Midweek Open Thread 17 July 2019

The Far Left Failing Biased BBC keeps on giving doesn’t it ? It doesn’t even pretend to be neutral any more . There is just one ‘approved ‘ story ;facts which don’t fit the narrative are minimised or ignored . And people are forced to pay for it .

And if you think the MPs see it as biased – think again – the link below is to the debate on the useless petition about BBC bias

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-07-15/debates/AF16A1B4-E52D-46BC-9EEF-555F504FD7B2/BBC

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538 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 17 July 2019

  1. Cassandra says:

    The BBC was today blasted for its ‘deeply upsetting’ plan to send squads of TV licence fee ‘police’ to pensioners’ homes to demand they pay the annual £154.40 fee. A BBC spokeswoman said, “Outreach teams will chase those who fail to pay ‘as sympathetically as possible’.

    Listening to this, I was suddenly reminded of ‘The Bottom Inspectors’ that used to appear in Viz, many years ago.

    Ah, the BBC…oh well, never one to avoid kicking a man when he is down…

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    • Absolute Shower says:

      I used to like “The Modern Family”, “Farmer Palmer” and “Thieving Gypsy Bastards”, but they had to stop using that one because it was “rascist”!

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    • Dave S says:

      I doubt this will happen. The Tories will stop it and the BBC will have to give in. Politics as usual.

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  2. soyelcaminodelfuturo says:

    Staggering and blatant bias by Joanna Gosling (Victoria Derbyshire) on Donald Trump’s tweetgate. The general impression she gave was that he had said that they (the four women) “…should go back”. She then goes on to read the entire tweet verbatim. Here is the complete tweet.

    So interesting to see “Progressive” Democrat Congresswomen, who originally came from countries whose governments are a complete and total catastrophe, the worst, most corrupt and inept anywhere in the world (if they even have a functioning government at all), now loudly……

    ….and viciously telling the people of the United States, the greatest and most powerful Nation on earth, how our government is to be run. Why don’t they go back and help fix the totally broken and crime infested places from which they came. Then come back and show us how….

    But guess which sentence she did not read.. the last sentence which reads “Then come back and show us how”.

    The BBC peddles the lie that he tweeted that they should leave. It would be demonstrably accurate instead to have explained that he had said they should see if their absurd ideology works in the broken countries of their origin and then come back and show us how. But let’s not let the facts get in the way of an opportunity to shout “racist” at the Donald.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      I think State Broadcaster took a view to omit ‘come back’ from all its output from Breakfast to This Week.

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    • vesnadog says:

      soy,

      “But guess which sentence she did not read.. the last sentence which reads “Then come back and show us how”.”

      Don’t worry, the licence payers of this wonderful nation have well and truly cottoned-on to the BBCs tricky deceits.

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  3. s.trubble says:

    Just how many of these bBC outreach polis is the bBc intending to hire?

    Up to 3.5 million doors to be knocked is a lot of doors………and what might be behind them could throw up some challenges

    e.g

    Knock Knock

    Whit?

    bBC OutreaCH – CAN WE COME IN?

    Well – D’ye like sex?

    Aye

    Dye like Travel

    Aye Aye

    Well go and get **ucked.

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  4. JamesArthur says:

    I listened to R4 Moon in car – which is quite good except for the still childish voice over..just spoils it..
    Sat down switched R4 on in the hope something good on and it is some form of ‘comedy’ a strange form – it isn’t funny…it isn’t even clever but the canned laughter must keep them going.

    Jesus they think they can compete with Netflix…

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  5. Fedup2 says:

    James
    Apparently the coming ‘britbox’ will cost £5.99 a month for something people have already paid for through the TV Tax .

    I bet the take up figures will either not be published ( for ‘commercial reasons ‘ the term used to cover up thing people won’t like ) or just be falsified .
    The number of subscriptions taken up by ‘public bodies ‘ and MPs will also be interesting .

    On the upside – perhaps this will be the first nail in the coffin of the TV tax – but in reality – how many people would choose to pay for the BBC instead of the likes of Netflix, amazon and the other platforms coming along ….

    Even the name britbox is insulting to me . I think the IRA populised the term ‘brit’ in their propaganda campaign with their cursed political wing – now its being used by the British Broadcasting Collective.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Fedup
      Agree – why should we pay for something we have already funded and if they do make money will it go back into BBC to reduce licence fee?
      No of course not – it will go into their commercial arm – lost to the public.
      I think they are hoping the Americans will pay for it…fat chance

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  6. Guest Who says:

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/07/19/bbc-meet-extinction-rebellion-to-discuss-editorial-coverage/

    Doubtless guided by BBC editorial integrity on what and who is pushed uncritically ad nauseam and who or what is ignored or misrepresented.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      This extract from GW’s link has a couple of interesting BBC job-titles:

      “”The BBC will be represented by Controller of Factual Commissioning Alison Kirkham; Head of Specialist Factual and Natural History Commissioning Tom McDonald; “”

      BBC oxymorons?

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      • Richard Pinder says:

        Alison Kirkham, BBC Controller of Factual Commissioning.

        This is what George Orwell said about controlling the facts.

        If you can make people believe that “two and two is five”, then facts no longer exist, and people will believe whatever you say. Winston said “There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the whole world, you were not mad.” Except that holding onto truth makes you mad in the eyes of the state.

        Or in other words

        If the BBC can make people believe that “two and two Kelvin is five Kelvin”, then facts no longer exist, and people will believe whatever the BBC says. Richard said “There was truth and there was untruth, and if you clung to the truth even against the consensus, you were not mad.” Except that holding onto truth makes you mad in the eyes of the BBC.

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  7. Dystopian says:

    I see Sajid Javid has jumped on the Trump Bashing bandwagon and has stated “Imagine if someone said about me “send him back”.

    President Trump never said send anyone back anywhere.
    He told them they could choose to go back.
    He had no control over the people chanting “send them back”.
    Fake news and Sajid Javid probably knows full well.
    Any opportunity to make Muslims victims when it wasn’t even a Muslim issue.
    Boris needs to send him packing never mind sending him back.

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    • soyelcaminodelfuturo says:

      Javid is associating ‘so-called’ far right extremism with Islamic terrorism. That’s fine except for the fact that Islamic terrorism is happening on an industrial scale and globally. Not so with the right wing, unless you could hurty feelings on Twitter and someone pretending to be outraged about something someone might have thought about something someone said.

      All this ramping of hate crime is a prelude to totalitarianism.

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    • theisland says:

      Javid must go

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      • Dave S says:

        Not surprised. The Tories are scared stiff. They need a pact to win the next election . Something tells me one is in the offing .

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      • Guest Who says:

        ‘We must act now’.

        Nothing to worry about there.

        At all.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Javid Savid is playing a long term game. Be nice to Farage now he has dropped his criticism of Islam and distanced himself from the far far far right. Get Boris out of the way after a media campaign destroys his role as PM. Savid then emerges as the BBC and Establishment choice, and bingo, on with the immigration and suppression of the far far far right criticism of his kind.

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        • soyelcaminodelfuturo says:

          G.W.F. – good point re his comments on Farage, there was no reason to make them other that strategic positioning.

          I have always seen Javid as the potential shoo in for PM on account of his religion. The “nasty party” virtue signals its continued existence whilst betraying its core Conservative values. The democratic process will ultimately deliver an anti-democratic ideologically driven regime in the UK, it is a demographic certainty.

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  8. JamesArthur says:

    Soyel..

    When will these people realise that the public have seen through them?
    Facts speak louder than words and it doesn’t matter how much they say Right wing terrorism is the greatest threat when nobody has been killed by Right wing extremists.
    We are all fed up with being told we are an ‘ist’ with every word we utter and listening to the constantly offended brigade…and where are the Far Left in all these pronouncements – never heard it on BBC

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  9. StewGreen says:

    Sunny = Climate change
    Rainy = Climate change
    Warmer = Climate change
    Colder = Climate change

    Extinction Rebellion London (⧖) tweeted
    The rain is a sign of things to come.
    The climate emergency is upon us.
    So we call for action. Rain or shine. #ExtinctionRebellion #SummerUprising

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  10. soyelcaminodelfuturo says:

    Beardy Branson is concerned about the so-called climate emergency. In an exclusive interview with the BBC he tells us that we all need to do something about it. Somehow the irony escapes critique when in the next sentence he is asked about his space ambitions. He hopes to go into space in a matter of months. Leaving aside that the entire CO2 contribution to climate change is a monumental scam and myth (other opinions are available) wouldn’t he better serve the ideology of the alarmists by not going into space?

    Asked about air travel (which I happen to agree is a modern necessity, forget about persuading people not to fly) he says all airlines need to do their bit. He explains that Virgin is doing its bit by encouraging aerospace manufacturers to use more ecological materials in the production of aircraft. No problem with fuel though, even though a 747 uses four litres per second. That’s over twenty thousand gallons (in Queen’s English) of fuel to go from London to Necker Island – it’s his birthday today and he’s off to his island tonight. The Department of Transport says that private cars averaged 7900 miles in 2015. Quite happy to tell us, via the BBC, that we all need to do our bit, probably by buying a bicycle, and then pumping twice as much CO2 into the atmosphere in one birthday trip than two ‘plebs’ do in a year. I don’t know how much fuel his rocket will use but a Saturn V rocket needs 770 000 litres of kerosene to get into orbit. Again, I support the idea of space exploration but this is vanity.

    Oh yes, and according to Branson, no-deal bad. No deal means disaster for the economy. BBC boxes properly ticked in one interview. Happy birthday Dick.

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    • Old Goat says:

      “Do our bit”? To what purpose, exactly? To prorogue a changing climate (to coin a current phrase)? It’s going to continue changing, whether or not we approve. If we were all to die tomorrow, the climate would continue to change in its own time. I do wish these holier-than-thou hypocrites would shut their collective faces, and desist from telling us what to do, and what not to do.

      They know it’s a scam – anyone with half a brain knows, but they think that we will willingly submit to alarmism and fearmongering over a non-event, and especially one which is purported to be an “emergency”n and just keep quiet and do as we’re told. I wish we could fight back, I really do – but our only recourse is to deliberately use the services and products that they disapprove of, with abandon. The problem with that, of course, is that it costs US an arm and a leg, and them nothing.

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      • soyelcaminodelfuturo says:

        Unfortunately, as the non-Brexit process shows, the establishment doesn’t need our consent to spend our money. Treason May simply announced the pointless, unachievable, dangerous and monumentally expensive carbon neutral goal and it was voted through without challenge, debate or scrutiny. This is the new reality of our so-called democracy.

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  11. Jeff says:

    As we all know Tommy Robinson has been found guilty of contempt of court. At the moment he’s still in Britain’s most notorious terrorist nick, where only the very worst offenders end up. This is where they put bombers, sex offenders and serial killers.
    It’s been argued that this situation will change when a place becomes available elsewhere. Hmmm…
    I find this argument difficult to swallow. Although he’s high profile, in the broad scheme of things, this is a relatively minor offence. It’s not a bloody murder charge and no-one’s been hurt.
    Undoubtedly due to the religion and nature of a huge number of the inmates he’ll, once again, have to spend his time in solitary confinement.
    I don’t think he’s been treated fairly and the great and the good are queuing up to condemn him.

    I was hoping we might hear something from Cherie Blair. In 2010, when sentencing a defendant, Shamso Miah, for assault, she announced that she would suspend his prison sentence after describing him as a “religious man.” Just out of interest Shamso had broken a man’s jaw following a row…
    In 2015 she defended Rwandan spy Emmanuel Karenzi Karake against accusations that he had conspired to murder three Spanish NGO workers and a Canadian priest. A real charmer!

    So far not a single human rights lawyers has come forward to offer their services to Mr Robinson.
    There’s a surprise…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Jeff
      Ezra has said that he is to visit TR in belmarsh this coming Tuesday . I still take the view that they’ll leave him in Belmarsh and when attention dies down a bit there’ll be a security lapse caused by understaffing ….
      Ezra says he ll report on conditions after the visit . I suppose the BBC will hold on the hit piece on Panorama with Sweeney until the appeal process is ended. …

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      • Spiderman says:

        Ezra has also said he’ll come over every week to see Tommy, if necessary.

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  12. JamesArthur says:

    TWATO
    Trump bad – how often will they misquote him
    Brexit bad – Hammond good
    Javid good – Right wing bad – not a mention of Islam directly
    NHS poor consultants have breached their £1m pension pot. What none of these consultants say is that they don’t do a 40 hr week ( but do over time at extra cost and locum work) and earn money off the back of NHS in private practice..one even said one of her friends was selling her house – probably buying bigger one.
    Why do I not feel sorry for them on the gold plated NHS pension?
    The BBC rarely dig into the real reasons, preferring to play a narrative…oh so transparent

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  13. G says:

    R4 News @ 1300: on with the pips; off 1310. Just to hear our bigot Home Secretary doubling as mouthpiece for the Muslim Council is enough. The rise in extremism he says. Problem is, Mr Mouthpiece, the bulk of the population are not in agreement with you that the UK needs many millions more immigrants, particularly from Africa and the Middle East as you set out a couple of weeks ago –

    And, day by day, week by week, you, Mr Mouthpiece and people like you are responsible for the erosion of the rights of the indigenous Brits to object. You, Mr Mouthpiece along with others that infest the Commons and Lords, are pushing the British population on and on toward the only action they can take to resist the ongoing invasion. And, when it happens, you’ll cry, “We didn’t understand”, that, when you turn the Army and SWAT teams on the people. Your, ‘enforcers’ that are about to receive a large pay increase……..
    Me? I would welcome that day because it has to be sorted one way or another – soon.

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  14. Fedup2 says:

    Good old Wahhabi s infiltrating ‘ running the NUJ – makes sense if one sees the stepping process of taking over ..

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  15. Guest Who says:

    #CCBGB

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      They have three months to get the paperwork. And for all they know, Brexit could be cancelled or put back ten years for a People’s Vote.

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    • soyelcaminodelfuturo says:

      Anyone who’s spent time driving on the continent knows that there is one UK registered HGV for every thousand continental trucks. We simply don’t export enough for this empty threat to have any meaning to British companies.

      I know that DFDS won’t allow me to board a ferry if I haven’t bought a ticket and brought my passport. Guess what, I generally try to make sure that I have before entering the port.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    classic : Green-dogmatist is so accustomed to dehumanising political opponents by comparing them to Nazi-supporters that he doesn’t know he’s doing it
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  17. StewGreen says:

    So why in the UK do we get wall to wall DramaGreens
    .. but no TV counterview, cos SkyUk was persuaded to drop FoxNews rebroadcasts ?
    Jul 18, 2019 Tucker Carlson – Climate Change Wasn’t About the Environment At All

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    • soyelcaminodelfuturo says:

      Stew – I thought I’d seen the depth of this woman’s insanity, nop.

      “The world is going to end in 12 years”.

      Crikey.

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      • JamesArthur says:

        Hilarious…12 years…made me laugh her writer who lied was Chakrabarti. Ring any bells – we have our own over here who writes misleading reports…

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  18. fakenewswatcher says:

    ‘Business Insider’ goes into full-blown anti-Boris mode, claiming that Mr Johnson had asked whether Ms Merkel had been in the Stasi.
    This is intended to be another black mark against Boris, but it is an entirely reasonable question.
    I have been studying the astonishing Merkel rise to fame (her real name was Kasner) for some time, and recognised a skillful layer (Merkel/Kasner) of smoke and mirrors, slipperier than an eel, who would have done Le Carre proud. Her net worth:11.5 million dollars
    Guenther Lachmann (ex “Welt”) and Ralf Georg (ex-“BILD”) did a lot of research for a biography of Merkel. “The first life of Angela Merkel”, which sees her as being secretary for Agitprop in the SED-related “Free German Youth”.
    They are merely a few of many.
    Looking at what she has been up to since she became Chancellor, I’d say Boris asked an entirely logical and legitimate question…
    Of course, the anti-Boris campaign is now in full swing, and a marvel to behold!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Fake
      Funny I just assumed that Merkel would have been a member of the communist party / stazi . Membership gave all the advantages to make life that more comfortable – better home , job , education , health care , pension . You’d be insane not to join up .
      I take it Merkel had Parkinson’s or similar disorder . No friend of us .

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Fedup – Merkel (whose real name is Kasner) wouldn’t be about to admit to Parkinson’s, even if she had it. She will do nothing to cut short her grip on power, having recently elevated two of her buddies into important political offices; lots more damage to be done.
        She would certainly have come out at the top of the SED (Communist) in the former GDR, had that survived. My own feeling is that she is a very Green socialist, who -had she been genuine in Germnay post 1989- would have joined the Greens. (She has also recently developed into a strong Feminist.) But for her, the most promising route to power is what counts, and they weren’t it.
        She is an extremely shrewd/cunning politician, utterly ruthless, and currently doing all the national anthem stuff in a sitting position. ‘Her people’ don’t seem to mind the humiliation. But then, for many years they’ve entrusted her with the cheque book, and she’s ‘gone to town’. She couldn’t give two hoots. Whatever it takes.

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      • vesnadog says:

        Fed,

        “Funny I just assumed that Merkel would have been a member of the communist party / stazi”

        Although I’ll bet she’s ditched her L pill ages ago.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    video
    Electric mini-digger “Zero emissions M.. A….”

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  20. JamesArthur says:

    Two Brexiteers found guilty of calling Anna Soubry a Nazi and Traitor and will be sentenced next week…no throwing of fluid just words..now how hard do you think they will be treated compared to the chap who threw milkshake at Nigel?
    Harder I bet, because ‘names break bones and sticks and stones never will’ – oh sorry it is around the other way in Lefty land.
    The BBC just said Sourberry was surrounded by Brexiteers but the video doesn’t show that at all – she was surrounded by police unless I missed something…

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    • Jeff says:

      I wonder what would happen if some BBC comedian joked that instead of hurling abuse at Soubry they hurled battery acid?
      It’s never going to happen, is it?

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  21. StewGreen says:

    @BrianOfLondon
    “Podcast asks why Somali families aren’t in jail for 2016 contempt like [redacted]”

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  22. StewGreen says:

    James Goddard in court pleads guilty
    His fellow defendant at Westminster Magistrates Court, Brian Phillips, 55, from Kent, also pleaded guilty to causing alarm and distress using threatening or abusive language.
    Both men were released on bail ahead of sentencing on Monday afternoon.

    AFAIK he had been in prison for some weeks after breaching bail conditions.

    The court heard Ms Soubry was left “very shaken” after her TV interview was interrupted by shouts from protesters on 7 January this year.
    They must have dropped a charge cos there were 3 before
    – “harassed” Soubry
    – Racial harassment cos Said to a Czech born policeman , ‘why are you here ?’

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    • StewGreen says:

      “CPS have said they will accept a guilty plea to racially aggravated public order offence against a police officer and a public order offence against Anna Soubry.”

      \\ However the defendant is considerably agitated by the presence of Chief Magistrate Emma Arbuthnot on the bench. “Say what I told you to say”, he tells his lawyer. “Her husband is a Tory MP who is against No Deal Brexit”. Goddard wants her removed from his case.
      Judge tells him:
      “As it happens I don’t know Anna Soubry, we don’t know any of the witnesses in this case, otherwise I wouldn’t be sitting here.”
      She adds: “I didn’t see the original news items.” //

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      • Fedup2 says:

        The State does enjoy the process of crushing dissent doesn’t it. ? Tell an MP what you think of them – in the presence of police who do nothing – and you’ll get the full force of punitive bail conditions followed a long while later by a courtesy prosecution in front of a potentially biased judge . ( see TR too )

        I wonder if they’ll open a separate Wing in Belmarshistan for Political Prisoners .

        Yet – climate protesters get a free pass enabling city centres to be screwed up and sons not being able to be with their parent as they die .
        Something is going wrong .

        But at least The Sun is telling the general public about the bias of the BBC with regard to Brexit

        And a judge had ruled the the corrupt biased Electoral Commission wronglg prosecuted , crushed and fined an individual Brexit campaigner .
        They’ll use tax payers cash to appeal – betcha

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        • StewGreen says:

          Why do news reports not quote and context the alleged “cacial abuse of an officer”
          Various tweets say he said it to an Asian officer or to a black officer”
          There is a 15 second video but no officers face is there, rather it looks like the very end of a long pushing back of Goddard and those are his walking way words .. just like someone says in frustration “shut up fatty”
          It certainly is not like Goddard open with a long stream of racial abuse or something
          The words we hear are “If you want a war I’ll give you a war” “you ain’t even British”
          .. that could be he knows the officer is foreign or has a foreign accent etc.

          It was reported as “a Lithuanian Police Officer ” by
          https://www.politicalite.com/exclusive/james-goddard-why-hasnt-david-lammy-been-arrested-for-calling-mps-nazis/

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          • StewGreen says:

            Maybe an EU officer not a British officer
            Some EU seconded officers wear a non-British flags on their lapel
            On an earlier occasion Dec 2018 Goddard was ordered by 2 female tourist police to get down from a wall
            He replies “I don’t take orders from foreigners”
            “I am here working pay taxes like everyone else” so please get down ?’
            https://www.newsflare.com/video/268616/politics-business/moment-yellow-vest-protester-james-goddard-tells-met-police-officer-i-dont-take-orders-from-foreigners
            I asked Casciani

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          • StewGreen says:

            The oficer is named by the Independent
            \\ When PC Mindaugas Sciukas responded
            “I’m not deaf, there’s no need to shout at me”,
            Goddard shouted:
            “You ain’t even f***ing British.”//

            It still doesn’t make it clear that the officer is not British and had only been in the UK 2 years

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  23. StewGreen says:

    Ezra is Live now
    I wound the video back and doubled the speed so I can catch up.

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  24. JamesArthur says:

    R4 news – “Donald Trump obviously racist” the presenters throughout today pushing and pushing everyone today to call POTUS a racist..pathetic especially as nobody agreed..
    BBC is a disgrace ..and still haven’t played the full quote

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      James – you should have heard the toxic Evan Davis (R4) trying to publicly bully/browbeat Nad Zahawi into admitting that the Conservative party was full of ‘racists’ (having finished his anti-Trump duties). It was a thing to behold…
      I think we are currently seeing R4 swinging way over to the ‘left’, in the face of Boris taking over. The ‘impartiality’ narrative is being ditched, big time. The lunchtime Mardell theme was that Javid should become Chancellor, so that’s the plan…
      True arrogance knows no bounds.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    Bbc justice warriors all over this?

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  26. pugnazious says:

    Yet another Brexit campaign court victory against the Electoral Commission which has proved itself incompetent and biased.

    However the BBC isn’t prepared to concede to the court’s judgement…they have their own ideas as you can see from a very, very grudging report on Darren Grimes….mostly listing the supposed crimes he and Vote Leave committed….note not a word about the judgement and reasons for the court’s decision.

    The first sentence is the only clue that might let the reader know he is innocent…miss that out and you’d think it was a crime report telling us he was being locked up for 20 years for stealing Brexit.

    ‘The founder of the youth-focused pro-Brexit campaign group BeLeave has won his appeal against a £20,000 fine imposed by the elections regulator.’

    And that’s it folks!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49048431

    Interesting what else they miss out…

    Here’s what they quote Grimes as saying…

    ‘Responding to the success of his appeal, at the Mayor’s and City of London Court, Mr Grimes tweeted that he was “delighted and relieved”, adding that the case had “taken a huge toll on myself and my family”.

    He added: “It’s vital that more young people are encouraged to get involved in politics and make their voices heard.

    “I just hope that the punitive actions of the Electoral Commission don’t put my generation off engaging in our democracy.”‘

    Here’s what Guido reports…..

    ‘There has been a well- funded, coordinated campaign against me and those that have stood up to the Remain Establishment. Well today they have lost. I just hope that their attempts to overturn our democratic structures don’t put more people off from getting involved in politics. It is vital that people from my generation get involved in democracy and help shape the future of our country. I hope the Electoral Commission’s actions do not put young people off from engaging in politics.’

    How could the BBC miss out the bit about the Remain Establishment trying to overturn democracy? If he’d been black or Muslim he’d have had an extensive interview about the injustices and racism of the British system and how they are trying to crush democracy and the representation of minority voices. Where are the BBC strident demands to know why the Electoral Commission is failing so badly and why it has targeted certain groups whilst blatantly failing to tackle similar alleged rule breaking by others? Is the Electoral Commission broken, is it prejudiced, is it a threat to our democratic process in its utter failure to deal with the referendum in a fair and equitable manner given the crucial role it plays in our democracy?

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    • StewGreen says:

      Lots on Twitter point out @bbBreaking tweets the Goddard conviction story
      ..but NOT the Grimes appeal win
      neither does @bbcNews tweets the Grimes appeal win

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  27. BRISSLES says:

    “Police Appeal for Witnesses” – (Stevenage 2 car crash last night)so says the headlines in the 7pm news.

    Well, how many more do they want ? according to other news reports they have 130 witness statements so far. Can the population of Stevenage please form an orderly queue, as the local police don’t really trust the views of those 130 already interviewed. 🙂

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  28. pugnazious says:

    Codswallop trying to cover her tracks and deny she ever persecuted Grimes…

    Trouble is she constantly attacked Grimes and in one case claimed he had no morals or values…

    ‘The Electoral Commission has already found that both Vote Leave and Darren Grimes broke electoral law. And of course if you don’t value the law, then it makes sense that you don’t value the morals and values that underpin those laws. ‘

    Of course he hadn’t broken the law…we knew that even before the court case as it was clearly an admin slip up that the Electoral Commission itself had previously decided not to challenge as it was a clear mistake. Grimes’ actions would have been ‘legal’ had he ticked the right box….Codswallop has tried to portray him as both too stupid and naive to know what he was doing, and thus open to exploitation by the evil Brexit puppermasters, or he is a mendacious and immoral crook. Even in this tweet she still has go at him when he is obviously far more intelligent, able and probably moral than the Codswallop herself. What she fails to mention in all her huffing and puffing over the years is that Grimes self-started on his pro-Brexit campaign and he went to Vote Leave for donations not they to him…and they handed over hundreds of thousands of pounds to someone they hardly knew….who ‘exploited’ who?

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    • Guest Who says:

      This may see the bbc appearances pause for a week.

      Except Newsnight. After BIJ they are past caring.

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  29. taffman says:

    \\Iran ‘seizes British-flagged oil tanker’//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49053383
    This was on the cards .
    Where is our Royal Navy ?
    A bit late Mr Hunt ? …………………
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/07/11/jeremy-hunt-promises-spending-royal-navy-boost-hard-power-response

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Taffman
      Looks like fate has given Mrs May a headache to leave office with – hostages and piracy . We ll find out how strong and stable she is . Unless – of course – the report is a bit over egged .

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      er….what Royal Navy? The Mary Rose is almost sea-worthy. Well, one half is.

      The Royal Navy was formed to protect our Merchant Fleet. Something’s gone wrong, minister. Very wrong.

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      • taffman says:

        Who will Great Britain rely on for support, the EU Defence Force or NATO ?

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        • taffman says:

          \\Donald Trump: Boris Johnson ‘will do a great job as PM’//
          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49052373
          Looks like our special relationship with the USA is still there.

          Not one ship but two .
          The POTUS is also backing us in this maritime crisis. Have Al Beeb reported that yet ?
          Now, where is the EU………… ?

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Treezer is probably working on a compromise – pay off the Iranians, blame Trump for the trouble and thus present the ayatollahs in a favourable light

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    • taffman says:

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49041014
      Does our Home Secretary want to end Great Britain’s longstanding tradition of ‘Freedom of Speech ‘ ?
      Will he be having a word with Boris about letter boxes ?

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      • Oaknash says:

        Quite likely – the swamp in action
        This all dovetails rather conveniently with Treacherous Theresas signing last year of the UN ” Migration Compact” and of course Javid (who did rather nicely thanks to an education which we all helped pay for) is setting himself up as the smiling “assassin” who will teach all of us old racists a lesson we wont forget.

        I am sorry Savid you were told to go back home at school or whatever – but kids are always nasty and have probably all grown up now – just a pity you have not.

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  30. vesnadog says:

    Not BBC but I bet they know all about it.

    Note: its a report by FOX TV:

    “Planned Parenthood president ousted after just 8 months on the job”

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/planned-parenthood-president-ousted-after-just-8-months-on-the-job-reports-say

    Apparently, she wasn’t killing enough babies.

    Why do they call their name “Planned Parenthood”?

    Shouldn’t it be called “Planned Abortions”?

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  31. Up2snuff says:

    a somewhat delayed TWatO Watch #1 and only

    Bizarrely, TWatO covered the centenary of the Luton Riot where returned servicemen were excluded from celebrations for the end of WW1.

    Strange that Radio4 completely missed the centenary of the signing of the Treaty of Versailles which ended World War One but remembered and commemorated that event in Luton.

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  32. Up2snuff says:

    Have been listening to Any Questions on R4. (8.02 pm on)

    Just discovered there’s a stacked audience.

    Off switch in protest.

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    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Up2snuff, I agree with you … and I listen to this exercise in pseudo-democracy less and less. “Any Answers” is better, though not perfect, because there’s more balance thanks to the callers. ‘Thoughtful’, who posts here, has been on it at least twice!

      I think “Any Questions” would be better without an audience. Modern communications mean that people could send in questions by e-mail or text or even phone them in to a call-handling facility.

      The panel could then have a civilized discussion and time would not be wasted on applause from organized ‘claques’ strategically positioned near to the microphones. The temptation for panel members to play to the gallery (of noisy Leftists) would also be reduced. The intimidation of those with unfashionable conservative views might be reduced.

      Some audiences are better than others and J Dimbleby did once admit that they can be biased because, unlike “Question Time” on TV, it’s a case of ‘first come, first serve’ rather than a (scientifically?) selected studio audience. J Dimbleby has now gone but the format needs a shake up.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Mustapha, long time no read. Welcome back. I often found with Any Answers, pre-Anita Anand, that the listeners contributions were better than those of the Panel. Guess that would be the case, esp. if Thoughtful was involved.

        The Dimbleby used to apologise on a regular basis for ‘stacked’ audiences but I think the Beeb were not to unhappy at the bias in the applause.

        You have a good idea there. It would certainly suit a NetZero lifestyle for the UK. No need to travel a Chair, Panel, engineers and audience around the UK.

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      • Banania says:

        I gave up AQ when some of the audiences started shrieking. I wonder if any one has managed to stope them doing it.

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  33. Up2snuff says:

    There’s a dangerous heatwave coming for a part of the globe, this unnamed BBC author tells us.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49049378

    Temperatures are expected to hit 40°C (104°F) this weekend.

    I have news for the BBC. Temperatures of 45°C+ are routine for the Midwest and southern Central Canada in summer. In winter in those locations, temperatures are equally excessively low. Across the whole USA even more so. This chart, courtesy of Wiki is rather revealing about AGW, CC, etc..
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._state_temperature_extremes

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  34. Foscari says:

    I expect the BBC will be at the best neutral over the oil tanker being
    “taken” by Iran. But it wouldn’t surprise me if they actually
    supported Iran.

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    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Remember “I counted them out and I counted them back” during the Falklands War, after a certain air raid?

      My free translation: Message to the Argentine Junta – try harder next time, you didn’t score any hits and it might undermine Thatcher if you do manage to do so.

      The BBC loves Britain’s enemies; balance and impartiality are in the BBC’s DNA, after all.

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      • vesnadog says:

        M,

        “The BBC loves Britain’s enemies; balance and impartiality are in the BBC’s DNA, after all. ”

        What do you expect from that shower!

        The BBC employ “activists” NOT “journalists”.

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  35. Thoughtful says:

    BBC proms, four presenters one is white, here are the others:

    KwameRyan20171020130027.jpg&h=228&w=200

    http://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/1197B/production/_97695027_gettyimages-683865118.jpg

    http://www.kannehmasons.com/site/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/86A9478-768×960.jpg

    The BBC are calling it the ‘revamped’ proms, so not the proms at all then ?

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Nice to see the image inserts are working well as usual !

         3 likes

    • Oaknash says:

      Oh goody the proms!
      I cant wait to hear Stormzies rendition of “Finlandia”

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Thoughtful are you suggesting that the BBC has some kind of obsessions with the Kanneh Mason’s ?

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    • StewGreen says:

      10 Presenters, 4 are non-white
      Old : Katie Derham, Suzy Klein and Tom Service
      – New : Jess Gillam 20, star of the 2018 Last Night of the Proms joins the BBC Proms television presenting line-up alongside
      : Clara Amfo, Cerys Matthews, Isata Kanneh Mason* and Kwame Ryan (photo above)
      Returners : Danielle de Niese and Petroc Trelawny
      Clara Amfo
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      Danielle de Niese
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      * Isata Kanneh-Mason to make her TV presenting debut on the Prom in which her brother, Royal wedding cellist Sheku Kanneh-Mason is the soloist in Elgar’s Cello Concerto
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  36. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Labour MP Emily Thornberry taken to hospital after bicycle accident””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49046447

    Road closed for resurfacing overnight.

       31 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Was it a Boris Bike ?! Can we somehow blame BoJo for the accident ?

         17 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Lady Nugent knocked of her bike
      it was the Iranians they mistook her for an oil tanker

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  37. fakenewswatcher says:

    While the Iranians nab a British tanker, the bbc presents ‘Any Questions?’ in Melton. The predictable bias runs riot: the first two questions are attempts to denigrate and connect Trump and Boris. The beeb has somehow managed to locate lefty questioners (surprise?) and a howling, lefty mob for an audience. In Melton & Rutland, apparently 56% LEAVE!!! Only the bbc could manage that!
    Needless to say, all 4 panellists hasten to assure us they think Trump is a racist. The loud-mouthed stars of the show are Jess Phillips (Lab) and somebody Wishart SNP.
    Question 3 is a further attempt to discredit the Tories: OBR pessimism. Phillips is having a field day.
    When it comes to figuring out why there are a high level of child mental health problems, the two stars suddenly turn out to be clueless. As soon as anything slightly more deep and complex arrives, their loud-mouthed, self-assured and superficial sloganeering runs dry.
    Meanwhile, the tanker floats away into the sunset…
    NO QUESTIONS.

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    • taffman says:

      fakenewswatcher
      Its two tankers.
      No worry, our ally Trump is backing us. Well done Donald I say . Trump comes up Trumps!
      Where was Mrs Chamberlain and our Secretary of State For Defence ?

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        taffman- your question would have been too difficult for the luvvies gathered at Melton, i suspect!

        (Past governments may also have found ‘defence’ to be not trendy and also uncool. Not focused on ‘inequality’, ‘diversity’ and ‘social justice’ loud enough. Not enough ‘openness’ and ‘tolerance’! So they neglected it. No prizes for guessing that THAT will come back to bite you in the posterior, big time, what with not EVERYONE being quite so wild about tolerance…)

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      • Thoughtful says:

        Of course Trump is backing ‘us’ he would back anyone who Saudi told him to back, it’s that simple. Meanwhile Boris who has been compromised by the Iranians remains silent on the issue

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  38. StewGreen says:

    Unite Union people issuing “more than yogurt threats against Farage for when he comes to Dundee
    Twitter thread

       5 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Guido ( sadly ) reports that The Guardian is to formally apologise to Isabel Oakeshotte the reporter who broke the UK ambo story for defaming her last week . The lefty rag is also to pay her 5 figure compensation .

      It’s a shame it didn’t go to court where the rag could have been shredded and with a bit of luck bankrupted.

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