Midweek Open Thread 24 July 2019

The Biased Far Left BBC knows full well that the new British Prime Minister is no great fan of it . This will lead to a concerted effort to destroy him before he either achieves a successful Brexit and/or turns his attention to reforming a State Broadcaster which has lost its way and is no longer ‘British’.

Obviously making the BBC British and unbiased again can’t be done with the current corrupt Parliament in place . Boris has a long list of issues to repair the damage done by Mrs May to our country . But with help he must start to drain the corrupt swamp including the Biased BBC. Good luck Bo.

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640 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 24 July 2019

  1. taffman says:

    IMHO, Along with Al Beeb, there are a number of MPs in the UK that would be quite happy to undermine our negotiations with the EU in order to keep us in the EU ?
    Is this Treason ?

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  2. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Boris Johnson’s first speech as prime minister: what he said, and what he really meant.

    (via BBC Politics) bbc.in/2Y3mZks

    ***

    According to…?

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  3. taffman says:

    If man could be put on the moon over 50 years ago, you would think that Al Beeb and the rest of the MSM could hold their interviews out of shouting range of that demented clown in a top hat, shouting “stop brexxxxxxit” every minute ?
    Cheap, childish propaganda paid for by whom ?

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    • G.W.F. says:

      taffman

      I wondered why we haven’t heard from Maxi of late. Seems he has moved to BBC outside propaganda

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      • taffman says:

        His controller has told him to ‘wind his neck in’ as he is doing more damage to Al Beeb by ‘trolling on here.
        He is now in his safe space.

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        I think he’s bought a xylophone.

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        • taffman says:

          Putting it mildly ……..
          That sock-puppet knows jolly well what he can do with his xylophone.

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  4. Guest Who says:

    What do you reckon… Newsnight, Today, VD, Vine… or all four tomorrow?

       23 likes

    • Banania says:

      Gosh, she is poisonous.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Poor Ash is a new entrant in the Race Hate industry and is up against it with the likes of Lammy , alibi quite brown , the D Abbot and so many others who discredit their race with dumb tribal comments which just bemuse or anger the indigenous population .
        Sure her mum and dad love her …

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    • pugnazious says:

      This was the message that Kuenssberg herself was pushing…telling us Boris would appoint bame and women so he’d tick alll the right boxes….and, Kuenssberg siad, this just wasn’t the right way to do things….from the BBC that lives to do just that.

      And how insulting to Javid and Patel…..the real example of tokenism was Warsi who rose without trace as they say…made chair of the Tory Party and a Baroness…why?…only because she is Muslim.

      If Corbyn had appointed loads of bame and women Kuenssberg would never have said that…despite needing bodyguards to attend a Corbyn conference.

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  5. Foscari says:

    Has Laura Kuenssberg the BBC TV political editor been
    given permission by BIG BROTHER to give her OWN political views?
    I thought that in the BBC Charter it says that the BBC is supposed
    to be NEUTRAL in UK politics. Has BIG BROTHER now told “it’s”
    Editors , Presenters, Reporters etc that the BBC has become the
    converse of FOX News in the USA and to present itself in supporting the left ?
    My wife who thinks I am paranoid concerning the BBC told me this morning
    that she couldn’t believe how facetious Kuensberg was when
    describing the new cabinet arriving at 10 Downing Street. She
    said that “they were like eager puppies waiting to enter.” But this was said with real sarcasm.
    OK BBC if you have become a left wing Media outlet, fair enough.
    BUT just don’t expect us to pay the License fee to listen to your Liberal
    bigots, expounding their own views!!

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  6. Loobyloo says:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/business-49113728

    When do Al Beeb ever suggest this might be a good reason to get out of the EU before it takes us down with it? Answer: never. Of course it’s the fault of Brexit and Trump. Sky carry the same story but do not mention Brexit (for a change):

    “mainly reflects the ongoing weakness in international trade in an environment of prolonged global uncertainties, which are particularly affecting the euro are manufacturing sector”.

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  7. Loobyloo says:

    Apologies if it’s been mentioned already but one of the big stories on Fox, was videos of cops in NYC being doused with water by members of the public, while on duty, and in one case hit on the head by a bucket. The sad thing is said cops did not retaliate, and took no action against the assailants. Onlookers laughed. Pretty shocking for US cops IMO. Its covered by many of the major papers and stations, but strangely hasn’t shown up on Al Beeb’s US page…these assault’s took place in Harlem and Brooklyn, so I’m guessing that doesn’t portray Al Beeb’s favourite minorities in a good light.
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/nypd-doused-with-water-videos-show-water-thrown-on-nyc-cops-being-attacked-with-buckets-harlem-2019-07-23/
    https://www.cnn.com/2019/07/23/us/nypd-water-buckets-outrage/index.html
    https://nypost.com/2019/07/24/video-emerges-of-third-water-bucket-attack-on-nypd-cops/

    Trends tend to cross the ocean too.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Looby – with some disbelief I saw it . But more importantly POTUS has seen it too and has been tweeting about it .
      There are mild similarities here where coppers have to retreat in the face of Muslim thugs .

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      • Loobyloo says:

        Yes but our cops have already bowed to the altar of PC, removed their shoes and painted their toenails. To see US cops, who are armed!!, treated with such disrespect and outright physical abuse just means that the assailants are being emboldened.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The cops know that Mayor de Blasio is basically a communist. If they try and enforce the law, he’ll end their careers. With him in charge, all the gains of the Giuliani years will be lost, and soon New York will be as violent as London.

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  8. theisland says:

    I agree with DV.

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    • Loobyloo says:

      I agree. can’t think why he has decided to allow Rudd and Morgan, the latter who is a real die hard remainer, into the cabinet. I wouldn’t trust them for a second.

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  9. StewGreen says:

    Is Australian senator Malcolm Roberts slightly different from the calibre of politicians we get in the British parliament ?

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  10. taffman says:

    Reminder to Al Beeb and the rest of the Remainers, we joined the Common Market for trade, not to become subservient to a political dictatorship . We are a democracy and example of a democracy that the world respects and watches with great interest .
    My God, what on earth have our MEP’s been doing for the last 46 years for their money and life style, sleep walking ? They should hang their heads in shame.

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  11. StewGreen says:

    Malcolm Roberts new speech on climate

       18 likes

    • Loobyloo says:

      Outrageous, a very undiverse threesome.
      Seriously though, these are brave men. Sure to be unpersoned pretty soon.

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  12. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I suppose one of the upsides to this heatwave is that with all the tarmac melting the roads are filling in their own potholes.

       21 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      E,

      Good point.

      Pity it doesn’t work on the face of that Alibi Brown woman.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Vine on Channel5
    \\ Are you serious?
    @channel5_tv has changed its schedule so the pompous @theJeremyVine
    and a bunch of randoms can discuss the temperature?
    Has the world ended?
    No – just a tad warmer than usual and, guess what, it won’t last! #nannystate #GrowUp //

    Vine “record breaking temperatures” “record breaking temperatures
    Duh it’s not record breaking temperatures you fool.
    Your opening statement was it was the *second* hottest day on record


    Actually to me the *hottest day” would be the 24 hour period with the hottest average temperature over the whole country
    …NOT a day where you cherrypick one location crossing a line for one moment.

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    • popeye says:

      As a previous contributor mentioned, how many monitoring stations are there today compared, say, to 1976? Stations fairly close to each other can record quite significant variations (never mind the notorious one at Heathrow positioned by the Jumbo jet exhaust, now conveniently ignored) so it is easy to imagine that more stations in previous years could have recorded higher “records”. An analysis of that by the thousands of BBC “journalists” just wouldn’t meet the agenda though, would it?

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        • JimS says:

          I think that blogger is jumping to conclusions. The BBC’s response to the FOI request is their stock answer to all FOI requests, their first line of resistance, they haven’t considered his question at all.

          To get them to do that would require him to come up with decent arguments on a point-by-point basis as to why the FOI exclusions don’t apply to his specific question. You have to show them that you mean business!

          I have had similar run-ins with local authorities over traffic orders, the first response is always, “we are the highway authority and all our traffic orders are legal, (so there!)”. Then I came back with “so why does YOUR drawing for previous traffic order X back my position and not yours?” At which point they realise they have been caught out. (In the case of a local authority they may well get their way, but only by going back to square one and doing the job legally).

          The point is, you have to hit them with the rules that they are playing by, unless you have deep pockets and can go for a judicial review.

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      • Scroblene says:

        You’re right, Popeye!

        “An analysis of that by the thousands of BBC “journalists” just wouldn’t meet the agenda though, would it”?

        These would be researched facts, not the usual ‘opinions’, so will never count!

        About stats though, wasn’t a white Christmas monitored by a beeboid camping out on the roof of the old BBC, and if just one snowflake was spotted, it was deemed so!

        I suppose, if one snowflake was camped out, he/she/it might be a better solution, especially if the group included all their mates…

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    • StewGreen says:

      Yesterday they were pretty certain the record would be broken by quite some margin
      See CliScep discussion
      http://cliscep.com/2019/07/24/no-ifs-no-buts-the-uk-met-office-has-decided-that-it-will-be-39c-tomorrow-and-this-will-most-likely-be-due-to-climate-change/

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      • Sluff says:

        Stew
        A friend of mine, not really a bBBC sort of person, reckons that ever since the weather forecast failure of the 1987 hurricane, the BBC weather forecast has had arse-covering as its top priority. Whether snow, rain, wind, or heat, the BBC big up the danger warnings, regularly predicting plague and pestilence which rarely actually happen. Today was just another example.

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        • Scroblene says:

          Sluff, they obviously haven’t read Exodus recently!

          The Eight Plagues are: –

          Blood: Ex. 7:14–24. …
          Frogs: Ex. 7:25–8:15. …
          Lice: Ex. 8:16-19. …
          Wild animals or flies: Ex. 8:20-32. …
          Pestilence of livestock: Ex. 9:1–7. …
          Boils: Ex. 9:8–12. …
          Thunderstorm of hail and fire: Ex. 9:13–35. …
          Locusts: Ex. 10:1–20.

          But in our case at ‘Scrobs Turrets’, it’s blasted wasps…

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        • G says:

          Sluff,
          There was certainly a shift to alarm mode in the Shipping Forecast post 1987

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      • G says:

        The Climate Change devotees are fortunate in that the UK has a climate which lends itself to the fanatics bleatings. Humidity is the key.
        Rises in temperature will be associated with the increase in humidity and hence, discomfort which probably most UK people alone subconsciously measure.
        If we had the climate of Saudi Arabia which currently is forecast 9% humidity (for Riyadh) we would be far less uncomfortable and hence less persuaded that temperature was a “man made” problem. My location forecast today? Not dropping less than a very uncomfortable 90% humidity.

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  14. taffman says:

    \\Boris Johnson’s Brexit policy ‘unacceptable’ – EU negotiator
    Responding to questions from MPs, he said he was committed to “getting rid” of the backstop, describing it as “divisive” and “anti-democratic”.//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49118107
    The chips are down .
    Prepare for ‘Heavy weight Project Fear’ from Al Beeb and MSM.

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  15. Sluff says:

    Not strictly bBBC but time for a quick lesson in Democracy.

    Boris Johnson.
    Elected as an MP.
    Elected as Leader of the Tories.
    Brexit.
    The people voted in favour in a Referendum.
    Brexit Party clear winners in European elections.

    Liberal Democrats.
    Anti liberal patronising grouping, determined to subvert the will of the people.

    Michel Barnier, Jean Claude Juncker.
    Unelected bureaucrats selected by a stitch-up behind closed doors in a smoke-filled room.

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  16. pugnazious says:

    The BBC is still in denial and feeding us toxic and dangerous fake news, fabricated ‘news’ that is so patently prejudiced, one-sided and untrue that it would have shamed the most loyal and zealous state broadcaster in any Soviet Bloc country to up their game to compete as they look on in admiration and awed envy at the BBC’s chicanery.

    The BBC is, naively or with malice, doing Putin’s work for him. Putin wants to cause as much chaos, disorder and division across the US political spectrum as possible and the BBC, with its fellow American media travellers along with the Democratic Party, are the useful idiots who wreak the havoc as they whip up a storm of political outrage against Trump and everything he does, and it’s all based on lies and wishful thinking on the part of the liberal elite here and in the US who have clambered into bed with Putin and are so enthusiastically spreading his messages intended to tear America apart.

    For three years the BBC has pumped out a tsunami of anti-Trump messaging [when it’s not doing the same for Boris] based on their own hatred of his politics or on their accusations that he colluded with the Russians to steal the Presidency….all of it stems from their own liberal world view that cannot tolerate, ironically, any other view that they see as in opposition to theirs…Islam aside of course…they are quite happy to promote that genuinely fascist ideology.

    Mueller’s report stated that there was no evidence of Trump colluding with the Russians and thus he was exonerated of that fake accusation…however Mueller claimed that whilst he had no evidence of Trump obstructing the investigation he couldn’t exonerate him there…hmmm…what happened to the presumption of innocence?….surely lack of evidence does exonerate him, you can’t say there’s no evidence but you know what I’m just gonna say he might be guilty.

    The BBC of course still pressed the guilty line, not just for obstruction but for collusion as well….combing through the report for the slightest nuance that might suggest, that maybe, just maybe, Mueller really meant to say Trump was a Russian stooge.

    Recently we’ve had Mueller being quizzed by Congress and it ain’t been pretty, the boy done bad and the Dems are crying into their lattes. However the BBC just doesn’t see it that way….the BBC writes it up with insinuation after insinuation that Trump did collude and did obstruct the report…..the BBC words it and phrases it with the intent that you are misled as to what is going on, conflating two different issues, making one claim about something else whilst talking about another thing so as to make you think the conclusion applies to the wrong issue…..here for instance….talking about no evidence of conspiracy but then conflates it with the obstruction accusation and the ‘no-exoneration’ on that count trying to make you think Mueller is saying he couldn’t charge Trump for conspiracy because he is a sitting President when in fact he was talking about the alleged obstruction…

    ‘The report stated that no evidence of a conspiracy was found, but it did lay out 10 instances where the president possibly obstructed justice. Mr Mueller has said his report did not exonerate the president, but that charging a sitting president was not an option.’

    The BBC then puts Putin and Trump in the same sentence saying the same thing….thus intending you to think they are linked and are spinning the same line…

    ‘Both the Russian and US presidents had poured scorn on suggestions of “collusion”, with Mr Trump calling it “the greatest political witch hunt in history”.’

    The BBC article goes on and on in the same vein…here for example doing something similar to the above as they report it is normal for party officials to contact foreign natonals…but adds that three were caught lying…but the ‘lying’ was unconnected to any idea of collusion….and most, if not all, the indictments were on issues similarly unconnected with collusion or conspiracy…but the BBC doesn’t tell you that it just leaves you to join the dots provided by the BBC and create the image of conspiracy as the BBC intends you to see….

    ‘The president’s supporters point out that interactions with foreign nationals are routine during any White House campaign, but three Trump associates have now admitted lying about these encounters.’

    What the BBC doesn’t tell us also is that the real collusion was on the Democratic side. What the BBC doesn’t tell you in this long, long report is that Mueller was skewered by accusations that he hadn’t investigated the accusations of that Democratic conspiracy and that Christopher Steele had either lied or been fed lies by Russian agents that were meant to damage Trump…and we know, Steele admitted this, that his sources were active Russian intelligence agents! The BBC just never, ever reports this. Instead they claim the Steele dossier is proof that Trump colluded with the Russians and that the Russians wanted to help him become President. The dossier in fact, quite obviously, proves the complete opposite…the Russians were trying to damage Trump. How is claiming they have a film of him with prostitutes peeing on him in a Russian hotel helping Trump in any way whatsoever?

    All this is brought up in the Congressional questioning of Mueller and yet the BBC somehow misses out this crucial and explosive charge.

    Naturally Fox News and Breitbart oblige….

    Robert Mueller: Democrats’ Collusion with Russia ‘Outside My Purview’

    ‘Former Special Counsel Robert Mueller told the House Judiciary Committee repeatedly on Wednesday morning that the potential collusion between Democrats and Russians in the 2016 presidential election was “outside my purview.”

    Though his mandate required him to investigate Russian interference in the election without specific reference to a particular candidate or party, Mueller made it clear he had only investigated President Donald Trump’s campaign.’

    Astonishing that the BBC isn’t in the slightest bit interested in investigating Democratic collusion with the Russians, the evidence for which is far more extensive and convincing than that against Trump.

    The BBC has decided to collude with the Russians in an attempt to unseat a US President because they don’t like his policies on immigration and abortion essentially. Then again they are happy to conspire with an anti-semitic, terrorist Marxist wrecker just because Boris is a Tory and a Brexiteer.

    There’s that old game of asking who would have been a collaborator if the Russians or Hitler had invaded succesfully?

    Not hard to imagine is it. The Russians haven’t even invaded and the BBC cooperatively passes on their black propaganda as ‘news’. I suppose that is the perfect example of BBC balance…the BBC World Service broadcasts liberal, progressive propaganda to Russia trying to undermine its tyrannical regime whilst the BBC at home spreads Russian propaganda throughout the West to undermine its political and social fabric….perfect.

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    • vlad says:

      We need a British Fox News ASAP.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      pug – staggering to think that all we got from the bbc was a repeat of that tired old Mueller point that his report had not excluded the possibility that Trump was guilty, or some trash like that.
      That’s what happens when you are narrative-driven, rather than events/news driven: your agenda is the thing at almost all times. The news is only provided if it fits in with that, and if it doesn’t, you just keep repeating the same old, same old, the one that does suit your narrative.
      I watched Mueller for a while; he seemed old, tired and barely conscious. He could not or would not answer dozens of questions. It is beyond belief that the beeb failed to give us an accurate representation of what went on here, because of their ideological committment to the Dems and their desperate if not pathological desire to nail Trump!

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  17. Dover Sentry says:

    Rees-Mogg today on top form.

    His Lib Dem victim squirmed. A classic.

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    • pugnazious says:

      Yeah…loved the humourless indignation on his face as JRM turned the joke back onto him.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        JRM has been wasted on the back benches – he’s box office on the front bench and the remainers / BBC will hate it – the inadequecy of the likes of Mr Brake – needing to read the question – is an embarrassment – and a lot of them do it now …

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Agree, Fed. J R-M would be my choice for Chancellor.

          Bojo should have kept Javid at Home (a dysfunctional Office according to John Reid) as I think he was doing a good job there and is the best person to sort that Ministry out.

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    • taffman says:

      Brake reading from notes .
      Rees Moog ad-libbing.
      Game over for the Lib Dems

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  18. pugnazious says:

    There are major frontpage news reports that the German economy is on the slide….but you won’t find it making headlines on the BBC….not on the frontpage, the world page, the Europe page…but hidden away on the business page…and even then downplayed….

    Eurozone prepares for interest rate cut as growth slows

    What’s interesting is this…

    ‘The European Central Bank has hinted it could cut interest rates to tackle a slowdown in the eurozone economy. It said a weak manufacturing sector and uncertainty about Brexit and trade threatened to derail growth in the bloc.’

    Uncertainty about Brexit?….so the EU really does need to sort out Brexit and end that uncertainty….that means they are open for negotiation…not forgetting, despite the BBC not reporting it, that Ireland’s own assessment of the consequences of a no-deal on Ireland is that it would be catastrophic…from the Irish Times….‘It is one of the most alarming documents ever published by an Irish government.’

    If they don’t want a no-deal they’d better negotiate a new deal. Odd that the BBC prefers though to insist, on the EU’s behalf it would seem, that the EU has absolutely no intention of reopening negotiations and therefore Boris must surrender and forget Brexit.

    You have to ask why the BBC doesn’t want you to know too much about the EU’s economic troubles and the catastrophe that would befall Ireland on a no-deal scenario. If they told you of course you might realise Boris was right and that Parliament, that Remain majority blocking Brexit, is wrong and that Boris has not only the mandate from the 2016 referendum but the tools to do the job if only Parliament would let him…taking no-deal off the table is the deliberate sabotaging of the British negotiating team by the pro-EU Remainers….maybe that might be considered conspiracy or collusion with a foreign power….maybe the BBC will get very irate about that…maybe not. It seems more concerned about fabricating stories about a US President colluding with a foreign power than the reality of that happening right here and now in Britain.

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  19. taffman says:

    Sometimes I think they are scraping the barrel looking for non-news to hide far more important news while you lot pay for it …………………
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/stories-49057533
    End the telly tax.

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    • taffman says:

      Nissan to cut 12,500 jobs worldwide
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49109307
      Breaking …..Latest news Uk, will be hardly affected?
      https://www.theguardian.com/business/2019/jul/25/nissan-plans-to-axe-12500-jobs-worldwide-carmaker-reveals

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Taff, talking of scraping the barrel, how about this one, something close to Al Beebs heart (or maybe another organ..):

      Why NZ cleared a Chinese man for touching a boy’s penis https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-china-blog-49093697

      So many things to say about this article, but primarily, why is it on a British news website? Can’t even be bothered to comment on the fact that NZ cleared the man cos he did it for ‘cultural reasons ‘. You reap what you sow, so tough shit NZ for allowing in an elderly Chinese man who ‘really misses his grandson in China’ – should have stayed then.

      Coming soon:
      Why the UK government and press has ignored Muslim gang rape for so long.
      Not.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        The BBC like this story because it promotes the narrative that immigrants and Third Worlders should be applicable to different laws when in Western Countries and allowed to get away with crimes. There was an analogous case some years ago in Australia, in which a group of Muslim men were on trial accused of the gang rape of an Australian woman. The defence counsel argued that such behaviour was acceptable in their original countries for cultural reasons and therefore we should all be a bit more ‘tolerant’ about such things. I have heard a liberal lawyer argue that the age of sexual consent should be reduced to 12 but for Muslims only as that is a marriageable age in some countries.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Self identifying as Harvey Weinstein as a legit defence may see Emma cut back on the fly-bys to certain countries.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Meanwhile, their global efforts in complement excel. The moaning emole:

      ***

      How did straws become a Trump culture war?

      Ever given much thought to how you consume a cold drink? Well now, your chosen method could be seen as a political statement. Thousands of Trump-branded plastic straws have been sold on the US president’s official campaign website – at $15 for 10 – since they were launched as an alternative to “liberal” paper straws.

      The bright-red straws, laser-engraved with the word Trump, are being marketed as reusable and recyclable, with the message: “Liberal paper straws don’t work. Stand with President Trump and buy your recyclable straws today.” Now environmental groups are saying most plastic straws can’t actually be recycled however – and that the material they’re made of has no practicable use.

      Read full analysis >

      Lauren Turner.

      ***

      Lauren seems new. I bet her ‘full analysis’ will get submitted by Jon for a Pulitzer.

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      • Dystopian says:

        Re plastic straws “– and that the material they’re made of has no practicable use.”

        Let’s see…maybe they could recycle them as….plastic straws?

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Dyst, we have a plastics specialist here on B-BBC: Beeb Brother has worked in the industry.

          IIRC, plastic straws can be recycled but it depends on their PET qualities and ratings. Don’t ask me to explain. The complexity of the technicalities and chemistries scrambles my brain. Just trying to remember the different names results in a Bluebottle moment with BBC Home Service FX of straining with the inevitable result of a snap.

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          • Guest Who says:

            A near neighbour was a plastic bag shamer and now XR gofer, sticking laminated posters around town.

            She has one of these in her garden.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            B’pardon, all. Correction: Light Programme not Home Service. Slap on wrist. Cashiered from the Fifth Foot and Mouth – again!

            “Aaaaghhhh!”

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  20. TrueToo says:

    Up2snuff,

    You pay paradise and put up a parking lot?!

    The correct lyrics are:

    They paved paradise and put up a parking lot

    You are going to have to go cap in hand to Joni Mitchell and apologise.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Quite right, TT. As a bit of a (true) environmentalist I do like the famously ‘Misheard lyric’. * [Poor enunciation, Joni 😉 ] Which, of course, was much more appropriate in tone for my post. If Bojo does actually deliver on all his promises, a reduced tax take will result in massive borrowing and debt for future generations. I await the Budget with interest.

      *Cannot remember where it comes in the top ten. It ought to be near the top. Quite how ‘She’s got Betty Davis eyes’ can be misheard as ‘She’s got badly dented thighs’, I’ll never know.

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  21. andyjsnape says:

    Anyone else noticed that the eu.bc always reports as if the eu has the upper hand in negotiations..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49118107

    Apparently this is unacceptable to the eu. BUT beeb maybe there is issues unacceptable to the UK??? its worth reporting these to!

    The EU house of cards will fall, without the UKs massive injection of cash

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  22. Guest Who says:

    Which one of these young ladies, I wonder, will the bbc be wheeling out from Today to Newsnight, to speak for the nation in months to come?

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Guest
      Soutiam is right..it is the Left Libs that always define people by a characteristics – Black, BAME, Gay. LGBTQWTF, etc..and not as a person with abilities..their problem is they don’t want ability they want diversity at the cost of quality….and separation by characteristic allows them to find an ‘ism’ to throw at anyone not like them.. except for one that they don’t like.. Professionalism

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  23. Guest Who says:

    Snafferknacker best get busy on his CV (bad words warning).

       16 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Is “literally dying” the same as “actually dying” or just “dying”.

         14 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Dyst, in the true fashion, ‘literally dying’ would involve much lying on a chaise longue (or day bed), back of one hand some time resting upon fevered brow, this interspersing bouts of feverish, agonised, scratching on paper with pen or pencil.

           9 likes

      • vesnadog says:

        And is 100 % Free and Free the same?

           0 likes

  24. Dover Sentry says:

    Quote from GW’s link:

    “”People are literally dying because of this kind of shit. “”

    Literally dying???

       13 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      One for ‘Support our Lefty’.

         10 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      R4
      Ms Hussain interrogating Washington Ambassador in UK..she is a piece of work. Taking every opportunity to slag POTUS and get Boris in when she can – not a single positive statement on the potential for the future..

         19 likes

  25. Guest Who says:

    However, to be fair, er…. it is the BBC.

    Tony could go with ‘lack of funding’.

       24 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      Codwalladr, The Guardian and the BBC should be sued for this. There was no attempt to check her rant for facts before publishing.

      It’s even reported now by Reuters.

      Codwalladr has apologised but the damage is done. False accusation and ‘no smoke without fire’ is how the Left/BBC operate.

      Someone like Tice needs to get on the case.

         19 likes

  26. Fedup2 says:

    Toady
    Embarrassing interview by Meeshall with the Ambo of the USA .
    He must have thought “ why send a dummy like this at a time like this who then asks me stuff about the failed UK ambo in Washington ?
    Woody did a job not getting irritated but what a lightweight she is – career advancement against knowledge of issues …shouldn’t she be doing a baking programme with tinned spaghetti or something ?

       20 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, Woody Harrison was very, er … umh…

      … diplomatic and ambassadorial.

      Many people, one a President, and especially lots of Beeboids could learn something from that. I did note that Mishal disinterred Kim Gone-Well. Funny that.

      BBC Agenda?

      What agenda?

         11 likes

  27. Guest Who says:

    So far, beyond each other, one person cares.

       6 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – if you look at the organisations ‘ website – can you guess which state broadcaster is a sponsor ….?

         14 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Toady
        Some overpaid senior copper being interviewed about the promised 20000 community cohesion officers being promised by BoJo .
        Normal stuff about vibrancy diversity heritage community – as well as the need for cops to have degrees – the latest method to be a barrier against ex soldiers becoming coppers .
        So they need 2000? Queers cops and 18500? White cops to reflect the ‘ community ‘ right?

        Won’t happen – hopefully .

           14 likes

        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, do you mean Mr Malthouse, Bojo’s right-hand man on policing on the GLA when Prime Minister Boris Johnson (there, someone’s written it!) was Mayor of London? Between 7.30am and 8.00am?

          Hope he’s not related too closely to Kit Malthouse MP. Apparently, yes. Oh dear! Same person. (Well, it was a difficult night, heat and all that.)

          Good news is that this (may be good, may be unwise) commitment from Boris has already upset the Labour Party. 🙂

          Poor old Diane Abbott.

          Deprived of a cause.

             10 likes

          • Fedup2 says:

            Up2
            D Abbot is up against it now that Priti is Home Secretary – ms Abbot will have to be on top of her brief – in her dreams .

            It all well be academic if the government falls in the first couple of weeks of September …. which will make the timetable for withdrawing A50 – if that is the consequence – really tight .

            Lots of under the radar horse trading across the Commons in the next 5 weeks ….

            The toady interviewee wasn’t mr malt house – I think the chap was from the senior police association or similar …

               8 likes

            • Up2snuff says:

              Fed “ms Abbot will have to be on top of her brief”

              More BBC Home Service Grams FX of things straining and eventually snapping.

              Eeeeeugghhheeeughhh! My brain!

              (The Beeb are already quoting Kit Malthouse from the interview – think they like him because he’s an EU compromiser – he’s Policing Minister under Priti Patel at Home)

                 3 likes

              • Up2snuff says:

                B’pardon, all. Correction: Light Programme not Home Service. Slap on wrist. Cashiered from the Fifth Foot and Mouth – again!

                “Aaaaghhhh!”

                   1 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Does use of the word ‘Trust’ offer a hint?

           3 likes

  28. Dystopian says:

    Not the bbc but….
    Wicked mum gets tougher sentence for allowing repeated rape of her daughter.
    So when are the prosecutions of politicians and police going to take place for allowing Rotherham, Rochdale’s etc daughters to be raped repeatedly?

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9579270/wicked-mum-who-let-husband-rape-her-daughter-from-age-ten-has-sentence-extended-after-outcry-from-family/

       14 likes

  29. digg says:

    BBC with blue on blue story re the headmistress of the Brummie school v Muslims against LGBT relationship lessons.

    It appears that according to the head, the big issue is that the Government is the problem by not her. (The BBC like that one!)

    The resolution to this problem seems to me to be so simple. Opt-in by the parents rather than being forced. Everyone happy! The problem would immediately go away. But no, force fed what they believe seems to be the only way.

       17 likes

    • AsISeeIt says:

      A line from the BBC report gives the game away:

      ‘”It worried me because I felt that it was empowering parents to realise that if you shout and scream outside a school or [there’s] something you don’t agree with, you can stop it, but it also made it look like the school was doing something wrong, which it wasn’t,” added Ms Pulley.’

      Let me translate the sheer anti-democratic entitlement of the remark which goes something like this:

      We the liberal elite apparatchiks know best and we will educate your children in the ways that we think best and if parents think they can influence us in the way that their children are taught they can just shut up and go away. We always will think we get it about right.

      The fact that it is islam versus the gay/trans lobby here and multicultural rubber is now hitting the road is simply hilarious.

         15 likes

  30. Doublethinker says:

    Boris scraps the immigration limit . We may get a points system instead but will it work for us given the pressure from the liberal Globalists for lots of low skilled folk and the desire to dilute Englishness ever more? Is there anyway we can avoid being swamped even further? Can we avoid Islamisation within fifty years?
    It’s hugely depressing and makes the battles over Brexit seem trivial in comparison. At times I can’t see that there is anyway out of this awful future and reflect that I’m pleased but guilty that I won’t be around to see it.
    There are some countries in the EU , we all know them, which are bravely refusing to accept this Islamisation. They are up against France and Belgium which are in a worse state than we are. Perhaps it could be termed the curse of Empire. Germany for baffling reasons is going the same way and Sweden is ten to twenty years ahead of us.
    If we stay in the EU we will only add to the pressure on the resisting nations to cave in and accept migrants because we will side with France et al. If we leave the EU we will accept even more third worlders than at present. It’s all so depressing.we are living through the last decades of England and of Europe.

       28 likes

    • taffman says:

      Usual misguided ploy, import more immigrants – 1 .5 million more votes for Boris in the future and a pool of cheap labour. Its far easier to get into UK illegally than it is legally.
      Take Australia with its points based system, and that’s a vast continent.
      Parliament & MPs are just not listening . We Are Full.
      Its The Brexit Party & UKIP for me .

         32 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Seems optimistic, erring on nuts.

        Magic grandpa will just offer them an ambition to ring fence Birmingham and declare it a no-go zone, and that’s another few mill in the bag.

           10 likes

      • G.W.F. says:

        taffman

        Me too. The appointment of Sajid Javid whose attitude to the far far far right and the likes of Tommy Robinson was my last straw. However, I shall enjoy watching Corbyn being butchered at PMs Questions, but beyond that we get Treezer Part Two.

           13 likes

      • Cassandra says:

        It really is clear that politicians have no idea of what the public wants, or maybe they do.
        Maybe there is a reason for granting amnesty to (at least one million) illegal immigrants and providing easier entry to the UK for yet more third world immigrants.
        Is it to provide a future core voting base for political parties or to weaken and destabilize the existing voters? Thirty years ago many Constituency Labour Parties in English cities were predominantly white, now as in my own local labour Party in Perry Barr in Birmingham, they are predominantly Pakistani Muslim.
        Politicians are aware of high birth rates in ethnic communities and the pressure this places on housing and school places. The NHS is buckling under the strain of trying to cope with the health problems of the new arrivals; not so long ago we thought we had eradicated TB in this country, now, cases are on the increase. Most outbreaks are to be found to be found in areas where asians or east europeans live; Special Schools in the Birmingham, Bradford and Leeds etc are populated with the offspring of first cousin Pakistani Muslim marriages who have severe physical or mental health problems; and In certain cities, black people (the BBC likes to call these criminals ‘disaffected youths’) are responsible for most knife crime (sorry but this IS a fact) and have a high disproportionate representation in the prison system for the size of their population.
        The politicians however and the MSM are protected from the raising of these inconvenient facts publicly because if anyone does, they are immediately labelled ‘racist’.
        So the majority of the public stay quiet.
        The BBC did not report on the mass looting and attacks on shoppers and shop workers in an Aldi store in Birmingham on Wednesday night (the one right over the road from Warwickshire County Cricket Club) by scores of black youths. The Birmingham Mail did but as usual the perpetrators were only described as ‘youths’, although it is clear from the video they are all black:
        https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/watch-moment-crowd-rioting-teenagers-16642365
        If the Conservatives want my vote they’re going to have to produce policies that I believe in

           11 likes

    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      DT,
      Europa, the mentally ill lady who keeps going back to her abuser and by doing so enables her own abuse. If she would be cured of her white-guilt cancer she could then lift her once-beautiful head and stride forward.
      Can Boris or even Nigel see this?

         13 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Well if I hear one more speech that starts with “I am the child of immigrants who came to this country , etc etc etc” – I’ll throw a bloody brick through the tele. I do not need reminding where they come from or their heritage, its plain to see in our everyday life.

         23 likes

      • Demon says:

        Sorry Brissles but I will add to your woes. I am the child of an immigrant (refugee to be exact) who came to this country from Austria, now an EU colony, but I would not be surprised if he had been still alive he would be a staunch Brexiteer. As a child he witnessed what an evil dictatorship led by Germay looked like. I think he would have been able to see how the EU is turning into the 4th Reich. We may not yet have death camps but we do have newspeak training courses and imprisonment for speaking the truth.

           16 likes

        • Deborah says:

          Me too Demon, I am the daughter of immigrants (refugees). But the only time I have ever used the fact was to get on a BBC panel (and it worked).

             8 likes

        • Deborah says:

          Me too Demon, I am the daughter of immigrants (refugees). But the only time I have ever used the fact was to get on a BBC panel (and it worked).

             2 likes

  31. Dover Sentry says:

    Cheer up? Javid is now our deputy Prime Minister. He cannot be demoted as that would be Islamophobic. The only way is up for him.

    interesting that we have a Muslim, a Hindu and a Jew in the Cabinet. Diverse indeed, but will they all get along?

       17 likes

    • theisland says:

      Dover
      I understand Dominic Raab is technically the deputy (Foreign Sec. and First Secretary of State) and not Javid.
      Not that it makes any difference in the great scheme of things.
      I intend to vote For Britain at the first available opportunity – and I don’t care if it’s a ‘wasted’ vote.
      Failing that UKIP. Never Tory again.

         18 likes

      • Demon says:

        At the moment I am a staunch Brexit Party voter, used to vote UKIP. But if Boris does take us out of the EU in a meaningful way then I would have no problem with voting Conservative afterwards.

        In fact if Boris does do as promised then I will feel obliged to lend him my vote as a reward for his actions. It would not obligate me to vote for the Conservatives forever but I feel it would be my duty to say thank you.

        If Boris fails then there will be no point voting Conservative ever again – they would be finished for 100 years like the old Liberal Party. I could never vote “Liberal “Democrat, Labour, Green so all that’s left are pro-democracy parties like UKIP, Brexit Party etc.

           11 likes

    • Banania says:

      The Hindu and the Jew will be ok.

         1 likes

  32. andyjsnape says:

    beeb in their elements..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49116539

    maybe once give Pres Trump credit!
    beeb your not fit for purpose

       10 likes

  33. JamesArthur says:

    Wimmins hour – have Ms Dany Cotton ..fire service – interesting discussion – but no mention of her decision to quit the 200K job ( on nice pension) weeks before the Grenfell enquiry – all her heart felt words but blame everyone else – government, builders etc..she makes huge statements about being responsible for fire fighters etc…but not for her decisions..
    I have to turn radio off as it is all the same old same ole…

       16 likes

    • R P McMurphy says:

      Quota or box ticking appointment, this is the result. Want all the goodies but not the resposibility. And what became of the white males that were much more qualified for the job ?

         6 likes

  34. Doobster78 says:

    Time to see what our resident clown Lammy has been upto !! Lets have a see what’s been eating him this last 48hrs shall we ?

    This is spot on, well said Jack !!!

    Yet again, he really is the gift that just keeps on giving. There are no words.

       30 likes

  35. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Wonderful day, all at the Guardian are lying to themselves, and their captive audience, denying that Brexit can be achieved, or even exists.
    The massed ranks of the ill educated left on display, no arguments, but plenty of indignation.
    The hallowed floors of Mass Murder Central are strewn with millions of feathers and knee deep in toys thrown out of perambulators.

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/23/hard-right-captured-tory-party-boris-johnson-victory-proves-it
    The hard right has captured my old party – and Boris Johnson’s victory proves it
    Anna Soubry

    [Accompanied by a photograph of Sourpuss when she was ten, and sober.
    Whenever an article in the Guardian states that something is “proved” you will find it’s just more nonsense.
    No such party, Sourpuss, you are just another half-witted, lying, Socialist.
    According to the Sourpuss version of history we never voted to leave.]

       21 likes

  36. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    All the tv pundits are saying this new cabinet is a hard right leaver cabinet.
    None have mentioned that there are more who voted remain than those who voted to leave.

       20 likes

    • theisland says:

      Exactly.
      This is a handy thread for looking up voting records.
      https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1132029968429527040.html
      Search alphabetically.

         8 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      EG, quite right and with some nepotism in there as well.

         7 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      It’s very clever how they keep making this misrepresentation that all leavers are right wing. This is despite the fact that many Labour supporters also voted to leave the EU. Does that make them “hard right” too?
      Every time they use Leaver and Far/hard right in the same sentence they need to be called out on it.

         20 likes

      • BRISSLES says:

        I agree Dyst, ‘they’ should speak to my many relatives in S Yorkshire who would never vote Tory if their life depended on it, BUT they all voted leave ! and what was their overriding reason ? immigration. Sorry, but those Momentum geeks need to get a reality check and go talk to those who were born and brought up in the old mining towns, which have now become enclaves for communities of hijabs and mosques, they’ll get a different story to the one in Islington !

           11 likes

        • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

          In Sunderland we have a leave majority of hard right labour voters!

             8 likes

        • Banania says:

          That is why TBP must not allow itself to be identified with the Tories. Any cooperation over putting up candidates in a General Election will have to be very carefully arranged; perhaps with the Tories standing aside from Labour seats in favour of TBP – all for the sake of the main aim, to achieve Brexit.

             0 likes

  37. Dystopian says:

    A nice bit of enrichment at KFC Brixton. Well it serves them right as all their tv advertising is aimed towards effnics init bro! Will the bbc report on this and show the photos? Probably not.

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9588762/moment-woman-hair-rollers-throws-cone-at-kfc-worker-brixton-london/

       9 likes

  38. Up2snuff says:

    WIMMINS HOUR Watch #1

    Listening as Dany Cotton, London Fire Brigade chief is guest Editor. Talks about Grenfell. Is horrified that the cladding that caused extra problems during that fire has not been removed from similar tower blocks and replaced. Obvious target: the Government.

    Less obvious target: the EUNation and the fact that we have not yet gained our independence. If I recall correctly, EU environmental regulation requires that cladding to be in place. Am I wrong in that?

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      So no blood on her hands by telling residents to stay put or not having a plan to tackle a tower block fire – even after 9/11. Or command failing on the night – and that was only the interim finding

      No wonder she’s off . Dickenfiield at hillsborough is still being done but this was another ‘ institutional failure ‘

         13 likes

  39. Guest Who says:

    Bbc speaks for the nation… when it really doesn’t.

       15 likes

  40. Doobster78 says:

    Flying again Jon ?? But what about Climate Change ???? Dear oh dear BBC. Whats that expression again ??? PRACTISE WHAT YOU PREACH !!!

    Hypocrites.

    2 days ago from our trusted broadcaster !!!

       12 likes

    • theisland says:

      jon : ex tory voter ‏@john_jb6368093
      Jul 23 Replying to @BBCNews
      Hopefully the bbc won’t exist in its present format in 18 months

      And so say all of us (with bells on).

         14 likes

  41. Dover Sentry says:

    Daily Mail Online:

    “”Brussels Hits Panic Button””

    “”German Chancellor Angela Merkel has told friends she believes No Deal could create an Iron Curtain-style divide between the EU and UK.””

    “” Mr Johnson’s remarks drew a sharp response from EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier and Jean-Claude Juncker . A call between the EU commission president and Mr Johnson last night ended with no signs of breaking the deadlock – although they did exchange mobile numbers.””

    “”Mr Barnier said the demand to abolish the backstop was ‘unacceptable’ and breached the EU’s negotiating mandate.””

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/home/index.html

    Boris exchanged mobile numbers. Nice touch 🙂

       25 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      What? Mutti is admitting the EUNation is strongly Socialist if not outright Communist?

         3 likes

  42. Thoughtful says:

    https://order-order.com/2019/07/26/caroles-cadwalladrs-latest-miscarriage-justice/

    Following up on the last posting about the harassment of Darren Grimes by the Electoral Services Commission which was found to have vexatiously and wrongly persued Mr Grimes, a tweet was made by the Commission which was an old statement with an update.
    This was misread by the Guardians Carole Cadwalladr who tweeted that Grimes had subsequently been found guilty of a further 2 crimes and referred to the Police.

    This was of course false, but it did not stop the BBC ever eager to stick the knife into vote leave, not bothering to fact check the tweet and reporting it as fact on their breaking news page (since deleted).

    Cadwalladr did after much prevarication admit to her mistake, but not before the remainer media had jumped all over it, and being so eager to report bad news about vote leave, reported false news as fact without even bothering to check.

    Perhaps we might call this leftist privilidge, where your tweets are taken as Gospel truth without the need for checking, whereas other media tweets are taken as false with the need for proof to be produced.

       26 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @LaylaMoran MP for Oxford West & Abingdon
      Retweeted Cadalladr
      and thenwhen the error emerged
      tweeted “Ok. Am told this *isn’t quite right*. An update not new.”
      .. those words are very dishonest.

         9 likes

  43. Doobster78 says:

       25 likes

    • JimS says:

      Sacrement que ce gars-là est épais. Je vais le câlisser dehors š’il continue de même!

      The Québécois have a way with words.

         4 likes

    • Richard Pinder says:

      Reasons to feel at home in Montreal.

      Not under EU rule therefore no Remoaners. The Queen rules and her head is on the coins. A bit like the Channel Islands because its more British than London. The flag of Montreal looks like the flag of England with five emblems on it and the Canadian Red Ensign flies over the Port of Montreal.

         3 likes

  44. StewGreen says:

    Mendoza the editor of the Labour Party’s online newspaper treating BAME people as Labour property

       13 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      This Mendoza woman is clearly a racist she is accusing people of colour of not being people of colour – she is also clearly a bigoted bloody looney? How is this cabinet any of the things she says? Well that’s Labour for you these days

         14 likes

  45. StewGreen says:

    I just logged into Twitter
    and it starts pushing news stories at me
    – anti-Trump etc.
    but then it pushes Stuchbery at me , and the wording says I am seeing it cos I follow BBC Young Reporters
    ..FFS what is the connection between the autistic antifa obsessive and the BBC account ?
    I checked and they never mentioned each other in their tweets.
    It seems Twitter is saying cos you follow BBCYoungReport, we’ll show you the EDUCATION section
    and they put Stuchbery in the Education section, (the Australian was a supply teacher)

       5 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Next thing I spot is Asperger’s Greta is wearing an Antifa
      T-shirt
      (ironic cos he own movement is totalitarian brainwashing like the Hitler Youth)

         19 likes

      • MartinW says:

        That is a malevolent, calculating look. Why the media takes any notice of this delusional child should be baffling, but when it comes to ‘climate change’ anything is grist to the mill.

           8 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Start looking for the signs of the very fashionable self harming, bulimia and anorexia ….

          No kid should be treated as a saviour the way that one has – bound to screw her up if she wasn’t a case before ….

             5 likes

      • Doobster78 says:

        Evil looking little freak that one. Something definitely not right here !!!

           5 likes

      • Banania says:

        She even looks like Hitler Youth.

           2 likes

  46. theisland says:

    Is this just the left stirring it up, or is Cummings BoJo’s Oily?

    https://brexitcentral.com/today/brexit-news-for-friday-26-july/
    Tory Eurosceptics accused Mr Johnson of “binning off” the European Research Group of Brexiteers now that he was in power. They blamed Dominic Cummings, the former head of Vote Leave, who has been appointed the most senior adviser in Downing Street. Mr Cummings has made little secret of his disdain for some members of the ERG, describing them as a “narcissist delusional subset” and a “metastasising tumour” that needs to be “excised”. – The Times (£)

       4 likes

  47. Dover Sentry says:

    Daily Express Online:

    “”BBC BIAS: Labour Brexiteer rages against ‘negative reporting doing our country down’ “”

    “”LABOUR Brexiteer Kate Hoey has taken a swipe at the BBC and other broadcast media for “doing our country down” and urged it to change its tune now Britain has a Brexit-backing Government.””

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1158085/bbc-bias-brexit-latest-news-kate-hoey-bbc-bias-labour-brexiteer

    Some hope of that…. 🙁

       16 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      DS, good for Kate. She’s a star!

      Everyone (on Remain & at the Beeb) look at Bojo as being key for the Leave Campaign but I reckon it was Gisela Stuart and Kate Hoey and Frank Field (on the Labour side) and Jacob Rees-Mogg and Steve Hilton and a couple of others (from the Conservatives) who really drove things along.

         11 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Afterthought: I should have added this:

        Divided country? Campaign to leave the EUNation was anything but divided.

        It brought together political opponents from the House of Commons and elsewhere.

           0 likes

  48. Up2snuff says:

    WIMMINS HOUR Watch #2

    Dany Cotton was not averse to using the phrases “Lessons will be learned.” or “Lessons will have to be learned.” and managed one or other several times in just the first fifteen minutes of the programme. At least it fully calibrated my Bullshit Meter for a later retail encounter.

       8 likes

  49. andyjsnape says:

    will the beeb stop going on about the Irish border!

    if the eu want a border, build 1 or do 1

       13 likes