Midweek Open Thread 3 July 2019

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  1. Dystopian says:

    British Airways flight to India declares emergency. Been circling the channel and heading back to Heathrow. Unconfirmed report seen on other source https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/british-airways-executive-club/1976616-ba119-lhr-blr-3-7-declared-emergency-heading-back-lhr.html of “fumes on board”.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7209839/Flight-London-India-declares-emergency-turns-Heathrow.html

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  2. digg says:

    BBC Radio 4 Media Show, Guardian chappie guest explaining why they are refusing to release the Boris neighbour tapes and why in that case they still decided to run the story.

    Key question I have is why decide it’s OK to run the story when you think its NOT OK to release the tapes that back it up?

    Being very defensive and evasive in my opinion. Like most reasonably intelligent people I think considering their obvious hatred of Boris – we can make our own conclusions.

    Now a BBC executive trying to make the huge decline in younger BBC audience a positive thing…

    Now onto Gary Lineker salary row etc… I have had to check that I am actually listening to the real R4 or whether my radio has been hacked by Putin!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Digg
      I caught the end — it would be something with the BBC cut the millionaire crisp salesman lose because he is more bad publicity than he is worth . Amol , (£250 k?) said it was an annual beating up of the BBC .

      This is a lie because the sites like this one are constantly aware of it – all year round .

      You can feel a kind of desperation in the BBC . Popular shows like bodyguard ( yawn ) fleabag ( gone ) killing eve ( lost the plot ) are pushed up the agenda every minute . Wimmin s footy is the current big thing and viewers are bound to be on the receiving end of far more of it – the only hope that SKy or BT buy it to fill the holes between proper games ….

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      • Beltane says:

        On the other hand Feds, there’s 14 hours, every day for the next week and more, of superb riveting entertainment all available at minimal cost with no lighting or studio staff, no planning meetings, no writers, pre-established camera sites and no Andrew Marr, Emily Maitless or Norman Smith. So it’s an absolute bargain, and it’s on both major BBC channels!
        Mind you, if you don’t like tennis…..

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Beltane – can I be spared the English hating A. Murray and his new lady partner …. and the rest of it please ? Why isn’t it on pay per view yet ? That can pay for a few licences can’t it ?

          When is the ‘why don’t wimmin get the same money “ whinge going to start -? It’s a great Sw19 tradition …

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          • Beltane says:

            Having lost cricket, most rugby, football and Formula 1 there’s only hot air ballooning and Murray left to fantasise about, so they have to make the most of it I suppose.
            As for the gorilla she’ll probably give him a slap if he starts crying – but then again, she’d have Judy to contend with.

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            • EmptyingDadsShed says:

              Just seen an advert for netball to be shown on bbc

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            • NicG says:

              Maybe there will be a resurgence in amateur rally cross that i remember from the 1970’s … or was that on the independent channel with Dickie D? Whatever, mini’s getting rolled on a dirt track was rather fun.

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          • The Sage says:

            But they do and for only playing (sometimes) three sets instead of up to five. Where’s the equality?

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Beltane, doesn’t have Dan Maskell these days though, does it?

          “Oh, I say!”

          Dan Maskell, Henry Longhurst, Peter Alliss, Raymond Baxter & son Peter, ‘EW’ Swanton, John Arlott, Brian Johnston, Henry Blofeld, Bill Frindall, Jack Fingleton, Alan McGilvray, Tony Cozier, Ted Lowe, Bill McLaren, Ian Robertson, Eddie Waring ….

          ….. funny thing, they all seem to have been men.

          “Oh, I say!”

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          • Beltane says:

            Dear old Peter Alliss is a frightful snob, but I can excuse him anything after his sterling work in getting Linaker pushed off the BBC golf circus.
            Our little Gary must have thought he’d finally made it socially when he briefly joined the team – but Mr Alliss knows a Johnny-cum-Lately when he meets one.
            End of short-lived golf commentating career.
            Now, who might do the same for football?

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            • LastChanceSaloon says:

              B
              A couple of decades ago the, EU loving, world’s most biased broadcaster tried to Euroise their ouput.
              Peter Alliss was instructed to use metres instead of imperial (yards or feet) measurements to describe, eg the length of putts.
              Alliss did not object, but he did not comply either.
              Alliss counted the steps of the golfers, then described the situation as “Golfer X has a putt of Y paces”.
              One summer of this and the BBC gave up, with all their commentators, not just Alliss.

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Beltane, gotta agree and a bit of a failure as a player when Jacklin, Townsend, Clark, Barnes and others came along not half a generation later.

              I couldn’t stand him at first, especially when compared to the incomparable Henry Longhurst but I have to concede that Alliss – and some of his current co-presenters also – matured and improved in time. Think that is a mark of a commentator in the range of somewhere from very good to great; they work at it and mature and improve.

              Now, that one who helps flog the crisps … . . . . . .

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          • Scroblene says:

            CMJ – RIP.

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Hear, hear, Scrobie.

              I have to apologise for omitting Kenneth Wolstenholme from my original list and probably Mottie as well.

              I did agonise over whether to include Murray Walker but using the ‘Alliss Measure’ (see above post) I have to think I probably got it about right.

              A summarisers list, as compensation for Walker’s absence however, would have to include James Hunt, as well as Vic Marks and Tuffers for cricket.

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Just spotted the Emily Coxhead youth newspaper in my local library
    BBC background
    Looks like the usual libmob agenda pushing


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  4. Cassandra says:

    Looks like the BBC doctored the Sheffield MEP Magid Magid’s tee-shirt photograph. Oh well, the BBC started it…

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  5. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    “The ‘baddies’ in Bond movies used to be old fashioned communist SMERSH types, megalomaniac nutters living in volcanoes, drug dealers, nuclear weapon thieves, ex-agents gone rogue and evil heads of multinational businesses”

    Bit like the EU then?

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Times Campaign column
    \\ Sir Mark Rowley called on Google to amend its technology to help stop the spread of terrorist material.
    He says it is a disgrace Anjem Choudary ranks top for search term “British Muslim spokesman”
    quote : If you search for “British Muslim spokesman” on Google, the top results are an infamous British extremist and a convicted terrorist. This is offensive to Muslims and great propaganda for the far right

    em in the real world no one ever foes that search !
    so it’s irrelevant.
    #2 seeking to control search terms is Orwellian

    #3 If you test today with quotation marks the top 20 hits are actually to this year’s newspaper stories about this search

    without quotes it does result in Anjem Choudhury Wikipedia page on your screen.

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  7. digg says:

    Meanwhile the IOC (International Olympic Committee) are to add 4 new “sports” to the next fest in Tokyo.

    Hold your breath….

    They are: Breakdancing, Skateboarding, Surfing, and Sport Climbing.

    I was very disappointed and rather hoping for egg and spoon racing, sack racing, tidying bedrooms and being under 12 to be serious contenders.

    Maybe next time they might consider moped pavement riding, milkshake throwing or having sex on reality TV at least!

    Seems like if you form a committee, especially an International one you will get a large percentage of fruitcakes jump right in.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Digg
      Is it wimmin s ‘ sport climbing ? The bbc can be on the case …

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      • digg says:

        Well Fedup from the website

        “The four sports that Paris has proposed are all totally in line with Olympic Agenda 2020 because they contribute to making the programme more gender balanced and more urban, and offer the opportunity to connect with the younger generation,” said IOC President Thomas Bach. “The proposed sports are in line with these principles and enhance Paris 2024’s overall dynamic Games concept, which focuses on inclusivity, inspiring a new audience and hosting socially responsible Games.”

        Why didn’t I just know it’s more levelling the playing field and giving everyone a gong! Also if most of the participants populating our local skateboard park is anything to go by the phrase “Socially Responsible” is not the first one that would come to my mind unless extra points can be scored for foul language and substance possession.

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        • Kaiser says:

          Skateboarding urban suppose so
          Sport Climbing urban not really
          Surfing urban? paris? what

          But Breakdancing??? WTF next Oylimpic ball room , every sport that cant get in must be going mental

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Isn’t break dancing ‘old hat’?

            Parcours and Popping* would be more relevant to today’s youth.

            (* I only know about this because the BBC informed me about it in the week after Glastonbury. Which they are still going on about! If you ask me, ‘Popping’ is a bit feeble; sort of Pans People meet Marcel Marceau to the sound of some fairly boring music.)

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    • vlad says:

      Knifing? Could be both individual and team event.

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    • Sluff says:

      Mary Poppins would be a slam dunk for the Tidying Bedrooms gold medal.

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  8. Fedup2 says:

    Looks like the BBC is geeing up a war between China and Blighty over Hong Kong …..
    …..bit weird as the BBC seems to be going on a colonial stance against a country a long way away

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    • vlad says:

      Hong Kong demonstrators flew the Union Jack. A lot of ex-colonies probably wish they were still under benign British rule.

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      • G says:

        Vlad,
        “A lot of ex-colonies probably wish they were still under benign British rule.”
        Perhaps not if they truly knew where the islamic UK was going………..

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    • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

      Fed
      Surely ‘ a long huawei away’ 🙂
      I’ll get me coat.

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  9. G.W.F. says:

    ‘You can’t trust the BBC’ says Ezra Levant who is coming over to cover the Tommy Robinson trial tomorrow, July 4th.

    No news about the trial, not even from any of the the right of centre journalists.

    An amazing hush up with main avenues of social media silenced

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  10. Sluff says:

    BBC 1 news at 1820.
    The women’s football match on the BBC was the most watched programme of the year so far.
    Got that ?
    Let me repeat.
    The women’s football match on the BBC was the most watched programme of the year so far.
    Got the message now? Do I need to repeat?

    The BBC really, really, really want you to know that.
    The BBC. No news. All agenda.

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    • JimS says:

      My first CD was my most played CD.

      It wasn’t when I later had a choice of other new CDs.

      I’m not really a TV watcher but maybe the Femball was the only new thing on?

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      • Scroblene says:

        “Femball”!

        Is that another lbgtqwerty type?

        Is it a special applicator to ease the dermal adhesions in such areas?

        or…

        Is it all b******s?

        (I once met a chap who claimed to have five d***s. I told him that was a load of b*****s, but he claimed that his underpants fitted him like a glove)!

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  11. Fedup2 says:

    Owen Jones has a column in the BBC Guardian Newspaper which says “ a partisan civil service is a threat to us all” in the context of fuzzy Comrade Corbyn .

    I didn’t read the article – I’d never read anything by him – he is not worthy of the time of reasoned people . It just made me laugh that he moans about a civil service which commented on his boss – yet when it comes to years of civil service – pro Reich EU work habits – not a mention .

    Many years ago -when I was studying EU Law at the end of my degree – I’ll never forget what my prof said in relation to the UK and it’s implementation of EU law .

    NB – I should have left enough troll food in this one for the drunken 2a.m. Troll Visitor(s).

    He said whereas many EU states enforce EU laws if it suits them – if it doesn’t – they aren’t too enthusiastic about enforcement – where as the UK always produced a ‘gold plated ‘ version courtesy of civil servants seeing the EU as superior and the place to want to go and work .

    So little – limited intellect – Owen – look a bit deeper when you want to criticise the traitorous Civil Service – at the deep end of the Swamp ….

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    • theisland says:

      “… civil servants seeing the EU as superior and the place to want to go and work”

      Says it all.
      Anyone know how many functional oubliiettes survive in the British Isles?

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    • Sluff says:

      just to support Fedup’s thesis with a variation on the theme.
      Check out and compare the 2005 implementation of the EU directive on Asbestos in a. The UK b. Italy.

      In the UK- gold plated. Prescott wanted to show how pro-worker he was so the directive was toughened up and implemented early (around 2002).
      Lots of paper-chasing and holding-meetings job creation for civil servants.

      In Italy, they did nothing except waited until Dec 31 2004, the last day – and produced a 1 pager saying in terms ‘EU Directive xyz is hereby incorporated into Italian law from Jan 1 2005’. End of’. How or whether they actually enforced it I do not know.
      But the difference in approach was stark. As may be gathered, I had a ringside seat.

      A feature of the EU issue is that there are these cases where the EU has taken the blame but really it was the UK government and civil service that did the damage. Denmark for instance seems to have a strict immigration policy which we could have had……but didn’t.
      So ironically the actions of the pro EU gold-platers directly caused some of us to become Brexiteers. The very opposite of what they intended.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Sluff
        The collective wisdom of all in the seminar in which I was sitting was that the EU and the UK just weren’t made for each other – and that included the Prof .
        A decade or two down the line look what – hopefully – comes to pass . I do enjoy being pronounced ‘thick ‘ by the likes of `Soubry when it comes to wanting to leave the EU as a political unit as opposed to Europe – which we are sort of related too – until they have another civil war ….

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      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        Sluff – yes just about to post below but I see you’ve got there already with your comment :

        We should never forget that, although we rightly depise the EU, there were very destructive and detrimental decisions made by our own civil servants and politicians which were made ultra vires the EU’s remit or we rigidly enforced their stupid rules while every other country ignored them.

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  12. Dystopian says:

    A “man” and a “woman” arrested in Luton on terrorism charges.
    Clearly not white or far right or supporters of Tommy Robinson, or the biased BBC would have said so and made more of it.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/amp/uk-england-beds-bucks-herts-48858791

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      Not on the BBC front page but buried away on a regional BBC section.

      It’s only Terrorism, after all.

      The Brexit Party being raided by the Electoral Commission and yet cleared of wrong doing makes BBC front page.

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      • pertelote says:

        “A “man” and a “woman” arrested in Luton on terrorism charges”

        “part & parcel…”?

        innit”!?

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  13. Fedup2 says:

    A socialist asked a question during PMQs about the BBC breaching it’s promise to retain free TV licences for the over 75s . So guido researched this slugs’ expense claims and found that he recovered the cost of his TV licence from the taxpayer .

    Set me thinking – how many MPs actually pay for their TV licence as opposed to getting the taxpayer to do it ? Would the list make double figures ..?

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      I hope this over 75’s Licence Fee issue will destroy the BBC.

      Its the hungry and lonely elderly folk paying for the BBC champagne-socialist, free-loading luvvies.

      A powerful concept.

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    • andyjsnape says:

      no doubt the beeb has done its figures, they are probably banking on say 50% paying up – this might make up for the people stop paying.

      Personally i feel close it down, it no longer represents the people of the United Kingdom. Maybe a name change to EU.BC. How about just doing actual news and cutting the extra added crap

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    • vesnadog says:

      Fed,

      “So guido researched this slugs’ expense claims and found that he recovered the cost of his TV licence from the taxpayer ”

      If this is true; and I have no reason to believe that its not true; then no wonder the BBC always seem to get what she asks the MPs for its regular increase of the licence fee.

      Good grief!

      Who on earth is running [down] this nation of ours?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Guido published the extract from this characters ‘ expenses claims .if he had any honour he would have declared how re claimed a refund for his TV licence before asking the question .

        Don’t get me wrong – £150 is peanuts to these characters – there is never just one address and I suspect most own more than two – in and out of Blighty .

        But to many people a sum like £150 would worry them and keep them awake at night . As well as the fear of a visit from the TV licencing gestapo and the shame of being caught .decent elderly people – abuser the the alien British State and its’ bloated self serving broadcaster .

        One has to wonder how much of the likes of The Guardian and BBC are funded by various bits of the public sector.

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        • vesnadog says:

          Fed,

          Guardian is getting the support – cash – from someone.

          No newspaper can survive for long with so few subscribers.

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  14. StewGreen says:

    Thailand cave rescue Monday night at 8pm on PBS America
    … I wonder if Elon Musk will be in it

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Never thought I’d be watching the Smithsonian channel and PBS America – but who could have believed the British State and it’s Broadcaster could have turned into Far Left mush so quickly .?

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      • vesnadog says:

        I never. I repeat never watch any BBC TV programme unless its simply to pop-in to the “BBC Rainbow Show” AKA: The Victoria Derbyshire Show.

        Or if a breaking news I pop into the BBC News/Sky News.

        Never, I repeat, never do I watch nor listen to any BBC Programme which boats itself as a comedy programme. Unless the BBC from the 60s-80s.

        I even hesitate to believe the BBC weather announcers, even the female Blonde one.

        I have Netflix and Freeview and they do a wonderful job, thank you very much.

        Our family is very close indeed to cancelling our BBC licence subscription.

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  15. Fedup2 says:

    The machinations of the British State will be demonstrated on Thursday when TR goes to court . Does the court throw the case out ? Postpone it again to increase stress and costs , or run the trial
    If there is a trial without a jury he will be convicted . It’s a political trial .
    If there is a trial with a jury he will be convicted – try finding a non snowflake jury in Londonistan

    And if he is convicted – off to a Muslim dominated prison …. for more physical and psychological torture.

    Good Luck TR . Please let me be wrong ….

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  16. Terminal Moraine says:

    Two statues decapitated in the last week in Ireland; an Archbishop at Thurles Cathedral and a statue of Mary in Mayo.

    Probably just accidents… some kids playing and a machete slipped, nothing to worry about. Add it to the list of French churches spontaneously combusting and let’s all watch Stormzy rap about ballet shoes instead

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  17. StewGreen says:

    One party turned their backs on an anthem
    .. the other parties have turned their backs on DEMOCRACY

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    • vesnadog says:

      Stew,

      Did you notice how the one’s who turned their backs in the EU building were “looking outwards” and the others were “looking inwards”

      Great Britain looks “outwards” to the rest of the world

      The one’s who look “inwards” are committed to that stance for ever. A kind of looking at their own navels if you will.

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  18. StewGreen says:

    One LibDem wore an honest T-shirt

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  19. Doobster78 says:

    Not politically motivated he says !!!! Pull the other one you publicity seeking non entity !!!!

    Wonder how much the BBC have donated “anonymously” to his crowd funding ? ?????

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  20. pertelote says:

    flicking through the channels, as you do, and there’s a football match between an orange team and a blue team on BBC. Swear to God I saw Gazza in a pink wig and false eyelashes playing No.7 for the oranges ..going to lie down now!!..too much red wine?

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  21. pugnazious says:

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    Christopher Booker has died…the BBC’s report…‘Christopher Booker has died….he was a columnist for the Telegraph….Booker was a eurosceptic and didn’t believe in climate change’

    Note the dismissive ‘Booker’ used before mentioning the two Holy Grails…the EU and Climate Change…..Christopher Booker was a heretic and his name must be expunged from the record….curiously there seems no mention of his death on the website.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      It should read: Christopher John Penrice Booker, died on the 3rd July 2019….he was a columnist for the Telegraph….Booker voted for British Independence, but died before it was delivered. He also did not believe that carbon dioxide caused Climate Change, but died before proof that carbon dioxide warming was false, was delivered. (see below)

      Svante Arrhenius produced the most damaging and expensive mistake in the history of science. His carbon-dioxide Global warming formula DOES NOT WORK on planets with carbon-dioxide atmospheres. Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller produced the formula that WORKS for both the carbon dioxide atmospheres of Venus and Mars, proving that the atmospheric mass/gravity/pressure Greenhouse effect of James Clerk Maxwell, found in 1888, is correct. Gravity pulling molecules downward producing the heat gradient. Even a simpler mass/gravity/pressure formula using three factors has been around since the 19th Century. The Ideal Gas Law has been found to work for the carbon dioxide atmosphere of Venus. See below.

      Calculating planetary surface temperatures made easy

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  22. pugnazious says:

    ‘Paratrooper called Mandela ‘terrorist”

    That, dear BBC, is because he was a terrorist.

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  23. Thoughtful says:

    The BBC reports that the man who fell from the aircraft over London wasn’t very well known in Kenya, but even though he was only in the UK a short time he made a tremendous impact!

    In other news Amazons drone delivery service has been found to be faulty after a man in Clapham ordered a spade.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful
      You missed the false news out out all day by the MSM that the illegal immigrant died after falling from the aircraft – when in fact he was killed when he hit West London .
      ( apparently he might have been an “airport worker “ but no news on whether there is one missing – or not ) .

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Apparently he was quite down to earth.

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  24. BRISSLES says:

    50 years ago today Brian Jones, co founder of the Rolling Stones, died, and what do we have ? a couple of 30 odd year olds telling us how great he was.

    What IS it with having a young talking head on when anyone like an icon dies ? they weren’t even born to REMEMBER how great they were.

    The same with a documentary recently on the great Hollywood dancer and choreographer Bob Fosse who died in 1987. So who did they get to talk about him ? Some half wit pop star Will Young, and another fame chasing has been pop star Louise Redknapp ! What the f…k do they know ? Clearly its for cheapness, but I’d rather listen to one seasoned pensioner who can talk articulately because they know and remember, than some kid who knows bugger all and spouts clichés.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Bris
      I think it’s an ‘ age ‘ thing too – as well as pushy agents offering a discount on their talking air head …

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      • vesnadog says:

        “I think it’s an ‘ age ‘ thing too ”

        On the other hand its probably another example of gay propaganda as Will Young is a homosexual.

        Every opportunity for the gay mafia machine remember.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Well done, Brissles, for mentioning Brian Jones.

      Funny thing, the BBC normally like to tell me about an American no-mark musician. They remembered Brian Jones?!!! Things are perhaps looking up.

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  25. pugnazious says:

    Lord Hall is a liar….evasive and dishonest…blames government for the over-75’s licence fee cuts and doesn’t want to admit the deal he got from the government at the time of charter renewal…

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48848302

    In 2015 he told us he’d cut a good deal with the government…and the BBC wouldn’t lose money….

    ‘The BBC said it was the “right deal… in difficult economic circumstances”.

    BBC director general Tony Hall said: “Far from being a cut, the way this financial settlement is shaped gives us, effectively, flat licence fee income across the first five years of the next charter.”

    Lord Hall said there had been “intense negotiations” to ensure the BBC had “secured a strong deal for our audiences”.

    “If anything, I believe it will put the BBC slightly up,” he said.

    “Crucially, it gives us room for investment in the first two years of that charter. This will help us to manage the transition we all know is coming to an online world.”‘

    The BBC gets to charge people who only use the iPlayer now, the licence fee goes up with inflation, extra charges on the licence fee such as funding broadband roll-out stopped…huge savings and money making opportunities. And yet Hall has reversed his position and blames the government for what he signed up to so enthusiastically and now has decided the pensioners will pay for his mistake….and the huge wages of his ‘stars’…remind me why so many non-entities get paid such massively eye-watering salaries by our public broadcaster?

    WTF?….just a few of many, many jaw-dropping salaries for doing what exactly?…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7204035/Gary-Lineker-revealed-BBCs-highest-earner-three-female-stars-10.html

    Dotun Adebayo – £150,000 – £154,999
    Stephen Nolan – £325,000 – £329,999
    Claudia Winkleman – £370,00 – £374,999
    Jason Mohammad – £355,000 – £359,999

    And god bless her but she’s like the girl next door who popped into the studio to see her mate and ended up on the mike…bland is the word…

    Clara Amfo – £150,000 – £154,999

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Two deaths by stabbing in the capital today . That may become the new normal . I wonder what London MPs are doing to fill the void left by a hapless mayor …

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    • JimS says:

      Divide those salaries by ten and they would still be overpaid and for each of them there are ten people who would do it for that money but would be ten times better.

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    • vesnadog says:

      pug,

      “Jason Mohammad – £355,000 – £359,”

      Good grief?!

      Who on earth is this character?

      Is he some ex-city hedge fund manager?

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  26. tapwatertory says:

    Did anyone catch the bbc documentary about Anna Cambell?

    A british female who fought against ISIS on the side of the Kurds and died for the cause.

    Sounds like a worthy cause to give your life for? A bit like the brave Englishmen who gave their life during the Spanish civil war fighting fascists. (proper fascists, not honest working class people who are now deemed nazis).

    Anyway, less than ten minutes in her father says ‘she was influenced by far left activists at Sheffield university and was an active member of antifa.

    Will the bbc now investigate left wing activity at Sheffield University?

    Indeed all our Universities need to be held accountable for the hate.

    She was also linked to a certain Kurdis (sic) centre in London which is known for sending fighters to Syria.

    I’m all for defeating ISIS but are the ‘world class’ bbc going to investigate far left activity at our universities?

    These are places of debate not places of indoctration.

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  27. tapwatertory says:

    If anyone is interested I’ve never paid the tv licence in my life.

    The missus went behind my back and paid it for three years running.

    I know what its like to have someone you love betray you, it was hard, could I ever trust my beloved again?

    But then I thought how much satisfaction I’d get from cancelling it.

    We sleep in the same bed again.

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  28. Celtic_Mist says:

    The beboids don’t get much response to their Twitter feed and it’s mostly negative. BBC trying to make it sound exciting – pathetic

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      Just noticed they have a hashtag on it – #ChangeTheGame – I think they may be the only ones who have a clue what that’s about…

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    • tapwatertory says:

      I’ve watched a few England games and you get behind it because it’s your country.

      The same as if you stubbled across England v Vietnam at wiff waff on some obscure sports channel.

      The women’s game has improved immensly but stop comparing the women’s game to the proper game.

      Google ‘school boys against the USA woman’s team’

      But if it’s the only live football you’ve got out of your multi billion pound budget then so be it.

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      • BRISSLES says:

        All these people who have watched and enjoyed a load of wimmin with pulled back ponytails and Beckham style headbands (as well as hardly looking their best) playing football, can they name any of the England team I wonder ? For that matter I admit the only female cricketer I can name is Rachel Heyhoe Flint who died a couple of years ago, but as for the present team, haven’t a clue.

        Have these lady footballers had an real injuries yet ? like broken legs/ankles/footbones like most of the chaps have ? a realisation of this could soon end the potential interest by little school girls to play the game.

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    • Zelazek says:

      I know I’m being a sexist pig, I know my male gaze is reducing women to objects of my heterosexual desire, I know that comparisons are odious and that ugly lesbian footballers who look like men are equally valuable as human beings, but – phwoar! – that Jackie Groenen who plays for the Netherlands is a beautiful woman.

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  29. Beeb Brother says:

    One of the leading stories on the World Service is about black hair styles in Australia – someone might not like them or something. Lord help us.

    How is there no adult in the room saying this is just not acceptable? Amongst their army of vastly overpaid managers nobody thinks maybe someone having a hair cut is not a story worth reporting on? What on Earth are they all doing for their money?

    How little ‘oppression’ must there be that they have to go to the other side of the globe to get a pathetic non-story like this?

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  30. andyjsnape says:

    the out of touch beeb, feels this is acceptable..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-south-yorkshire-48037783

    Personally a dignified approach to the role of Mayor, but wearing a baseball cap and tshirt.
    The beeb felt the need to mention that he had band Pres.Trump from Sheffield.

    Also what he is wearing, its understandable that even the eu parliament threw him out (or asked him to leave as the beeb put it)

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “the out of touch beeb, feels this is acceptable”

      State Broadcaster is always right. Actually it only has to be in touch with itself so State Broadcaster is always right.

      Check out that programme at quarter to eight on Saturday morning for re education.

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  31. Dystopian says:

    Tommy Robinson is in court again today accused of a crime he did not commit.
    Not a peep from the BBC.

    Are they reporting on the ongoing court case where one Carl Beech aka “Nick” is alleging that he was raped over a bath by Jimmy Saville whilst he held his head under the water? Also alleges he was abused by Edward Heath, Harvey Proctor and Lord Bramall and threatened by the former head of MI5, Sir Michael Hanley, to “keep his mouth shut and do as was told or he would disappear and no one would care”.
    The BBC are usually keen on paedophile stories involving white men.

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  32. theisland says:

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    • Dystopian says:

      Meanwhile in court 1 – inquest into deaths of Muslim terrorists.
      You couldn’t make it up.

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  33. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    Mishall to Jeremy Hunt – ‘is fox hunting cruel ?” – x3 . He avoids the question instead he should have said “I don’t know – why don’t you ask a Fox you divot “

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  34. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Very sorry to hear about the death of Christopher Booker.
    Brexit owes a great deal to this man who pioneered the exposure of the EU tyranny and lies before it was even called the EU.
    RIP.

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  35. JamesG says:

    How are the BBC reacting to the fact that their beloved Labour Party is on 18% and in 4th place in the latest opinion poll? Probably trying to ignore it I would guess.

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/labour-poll-support-at-record-low-x2l8qnz7r

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  36. Stevie m says:

    They are all at it now, just saw an advert for the AA. The van turns up and out gets a black woman ffs.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Accompanied by the now norm (c)rapper music was it ?

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      • Justin Casey says:

        “Need a hand?”
        “Err….. Yes please”
        “Then CHECK YOUR PRIViLIDGE YOU WHITE RACIST CNUT !!”
        She then walks off practising gangsigns after throwing a milkshake over the car owner stabbing him and stealing his wallet in the confusion to a Stormzy soundtrack…

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    • Dystopian says:

      I’m sure there is a conspiracy to wind us all up.
      McCain only want to sell chips to black people?
      Lidl sell only want to sell to “British” black people?
      Emirates only want to do flights for black/mixed race families?
      KFC only want to sell to black people?
      Amazon only want to deliver to black people?

      However, only middle aged white couples go on cruises. That’s not “cool”.

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      • Cassandra says:

        For a ‘multicultural’ tv commercial, there seems strong evidence to suggest that there appears to be only one particular ethnic group featured.
        Am I being over sensitive to say that I feel as if I am overlooked and dare I say, being replaced?

        34wvai.jpg

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        • Cassandra says:

          By the way, here is a report from the BBC in Birmingham about a driver from the demographic group that the AA is appealing to. He was caught by the boys in blue driving around Birmingham in a car with no insurance and no……tyre.
          Somehow I doubt that he has driver breakdown cover of any sort, never mind from the AA

          https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-48852590

          _107726232_july3-carwithouttyre.jpg

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          • Beltane says:

            It’s a racial thing. Tyres are black and get worn down by constant contact with hard and unfeeling environment. Best do without such symbols of oppression.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Had the tyre been used for one of those tribal rituals used in certain Africa ‘countries ‘?

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          Two of them are long-standing characters from Red Dwarf, around which the advert is based. You’re maybe reading too much into this.

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          • Cassandra says:

            Quite possible RD. I have been a fan of Red Dwarf since the first episode but this commercial ticked all the diversity boxes; not only was the AA employee a woman, she was black. Now if this was a one off I’d probably agree with you. But look at the commercials that flood into our homes every day and a pattern can be detected; male partners are black, female partners are white and there are lots of mixed race children, regardless of the product or service being promoted. Look at any BBC or CBBC trailer and it looks like their target audiences are viewers who live in Brazilian favelas. BAME communities are said to make up around twelve percent of the population but you wouldn’t think so from the television or radio offerings.
            I think what disturbs me most is the way the BBC is rewriting history in it’s schools television output by depicting British historical or cultural icons as ‘people of colour’ (horrible phrase). I really don’t think I am exaggerating.
            So next time when a stabbing occurs in London or Birmingham and the BBC or tabloid newspaper asks what can be done, have a look at the pigmentation of the model’s hand holding the knife and ask does this photograph give a truthful representation of who is actually committing these murderous acts of violence?

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  37. pugnazious says:

    It’s incredibly important that we know how many children Boris has….it’s a question of trust and openness….if he doesn’t tell us then we must sadly conclude that he’s unfit to be Prime Minister…or so the BBC told us over days and days of questions about his children and personal life…ie….a bust up about spilt wine on a sofa.

    However the fitness, both physical and ideological, of Jeremy Corbyn must not be questioned…it seems to be irrelevant….his embrace of terrorism and terrorists, his wish to dismantle the security apparatus of the West such as Nato, our own army and intelligence agencies, his anti-semitism, his ruinous economic and societal ideology. But what we really need to know is how many children Corbyn has don’t we?

    The Civil Service has apparently leaked information concluding Corbyn is too frail to be PM….the BBC isn’t at all concerned about his health and fitness to take on the role but is purely concerned with who, in a highly damaging attack on democracy, leaked tis story. This is the same BBC that is happy to attack and undermine any politician or government it doesn’t like by using leaks or information from dodgy sources….more than happy for instance to use malicious claims made by members of Russia’s security services abut Trump as ‘fact’….ignoring the source and instead hyping and sensationalising the cliams which were ridiculous and clearly fabricated…ie the pee story…all designed to damage Trump and yet the BBC presented this as the Russians helping Trump….??? A clear lie by the BBC.

    And today, in defence of Corbyn, they wheeled in Lord Kerslake, announced merely as an ex-head of the Civil Service.

    Apparently it is not OK for the civil service to interfere in the political process [unless it’s Brexit] as they will undermine impartiality and trust in democracy.

    Kerslake told us it was important that the civil service cooperated with Labour but in fact it was more concerned, not about Corbyn’s health, but about leaving the EU as no-deal will be enormously damaging and the country is in a perilous place and the civil service is hugely frustrated that Brexit is taking up so much of its time…but it will serve whatever government is in place….just not on Brexit?

    What the BBC didn’t tell us was that Kerslake is a Labour advisor whose job it is to make the civil service work with Labour and give them access to more information….

    ‘Bob Kerslake has been tasked by Labour with helping the party prepare for entering government.’

    Kerslake has close ties to uber Marxist McDonnell…

    ‘His involvement with Labour goes back to 2015, when shortly after Jeremy Corbyn was elected leader, John McDonnell announced that Kerslake would carry out a review of whether the Treasury was “fit for purpose”. The two had worked together at the GLC in the 1980s when McDonnell was a “very good committee chair of finance”’

    …he is also of course a fervent anti-Brexit campaigner…he claims there will be riots on the streets no less….oddly BBC not so concerned about this ‘leak’ and who leaked it nor about his claims about insurrection [if it had been Farage he’d have been accused of fomenting riot and discontent]…

    ‘“We shouldn’t be preparing for riots in the streets, which is what we are doing at the moment.

    Host John Humphrys asked him: “Well that’s an exaggeration though isn’t it, nobody really believes that do they?”

    He responded: “I have to tell you there are many civil servants and local government workers spending significant time not on the jobs they’re paid to do but actually preparing for this possibility.”’

    ‘Ex-Whitehall boss and Labour adviser Lord Kerslake backs second Brexit referendum’

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    • JimS says:

      If he is an ‘ex-Whitehall boss’ how does he know what is going on inside government?

      Shouldn’t he be doing his civic duty and reporting those clearly in breach of the Official Secrets Act?

      Unless he’s fibbing of course.

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    • Banania says:

      Excellent analysis by Alexander Mercouris of the Civil Service’s attack on Corbyn.
      https://www.bitchute.com/video/eQyLfxo8ems/

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  38. imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

    Being half-awake earlier I happened to catch a bit of ‘Today’ . Thought for the Day was the usual few minutes of a cleric droning on- this time something about America. I expect the final message was going to be ‘Trump bad’ but I started drifting off again..

    Then a few minutes later there’s Justin ‘interviewing’ one of Boris’s employees. Interviewing in the sense of just talking over and never letting them finish a sentence.

    At that point I realised I was listening to the radio by mistake and reached for the off-switch.

    I find it mystifying that anyone who isn’t Labour, Green or an EU fanatic would agree to be interviewed by the BBC. Unless there is a preponderance of masochism in those of a Tory disposition.

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    • JamesG says:

      Apparently the programme is losing listeners in droves.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      imay — yesterday Emma Barnett on R5 did the same with Mims Davies and then Kwasi Kwarteng. Compare / contrast her treatment of Chuka Umunna who wafted in to the studio, exchanged a few chummy in-jokes with Emma and then was left to expound at leisure on the topics of his choice with barely an interruption.

      Reminiscent of Basil Fawlty toadying up to Lord Melbury… “You’re either crawling all over them licking their boots, or spitting poison at them like some benzedrine puff adder…”

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  39. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jul/03/brexit-party-meps-uk-brexiteers-opening-european-parliament
    Comments aplenty from the university educated, also known as those who have degrees in Eastenders, they are ruining their keyboards today.
    They have swallowed the Common Purpose propaganda hook, line, sinker and even the rod.
    They really hate us.

    “eg
    bombusterrestris 17h ago
    22
    As someone born in the EU…”

    Millions died to prevent the predecessors of the EU succeeding.
    Our European war dead would have voted Brexit, Grexit, Deuxit, Frexit, Swexit …

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  40. G.W.F. says:

    Straight Pride Day plans go ahead for a Boston Parade.
    Led by Chief Marshal Milo Yiannopoulos

    It will catch on here and the state financed Antia and UAF plus Class War will be given permission to assault participants without fear of arrest.

    https://boston.cbslocal.com/2019/06/26/boston-straight-pride-parade-date/?fbclid=IwAR2IiXqJ_lhnuwkQlKUq3qeUWQXF3ZUUxb6sI7k6kJc4cXIRUtZFycZxfiE

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  41. theisland says:

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  42. JamesG says:

    Guess what the main topic of discussion on Radio Five Live is this morning? It’s something of crucial important to the future of the country.

    You’ve guessed it: it’s whether or not it’s right that mermaids are usually portrayed as being white people.

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    • Zelazek says:

      It’s not right, James. I have seen many mermaids over the years round our coasts. They used to be exclusively white. But recently I have noticed a lot of black and brown mermaids who have migrated here from tropical waters. We should be reflecting this new reality when we depict them in our books and movies.

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  43. andyjsnape says:

    a friend works in a school and they have a presentation in the school reception – its law they have to show a multi ethnic load of kids

    just so we all feel this is the norm, EVERYWHERE

    the beeb is doing a 1st class job!

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “its law they have to show a multi ethnic load of kids”

      I wonder if this applies in Birmingham?

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      • Banania says:

        “…they have to show a multi ethnic load of kids.”
        Difficult to do that in the over-enriched areas of our cities.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      They just don’t see that it really pees people who are not racists off…..if you live in London this picture may well be true but I went to Suffolk coast and got culture shock – 99% white….then went to Chatsworh on a lovely sunny day and 95% white – 2 Asian familes, one African and some Chinese..it reflected the real make up of the country….
      You have to wonder who the adverts are aimed at…because the biggest customer base is not non white

      I know I sound like a racist by liberal terms but actually I would just lie the BBC and liberals to respect me as much as they seem to the minorities

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  44. Not Gwent says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-48868335 betting shop closures because of government stamping a stake limit on fixed odds betting machines.

    This must tear at State Broadcaster for in one hand gamblers have been protected whilst on the other innocent employees not enjoying stratospheric SB salaries are dumped out of work.

    That’s twice today that our uniquly funded broadcaster has found itself in a dilemma. The first was Carlisle airport reopening; this being celebrated whilst telling us in the same breath that we ‘all’ had to take less flights.

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  45. Dover Sentry says:

    From David Vance:

    “”I see that #TommyRobinson is back in Court today. I wish our establishment pursued paedo rape gangs with the same enthusiasm that they pursue those who expose them, don’t you?””

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    • G.W.F. says:

      I fear that the Home Secretary does not see the rape gangs as a problem. Perhaps that is due to respect for hs culture. But objections to the rape gangs he and the cabinet see as a far right threat.
      I am looking forward to comments on the trial by the tame conservatives who appear from time to time on the BBC and LBC

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  46. Monty says:

    An excellent speech by Ann Widdecombe in the eu parliament , she really gave it to them. I wonder what sort of coverage this will get from our most trusted broadcaster.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Monty,

      Thanks for posting info about that superlative speech.

      Here’s the eminent Widdecombe

      “Comments have been disabled for this video’ – I suppose by the YouTube censors, though I think the person who posts the video can disable comments.

      I wonder why.

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      • Old Goat says:

        Love it. Well said, Ann.

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        • TrueToo says:

          Old Goat,

          Yes, her passionate defence of the country is something to behold.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            The first 30 seconds is worth watching all over again just for Lucy Harris’s smile as she tries to resist laughing and cheering on Widds.

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  47. TrueToo says:

    Here’s the BBC at its narcissistic best:

    Women’s World Cup: England v USA attracts highest peak audience of 2019

    I thought perhaps they would also talk about the attendance at the match, But no, it’s all about the BBC patting itself on its collective back over the great numbers of viewers it had and the popularity of women’s football.

    However, here’s something really unusual for a BBC report:

    ‘The women are smashing it!’ England fans at home react to World Cup drama

    But people are divided about whether World Cup fever really has gripped the country.

    Juliet Coutts, another UCL student, is not convinced. “It feels like it’s been whipped up by the media,” she says.

    The BBC publishing a point of view it doesn’t agree with without any spin on it? Miracles will never cease.

    The reporter must have been delighted to find an American in the crowd who doesn’t like USA men’s soccer, but was glued to this USA-UK women’s game:

    He’s got caught up in the fans’ passion for the game. Back home, he’s more into American football and basketball – and definitely not men’s football.

    Right, yet another dig at the men’s game.

    I read a few BBC reports but could not find any BBC bias against the women’s team, just enthusiasm at their prospects and sympathy over their defeat. This is in such stark contrast to the bias against the men’s side, with the BBC mostly showing snobbish indifference to it or active support for England’s opponents.

    Yet another reason to abolish the license tax.

    Having said all that, apparently there were 53 000 spectators at the game. That’s not too shabby. And the game itself was not too shabby, with the players playing their hearts out. Also, unlike the men, the women don’t roll on the ground pretending agony after a foul.

    I’ve seen men’s World Cup games that were unwatchable, especially world champions Spain – who have made an art form out of the defensive, back and forth passing game that puts ball possession ahead of anything else and seems to rely on lulling their opponents into a false sense of security, suddenly dashing forward to score and then retreating to circle the wagons again. They play football like it’s a bloody bullfight.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “retreating to circle the wagons again”

      Not an expert on the modern game though “park the bus” springs to mind.

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      • TrueToo says:

        Not Gwent,

        Dunno what “park the bus” refers to.

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        • Not Gwent says:

          Park the bus is a defensive strategy where the goalmouth is packed with bodies (to have the same effect as if the team bus was parked blocking the goal).

          At least that’s my understanding of the term.

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  48. Beltane says:

    Labour are at their lowest ever point in poll ratings, with a scant 18% popularity. Except in Peterborough, of course, where their probity and achievement record is way above the norm.

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  49. Tabs says:

    I was quickly browsing the BBC News website and on the main page is a link to an article “The truth about anti-Semitism at university”. I follow that link…
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcthree/article/09914b55-a6b8-43a0-a619-71507c7fa71b

    At the bottom of the page is a link “How to masturbate”. I might be getting old but is that actually “news”?!?

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    • Beltane says:

      The message is psychological Tabs. It’s a subliminal guide for under-achievers on ‘Ways to get a grip’.

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    • vlad says:

      Mental masturbation: the beeb are past masters at it.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      The official newspaper of the Communist party in the Soviet Union was called Pravda, meaning ‘truth’ in Russian. Citizens instinctively knew that anything published in it was invariably not the truth, but simply the Party line, the things they wanted you to believe. So it is with their spiritual successors, the BBC: any article entitled “The truth about…” is going to be or contain propaganda. In self-deluding BBC ‘balanced style’, it makes a passing nod to anti-semitism in the Labour Party, but the over-riding impression is that it is down to the ‘Far Right’. There is the inevitable attempt to blame Brexit: “Professor Alberto Testa, an expert on the far-right from the University of West London. He thinks that the Brexit vote could have given some holders of anti-Semitic views an excuse to voice them. “There has been a resurgence of anti-Semitism and also Islamophobia partly because of the divided climate brought about by Brexit.”
      Curiously, or rather not curiously of course, there is no explicit reference to a group where anti-semitic attitudes are frequently prevalent. Here’s a clue: a couple of examples are cited, one involving a Dr Maaruf Ali of Essex university (he was sacked) and another involving Malia Bouattia (who was first female Muslim leader of the NUS). Neither of these are what you might describe as goose-stepping Aryans.

      Be under no illusion: there are a small number of neo-Nazi nutjobs who hold and express obnoxious views. There is what can be described as a low-level of passive ‘antipathy’ toward Jewish people among a large chunk of general society. And most ordinary Muslims do not hold anti-semitic views. But the main factors here are that there is also a small, determined and vociferous group of Muslim activists who do hold virulent anti-semitic views; that they are present in local Labour Party organisations; that an estimated 30-40 Labour MPs are dependent upon Muslim votes and the unrepresentative ‘community spokesmen’ that co-ordinate them; that whilst criticism of the state of Israel can be perfectly legitimate, so-called anti-Zionism and support for the BDS Movement is often a smokescreen and euphemism for anti-Semitism on the Left. Somehow, the BBC manages to completely ignore that.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Given their obvious collective name, why would they need such training?

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