacon makes you obese
    2a. trucks transporting bacon give your child asthma
    3. processed food (cured) gives you cancer
    4. red meat is bad for the environment
    4a. processed food makes you obese
    5. eating bacon at the same time as a sausage will give you a heart attack and cancer and make you obese
    6. you will not live for ever if you eat bacon.
    7-10. all of the above jumbled up and churned out at regular intervals.

    I think Brexit may be the best thing that has ever happened to the environment and British farming and British manufacturing and British waistlines.

    Bring it on!

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    • G says:

      The most popular meat in China? Pork.
      But, right now they are losing hundreds of thousands of pigs – ‘African Swine Flu”. A massive uncontrollable and spreading outbreak. It’s that Africa again……………
      https://www.indoasiancommodities.com/2019/05/19/african-swine-flu-hits-chinese-economy-global-commodity-prices/
      I’ll be damned. Could that effect a World shortage of pork? Perhaps our far left Cultural Marxist State Broadcaster would like to tell us?
      After Brexit could British Pork be in high demand…………………Just thinking. As you do.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady unwatch

      2 whole days of no Toady . Reading reviews here I might have to re listen on the iplayer or the silence app thing … or maybe not …

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Up2….. re: bacon

      I love my bacon in rolls/sandwiches/with beans/with chicken in a salad etc etc however, I do realise that its not the bacon per se that does us damage, but the chemicals and preservatives that gets added to the stuff.

      I hadn’t realised until recently that bacon can be bought WITHOUT ALL the added nitrates – from Sainsbury’s in a wrapper ‘without nitrates’, and it’s just as delicious, so look out for it and give it a try – if it concerns you that is.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Brissles, thanks for the tip. Might try it out. I tend to boycott Sainsburys a bit because of their attitude, IIRC, to Israel and Gaza. No, it doesn’t worry me – bacon and its contents. (My Mum would feed me the occasional fried breakfast before school. That is until we, as a family, discovered muesli and Mum made her own version. That has health downsides, too, but with the dentist rather than an oncologist or heart specialist.)

        I’m happy to eat any old bacon but only have it now and then. Nitrates? They can help your day go with a bang! With some avocado on a nice slice of seeded brown, wiped with butter and then mayo on top – yummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

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  28. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 Ski-ing and a Sport Brother goes off piste

    Rob Sport asks an important question of a right-on, environmentally concerned, ocean-going yachtsman: “What about the air miles involved?”

    The yachtsman who was so clear, so certain before then, suddenly has to waffle like Bojo on a Bad Hair Day. He has no real answer.

       26 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Has the manner of Greta’s return trip been discussed yet?

         26 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Guest, I think many people may be expecting her to walk back, speaking kindly to any icebergs she meets on the way.

           30 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2
          And maybe she ll advise fisherman where to cast their nets in a sustainable way as described in the Gospels – which maybe need to be banned on health and safety grounds

          Water into wine
          Overfeeding five thousand
          Feasting

          And much much more – I hope the boss doesn’t mark me down as a blasphemer as I’ve been reading it again .,.

          Can’t get my head around healing people then telling them not to tell
          Anyone he’d done it ….

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Fed, re last para – God became fully man, so He got tired and felt all emotions, so it was understandable.

            At other times Jesus instructed the healed to tell a particular person (the Priest on duty in the Temple) or everyone back in a home village or region.

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  29. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I wonder how many of our children will make it through the summer holidays and how many will die of starvation and poverty.

    For 6 weeks they get no free meals at school and have to rely on food banks to keep alive.
    Bad news for the nurses who (we are constantly told) also need food banks to survive on their minimum of £23,640 starting wage with all these starving children taking their food from the food banks.

    Does anyone know what benefits a family of say two children plus mum and dad (mixed race of course) are entitled to, working or not, because I can’t believe children are starving, as many lefties would have us believe.
    Is it really happening?

       39 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      If they are starving why are we told most are overweight or obese..they can’t be both surely..maybe summer diet will do them good
      This is where the BBC get their narratives in a twist….it is like a muslim fighting a black trans man with a bacon roll…where would their sanctimonious meter go..

         41 likes

      • Dystopian says:

        Maybe we could kill two birds with one stone. Michael Burke says we should let fat people die. So when they do, we could send them to food banks for the skinny starving kids to eat.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      EG “…..family of say two children plus mum and dad (mixed race of course) are entitled to, working or not,………”

      Most of these families have got work portraying the typical English family in adverts on the tele !

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Since when have families consisted of ‘mum and dad’ surely it’s ‘ mum and partner(s) – and kids are so inconvenient – as in the horror double murder trial of a ‘ young mum’ last week ….

           14 likes

    • The WestWyvern says:

      The two or three kiddies I saw in the local Asda yesterday will quite clearly survive the next 5 to 6 weeks. In fact both them and the parent could actually do with a week or two starvation diet.

      Still, their trolleys piled high with Walkers Crisps, that will see them and the creature Lineker alright I guess.

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  30. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 The Miller’s Tale

    Gina Miller was brought on early to Bash Brexit and introduced as Director of Best For Britain – a group that campaigns to keep the UK in the EU. It was founded by Gina – which gives the lie to the fact that she was not trying to stop Brexit in 2016 with her High Court application – but the Director is Lord Malloch-Brown, a former diplomat if I recall correctly. Gina quickly and firmly corrects one of the M&Ms about their mistake.

    Said Martha or Mishal does not explain the aims of the Best For Britain group or ask Gina to explain. The M&Ms do not bother to ask where Best for Britain gets all its funding from.

    I wonder why?

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  31. Halifax says:

    As you no doubt guessed I’m from fax. Just sat in the doctors waiting room….there are people crying saying they can’t see a doctor for 3 weeks. The waiting room is full I’m having to wait hours. The staff are under considerable stress….is what the BBC wants you to think. Actually it’s empty the receptionist is reading a magazine I asked to see the doctor yesterday they offered me an appointment last night I couldn’t make it so I’m here first thing. I’m in a predominantly immigrant area sat in my beautifully appointed doctors surgery reading a 2 month old What Car…..No crisis here BBC.

       36 likes

    • G says:

      Oh come now Halifax! The Government are doing all they can to relieve pressure on the country’s infrastructure. Here now, listen to our ex Home Secretary, now Chancellor, explaining what our Government proposes.

      Have faith. (No, not that one……)

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Halifax, this is the great mystery.

      Up and down the country it appears that none of us can get an appointment for around 3 weeks at the surgery, so how is it, when we finally do get an apt and turn up, the waiting room is bloody empty ! I’ve spoken to friends and rellies around the country and we all experience the same. I think there is a GP conspiracy, as well as the huge number of appointments that are held back from release.

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  32. andyjsnape says:

    Boardmasters cancelled hours before gates open over storm fears
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-49259812

    No need to cancel, why not use Cardboard Tents – as recently reported by the beeb!

       21 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @Andy ..see that is Climate Change
      ..there is no way the organisers could have predicted that in a British summer there could be rain & winds .

      doh, if you organise a festival .. you have a wet weather plan

      One of the things you do, is don’t let the festival get too big.
      We’ve done festivals where the stage is covered and had the punters all come up onto the stage
      and the band play in one corner .
      Or have the audience watching from covered marquees.

      Flexibility must be built into the schedule.
      So on a Friday to Monday fest.. you can advance some bands to Friday so you can close the festival on Sunday
      Or delay the start so the festival goes on into Monday.
      It’s not really a big staffing problem cos most of your crew will be on site for the entire week.

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  33. MarkyMark says:

    “lawfully sacked for writing tweets which criticised government policies.” {bbc.co.uk aug2019} – the death of freedom of speech.

    1765 …. **In a republic worthy of name, freedom to publish one ’s thoughts is a citizen’s natural right.** They may use a pen or their voice, and should not be prevented from writing any more than speaking …That is the law in England, a monarchical country, where people are freer than elsewhere because they are more enlightened. – Voltaire, Republican Ideas, 1765

    2018 … In addition to reporting hate crime, please report non-crime hate incidents, **which can include things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing**. Hate will not be tolerated in South Yorkshire. Report it and put a stop to it #HateHurtsSY – UK South Yorkshire Police, 2018

    1765 … **In a republic worthy of name, freedom to publish one’s thoughts is a citizen’s natural right.**

    2018 … **which can include things like offensive or insulting comments, online, in person or in writing**

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  34. StewGreen says:

    LBC debating whether DCC’s punk hair breaks the police laws
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/police-commissioner-senior-cop-whaley-bridge-hair/


    She’s in Derbyshire
    but these are the regs for Nottinghamshire
    EBWqPS5W4AEfw7z.jpg:small

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    • The WestWyvern says:

      Disgraceful. Another common purpose drone.

      Sir Robert Peel will be spinning in his grave.

      Police Farce. #norespectfrommeanymore

         35 likes

      • JamesArthur says:

        Not fit for purpose – but they will say it infringes (sic) her huwoman rights…
        My recent experiences with the police ( as a useful citizen not a criminal ) have all been disappointing…standards have fallen as more have ‘degrees’ just like nursing and vet nurses and…..the list goes on..any profession that used to be skilled vocational that went to a degree loses practical and proficient and gains self entitled underskilled and over egoed

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    • Old Goat says:

      No glittery beards, eyeliner, eye shadow, garish nail varnish or other items of make-up, then – and no rainbow accoutrements and uniform attachments and unauthorised “accessories”, not to mention prancing in a poncish manner with the public at certain festivals and events. I bet most of these ghey plonkers contravene their own regulations and dress codes every second of their shift.

      And is there any course of redress for an angry, and disgusted public? No, we must accept the diversity thrust in our faces.

      In my day, it was an offence to smoke within public view, and one had to remove sunglasses when speaking to a member of the public. Those days of common decency and respect have long gone.

         35 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      I reckon he / she is on a bit of a sniff for a bit of ‘bullying ‘ compensation and another promotion to be ‘nice ‘.
      Glass ceiling eh?

         14 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      “Senior constable”

      Wish I had me hose-pipe

      Actually, she looks more like one of those female serial killers in the US sat in court – now there’s a pun – trying to look like a spinster while trying to fashion herself as an ex-librarian or ex-social worker.

      They always try the trick of wearing their moms old glasses.

      It never works – Life.

         12 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      She looks as daft as a brush!

         11 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Lesbian ?

         10 likes

  35. Guest Who says:

    How to put this…. #CCBGB

       10 likes

    • Mrs Kitty says:

      I saw the photo of her/him/it yesterday and thought nope that’s been photoshopped, my jaw has now hit the floor. POLICE FORCE becomes Police Service now it’s POLICE FARCE. I seriously don’t know if I want to laugh or cry. That grinding noise we can hear is Sir Robert Peel spinning in his grave.

         26 likes

  36. StewGreen says:

    The Rebel calling out the BBC ‘!8 months to save the planet’ hyperbole
    ..Newspapers love scare stories cos it helps to shift their advertisers magic green solutions.

       17 likes

  37. Sluff says:

    Stop press.
    The BBC are reporting people will not be able to cut their toenails after Brexit owing to the absence of UK regulations about sharp objects impacting health and safety.

    I just totally made that up.
    But on the other hand, how surprised would we be if it were true?

       32 likes

  38. Dover Sentry says:

    Dominic Cummings speaks:

    “I believe that politicians don’t get to choose which votes they respect.”

    There followed a choice line about Grieve 🙂

       23 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Dover
      I think he should keep his mouth shut – and as I’ve said here – they ( brexit politicians ) should avoid the MSM until after brexit at all costs –

      But …. the line about which vote politicians respect – was somewhat armour piecing …

         20 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      D,

      I hope that that loud mouth outside parliament reads the bit “no deal preparations are coming along great”

      Only a matter of time now afore Blair, Brown, Major, May, Clarke, Branson and the other liars traitors realise that all their hopes and arguments are forever dashed against those EU rocks.

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  39. digg says:

    The Labour Party grasping at straws as they sink below the waves offering no opposition to Scottish Independence.

    Let go back to 2012…

    In 2012 they vigorously opposed Scottish Independence and along with the Conservatives and the Lib Dems. they established the cross-party “Better Together” campaign

    Snake Oil salesmen the lot of them, they think we have no memory.

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  40. Nibor says:

    80548101020519400000001330010000 000339 357A

    6261131479

    IN01K5 IN-INNT-1EU-07-19 401EC/190724/123681/0099851 page 1 00000

    REV/PENF/2EN/04/19

    What are these numbers and letters

    The encryption of the complete works of Shakespeare ?

    The secret codes needed to launch nuclear strikes ?

    The Mormons book of everyone who has ever lived ?

    All the directives and regulations that the EU has imposed since 1957 translated into every language ?

    No , its the numbers that appear on the BBC,s threatogram , the same missive sent every month for 5 years at this address with the same numbers .
    But don’t think that Aunty is a bit staid in outlook , the colour of the envelopes change and Mr John Hales, Enforcement Manager , has moved from Southend to Cambridge .
    ( I wonder if this is the BBCs way of showing they`re getting closer to me ? This has being going on longer than the Second World War – should I retreat to a bunker and monitor their advances on maps with situation reports ?) if Mr John Hales moves into my street I shall continue my defiance .
    Or can I thwart their offensive ? Perhaps if I write back but misquote 80845101012519400000001330010010000 00359 357 A
    to
    8084510101251940000001330010010000 00359 357 A
    they will go to the wrong house .
    ( eagle eyed readers will notice the missing zero – but which one ? there are a sequence of seven zeros there , I just missed out the third . That will baffle them eh ?)

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  41. Sluff says:

    And now we move to the enduring and rarely mentioned scandal which is public sector pension entitlement.

    Doctors on over £100k are leaving or reducing hours because of the admittedly punitive taxation on pension savings above certian amounts
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-49196357

    The government is going to overall the system to give the public sector even more benefits !!!!!!!!

    They are proposing to give the doctors the money as salary that would have been paid as employer contributions.

    The immorality of this, the partiality, the bias , is jaw-dropping.
    Remember that a salary based inflation-protected pension (public sector) is converted into a notional cash pot by multiplying by a factor of 20, which presumes in effect annuity rates of 5%. So a doctor with pension entitlement of £50k is assumed to have a pension pot of £1 million, which is the limit before draconian taxation come in to play. He thus avoids the tax trap, set at 55%.

    But the real annuity rate is about 3.33% . So a private sector worker with £1 million pension pot would get a pension of only £33k.

    Now readers may take the view that they are all lucky to have this level of earnings. But that is not the point. The point is yet again a differential in favour of the public sector, which we all pay for, as well as for our own pensions.

    The statist BBC are, of course, remarkably selective in their reporting, in the direction that suits their ideal of entitlement.

       21 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      Sluff

      I think the other point is that many of these consultants have private work off the back of their NHS and I am guessing that goes into a pension pot too – so they could just stop the private work….when I hear a 45 year old medic moaning because he has passed million in his pension pot do I feel sorry for him? Nah…
      As you say a gold plated pension in public sector beyond what a private sector person would get..

         11 likes

      • Cane Corso says:

        I’ve just been asked (well told really) that I need to wait another 2 months, after an initial wait of 6 weeks, to get a second opinion on cancer. Do they know I voted for Independence in 2016?
        But I’ve nevah had a wait at my inner London GP surgery which is excellent.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        But the private work is done in the mornings so that those who have paid can be put on the top bit of their NHS list by bunging the admin and nursing staff a few bob to fix it .

        Common practice – and since the ‘ medical professionals ‘ have a strangle hold on ‘restrictive practices ‘ nothing will be done about it .,
        The corruption in that out fit – yet alone the unentitled abusing it – would be a scandal if it ever made public awareness .

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    • The Sage says:

      Surely, overhaul the system…..

         5 likes

  42. StewGreen says:

    ‘Andrew Norfolk is a witch’
    Last month, a report, Unmasked: Andrew Norfolk, The Times Newspaper and Anti-Muslim Reporting: A Case to Answer, painted an ugly picture of Norfolk, now chief investigative reporter at The Times. The 66-page report, written by journalists Brian Cathcart and Paddy French, centres around three series of articles published between 2017 and 2018, which the authors suggest ‘tended to encourage fear of Muslims’.
    https://www.spiked-online.com/2019/08/05/the-smearing-of-andrew-norfolk/

    BTW People often say that TR said nothing before Norfolk published , but that is not truew. AFAIK this is the genuine 2009 TR Luton video that mentions his 2004 letter

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  43. Celtic_Mist says:

    The authors here argue for open borders –

    “Bold climate policies like the Green New Deal, and even bolder challenges to capitalist production in the name of climate justice, must include a commitment to the free movement of people, especially on the part of countries, like the U.S., that bear vast responsibility for global climate degradation. As I have argued, wealthy countries have both the space and the resources to take in many millions of immigrants, if wealth, resources, and land were justly distributed.”

    [The shooter wrote –
    “The American lifestyle affords our citizens an incredible quality of life. However, our lifestyle is destroying the environment of our country. The decimation of the environment is creating a massive burden for future generations. Corporations are heaing (sic) the destruction of our environment by shamelessly over harvesting resources. This has been a problem for decades. For example, this phenomenon is brilliantly portrayed in the decades old classic “The Lorax”. Water sheds around the country, especially in agricultural areas, are being depleted. Fresh water is being polluted from farming and oil drilling operations. Consumer culture is creating thousands of tons of unnecessary plastic waste and electronic waste, and recycling to help slow this down is almost non-existent. Urban sprawl creates inefficient cities which unnecessarily destroys millions of acres of land. We even use god knows how many trees worth of paper towels just wipe water off our hands. Everything I have seen and heard in my short life has led me to believe that the average American isn’t willing to change their lifestyle, even if the changes only cause a slight inconvenience. The government is unwilling to tackle these issues beyond empty promises since they are owned by corporations. Corporations that also like immigration because more people means a bigger market for their products. I just want to say that I love the people of this country, but god damn most of y’all are just too stubborn to change your lifestyle. So the next logical step is to decrease the number of people in America using resources. If we can get rid of enough people, then our way of life can become more sustainable.”]

       6 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @CelticMist “eco-fascism” Spot the language trick
      eco-fascism has a normal meaning ie totalitarian following of a dogma
      And I note that there is Green-supremacism and lib-supremacism
      whereby they believe they are so superior we have to obey them.
      But she seeks to REDEFINE “eco-fascism” as an green person who opposes open borders.

      Firstly it is not fascist to oppose open borders .. or lock your house.

         10 likes

      • Celtic_Mist says:

        Stew
        One reply almost ‘nailed it’ – “Which is worse, climate denial or eco-fascism?” Trump can’t be accused of the latter and argues for immigration reform for the correct reasons.

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  44. G.W.F. says:

    Boris’s BBC continue to bash Trump over the shootings. The man proposes a visit to El Paso and Boris’s BBC find people who don’t want him there.
    Same anti Trump propaganda that we had under the last government.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49261795

       24 likes

  45. Doobster78 says:

    Breaking News …

    2 Muslims have just crashed a speedboat in Whaley Bridge …… apparently it’s the start of RAMADAM !!

    (sorry, just had too).

       45 likes

  46. Peter Sausages says:

    My old Aunt thought Faisal Islam was a new religious group!!!

       22 likes

  47. StewGreen says:

    R4 talking about “Eco-anxiety” disorders
    Patrick Kennedy Williams
    she pushes back by saying it’s no different to normal worry

    It wasn’t in the running order I guess Radio1 have been reading this
    https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2019/07/can-rise-eco-anxiety-help-save-us-climate-disaster

       6 likes

  48. StewGreen says:

    Radio2 : Listening with your lunch
    .. don’t use too much ketchup

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