Start the Week Open Thread 8 July 2019

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  1. andyjsnape says:

    Hong Kong extradition bill ‘is dead’ says Carrie Lam

    then the “report” goes on to say

    But she STOPPED SHORT of saying it had been withdrawn completely, as protesters have been demanding

    So my question to this great reporter/reporting is… IS IT STOPPED DEAD OR NOT???!!!!

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      Good question Andy. I’m reminded of an old song from the sixties which opened with “Hey, Carrie Lam what’s your game now can any body play?”

      Well not quite but almost. Perhaps an amended version should be re-released.

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  2. JamesArthur says:

    R4 – it is CoCo time … oh the BBC love a loser….I wonder why they are focussing on her so much?

    Oh now a piece on women talking about sex education in the Arab world…..no mention of the word Muslim….but did say honour killings are more accepted than homosexuality…no mention of Muslim or Islam.. How can you do a piece on this without using the words?

    Now a piece on destruction of Afgan artifacts by ISIS..
    is this the Arab news service?

    Anyone heard on BBC that over 300 people have died in Melbourne from flu?

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  3. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    I see the excellent blogger Politico has started proceedings to get the BBC reporter Lucy Manning charged for harassing Tommy Robinson outside a court. She did exactly what he was arrested for but the police haven’t taken any action. Strange that.
    He needs signatures to help him. The proof and the details are all on his video if some kind person more techy savvy than I would like
    to post it I think It would be much appreciated by all.
    (but perhaps not the BBC)

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    • theisland says:

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      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        Thanks for posting that, The Island. I promise to get around to learning how to do it one day!

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      • Fedup2 says:

        The island
        Now that is clever – and Ms Manning sounds like she should be ‘gripping the rail ‘ . I hope that when the CPS examines the evidence they will prosecute . But then it’s the BBC – and as someone here last week explained – it is that corrosive ‘strict liability ‘ which comes into play –

        I wonder if that poster has a view ….. ?

        I suppose the BBC will rely on the not restriction on reporting – which TR should have applied for …just to slap the kangaroo court and system …

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        • Cider Ed says:

          Lucy Manning should not be the only BBC employee that should face criminal action surely John Sweeney should face prosecution for using television licence payers money to make a Panorama program about Tommy Robinson that was based on lies and bribery. Surely it must be a crime to use our television licence money to produce a biased and untruthful character assassination of any person, especially using the underhand methods that Sweeney and the BBC were using. Tommy completely exposed Sweeney who was made to look a complete fool. What Tommy Robinson did or said did very little to influence any judgement in that trial and so if he is sentenced to prison that is a completely disproportionate punishment. If Tommy goes to prison then perhaps a campaign should be started for Sweeney to face a trial; because in my opinion his crime is greater.

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  4. Dover Sentry says:

    Mentioned a few times elsewhere.

    Brexit voters have been vilified so much by the BBC that they are reluctant to support Brexit in conversation with others.

    Leave voters are open in their condemnation as they feel that they are not only right but supported by most of the media.

    This has a corrosive effect on free speech.

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  5. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1

    Has the programme been spoofed again? Post-7.30a.m. paper review, item immediately after, some Uni ‘research’ – presented by a Doc (probably Phd) who didn’t seem terribly certain what he was talking about. Martha had to suggest things to him. At the end we get his name Dr William Angordon (pronounced Andgordon) from Derby University.

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    • gb123 says:

      Derby University in Blair-speak. Derbyshire College of Higher Education before that. The higher Education establishment has become a mess where institutes battle for University Charters and higher academic pay packets for little or no benefit to the country. The quality of people being interviewed who can barely put two logical sentences together is the end result. Case in point. Newnham College, Cambridge producing the master of mathematical fantasy, Dianne Abbot.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        gb, it just all seemed a bit weird. When I heard the name and that of the Uni (am aware of Derby’s parrot past) the alarm bells rang.

        It could be genuine but if I recall correctly the TOADY Prog has a history of being spoofed.

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    • Deborah says:

      Some time before 7.30 The Today programme had an interview with a retired U.K. ambassador re the leaked emails. Is Sir Christopher Meyer the only retired ambassador the U.K. has? Or is it that he says the things that BBC producers want to hear?

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    • Banania says:

      “Doc (probably Phd)” PhD & and DPhil should always be called Mr/Mrs/Miss. As a tutor once said to me, “It is enough to be an MA and a gentleman”.

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  6. JamesArthur says:

    Oh sorry I am having a bad morning…I actually though R4 were doing something interesting with Jim Al-khalili about Richard the 3rd
    but oh no..they have to get in about sexism in science….Especially as she had no real examples just a generic go at men in science..and a bit about white supremacists…oh dear….why do they spoil an otherwise interesting piece with their unnecessary narratives?

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  7. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #2

    Sticking with ‘science’ – Elephantitis Inroomis.

    Martha has a lengthy chat with an artist, Olafur Eliasson. This came after JustRemainIn’s cosy chat with Jeremy Hunt-supporting William Hague who supports Jeremy Hunt in the Conservative Party leadership contest and hopes that Jeremy Hunt will beat Boris Johnson to become Party leader.

    Needless to say the subject of Global Warming & Climate Change got a mention (along with, amazingly, Brexit!) but Martha did not ask the artist – who is flying off to Iceland to take some snaps of glaciers and ice – about his carbon footprint.

    I wonder why?

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  8. Doobster78 says:

    Hate preacher Lammy up early and tweeting his poisonous bile.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      I think that Lammy’s posts are written for him.

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    • Dystopian says:

      #CCBGB

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    • Jeff says:

      “…a race baiting, shit stirring, uk-hating, expense-grabbing, harvard-attending, dickhead…”
      Absolutely spot on!!

      And don’t forget this arse wipe is now bleating about Widdie’s speech that briefly referenced slavery.
      What about Lammy’s utterly atrocious comments likening members of the ERG to Nazis?

      The man has no class, no sense of irony and very little between the ears.
      If he had two brains he’d be twice as stupid.

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      • pertelote says:

        if you want a good chuckle: Lammy on Mastermind(!)
        e.g.
        Q: Who succeeded Henry VIII?
        A: Henry VII

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        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          Lammy is so stupid he doesn’t even know he’s stupid. That’s what you get for all that affirmative action. The average stupid person would know better than to go on Mastermind and show himself up. Lammy doesn’t even have that level of self awareness. He’s been told he is special all his life. He didn’t realise they meant special needs.

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        • vlad says:

          Moron.

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  9. G.W.F. says:

    Has anyone else experienced a disappearance of posts here? I am not referring to censorship of content or bad language but just disappearance of posts. Most recently I posted a short vid of a mugging which followed a comment about Khan’s lawless London. There was no bad language or hint of racism. My comment vanished. Often I look back to see if comments are added and this time after an hour there were no comments and after two or more hours the post had gone.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      GWF
      Not me Guv – if I take down a post I say so – I’m being a bit more draconian now because it was taking to long to go into posts and edit words which might offend ‘upset .

      This means I take out the whole thing now . I , personally , cannot be offended by words as I have heard them all – but it is the overall legitimacy of the site which is more important .

      I’m sunning myself overseas for a while but will go into the deleted posts and see what happened to yours .

      The threat of violence towards individuals can be a bit of an issue and they tend to be pre edited because some how the software detects it and emails moderators personally off the site . Some days I can get a number to be trashed or approved .

      So for those contemplating volunteering to moderate that’s another issue for you and the use of your time … I thought about dumping the moderating game recently – particularly when some posters get personal and argue . In real life , face to face , I’d probably invite them ‘outside ‘ for a friendly resolution .

      I will get back to you on your post ….if I can find it …as after a while the software dumps stuff permanently ….

      On the subject ok lawless London – shooting and stabbing in Finsbury Park last night which made the news for some reason – it’s par for the course around there – but it is the Socialist Republic of Islington ….

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Fedup
        Not suggesting it is you boss and I endorse all you say on comments and bad language It seems like a glitch of some sort.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          GWF
          No worry – I wasn’t trying to appear defensive – there’s too much of that in the world – I was just trying to explain generally … could you tell me when the post was ? As in -weekend – stat-or midweek as I started to trawl back a bit but couldn’t see anything similar …

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I wrote a post the other day which upped and vanished like a fart in the wind as soon as I pressed “Post Reply”. I did wonder if I’d accidentally stumbled on some obscure verboten word. Fortunately I always copy before posting as a precaution against just that.

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  10. andyjsnape says:

    EU subsidy loss could wipe out farms, farmers say amid Brexit uncertainty

    No way the eu.bc has done ANOTHER news “report” on how bad things will be.

    Anyone remember the time they did a report on sandwiches will run out due to Brexit!

    Pathetic!

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      How many times does it have to be said: if you are paying a tenner to get a fiver, you are not getting a good deal!

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  11. Mackers says:

    Expect plenty more Kim Darroch types to undermine Boris when he’s prime minister. He doesn’t fit with the globalist, Eu and satan loving, short sighted foolish agenda.

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  12. JamesArthur says:

    R4 button now off.. Wimmins hour – FFS dumb dumb dumb – 3 women talking about love Island and the ‘girl code’ with comments from what I can only describe as an airhead about the boy code (she read about it!!) why not ask some ‘boys on the show instead of having some idiot throw in words like patriarchy completely out of context.
    It used to be known for its intelligent debates….What are the listening figures for R4? Getting lower by the minute I think..

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      James – I think -in the name of the beeb’s much-beloved principle of ‘equality’, that we should demand a “Men’s Hour”, (and I have).
      This W H is blatant gender discrimination! (It is also Garvey et al,having a free ticket to sprout endless trashy propaganda!)

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      • Deborah says:

        I think Maxi once posted me to an obscure programme on an obscure station that belongs the ‘BBC’ family when I suggested Men’s Hour. Couldn’t be bothered to go listen, but I guess it would be as little interest to men who read this site as Women’s Hour is of interest to us females.

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  13. andyjsnape says:

    the beeb feels it can report this..
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48919085

    Kettle black

    PS why is nobody banning the beeb

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  14. MarkyMark says:

    1938 … History Book written and Islam complains.
    1989 … Novel written and burnt in the streets of Bradford under Police Protection.
    2019 … 52 Murdered 14 years earlier, labelled as LOST and not mentioned.

    A little known historical precedent which dates back to August 1938 unsettles the perception that the Rushdie affair was the starting point of a series of challenges to creative freedom in the UK. Members of the Jamiat-ul-Muslimin, a British Muslim organisation whose members were predominantly working-class South Asians, gathered at one of their regular meetings in King’s Hall on Commercial Road, east London. Here, according to the Guardian of 13 August 1938, they ‘ceremoniously committed to the flames’ a copy of H. G. Wells’s A Short History of the World because of references to the Prophet Muhammad which they considered offensive. This was followed by a protest march by members of the organisation to India House, Aldwych, which accommodated the Indian High Commission in London’s West End. Contrary to the public perception that Britain’s Muslim minority began to find a voice of dissent only as recently as the 1980s, here we have evidence of a group of working-class East End Muslims marching west into the heart of London to assert their rights as Muslims and plead their cause with government officials.

    A Short History of the World, first published in 1922, promised to be a concise form of world history for the general reader. In a chapter entitled ‘Muhammad and Islam’, Wells makes several disparaging remarks about the Prophet Muhammad, pronouncing him a man of ‘very considerable vanity, greed, cunning, self-deception and quite sincere religious passion’. Although he states that Islam was an empowering and inspirational religion, he makes sweeping generalisations about the religion. Wells’s view of the Qur’an was no less damning: for him it was ‘unworthy of its alleged Divine authorship’.

    Muslims Protest Against H. G. Wells Book in 1930s Britain

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      … and they’re off again

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      • JamesArthur says:

        BBC seem quite capable of telling Christians it is wrong to say things like this..hate crime I think they call it… doesn’t apply here apparently

        Hypocrisy of the Left rears its ugly head…which victim group to support..

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  15. Doobster78 says:

    These Remain MP’s are so far up their own backsides !! The idiots just do not understand the word “irony”.

    Chukka and Soubry and the crazy gang, wanting another vote but don’t want to stand for by-elections was a cracker and now this ………

    Not many comments but all against him. This guy , as we know, is a bell of the highest order.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      For grieve to talk about ‘the end of democracy ‘ for the will on the majority to be carried out made me laugh out loud when I heard the interview .

      I know he has a home in France so there’s a lot of self interest about but he truly has no sense of irony . He used arcane scams in cahoots with the speaker and when technical methods are turned on him he screams like a lady dog .

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  16. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3

    Missed first half of programme and the last one-sixth as I was on here. Am sure the subject came up at different points, not just in the Hague* interview. If President Trump has said what he has said about ‘doing business’ with our man in Washington, is not the correct diplomatic response for the PM to recall him?

    Should that not have been done at the outset, anyway, as the Ambassador’s standing has been compromised by the leak. He would wish to re-assure London that it did not come from the Embassy. He would want to take an interest in the investigation, you would think, would you not? He would need to establish that his position was secure as far as communication is concerned.

    This is a strange business. I can’t wait for the BBC to do something on cyber security tomorrow or Thursday on the TOADY Prog and they will probably, almost certainly, forget about this e-mail leak completely.

    *Hilarious BBC Predictive Text moment as Justin reads from his screen prior to the Hague interview and the preview with Part-time Kuenssberg: “In a moment I will be talking with Lord Hay.”

    On the subject of Part-time’s contributions this morning am tempted to do a separate post but she really seemed to be talking rubbish about the Ambassador and diplomacy and procedure. Talking rubbish and she’s the Political Editor! Unless it is all changed in Diplomacy since I was a lad. Anyone else agree? Disagree?

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  17. BRISSLES says:

    Now confirmed that Labour are to promote themselves as the ‘remain’ party, and will seek another referendum if there is a No Deal or a Tory Deal to get Brexit through.

    What I cant understand is that most Labour voters that I know say we cant get out of Europe quick enough. Especially those in the North of England where Labour have a stranglehold but equally voted to Leave in their millions ! so what the hell are Labour thinking ?

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    • digg says:

      This is not the Labour Party speaking BRISSLES, this odour is coming from the small cabal of London-centric pretend marxists who couldn’t care less what happens North of the M25 and also want to be in line for nice sinecures in Brussels in due course if they follow advice being given to them from the nice folk over there.

      How good it would be if the majority of Labour MP’s not agreeing with this decided to split and do a new party thing. Won’t happen because both pieces would then go to room 101 like the Change party did.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Well Digg, if that bunch in London stick to this mandate then they’ll get slaughtered in a general election, as clearly they have no idea how strong feelings are in the North, – immigration being the no.1 gripe. I have relatives who tell me so. Those in London should try living cheek by jowl in Rotherham, where Pakistanis/indians/Romanians/Polish/Bulgarians have all decided to move in and set up Mafia shops, taking over the town. The Labour council have just rolled over on their backs and let it happen.

        Strange how this scenario would never occur in Chipping Norton.

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        • Helen Richardson says:

          Not justifying it, but it might help if what is left of the local, indigenous population could bring themselves to stop voting Labour.

          No point in voting for the same-old, then spending the following five years moaning about it.

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        • Banania says:

          “Strange how this scenario would never occur in Chipping Norton.”
          I think it is going to happen everywhere. The process has hardly got under way.

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          • pertelote says:

            ..like night follows day Banania as you say..Luton ..Aylesbury ..Oxford..er Chip… er!?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Bris
      What Labour is thinking – is that they got away with fixing the Peterborough bi election by false postal voting – so they can similarly fix ‘ Brexit ‘ labour constituencies and turn them into remainers .

      Further – they’ve calculated that the Brexit right will split between Red Tory and Brexit Party giving more constituencies .

      The future of Britain is bright red . Time to buy a good suitcase and a one way ticket ?

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  18. digg says:

    Front page of Beeb website running with a “Leicester Chippy closing due to owners environment concerns” (Rubbish in the Sea).

    At first I thought just another of Aunties “how to be good at human” or “I’ve seen the light!” lessons.

    Turns out that it wasn’t a chippie at all just a recently opened and ill-thought-out poser – hipster restaurant that obviously crashed and burned.

    Maybe they should try an eel and pie cafe next or even a curry house, there can’t be many of them in Leicester can there?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-48905485

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      d
      “Owner Aatkin Anadkat ”
      The world’s leading lying broadcaster does its misleading headline act for the zillionth time, gives the ethnics some free publicity and does the same for “Friends” of the Earth.
      Neutral, impartial, even handed and similar synonyms are not required when describing the activities of the BBC.

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    • Vonbedda says:

      Hey Digg,

      it’s clear to see the photo with the place packed is probably like opening day.

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      • digg says:

        LastChanceSaloon and Vonbedda – I get a warm glow when i see other people seeing exactly what I see!

        The BBC really tried hard to get as many of their looney principles into this non-story as possible then banged it on their front page hoping people would only see “their” message rather than the real facts.

        Plus, I tend to avoid anywhere where they use V E R Y – S P A C ED – O U T capital letters in their posters, a sure sign of pretension without substance. Don’t know why but it seems to follow!

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  19. theisland says:

    Posted on previous page.
    Please watch.

    TR asks Trump administration for help

    12 min clip from The Alex Jones Show.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      theisland
      This plea, revealing the UK Government and media as enemies of freedom, should remind us where to vote in any future election. Forget Boris for his cowardly silence on the issue – one which is fundamental to our hard won rights – vote for a party that is concerned. And I am not sure if Farage is much use.

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  20. Right Angle says:

    Mirror, mirror on the wall, who is the most biased BBC presenter of all?

    If you have a Twitter account, you can vote here:

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/who-is-the-most-biased-bbc-presenter-you-vote/

    Sadly, they have only 4 names to choose from. I am sure regular posters here would be able to think of at least a couple more …

    And if Sky News were included, my first nomination would be Beth Rigby. Her dislike, nay hatred, of Brexit and Brexiteers is quite painfully obvious. She can actually say, “You have brought shame to your party …” (to Boris Johnson), and during one of the Conservative leadership rounds, the first name that came out of her mouth was “Rory Stewart”. Since when should someone in the bottom half of a contest be mentioned first?

    Anyway, do cast your vote!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Maitless is in the lead at 49% – but when the postal votes turn up the counting crew – led by a ms D. Abbot – will turn this into a negative number using a three sided quadratic equation .

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “You have brought shame to your party …”

      This is the sort of question that would routinely be asked at PMQs. That only Johnson was asked speaks volumes about where the dwarfs stood in the race.

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  21. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/07/08/rees-mogg-never-brexit-tories-tactics-risk-catastrophic-pm-corbyn/
    I read elsewhere that the UK has left the EU already, twice.
    If Boris accepts this, what are Grievance and the other traitors-in-chief going to do about it?
    Demand a referendum to rejoin?

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  22. theisland says:

    UKIP’s NEC has passed a motion to prevent Gerard Batten standing for the leadership.
    @GerardBattenMEP

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    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      Correct Island. It is a huge political suicide that has hit the party like a bomb. They are banning the current leader from standing again despite his many successes in areas such as membership increase, putting the party in the black again, and his courageous performances against the hysterically hostile msm.
      Members are asking to be told what is going on. For the moment it seems that he has been banned for bringing the party into disrepute by associating with Tommy. But some people see it as a move by the Faragist faction to close the party down or make it subservient to the Brexit Party. Whatever, I will say the NEC have delivered either a scurrilous but masterful death blow or just made a political error worthy only of a cartload of morons.

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  23. taffman says:

    Despite Brexit ……………
    “BMW has given a boost to the UK car industry by confirming that the production of its new electric Mini will start in Cowley in November.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48921455

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  24. Doobster78 says:

    If ever you were in any doubt of how superior Remainers believe they are …. here is a tweet, retweeted by Mr BBC himself Gary Lineker.

    YOU PEOPLE ????? YOU PEOPLE ??????

    We are scum class in the eyes of Campbell, Lineker and co. Disgusting.

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  25. andyjsnape says:

    Cressida Cowell: New Children’s Laureate wants to ‘take on TV’

    thats luvly

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  26. Roland Deschain says:

    Uh-oh. Jon Sopel’s head will shortly explode.

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    • Doobster78 says:

      Brilliant. Twitter is made for President Trump.

      Isn’t it amazing how many folk line up to agree that he is “inept” … yet like he states, booming economy, record employment, record BLACK employment (but he’s a fanatical racist ???), stock market making record highs, highest approval rating of his Presidency so far right now, diplomatic relations commenced with North Korea that no-one else has managed, putting the american people first despite the lefty meltdowns ….. yep ….. really “inept”

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    • Roland Deschain says:

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      • G.W.F. says:

        But May, and it seems, the BBC together with senior Tories, have confidence in him. Now that tells us why we should dump the Tories, even with Boris in charge.

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  27. taffman says:

    Trouble in the EU , first Germany and now Italy ?
    ‘The house of cards’ is about to fall………………………
    “While it’s easy to get distracted by trade wars or Brexit uncertainty, there’s a financial iceberg on the horizon that could threaten all our well-being.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48884517

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  28. StewGreen says:

    I made a the #SocialistJustice hashtag
    to point out the routine Socialist trope of being really *hatey*, when they think they are actually supporting social justice.
    (and chose it so they don’t realise I am criticising them)
    Here the guy has created an account nastily named after Isabel Oakshott

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    • StewGreen says:

      Lib-tribe push things like this charity helpline aimed at under 18s
      Yet every day the vast majority of hateyness I see on Twitter is from members of lib-tribe

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        I witnessed a hate crime.
        It was the hateful way ‘ambassador’ Darroch referred to Donald Trump and his administration. Full of hate, if you look carefully.
        Do I call May? She thinks he’s great…

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      • vlad says:

        I wish to report myself for hating the beeb. Where should i hand myself in?

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        • taffman says:

          vlad
          Into the nearest gay bar.

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        • Zelazek says:

          In 1984, Tom Parsons is proud that his daughter denounces him to the Thought Police for saying “Down with Big Brother” in his sleep. That scene becomes disturbingly less preposterous by the day. Just a few sensible years ago anyone going around saying, “Stop Hate!” would have been locked up.

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  29. andyjsnape says:

    Chinese ethnic group biggest earners in the UK

    Anybody bothered?

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Is it because they are hard working people who value education, and don’t waste half the day worshipping a paedophile?

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    • Zelazek says:

      I am pleased that the Chinese do better than white Brits on virtually every metric. Why? Because it demolishes the argument of the leftists that this country is racist. The Left cannot explain the anomaly using the racism narrative. If they pushed their thinking just a little further they would of course realise that the reasons for the poor performance of blacks lie with blacks themselves, and they might then be able to take measures that would actually help them. But it’s hard for lefties to break out of their oppressor/oppressed mindset.

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  30. Doobster78 says:

    Another lovely piece from our impartial National Broadcaster .

    Just making sure that everyone knows there are several ways the traitors can try and stop No Deal.

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    • Dystopian says:

      “What is no deal?”

      No deal is leaving the single market, leaving the customs union and leaving the jurisdiction of the ECJ as per David Cameron’s £9million leaflet. No deal is what 17.4 million people voted for in 2016.

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      • Burgsey says:

        The daft thing is, sort Brexit and the Tory’s would be pretty much guaranteed 17.4m votes at the next election, enough for a big majority in Parliament. Simples.

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  31. Doobster78 says:

    Still race baiting !! £200K per year expenses Lammy claims !!

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    • Dystopian says:

      1:44 “I’ve got two Malcolm X posters”

      Malcolm X. Real name Malcolm Little. Muslim. Preached violence and racism. Says it all really.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Antisemitic remarks he’s made in the past as vice-president of the NUS include tweeting “Nah you won’t mate. It’ll cost u a pound #jew” and questioning Israel’s right to exist. But he’s apologised and now wants to help kids to not make the same mistakes…?

      Ah Mr Milani… your book collection betrays you…

      (at 2:07)

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  32. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  33. digg says:

    BBC seem to be keen on getting legal cannabis out there.

    “Teens less likely to use cannabis when it’s legal, US study finds…”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48921265

    Could it be to take the pressure off their own staff maybe?

    As a younger man I did not indulge myself, however I did rub shoulders with a number of young people who did and have to say that my recollection of them was that almost to a man they were sluggish minded, dysfunctional and paranoid and exhibiting strange body language compared to non-users so whats not to like for the BBC?

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    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      Digg
      I don’t think the Government will go down the path of legalising cannabis – so that you can toddle off down the shops to buy it from licenced and approved skunk providers. In the same way the Government isn’t really going to deal with the huge benefits fraud bill in any meaningful way.

      Certain communities have too much to lose by these being reformed. Their economic system relies on cash from those sources. And they will riot.

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  34. Mackers says:

    Sick of hearing the conservative party is a broad church. Get rid of the effing liberals pronto.

       18 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      We have 7 socialist parties in this country
      only UKIP was serious about not throwing money around.

         14 likes

  35. andyjsnape says:

    Fish and chip restaurant closes amid owners’ ‘environment concerns’

    the beeb reports that the fish & chip shop is up for sale…. Guess it might re-open as a Fish & Chip Shop lol

    any point in the report/story

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  36. StewGreen says:

    Betrayed video from Facebook

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  37. digg says:

    New BBC Guidelines look like being a huge problem for most of it’s staff and presenters.

    So Gary Linker (amongst many, many others) need to read this section:

    Section 4 – Impartiality – includes a clause headed ‘News, Current Affairs and Factual Output’.

    “4.3.11 Presenters, reporters and correspondents are the public face and voice of the BBC – they can have a significant impact on perceptions of whether due impartiality has been achieved. Our audiences should not be able to tell from BBC output the personal opinions of our journalists or news and current affairs presenters on matters of public policy, political or industrial controversy, or on ‘controversial subjects’ in any other area. They may provide professional judgements, rooted in evidence, but may not express personal views on such matters publicly, including in any BBC-branded output or on personal blogs and social media.” [emphasis added]

    I for one will have a copy of the entire report next to me every time I watch the BBC news etc. from this point on. If it’s not just simply ignored it should pretty well change everything we see from now on.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      d
      So it will be totally ignored, the BBC will continue to claim they got it “about right”.
      I assume that the fear (which I hope will become a reality) of Boris taking an axe to the BBC, has produced this.
      “We might have been biased in the past but you have our assurance that we will behave in future”, is not good enough.
      Kill it Boris, start to enjoy the gratitude of a grateful nation.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Rules don’t apply to Lineker
      … cos he doesn’t work in News & Current Affairs

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Section 4 3 11 it is then …. the favourite Biased BBC lottery numbers …. maybe they can get presenters like the maitless to read them out as a ‘book at nighty night time ‘? – but not please that graham £ norton £….

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  38. Not Gwent says:

    Just noticed on State Broadcaster news page a big splash that Corbyn backs a referendum on a “Tory Deal” and would back remain (ie oppose the Tories). He won’t say if he will offer a referendum on a Labour deal.

    What’s changed?

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    • Oldspeaker says:

      Been reading all about it,
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48919695
      Norman Smith says “This move is another shift by Labour to become an openly Remain-backing party in this Parliament, ahead of a general election.”
      I’d condense that to “this move is shifty”

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      • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

        Imagine the shrieking and hysteria if the Conservative party had done a complete U turn on a policy.

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  39. StewGreen says:

    From the BBC propaganda manual
    … To construct the dramatic narrative we want, the bbc should fish around for the most dramatic quote
    ..and use it to create a clickbait headline’

    See how the clickbait headline
    Farms ‘could be wiped out like the COAL industry’
    is actually Brexit: EU subsidy loss ‘could wipe out farms’
    on the webpage
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-48880939

       10 likes

    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      SG From the report
      “Scotland is the part of the UK that receives the largest amount of overall CAP funding, worth £630m last year”
      We are still subsidising the already subsidised.

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  40. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://order-order.com/2019/07/09/trump-tweets-stupid-ambassador-foolish-may/#disqus_thread
    Agent Cob Handler • 3 hours ago
    Can’t wait for the first Boris-Trump joint press conference. You could sell tickets.
    LordOfMisrule > Agent Cob Handler • 3 hours ago
    I would prefer to see the reaction of everyone watching in
    Guardian HQ and in the BBC Newsroom. I would be in danger of [email protected] by laughter.
    JonBoy > LordOfMisrule • 2 hours ago
    Are they not the same place?

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      3:53 You can no longer edit this comment.

         2 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        Note how when these random irritations happen
        ..if you are a minority you say ‘see thos happened cos I am black/gay/woman’ etc.
        … no often they just happen to all of us.

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  41. StewGreen says:

    Radio Schedule
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/schedules/p00fzl7j

    4pm Why aren’t there more BLACK BALLET DANCERS ..a repeat I guess

    2:15pm drama, was about aged gay drag queens

    11:30am Dr Humera Iqbal explores the unique lives and experiences faced by British teenagers and children whose parents do not speak English.

    That is not even half the tickbox minority topics today

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    • StewGreen says:

      6:30pm Joining Victoria Coren Mitchell to commit heresy about pets and Donald Trump’s Twitter account are Germaine Greer, Sathnam Sanghera and David Mitchell.

      Yes cos dissing Donald Trump’s Twitter account
      is so edgy & original.

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  42. Fedup2 says:

    Stew – you could have told us a bit earlier – now I’ve gone and missed these programmes …😎

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  43. StewGreen says:

    Hull news

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Who are we , with our Western white culture , prejudice and laws, to judge this man. In his own culture he may be thoroughly justified in his actions. Hull is a hugely attractive city, it is , or was , the European city of culture . How can anyone not want to go there? For all we know he may have asked her nicely and more than once , to go , even pleaded with her. You can see why her refusal would upset him. After all who wears the trousers in the house?
      I know it’s awful to make a joke about this case but I’m sure that some of our progressives do in fact think a little like this.( except the bit about the attractions of Hull of course, most of them probably confuse it with Mull , it not being in the Home Counties) By the way where are all the feminists ,the Guardian, the peerless BBC , oughten they to be demonstrating and demanding his head?

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      • Helen Richardson says:

        Hmmm, difficult one isn’t it? Mind you, I can think of places that I would stab my Other Half in order to avoid.

        Had to laugh at this:

        Chinese and Indian workers in the UK earn more than white British counterparts, first ethnic pay gap data reveals

        “Figures compiled by the Office for National Statistics (ONS) spanning from 2012 to 2018 found that Chinese and Indian workers consistently had the highest median hourly pay of any ethnic group…….
        The new data supports the think tank’s recent research, which found that BAME workers face significant pay gaps, which continue to hold even after accounting for workers’ characteristics, such as their skills, experience, age and the types of jobs they do…….
        The Foundation noted that Britain’s 1.9 million black, Indian, Pakistani and Bangladeshi employees are experiencing an annual pay penalty (pay gaps that control for workers’ characteristics) of £3.2bn…….”

        (Best to read the whole article.)

        So, the spin that is usually placed on this is that, when ethnic minorities do well, it is because they have “have excelled within the education system”. But when ethnic minorities do less well, and experience a “pay penalty”, it is due to some form of institutional unfairness within the system. If only Whites would just sink to the bottom and stay there, everyone would be happy.

        Racist Whites must be very clever indeed to be able to target their racism in such precise, selective ways.

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  44. Guest Who says:

    The Today Programme

    A survey for BBC Arabic found honour killings are still more acceptable than homosexuality in the Middle East. But author Shereen El Feki explains that sexual taboos across the region are being challenged.

    ***

    They seem happy with this. That there is yet another death cult tally system over there strikes me however as a smidge sick.

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  45. theisland says:

    31 pages!

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    • StewGreen says:

      Yes cos it was all so simple his Leeds trial could be done in 20 minutes

      … Thinking of the rape victims
      .. and also TR’s
      #SocialistJustist is the way libmob gloat at the prospect of them being punished by the jailing of their father

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      • StewGreen says:

        typio : … Thinking of the rape victims
        .. and also TR’s children

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The island – I’ve just read ( most ) of it .

      The judges were obviously not impressed by either TR or Mr Furlong – his brief .

      They have also left open a door to appeal in relation to Article 10 ECHR freedom of speech versus restrictions on reporting of trials .

      They noted – too – how the prosecution justified itself by shift from interfering with jurors to interfering with the Muslim paedophiles who might be frightened to go to the court through being approached — but not too much said about this ‘shift ‘.

      The judgement reports that TR was wrongfully imprisoned . Whether that will have any effect on the sentencing – I doubt very much . The judicial knives are out for this troublesome citizen .
      I bet they have his passport away as well- I don’t think there is an extradition agreement with the USA should he seek political asylum there .

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  46. StewGreen says:

    Bedford News
    A guy from Hull called Mo Timbo puts on an anti-knife event
    .. afterwards a punter was stabbed

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  47. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Meanwhile a far left politicianess demands US women’s football players are paid twice as much as the US men’s football team!
    AOC, she has the IQ of a retarded grapefruit.

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  48. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I think it was Clive Lewis on politics live today who said we should remain in the eu and reform it from within.
    Shows how out of touch he is.

    I also heard, some days ago, Boris I think, that the current ‘talent’ in Westminster is the best it’s ever been.

    How can politicians say these things out loud without either falling over laughing or going bright red in the face.

       18 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      I suspect that Boris was indulging in a bit of doublespeak. I am sure that he knows as well as we do that the talent in Westminster is at a very low ebb.

         11 likes

  49. Fedup2 says:

    One Mohit Bakaya has been appointed as the new Controller of Radio 4 .At least it would be difficult to take the formerly decent Radio Station any further down the drain as listeners easily find better stuff to put in their ears .

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  50. digg says:

    In read the UK’s data protection regulator has set about raising funds through massive fines on Companies including BA and Marriot Hotels for data protection breaches under the EU’s General Data Protection Regulations. (GDPR).

    Odd that out of the entire EU, the UK is off the blocks like a rabbit doing their bidding and well ahead of the pack handing out these fines.

    A British Company and an American Company being the first “victims”.

    The BBC put this on the Technology page, i think it should have been put on the Crime page myself.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-48928163

    The Marriot breach dates back to 2016 surely before the rules were in place and it was not even a Marriot Company at the time.

    I smell spite and revenge here.

    And if we do get out of the EU in a few months, will these fines be recoverable and what is to happen to the no doubt currently bloated UK Data Protection Department then?

    And did anybody lose any money through these breaches, surely this should play a part in the level of punishment?

    We are of course not told this vital piece of information.

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