Midweek Open Thread 3 July 2019

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  1. taffman says:

    “Jaguar Land Rover announces electric car investment”
    “The decision appears to contradict previous warnings by JLR that investment in the UK would be threatened by Brexit, and in particular a no-deal scenario”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48875406

    “Previous warnings” or Project Fear ?

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  2. pugnazious says:

    ‘Boris Johnson: PM tried to restrict ex-minister’s access to intelligence’
    ‘Downing Street attempted to withhold sensitive intelligence from Boris Johnson when he became foreign secretary, the BBC has learned.

    This caused concern in the intelligence services, since the foreign secretary authorises sensitive operations….behind the scenes a row had been taking place about whether Mr Johnson would have access to all the intelligence produced by the UK’s spies, according to a number of sources, who spoke anonymously because of the sensitivity of the subject.’

    BBC story complete twaddle in what it is trying to say…you can’t trust Boris Johnson with intelligence material….the BBC’s story is in essence a lie….they say this is unprecedented, i.e. Boris is the key factor….er…

    “Successive foreign secretaries – including the current one – have been hobbled. They’ve had the title, but they haven’t had the power……they’ve been obliged to take part in a tug-of-war with the Cabinet Office over anything that involved national security and the EU.””

    So ‘Successive foreign’ secretaries have been ‘hobbled’….so…em…not ‘unprecedented’ then?

    This is an old story repackaged by the BBC to undermine Boris…where’d it come from…present FO? Oh, that’ll be Hunt then…or from No10…Remain Central? Old story repackaged by lazy, biased journalist.

    From the Guardian in May 2018…

    Boris Johnson ‘hobbled by lack of Foreign Office power’

    ‘Boris Johnson has been “hobbled” as foreign secretary partly by a Whitehall refusal to make the Foreign Office a strategic department spanning diplomacy, trade and overseas development, according to the chair of the foreign affairs select committee.

    In his speech, Tugendhat will say: “Successive foreign secretaries – including the current one – have been hobbled. They’ve had the title, but they haven’t had the power.”

    The Foreign Office “has lost control of key aspects of overseas influence, like trade and development, and has been obliged to take part in a tug-of-war with the Cabinet Office over anything that involved national security and the EU. This has created silos in our foreign policy, reducing our ability to balance across areas of influence.

    Tom Tugendhat suggests that bringing trade, intelligence and overseas development issues under the control of the Foreign and Commonwealth Office (FCO) would provide better coordination to meet the challenges of the post-Brexit era.’

    The story is clearly leaked to try and damage Boris….who is foreign secretary now? Oh…it’s the other candidate for PM…..Jeremy Hunt….was it his team that spread this half-truth? Or was it May’s team in No10 who supported Rory Stewart and Remain?

    Odd the BBC doesn’t ask if any other Foreign Secretaries were so restricted and indeed if Hunt is…as he will be.

    This is the BBC sensationalising an already known story that isn’t linked to Boris in particular but the BBC and Remain Incorporated are weaponising it and targeting it at him.

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    • theisland says:

      @VeteransBritain

      Scandalous and unprecedented for Theresa May and the Cabinet Office to withhold intelligence from a Foreign Secretary, who is the ministerial head of the intelligence services.
      What were they trying to hide while EU exit negotiations were starting?

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  3. Annunaki says:

    abbot-2.jpg

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Annu, am not sure that that grid is the right shape …. . .

      . . . . … or size.

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  4. Annunaki says:

    abbot.jpg

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    • Dystopian says:

      Is that Lammy in drag?

      Funny, I’ve never seen the two of them together.

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  5. Up2snuff says:

    I have a feeling I may have asked this question on here before.

    I’m getting a lot of ‘static’ on R4 (partly due, IIRC, to the good weather) but when I roll the tuning dial to R1, R2 & R3 the signal is miles better, much less fuzz, crackle and pop.

    The question is: are the BBC deliberately weakening their R4 transmission (after all, it is only listened to by old people) but are deliberately prefering their music stations?

    One for the techies on here.

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  6. Thoughtful says:

    BBC field a question time panel with yet again only one Brexiteer on it. The bias is overt and yet the cowardly far left Tories don’t even speak about it.

    bbcqt-tom.jpg?resize=540%2C302&ssl=1

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  7. Up2snuff says:

    Fascinating Desert Island Discs with a completely brilliant and total polymath, Jared Diamond.

    He criss-crosses the globe by plane. Will Lauren Laverne ask about Global Warming at all?

    I wonder ….

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    • Up2snuff says:

      The answer, sadly, is no. The subject comes up. (Confession: I knew it would – I checked out the Doc’s Wiki in advance.)

      Either Lauren is:
      – Not quite sharp enough in the intellect department
      – Nobody in the production team is bright enough to think to put it in the script
      – It doesn’t suit the BBC narrative – CO2 emissions for the few, not the many
      – It doesn’t suit the other BBC narrative – don’t ask revealing questions, don’t educate, don’t inform, try to keep the listeners in ignorance
      – She is a Glasto plasto, I’m BBCee – fly me, taxi here,taxi there, hypocrite, too.

      You decide.

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  8. Annunaki says:

    Wass a “tuning dial” ? only ask because my 18 C grandfather clock has stopped and cannot see where to put the batteries, I have chisseled my way into it with the help of a hammer but still no battery compartment anywhere, so yes where are the techies ? maybe a usb on it somewhere or remote charging ? cant find the [email protected] motherboard either, still working my way in too much wood, bloody splinters everywher now, .. will keep you updated

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Annu, Snuffy has been described by a friend as ‘a clockwork, analogue sort of person forced to live in the electronic, digital age.’.

      I know how your clock feels … . .

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      • Annunaki says:

        Yes, I also struggle with clockwork passwords, and downloading pedulums, oh, hang on no I dont, and, apart from the odd Dr Who episode have no fear that my clock will take over the world, and do not expect it to remind me that it has stopped working so it can download some worthless [email protected] from microsoft clockmakers to improve its bloody tick or whatever for 40 minutes every bleeding week

        Although they do try to get it to sign up for mouse running up you protection just need your credit card details

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        • Banania says:

          My clock is my best friend. Every year he wears his Armistice poppy and he votes Brexit.

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  9. pugnazious says:

    BBC all at sea over JLR’s decision to invest here #despiteBrexit.

    BBC says people will say JLR was scaremongering over previous anti-Brexit statements..but…you know…as all their management and talent is here they just have no choice but to make the investment in the UK….lol. JLR would ship the factories off to China or india in a blink of an eye if it suited them regardless of the brilliant British talent….so there must be a reason they are investing in Britain #despiteBrexit.

    From last month…

    ‘EU shocked as investment in Britain booms – and beats France and Germany combined’

    ‘As global confidence grows in Britain, we retained our position as the top destination in Europe for foreign direct investment. The country managed to attract £1.48 trillion of inwards investment stocks in 2018, which is more than Europe’s next biggest economies – Germany and France. This leaves Britain the third-largest investment hub in the world, behind the United States and China.’

    Why doesn’t the BBC trumpet that from the rooftops, promoting and cheering on Britain instead of telling the world what a terrible place ‘Brexit Britain’ will be?

    From the Economist in 2018….

    An embarrassment of riches

    Why foreign investment into Britain remains so strong

    BRITAIN is not exactly bending over backwards to attract foreign investors. The country is marching towards a hard Brexit, which involves quitting the European Union’s single market and customs union. Theresa May’s Conservative Party has promised to take a tougher line on foreign money, which it links to “aggressive asset-stripping [and] tax avoidance”. Jeremy Corbyn, Labour’s far-left leader, wants to nationalise the utilities and railways, many of whose owners live abroad.

    Yet foreigners have been splurging. Foreign investment in British firms hit an all-time high in 2016. Statistics from Dealogic, a data firm, suggest that so far in 2018 a tenth of announced global mergers and acquisitions have involved a British firm as a target, the highest share since 2008. Klépierre, a French property company, is after Hammerson, a British one, which until recently was listed on the FTSE 100. Comcast and 21st Century Fox, two American media firms, are battling over Sky, whose headquarters are in Britain. Despite the unwelcoming rhetoric, under Mrs May foreign investors have bought British firms at a faster rate than under any other recent prime minister.’

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    • Old Goat says:

      Can’t think why they’re so keen to develop and produce electric vehicles…

      https://www.thegwpf.com/brits-lose-interest-in-green-cars-as-government-cuts-subsidies/

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      • Annunaki says:

        Its the cable and how long it is that worries me, biggest one I have in the shed is 10 metres and thats in a tangled mess, couldnt even get to the local shop with that and the bloody things always get tangled up. imagine that on the M25 ? and what happens if the fuse goes or a powercut or the plug falls out ??? in the fast lane ? ?? hmm think about it forget to pay your electric bill and they cut you off while you are overtaking a drunk polish lorry driver watching hardcore bisexual Russian porn and texting local prostitutes whilst cooking bacon on a primus stove ?? what then ? no bloody chance…

        they just do not think these things through

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  10. Doobster78 says:

    Cant wait to get shut of this wet wipe !!!

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    • Beltane says:

      Couldn’t agree more Doobs. I like to hope he’s dusting off his top hat and practicing the slow walk, leading the hearse – just the way he used too before some idiot thought he’d make an excellent chancellor.

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    • The WestWyvern says:

      Oh look, they’ve dug up ‘spreadsheet’ Phil, the project fear doom-monger in-chief.
      In that photo he truly looks like a cadaver, grey, pallid and lifeless. More of a ‘grey man’ than Major could have ever been. I sometimes wonder if David Icke has a point when he says the ruling classes are shape-shifting alien lizards. Phil certainly seems to be consumed by something.

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  11. Peter Grimes says:

    Not Al Beeb, but many of us can agree that Sky is becoming at least as bad.

    Fatty Boulton just announced, 8.50, that after the break they will be discussing ‘what happens to council funding after we leave the EU(SSR)’.

    WTFlyingF!!!

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    • Helen Richardson says:

      “Not Al Beeb, but many of us can agree that Sky is becoming at least as bad.”

      On Brexit, I think SKY is far worse and that fat, mumbling fool is responsible for a substantial part of it. Although I’ll never forget Faisal Islam’s sneering expression around the time of the referendum.

      I think the BBC’s bias is far broader, or “diverse” if you prefer.

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  12. StewGreen says:

    Jess Philips, throwing insults instead of debating
    #BeNastyLikeALefty

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  13. Doobster78 says:

    Oh dear ……

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    • andyjsnape says:

      Saint Obama, no way!

      i’ll run along and mention this to the beeb they will (not) do a news report on it

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  14. Dystopian says:

    They were talking about the lack of police officers on Talk Radio this morning.

    Meanwhile:

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  15. Dystopian says:

    Good luck today Tommy…

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    • Doobster78 says:

      No doubt the highly impartial BBC will look at that tweet but still tell the nation that only a “handful” of supporters turned out.

      That picture with Corbyn etc on would command a estimate of around 100,000 no doubt and the streets would have been “lined” with people.

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  16. Dystopian says:

    Only biased BBC and MSM fake news reporters allowed:

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  17. theisland says:

    Grab pension and run?

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  18. Guest Who says:

    Again it is the process by which this comes to be bbc news that intrigues.

    ***
    BBC News
    “I’ll just stop when my little boy wants to stop.”

    Riona O Connor says it’s “no big deal” that she’s feeding her four-year-old and wants to help normalise breastfeeding and natural-term weaning.

    (via BBC Family & Education News) bbc.in/2JcxQj9

    ***

    Did she contact the BBC with her fascinating tale and it was just up their street?

    Did the BBC decide this was one that never fails and advertised?

    Or was a random BBC crew just out and about in their ‘hood and, by golly, there was just what the doctor ordered?

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  19. Guest Who says:

    Kate risking treasure slots on Aunty here.

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  20. Beltane says:

    An article in the Guardian – recently on-line but now removed – reveals the outrage throughout the EU at the scandalous EC ‘elections’ which, as we now know, have proved to be an entirely predictable stitch-up between Germany and France, with token positions ‘awarded’ to Belgium and Spain.
    There’s little doubt the total omission of Eastern European representation will come back to bite them, but meanwhile the accuracy and credibility of Anne Widdicombe’s speech is confirmed – and that, just for you David Lammy, absurd racial ignoramus that you are, is in spades.

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  21. Annunaki says:

    she’s literally Eva Braun! pic.twitter.com/THScVqnsaw

    — Mick Brailsford

    Maybe this individual could taste some hydrogen cyanide and have his corneas taken out of his eyes to experiment why aryans have blue eyes to understand what Nazism is rather than using that word against anyone he disagrees with I m tempted to sign up to twitter just to invite him to the experiment he truly deserves why is Nazi not synonymous with nigger ? which is worse ?

    why is he allowed to abuse pople in this fashion on Twitter ? I do not recall Tommy Robinson abusing anyone in that fashion yet he is banned ?

    I suspect there is no answer to these questions in this truly insane world where organised child rape gangs are protected from prosecution for years on end and white actors are weekly vilified for touching people inappropriately

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    • Dystopian says:

      “why is he allowed to abuse pople in this fashion on Twitter ? I do not recall Tommy Robinson abusing anyone in that fashion yet he is banned ?”

      Ah but according to the government lawyer in the Old Bailey today, Tommy was mean to the rapists!

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    • thehoiman says:

      I’m pretty sure he was being sarcastic.
      @SupportOurLefty is a well known parody account.

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  22. Beltane says:

    Breaking news: Swedish woman arrested at Heathrow on suspected terrorism charges.
    Makes a change from Norwegian, I suppose.

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  23. Annunaki says:

    I is Swedish Passpor innit that mean i is swedish hate your govt hate your religion hate the lot of you but i have passport innit

    reminds me of Luton

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7189225/Entire-British-family-12-fled-home-Luton-Syria-join-ISIS-DEAD.html

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  24. Annunaki says:

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    • The Sage says:

      Caption: Joyous residents of Sundsvall gather before heading off to celebrate St Lucia’s Day on 13 December.
      It’s really lovely to see Swedes maintaining their traditions.
      The only things missing from the picture seem to be candles and, maybe, some blonde locks.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Annu, is that an Eruv I see before me?

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    • Banania says:

      Oh, look at those faces! Have they come here for the NHS to treat their terrible diseases?

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  25. Annunaki says:

    I is Bri ish innit i got passport I hate your country but
    I got passprort innit

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    • Annunaki says:

      RE
      Breaking news: Swedish woman arrested at Heathrow on suspected terrorism charges.
      Makes a change from Norwegian, I suppose.

      Bet you my pension they have never seen a longboat with a dragonhead in their lives, but happy with the raping and pillaging as long as they do not have to fight for it because that is why they are all here, running away from those that stand up to them, and attacking women and young girls and unarmed civilians when they have a knife or gun in their hand, absolute cowards and bullies, if they were not and had a shred of dignitiy they would stay and fight for their country instead of running away, presenting themselves as victims and then attacking us like rabid dogs when they outnumber or are armed against civilians , women snd young girls

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  26. Annunaki says:

    Cant speak english cos we bribed universi hie of bedord they keep it quiet only cost 500 pound BBC dont want to know, iss national scandal but racist so they forget, anyway where the nearest school ?

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  27. G says:

    Wales: voted predominately ‘Leave’ in 2016 and similarly, for The Brexit Party in the local elections just recently. So why no representative in Wales? Curious.
    https://mailchi.mp/f71b000f9eff/your-chance-to-vote-on-our-policy-options-79197?e=b626e1d7cc

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  28. theisland says:

    The nub – voices must be silenced.
    Only Big Brother (bBC etc.) can report the (acceptable) news.

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  29. Doobster78 says:

    Just please F off Jon …….. again , any opportunity …. grow up man.

    Jon retweeted this also ……. petty doesn’t even cover it. Embarrassing.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Philip Rucker,
      Does this photo suit your narrative also?
      The crowd is behind the tank btw.
      #busted

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    • richard D says:

      I would perhaps suggest that we shall not hear the same level of criticism/whining/disdain as I heard this morning from the BBC when M. Macron or one of his minions takes the salute at the Bastille Day (Quatorze Juillet) celebrations in Paris in nine days time.

      But then, these have been happening year after year under successive French governments, and are usually descrbed in nothing but fawning, awed and respectful tones by ‘respected (i.e. Europhile) BBC reporters’.

      Hypocrisy, anyone ?

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  30. digg says:

    TR trial in day 2, so far nothing from the left BBC, Guardian, Independent.

    If he goes free I expect nothing as well.

    If he goes to prison it will be all over the front pages.

    Their journalists are so obviously in cahoots or under threats.

    There could not be a more obvious sign of bias and it is simply an odious indictment of the state of the left media and freedom in this Country.

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  31. pugnazious says:

    Important perhaps?….

    ‘Russ Mould, investment director at AJ Bell, explains:

    The big news of the day is the sharp decline in German factory orders, down 2.2% in May versus estimates for a 0.2% decline. This will worry the European Central Bank and raise expectations of more monetary stimulus in the near future.’

    And yet nothing on the BBC…clearly not ‘big news’ there. Extraordinary…..The EU’s biggest, most powerful economy that drives the EU possibly in recession and the BBC shows scant interest…and when it does finally get around to reporting it you can be sure it will be downplayed and the focus will rapidly shift to Broken Brexit Britain and its collapse.

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    • Doobster78 says:

      I kid you not, this is the Guardian take …..

      “Disappointing German economic data and weak UK productivity are weighing on Europe’s economy”

      RELENTLESS.

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  32. Doobster78 says:

    How did the y mislead us John ???? Yet another remoaner who conveniently forgets all about George’s emergency / punishment budget, the Remain campaigns lies about house prices, food prices, national security, job losses , instant recession …. and we must remember, not when we leave, they told us this would happen just if we Voted leave. Very selective these lot, very selective indeed on what they like to remember !!!!!

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  33. theisland says:

    Parliament yesterday
    https://hansard.parliament.uk/Commons/2019-07-04/debates/A68A0968-52A9-46CB-B88E-9FDD3BEF0DA2/TVLicencesForOver-75S

    Mr Philip Hollobone (Kettering) (Con)
    Why not get rid of TV licences altogether for everyone and force the BBC to compete for its revenues like every other broadcaster? The supermarket equivalent would be forcing everyone, under threat of criminal sanction, to spend £150 in Tesco even if they shop at Aldi, Sainsbury’s, Co-op or elsewhere.

    Jeremy Wright

    I cannot agree with my hon. Friend. In previous years we looked carefully at whether this is the right way to fund the BBC, and the conclusion reached was that it is. The Government have no plans to change that fundamental funding model.

    So there!

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    • taffman says:

      theisland
      Change the present the Government for The Brexit Party.
      Simples.

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  34. Terminal Moraine says:

    Not BBC but textbook Marxist dribble from the Guardian, who’ve gone through their rolodex of cultural institutions ripe for a takedown.

    There’s a problem with classical music now, because a) some tickets to the Proms cost a lot, and b) a couple of burger joints found playing it disperses anti-social groups that gather outside.

    Well a minute online shows you can still grab a ticket to the Proms for £3 and the latter just sounds like good crowd control to me. But really the editorial is a setup for an attempt at intellectual heft by quoting critical theory founder Adorno’s comment about art keeping itself alive “through its social force of resistance”. You see classical music is backward looking and “Beethoven, and other dead white men” don’t have the power to shock any more.

    Yes we get it, a true musical genius swaps orchestras for radical ideology and concertos for swearing. All hail the revolution. You’ll get stabbed and it’ll sound terrible, but that’s progress for you.

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  35. StewGreen says:

    Who influences Amazon’s tax rules ?
    is it you EU & Juncker ?

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    • Doobster78 says:

      Amazing isn’t it … we have gone to war to depose leaders who were lesser dictators than Juncker !!!!

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  36. pugnazious says:

    Well not really…

    ‘Members of a gang behind the biggest modern-day slavery network ever exposed in the UK have been jailed.

    Police believe more than 400 victims were put to work in the West Midlands by the organised crime gang.

    They tricked vulnerable people from Poland into England with the promise of work and a better lifestyle.

    Isn’t it in fact the BBC that is ‘the biggest modern-day slavery network’ in the UK today? The BBC that encourages people from around the world to make extremely dangerous journeys with promises of a better life that just doesn’t exist…and as they flood in here the irony is that they destroy the lifestyle of those already here and ensure that in future the lifestyle they seek is just an impossible dream as this island gets ever more crowded and conflicts arise between the competing communities [already happening of course]….a dream sold to them by the BBC.

    The BBC is people trafficking and is involved in the ethnic cleansing of this country of its ‘native’ inhabitants….not sensationalist or scaremongering…just plain truth…..the mass immigration is a deliberate policy by the Left, the EU and the th elikes of the BBC to undermine national loyalty and identity….for their own reasons but it all adds up to the same thing….ethnic cleansing….Labour wanted to ‘Brown Britain’ and there can be little doubt that the BBC sees hideously white people as a problem to be eliminated and bred out of the system….both here and in America where it ooks on with pleasure as it sees white majority America turning ‘brown’. It’s as much racism on the BBC’s part as anything the BNP or even Hitler came up with….demonising one race and trying to replace them.

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  37. digg says:

    TR prosecutor profile out there on the web….

    https://www.5rb.com/member/andrew-caldecott-qc/

    Interesting profile and worth a read.

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    • Dystopian says:

      “He also appeared for the BBC in the Hutton Inquiry and the Guardian in the Leveson Inquiry.”

      As impartial as said BBC then.

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      • theisland says:

        I don’t think Jessica S was very impressed

        Nor Andrew

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    • Dystopian says:

      Interesting. Could someone tweet this info to @ezralevant as I’m not on twitter.

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    • cromwell says:

      I’m gutted, been watching utube of crowds outside court today just stopped for a brew and this judgement. Absolute stitch up by the corrupt government and judiciary. I was watching Ezras Twitter feed and was convinced the evidence was going Tommys way. I did notice the verdict was announced after the crowd outside had dispersed and the bus with the platform was stopped. Oh how I hate the government, judiciary, the police and the MSM.y

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      • Dystopian says:

        I’ve followed this over the two days and, based on what commentators were saying from the court, I really didn’t think they had a case against Tommy.
        I really believe he did nothing wrong.
        The case in Leeds was all but wrapped up and the defendants were there for the verdict.
        I can’t see how anything Tommy said or did on that day (and I watched the live stream as it happened) could have compromised the trial.
        It’s interesting that Caldecott (the GA’s lawyer) has done previous work for the BBC and The Guardian. I wouldn’t be at all surprised if they were funding this in some way.
        It’s a disgrace. This country is no better than a tin pot dictatorship like North Korea.
        Today I am ashamed to be British.

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  38. Dover Sentry says:

    Not reported by the BBC:

    “”Brexit? HP Inc laughs in the face of Brexit! Hard or soft, PC maker claims it’s ‘no significant risk’ “”

    “”The world’s second-largest PC maker – and the largest in Britain – made the bold statement in its latest set of profit and loss accounts for the year ended 31 October, filed with Companies House this week.””

    “Following the referendum in 2016, we have been assessing the potential impact of Brexit on HP Inc UK,” the firm said. “While there is still uncertainty as to the timing and nature of the UK’s exit from the EU, we do not believe Brexit will pose a significant risk to our business.”

    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2019/07/05/brexit_no_significant_risk_to_us_claims_hp_inc/

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  39. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Good to see Tom Harwood point out, on Remainer Time last night, that he was the only leave voter again with the other 4 on the panel all voting to remain.
    Fiona Bruce must be getting sick of trying to defend the 4 to 1 make up of remainers to leaver on Remainer Time every week.

    The remainers keep on saying things like “if we had voted for Mays’ deal we’d be out by now” (even though it was an awful deal) or “I respect the referendum but…”. The truth is, they couldn’t find an answer so they asked the people. We told them clearly what we wanted them to do and then they’ve spent the last 3 years finding ways not to do it.

    Good on Tom Harwood who got the biggest cheers of the night for telling it as it is. Mind, someone’s in for it at the bbbc, letting leavers into the audience.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Emmanuel Goldstein,

      Yes, I was really impressed by Tom Harwood – cutting through the Question Time bias and ignorance like a scythe.

      And Fiona Bruce always jumps in fast when anyone dares to point out the pro-Remain bias. I wonder if she really sees the BBC as fair. Can she be that deluded?

      I agree there was strong Leave approval from the audience.

      That’s the last QT till September. It’s worth a look for those who haven’t seen it.

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    • Banania says:

      After some particularly loud applause for the lone Brexiter, Bruce said, “But a lot of people were sitting on their hands”.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Earwig: ‘Say something! Earn that eyewatering salary you daft bat….. SAY SOMETHING!!’

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  40. taffman says:

    \\UK slavery network ‘had 400 victims’//
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-48881327
    The benefits of being in the EU ?
    I thought slavery had been abolished in the UK over 200 years ago ?

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  41. Dystopian says:

    Tommy Robinson’s defence lawyer shows video in court…..

    The whole of the media should be on Tommy’s side in this. It is a direct attack on press freedom.
    But they’re not…because it’s Tommy.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Dystopian,

      From what I’ve read here, it seems that Tommy has a decent defence lawyer. I really hope so.

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      • Dystopian says:

        It clearly wouldn’t have mattered who his defence was. It was already in the bag for the prosecution.

        This whole thing is a charade just like Brexit.
        We are never getting out of the EU. It’s all a farce.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I appreciate that his tweets will not be unbiased. But from what he’s said today, I cannot see how the verdict can be anything but acquittal, unless they are going to arrest the BBC journalist sitting in the court room.

      I’m sure they’ll manage some sort of stitch-up.

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  42. theisland says:

    More from Gerard

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  43. theisland says:

    GUILTY

    As TR predicted.

    I expect Cox has already written the ‘formal decision’ for them!

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    • TrueToo says:

      theisland,

      Grim news. I guess Tommy can only hope for a light sentence now.

      Seems to me that the UK is well on its way to becoming a police state. The only way to start to reverse it is to get this pathetic Tory government out and a coalition in with The Brexit Party in the majority.

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      • kingkp says:

        If you had any doubts about the UK being an Anarcho-Tyranny they were vanquished entirely today with this disgraceful decision. I cannot believe what this country has become. I am sat here in Budapest having bought an appartment here a few months back. It was clear to me then where the UK is headed. It is even clearer to me now. This crypto-islamic uniparty will do its upmost to increase the flow of muslim migrants in to this country and completely destroy the white working class.

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        • Dystopian says:

          What are the property prices like in Hungary? I think I might just join you.

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          • kingkp says:

            A lot cheaper than London of course. And Budapest is an incredible city, even now in July there is so much space out on the boulevards. I will be back in the shthole otherwise known as London next week due to my job and I am not looking forward to it…..

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            • Lucy Pevensey says:

              I had a bag stolen from me in the Budapest railway station. Two men distracted me by shouting at me while another slipped away with my bag. Fortunately I had my passport in my pocket. The things in the bag were of no value to anyone else but it ruined the rest of my holiday not having my personal things with me. It was expensive but I cut the trip short and came back to England early. A shame because I had been enjoying it prior to that.

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              • kingkp says:

                Every city has its issues. But I can guarantee you, you won’t get stabbed, shot or acid attacked here…….

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        • Navets says:

          kingkp

          The BBC article about the case included an explanation about what Contempt of Court is, the gist of which is that it has the primary objective of preventing juries being influenced by things they see or hear. The article goes on to report that Tommy Robinson was filming outside the Court whilst the jury was in deliberation. The matter of how his filming of the outside of a court at the time of the jury deliberating could influence the jury doesn’t appear to have been addressed by the BBBC or am I missing something?

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          • kingkp says:

            Yes. You actually trust what the BBC report. The jury’s deliberations had finished. The muslim pedophiles were attending to be sentenced. Some of them appealed their convictions on the basis TR had prejudiced the trial. Their objections were overruled and the Judge said categorically TR’s actions could in no way have altered the outcome of the case. No one in UK legal history has ever been sent to prison for contempt of court, even when their actions have led to cases being dropped because of those actions. You live in an Anarcho-Tyranny. That should be obvious to anyone with eyes.

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      • Dystopian says:

        They had to find him guilty to stop him from being able to sue.
        They only need to imprison him long enough for the Muslim prisoners to get hold of him.
        It’s a disgrace.
        The AG prosecutor going on about the feelings of the rapists.
        Nobody gives a hoot about the feelings of the victims.

        Did anyone care about Cliff Richard’s (real name Harry Yaxley Webb) feelings when he wasn’t guilty of anything.

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        • theisland says:

          And right on cue …

          How long will this site last?

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          • kingkp says:

            Information that was already in the public domain so by their own definition TR’s facebook feed did not breach reporting restrictions. They simply wish to prevent people exposing the muslim rape gangs and the cover up. As well as disposing of TR of course. What a clown land we live in. Time to think about not paying those taxes.

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    • Banania says:

      Cox once opened our church fete and made a mess of that. The first time he was asked he turned up too late so he was politely asked the following year. This time he told an unsuitable blue joke at which nobody laughed.

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  44. digg says:

    I seem to have been right.

    BBC off the blocks like a greyhound now it’s a guilty verdict.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48887440

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  45. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://twitter.com/hashtag/BBCQT?src=hash

    “Bath Labour Party‏ @BathLabourParty · 5h5 hours ago
    “What are Boris Johnson and Jeremy Hunt’s responses to the challenges facing our country at the moment,
    talking about fox hunting”

    [Would that be the “couldn’t run a bath” Labour Party?
    The one who, under Tony the Lavatory cottager, spent 10X as much parliamentary time banning fox hunting than
    debating the Iraq War (the sexed up dodgy dossier, 45min WMD fairy stories, etc war)?
    Yes it was. One million dead.
    The same Labour party who imported 3.6 million Muslims to (postal) vote Labour and gang rape every white child in the UK.
    You ***** get to lecture nobody.]

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  46. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Very Concerned for Tommy, Kangaroo Court, guilty decision made before the Court opened proceedings.
    Another anti British, not fit for purpose, conspiracy of traitors.
    With every week that goes by, the head count of those who need their necks stretched, under our new laws, increases.
    We need a Tommy Robinson Street/Road/Avenue in every town in the UK.
    Dump all the Mandela nonsense.

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    • kingkp says:

      The government is ensuring that there will be a revolution in the UK. Let’s not forget the judge presiding over the trial gave all of the defendants bail and one of them absconded and still hasn’t been tracked down. He faced no consquences whatsover. The prosecutor for the AG disgracefully used the term ‘molestation’ when describing TR’s exchange with the muslim pedophiles. It is absolutely extraordinary that people in this country accept this. Absolutely beyond words.

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      • cromwell says:

        Did anyone on here watch the proceedings outside by Tommy’s people, first there was a young girl who had been abused by these vermin in Telford, what a brave girl to speak out, she said it’s still happening and the police are not interested. Then after her came a retired woman police office who had won awards I think she had been with the Leicester force, not quite sure, well she said in 2008 there had been a circular to all police forces from Jackie Smith Labour home sec. and Gordon Brown not to investigate these crimes, the girls had given consent and leave it up to the “care” workers, as she said what care workers, they were as bad. I found this shocking to watch, I had to run the video back to hear her again. Perhaps its still on utube it was filmed by ruptly. This lady was absolutely disgusted and shouted shame on you to the police etc. I found both testimonies quite upsetting , how can the politions sleep when they know this is still happening to our children. I could weep for them and for our once great country.

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        • kingkp says:

          She runs the secret sources channel on youtube. The bit about Brown and Smith instructing the Police and social services to break the law she reported on in one of her videos.

          Share it with everyone you know. And as she says….think about it and what your country has become.

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  47. Dystopian says:

    Time to buy a yellow vest yet

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  48. Dover Sentry says:

    The establishment will suffer consequences. I can see it happening.

    It could all have been avoided with a sensible judiciary and a real Conservative government.

    More votes for The Brexit Party?

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    • Dystopian says:

      “The establishment will suffer consequences. I can see it happening.”

      I can’t. Just the usual. Keep calm and carry on getting screwed over.

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  49. Doobster78 says:

    Self imposed media blackout for 48 hrs reqd. Blood is boiling and I cannot bear to see those smug lefty BBC cretins gleefully reporting on this. Or any msm for that matter.

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  50. Fedup2 says:

    Rather lost for words on the outcome of the latest Political Trial in Britain – many more to come .

    Anyway LittleOwen Jones does a piece on how the Red Tory Party has fallen out of love with the police – and how the left might become partnered with plod .

    I thought this had already happened – particularly in big cities . Master jones believes that stop and search doesn’t save lives and the constantly increaing murder rate is to do with ‘Tory cuts ‘.
    I’d say – what cuts ?

    Unemployment can’t be used as the normal excuse so the likes of master jones has to come up with another one – and certainly not put it down to importing the third world – whether it comes from and whatever the colour – I’m including white Eastern European peasants here too .

    Hopefully there won’t be any serious increase in police numbers as it just mean further suppression of anyone and anything the snowflakes don’t like .
    The wrong word , gesture or image gets you a full on criminal record these days as ‘free speech ‘ become just a passing bit of history – with eager young snowflake coppers and their ‘helpers’ just eager to ‘re educate ‘.

    No – the police lost a lot of public support a long time ago ….

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