Weekend Open Thread 22 June 2019

Apparently the Far Left Failing BBC is to ‘improve vetting ‘ of those that choose to put on their biased programmes . So we can expect even less white men. There will be even more vibrancy featuring preferred religions , sexual preference and approved political views .

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415 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 22 June 2019

  1. English Lass says:

    Planted neighbours with microphones in walls?? How funny that exact conversations have been recorded. Not muffled sounds but exact conversation. Boris destruction team in action. Look at the delighted tweets by some of our ‘payed for’ reporters.

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    • taffman says:

      Tomorrow is the third anniversary of the vote to leave referendum.
      We are still in the EU thanks to Mrs Chamberlain and the Tory MPs, despite all the promises.
      Vote and support UKIP and The Brexit Party.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Backlinks in case you missed something
        – Friday from 7pm page 6
        page 5 covered Friday from 8am
        A lot about the excessive hyping of a 2 minute thing man removing a protester v the virtual non-coverage of 44 grooming gang arrests.
        Meanwhile in May In his pre-trial JG said: “It’s not illegal to heckle an MP. All of this is wrong.”
        On Friday he was instantly removed from the room and rest of his trial (I think)..on the grounds he interrupts too much.

        page 4 covered Thursday from 2pm
        ..Nottingham : trial 4 black girls whose attacked eneded up in a Egyptian girl dying were given light non-custodial sentences

        Tip to see today’s comments on an old page
        Ctrl-F brings up a search box and then search on “June 22″etc
        Likewise searching a page before you post
        often saves you typing something in , cos you find someone has already mentioned it.

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      • NCBBC says:

        Vote Brexit party to gain our independence from the EU. Vote UKIP if you wish UK not to be a Sharia nation in the not too distant future.

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      • NCBBC says:

        Worse still, we will still be stuck with Rotten to the Core BBC.

        The BBC name though, is the nation’s property. It has to be thoroughly reorganised. First, reduce all salaries, except one that are technical/engineering and cleaning, by 70%.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Timing is all.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      TOADY Watch #2

      English Lass, pardon me for piggy-backing a TOADY Watch to your post but listening to the Toady Prog this a.m., I did note the smile in Robinson’s & Webb’s voices when talking about this.

      Bit of a giveaway, guys.

      Very obvious.

      Real pros would cover that up ….. unless they were so delighted that they found it impossible to do.

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    • Deborah says:

      I was going to comment about the timing of this Boris Johnson story. Coincidental, isn’t it? But Nick Robinson on Toady tells us that the neighbour who reported Boris has had a poster made saying he’d rather have Boris as a neighbour than as our Prime Minister. Sounds that the timing at least has been preplanned. Then Today has Robinson interviewing two women and twice when the lady supporting Boris and Brexit had the line dropped, and the coincidence of when she went off line and the validity of her argument shouldn’t be a surprise to regular readers here.

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      • StewGreen says:

        @Deborah said poster

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        • NCBBC says:

          We’d rather endure him as our neighbour rather then as our PM.

          What a lovely bunch of people. It seems they are going to be disappointed.

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          • tamimisledus says:

            But nevertheless they would rather have Boris as PM than Jeremy Corbyn as PM ……. or would they?

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    • smoogie7 says:

      High class Victorian houses with paper sheets as walls? I think that there must be a breach of the 1870s building act at play here. Perhaps the BBC should look at that instead?

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  2. English Lass says:

    And the funniest thing about all this, is that if they do manage to bash Boris out, they are all going to have to go for re-education lessons on how to pronounce the new Prime Minister’s name.

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  3. Vonbedda says:

    1 for the night-owls amongst us ….

    Just watching syfy …seen an advert for coop funeral planning. I swear they got Mrs May carrying a tea tray through all of it lol as some kind of jibe haha…

    Hilarious if you manage to catch it …

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  4. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.model-engineer.co.uk/forums/postings.asp?th=143059
    “Possible New Internet Scam to be Aware of.”
    BBC Scam, who would have believed it?

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  5. ScottishCalvin says:

    This week’s doodle. At least it’s not a Rory Stewart stitch up so this week I’m drinking the good stuff from the back of the cupboard.

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  6. Richard Pinder says:

    I wondered why that sixteen year old Swedish girl is regarded by the BBC as the second best scientific expert in the World after David Attenborough.

    This is because examination papers and published mark schemes show that marks are often only available for candidates who choose to parrot the sustainability agenda. A number of examination boards have repositories of past and example papers, together with examiners reports and these are revealing as to the emphasis given to global warming in exams. In exam questions the words carbon dioxide and global warming will always get a mark regardless of the question. The fact is that children’s ability to pass their exams and hence their future life prospects appears to depend on being able to demonstrate their climate change orthodoxy. Politicians seem to have given the nod to this process, effectively handing much of the curriculum to green activists. Theresa May has effectively introduced a policy of indoctrinating Primary School children to vote for the Green Party. No wonder the left wants to lower the voting age. This means that Tory politicians are being lobbied by school children going on strike, who have been indoctrinated by climate change programs supported by Members of Parliament, and funded indirectly by the government through a huge network of charities. A culturally Marxist Tory party taking sides with left-wing environmental activists fighting against scientists in our universities. University administrators barring scientists but not environmental activists from scientific debates on University property. Political and Environmentalist indoctrination has now replaced all but the hardest Maths exams. Under this system, people like Richard Pinder get zero out of ten and people like Greta Thunberg get ten out of ten and a job with the BBC as one of its best scientific advisors or correspondents.

    This system replaces the old fashioned system where high levels of intelligence lead to people getting good qualifications, with a system were people with a high level tendency for robotic conformity and political consensus getting good qualifications. This would explain the conflict between Mensa members, Brexiteers, Jews and Piers Corbyn on one side, and the BBC, Remainers, Islam and Jeremy Corbyn on the other side.

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      The left say they value diversity yet seem to be blind to the phenomomen of Groupthink –

      “Groupthink is a psychological phenomenon that occurs within a group of people in which the desire for harmony or conformity in the group results in an irrational or dysfunctional decision-making outcome. Group members try to minimize conflict and reach a consensus decision without critical evaluation of alternative viewpoints by actively suppressing dissenting viewpoints, and by isolating themselves from outside influences.” (wiki)

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    • JimS says:

      Greta Thunberg is a brat. Her bad behaviour has been rewarded so her behaviour gets worse.

      Some would blame the parents but now the parents are being rewarded for their brats behaviour so they have no reason to behave better either.

      All three children should be ignored until such time as they behave properly. Where is super-nanny when we need her?

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      • Guest Who says:

        Don’t know if she is or not. But indulging a teen at this level seldom works out well down the line, even without mental issues already in the mix.

        Wonder if Casa Thunberg has nosey neighbours with parabolic mikes when it is time for bed?

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      • vesnadog says:

        Jim,

        “Greta Thunberg is a brat. Her bad behaviour has been rewarded so her behaviour gets worse.”

        If she keeps coming to London like she does I wouldn’t be surprised if one night we see her (new stud in tongue/nose) clubbing-it with our Lilly A, as Lilly is as qualified as she is about world poverty and the awful pain that mother earth feels just now more painful that the poorest people on earth.

        I bet if we keep very quite long enough we may just about hear all those wealthy Kensington/Islington/Chelsea/ celebs, pop stars, anarchists, squatters, weed producers and the like wailing and crying for their mother.

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    • G says:

      Richard,
      ‘It’s all a reet mess’ I’d say but add, it’s getting messier by the day.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        It is becoming obvious, G, that no-one in Parliament and at the BBC has the slightest idea in a carbon-based world what ‘0’, zero, nil, zilch, nada, means, let alone ‘Net Zero’, for all human activity on earth.

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  7. Celtic_Mist says:

    The BBC’s strategy for getting around their ‘problem’ of impartiality is to selectively report by quoting other media, political and academic sources as it pleases them.

    The giveaway though is their frequent referencing of the Guardian as in last night’s News at Ten when they wanted to smear the Tories.

    The Guardian has poor circulation figures but it receives huge amplification from the (used to be) trusted BBC

    https://www.pressgazette.co.uk/national-newspaper-abcs-mail-titles-see-year-on-year-circulation-lift-as-bulk-sales-distortion-ends/

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      Even the Telegraph which is supposed to be right leaning is actually ‘left’ because the whole political establishment has moved to the left.

      Many now have to turn to eg Breitbart to find sentiment that they can identify with –

      https://www.breitbart.com/europe/

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    • smoogie7 says:

      The Guardian seems to be the BBC’s newsletter. I have lost count of the time that both said exactly the same thing as the other and 10 times out of ten, both are wrong.

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  8. Celtic_Mist says:

    @jamesDelingpole retweeted –

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    • JimS says:

      “And that’s a hill I’m prepared to die on”

      And many a man has died on many a hill to protect many a Jill.

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  9. Celtic_Mist says:

    For what it’s worth – not –
    /
    Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Public inquiry into the bias in the BBC”.

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/234797

    The debate is scheduled for 15 July 2019.

    Once the debate has happened, we’ll email you a video and transcript.

    Thanks,
    The Petitions team
    UK Government and Parliament
    /

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      And –
      /
      Parliament is going to debate the petition you signed – “Abolish the BBC television license.”.

      https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/235653

      The debate is scheduled for 15 July 2019.

      Once the debate has happened, we’ll email you a video and transcript.

      Thanks,
      The Petitions team
      UK Government and Parliament
      /

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      • theisland says:

        No doubt these petition ‘debates’ will be combined with MP David Amess’ call for a debate on the future of the bBC link posted by Heyho on p. 6 of previous thread.

        We know what the result will be – a few tut-tuts and the usual conclusion that the bBC is a greatly loved national treasure and that at any rate Ofcom is closely monitoring it.

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        • Celtic_Mist says:

          Oops there’s another one – Perhaps the ‘perfect storm!

          It’s with great pleasure that I finally write to you. There was a bug in the system last week preventing me to log in (and therefore sending anything). A lot of things have happened since!

          But first of all, welcome to the new 33,000 people who joined us in the past 6 months. As of today, we now have 333,650 supporters.

          As usual at this time of the year, I compiled FOI results and made a TV licence report. In a nutshell, nearly 140,000 people were prosecuted last year, 72 % of them being women. Over 9,000 people suffered the ordeal needlessly as have been found not guilty. That represent 7% of all cases. 65 people had been jailed for TV licence fine default (of which 40 were women). The five people jailed in England were put behind bars for an average of 19 days. My complete report can be read on my blog here https://endbbclicencefee.wordpress.com/2019/06/13/foi-2018-tv-licence-statistics/ and stats for 2017 are also available for comparison here https://endbbclicencefee.wordpress.com/2019/06/13/foi-2017-tv-licence-stats/

          These stats were picked up by Katherine Rushton from the Daily Mail. Her story made it to page 7 and it had a caricature commissioned for it, picturing D-Day veterans parachuting in front of the BBC’s building to protest about the decision to scrap the free TV licence. The article was part of double spread, the other article highlighting the BBC’S £2bn pension hypocrisy. You can read how elderly women and vulnerable groups such as the disabled and dementia sufferers will be the worst hit by BBC’s decision to withdraw free licences for pensioners if you click here: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7134907/Elderly-women-worst-hit-BBCs-decision-withdraw-free-licences-figures-reveal.html?fbclid=IwAR16ZaE9wDHVQXNCYY_PniS_uJrVs8lAnSGuCieNGiKHa7N9dfaENqHllZs

          The decision to scrap the free TV licences to 3.7 million people over 75, after the BBC profited from the increased TV licence fee for two years (which was supposed to be used to offset this new burden) was not a popular decision to say the least. I’m sure you’ve heard the furore, as it was mentioned in the Telegraph, the Express, the Daily record, the Scotsman, Metro, the Mirror, and it was on inews.co.uk and on moneysavingexperts.com and probably a few more that I missed. Everyone had something to say about it, including many MPs. If you would like to read their comments, click here https://wp.me/p68j3S-jz

          All this made TV licence related petitions mushroom everywhere. I urge you to sign them all. And remember that this petition is there for the long run (whereas petitions on the official government website only run for 6 months). We are here to stay and remind the BBC that this way of funding the TV licence fee is not acceptable.

          By the way, thank you again for your support. Don’t forget to share the word with your friends!

          Caroline Levesque-Bartlett

          If you want to keep in touch, I’m on twitter as @lalionneUK

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Celtic
            Do you know – are these stats true ?

            I like the idea of people being locked up for no tv licence / non payment of the fine and sent to prison where they can watch TV without a licence ……

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            • Celtic_Mist says:

              Fed, I don’t know how they get their stats..

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              • Fedup2 says:

                Thanks Celtic – I was talking to my next door neighbour – who is 94 . She is too proud to claim ‘pensioner credits ‘ so will pay the TV licence out of her state pension .

                The BBC is so distant from the lives ordinary people – who cannot claim expenses of avoid taxes through ‘production ‘ companies that they will lose any residual ‘good will ‘ from those who still regard it as ‘aunty’ .

                Aunty died a long time ago .

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      • StewGreen says:

        Yep, 15th July 2019 a Monday
        the HoC will debate the petition
        ‘Public inquiry into the bias in the BBC’
        https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/234797

        Of course we expect a whitewash or stitchup etc.

        I paraphrase the official response “It’s up to Ofcom, not us”

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  10. Guest Who says:

    It’s in their nature 🦂

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    • G says:

      GW,
      5% of a small number is less that 5% of a bigger number.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        G, would that be eleventy million more policemen of five and a half percentages?

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        • G says:

          Up2,
          Oh! you’ve obtained one of those Abbott calculators have you?

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          • Up2snuff says:

            G, Oi! Have I been bugged, too? What is that strange hole in the wall? Are you watching me with a camera?!!!

            I just thought I’d run the ‘proverbial slide rule’ over your numbers – you know me, enquiring, investigative, sort. OK, I own up. The batteries were flat (probably made by Tesla) in my solar powered calculator so I used a vintage Ab-bott-acus that my old granny left me in her will.

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      • tamimisledus says:

        Absolutely right. And it’s amazing how many (otherwise intelligent) people fail to recognise it.
        Whenever I hear the (all too often) (ab)use of percentages on key issues, my analytical faculities go into overdrive.
        It is closely related to the (ab)use of averages which can often minimise the importance of the “outliers”.
        [One of the worst examples can be seen in some analyses of the contributions made by immigrants. By averaging out, it seems that all immigrants make a contribution, ….]
        The problem is even worse when the groups being compared have a different make up, for example the change in population makeup over the last 30 years, or the response to immigration in different areas of the country, or (related) the success of the LibDems in London which has the greatest concentration of EU migrants who were allowed to vote in the European elections.

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  11. Beeb Brother says:

    Beeb leading bulletins with the tabloid garbage that a couple had an argument! That the Police were called seems to confer some legitimacy on their concerns but the neighbour was probably politically motivated; maybe he wanted to cause a stench and knew the liberal media would help spread the muck.

    Of course there is zero journalistic rigour of trying to find out exactly what happened; key to me is what person called the Police as I can imagine Johnson has a lot of enemies. The Police are often called when they are not needed. A Friday evening argument with a partner when you’ve both had a drink and a very hard week sounds pretty standard to me.

    “Apparently she told him to get out.”

    Apparently? Who said this, an enemy of Johnson? ‘Apparently’ is code for ‘stuff we probably made up to fit our agenda.’

    Of course none of these vital questions concern the trashy BBC. They just want a juicy, salacious narrative and will run with it regardless. If facts come out later which downplay the event they will be ignored or buried: the important thing is to create a stench about Johnson which they have indeed done. Even if some of the facts are hazy it’s clear Johnson is no saint and the BBC love nothing more than character assassination of political enemies. Why bother with arguments when you can just throw mud? A ‘national treasure’ with 20,000 staff and £5 billion annual income ought to be above this but sadly it’s all they ever seem to do.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Questions are being asked. Conveniently, elsewhere now.

      https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/06/the-questions-the-bbc-must-answer-about-abdullah-in-bristol/

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    • Englands Dreaming says:

      The MSM have now fully contracted Boris Derangement Syndrome. But it no longer matters the vast majority of the general public can see through this. The Tory member’s are not going to vote for Hunt. The establishment are getting frantic; the only way to stop him is to try to undermine his character and try to force him to stand down.

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      • Not Gwent says:

        It’s almost as if the puritanical media wanted Boris hounded out so as to saddle Conservative MPs with a leader only 1/4 of them voted for?

        Watching State Broadcaster this morning the sour faced London correspondent reporting on The Guardian recording should get a BAFTA for her portrail of indignation.

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        • Celtic_Mist says:

          Not G, The sour face is a trade mark of the BBC News. Just realised that it was ‘timed’ to happen over the W/E for maximum impact.

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  12. Not Gwent says:

    Another victory is recorded for the Greens as State Broadcaster gleefully announces cuts in speed limits on major roads in Wales.

    Farage was mocked when he complained about immigration choking the M4 to a standstill a couple of years back. What was the correct thing to think – that only the indigenous population of Wales were ever to use motorised transport?

    The mandatory targets politicians set their successors years ago impact this generation. Speed restrictions are just the start. The Green ratchet only tightens one way and State Broadcaster helps with every turn.

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    • Old Goat says:

      They tried that here in France recently, in a most confusing way, but thanks to the gilets jaunes, and others, this summer they are cancelling the idea and restoring the old national speed limit of 90 KPH. Speed cameras were wrecked, and replacing them, and switching all the signs back to what they were, having already spent millions on changing them in the first place, is going to cost millions more.

      Protests often work – shame the British populace haven’t cottoned on to that.

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      • Doublethinker says:

        The left in the UK have been very effective with their protests which are looked on with indulgence by the authorities. Those same authorities stamp on any protest which may be even a little bit right of centre or about something they want kept under wraps. If Brexit is not delivered then the ordinary Brits could take a leaf out of the civil disobedience book of the French as they see their democratic choice ignored by the liberal establishment.

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  13. tarien says:

    If T May didn’t require the votes of 160,000 conservative members from become Prime Minister, why is it necessary now ? If because of some fracarse Boris Johnson has had with his girlfriend has the effect of his not being voted PM its a mad system and we shall end up with a Reaminer PM once again. The MP’s voted unanimously for Johnson surely that should be the end of the situation. How daft do we have to be in this country to use some common sense?

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    • theisland says:

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  14. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1

    A Naughtie at the Opera

    The dreaded James Naughtie, quite often a switch off moment here, gets his regular Saturday TOADY overtime earnings boost by talking about a Cardiff Competition for budding opera singers. He talks to a selection of contributors including the great grand Dame Kiri but amazingly the BBC, as ever, manage to find an American-sounding woman with quite a high (but not squeaky) register voice to offer her viewpoint.

    How do they do that?

    No French, Italian, Hungarian, Polish even, singers or opera experts available, BBC?

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  15. Stevie m says:

    Hold the front page
    Boris Johnson once ate an after eight mint at half past seven tut tut

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  16. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #3

    Allison Pearson, brave woman, tries to put the BBC right on this strange, peculiar, Bojo ‘domestic incident’.

    Rick Nobinson is having none of it.

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    • Jeff says:

      Up2snuff, why on earth are you still listening to the appalling Today prog’? It’s just an endless drip feed of puerile PC propaganda.
      Not that long ago I was also an avid listener. I woke up to the bloody thing every morning. It’s really no good for the blood pressure. I started the day in a bad mood, shouting insults at the radio. It’s not healthy.
      Do yourself a favour. Saturday morning, Classic FM, Alan Titchmarsh. Perfect. We’ve had Chopin, Mozart and a smidgen of Vaughan Williams. AT also gives us a gardening tip.
      A much more pleasant way to start the weekend!

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Jeff, like Perkins (Allison Pearson) I do it so you do not have to. Noble self-sacrifice!
        🙂

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        • Fedup2 says:

          I remember hearing somewhere that the great Peter Cook became ashamed of this sketch because someone told him that real people – kids – had died so he could take the pee out of them….

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Fed, haven’t heard that one. But, if you have looked at any bit of military history but especially WW1 and WW2, that sketch also had a horrible ring of truth to it and is a reminder of many noble sacrifices.

            The much maligned ACM Sir Arthur Harris would have seen the statistics coming across his desk daily. Young lads, often straight out of school, were trained and squashed into a Lancaster and sent to bomb targets at night. They knew what they were facing and considered themselves lucky, fortunate, to do 20 ‘tours’ and then go on a long leave.

            Many did not live that long.

            How Harris managed to keep going without becoming broken by the burden is something to consider, too.

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            • Zelazek says:

              Up2snuff – a friend of my father’s flew in bombing missions in WW2. After miraculously surviving a tour of 30 operations, he was given the option of a cushy post somewhere. Instead, he volunteered for another tour of 30 operations, which, even more miraculously, he again survived. As a child I regarded him as a quietly humorous and unassuming man. Only in later life did I begin to see him as one of the heroes to whom I owe my present liberty and freedom.

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              • Fedup2 says:

                Looking through the official bomber command binders of dead crews from 1939 to 1945 is sobering in itself . 38000 dead . I shalt forget that and nor should Blighty .

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      • Old Goat says:

        I agree wholeheartedly with that, Jeff, – all of it, though I have reservations about Classic FM, especially during the week, where the morning offerings are by puerile, smarmy and patronising “presenters”, and the whole shebang is loaded with stupid advertisements, particularly those which tell us that children want to live in a world with polar bears, and no CO2. I don’t think such a world is possible…

        …add to that the BBC-style fake news from Global, and it isn’t quite so attractive.

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        • Helen Richardson says:

          If you don’t like Classic FM, and I think the adverts have always been irritating, there are alternatives on internet radio:

          https://www.internet-radio.com/stations/classical/

          If any BBC employees are reading this and find my choice of words confusing, you might find the following definition helpful:

          alternative
          noun [ C ]
          uk ​ /ɒlˈtɜː.nə.tɪv/ us ​ /ɑːlˈtɝː.nə.t̬ɪv/

          B2 something that is different from something else, especially from what is usual, and offering the possibility of choice:
          an alternative to coffee
          There must be an alternative to people sleeping on the streets.
          I’m afraid I have no alternative but to ask you to leave (= that is what I have to do).

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          • Foscari says:

            Helen-It’s difficult to put in a three minute segment of Bruckner
            on Classic FM . Perhaps the magnificent codas of the Bruckner 3 finale
            or the first movement coda of the sixth being the exceptions. I gave
            up on Classic FM about 7 years ago. I sent them an E Mail once
            about the lack of Bruckner and they told me that they often play
            his violin concerto (Bruch).

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            • Helen Richardson says:

              I don’t think Bruckner produced a lot of film music either.

              I quite like Burt Bacharach’s Goldberg Variations though.

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              • Fedup2 says:

                Scala is a new online only station – it sounds a bit R3 which isn’t too bad -unless they start doing African bongo bongo stuff to tick black boxes ..

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2, jeff has a point – why are you still listening too it ? I gave up yesterday. I never listen to it on Sunday either .

        Happily coming across Londonistan on the Piccadilly line from Heathrow to the murderous East last night ( life in your hands job ) , and after hearing vaguely about Bojo s private life issue –

        I thought – why not make all 658 MPs wear body cameras which can’t be switched off and then have the BBC stream then all live on their Parliament channel ? The Speaker can have his own one – and maybe his wife too.

        At least it a time of little news – pending Iranian wars , putin under pressure to quit – the MSM can push BoJo into domestic breakup with an ever so glad Biased police force getting him on bail for harassment or some non – hate crime . At the end he can share a cell with Mark Field – who obviously should have sat there and taken it while some protestors got out their knives or detonated their suicide vests …..

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed, & Jeff too, I think I may give up at some point. There are rumours that Beeboids do look at sites like these. If we on here are not listening to them and not critiquing what we hear from them, what will they learn? Recently, I have switched off in a household protest at an item. I then sometimes forget to switch back on for the rest of the programme. BBC’s loss … probably.

          When the ‘give up’ point is reached, where will I go for news programming via radio? There really are not many competitors to the BBC available to me.

          I must get around to do a suggestion list for things that we could do to the site here, maybe as an update. A spot of re-decoration, perhaps? One would be a list of non-BBC radio stations that B-BBC registered posters have found useful.

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          • Fedup2 says:

            Up2
            It is the monopoly position which the state broadcaster hold which stops and question of it changing.

            I’m sure that BoJo has let thr need for the BBC to be changed known to their hierarchy so like any mafia organisation / feds they are out to get him .

            They will say ( ha) that the last thing they need is another Right Wing populist

            ( eg huge numbers of alien foreigners are a threat to us and are more trouble than they are worth ).

            A populist being some one who listens to the common sense majority , tells them they are right and then puts their views into practice .

            The opposite of course being an unpopulist – such as the current traitor parliament and its MSM supporters ..

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Fed, yes – that monopoly – I am increasingly becoming resentful of that and wonder whether the digital age provides a great opportunity to break it.

              You may have an explanation there of why they do not like and attack Bojo. I add that the BBC fear the chance of a revived Conservative Party with a Parliamentary majority that Bojo might just deliver. Then, their hope of a soft-Labour Party led by Starmer or Benn would be put back at least five years. The Beeb are in a cleft stick. Corbyn & McDonnell would provide lots of cash for the Social spending the Beeb love, they would have nothing to complain about, and Labour would be doing it with the money and wealth of high-paid Beeboids. Alternatively, they get Bojo – and maybe – we get Brexit.

              On the subject of listening to BBC News and TOADY – and the BBC generally – here is a little weekend diversion:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AGDt2skie84

              To all B-BBCers , not just Fed, see if you can spot the lines in the lyrics apposite to our discussion and our chief complaints about the BBC. No prizes but there are at least three …
              …. as well as an achingly beautiful bass line to listen to.

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          • Jagman84 says:

            I think that the BBC considered the possibility of the big turn-off on their national radio channels and decided to seed the commercial sector with the likes of Matt ‘comment isn’t’ Frei and Shillelagh Fogarty.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Jeff, I forgot to say I’m not fond of listening to Titchmarsh but I do have a slightly sneaking admiration for the way he has leveraged his BBC Licence Fee funded career to become, I guess, a multi-millionaire.

        These days, I can be my own DJ but I wonder how long for, the way the BBC attack the ‘new’ media.

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  17. Not Gwent says:

    Newswatch – Interesting that State Broadcaster didn’t even put up a defence of their flagship leaders debate for their flagship ‘feedback’ TV show (instead falling back on putting up and reading a statement).

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  18. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #4

    Client Earth has struck gold with Gilmour. He has sold his guitar collection and handed over £17million to a bunch of lawyers.

    Gullible Gilmour.

    He opens his mouth and says he is stupid. “I’m not a scientist but the world is in danger from Climate Change.” Er, Dave, open your eyes. How long have you been alive? How long did your parents live? How long did your grandparents live? Great-grandparents? Great-great-grandparents? What was the population then? Through the successive generations? Now?

    That ol’ Climate Change is not so bad after all, eh?

    Doubly Gullible Dave Gilmour.

    Giving money to a bunch of lawyers. Lawyers are experts at burning money! That £17 million will be gone in a flash with nothing much to show for it. I find myself wondering whether the lawyers all work for this charity pro bono or whether they draw salaries or fees? I think we should be told.

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    • theisland says:

      Lawyers you say?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        ti, I have to say, on the other side of the Atlantic, I am in favour of long past, legally fought, conservation work done by lawyers and lawyer politicians (de rigueur for the USofA). The same would be true here, in the UK, more through our democratic processes although our Parliaments tend to be stuffed with far too many lawyers and not enough other career experiences. Creation of National Parks and Sites of Special Scientific Interest? I’m all in favour.

        Quite how you will get to visit the SSSI s and National Parks with a Net Zero Carbon policy in place, as a small number of scientists, let alone as masses of the public on a UK Bank Holiday, is yet to be explained by the Starmers of our Parliament.

        But the present bunch of politicians in the UK do not have a clue what to do with this latest CO2 AGW/CC/C-E craze – which is absolute madness – and it is not going to end well.

        In fact, I cannot see an end to it except via a lengthy major world financial crash and its aftermath (some may die, many millions will be horribly disadvantaged) or a mini-Ice Age (hundreds of thousands will die) or a major war or two (hundreds of thousands will die) or maybe a human-induced virus (hundreds of thousands will die) waking everyone up.

        Starmer, I fear, is bandwagon jumping on, career for the advancement-of.

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      • JimS says:

        Wow! The experience of ONE week shows that flash floods are becoming more frequent. Across the world the ice caps are melting! How many ice caps are there? Do we have any in this country? Did Greta’s dog steal her homework and Starmer stick the bits together to make up an article?

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Gilmour is indeed a dope. He even brought up the thoroughly discredited claim that “97% of scientists” believe in AGW.

      It’s his money to waste, but I feel very sorry for the genuine charities which could have benefitted from the £17 million, not that the BBC would have been interested.

      Still, I am sure that the lawyer from “Client Earth” will enjoy spending Gilmour’s money. He seems to think he can legal his way into stopping sovereign states from using coal power to produce electricity. That might work in the West, but I doubt he will have much joy in Asia. Still, he’ll have fun trying. Well paid fun.

      I doubt the £17 million will last very long.

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  19. Doobster78 says:

    BBC weather at 8.20am. Matt Taylor tells us it could possibly get very hot in some areas of the UK next week. Amazing, hot in summer hey !!!!

    Nagga pipes up, she can’t help herself. Tells Matt that when we have thundery showers now, they SEEM to be heavier than in the past.

    Back to weatherman, next sentence starts, within 5 seconds, there they are, the BBC ‘s favourite words …CLIMATE CHANGE !!!!!!!!

    Off switch hit. One hot day and the BBC are blaming climate change. RELENTLESS PROPAGANDA !!!!!!!!!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Doobs, you have reminded me …

      TOADY Watch #5

      The BBC report an apparent increase in wildfires in the UK(?) or England(?) but after some statistics that shows an amazing increase this year over recent prior years no questions are asked whatsoever.

      Those of us listeners with a working if ageing memory recall that at least one person has been arrested and charged with arson (causing a wildfire) this year.

      BBC bias by omission.

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        U2s
        “at least one person has been arrested and charged with arson (causing a wildfire) this year”

        I do not know where these arsonists get the energy to start fires, after a hard night spent gang raping white children I would have thought they would need a rest.

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    • Old Goat says:

      We have dire warnings of a heatwave in France, next week – temperatures up to 40 degrees C. They are taking it rather seriously…

         11 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        OG, quite right to be careful. I do recall that some elderly people died in France during the recent western Europe wide heatwave, was it in 2003? I think they numbered four. Back then, the UK did not have quite such a hot time.

        Sadly, last year we had some deaths during that glorious summer and autumn. Even more sadly, the BBC (and no doubt others) exploited those deaths without any enquiries as to the event specifics. Many appeared to involve water whether triggered, careless, foolish or dangerous-use thereof.

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    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      “The polar cap is melting, the rainforest is dying, the sea is being poisoned….and I haven’t had a bit for months!” 😆

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    • LynetteO says:

      Before the heavy rain item i heard on the World service an interview with a researcher of two thousand year old north American trees.Their bore samples were being analysed . Just as the researcher was explaining that periods of heavy rain and periods of drought had occurred many times over the centuries the interviewer curtailed the interview, rather suddenly I thought . I wonder why?

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  20. fakenewswatcher says:

    I awoke to catch the last few minutes of Toady, but -on reaching for the off switch- thought it sounded rather enjoyable, so didn’t.
    Was that Justin Webb, desperately, nay frantically, trying to coax three youngsters (two councillors?) into saying nasty personal stuff about Boris?
    Despite many attempts, unsuccessfully? They wouldn’t do his character assassination bit?
    Was it then Grieve, who had to be consulted to say how character was important, but wouldn’t give a little more “Isn’t Boris a …” either?
    Tsk ,Tsk. Looks like Toady intimidation tactics aren’t working.
    After yesterdays ‘get Bojo/Tories’ excesses, sounds like Webb’s weekend has got off to a bad start….
    Chuckle. Could we actually be in for a few weeks of sober and analytical political discussion? Twould be a welcome miracle…

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    • Up2snuff says:

      fnw, for me the notable thing was that the young-sounding male Conservative Councillor or Party member had fallen hook, line and sinker, for the old Tory (Sajid Javid) policy meme, ‘if you cut taxes you get more in’.

      I was amazed at:
      1. the gullibility of said youth,
      2. his education level and whether he would attack Corbyn & McDonnell for their ‘magic money tree’, and,
      3. whether he pays for a TV Licence and he never asks why the BBC do not ever reduce the price?

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      • JimS says:

        See the Laffer Curve

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Jim, I know all about the Laffer curve. Do you basically believe it?

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          • Jagman84 says:

            If you remove a tax completely, you will undoubtedly get zero money coming in. Depending on the % level a particular rate is set, it is possible to reduce the % rate but achieve a higher overall tax income. This is invariably true for higher rate taxpayers who often have the opportunity to leave a country altogether, if rates become too onerous.

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            • Helen Richardson says:

              To suggest otherwise is to believe that tax rates can never influence behaviour. If not, why for instance are VAT rates manipulated to encourage this and discourage that?

              If we end up with McDonnell as Chancellor, we’ll soon find out.

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              • Up2snuff says:

                Can I direct you all to the story of how the Laffer Curve, a piece of ‘cod economics’, came about (if you can find it on line – if not I’ll have to tell you) and how it was disproved during the 1980s. Secondly, consider this, a steady state and a cut in the top rate of Income Tax. Do you get more? Or less?

                Also search on-line for the writings of John Whiting on the subject of ‘Fiscal Drag’. No, that’s nothing to do with LGBTiQWERTY. It is currently quite topical for another reason. 😉

                Helen, 1. is not VAT a rather different tax to Income Tax? and, 2. can you tell me how often (even within the EU restrictive banding for it) VAT was varied 1980-2010, say, or even 2010-2019?

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                • Helen Richardson says:

                  Nobody is saying that a cut in tax invariably increases the Revenue collected in all situations, but I am surprised that you can reject any notion of higher taxes having a disincentive effect where work becomes less worthwhile and substitution is possible.

                  A tax increase will reduce people’s real income and in some circumstances they will work longer to achieve the same income – the “income effect” but this will not always be possible as there are only 24 hours in the day.

                  And lastly, believe it or not I have heard of fiscal drag, so don’t be so damn patronising.

                     4 likes

                  • Annunaki says:

                    Fiscal drag ??? is this a BBC attempt to promote tranvestite economists?

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                    • Annunaki says:

                      Pots of capital at the end of the rainbow economics

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                    • Up2snuff says:

                      Annu, I beat you to that one I’m afraid.

                      Fiscal drag is the cause of the apparent tax take increase when you cut rates. Unfortunately, it doesn’t actually provide more effective money to spend. It also provides an incentive and temptation for Chancellors and governments to maintain inflation at excessive levels when in modern, post-modern and post-post-modern economies you should really always be enjoying slight deflation or negative inflation, call it what you will.

                      Interestingly, it is the problem of fiscal drag that Bojo was attempting to address with his tax cut for the middle rate band. There was an excellent chart put up somewhere on the Guido web-site that showed what happens with marginal rates of tax when even with minute pay rises, say, of the order of 1.5% and 2.5%, people not thought to be in the high earner bracket had got sucked in to some horrible marginal tax rate situations.

                      That’s the problem when Chancellors take their eye off the ball and do not update the fiscal regime and, more importantly, never have any vision to reform it.

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                  • Up2snuff says:

                    Helen, you can probably have a flat rate Income Tax & CGT, and high earners and the wealthy would still object. After all you have the evidence before you; a very benign UK Income mid/higher rate Tax and Capital Gains Tax regime since the late 1980s, compared to what went before, yet high earners & the wealthy (some at the BBC) went for tax avoidance schemes. Remember the Panama Papers? Mossack Fonseca?

                    The other modern economic principle that was disproved in the 1980s, at least in a high retail/low manufacturing, high social support economy such as that of the UK, was that wealth would trickle down to the lower earners through increased employment and better earnings prospects in the jobs the wealthy & high earners would create in a benign tax regime built just for them. Didn’t happen.

                    It is true, that the disincentive to work long hours, take risks, be committed to a business (hah hah, remember the IPOs!) might be dented by taxation but look at the evidence from 2007-2009, and the decade before 2007, to see how well that can all turn out for everyone.

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          • Doublethinker says:

            It’s been proven true several times and the flip side of it , raising tax levels reduces the tax take , has also been proven to be true.

               12 likes

            • Up2snuff says:

              Double, I think you will find it has been disproved and thoroughly debunked.

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  21. theisland says:

    Today’s Brexit Central email:

    Yesterday morning the Governor of the Bank of England Mark Carney told Radio 4 Today’s John Humphrys that it wouldn’t be possible to use ‘GATT 24’ to keep zero tariffs with the EU without first striking a deal. Boris Johnson had claimed it would be possible to do this under the ‘General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade’ whilst speaking at the BBC’s leadership debate on Tuesday.

    Confused? Then read this excellent explainer by Iain Duncan Smith MP and outgoing Tory MEP David Campbell Bannerman.

    https://brexitcentral.com/the-facts-about-gatt-article-24-and-how-it-can-deliver-a-clean-managed-brexit-by-31st-october/

    The truth is, you do need a ‘deal’ with the EU to get zero tariffs – but not a Withdrawal Agreement or anything like it. It’s a separate deal done under WTO rules, could be written on the back of an envelope, and it’s not true that the EU would never agree to it – because Duncan Smith has spoken to Michel Barnier about it himself.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      ti, Professor Patrick Minford is also very good on the subject of trade and tariffs.

      He tried to teach Parliament about them (via evidence to a Special Committee) as well as the BBC in the few appearances he had before the EU Referendum on (TV, I assume and) Radio 4 programmes and also on the one – I think – R4 appearance that I have heard since. Funny that he is not invited on much now.

      I wonder why?

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  22. vlad says:

    The beeb must think it’s Christmas – 2 stories that can be twisted into ‘Tory MPs attack women’ in as many days!

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  23. upandatem says:

    What have I seen on TV over breakfast this morning? Well, those dullards at the BBC really are in ‘Stop Boris’ mode. Reporting on an argument he might or might not have had with his partner, and things he/she might or might not have said to each other. All information gleaned from their preferred news source, The Guardian. Top quality reporting, reinforcing the the BBC’s reputation for high quality news coverage. Also, Elton Hercules John, real name Reginald Kenneth Dwight, being awarded the Legion d’Honneur, by the French president, for simply being a homosexual. Then I turned to ITV and caught some woman called Sara Cox talking to a couple of over-dressed queens about British drag, and saying how excited she is by it all. So proud to be British.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      upandatem- noticed that bit about Elton Hercules John, real name Reginald Kenneth Dwight…(isn’t Macron vomit-inducing?)
      Well, we shall have to do it on this site, to keep up with the MSM obsession with supplying the real name of at least one person for whom they’ve been so diligent: provide real names.
      So, let’s begin: Stalin: Jodeph Vissaronovich Dugashvili
      Lenin: Vladimir Ilyich Ulyanov
      Adolf Hitler: Adolf Schicklgruber.
      I do hope the beeb/MSM supply us with these details whenever they mention these people, just for the sake of completeness and consistency. Let’s write in and ask ’em to and explain why…
      Are we able to find out what Boris’ real name is? Is Jeremy Hunt really Jeremy Hunt?

         25 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        And, following an earlier extremely bright post, Dave is in fact Rodney!

        I thought it right to put the record straight, once and for all!

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  24. smoogie7 says:

    Well I have contacted the Guardian asking for the footage of Johnson ‘having a row with his girlfriend’ so we can put it all behind us.

    In other words if they fail to come up with anything then we can just right this off as a badly orchestrated smear.

    As for the BBC, they are of the same breed. Shame on them as well!

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  25. Helen Richardson says:

    Made a cup of tea and switched on the TV this morning. Happened to be tuned to SKY. Two black presenters talking about a scheme to help “underprivileged” black youth by introducing them to polo at Windsor. We’re told on a regular basis that white, male working class youth is the most underperforming group, but nothing for them, and no ponies for girls in Rotherham either. Still, polo should work wonders in Brixton.

    Changed to BBC. Something about Windrush. Returned to kitchen to get some cereal. On my return, the BBC sofa monkeys were interviewing some woman in a hijab.

    Turned off.

    It never ends.

       61 likes

    • Rich says:

      I cancelled our licence last night and received the direct debit cancellation email about an hour after I let them know.

      Not quite sure how it works but apparently our licence covered us up to December 2019, so I’ll see if we’re eligible for a refund. My father cancelled his about a month ago and got around £70 back.

      We, a family of two adults, three girls of 11,12 and 14, haven’t knowingly watched or listened to any live BBC output since shortly after Christmas. None of us miss it in the slightest as we all use YouTube, Amazon Prime and Netflix, the girls mainly on their tablets or phones, often with friends. We are all much more discerning and selective in our viewing and are watching a far wider and varied range of programmes.

      The BBC offer me and my family nothing of value.

         58 likes

      • theleftwilleatitself says:

        Well done Rich. We cancelled ours back in April and got a small refund. You should get substantially more if you had subscribed until December.
        Congratulations and welcome to the club 🎉

           29 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Rich ,
        Nice to hear – I might go down the the Netflix road myself .for various complex reasons I have not paid the BBC any money for over Ten Years . I take great pride in that . I’ve been out of UK for a bit as I have an alternative home or two overseas – when I came back I had two nice letters telling me I’m due a visit from capita people .
        I never buy news papers – I wonder why people actually do – apart from ritual .

        I’d like to see the chart where the number of former licence payers not doing so makes the BBC in its current firm unviable . I really hope it is soon ….

        Addendum – I checked – on the TV licencing site that there are 25 million , 8 hundred thousand licences – so if they are losing 800 000 a year its going to take a while for the BBC to bleed out . I hope I’m about to see it ….

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  26. Not Gwent says:

    Newswatch II

    In one of the read out statements a State Broadcaster spokesperson wrote that people can’t expect politicians to be questioned only by those who agreed with them.

    This is fair comment though as viewers we should be told a bit more about the questioners. For example were they lawyers for the Labour Party; or when their momentarily hidden social media account causes the questioner shame and betrays hypocrisy.

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  27. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News (Headline):

    “”Boris Johnson: Police called to Tory leadership contender’s home””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-48721211

    BBC Online News: (Front Page)

    “”Trump dismisses E. Jean Carroll rape allegation as ‘fiction’ “”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48727972

    Both Donald and Trump are hated by the BBC/Left.

    The Boris story is at best a storm in a tea-cup and will not change public opinion. It will however change public opinion as regards the BBC.

    The Donald story dates back to 1996 in a department store and coincides with a book release.

    Both events also coincide with an upcoming election concerning the BBC figures of hate.

    Shame on the BBC.

    How about BBC Panorama investigating May and how she deceived the UK that she was secretly negotiating ‘Brexit-Means-Brexit’? How could a Remainer be left in charge of the negotiations? Note how she will do her best as an MP to now derail Brexit.

    May needs to be investigated on behalf of the 17 million who voted for Brexit.

       42 likes

    • smoogie7 says:

      The more that the BBC turn Johnson into Trump then the more popular he becomes. Some people in this country are crying out for our own Trump like figure and we could well be getting him soon.

      Looking forward to the BBC meltdown that shall take place when Johnson enters Number 10. At least he will have less chance of having nosy neighbors trying to record him

         42 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Dover, “The Donald story dates back to 1996 in a department store and coincides with a book release.”

        Now, there’s a surprise!

        Funny, I thought. I thought, funny.

        This: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48718038
        appears to coincide with a film series release. The film is, entirely coincidentally, an Amazon and BBC co-production.

        Now, there’s another surprise! Cynical? Moi?

        I could not possibly comment.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Sentry – A PM secretly sabotaging her own country’s key priority policy and conspiring with the foreign opposition to get help in so doing. Now that would make a good story. We have lots of eager beaver journos, who think a family tiff is a great story, and I’m sure The Guardian will be game.
      They could start with Oily R.

         21 likes

  28. werter5075 says:

    Biased Broadcasting Corporation’s Anti Mark Field Panel On The Politics Live Show

       26 likes

    • smoogie7 says:

      I see that the BBC have got someone from Novara Media in. No one knows who these guys are yet the BBC are trying to advertise them.

         15 likes

  29. digg says:

    From the DM…
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7169559/Acid-attack-victims-suffer-burns-sprayed-corrosive-substance-east-London.html

    My question is why they used acid when they could have used milk shake?

       34 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      Thanks for posting.

      Interesting that both victims of the first acid attack were young black males. What would Jo Brand have to say?

      The second attack was on a market trader and committed by two people wearing full burkas. What would Jo Brand have to say?

      The Mayor of London is strangely quiet. Probably busy closing a few roads to save the planet.

         45 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Dover
        I love a bit of local colour where I live . More police tape .

        Friday – 1 fatal shooting one serious stabbing and two acid attacks . 7 dead in the week …

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  30. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #6! (Only a two hour prog on Sats & I’m up to #6!!!)

    Supermarkets are being blamed by the BBC and WHICH for unrecycleable and excessive packaging. No intelligent questions asked by the BBC. Were WHICH intelligent in doing their investigation? Are the supermarkets responsible for packaging products?

    Despair on the part of this listener.

    Off switch. It’s Saturday Live. I can’t stand their trails, let alone the programme.

       25 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Bottomline all waste plastic can be safely used fuel high temperature incinerators to make electricity/heat
      ..Pretending that the only way to deal with waste plastic is complex ‘sort and recycle ‘ .. is a fallacy

         27 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Agree, Stew, but you try getting the Green Blob to approve new UK Incinerators with Electricity Generation capability anywhere in the UK, let alone close to cities and the customers for the juice.

        Dodgy Dave Gilmour’s Guitar Lawyers will be at the Planning Consent meetings in a flash, faster than you can say Gordon. Oh, sorry, that was a different band.

        Peculiar thing is, the Green Blob is quite happy now with the concept of Carbon Capture but quite against doing it for waste incineration with generation.

        Barmy!

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  31. StewGreen says:

    8am LOCAL News
    #1 London Man has row with girlfriend*
    #2 St Jo Cox is being celebrated WORDWIDE..with 2 audio from her sister and local event
    #3 2 stolen cars recovered men arrested
    #4 There is a Women in Enineering event in Hull today
    #5 Which-consumer says half of UK home food packaging cannot be recycled
    .. with preaching form the magazine woman
    #6 Local village has free music day
    #7 weather

    News is basically agenda adverts

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  32. Doobster78 says:

    Jon having yet another petty swipe at the President. The gutter level of his reporting is disgusting. BBC impartiality hey !!!!!!!

    Jon likes to belittle the President for spending so much time on twitter, yet jon seems to live his entire life waiting for a chance for a snide reply / remark. The man is a JOKE.

    Looks like jon would have preferred war. Idiot

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    • Doobster78 says:

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      • Fedup2 says:

        God help me did sopel really write that ? He must have mental issues and been it that job for far too long .

        Disgraceful .

           45 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      3 tweets in one day in which the American correspondent attacks Donald Trump. There’s clearly something about America’s Republican President that he really dislikes.

         24 likes

      • pertelote says:

        Beebistan’s answer to the Stakhanovite movement! Come on John..you can do more (crap).

           15 likes

      • Thoughtful says:

        And which side did the cowadly useless Tory party take? Oh yes ! It was their colleague and fellow socialist Khan !

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      • vlad says:

        Umpteen tweets in which psychotic Sopel attacks Trump.
        There’s clearly something about America’s President that he really dislikes.

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    • G says:

      Doobster,
      “Jon likes to belittle the President for spending so much time on twitter, yet jon seems to live his entire life waiting for a chance for a snide reply / remark. The man is a JOKE.”
      Surely you’ve got Sopel mixed up with Maxicony. Oh! hang on, they couldn’t be one and the same could they?

         19 likes

  33. Scronker says:

    In Our Time latest podcast:

    The Mytilenaean Debate Thursday
    Melvyn Bragg and guests discuss why Athenians decided to send a fast ship to Lesbos in 427BC, rowing through the night to catch one they sent the day before. That earlier ship had instructions to kill all adult men in Mytilene, after their unsuccessul revolt against Athens, as a warning to others. The later ship had orders to save them, as news of their killing would make others fight to the death rather than surrender. Thucydides retells this in his History of the Peloponnesian War as an example of Athenian democracy in action, “emphasising the right of Athenians to change their minds in their own interests, even when a demagogue argued they were bound by their
    first decision.”

    Sounds like more Second Referendum propaganda.

       20 likes

  34. Sluff says:

    The BBC are still giving airtime to the ‘peaceful protestor’ i.e Far Left anarchist, who was marched out by Mark Field at the chancellor’s speech dinner.
    It speaks volumes of how spineless and pathetic and kow-towing politically correct our political leaders have become that he is chastised for this.
    I suspect quite a few ordinary folk think he should be applauded and promoted.
    And by the way a protest should not be defined as peaceful if it prevents people going about their ordinary, normal legal, business, and prevents the free speech of the speaker whom an audience has come to hear.

       50 likes

  35. Dover Sentry says:

    You only have to mention Jo Cox and what could have happened.

    Muted response.

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  36. Doobster78 says:

    Licence fee spent on cutting edge news . Any other reason you can see why the BBC like this story ???.

    A woman of colour beating the bullies !!. There must be group hugs galore in the newsroom when they find this stuff.

       20 likes

    • vlad says:

      Groan: get given and keep a stupid name designed to attract attention and comment, then moan about attracting attention and comment.

      (About as stupid and self-pitying as storming into and disrupting a private event at Mansion House, then moaning about being hustled out.)

      Oh, and the subject of Ms Illegal Drugs ‘doctorate’: “Black names in white classrooms- teacher behaviours and student perceptions”.

      Why am I not surprised?

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  37. NameNotNumber says:

    Ref: Mark Field. BBC, selective amnesia or terminal dementia

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-11682732

    … or the wrong kind of politician?

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  38. G says:

    NNN,
    That’s a different matter now. “Roshonara Choudhry, of East Ham,” would doubtless be immediately released with a warning from our stalwart boy’s in blue as an alternative to 15years. Oh how times change when change is only deterioration…….

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  39. upandatem says:

    There are journalists, political pundits, and the like, who hate Trump, Johnson, and Farage so much that they are willing to lie in order to humiliate them. The real victim in all this fabrication, of course, is the truth. These people have a mental illness, a psychosis, where truth and reality become subservient to their group view of the world. They succumb to the tyranny of delusion and we, the consumers of their rhetoric, are the losers. We deserve better of these people but, alas, they are no better than an alcohol-sodden hack on some provincial newspaper.

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  40. The General says:

    Why on earth are the Conservatives continuing with the election ?
    Boris already has more than half the votes of MPs and the BBC, Sky et al are licking their lips at the thought of 4 weeks to constantly undermine not just Boris but the Conservative Party as a whole. The TV debates so far are proof of their intent. If Jeremy Hunt thinks for one minute that should they destroy Boris and that he (Jeremy) should become PM, the BBC et al will not immediately set about destroying him using any tit bits they can glean from the Hustings.

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  41. digg says:

    Re the Boris kerfuffle. The Guardian includes a comment from the next door neighbours, who were concerned and called the police in case anyone was at risk then concluded by saying…

    “I am not a member of a political party. I’m frustrated politically by the last few years across the board but this was nothing to do with politics, I would hope that anybody that I know – friends, neighbours – would have their back if they heard something that sounded scary and frightening,” they said.”

    So it begs a big questions, after the police arrived and were satisfied that no-one was at risk they went straight to most Left Wing Newsrag with all the “gory” details a paper who were bound to pass these across to their “colleagues” at the BBC.

    If they think for one second that we don’t suspect their motives were political they are deluded. What despicable people!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Estate Agents with some new clients in a while, perhaps ….

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    • The General says:

      Quote:
      “I am not a member of a political party. I’m frustrated politically by the last few years across the board but this was nothing to do with politics, I would hope that anybody that I know – friends, neighbours – would have their back if they heard something that sounded scary and frightening,”

      And, of course, I will have my specialised recording equipment at the ready.

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      • vesnadog says:

        The ,

        And whose to say that Boris’ next door neighbours hadn’t rented out said house to certain MSM for such a time as this when they can “attach” certain bugging devices under certain windows etc. Of course all easily withdrawn by the time the cops turn up – being London that would be ample enough to skip the borough never mind do a quick click to fleet street or where ever these weasels go.

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  42. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/06/22/macron-wants-new-uk-prime-minister-loyal-respectful-eu-theresa-may/

    “French president Emmanuel Macron has indicated he does not care who succeeds Theresa May as Prime Minister of the United Kingdom, provided they are as “loyal and respectful” to the European Union as she has been.”

    I bet Micron wants someone as disloyal to the UK as May.

    The EU and ****s like Micron and VerckOffYouTwat are our enemies, and should be treated as such.

    Love to real (white and anti EU) Europeans XXXX.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      LastChanceSaloon

      Perhaps he knows something about Boris and the Tory Party that we ought to recognise.

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  43. StewGreen says:

    Windrush = SpecialVictimhood by Olusoga
    .. Actually community is hostile to lots of groups at different times, not just Windrush
    : people with red hair, single mothers, men who didn’t serve in the war , posh people in a poor area, poor people in a rich area. Ukip supporters, Brexiteers, Tommy Supporters
    Olusoga is naive to only see skin colour

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    • JimS says:

      How come the ship seems to have lost half of its name?

      Imagine if the BBC was reporting the 1948 story now – “Nazi ship brings in 693 migrants”

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  44. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Knife crime: Call for churches to provide safe havens””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-48731034

    A black female Reverend speaks cobblers and the BBC are all over it like a rash.

    Virtue-signalling style over substance. How is it really going to work?

    Churches would have more practical use as a 24/7 First Aid post, with the addition of a bucket of water to treat acid/milk shake attacks.

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    • Zelazek says:

      So, a black youth, fleeing a gang of knife-wielding thugs, dashes into the safe haven of a church. His pious pursuers, out of respect for the House of God, refrain from entering. Yes, what a great idea! Knife crime in London solved at a stroke!

      Wait a minute. What if his pursuers, realising that there are no Knights Templar or armed guards of any kind in the church, follow the poor chap in and stab him to death in front of the altar? No, that couldn’t happen.

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    • Scroblene says:

      Well, he wouldn’t get in because they’re usually locked to stop tea-leaves getting in and pinching the silver!

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  45. StewGreen says:

    Wimbledon , police blunder led to Albanian “refugee” becoming super burglar
    ..he feigned illness, they let him go without taking DNA.
    police believe he went onto to dozens of burglaries worth £10m
    \\ The Times has learnt that Kapaj, an Albanian who arrived in Britain in 1996 falsely claiming to be a Kosovan refugee, was arrested in possession of stolen goods in the area in 2001, having been working as a builder. He was taken to Wimbledon police station but when officers began to interview him he collapsed with what appeared to be a serious illness.
    Kapaj was transferred to hospital where he recovered quickly and was discharged with no further police action, despite the likelihood of a successful prosecution for handling stolen goods. Police failed to take a DNA sample, which meant that future investigations into his burglaries were hampered because material recovered from crime scenes did not bring up any matches on the national database.//

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      The blunder was letting him in the country.

      He is at fault for being a burglar.

      The Left/BBC always blame the system and not the individual.

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  46. StewGreen says:

    Zimbabwe student 3D-printed guns and then put metal in them
    so not just for show

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  47. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/06/22/germany-lawmakers-want-three-year-prison-terms-burning-eu-flag/
    “Germany: Lawmakers Want Three-year Prison Terms for Burning EU Flag”

    Also in Germany Syrian mass rapist pleaded guilty and given ten minute prison sentence.

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  48. fakenewswatcher says:

    Perhaps chancellor Hammond was fortunate that Mark Field intervened at his little speech. Who knows what might have happened to him?
    In Germany thousands of ‘climate activists’ have broken through police cordons at a coal mine at Garzweiler in North Rhine Westphalia, injuring officers and causing mayhem. Protesting students of ‘Fridays for Future’ mingled with leftist extremists of ‘Ende Gelaende’, who were determined to trespass by violent means. Whatever it took, apparently.
    In Germany- where The Greens are doing well in the polls- the madness is well ahead of the UK, but what is in progress there shows how police cannot be certain anymore who (or what?) they are dealing with.
    Violent anarchists are infiltrating peaceful protests, not a new phenomenon, but new in climate protests. Coming to city hall near you?
    A little letter of thanks, Phil Hammond to Mark Field, would not be inappropriate. As would the suspension of the suspender.
    Do we know yet why there was apparently no security at the London function? (Negligence, writ large).

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    • Doublethinker says:

      The miners need to stand up for themselves , no one else will, and teach the activists what working men can do when they are angry.

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  49. Celtic_Mist says:

    2011
    /
    Things the BBC didn’t tell us about the Brixton riots

    Radio 4’s The Reunion is an unilluminating and biased perspective on the Brixton riots, writes Charles Moore…

    Brixton was to enshrine the pernicious idea that racial groups should have collective rights that set them apart from the rest of society. We are a more ghettoised country as a result.
    /
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/charlesmoore/8410373/Things-the-BBC-didnt-tell-us-about-the-Brixton-riots.html

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    • Fedup2 says:

      5pm News . Tory members being interviewed by beeboids . Like being interviewed by a Martian . Tory members just say ‘ get us out ‘ . Beeboids say “what about the domestic ? “ Tories say ‘ screw the domestic ‘

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  50. Doobster78 says:

    Good old Boris !!. Check out the replies , he has got the Liberal mob in complete meltdown. Great stuff. Yet again the left are not happy things aren’t going their way like they are so used too. They are not taking it well. Poor souls !!!!!

    Trump, brexit and now more than likely Boris …..The left can’t get a look in at the moment despite all their crappy little protests and help from the BBC . Great times .

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    • Swelter says:

      What ever happened to that well rehearsed ditty” They are entitled to a private life?” It was vigorously warbled if my memory serves me well by the incumbents of the Blair /Brown government.

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