Start the Week Open Thread 24 June 2019

Three Years and 1 day since the majority voted to leave the EU . The BBC fights every minute to resist what must happen and it’s  129 days until the 31st October when we are due to leave – again . If it was possible – the BBC will dream up more ways of undermining our democracy – and expect people to pay the TV licence and watch them do it .

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387 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 24 June 2019

  1. Terminal Moraine says:

    Sorry if someone’s already posted this, but David Lammy said on Twitter at the weekend that he would “pour whatever I can get my hands on, on an avowed White Supremacist” in the context of fighting racism.

    Other than the Independent, I can’t see a single other outlet reporting this. Search online and see the black hole of omission. It can’t be mistaken for a joke (Brand) or a slip up (Baker); both incidents that filled the airwaves for a week.

    This is an elected member of parliament talking… or does it now count as part and parcel of fighting the good fight?


    • Helen Richardson says:

      And found this further down his Twitter page:

      We brought style to Britain, we brought colour, we brought fantastic food, we brought things that was missing here in Britain, and having the Caribbean people here has given a sparkle and elegance” – Baroness Floella Benjamin on @LBC.— David Lammy (@DavidLammy) 22 June 2019


      And: “we brought things that was missing” ???


      • Fedup2 says:

        I think that persons ‘ definition of ‘style ‘ differs from mine. I can’t think of a single positive thing . I don’t eat goat curry but I do suffer black yobs with the boom in the car which I understand is justified by ‘ sharing their culture’

        The lady , Lammy and the rest should be thankful every day that they got to a soft country which allows them to speak such drivel without consequences . Yet .

        And of course the white population was never consulted about such people being imported ….


        • Helen Richardson says:

          The only good thing about Lammy and similar race hustlers is that they are so patently absurd, they undermine the cause which they claim to be promoting.

          I don’t know (and don’t care) whether his ancestors did in fact die fighting “shit”, although they were probably slaves. I do know that what this country has, and seems determined to give away, wasn’t handed to us on a plate in spite of what he might think. No silver spoons in my family.

          He’s getting worse.


        • Dystopian says:

          “And of course the white population was never consulted about such people being imported ….”

          Agreed. Why are we constantly told that we need diversity?
          I didn’t see much diversity in the Afghanistan or Bangladesh cricket teams the other day. Nor did I see diversity in the women’s Cameroon football team.

          Why should we have all this diversity.


        • G says:

          ‘Ship em’ all (and I mean, ALL) out. Two or three super-container ships ought to do the job. First stop…………..


      • gb123 says:

        I think David has forgotten that food is not just eaten in upmarket restaurants near the Houses of Parliament or reachable by bicycles bought on our expenses.
        Even in that environ he might want to take a look at an Indian restaurant at 99 Regent Street that has been around since 1926 or look at a history book showing the docklands area of London since its inception in Roman times. We, as a global trading nation, have been exposed to food from all over the world including South America, the far east, Scandinavia, Arabia and everything in between. Examples include wine from the Romans, smoked fish from the Danes and Vikings, oranges and lemons from the Crusades, and potatoes from the Americas.
        One thing we did get from the Caribbean was sugar which has kept the dental industry busy for centuries.


        • Helen Richardson says:

          You can’t forget something you didn’t know in the first place.

          His performance on Mastermind revealed the extent of his General Knowledge.


        • JimS says:

          Sugar cane, like the Lammy clan, were imports to the Carribean islands, neither are native to the region.


        • BRISSLES says:

          I don’t think my relatives in 1920’s Rotherham even realised there was ‘foreign’ food in the country at that time. Staple diet in Yorkshire was potatoes, offal, Yorkshire puddings, and if you kept pigs then bacon and pork was on the menu. It was hand to mouth living – literally, and the main source of employment was working down the pit, at a height of 3′ at the coalface. The women laid out the dead, and brought babies into the world. Not a lot of ‘sparkle and elegance’ then !!! But hey ! who wouldn’t want to live upstairs at Downton Abbey !!


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  2. MarkyMark says:

    EU Fear referendum revisited…..

    52% didn’t believe in the major political parties.

    52% didn’t believe the government in power..

    52% didn’t believe the EU government was good for the UK.

    52% didn’t believe actors who pretend for a living.

    52% didn’t follow the majority of 797 Lords and 650 MPs.

    52% didn’t believe the media.

    52% didn’t believe in fear.





    • JimS says:

      ITV’s drama Victoria makes us think those damn colonials should know their place!

      (And that goes for those uppity Continentals too!)


  3. MarkyMark says:

    Shhhhhh … Private Matter ….



  4. Dystopian says:

    Bojo interview on Talk Radio
    Categorically, no further extensions.

    Refreshing to hear a proper interview rather than political point scoring and scorn as per the biased bbc.


  5. smoogie7 says:

    Nothing on the BBC on the actions of the hate group ‘Class War’ and their actions outside of Carrie Symond’s flat?

    These anarcists have ran a woman out of her own home thanbks to the actions of their ‘neighbours’ who have since gone into hiding somewhere.

    The Guardian spammed this story for days on end and yet failed to tell us the full story on what happens next. Yobs have been celebrating in the area and have a history of public disorder.

    The BBC of course joins in on the ‘get Boris’ game and yet have now lost interest in reporting in the area once the thugs come out.

    So who are this Class War group then? It seems like the BBC are not interested in letting us know. They have no problem telling us how bad the potential PM is yet stop when they tell us that there are people willing to get at them.

    Shocking bias and it gets worse by the day 🙁

    By the way Boris is still a favorite amongst the membership and his ratings remain good


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      The news is what is reported.

      If Boris Johnson and his girlfriend have a row, that is news if the news organisations decide to make it so.

      If Boris’s girlfriend, a victim of the Black Cab Rapist, is forced out of her home by left wing scum protesting outside, that is not news because news organisations do not report it. But for the internet would we even know it had happened?

      There is no justice.


  6. Dystopian says:

    People ringing in and commenting on what a brilliant interview it was with Boris by Talk Radio host.


    • smoogie7 says:

      Looking around I see a lot of support for Johnson. I see a bit of it on Facebook and even from some hard Brexit supporters who were previously leaving during May’s time.

      The only people who do not like him are Labour supporters, even their own so called ‘leave’ voters (fake Brexiteers who would still vote Labour even after Labour trying to block no deal) and of course a few remainers who are split amongst half a dozen, but usually small remain parties.

      I think that Johnson has this in the bag. He just has to have more control over these rebels who would vote with Labour in a vote of NC. Those remainers in his party need to be dealt with as they are opening the door for a Labour/ Lib Dem/ SNP coalition that would throw referendums out all over the place.

      The ball is in Johnson’s court and I hope that he does not let us down


  7. Beltane says:

    In depth Boris character assassination from Max Hastings in, believe it or not, the Guardian. Max goes to town on his ‘one time employee’ when editor of the Telegraph, making only very slightly biased yet predictable comparisons with Churchill.
    Naturally, although some might say it has equal relevance, Max remains silent on his own little drink problem but that is, of course, a private matter.


    • BRISSLES says:

      So how many did Yvette offer to house in her home I wonder.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Marky – there must be a way of following this up. It certainly needs to be. Or did Amber get away with it?
      Lloyd Johnson may know? Sajid Javid should be asked. During his campaign would have been a good time.
      What happened to the person/s responsible for ‘losing’ this information?
      Sacking was to good. But you do get the impression, some professional lying was going on here. Talk about negligence! Cover-up. Surprised it went away so quickly.


    • G says:

      “Vulnerable Borders”? What a joke.
      Only last week our muslim Home Secretary divulged that we can expect many more millions of “refugees” to come to the UK starting next year. The majority will come from muslim countries. All living on, ‘our dime’. Otherwise known as, “jizya”.


  8. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Meanwhile on order-order there is a Hunt advertisment.
    Photograph of the would-be PM, described as “THE ENTRPRENEUR WHO WILL TURBO CHARGE OUR ECONOMY”
    I only know enough about Hunt to totally distrust him.

    According to his Wikipedia article Hunt was born with a silver spoon in his mouth.
    This turbo charging entrepreneur then failed in several enterprises, including the tankers of Marmalade to Japan, where he met his Chinese wife.
    Presumably some family silver spoons were sold to repay the losses created by this Buffett-like tycoon because
    Wikipedia does not note any bankruptcies. Eventually a Hunt business prospered, but we can all be entrepreneurs with the family silver behind us.

    Since the leadership contest became Hunt v Johnson the former has issued a number of statements, in one of which he pledged to leave with no deal, if the withdrawl negotiations were unsuccesful. Which is no guarantee whatsoever, May is the only person alive (if she is alive), apart from Hunt, who thinks her WA is worth pursuing.

    Hunt is also offering increased defence spending, why now? Why was he not demanding that the deliberate emasculation of UK miltary power, concomitant with subsuming UK forces in the EU, was stopped?

    The UK economy seems to manage despite the expertise of Hunt, will Hunt sack Carney the foreign pro EU mole? Will Hunt act to prevent Carney being replaced by another foreign stooge?

    I believe the Conservative Party members want the same as all BBBC contributors, to leave the EU.

    Change the advertisment to “THE LIAR WHO WILL KEEP THE UK IN THE EU” Guido.


    • theisland says:

      “Why was he not demanding that the deliberate emasculation of UK miltary power, concomitant with subsuming UK forces in the EU, was stopped?”

      None of them care.


  9. Guest Who says:

    BBC Moaning emole:

    “Tory leadership race: Johnson defends Brexit stance and row silence

    He’s the favourite to become the next Conservative leader and prime minister, but Boris Johnson has been accused of avoiding the media during the campaign so far. However, the former foreign secretary and London mayor has spoken to BBC political editor Laura Kuenssberg, defending his Brexit plans and his decision not to speak about the widely reported row between himself and partner Carrie Symonds.

    He said he did not believe “for a moment” that the UK would leave the EU without a deal, although he was willing for it to happen if necessary. Mr Johnson also said the EU would have to co-operate to avoid a hard Irish border.

    On his personal life, he refused to describe what had happened with Ms Symonds in the early hours of last Friday, saying: “I do not talk about stuff involving my family, my loved ones.”

    The BBC looks at Mr Johnson’s track record in politics and that of fellow leadership contender Jeremy Hunt”

    They do not appear too conflicted about the direct contradiction they participated in but misreport.


  10. Dystopian says:

    Mike Graham on Talk Radio calling out the complete utter climate change nonsense and the “idiots” in parliament.
    What a refreshing change from the bullshit broadcasting corporation (BBC).

    The irony of all of this is that they can’t even accurately forecast whether or not it will rain tomorrow, but they claim to know what the climate will be like in 50 years time…


  11. Guest Who says:

    Chris is ace.


    • Dystopian says:

      Amazing how they can rush this through but can’t manage Brexit.


      • Not Gwent says:

        The consequences of this casual surrender to shouty Greens will dwarf anything Brexit could impose.


        • G.W.F. says:

          MPs have had their minds taken over by one of the children of the damned who warn about the climate. They made a movie about them, now they have returned.



      • StewGreen says:

        No parliament can rush through what the metroliberal bubbleworld want
        Hence they rushed to stop Brexit
        They rush to virtue signal on Climate.

        Note the way they don’t put the trillion pound Climate plan to a referendum
        If they and lost they’d again be quick to block the public’s decision


  12. Guest Who says:

    It’s true, because Rob says so.



  13. Guest Who says:

    It’s possible that the bbc operates some kind of positive, or negative, caller filtering, depending on who is being interviewed.

    Maybe one honed by the QT production team?


    • G says:

      “So two of the @brexitparty_uk female MEPs went into @BBCWomansHour and got a hail of abuse from listeners.”
      That’ll learn em’.
      Sensible luminaries whether political or otherwise, appear to be increasingly giving the BBC studios a miss in the knowledge that they will only be abused one way or another. Is it me or is that the way it looks?


  14. Doobster78 says:

    Why has David Lammy’s twitter feed not been suspended ? All it consists of is pure hatred and calls to arms. Anyone else with this kind of incitement of their feed would be well gone by now !!Imagine if this was a Right Wing twitter account ? As its Far Left, that’s fine per bloody usual !!!


  15. StewGreen says:

    “For public dialogue to make any progress, it is important to recognise when a particular debate has been won and leave it there,” she declares in her article, suggestively titled: “Free speech isn’t under threat. It just suits bigots and boors to suggest so.”
    AFAIK There are only 2 sexes
    but gender is a made up construct, so people can say they are non-binary
    but it’s not illegal to disagree
    Extremely rarely someones genes are mixed up so they different characteristics from their XY chromosome eg that South African female athlete is more female despite her male XY chromosome.
    A story the BBC delayed reporting on

    Sweden 17 yr old migrant sex with 6 yr old

    Dellers modest title


    • Not Gwent says:

      “For public dialogue to make any progress, it is important to recognise when a particular debate has been won and leave it there”

      How is victory to be called? Surely they don’t mean by the mob?


  16. digg says:

    Boris bashing…

    As each day passes the denigration and accusations from the left-wing press and the BBC getting shriller and shriller. Moles are going everywhere digging for any scrap that can be spun into a negative story.

    Why won’t you explain if are a women beater?

    Is the photo of you and Carrie an old one?

    And now today – Max Hastings journolist (ex BBC and left wing press) has rubbished him comprehensivly – (he has form for this having done almost exactly the same to Gordon Brown).

    Then a claim that Boris is conniving with the hated Steve Bannon.

    And right now Gordon Brown on R4 suggesting that the Conservative party are now extremists of the far right.

    Where have we all seen this crappy desperate press muck-spreading skullduggery before?

    Oh of course!… in the last USA presidential run-up.

    Well I hope the turds end up with the same outcome they got there they are certainly getting just as screamingly desperate as Clinton became.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Not just the BBC. LBC seem proud of the fact they wasted a good chunk of their Boris phone in trying to get him to answer something he said he wouldn’t.

      Think what information they could have used that time to get.


      • Helen Richardson says:

        And now the delightful Emily Thornberry has weighed in (at ….. no, never mind), congratulating Jeremy Hunt for “not just for getting into the final two, but also being the only candidate who has the police outside his house for the right reasons!”

        Well, Emily, I suppose having a police car outside your house for any reason is more respectable than a white van, unless it’s Ocado with your Waitrose delivery.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Helen, I prefer not to think of Emily Thornberry, Lady Nugee, or whatever.

          Is Snuffy phatphobic?

          Ummmhhh er I’m sorry but er, I cannot answer questions that are ummh highly personal. I believe in keeping my er er family & personal life separate from the public realm and the public persona.


        • Rob in Cheshire says:

          I see Lady Nugee has nothing to say about a girl who was a victim of Worboys being hounded out of her flat by extreme left wing protesters picketing her home.

          It seems for hypocrites like Lady Nugee the benefits of sisterhood only go so far. These people are like real life Citizen Smiths. They dream of class war, stealing the property of the people who earned it, and murdering anyone who stands in their way. They love Chavez and Maduro and dream of turning Britain into a socialist hell hole. And EU traitors like Kenneth Clarke and Dominic Grieve would rather have them in power than have Britain leave the EU! We live in mad and dangerous times.


      • Not Gwent says:

        It’s sad. Boris is right to separate public policy from private life and shut up about the latter. Those Conservatives who think it more important to be led by a more saint like figure know what to do.

        Just because a question is asked it doesn’t need to be answered. If there is a price to be paid for keeping quiet then let it be paid.


    • Up2snuff says:

      Poor old Gordon, digg.

      I found myself thinking that the old boy is getting confused. Just like Jonathan Sumption in the Reith Lectures, I felt that Gordon appeared to contradict himself two or three times. Sarah nailed him with a couple of pointed questions that showed him up a bit.


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Did she have to pick a Nokia out of her teeth, or has he calmed down a bit these days?


    • G says:

      “As each day passes the denigration and accusations from the left-wing press and the BBC getting shriller and shriller. Moles are going everywhere digging for any scrap that can be spun into a negative story.”
      Boris: welcome to Trump land. But what the Russian involvement I ask myself?


    • Beltane says:

      Max Hastings cultivates an air of knowledgeable patrician, much like Hesletine and every bit as spurious. At least the former’s knifing, being confined to the Guardian, will be read by those few who gain their copies gratis and fewer still who actually pay for their malign, fictitious and pseudo-intellectual Guarbage.


  17. Roland Deschain says:

    From the flogging a dead horse department of the BBC.

    Now, children, complete the following sentence.
    Comments could……..


    • JimS says:

      Why is Women’s ‘football’ white? Couldn’t Getty Images come up with the goods?


  18. StewGreen says:

    July 23rd is result day for PM vote


    • Fedup2 says:

      The traitor MPs who aren’t on nice holidays will be screaming for a recall of the undemocratic parliament. BoJo has to ensure that doesn’t happen .
      Shame there s no easy way of getting rid of the traitor speaker because he ll spend the summer looking for ways to block the Brexit Act .


  19. StewGreen says:

    BBCs Ann Sarnoff is the new chair and CEO of Warner Bros.
    She is currently the president of BBC Studios Americas.


  20. MarkyMark says:

    Fifa Women’s World Cup: Five ways women’s football beats men’s
    By Alice Evans
    BBC News

    1. Value for money
    2. More goals
    3. Women stick to the rules
    4. Global competition
    5. LGBT+ support

    It might be too tough to call which is the better team for now, but the women have everything to prove when they face Norway in the quarter-finals on Thursday.



    • Fedup2 says:

      There is a desperation in the Wimmins movement to undermine or take over all areas of life which tended to be male .
      Any criticism of this instantly gets the misogyny label which I suggest to too simplistic

      Every so often the suicide figures for men are talked about and the question is asked ‘ why?’ . Well as the position of men is undermined and they are views by the snowflakes as inferior there may be at least a contributing factor – more importantly of course is the undermining of the family as nature intended it .

      Yes – I’m a white right wing dinosaur.


    • NISA says:

      Apparently the referee did not require Cameroon to apply point 3 above. They were allowed to get away with bad behaviour to avoid them walking off the field.


  21. StewGreen says:

    Is there no end to their milking of Jo Cox’s name ?


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Just a thought, but what if Jo was wrong? What if we don’t have much in common with a 7th Century religion based on violence and conquest, founded by a serial killer and child sex offender? What then?


      • JimS says:

        The strange thing is that they think they have more in common with people that they have never met, with a different culture, a different religion, speaking a different language and brought up in a different country than the ‘Daily Mail reader’, Brexit-voter, posh person or white man living next door that shares everything else with them.


        • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

          And likewise the muslim mayor of London has more in common with isis than me.


  22. NISA says:

    Boris Johnson’s tax proposals would cost “many billions” and benefit the wealthy the most, according to the Institute for Fiscal Studies.

    No surprise that the BBC do not question the language of the Institute for Fiscal Studies, they probably both share the same statist view.
    Boris’s proposals do not “cost” anything, they just result in money being left in people’s pockets rather than being spent by the government


  23. StewGreen says:

    Friday : sentencing came through after the May trial of a couple of Huddersfield groom/rape/traffic gang members
    Yet BBC chose Boris argument for operation banging on
    \\ Mohammed Akram and Usman Khalid, part of a gang that raped girls as young as aged 11, were sentenced for further offences including rape, sexual assault, abduction and trafficking.
    In 2018, they were also in the 20 gang members sentenced for the abuse of 15 girls.//


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Repeat after me:

      “We have more in common than that which divides us.”


  24. StewGreen says:

    Yorkshire Post “20 year old Roofer jailed for defrauding pensioners”
    the report gives his address
    If I tell you it’s Griff Park T________ Site, Nuneaton
    can you guess the missing word ?


  25. Doobster78 says:

    Was just listening to a couple of lefties at work chuntering on about Boris …. just sat quietly, inwardly chuckling to myself.

    These lefties haven’t half had a rough time recently !!!

    All their time and energy opposing President Trump …. WASTED
    All their time trying to impeach President Trump …… WASTED
    All their time campaigning to Remain ….WASTED
    All their time campaigning to overturn Brexit ….. WASTED
    All their time trying to smear Boris …. WASTED
    All their time protesting about Trumps visit ….WASTED
    All their time protesting about austerity …. WASTED
    All their time protesting about climate change … WASTED (as its fiction)

    Seems they have a awful lot of time and energy spare that could be put to better use to me !!!!!! Flaming crackpots … the lot of em.

    All that effort, dear oh dear .


    • Up2snuff says:

      Doobs, we could create some oversize hamster wheels connected to electricity generators. Your colleagues could then spend some of that campaigning energy being ‘truly green’ and generating some electricity for us to listen to the BBC while we sit around and spot their bias.


  26. StewGreen says:

    Last year BBC Top Gear got the tractor world speed
    with 87mph
    … but C4 with JCB and Guy Martin …just


    • Non Snowflake says:

      Now that’s a tractor that I wouldn’t mind being stuck behind.


  27. Guest Who says:

    Looks like the BBC hospitality guys are going to have to hit the licence fee special fund to stock up enough freebies to keep their yellow-taloned frequent guest expert in ‘motivational incentives’.


    • Fedup2 says:

      There was an excellent picture of Milliband senior in the VIP departure lounge on Sunday heading back to NYC and international rescue .

      You can’t beat ex elected politicians coming to the UK from the New World courtesy of the BBC and telling us what needs to be done – I wonder if he ran into Nick $$$$$$$ Clegg Also heading out ?


      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Poor Millipede is probably as sick as a parrot that Clegg got the Facebook gig, while he had to make do with International Rescue. The poor guy just can’t catch a break.


      • Despairada says:

        Eh? Is Ed Milliband Captain Scarlet?

        Sorry, I’ve been away.

        I’ll get me coat.


    • StewGreen says:

      So ethnic-Muslim Ash with BAME skin is left in the first class lounge unhindered
      .. I guess cos the staffer is afraid of racial tension
      Meanwhile he checks the couple she describes as “old middle class” meaning WHITE.


  28. Doobster78 says:

    More climate propaganda ………

    A UN expert has warned of a possible “climate apartheid”, where the rich pay to escape from hunger, “while the rest of the world is left to suffer”.

    Even if current targets are met, “millions will be impoverished”, said Philip Alston, the UN’s special rapporteur on extreme poverty.

    He also criticised steps taken by UN bodies as “patently inadequate”.

    “Ticking boxes will not save humanity or the planet from impending disaster,” Mr Alston warned.

    ………..They’ve been banging the same drum , the same “threats”for decades and still here we are.


    • Doublethinker says:

      Its time to start limiting the increase in population of the third world, but of course no politician or public figure could possibly say this blindingly obvious fact. In fact just opposite is routinely said. The PC brigade want all the impoverished to have a much higher standard of living which of course will use ever more resources and create ever more pollution of one form or another. Of course they never mention whether this increase in living standards is come from increased hand outs from the developed world or by assisted self help programmes. I think we can guess the answer.


    • StewGreen says:

      Even if current (CO2 reduction) targets are met, “millions will be impoverished”, said Philip Alston, the UN’s special rapporteur on extreme poverty.

      How do you read that ?
      I read that as “millions will be impoverished” by trying to make CO2 reduction targets.

      Government green tinkering always introduces costs
      there are no unicorns to pay for their costs
      they tend to feed through as increased prices for everything ie decreased buying power for each £
      So less nurses in hospitals
      and makes the poor poorer.


  29. Stevie m says:

    Where are the mp’s that voted for Boris last week. Grow a pair will you and call out the totally biased carve up that MSM are currently involved in. I don’t think the spineless bunch realise how much the conservative party is on its knees


  30. Guest Who says:

    Ben sounds hopeful. Ben is paid by the bbc.


    • Doublethinker says:

      If the rich, or indeed anyone, wants to be taxed more I suggest that they make out a cheque or arrange a bank transfer of whatever amount they feel appropriate to the relevant tax authority. I’m sure it will be welcomed. Meantime leave the rest of us alone.


    • Old Goat says:

      I’d pay bugger all to help “tackle” any non-existent scare, let alone climate change. Those who would, clearly require sectioning.


  31. ObiWan says:

    Buckle-up. Here we go again:

    ‘Climate apartheid’ between rich and poor looms, UN expert warns

    The BBC loves this kind of hysterical climate catastrophism. We’ve all been here before, many, many times. Philip Alston – special rapporteur on extreme poverty – certainly delivers the goods. He also manages to hammer home the usual attacks on the wealthy with a heavy subtext of wealth redistribution thrown in (because of course).

    I guess these malevolent, doctrinaire socialists just don’t care how daft they make themselves look when literally none of their scary predictions ever come true. It’s a particularly pernicious and spiteful form of astrological politicking. Made-up stuff becomes policy when the price of dissent is professional ruin.


  32. Guest Who says:

    OpenDemocracy has a headline.

    “Britain’s press is serving Boris Johnson, not us”

    They know stuff.


  33. digg says:

    I just read and article from the mail on Sunday by Peter Hitchens re his tussles with the BBC complaints department concerning biased news reports about Russia and Syria.

    A particular highlight was this paragraph.

    “The other party, and anyone else who repeated his claim, would be engaging in suppressio veri, a recognised form of lying by omission of significant truth, just as bad as suggestio falsi, the open expression of something the speaker knows to be an untruth. ”

    A pretty neat summing up of the BBC I would say.


  34. Guest Who says:

    Not, as such, helping the bbc there, Ian.


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      The Right Honourable Member for Greggs not a Boris fan then?


  35. Guest Who says:

    Rylan needs an intervention.


  36. StewGreen says:

    House- keeping
    reposting @dazzer, cos he posted in the wrong thread yesterday

    Interesting Piers Morgan’s first posted the tweet on the GMB account with this end wording
    ‘Can we just give Geoffrey Boycott the keys to Number 10, please?
    then he reposted it with the different ending
    “Former England cricketer @GeoffreyBoycott on Brexit.”
    (so @dazzer that’s why you had problems posting, cos #1 the tweet had been deleted
    and #2 all you need to do is post a tweets URL and then it autoembeds
    but put that URL on a fresh line otherwise the page spacing gets screwed up)


  37. Guest Who says:

    “We are teaching people that our history goes back 50 years. Our history goes back forever!”

    How a social media account celebrating LGBT history has been turned into a book. 🏳️‍🌈

    In technicolor! Until it goes black. And white.


  38. Halifax says:

    It’s probably been reported already on here so excuse me for repeating but those (I’m not going to swear) at the BBC reporting the attack on the commuter and his subsequent death as having racist overtones …..the BBC report….
    The prosecutor told the court that witness Matteo Milazzo recalled Mr Pencille saying “leave me alone, you’re racist” and “I’m not scared of you”…….no mention of that accusation on Sky they say….”The suspect called the victim racist, even though he had not said anything racist, according to a woman on the train”.

    SKY hardly the KKK themselves but the BBC just can’t help intamating that he was white and “he had it comming”…….it’s disgusting anti white bias and it has to stop soon.


  39. StewGreen says:

    LookNorth have a main story
    “Prof John Curtis says that if Labour adopt a second referendum, then it won’t be toxic to Labour”
    Their Vox Pop in Grimsby was against that narrative
    And it is strange BBC are running their headline cos today’s actual story is that the sitting Labour MP
    has sent a message to Corbyn
    “Grimsby MP Melanie Onn said a second referendum pledge would be ‘toxic’ to Labour supporters”
    26 MPs signed the message
    … the letter to Jeremy Corbyn signed by 26 Labour MPs. It rejects the idea of another referendum and urges the party to back a Brexit deal.


    • StewGreen says:

      Do you get that
      There is an actual piece of news
      : 26 MPs signed have signed message
      … the letter to Jeremy Corbyn signed by 26 Labour MPs.
      It REJECTS the idea of another referendum and urges the party to back a Brexit deal.
      specifically Grimsby MP Melanie Onn said a second referendum pledge would be ‘TOXIC’ to Labour supporters”
      The BBC report admitted all that
      but first they chose To SPIN the headline by going out and find a prof who said the opposite just so they could open with the headline
      ” if Labour adopt a second referendum, then it
      won’t be toxic to Labour”


  40. Doobster78 says:

    Jon YET AGAIN not able to control himself and off he goes with his petty little tweets. Grow up Jon FFS. A senior BBC figure behaving like you do is a complete disgrace.

    Said it before, and I will say it again. The BBC preach to us about mental health and wellbeing, they should practise what they preach and remove him from post on mental illness grounds. Just embarrassing himself every day with his TDS.


  41. JimS says:

    My neighbour’s six year-old child is getting increasingly more demanding, instead of “Please can I have a raspberry?” I now hear “Get me a raspberry!”.

    Could this have anything to do with the fact that every member of the family has their own TV and ‘Alexa’? I have just heard an adult voice in their kitchen commanding ‘Alexa’ to instruct ‘Hive’ to turn on the kettle.

    Shouldn’t the Googles and Amazons at least make their home Stazi boxes respond with, “And what is the magic word?”, as they take on the role of parent?


  42. davylars says:

    Report on BBC Look North this evening about a local whisky distillery (The Lakes Distillery) doing very well after huge investments. According to one of the directors, a large amount is being exported to North America and Asia.
    Which may come as no surprise as they are the major markets for most of the whisky distillers in the UK.
    Then our roving reporter comes out with the familiar quote.
    “Despite Brexit”


  43. Thoughtful says:

    A left wing Labour supporting paper can report an acid attack on a Muslim market trader by men wearing Burkhas. It’s been in all the mainstream papers but the BBC have decided not to report it at all not even on its regional pages.

    Wonder why not.


  44. Dystopian says:

    A programme about Her Majesty’s Cavalry celebrating the first female “cavalryman” over on ITV now. Deep joy. They’re all as bad.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Yesterday a labour MP said he would throw a’liquid’ at people he doesn’t like . Today a liberal MP says he would like to cut Boris Johnson’s head off .

      With MPs threatening violence ( on twitter ) perhaps violent times are coming – and I don’t mean the animals stabbing each other in London .

      I don’t know if the MSM is reporting this because I am limiting my exposure to the MSM. I just can’t stand hearing any more about Boris and Carly Simon .


  45. JimS says:

    I accidently find myself in Windows 10 ‘photo app’ settings. (Despite my first computer being steam-powered and coding in the days when “we only had ones”, I haven’t got a clue as to what the purpose of Win 10 is and where it hides stuff, and nor does it, as it takes five minutes “working on it” to find the only three files in ‘documents’).

    Oh joy! Lots of cartoons of people, number one being female, hijabed and no doubt lesbian. Slowly we self-destruct.