Midweek Open Thread 17 July 2019

The Far Left Failing Biased BBC keeps on giving doesn’t it ? It doesn’t even pretend to be neutral any more . There is just one ‘approved ‘ story ;facts which don’t fit the narrative are minimised or ignored . And people are forced to pay for it .

And if you think the MPs see it as biased – think again – the link below is to the debate on the useless petition about BBC bias

https://hansard.parliament.uk/commons/2019-07-15/debates/AF16A1B4-E52D-46BC-9EEF-555F504FD7B2/BBC

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538 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 17 July 2019

  1. Guest Who says:

    Guess who is back?

       23 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

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         36 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Villainy is afoot everywhere.

      Oddly not covered subsequently in much depth by the bbc.

         31 likes

      • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

        (1) The name is Humphrys – there is no ‘e’ before the ‘y’.

        (2) It should be: John Humphrys’ interview or John Humphrys’s interview, because there is already an ‘s’ at the end of the name before the possessive ‘s’ is added.

        Sloppy!

           1 likes

    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      I base all my views on “climate change” on the words of an autistic child who thinks she can see carbon dioxide.

      Said Michael Gove.

         18 likes

  2. Annunaki says:

    Where is home ?? algerians in France celebrating “their” countries win in an african tournament with lootng and murder in france, asylum seekers taking holidays in the country they are meant to be seeking asylum from, two damned good reasons to send some home

    and how many pkis sportng a brtish passport supporting pakistan against england in any sporting conflict ….. and probably any armed conflict?

       39 likes

  3. pugnazious says:

    “If you so fundamentally reject this country, then I’d prefer it if you leave.”

    Why is the Dutch PM not a racist then ala Trump?….

    ‘Netherlands PM says those who don’t respect customs should leave
    The Dutch prime minister, Mark Rutte, has published an open letter to the country’s citizens ahead of elections in March, telling anyone who cannot respect its customs to leave.
    People who “refuse to adapt, and criticise our values” should “behave normally, or go away”, Rutte said in a full-page newspaper message seen as a bid to win over voters drawn to Geert Wilders’ anti-immigration, anti-Muslim Freedom (PVV) party.
    He said the Dutch were “increasingly uncomfortable” with those who abused the freedoms they enjoyed after coming to the Netherlands, who “harass gays, or whistle at women in short skirts, or brand ordinary Dutch people racists”.
    Rutte, whose liberal VVD party narrowly trails PVV in the polls with elections less than two months away, said he shared the feelings of those who thought: “If you so fundamentally reject this country, then I’d prefer it if you leave.”

       52 likes

  4. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Read the Breitbart write-up on the latest “racist” drama.
    It’s quite good news for a change

    Nolte: Poll Shows Media Attack on Trump over ‘Squad’ Tweets Backfired

    https://www.breitbart.com/the-media/2019/07/17/nolte-poll-shows-media-attack-on-trump-squad-tweets-backfired/

       23 likes

  5. StewGreen says:

    New Politico vid
    about gagging orders
    The police couldn’t warn about the absconded convicted RAPIST, cos of the gagging order

       24 likes

    • theisland says:

      Politico’s comments make sense. So when a ‘serious’ legal commentator implies he is going to comment about the TR verdict and then doesn’t it tells me something.

      @JoshuaRozenberg Jul 5
      … I’m not planning to comment on today’s findings until we see the court’s reasons next week.

      Still waiting Joshua (unless anyone knows different).
      As far as I can see the only thing JR has done so far – on Jul 11 – is explain the sentencing rules, and quote the AG.

         8 likes

      • WildWomanOfThe Woods says:

        I expect he’s waiting for his missus to approve of what he’s going to say.

           1 likes

  6. BRISSLES says:

    I’ve always found it crackers that we in the UK can go and live anywhere in Europe and vice versa without too much paperwork involved, yet if we wanted to go and live in any Commonwealth country that is under the British Crown, then we have to jump through every hoop going with every i dotted and t crossed before we are even allowed to get into the country, let alone live there for any length of time and becoming a citizen.

    Canada (for example) is a country of around 34 millions with 9 NINE people per square mile, – we have over 60 millions with 630 people per square mile. Yet we are supposed to take even more refugees and migrants in – its insanity.

       40 likes

  7. Guest Who says:

    https://countrysquire.co.uk/2019/07/18/bbcs-social-media-achilles-heel/

    Every bbc body part is fatally compromised.

       16 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      Indeed, GW.

      Here’s an extract:-

      “”The principle of impartiality must be a sacrosanct one to the BBC. The unique way it is funded means that it should be impartial as a matter of course. “”

         14 likes

  8. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    Bless the good old BBC . It’s mishal barniere warning the UK
    ‘there will be consequences “ if UK leaves the Reich EU.
    The BBC – of course – leaps up and down with delight . It’s all going to be terrible .

    No countering about ‘consequences for the ReichEU ‘ which I believe will be worse for the EU with a 20% drop in income overnight plus a lot of ( hopefully) unemployed foreign fisherman as we recover out fishing grounds – just one example .
    The EU may be sliding into recession meaning job losses meaning more EU people looking for work – in the UK . But there won’t be an entitlement to come here any more – don’t hear the BBC saying stuff like this ….

    Also’…. the BBC business news – it appears that the new BBC line is to say America is going into recession as the US election comes along in the hope that this will kill of President Trump .

    Unfortunately the experts being interviewed don’t take that view -that won’t stop the BBC from pushing the lie .

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    • andyjsnape says:

      before the referendum the eu.bc did reports on certain companies, ie JCB, Dyson, British Sugar – and the benefits of leaving the EU.

      No such “news reports” have been done since. Only scaremongering, ie no sandwiches, and having to stockpile ice cream in winter! FFS

      Regarding Dyson – the eu.bc can only find and dig up negative news now. I’m unsure whether Pres Trump or Dyson gets the worse news, but hey ho, I’ll never pay the tele tax again

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  9. Fedup2 says:

    Toady 2

    Tourette’s Robinson chats to the BBC 007 – one frank gardiner..about some alleged terrorist ( Muslim not mentioned ) who has been extradited to the UK for alleged offences relating to the alleged mass killing of 44 at the alleged Manchester pop concert a couple of years ago.

    Tourette’s asked our Frank about the prosecution . Surprisingly our Frank said he wouldn’t answer the question because he didn’t want to prejudice the trial .

    Now – I might be wrong ( never ) but I think that following the TR political Trial and imprisoning last week an instruction has been issued for BBC people to avoid comments about trials .

    Therefore if there are trials involving Paki Muslim paedophile Racist rape gangs preying on white british children we ain’t going to be hearing anything about it – not that we ever did – bit like the state which didn’t take them on in case it upset them and their ‘community ‘.

       32 likes

    • JimS says:

      Perhaps he knows that our new overlords-in-waiting are keeping a ‘Pike’ list which they will ‘execute’ when they formally take over?

         5 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Muttely
      This is a disappointing list – disappointing because it would have been better to show the very short list of MPs who pay for their own TV licence – however many properties they have ….

      The TV licencing Stazi appears to be onto a winner with the over 75s and their new requirement to pay for a TV licence. This is because they have a ready list of target victims to get onto and threaten and report for prosecution . Always best to go after the elderly – nice easy targets – and easier to get your commission from capita if you are a TV licencing drone .

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  10. Guest Who says:

    https://www.melaniephillips.com/bbcs-hilarious-new-comedy-production/

    “If the Pollard Report had you in stitches, this is the treat you have been waiting for”.

       12 likes

  11. Guest Who says:

    BBC moaning emole:

    ***

    UK would have to ‘face the consequences’ of no-deal Brexit

    Story detail

    The EU’s chief Brexit negotiator Michel Barnier says British counterparts “never” told him during negotiations that the UK might opt to leave without a deal, telling Panorama the country would have to “face the consequences” if it did. He’s one of several key figures to have spoken to the programme for a Britain’s Brexit Crisis special.

    The BBC’s Nick Robinson lists 10 crucial mistakes, mishaps and misunderstandings that contributed to Theresa May’s failure to deliver her promise of leaving the EU by 29 March. One factor, he says, was the lack of preparedness at the UK’s new Brexit department at the outset of the process. One senior EU figure describes the realisation of this in Brussels: “Oh my God, they haven’t got a plan… it’s like Lance Corporal Jones.

    ***

    That the BBC feel quoting endless ‘warnings’ from people we are seeking to leave behind because of the endless warnings will work is quite sweet. Like TVL threatograms.

    They are both panicking.

       21 likes

    • Jagman84 says:

      Consequences can be both negative and positive. The EU could easily end up with the former and the UK the latter. Ratifying the WA would instantly reverse that. The EU monies that are paid into the BBC ‘charity’ ensures that they will try not be too critical of the EU and so their pronouncements, concerning the evil empire, should be viewed with extreme suspicion.

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  12. Up2snuff says:

    Is it just me, after a BBC free day yesterday apart from TWT, or is the BBC renewing and stepping up its campaign against Brexit . . …

    … . . . x 10 ?

       12 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Just wait.

      Naga will be sharing soon how she personally heard from a man who danced with a girl who danced with the Prince of Wales that her flights overseas blessed by Greta will need to all soon go via Iceland.

      FACT.

         13 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      No it’s not just you – but a day free of the BBC is quite life affirming . As I write toady is going on about kids in primary schools having mental health issues leading to suicide attempts and self harming .

      Maybe treating kids like adults at too early age doesn’t help – I’d like to know the racial breakdown as importing third world kids ain’t going to help stability .

      As the current red Tory regime is about to be flushed down the toilet it will be expected that those due to take over in the cabinet will have any ‘dirt ‘ exposed to undermine a brexit cabinet . I’m sure the outgoing traitor PM will help with this .

      Boris might be forced to keep traitors such as Rudd inside the rent together with others – which is a shame . Maybe he’ll send her to NI.

      Soros Project Fear on the up again retreading previous stuff in the believe that the nonsense will have been forgotten by target victims .

         16 likes

    • Deborah says:

      That’s exactly what I thought this morning. Today programme switched off as David Gaulle came on around 7.10 supposedly to talk about short prison sentences. But I soon realised it was to talk about no deal Brexit.

      I also thought short prison sentences were not to protect the public but as a punishment for misdeeds. Silly me and obviously not the view of the Left.

         10 likes

  13. andyjsnape says:

    Not sure if this is affecting other people, but i’m struggling to find bbcbiased listed for days on google. the only way i can find the website is going via yahoo.co.uk search engine

       7 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      ajs, great motorcycle, make motorcycles great again! Andy, why don’t you bookmark the sign in page? All you need to do then is open browser, select bookmarks and click on Biased-BBC, don’t spend time searching each time you want access.

         7 likes

      • Not Gwent says:

        ajs may be making the point that future bias seekers may struggle to find this site?

           5 likes

    • Kaiser says:

      as long as I type biased bbc and only that its first on the list

      bbc biased et al doesnt work

         5 likes

  14. Dover Sentry says:

    If the BBC was pro-Brexit, can you imagine the fuss?

    If the BBC was pro-Trunp, can you imagine the fuss?

    If the BBC was anti-Global Warming, can you imagine the fuss?

       17 likes

  15. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 – The Barnier Bit.

    “The British negotiators never, ever, mentioned leaving with no deal. We know that they were not prepared. We were fully prepared.”

    If the British team never, ever, mentioned leaving without a deal, why did you waste taxpayer money preparing for it?

    The question Rick Nobinson never, ever, asked.

    I wonder why?

       18 likes

    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      U2s
      Barnier is a spineless EU stooge.
      “The British Team” was wearing blue with gold stars.
      He will soil his underwear if faced with real Brexit negotiators.
      Has the Euro collapsed yet?

         8 likes

  16. Fedup2 says:

    Bit like when the interview ended with ‘there will be consequences ‘ but Robinson didn’t ask if this was a threat , what the consequences are – or indeed – be a journalist .

       18 likes

  17. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2 – The Naughty Nick Bit

    Interviewing Jeremy Hunt, Conservative Party leadership candidate, one of two, he lets Hunt say twice that there could be a general Election long before 31 October 2019.

    Naughty Nick, previous job Political Editor of the BBC (one of the three senior Editorial Posts), should know that a minimum of six weeks is required to hold a General Election and that we also have the summer recess and the Party conference season before 31 October. I cannot imagine MPs being willing to give up their already arranged summer hols to go on the stump. If I recall correctly, the Labour Party have to agree their Manifesto for an Election through their NEC. That may not be an easy and quick task this time around.

    Nick doesn’t challenge, doesn’t ask Jeremy Hunt about that at all despite having two opportunities.

    I wonder why?

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  18. taffman says:

    “Brexit: UK ‘will have to face consequences’ in event of no deal”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-49021081
    Threats ?
    ‘Lord Haw Haw’ doing its job again?

       17 likes

    • andyjsnape says:

      BUT sandwiches will run out, and ice cream will need to be stockpiled in winter!

         13 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        ajs, and the Christmas puds and mince pies, on the shelves and in the storerooms or at the wholesalers in September, will all mysteriously evaporate according to the boss of Tesco.

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  19. Fedup2 says:

    Up2
    Tourette’s Robinson will be seen as a weak link in the bias of the BBC . He is so eager to carry the remainer left Line that he leaves himself exposed in the kind of issue you describe .

    The timetable for a General Election is so tight that it can almost be ruled out before A50 expires . So the question will be whether an extension to A50 will be asked for in order to carry out the fifth ? Vote on leaving ? Or whether the EU will righty say – you had your extension time – you wasted it – now go.

    Obviously I never thought there should have been a 2 year period in the first place – we should have been gone long a go.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, I would love for these so-called (according to Barnier) skilled and tough negotiators to say “You’ve had your Parliamentary say. It’s 1st November, you are now out, pronounced OUT.”

      But I don’t think they will be either skilled or tough enough to do that.

      The two year period is down to A.50 of the Lisbon Treaty and cannot be escaped. Have posted before, but if ‘Dave’ had had the brain and the guts to do what his Government Pro-Remain booklet said and filed Article 50 on 27 June (Monday after full result was known) and appointed Brexiteers to negotiate, we would have been out by now. Had Theresa May had had the brain and the guts to resign on 29 March instead of going off to grovel for ‘more time’ in Brussels, we would have been out by now.

      It’s a national disgrace!

      On another point, Toenail’s Pano dramadoc (more Project Fear, I’m sure) is on tonight. I’m a stranger to the TV schedules, Fed. Is Panorama on every weekday night now? When I was last watching telly regularly, 14 years back, it was a Monday night, declining audience, thing.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2
        You and me both on TV schedules . I think they put panorama on when it gets something worthwhile – so a couple of times a year

        This one sounds like it is just s pure propaganda piece for the ReichEU using the truly awful Robinson as it’s mouthpiece .

        He must win the late Gavin Esler award for most biased person ( I won’t say journo because he offends the word ).

        Pug elsewhere here does a full eviseration of Robinson -an embarrassment to his cause .

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  20. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3 Roomita Elephantitis

    Time for keen Brexiteers everywhere to hammer home the point, arising in both the Barnier and Hunt interviews, that the EU is now EUNation – a State in its own right. This was also apparent in the interview with Elizabeth von der Leyen the new EU President, incorrectly introduced, then mispronounced by Nick Robinson.

    The UK voted to be free of the EUNation

       19 likes

    • taffman says:

      Once we are out of the EU, the EU will be finished. There is dissent already , dissent described by the EU as ‘Populism’.
      The Brexit Party

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  21. taffman says:

    Listening to Al Beeb Wales this morning driving the topic of Welsh independence for the ‘Nats’.
    Having lost the Brexit propaganda battle, Al Beeb is now working on conflating Welsh Independence with Brexit. To strengthen their propaganda, they wheel on a Plaid politician and a totally useless Labour politician to debate the topic.
    Nice try Al Beeb but we can see through your childish propaganda. The EU would love to see the UK broken up – ‘United we stand , divided we will be conquered’

    Brexit is going to happen Al Beeb – Live with it!

       21 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      Blair half broke Scotland and Wales away with his devolution. The EU would help of course especially in the case of Scotland given the way they voted in 2016.

         17 likes

      • taffman says:

        Not Gwent
        That was part of the great EU plan.
        There is a lot of dissent in Wales aimed at the Welsh White Elephant that got ‘assembled’ by the skin of its teeth.
        It is a wasteful bureaucracy run like a village council which has damaged education and health in Wales .
        It should be abolished .

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      • Up2snuff says:

        NG, if UK had already left w/ or /out deal, if the IndyRef 2 came some while after, I’m not sure the SNP would win a Leave vote.

        For years, the SNP has complained that Scotland has been ruled by Westminster (aka England). The IndyRef2 Remain campaign have a very strong argument: ‘If you don’t like being ruled by England, why do you want to be ruled by Brussels?

           20 likes

        • taffman says:

          Brexit ?
          News: Retail Sales Go Up In June .
          How will Al Beeb put the negative spin on it

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  22. andyjsnape says:

    Trekking 10,000km across Africa for a football match
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-48705540

    Anyone bothered?

       18 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Aside from the usual BBC obsession with race, the key phrase in the article might be “I believe we need a borderless Africa.” Yep, the idea of an African analogue to the EU is being gently promoted, along with the general assault on the concept of national borders everywhere. Expect follow-on articles explaining how the borders of most African countries are artificial constructs anyway, imposed by European colonial powers for their own convenience and regardless of tribal and religious structures.
      Slightly ironic to read about a Zimbabwean travelling from Cairo to Cape Town and calling for a borderless zone. I believe one Cecil Rhodes had that idea first, circa 1890.

         21 likes

      • Banania says:

        In its heyday a lot of Africa was virtually borderless. You could travel the full length of the continent without leaving British-ruled territory.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      ajs, with or without ebola?

         10 likes

      • taffman says:

        Lets all hope that they don’t cross the English Channel in rubber dinghies ?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        The New York Times did a piece yesterday on the spread of Ebola. The first case in a big city has been reported . That airport has an international airport – the spread doesn’t sound controllable

        Borders can’t be closed because they are disordered .

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    • RobRoy says:

      Andy, wow, I’d trek 5,000km just to read that article, plus all the other newsworthy, enlightening and totally relevant content the all-knowing BBC put out.

         14 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        I’d like it even more if he took Linekar with him, then left him there…

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  23. Dover Sentry says:

    We will now see the BBC fighting ‘tooth-and-nail’ to Remain in the EU.

    Their lies and deceit will be quite staggering.

    Boris will encounter opposition within his Party of monumental proportions.

    Nige said back in 2016 that a battle had been won, but that the war wasn’t over. How right he was.

       29 likes

  24. taffman says:

    “Should I offset my summer holiday flights?”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48657582
    Does this include Al Beeb employees ?

       14 likes

  25. taffman says:

    “Electric car models to triple in Europe by 2021”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49022684
    Lets all hope that they have enough power stations, windmills, and solar panels ?

       19 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      Why do they call them electric cars?
      My battery drill is charged with an electrical supply, but it’s not an electric drill. My electric drill has to be plugged in during use.
      Surely these are rechargeable battery powered cars?

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  26. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Donald Trump impeachment bid fails in the House””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49027965

    Note the image of Trump that the BBC have selected.

       20 likes

    • RobRoy says:

      Dover, I actually think that’s a great photo of the President. Looks like he’s thinking.. ‘You can throw all the crappy fake news you can at me, but the majority are on my side. Keep going, it ain’t working.’

      He’s got ’em worried… very worried :0)

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  27. taffman says:

    “Donald Trump impeachment bid fails in the House”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-49027965
    Oh dear never mind how sad.
    Will Al Beeb employees be given the rest of the day off on compassionate leave.

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  28. pugnazious says:

    Nick Robinson, who is he? How did he get the job? My dog could have done a better interview with Barnier….at least he has a bit of bite whereas poodle Robinson just rolls on his back and begs for the EU treats.

    Odd to hear Hunt taking a proper Brexiteer line…he nailed Robinson when he said that Robinson had tempted Barnier to dismiss a smart border for NI as a ‘unicorn’….‘You encouraged him to call it a unicorn’…and indeed Robinson did…the whole interview with Barnier being shaped along the lines that the EU is a victim of British Brexit driven stupidity and deceit. Robinson continually alluded that to suggest we could have easily reached a deal with the EU was foolish and a lie…but of course the problem was not us but the EU. A deal with a rational partner who took both political and economic interests into account would have been possible….after all the UK is alreay in the EU and it is totally compliant with all regulations and rules already…thus, as meant by Boris and co, a deal in such a circumstance should have been easy to do. But the EU didn’t want to play…but you heard no hard questions on that put to Barnier.

    Robinson gave the game away, and spelt out the direction the BBC narrative has taken duirng the whole Brexit saga, when he exclaimed that ‘Democracy doesn’t pay the bills, doesn’t pay for schools or the NHS….it’s money that does that’. That sort of thinking could be used to justify anything couldn’t it howver unjust, however inhumane, however oppressive….like the security services ‘mission creep’….we need to do this to keep you safe….we need to know your every move, your emails and phone calls and what you had for tea….if you have nothing to hide why worry?

    Trade and the economy has been the only issue the BBC wanted to talk about, it’s how they shaped the Brexit narrative…all about trade and economics and what a disaster it will be…but then that’s the Remain narrative…the coded language they used to say ‘no-Brexit’….‘We respect the vote…but…we must prioritise jobs and prosperity…and of course not forgetting the 48%’[er…May’s parting shot….it’s not all about the winner…compromise…and look where that got her…she who wanted a general election so she could ‘win’ outright lol]….in other words Brexit will ruin the economy if we don’t stay in the single market and the customs union…ie….no Brexit.

    Brexit was never about economics, it was about sovereignty and political control and national identity…the BBC never went there, never asked what happens if we stay in the EU, what happens when the EU continues to push for ‘ever closer union’….economic, political and social take over….Britain vanishing from the world map, its culture and society crushed and its economy run from Brussels…who would tax us and then decide where to spend our money.

    Ironically, again, it took Hunt to raise issue with that approach when he said that for the EU this was, as we all know, political, about keeping the EU empire together at whatever cost to the economy, it was not ‘rational’, based on trade and economics…..Robinson even quotes Hollande in his online pro-EU anti-Brexit hit-jobsaying exaclty this…that they will punish Britain so as to stop others leaving…

    ‘Speaking to the BBC, former French President Francois Hollande says he told his fellow EU leaders straight after the referendum that the UK would have to pay a price:

    “Brexit might lead to a slippery slope where others, and particularly those under the sway of populists, might decide to follow what the British have just been doing.”‘

    This of course puts the lie to another BBC ‘reality check’ when they always claim the EU was never set on ‘punishing’ Britain.

    Barnier ironically stated that for the EU this was not about trade and economics…it was about ‘the people first’…hmmm…then why does the EU look to suppress any challenges to its existence and continue to impose the EU machine upon Europe regardless of ‘the peoples” concerns? Why does it impose a political ideology upon Europe and give no genuine say to the people witnessed by its intent to punish Brexit Britain?

    The BBC were also running a piece about previous government information being released under the 20 year rule and of course they went with EU stooge Douglas Hurd saying it was all about xenophobia…and er…We must stand up for the people of Europe against the vested interests’…..well yeah…those vested interests that seem intent on smashing Brexit and blocking the thing that ‘The People’ want.

    Another day and another stream of anti-Brexit tripe and scaremongering from the BBC….and let’s not forget kids…science will be ruined if we leave the EU…the EU sends us more money than we send them….really? No BBC ‘reality check’ on that claim oddly enough.

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    • taffman says:

      “No-deal Brexit will cause UK recession, says fiscal watchdog”
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49027889
      The Anti-Brexit Propaganda is now getting desperate.

         14 likes

    • Beltane says:

      ‘Brexit was never about economics, it was about sovereignty, political control and national identity….’
      No truer words Pugz, but isn’t that exactly what the BBC has spent the past three decades or so demolishing? Teaching the young and impressionable our shameful non-history, deriding politics, demeaning the flag and the Empire. Other than occasionally showing us the Royals at work and play – paying lip service to their charter and keeping the plebs happyish – they have rubbished every aspect of national pride, created and promoted ‘popular historians’ like Mary Beard and Hilary Mantel and provided a suitable picture to keep soap lovers happy. Pushing the right message – except that it’s left.

         15 likes

    • Mustapha Sheikup al-Beebi says:

      “… the BBC never went there, never asked what happens if we stay in the EU, what happens when the EU continues to push for ‘ever closer union’… economic, political and social take over …”

      Precisely! This is the crux of the matter. Despite all the hypotheticals about what MIGHT happen if we leave, the BBC won’t ask about what remaining actually entails. It probably won’t mean the (already bad) status quo, as the EU project demands that the people be led, through a series of steps presented as being of economic benefit to them, towards “an ever-closer union”.

      This is an epic fail by our national state-funded broadcaster. The lack of critical thinking about the state of the EU is astonishing; unless, that is, the BBC is biased in favour of the EU …

         3 likes

    • Banania says:

      Excellent summary. Thank you.

         1 likes

  29. s.trubble says:

    It just goes to show how ruthless arrogance and entitlement becomes.
    bBc announcing an ” Outreach programme” to “assist” the over 75’s recommencing payment of the licence Tax under threat of imprisonment.

    If ever there was a case for a mass campaign across the country to draw a line in the sand with this bunch it is surely now.

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  30. TrueToo says:

    Just watched Boris’ opening gambit on the LBC debate. Laughed at his demolition of the gloom and doom scenario pushed by Remoaners. If I have this right, he mocked the fake fear of a shortage of whey to make Mars Bars the children depend upon, and said, when there is a will there is a whey!

    Later he bent right down and picked up a smoked kipper and mocked the fact that the EU has ruled that each one delivered must be accompanied by an icepack – which he also picked up and displayed to the audience.

    Then he and Dale joked about shaking him by the kipper hand and Johnson said that the kipper is not a red herring. The audience was really enjoying his jokes.

    That’s all I’ve watched so far, but I’ve decided that Boris Johnson has missed his calling. He is actually a comedian, but so what. If businessman Trump can become President, comedian Boris can become PM.

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  31. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”No-deal Brexit will cause UK recession, says fiscal watchdog””

    “”The Office for Budget Responsibility (OBR) said economic growth would fall by 2% by the end of 2020 if it left the bloc without an agreement.””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49027889

    So, who founded the OBR?

    Let’s see…

    Purpose: To provide independent and authoritative analysis of the UK’s public finances
    Founder: George Osborne
    Founded: May 2010

    Chairperson: Robert Chote
    …he was president of Cambridge University Social Democrats, and, after the merger of the SDP with the Liberals, chair of Cambridge University Social and Liberal Democrats.

    https://obr.uk/

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Chote

    No bias there, then?

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  32. StewGreen says:

    TalkRadio ..John expert talking about BBC run by elites
    Piers Corbyn coming on with his views on Greta
    Rod Liddle coming on later

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    • Dystopian says:

      Rod Liddle on Talk Radio next to tell us how he thinks Brexit will never be allowed to happen.
      Mike Graham inviting calls to discuss on 0344 4991000

         8 likes

  33. theisland says:

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/9530209/french-fisherman-plans-no-deal-brexit/

    Oh dear – we won’t take back our waters because the French will stamp their tiny feet and cause chaos at Calais.

    Let them.

    Yesterday (Brexit Committee) Steve Barclay said in the event of a no-deal Brexit legally the UK would have control [of our own territorial waters] but the government would try to agree a “continuity approach”.

    BoJo needs to get rid of a lot of people. Unfortunately he won’t. He’ll cave.

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    • Kaiser says:

      so the UK government is open to being blackmailed by french fishermen

      weak weak weak

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      • Scroblene says:

        It’s OK, Kaiser, because Amber Rudd (MP for two off-shore/river based fishing fleets in her constituency, Hastings and Rye), has changed her mind again and decided to keep her seat and become a Brexiteer at long last!

        Too late love, you just spout ‘support’ and do absolutely nothing for our UK fishermen, and your own fleets.

        Gone yet?

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  34. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/17/democrats-trump-race-baiting-votes
    Guardian Opinion US Elections 2020
    Wed 17 Jul 2019 12.36 BST

    Democrats are right to condemn Trump’s racism, but they risk walking into his trap
    Jonathan Freedland

    [Naturally the “racism” was generated by the “Democrats” only quoting part of the Trump statement and then basing their response on their misquotation.

    As demonstrated here on BBBC several times in the past few days.

    The “progressive” “Democrat” attitude is “We love America so much we want to change everything about it.”
    (Borrowed from a comment.)

    What has been happening in the West for decades is lefty, self-styled Democrats, cannot get enough votes to form Governments.
    Being lefties, they blame, not themselves and their disgusting, mass murdering historical record, but the voters.
    The Left has a solution to ignorant, uneducated, intransigent voters.
    Import millions of non-Western, usually anti-Western, aliens and bribe them with housing, benefits and whatever else is required to obtain their votes.
    To ensure the success of this scheme the Left encourages the imports to commit electoral fraud.

    This is Colonialism, on a massive scale.

    To maintain a uniform historical response to the new colonialism the Left should be denouncing it with the same vehemence that it denounces European colonialism. Where a statue of someone, who knew somebody, who had a cousin, who had a friend, whose neighbour owned a slave, must be torn down.

    Remember the Kaffir Wars, Mr Freedland? The Maori Wars, The Apache Wars, The Zulu Wars, all the other wars where indigenous peoples violently resisted European Colonisation? Resistance led by Chaka, Geronimo et al.

    This is the difference Mr Freedland, not only are European leaders not leading the wars of resistance, they are responsible for the colonisation. For the only time in recorded history.

    Brexit is the most significant act in the British war of resistance. It must be followed by compulsory de-colonisation. With or without, the approval of the Left and the Colonists.]

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  35. Roland Deschain says:

    The BBC is in full #OperationFear mode today.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      And we have a late entry.

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      • G says:

        Happily, it will lower the sea level Worldwide when the UK implodes and, what’s left sinks beneath the waves…….
        Presumably that’s why the Marxist outfit, E Rebellion is using boats around the country to make their point?
        Well, coming here to exchange views with like minded souls has been great but, as is said, (certainly by our Chancellor), ‘all good things come to an end…….’

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  36. Cassandra says:

    So the compassionate BBC are launching an outreach programme to help the over seventy-fives…

    35xyo6.jpg

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    • taffman says:

      If you don’t pay the fine for not paying the Telly Tax you go to jail.
      If you go to jail you watch TV for free?

         23 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        You can always say you’ll pay by cheque, then never open the door!

        Put the wrong date on just to be sure too.

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        • Lucy Pevensey says:

          A few years back I attempted to set up payment by standing order. Beeby doesn’t like that. They don’t accept payment by standing order. It’s obvious they don’t like the people who pay for them having any control over their own payments.

          I have a dislike of direct debit. To this day I’ve never paid anything by dodgy DD. It’s not right that they should dictate the form of payment they will accept. Standing orders are perfectly legal financial transactions. Since the BBC warning emails are ‘no reply’ you cannot communicate with them regarding your licence payment (which they chase you for with threats via email)

          It’s a one way communication with threats from them insisting you pay them or be fined/convicted. Yet they will NOT accept a SO. This fact alone should be enough to give people the right to withhold payment. As far as I know, no one has ever challenged this. The Communist BBC will link you to a page telling you that there are many easy ways to pay- as long as it’s their way.

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  37. Roland Deschain says:

    And here we have the next media swarm.

    BBC to pile on in 5,4,3,2,1….

    No doubt with plenty on what Trump has to say but nothing on Omar’s past utterances.

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  38. taffman says:

    Breaking Brexit News: Retail Sales Go Up In June .
    How will Al Beeb put the negative spin on it

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    • Scroblene says:

      They’ll visit Tunbridge Wells, and see how a town centre really does hit the skids.

      They have a ‘studio’ there, more like a glass cupboard, so no doubt the grating tones of the sneering bunch will all crowd in, bringing the champagne on expenses.

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      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        Scroblene,
        That BBC Southeast building right over the road from the rail station with the constant queue of “Asian” taxi drivers. It always makes me sick when I see it.

           15 likes

        • Scroblene says:

          Same here, Lucy.

          The stink of stale curry just makes me puke!

          The bus stop just over from there is a safer bet, except when the schools chuck out…

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    • gb123 says:

      ‘Panic Buying Hits the High Street Due to No Deal Brexit!!!!’

         14 likes

    • Beltane says:

      Easy taff. All the stuff stockpiled ready for the savage impact of March 29 will have been sold off at rock bottom, artificially creating an economic boost. Soup kitchen and food bank users, the low paid and those on benefits will enjoy a short-term rise in living standards before crashing into total penury on October 31. The rich, meanwhile, will remain idle and rich and do nothing for the economy.

         13 likes

      • Beltane says:

        I should have explained that ‘the rich’ does not include all the vastly over-paid BBC employees, ‘stars’ and their ilk. They, obviously, deserve every well-earned penny and we should be grateful for every minute spent on our behalf to ensure that entertainment and informed opinion remain at the highest levels.
        ‘The rich’ in this instance means all the others.

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  39. StewGreen says:

    I imagine school breaks up
    and four kids get in a car in London to drive to a climate protest in Cardiff or Bristol or Leicester
    One is a British born protester, 2 are their East European mates
    and one is a BBC trainee who feeds the story back into the BBC.

    Look at the names in the BBC Cardiff story
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-49015981

    The Bristol one did a Summer project in Africa last year.

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    • StewGreen says:

      The BBC trainee probably did this one
      “Should I offset my summer holiday flights?”
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48657582

         10 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        I had a spare few seconds, Stew and looked at this…

        One line stands out: –

        “These (offsets) are part shares in projects that work to reduce carbon being emitted elsewhere, usually in poorer parts of the world.”

        I expect the Chinese are quivering in their boots at all the funding they’ll get soon…

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  40. StewGreen says:

    @IDAU asks \\ Did anyone watch the Alinsky refresher course BBC XR programme? //

       9 likes

  41. taffman says:

    Thanks to Mrs chamberlain and Citizen Cant knife crime is at an all time high.

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  42. davylars says:

    Any reports from the BBC?

    ‘Icebreaker headed for North Pole turned back by thicker ice than expected.’

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/07/17/icebreaker-headed-for-north-pole-turned-back-by-thicker-ice-than-expected/

       24 likes

  43. NISA says:

    Isn’t it annoying that the only body recorded as being opposed to the discontinuation of free TV licences for over 75s immediately shout for the taxpayer to stump up, rather than calling for the BBC to honour their undertakings given when the government last approved a programme of licence fee increases?

    Caroline Abrahams, Age UK’s Charity Director, said:
    “Really this is not at all surprising since there is no reason whatsoever to think our national broadcaster is equipped to administer a welfare benefits scheme. We’ve said all along that this is the Government’s job and that’s why we call on our new Prime Minister to live up to the Conservatives’ manifesto pledge and continue to fund the entitlement.”

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  44. ObiWan says:

    The BBC asks that all-important question (I know it’s been troubling me no end): Should I Offset My Summer Holiday Flights?

    ‘Flying off somewhere nice this summer? Now feeling guilty? You wouldn’t be alone. The continuing campaign by teenage climate activist Greta Thunberg to get everyone to reduce their carbon emissions has prompted some soul-searching over when, and whether, it is OK to fly. In Scandinavia there is even a word for it – “flygskam” – flight shame.

    If you don’t want to add to the carbon in the atmosphere, you could, like Greta, take the train instead. But if you are have already booked your fight, or if flying is the only way of getting to your destination, you can instead donate to a carbon offsetting scheme.’
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48657582

    The thing about communists, especially the Green variant, is that they never tire of rent-seeking, robbery or theft. They want your money, one way or another. The BBC is, of course, all too happy to aid-and-abet this duplicitous behaviour by promoting a non-problem it thinks can be solved by fleecing naive and uninformed proles.

    In response, I will never tire of reminding these malignants that not only will I not be ‘offsetting’ my upcoming return flight to Vietnam, but I will, along the way, be re-reading one of my favourite magazine articles: https://onenewsnow.com/science-tech/2018/09/22/30-yrs-later-global-warming-still-hasnt-sunk-maldives

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  45. Terminal Moraine says:

    Hashem Abedi — brother of Manchester Arena bomber Salman Abedi — extradited from Libya yesterday and now in court charged with 22 counts of murder.

    BBC relegated the story to half-way down the News > UK page. Couldn’t fit both that on the home page and live updates from the Manchester Film Festival, so they went for the latter

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  46. Lucy Pevensey says:

    More from Twitterstan. Being black won’t entitle you to the race card if you have conservative views.

       13 likes

  47. Terminal Moraine says:

    As an alternative to MSM, filmmaker Ami Horowitz shows what quality of investigative journalism could be done on (presumably) a low budget. (His video on the migrant caravan from Mexico is also worth watching)

       6 likes

  48. TrueToo says:

    Years ago I had a debate on a BBC blog with a lefty junior lecturer, British I think, who was brimming with enthusiasm at the prospect of going off to a distant land to indoctr… er, sorry, teach young university students.

    He was bitter towards the US, claiming that the US happily invaded Iraq but would never invade Sudan because there was no oil.

    My mildly sarcastic reply that Sudan was in fact swimming in oil and that he should perhaps choose a different line of work caused him great offence. He probably complained bitterly to the BBC, as a moderator deleted my comment.

    What was the eager young lecturer’s chosen field?

    History.

    I despair, I really do.

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