Midweek Open Thread 17 July 2019

The Far Left Failing Biased BBC keeps on giving doesn’t it ? It doesn’t even pretend to be neutral any more . There is just one ‘approved ‘ story ;facts which don’t fit the narrative are minimised or ignored . And people are forced to pay for it .

And if you think the MPs see it as biased – think again – the link below is to the debate on the useless petition about BBC bias

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-07-15/debates/AF16A1B4-E52D-46BC-9EEF-555F504FD7B2/BBC

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538 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 17 July 2019

  1. Dover Sentry says:

    From the horse’s mouth:-

    Barnier 2016:

    “”I shall have succeeded in my task if the final deed is so hard on the British that in the end they’ll prefer staying in the EU””

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d1d24c7625bdf4474ebe4ec571b1c2de27afb82378832afe7a88b7b269c12f0e.jpg

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  2. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #1 Continuing ‘Project Fear’

    The TOADY Prog will be proud of TWatO’s efforts. Phil Hammond is claiming that our National Debt will be badly affected leaving the EU without a deal or even with a Bojo or Hunt deal that amends the May WA.

    Unfortunately, the numbers do not point favourably at the legitimacy of this claim. Before we joined the EU (then called the EEC) in 1972 – 31 December at midnight – our National Debt stood at under £2 billion approximately.* At the time of the EU Referendum it was approximately £1750 billion.

    How good has EU (EEC/EC) membership been for the UK and its National Debt? Form your own opinion from the numbers over the time of our membership.

    * have been a bit imprecise deliberately as it is not easy, even in the age of G**gle to quickly find these numbers. I wonder why?

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    • Despairada says:

      It’s funny how they throw hands up in horror at No Deal Brexit, but smile benignly at what Extinction Rebellion and the Government’s C02 reduction pledge would do to the economy.

      I remember the oil tanker drivers strike when the supermarket shelves emptied and everything was in danger of grinding to a total halt within days. I got my hiking boots out for the four mile walk to work.

      When there is a power cut, even a planned one, we have to go out and take refuge in shops, pubs etc because during a power cut you can’t even open the fridge door.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Why would we CRASH OUT of the fossil-fuel economy that benefits the rest of the world so much ?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      I heard a little bit of some remain Soros mouthpiece pleasuring himself over the guess figures of the office of budget irresponsibility .

      Do you notice that there is no review of previous forecasts of doom different devalued organisations put up in Project Fear .

      An objective broadcaster might look at them all and say – ‘which ones were right ?”

      As you write at the end of your comments

      ‘I wonder why ‘.

      Al beeb really is flogging a dead horse and fit an organisation which claims to see life as more than money – it only looks at the financial – trade – issues of getting out of the ReichEU .

      Other minor notions like self governance , independence , independent taxation Border controls , excluding those we don’t want , national identity- don’t feature in the BBCs hateful multinational global dream .

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  3. Up2snuff says:

    TWatO Watch #2 BBC Forgetting to use a Favourite Weapon

    Discussion on proposals to limit young drivers to driving in daylight hours. The BBC’s (and the Left’s) favourite weapon – the NHS and its doctors and nurses – was left unused in its protective case alongside the Studio microphones.

    I wonder why?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      It is also not easy to find stats (surprising in the computer age) on how many UK Provisional Driving Licences are issued in the UK every year. You would think that such information would be important to the DfTransport in planning road space, DfEnvironment in planning policy for housing, DfWork & Pensions in employment strategy and the Home Office in ‘planning’ ahem! immigration.

      In one quarter of 2014, 230,000 provisional Licences were issued. In eighteen months to date, test passes totalled approximately 762,000. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-49026171

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Can always tell a fag end government when they come up with hare brained unenforceable laws to make them feel as though they are doing something positive .

        Should such rules apply to cyclists ? They seem more likely to get killed than car users .

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  4. Doublethinker says:

    Lord Hall of Birkenhead has indicated that it would be possible for the BBC to be a subscription only service but it would be fundamentally different to its present form because it would have to give its subscribers what they wanted. Honestly that is what he said. I think that further comment is superfluous.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      But Double – Double – I love ‘homes under the hammer ‘ ‘spiders in the attic ‘ that one where the do an auction thing ( if not the same ) and other avarice programmes … and I never miss that one or two show ….

      Sky is subscription – but apart from the Sport – is there anything worth paying for -now that ‘thrones ‘ has gone ?

      I once requested thar sky news loses £600 million a year – I don’t know the source and would like confirmation .

      It’s a shame the BBC went down the propaganda bias route – it could have been a contender .

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  5. Lucy Pevensey says:

    DT, I hate to rain on the parade but….

    “The compulsory licence fee system is guaranteed until 2027”

    “I would argue that’s the wrong model for supporting the BBC.”

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    • Doublethinker says:

      I didn’t say that Lord Birk was in favour of subscription, we all know that the BBC will fight tooth and nail to avoid being put into a commercial environment. But for the idiot to say that a subscription model would force the BBC to give the customers what they want, tells you that they certainly don’t think it necessary to do that under the current funding system. Perhaps the noble Lord is so contemptuous of the viewer or listener that he simply thinks their wishes ought to continue to have no bearing on the BBC output.

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  6. Dover Sentry says:

    I see that our non-Democratic mother of all Parliaments have today voted against Proroguing Parliament.

    Hunt ‘forgot’ to vote. Did all his team have the day off?

    Meanwhile, the BBC has raised a crack team to target the non-paying over 75’s.

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    • Dystopian says:

      I dread to think how many poor old folk will be conned into buying a licence they don’t need, or worse, being tricked by those unscrupulous b’stards, into signing one of those confession forms that they fill in afterwards. It’s a disgrace. The BBC ought to be ashamed.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        It’s great isn’t it . There will be a list of over 75s which will be easier than people like me to be targeted – so the stazi will have easy wins and threaten prosecution for elderly people who are more likely to be upset by the trip to the Mag Court than the likes of me –
        Shameful – and I haven’t done the old 5 richest country in the world crap … we’ll im not .

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Dyst & Fed, not quite what that’s got to do with the success of another anti-Brexit measure but I agree that the old, and perhaps not entirely with it, will be persecuted and persuaded to pay up. Not sure the Beeb will be keen to prosecute any, though. That could result in some very unfavourable media headlines with regular reminders every time the BBC pay and gender details come out.

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          • Dystopian says:

            Up2snuff,
            “not quite what that’s got to do with the success of another anti-Brexit measure”

            It was a direct reply to Dover Sentry’s comment above:
            “Meanwhile, the BBC has raised a crack team to target the non-paying over 75’s”

            With all this copy and pasting I am beginning to feel like Maxincony!

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        • JimS says:

          But think of all those poor Asian millionaires who might be forced to pay a licence fee for the first time!

          I expect there will be some special concession made for them.

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    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      England is undemocratic? I thought the voice of England was the voice of the people, around here!

      Hint: What John Bright said in 1865 was “England is the mother of parliaments”. He was arguing for more people having the vote as parliament was undemocratic.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Don’t think so, WildWoman. England had driven its democracy around its shires in circles and then exported it via the Empire. While there were ‘clan’ conferences in Ireland & Scotland going back as far, if not further, I don’t think that even in a wild 😉 moment they could be compared to what had evolved around the Monarch in Westminster.

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  7. Helen Richardson says:

    I never thought this would happen. I pretty much agree with something that Matthew Parris has said about President Trump’s comment:

    “I don’t like his attacks but I think they will strike a chord among millions who should not be called racists. It’s just futile to suppose that arrivals from another country, and their children, immediately and automatically assume an identity as citizens that is indistinguishable from that of the population already there. They have all the same rights but will be seen, for a generation or two, as neither better nor worse but different.”

    “Ordinary” people have known this for years of course.

    I don’t expect to see him on the BBC any time soon.

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  8. Roland Deschain says:

    Why must everything be seen by BBC droids through the prism of race or gender?

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    • JimS says:

      And the first dog.

      The USA did reach the Moon though, which was the object, wasn’t it?

      I expect the USSR were too busy working through all the ‘intersectional’, ‘inclusive’ and ‘diverse’ permutations.

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      • JamesArthur says:

        First Vegan? There’s an opening for the UK

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        • taffman says:

          JamesArthur
          ‘Must like cheese’.

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        • davylars says:

          It’s already been done James

          The first rabbit to go into space was called Marfusha (Martha) and went into orbit with a Samoyed dog named Otvazhnaya. They went into orbit from Russia on July 2, 1959. aboard an R2-A rocket. All animals were recovered successfully. .

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          • Up2snuff says:

            The Sunday Programme, of all things, last weekend did an item on space and had to bring the ‘wimmin’ element into it.

            Truly pathetic bit of virtue signalling and being ‘right on’ with the message.

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            • BRISSLES says:

              I’ve never seen a black man speaking Russian. Just saying.

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              • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

                People in Cuba had to learn Russian during the Soviet era, so there might be a few around who can speak it.

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        • Dystopian says:

          For once I find myself in agreement with the BBC.
          I don’t think there are nearly enough ROPers sent into space.
          Let’s send more!

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        • Banania says:

          How far away is Vega? Can they all go there?

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          • Guest Who says:

            The BBC Ark is fuelled, ready and boasts spotlessly sanitised handsets.

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  9. StewGreen says:

    4:30pm Radio4
    On the Pushing-PC-dogma-and-a-little-bit-of-science Show
    Adam Rutherford has spent first third of the prog gushing about Turin getting position on the £50 note
    \\ Adam Rutherford asks Chief Cashier at the Bank of England, Sarah Johns how and why he was selected and he asks Sue Black, Professor of Computer Science and Technology Evangelist at Durham University, who campaigned to save Bletchley Park, what this accolade means //
    Two womens guests, of course.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      If Turing was straight we’d never have heard of him.

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      • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

        Maybe. Maybe if he was straight he wouldn’t have died, he’d have lived on into the 1970s and beyond. Maybe he would have been the one telling the story of Bletchley Park. Maybe he’d have given British technology an extra boost that kept it a step ahead of the US. Maybe he’d have turned his mind to his first interest, artificial intelligence, and unwittingly unleashed a nightmare on the world.

        Impossible to know, of course, but I’m sure we’d have heard of him one way or another.

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        • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

          It is interesting how some people are remembered more than others. I’d heard of Turing and the “Turing Test” long before he became fashionable in part because of the sad way he suffered for his homosexuality. But try asking people in the street about Gordon Welchman: how many have heard of him? Similarly, outside the chess fraternity, how many people would know very much about C. H. O’D. Alexander or Sir Stuart Milner-Barry?

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          • Despairada says:

            Have you heard of Bill Tutte, whose work is said to have shortened the war by two years?

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          Wildwoman:

          He’d be as famous as Tommy Flowers.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        RiC, I also heard the Beeb claim Turing ‘invented the computer’.

        I was taught that Charles Babbage was the one who did that, assisted by Ada Lovelace. I also have a notion that Babbage’s wife and, I think, his sister also helped with his work. Strange that the Beeb – in their current mode – missed an opportunity to mention the women.

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        • Banania says:

          Thomas Fowler invented a ternary computer in 1844. He developed it while devising a more efficient way of doing the accounts of the local workhouse in Torrington in Devon. His machine was made of wood and has not survived.

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  10. taffman says:

    These Crying Wolves are coming back to bite her on her Backside.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-32806520

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  11. taffman says:

    “Brexit: MPs back bid to block Parliament suspension”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49030225
    The 17 Tory Remainers are finished.
    Time for UKIP and The Brexit Party to prepare for Government . I smell a General Election on the way .

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  12. StewGreen says:

    BBC impartial Staff
    Twitter is pushing E10 forced 10% biofuel in petrol/diesel stories at me cos I replied to Nic Dakin MP

    “An overnight move that could help cut carbon emissions from cars overnight, but hasn’t been implemented because of ‘Brexit distraction’. Bonkers.”
    Julia Bradbury

    \\ This is the most bonkers thing I’ve read in a while – there’s a car fuel, that other countries use, that reduces CO2, that the UK could have brought in by now.
    But we haven’t. //
    Matthew Price “I host the BeyondToday podcast
    @BBCSounds with Tina and present Today @BBCr4Today with John.”
    He believes E10 is a magic solution

    Thursday Extinction Rebellion to meet BBC management;
    https://rebellion.earth/2019/07/17/tomorrow-extinction-rebellion-to-meet-bbc-management-friday-requiem-for-a-dead-planet-protest-to-call-on-uk-newspapers-to-tell-the-truth/

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    • Guest Who says:

      After 28gate and the subsequent ‘no sceptics’ policy, setting aside time to meet the XR Alinsky-anarchists is a special kind of stupid.

      I hope they glue themselves to Botney’s private elevator.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Tonight’s TV
    9pm BBC1 Britain’s Brexit Crisis
    8:30pm ITV Greatest National Treasures with Julia Bradbury & Trevor McDonald

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  14. fakenewswatcher says:

    While the anti-democrats work on another stitch-up in parliament, Salvini is fighting the good fight in Helsinki.
    At a meeting of EU Interior Ministers, he’s refused to go along with the Franco-German plot to institute a EU-wide ‘migrant’ distribution system. Instead, he wants a Mediterranean ‘barrier’ against illegal migrants.
    Elsewhere in Italy, Carola Rackete has appeared in court again, to demand the large-scale importation of ‘migrants’ into Europe. This ‘German’ captain of the ‘Sea-watch 3’ ‘migrant rescue’ ship is going to be every bit as much a pain in the posterior as the Thunberg woman. She is becoming another MSM darling, elected by no-one, but holding forth with big speeches on her personal pet project, and expecting sovereign states to fall in line.
    We need all to be extra – vigilant.
    And we could do with more Salvinis in Europe!

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  15. pugnazious says:

    Just watching C4 Dispatches on Tory Party islamophobia and the presenter claimed that we are seeing something ‘never seen before in British politics….a party leader being elected by party members whilst the party is in government’…

    …er and then there’s Gordon Brown, the process for electing the Labour leader is ‘The leader is elected by the PLP (which is made up of all Labour MPs), trade union members affiliated to the Labour party, and ordinary party members.’….so not different to the Tories in efffect…and Brown made PM whilst Labour in government.

    C4 are very disturbed that the next PM is being elected by a very small group of extremists and cranks unrepresentative of Britain…many have, omg, ‘traditional views’…then again C4 and BBC are run by extremists and cranks not representative of Britain so maybe do a programme on that.

    Sky seem equally prepared to twist the truth as Guido reports….and Gina Miller giving me a good laugh as she claims ‘We’re all Brexit now’…..

    ‘On Sky News this afternoon, Gina Miller and Adam Boulton slipped up, erroneously claiming that the Conservative Party Manifesto did not say that “no deal is better than a bad deal.”

    AB: None of those manifestos said leaving without a deal, which is what this issue is about

    TH: The Conservatiove Party Manifesto said that No Deal was better than a Bad Deal, clearly.

    GM: The manifesto didn’t say that

    AB: The manifesto didn’t

    But it literally did in black and white on page 36…

    ‘We continue to believe that no deal is better than a bad deal for the UK. ‘

    Miller then went on to claim that she is not running anti-Brexit campaigns, asserting she’s not an anti-Brexit activist. It must have just been purely coincidental that she found herself…

    Founding anti-Brexit campaign Best for Britain
    Campaiging with anti-Brexit Liberal Democrat and Labour politicians
    Working with Euro-federalist campaign group European Movement to advocate the People’s Vote march.
    Marching for a ‘People’s Vote‘ alongside anti-Brexit MPs Caroline Lucas, Stephen Doughty, Vince Cable, and Peter Kyle.
    Speaking at Lib Dem Party Conference 2018
    Speaking at a People’s Vote rally
    Founding anti-Brexit campaign ‘End the Chaos‘, which argues for a second referendum.
    Founding anti Brexit campaign ‘Lead not Leave‘
    Threatening Boris Johnson with legal action if he tries to stick to his manifesto commitment that No Deal is better than a bad deal.

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    • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

      Just think: without Gina Miller’s intervention we’d now be out under the terms of Theresa May’s deal. You, know, the one that nobody wanted.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Don’t think so. Wrong again Wildy! Twice in one day. Don’t let maxi catch you.

        IIRC, re Miller and others, 2017, was about A.50. Her attempt to scuttle Brexit was clobbered with a majority vote to Leave.

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  16. fakenewswatcher says:

    It has taken 25 years, but the Dutch are waking up!
    ‘Politicsweb’ reports from South Africa, that they are turning against the ANC. (And that’s saying SOMETHING!)
    The Dutch parliament has accepted a motion condemning the SA government’s policy of ‘Expropriation without Compensation’ as being opposed to International Human Rights.
    So a racially-motivated land-grab is, after all, being recognised as…well…a racially-motivated land-grab.
    The Dutch were very supportive of the ANC during the Apartheid era, but have now realised that their faith in this organisation was not being rewarded with the promised freedom and non-racial democracy in post 1994 SA.
    Wonder if and when the UK will wake up too?
    And who knows, maybe there will soon be the odd voice from Europe, enquiring about the continuing attacks on white farms in SA? (Not that black farms are immune.) There were 22 farm attacks and three murders from 1-15 July 2019. Nowt on the wonderful impartial bbc about that, as yet. Shall we say, 25 years of silence on the subject? (Oh yes, programmes were interrupted when Mandela died, followed by days of wailing and garment-rending.)

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    • pugnazious says:

      FNW…..Doesn’t matter what the Dutch parliament says…the BBC is the final arbiter of truth here…and they say no whites are being targeted in any way whatsoever in South Africa. Hope that clears up any misunderstanding about who really rules the roost. If it’s not got the BBC seal of approval, verified, ‘reality checked’, for truth and accuracy, then you just can’t trust it.

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        pug – the beeb like to think they’re the final arbiter of just about everything, just as you suggest.
        But, who knows, the bigger they are, the harder they fall…

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    • taffman says:

      fakenewswatcher
      Once the white farmers have gone the country will move from a breadbasket to a basket-case , just like Zimbabwe. Another country we be will giving Foreign Aid to.
      Simples
      https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2019/jul/16/alarming-shortfall-foreign-aid-worlds-biggest-crises

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    • Lefty Wright says:

      fakey
      For many years it was my unquestioned opinion that all of Southern Africa’s problems would be solved with the advent of majority rule.
      What more can I say but – Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear. OH POXY F*****G DEAR!

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    • Banania says:

      I believe that when Mandela died there was a suspension of murdering for twenty four hours to show respect.

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  17. Helen Richardson says:

    Why are there so few Polish people on British TV?

    Go on, hazard a guess.

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    • Navets says:

      Helen

      My guess would be, because of Brexit.

      Clearly, the atmosphere created by the non-binding, uninformed but far-right inspired racist vote to leave Europe has created such a climate of fear among people born anywhere but England that all Polish born people have simply either upped sticks and returned to Poland or gone to live elsewhere in the EU where they would undoubtedly be welcomed in a manner befitting the prodigal son.

      Hence, the reason there are so few Polish people on British TV is because there are no longer any Polish people left in Britain.

      It’s all our fault and we should hang our heads in shame. We should pay these poor victims reparation. Just add it to the £39bn.

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      • taffman says:

        Navets
        Lots of Polish people in Wales despite Brexit ? They must have moved here from England ?
        They have opened shops, cafes and mini-markets selling Polish food. Despite the fact that Wales voted for Brexit.
        I am sure that there must be another “reason” they do not appear on TV.

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        • Navets says:

          Taff

          There may well be an under representation of Welsh people on British TV as well. Come to think of it, I overheard someone saying that only people from a certain section of British people are over represented on British TV but I just can’t think who he may have been referring to.

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        • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

          I know! I like the tubs of baby herring pickled in brine myself. And the chocolate-covered plums are to die for.

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          • Lefty Wright says:

            WildWomanOfTheWoods
            “The chocolate covered plums are to die for”? Help! My imagination is going berserk here. Anyway, I think you sell your life a little cheaply because I would have thought you would at least insist that the said plums are VICTORIA plums.
            All my long life I have dreamed of meeting a wild woman in the woods.
            However, it wouldn’t surprise me at all to discover that you are in fact a hairy arsed navvy with a very large personality but you are an essential ingredient of this site.

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    • StewGreen says:

      The writer says few appear but Guardianand doesn’t make a fuss cos white Catholics don’t matter.

      I do notice that the ITV police drama Wild Bill set in Boston Lincs has Polish characters in every week.

      I get the feeling that in a year more people on the same street in London appear on the BBC than in my entire region.

      A quarter of a million people must have an accent from my region but I never hear one broadcast nationally.
      Guy Martin is from the next region and he’s the only Grimsby accent I hear on the national media.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Because Poland doesn’t allow any Muslim immigrants so the likes of the BBC can’t find any Polish Muslims.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        No but I bet most of the parents of kids in Poland are receiving Child Benefit, courtesy of us taxpayers here in the UK ! ! and the scandal continues.

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  18. Dystopian says:

    Homophobic attack.
    Hidden in local news.
    Knife wounds to “head and neck”
    No description of perps.
    If the attackers were white they would have said so.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-48736297

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  19. taffman says:

    While she and Oily were our head negotiators……………….
    https://www.ft.com/content/d71b9b04-a933-11e9-984c-fac8325aaa04

    Do some Tory MPs have a vested interest in blocking Brexit ?
    Time will tell when we get a new government.

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    • Navets says:

      Taff

      The election may be sooner rather than later if Parliament succeeds in frustrating Brexit after Boris’s Coronation.

      The BBBC knows Corbyn to be an utter electoral liability and this may go some way to understanding them fanning the flames showing Labour under Corbyn to be anti-semitic. Clearly, the BBBC would prefer someone else to be the leader at the time of a general election. Sadly, the Labour party is now so overrun with militants, it wouldn’t matter who its leader is.

      We do need, as you often say, to get right behind the Brexit Party.

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      • taffman says:

        Navets
        As soon as Al Beeb learn that there will be a General Election they will go into Anti-Brexit mode by vilifying The Brexit Party, UKIP or anyone else that wants to get us out of the EU.
        I suspect it will start pretty soon .

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  20. StewGreen says:

    In the last 5 years Leeds councillors have spent £31K on trips to Africa/Asia
    https://www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/news/politics/how-much-leeds-council-spent-sending-councillors-around-the-world-using-taxpayer-cash-1-9880755

    Leeds City Council declared a climate emergency in March, and carbon neutral target of 2030

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  21. Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

    I was shocked by the blatant bias on Radio 4’s 6 pm news today. The coverage of the “four women of colour” story in the US left out so much context that it was seriously flawed, not merely slanted.

    There was no attempt to convey WHY it might be that a crowd would cheer Pres. Trump when he publicly named and criticized Ilhan Omar and AOC, and boo their names. The BBC report was determined to make it about gender (which it isn’t) and ethnicity (not the main part of it) instead of explaining the anti-American, open borders, pro-Islamic, anti-Semitic, Green/Socialistic words and actions of the four, which have divided even the US Democrats let alone the nation as a whole.

    I have felt for many years, partly as a result of reading posts here and partly from my own online research, that the BBC’s coverage of the USA is very biased and gives you a poor picture of the complexity of the political situation there.

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  22. theleftwilleatitself says:

    Greta Thunberg reminds me of Regan from The Exorcist!
    Every time I see her I expect to see her head start going round and round 🤮

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    • Scroblene says:

      Greta Thunberg reminds me of an iritating, pretentious little git, who will grow up like a simliar growth to Owen Jones, and everyone of every colour in the bbbc who believes all that crap!

      There! Full house!

      And as it’s my birthday tomorrow, I have a bottle of Guinness in the fridge, as well as a bottle of Lindemans to share with Her Lusciousness The Senora O’Blene at lunchtime. The Prosecco will go in after lunch for when we start again at the witching hour of 6:00pm!

      (Seasoned observers may well note a certain relaxing of mannerisms before the day is out, but I promise not to annoy all the good people here)!

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Many hoppy re-runs in the meantime …
        … although after that lot, it’ll be more like a snooze in a comfy armchair (than any hopping and running) dreaming pleasant dreams unafflicted by Beeb & Brexit. 🙂

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    • JimS says:

      Or Friday Addams?
      9k=

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      • StewGreen says:

        1939 The Hitler Youth
        2019 The Soros Youth : starring Greta
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        • StewGreen says:

          A new report Extremism Rebellion – A review of ideology and tactics from the think tank Policy Exchange looks into the behaviour and background of Extinction Rebellion.
          https://cliscep.com/2019/07/18/extremism-rebellion/

             12 likes

        • Dystopian says:

          Well the indoctrination starts early doesn’t it.
          My 6 year old granddaughter came home from school yesterday with a t shirt she had painted (with the help of her 20 something year old teacher).
          A lovely picture of the sea, with a plastic bottle floating in it and the slogan “save our oceans”.
          For gods sake can’t they just let them be kids!

             22 likes

          • BRISSLES says:

            Totally agree. We see constantly parents using their offspring to push their own views, whether its saving libraries, the oceans or Brexit. Its akin to taking toddlers to Disneyland – a waste of time and money – too young to understand, give them some crinkly paper and a box to play with and they’re happy.

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  23. G says:

    “As the Home Secretary, Sajid Javid, said today:
    “I am so pleased we have had more than 900,000 applications to the EU Settlement Scheme.
    “In just a few short months, hundreds of thousands of EU citizens and their families – our friends and neighbours – have secured their rights.
    “This is great progress but we have more to do. EU citizens and their families have until at least 31 December 2020 to apply and we want no one to be left behind.””
    So, 909,000 EU Citizens have now applied for status to become Brits. Two-thirds have been approved already, doubtless including many benefit cheats.
    Add that to the hundreds of thousands of muslims and Africans the same Home Secretary broadcast as likely to reach 20 million or more on the way starting soon, mere weeks ago and you can say that immigration is a brisk business. God help those I’ll leave behind sometime within the next 10 years or less.

       43 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Unbelievable – just shows how disconnected these traitors are from the people who live in the real world.

         28 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      G

      This should be the test for Boris when he becomes PM. Sack the Home Secretary and terminate his immigration policy.

         22 likes

      • theisland says:

        The Home Office would benefit by being run entirely by ex-military personnel and veterans.

           18 likes

        • taffman says:

          Home Secretary?
          Someone inform him that there is desperate shortage of houses , hospitals, schools , public transport etc etc etc .
          In a nutshell, we are full up !
          Nothing racist in that Mr Javid ?

             19 likes

          • BRISSLES says:

            He’s banging on again today, and starting his speech yet again (yawn?) about his upbringing, the bullying, his parent working hard when they arrived in my country etc etc. So bloody predictable.

            Can you imagine the press reaction if J Rees-Mogg began any speech with HIS upbringing and education ? he’d get slaughtered.

            I’d have just one question for our Home Secretary who preaches and praises how diverse this country is, …… “and what did your Dad contribute to defending this country he has benefited from in WW2 ?”

            I wonder what his answer would be.

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    BBC reports an excellent example of the London Police reflecting the ‘ population .PC Avi Maharaj
    Has pleaded guilt to fraud – charging £26 of porn to a family pay tv to buy porn whilst waiting for the undertaker to arrive to take away a dead child .

    It says the police man is 44 . Can but wonder what else he might have done ….

    Sometimes one really does wonder

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  25. WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

    You miserable lot! No patriotic love for Lancashire lad Simon Yates, winner of today’s 12th stage of the Tour de France? He’s white, he’s male, he’s impeccably English and he spent today pedaling furiously the distance from London to Cardiff, climbing the height of Ben Nevis twice on the way, and having enough left at the end for a flat-out sprint to fend off the two rivals who were still with him at the last. And the BBC is there to tell you all about it!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/49036913

    I thought that would be right up your street.

       22 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      Lady Woods, I must confess that I wouldn’t have known about this until the early hours, when insomnia would have me listening to Dotun, on ‘Up all night’! (A rare sentiment at my age, I have to confess)…

      Exactly two years ago, Mrs O’Blene bought me an electric bike, and it is my pride and joy as every hill around my Kentish village is now surpassable, but London to Cardiff; er, probably not a good idea!

         17 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Wildy, glad to have you around so much today but what point are you making in that post?

         11 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2
        I agree . A ‘ different ‘ mindset with a tendency to treat all those using this site as having the same views .

        It is a useful tool used by the left to dismiss those who do not conform to their collective belief .

        The same technique is used by remainers to rubbish the motivation of any one of the brexiter persuasion and who can be disregarded as thick, racist or old …

        That poster also seems to think that everyone should be enthusiastic for all sports – i could care less about cycling cricket, golf , tennis , motor racing , rugby , any Wimmins sport whatever nationality or colour of the participants . Indeed ‘wild’ exhibits a certain jingoistic racism in the comment

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Wot? No reply from our Wild One?

          Hmmmnnnnnnnnnnn . . . …………

             4 likes

          • Dystopian says:

            She’s like a sniper in the woods taking pot shots then ducking for cover!

               7 likes

          • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

            It gets boring after a while. You are all so predictable it’s no fun.

            I think you love it really!

               0 likes

    • davylars says:

      I don’t like cycling.
      I like Diesel engines …

         6 likes

    • Banania says:

      Boring.

         0 likes

  26. vlad says:

    I sometimes wonder if al beeb isn’t unintentionally doing Trump’s work for him.

    So when they gleefully (mis-) quote his comments on the gruesome foursome that they should ‘go back’ – to which we’re meant to react with shock and horror – I wonder if instead another few thousand people don’t think: mmm, he’s got a point.
    Some might even wonder if our very own Lammys, Flabbotts and Ali Baba-Browns should also consider doing the same…

       53 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Vlad
      Fortunately I doubt that the Far Left BBC – placed in the same toilet as CNN – has any influence with American voters – and just rants for the comfort of its own kind .

         30 likes

    • JimS says:

      YA-B, the lady barely of colour, was telling us how nice Uganda was the other day!

      I expect that is because they had the good sense to chuck her out . Just like Groucho Marks, she wouldn’t want to live in any country that would accept her as a citizen.

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    • Banania says:

      He did also say that they should come back afterwards, which the BBC doesn’t mention.

         2 likes

  27. Dover Sentry says:

    I have waited for over three years for the BBC to make a positive programme about Brexit. Lord Hall back in 2016 said they would.

    I have waited for over three years for the BBC to explain to me why the EU is so favoured by the BBC. I can’t think of any reason to favour the EU.

       39 likes

  28. fakenewswatcher says:

    Are we enjoying the bbc tv news at ten?
    Highest ever level of UK unsolved crimes, beeb says.
    About 43,000+ knife incidents for the year.
    Let down by politically correct politicians, poor leadership, and general moral decay in society, who would want to be an officer in the street?
    Meanwhile Project Fear is led on beeb 10 news by Faisal islam. Are we quacking in our boots yet, or should Faisal turn up the heat?
    And Laura, of course.
    The anti-Trump session is led by Nick Bryant.
    The anti-Israel (anti-Semitic?) person in the Squad calls Trump a fascist. Wonder what the Israelis would think about that?
    High levels of concern for mental health in primary schools.
    Very sad, but not surprising.
    Our PC society has let down more than merely police officers.
    Badly. The beeb with its incessant pursuit of PC projects has played a major role in this, make no mistake.

       32 likes

    • G says:

      Fnw,
      “Meanwhile Project Fear is led on beeb 10 news by Faisal islam. Are we quacking in our boots yet, or should Faisal turn up the heat?”
      “turn up the heat” – Yes, can be easily achieved: ‘send him back’……

         6 likes

  29. Scroblene says:

    Seeing this, FNW, I popped over to the blah blah blah crud site to see what was what.

    All I could read was anti-President Trump, wall to wall!

    But the stupidest piece was by A. Zurcher, who said: –

    “Three years ago, crowds at Donald Trump rallies called for the imprisonment of a political adversary. On Wednesday, they chanted for a member of the opposition party to be expelled from the country.

    These are not behaviours emblematic of a healthy, well-functioning democracy.”

    Only a blahboid could make such a ridiculous statement, when we have ‘militant’ leftie thugs like antifa and other kids forming gangs here, all climbing on anti-British bandwagons, hating the Brits and our way of life, and being a tiresome waste of benefits!

    Still, at least this guy is over there, and President Trump knows exactly how to deal with ‘the beauties’.

       27 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      Zurcher doesn’t tell us why Hillary Rodham Clinton should NOT go to prison for grievous breaches of state security regarding those e-mails and her private server … and no doubt at least half a dozen other things, such as destroying subpoena-ed data.

         22 likes

  30. fakenewswatcher says:

    Scroblene – yup, they’ve had three years of The Donald, sorting things out, we’ve had three wasted years…
    Amazing though, looking at your little list, how similar the problems are!

       25 likes

  31. Halifax says:

    Check out on BBC news “Beachgoers come together to help stranded whales”
    It’s a film of people trying to rescue stranded whales on a beach in Georgia US. The film chosen by the BBC from the tens on social media is narrated by a women (obviously) however for some reason they decide to edit it to include faux camera shutter sound and stills . Obviously this wasn’t contained in the lady’s phone filmed report. So why would they add the stills ???
    You don’t even have to guess or watch it you know why…..drip …….drip …….drip

       21 likes

  32. Celtic_Mist says:

    The Progressive ideology – aka Beboid thinking.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressivism

    Virtually anyone can write stuff in Wikipedia and I suspect this was by someone who isn’t impressed –
    /
    Definition of progressive theory in Aldous Huxley’s Ape and Essence
    Aldous Huxley defined progressive theory in his novel Ape and Essence as:

    Progress — the theory that you can get something for nothing; the theory that you can gain in one field without paying for your gain in another; the theory that you alone understand the meaning of history; the theory that you know what’s going to happen fifty years from now; the theory that, in the teeth of all experience, you can foresee all the consequences of your present actions; the theory that Utopia lies just ahead and that, since ideal ends justify the most abominable means, it is your privilege and duty to rob, swindle, torture, enslave and murder all those who, in your opinion (which is, by definition, infallible), obstruct the onward march to the earthly paradise. Remember that phrase of Karl Marx’s: ‘Force is the midwife of Progress.’ He might have added — but of course Belial didn’t want to let the cat out of the bag at that early stage of the proceedings — that Progress is the midwife of Force. Doubly the midwife, for the fact of technological progress provides people with the instruments of ever more indiscriminate destruction, while the myth of political and moral progress serves as the excuse for using those means to the very limit. I tell you, my dear sir, an undevout historian is mad. The longer you study modern history, the more evidence you find of Belial’s Guiding Hand.”[27]
    /
    PS. I have no idea who Belial was…

       20 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Some regard as the Hebrew word for devil.
      Belial (בְלִיַּעַל bĕli-yaal) is a Hebrew word “used to characterize the wicked or worthless.”
      from two common words: beli- (בְּלִי “without-“) and ya’al ( יָעַל “to be of value”).

         4 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        His definition of “progress” is a bit over the top
        Obviously there is technological progress.
        And if society becomes less unfair, that is sociological progress.

        But it’s often one step forward steps 2 back
        eg the way government improves women’s LGBT rights then sits back whilst thousands of children become sex slaves to groom/rape gangs.

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  33. Fedup2 says:

    “Without these Wimmin man would not have walked on the moon “

    Headline in the Guardian – possible winner of headline of the month . Obviously I don’t know what the article is about as I won’t be reading it – why would I – it’s the Guardian ?

    So I assume it’s about the astronauts ‘ mums .

    Why look at the Guardian? Because it is my enemy . It is the written manifestation of the BBC which is also my enemy .

    And the BBC? Trumpeting a coming speech by the somewhat strange traitor Muslim Home Secretary about avoiding extreme language to avoid extremism .
    I suppose this means traitor MP s don’t like being called traitor MPs for fighting against the outcome of a huge Democratic Vote .

    As for Project Fear – Office of budget irresponsibility yesterday and a Commons traitor revolt followed today by an MP EU committee telling us yet again that it’s all bad . Of course . Yet again .

    As an aside – a Labour peer got sacked by Corbyn for comparing his people to being in a bunker like Hitler .
    So he is in his bunker and the traitor PM is in her bunker too . She is even going to announce public sector pay rises using existing budgets meaning better paid staff but less of them . Madness .

       23 likes

    • G says:

      Fed,
      “Why look at the Guardian? Because it is my enemy.”
      Along with all the Western media – US as well to a greater or lesser extent.
      But, if anyone had any previous doubts, our House of Commons is our enemy to a now quite an amazing extent. Evidence that so-called ‘democracy’ is dead. Would any future Government even contemplate another Referendum on any topic? I’d wager not on the memory of the one in 2016.
      If Boris is blocked from avoiding Parliament to force a Brexit, unless the people have some sort of meaningful leverage – a tax strike – for example, the only other way is a General Election. Personally I would prefer the latter which will be the only event that could potentially usher in a Farage led Brexit Party as the largest/most dominant faction. If that happens, it would be the biggest and most extensive clear out of all (or most) of the current wasters in the HoC. Then ‘upward and onward’ to the House of Lords, BBC……….Major ‘swamp draining’.

         24 likes

  34. Guest Who says:

    Sky, but… worth it.

    Our media.

    #CCBGB

       19 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Won’t it be great when deceitful propaganda signs like these are no more ? The ReuchEU taking UK taxpayers ‘ money and returning some of it claiming it is EU money . No.no.no.

      103 days to brexit 2

         22 likes

    • theisland says:

      Ed Conway – age 40 (bless) – Economics Editor of Sky News

      Education according to Wiki
      From 1993 to 1998, Conway was educated at the Oratory School, a Roman Catholic boarding independent school for boys in the village of Woodcote in Oxfordshire, followed by Pembroke College, Oxford, where he took an MA in English, and after having worked for several years, gained a Fulbright Scholarship to the Kennedy School of Government at Harvard University in the United States, where he took an MPA (a master’s degree in Public Administration).

         12 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Guest, I note from that Tweet thread this, so applicable to the BBC:
      – Andy Hemsted @andyhemsted 13h13 hours ago
      “How do people who spout such obviously stupid comments get so far in the news media? No wonder many people don’t bother with it anymore.”

         17 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Remind me, Ed. How is the EU funded?

         14 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        \\ Fun fact: you’re an idiot
        .. If you don’t know where the EU gets it money from.
        You’re welcome 😊 //

           7 likes

  35. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – more Roomita Elephantitis

    On switch @ 6.00am (yeah, I know) and I’m told that later in the programme we are going to hear about going to the moon again by the mid-2020s. That unnecessary (but beneficial) activity will result in unnecessary carbon use and unnecessary CO2 emissions and lots of tough questions about that will be asked of the contributors. Or not.

    I suspect not.

    I wonder why?

       12 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      UPDATE TO MY POST

      I was right. No questions about Anthropogenic Global Warming, Climate Change, Climate Emergency, Climate Crisis, Climate Disaster and Carbon NetZero.

      I wonder why?

         17 likes

  36. Ian Rushlow says:

    According to the State broadcaster, Home secretary Sajid Javid is to make an anti-extremism speech today, following the publication of a poll suggesting 52% of respondents had witnessed ‘extremism’ (e.g. having any concerns whatsoever about immigration). Just 52%? Surely 100% of the British population witness extremism every day, especially if they see, hear or read the BBC. Here’s some examples of what real people consider to be extremism:
    1. Being told men can turn into women.
    2. Having their children forced to learn about non-traditional lifestyles.
    3. The constant assault on our culture and tradition.
    4. Forced to pay higher prices for energy to indulge the fantasies of the global warming con.
    5. Having their democratic wish to leave the EU suppressed.
    6. The diversity delusion.
    7. Multicultural madness.
    8. Flatulent feminism.
    9. Islamification.
    10. The relentless push for globalisation.

    Mr Javid says he “knows what it’s like to be told to go back to where I came from.” And so he should – meaning back to under his stone in this case.

       61 likes

    • Sluff says:

      Ian
      I heard that pile of shite too.
      I think the 52% was not a poll but a percentage of responders. In other words a non-random self-selecting group.
      But no doubt the Guardianista intelligensia will take it as gospel.

         20 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      This has to be the test for the next Tory PM – how soon will he get rid of Savid Javid.

         8 likes

  37. Up2snuff says:

    “Lobby Land a BBC 6.30pm Comedy returns to Radio 4 tonight” I am told by the BBC.

    Snuffy’s memory can be defective but I don’t ever recall the first series being on Radio 4 at 6.30pm unless it only lasted for one programme and I missed it because I was out.

    Anyone else know if this is another BBC con?

    Checking via the Schedules as well as the BBC search facility it appears that Series One does not exist. Series 2 is only four programmes long. It is possible that I missed a Series 1 of a similar length.*

    The BBC’s so-called ‘Search’ facility is absolute rubbish, so I am not surprised that it doesn’t appear there.

    * The BBC have a record of dishonesty over repeats but I also wonder whether this is a ‘politics-related FakeNews’ spoof done, for obvious reasons, with a glance westwards. If anyone remembers the first Series do let me know. Stew Green – our ace Schedule watcher – might remember.

       15 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      @Snuffy doesn’t understand that you have to click the series title to open up the episodes
      It was always on at 11pm before
      5 Sep 2017 pilot edition
      June 2018 Series 1 , 4 episodes
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b6t2gb/episodes/guide

         1 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Snuffy does understand, Stew, and I did just that. In my browser with my ‘PC ancien’ all I could call up were the episodes in the current series. But thanks for confirming my suspicions. The BBC were lying. Again. OK, not a capital offence in this case but he (or she or it or they) who is scrupulous in the small things may be considered truthful in the grand matters of State.

        Funny thing, maxincony wasn’t on here to pick up the BBC on that little bit of misrepresentation.

        I wonder why?

        He is normally so picky.

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  38. Deborah says:

    After the 7am news on Today, Justin speculating with Lord knows who every which way Brexit can be avoided and if they can bring down the government? Isn’t this treason?

    To be fair, it suited my objectives. I switched off and got up.

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  39. Fedup2 says:

    Deborah
    The interviewee was a retired£££££££ lord lord called sumpter ( used the reith lectures as a shameful remainer propaganda piece ) – talking about sending the head of state to Brussels to sort out brexit . It sounded like he was on his private island in the pacific –
    Strange how the BBC gives air time to ex politicians and the like each week to let them air their hostility to brexit .

    Last week was major threatening to use Soros cash for judicial review
    Next is will be heseltine being exhumed again
    Same with Blair and the occasional Brown

    Funny how the BBC no longer carries the daily Soubry rant , or the Heidi the liar , or chooka or that West Country MP who some how is also a GP ? They were famous once ..

       26 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Lord Sumption, Fed.

      Actually, Jonathan Sumption said something interesting about the Major threat to Brexit. That’s the threat from the minor British (failed) PM called John Major, not a reference to Miliband major who is also anti-Brexit and is also rolled out by the BBC, when available, to Bash Brexit.

      The Law Lord’s opinion is that the Major attempt might fail.

         11 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2
        I’ve listened to the Reith Lectures for as long as I remember and expected a challenge . Instead – from a ‘law lord ‘ I got an o level essay of little value – apart from the use of the ‘off switch ‘ -which I have relabelled the BBC switch .

        I, too , think the idea of trying a Judicial Review to stop the conduct of Parliament would fail because , in a twisted way, the sovereignty of Parliament trumps to judiciary – and these nonsense parliamentary motion ‘wish lists ‘ are just remainers raging at the predicament they have put themselves in where 500 won’t obey the direction which came with the Referendum vote .
        I wish they’d just switch to either making our country stronger outside the ReichEU or sabotaging the economy in order to get the UK back into the EU .

        I think they’ll do the latter and will pray of the pound to die and the UK goes into recession – which of course – is coupled with something called ‘unemployment , Civil unrest , inflation , rising interest rates and the ‘normal ‘ stuff which occupies the MSM.

           8 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          “off switch” = “The Richard Bacon switch”

             6 likes

        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, I got into the Reith Lectures about a quarter of a century ago, maybe a bit more. It’s that Radio 4 effect of middle-age, I guess.

          I listened to a couple of Lord Sumption’s episodes but I found his going round in circles and also cutting across himself – strange I thought for an experienced Judge – with some apparent contradictions, really frustrating and annoying.

          As to the rest of your post, I gather Philip Hammond has said Brexit should be delayed until next year. I think he may be hoping there will be a massive world recession and Brexit would then be postponed or cancelled.

          In that event, I have a bit of news for the Chancellor. The next big crash, if the EU is also affected, and the SPIIGs especially so, the UK is committed to bailing out financially the EU and those ‘weak’ member States.

          You, your Brexit obstructing Parliamentary and Civil Service colleagues, together with the EU, Mr Chancellor, will be extremely unpopular with the nation as a whole. There is likely to be a mass handing out of P45s at the earliest electoral opportunity.

             1 likes

  40. JamesArthur says:

    Martha R4
    trying her hardest to get guests to say what she wants and when they don’t she says ‘I think we know what you mean’…no you don’t because they didn’t say it…R4 doing their best to promote the ‘Stop no deal’…
    And starting point for discussion on extremism..right wing, vegans.. no mention of Islam…. WTF

       22 likes

  41. Sluff says:

    Toady at 0740 and in the interests of impartiality a very small cheer for Martha Kearney.
    She was interviewing the chair of the investigation into extremism, one Sara Khan (what a surprise, enough said).

    All Khan wanted to talk about was extremism in all forms, mainly Far Right.

    Martha gets a bit of credit because a few times she challenged Khan that extremism that results in e.g blowing up people at pop concerts in Manchester might be a bit worse than other forms.

    Khan refused point blank on each occasion to single out such events. Apparently we need to be more concerned about beiing negative to immigrants.

    Yes, blowing up people is OK, but opposing unfettered mass immigration is not.

    A complete whitewash.

       48 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m so glad I’d had enough by then and done my BBC duty for the day .
      We saw fairwell to the last “this week’ and the last paid up journalist at the BBC last night . Farewell Brillo.

         25 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      It’s good to get these insights into how narrowly focused people can be. Is this a form of extremism?

      I wonder what the discussion at the job interview was like?

         10 likes

    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Rewriting history on the fly.

      See also Ilhan Omar’s communications director (a Jewish man) who’s been roped in to divert the narrative around extremism.

      Meanwhile 25,000 Islamist extremists who could pose a threat are in the UK according to EU figures.

         4 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        \\ It’s not anti-semitsm when a Muslim does it It’s not anti-semitsm when a Muslim does it It’s not anti-semitsm when a Muslim does it It’s not anti-semitsm when a Muslim does it It’s not anti-semitsm when a Muslim does it It’s not anti-semitsm when ..//

           7 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          I note Jeremy Slevin’s tweet is not contemporary,
          His wacky claim dates from 4 months ago.

             3 likes

        • Banania says:

          “It’s not anti-semitsm when a Muslim does it.” You have got the hang of it. Eventually we shall all be saying the same.

             2 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        \\ she put forward a BDS resolution that compares Israel to Nazis. That is by @IHRA definition, antisemitism, making her antisemitic. //

        Jeremy Slevin’s Twitter bio said he was head of comms for longtime Louis Farrakhan acolyte Keith Ellison.
        (a State Attorney General ..and his circles probably don’t know about British issues and anti-Anti-Semitism in the Labour Party)
        D_zbtoaXkAAdM0S.jpg:small


        ..Explained in a tweet

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  42. Fedup2 says:

    Watching ‘This Week’- there was an agreement that there has never been a better time to be alive ( in history ) – but no one mentioned Social Elderly Care …. but plenty about the usual bubble subjects – brexit – Trump – the comrades ….

    And for those who have been customers of this programme – it appeared that a regular fee collector (£700? Plus taxi ) Diane Abbott chose not to turn up. Probably a problem with dates – numbers you know …

       17 likes

  43. taffman says:

    From the horse’s mouth ……………………”UK exports remain strong despite global slowdown ”
    https://www.gov.uk/government/news/uk-exports-remain-strong-despite-global-slowdown
    Despite Brexit?
    How about it Al Beeb ?

       18 likes

  44. andyjsnape says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-49037855

    Subscription and TV licence, cant be bad. Lineker you’ll get a pay rise, or maybe not

       12 likes

  45. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – Overthetop Anniversary

    The BBC on R4 are overdoing the 50th Anniversary of the Apollo moon mission compared to some other recent ones. They completely forgot the 100th Anniversary of the end of WW1 and also the 50th Anniversaries of the Russian invasion of Czechoslovakia, the d’Oliveira Affair and the death of Jan Palach on Radio 4, in my listening at least. There may have been other omissions.

    The BBC don’t do comedy anymore. They don’t do (proper) science, geography or history either.

    Quite good on propaganda, however, especially anti-Brexit, feminist, gender and LeftyLibby propaganda.

       17 likes

  46. Guest Who says:

    Cue a really excellent Newswatch.

       25 likes

  47. tarien says:

    From time to time over the past three years politicians have needed to be reminded of what Brexit means in the minds of most Leave voters, and what was needed – in broad terms – to achieve it. This is what this government needs to be reminded of: 1. All ministers must now openly back Brexit, whichever way they voted
    2. They must embody a confident and positive vision of a post-Brexit Britain
    3. Forget ‘forms of words’ and legal fudging, success requires clear, unequivocal objectives
    4. The UK has red lines based on the simple fact that the people voted to leave
    5. This means exiting all EU structures and controls
    6. These will NOT be replaced with anything that has broadly the same effect as being a Member State
    7. Specifically, there will be :
    • No membership of the Single Market or anything like it
    • No membership of the Customs Union or anything like it
    • No ‘regulatory alignment’ of British goods, except for exports to the EU
    • Full ability to implement new international trade deals from October 2019
    • No jurisdiction by the ECJ
    • No freedom of movement – full autonomy
    • No submission to Common Agriculture or Fisheries Policies
    • No involvement in EU defence union in any form
    • No change in status of Northern Ireland and Gibraltar in any way
    8. UK will act as an independent country in all respects
    9. EU to be offered a generous free trade deal – zero tariffs
    This is what one person had to say just a day or so ago:
    I urge ALL elected MPs (especially remain voting MPs), to remember they won their Westminster seats by a MAJORITY electoral vote.
    ALL MPs are able to vote (when required to divide) on issues raised by members, and they do so because it’s democratic.
    So when the electorate return the largest ever vote in British history, and SOME MPs are upset at the instruction they were given, they are worthy of an ‘anti-democratic’ tag – The electorate are not stupid, and we NEVER forget.
    Some MPs are not worthy to sit on the green benches whilst they ignore the MAJORITY electorate (“majority” being the operative word).
    MPs ignoring 17.41 MILLION voters should think carefully about their privileged taxpayer funded Westminster seat.
    When the MUPPETS (MP’s) vote in Parliament, the majority wins that vote – and one vote is enough to win.
    When the electorate are asked to vote, the same applies.
    There is one sitting MP with a TWO VOTE majority, but no-one yelled foul play? Everyone just got on with life.
    When Boris is elected his first job must be to flush the Remainer turds in May’s cabinet down the toilet and spray the country with optimism freshener.
    I quote from The House of Commons paper ‘Can the Withdrawal Agreement be renegotiated and can Parliament prevent ‘no deal’?
    Because leaving the EU is an EU law process, at the national level a ‘no-deal’ Brexit can only be avoided if: 
    The Government unilaterally revokes Article 50 TEU and stays in the EU; or 
    Parliament approves and the Government ratifies the Withdrawal Agreement. 
    Nothing else that the Government or Parliament can do can be relied upon to stop a ‘no-deal’ Brexit on 31 October.
    Of course the new Prime Minister could as Edward Heath did in 1972, he used the Crown Perogative to side line Parliament and push through the Uk becoming a member of the EU or in this present case the UK coming out with a No Brexit Deal. This really will be the only for us to proceed.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      There will be no ‘new deal’ with the EU . They won’t move . We’re going to leave without a sell out on the 31st October – as I mentioned earlier – in 103 days …

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      • G.W.F. says:

        If Boris supports leaving.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        I do hope you are right with that ‘prophecy’, 😉 Fed. It can’t happen soon enough for me.

        On the subject of Brexit postponements and attempts to sabotage a No-Deal departure on 31 October, in the immortal words of Indiana Jones: “I have an extremely bad feeling about this.”

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    • Banania says:

      “There is one sitting MP with a TWO VOTE majority, but no-one yelled foul play.” That is SUCH an important point, and the key to so much of our recent trouble.

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  48. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Isn’t the news format so predictable now.

    We start off with the anti Trump section where everyone virtue signals over something mis reported that Trump has said, done or tweeted.

    Next, the anti Brexit section where the old tired project fear is pushed out again and the all too familiar ‘because of Brexit/despite Brexit’ news item is discussed by a panel of remainders.

    These top two are usually interchangeable depending on which has got the lefties most upset.

    Then, we get a crime section where a ‘person’ has knifed/shot/beheaded someone, or on the rare occasion a white local has done it, we get names, pictures, the lot, with the usual talking heads coming on and blaming whitey of racism or more often, a warning not to have a backlash against the usual perps, although there almost never is.

    Then there’s the story of the good ‘enricher’ who has made the world a better place (by baking a cake for some old people or something like that)

    Next, pictures of turtles with a straw in their nose or a plastic bottle in the sea followed by various warnings of how long we have left to save the planet.

    All interspersed with any negative stories about Farage, TBP, UKIP and the others that our ‘worlds most trusted’ hates.

    We all know the ‘impartial’ bbc’s bias against Trump and Brexit as well as their pro immigration, agw, wimmin, enrichers, eu, the far left, antifa, sjw….. you all know who.

    They could put the same news out every day and it would be little different from what they put out now. It’s always the same old formula.
    And more and more of us are becoming aware of the far left bias. Not just the ‘worlds most trusted’ but the likes of sky as well.

    Still waiting for the bbc’s First pro Brexit program.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      EG
      Ha ha – a summary indeed – one you left out – and which they really really love now … is ‘the first woman too… “ as in the first woman to screw up a brexit …”

      There is also of course the Language and ‘key phrases’ to cover up stuff they don’t want to say – such as the crimes of non white /foreigners … ‘local man’ – if it wasn’t so sad and sick it would be funny in a way …

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  49. Foscari says:

    For those of you not even interested in ” The Proms” but still
    take this website as ” Biased BBC ” seriously, just look at the main features on the BBC website dedicated to the Proms. It will make
    you want to VOMIT. It says that one of the priorities of the Proms is
    to have gender equality on new compositions by 2022.
    Look at the picture of the composers for this years Proms. You
    couldn’t make it up. I really do think that the lunatics are in charge
    of the asylum at the BBC.
    For those of you that would like to give CLASSICAL music a chance
    and would like to go to the Proms or listen on the radio. Give
    one of the three Bruckner symphony’s a go. I must warn you that
    Bruckner was one of those many B’S who were white and were
    MEN. I am surprised that the BBC even allows such works still to be played.

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