Start the Week Open Thread 17 June 2019

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  1. jakita says:

    Thanks Up2Snuff. I read the Express article that said the Euro is tumbling against the pound, as meaning the Euro is weakening against the pound, but as you rightly say it is the other way round. Agree with your last point, our PM never seems to tire of making foolish decisions!

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  2. theisland says:

    Mark Francois who, along with the main ERG members, endorses Boris (rightly or wrongly) sets out the legalities as follows:

    The legal default position under both EU law and UK law is that we now leave the European Union on the night of 31st October 2019. The only further legal requirement is that a Minister of the Crown physically signs the so-called “Commencement Order” to finalise the process. In short, no further legislation or even a Statutory Instrument is required in order for us to leave on Halloween. This is something the Remainers know but do not wish to advertise for very obvious reasons. When Michael Gove said in this week’s Channel Four News debate that “Parliament would have to vote to approve No Deal”, he was factually incorrect.

    https://brexitcentral.com/theresa-mays-deal-is-dead-and-boris-johnson-is-the-only-tory-leadership-contender-saying-so/

    Sounds simple enough – despite all the deliberate obfuscation.
    I assume the ERG think they can keep BoJo to his promise (assuming he wins).

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    • Up2snuff says:

      ti, bit of a shame that MPs like Francois, Baker, Rigden haven’t had the Cabinet experience to provide them with a platform and profile to be making a bid for Conservative Party leadership.

      The only candidate that keen Brexiteers appear to have in this fight is Dominic Raab.

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  3. Thoughtful says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/48673461

    BBC playing this down and it’s harly surprising.

    “Former Uefa president Michel Platini is being questioned by French anti-corruption investigators over the awarding of the 2022 World Cup to Qatar.”

    Of course the biased media apportions no blame to the Salafi state of Qatar for giving the bribe, probably because of the can of worms it risks opening.

    If Qatar is prepared to bribe a mickey mouse organisation like FIFA for a football match then surely even the most dense mind would have to accept they would be prepared to also bribe others in persuit of their own aims and ambitions.

    Qatar is one of the major funders of Islamic schools in the UK, it is regarded by its neighbours and others Saudi Arabia, United Arab Emirates, Bahrain, Egypt, the Maldives, Mauritania, Senegal, Djibouti, the Comoros, Jordan, the Tobruk-based Libyan government, and the Hadi-led Yemeni government, all severed diplomatic ties on the basis it is a terrorist sponsoring state.

    Both Tony BLiar and Hitlery Clinton have been ‘consultants’ to Qatar in recent years and have taken a lot of money from the Royal family, but we will never know if the services rendered were worth the financial reward, but yet again it is further prima facie evidence that Western leaders are accepting bribes from oil rich Middle Eastern states.

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    • Beltane says:

      Another item failing to get mentioned on the news were the five complaints of electoral fraud at Peterborough currently being investigated by the police.
      Our revered and respected source of all knowledge pulled their usual stunt of tucking it away on the text pages – so they can’t be accused of ignoring the matter, just giving it the coverage they feel it deserves.
      That said, will the police investigation result in charges? Start holding breath……now.

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  4. Cassandra says:

    The Conservative leadership contest is beginning to get nasty…

    (For those readers under 40, the BBC once did rather funny comedy).

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  5. G says:

    TWATO just:
    Only headlines then ‘off’ switch.
    Conclusion: The World is shaping up to an expected turn of events. The UK? Rudderless and likely to remain that way for the foreseeable future.

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  6. Sluff says:

    I think I have well and truly hit the biased BBC jackpot in terms of minority, favoured narrative, virtue-signalling.
    On the BBBC news channel, a trailer at 1258.
    “Old, transgender, and living in Pakistan” – a forthcoming feature on ‘Our World’.
    I’m not making this up.
    It’s what we pay the license fee for.
    Beat that !

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  7. Doobster78 says:

    May be a bit on the harsh side Barry !!! But then again, he was a far lefty , so ????

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  8. Roland Deschain says:

    I think the BBC is terribly pleased with this one. Perhaps they think Trump cares.

    I’m a bit mystified as to how someone who can afford to buy a whole town can’t afford better than a piece of paper with “GAY” written in crayon sellotaped over the old wording.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Comic stunt : They sell mayor for a day for $100.
      It’s literally just a tourist attraction.
      https://www.gotohellmi.com/mayor-of-hell.html

      website is super slow

      @Roland you did read the BBC story ?
      cos in the third paragraph it also explains the stunt
      and that he did it before in 2017

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      • Roland Deschain says:

        No, I have better things to do than read every article from the BBC that pops up on my Twitter feed. That way lies insanity.

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        • StewGreen says:

          It is the BBC making a Daily Star like FakeNews story to troll the licence payers

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  9. Doobster78 says:

    Lammy’s twitter feed is the gift that keeps on giving !!!

    They only want investigations when it suits don’t they !!!

    Now he wants the Public to Vote !! LOL. Massive HYPOCRITE alert !!
    You don’t respect the Publics Voting you moron !!

    Please Twitter, dont ever shut Lammy down.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Lammy: “Call me old fashioned but isn’t it time we asked the public to vote?”

      A public vote, what a quaint idea. I remember those. Lammy’s idea of old-fashioned no doubt open only to urban 16 year-olds, with a cash bonus if you get the ‘X’ in the right box.

      (postal votes only)

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      • Not Gwent says:

        Terminal Moraine

        Lammy: “Call me old fashioned but isn’t it time we asked the public to vote?”

        Wonderfully short memory or myopia?

        A polician who speaks to his constituency. He’ll go far and reminds me of another professional complainer.

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  10. Thoughtful says:

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  11. king crimson says:

    Not the bbbc as such but I have discovered the identity of maxi boy……born on Jan 18th 2017….father Oasis Dream…mother Lavender and Lace…runs in the 3.05 at Ascot today!

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    • Fedup2 says:

      King
      As moderator I thought I couldn’t mention this gg as a possible tip but it has got my 50p e/w on it …28/1. I’m thinking it might be a dettori day though ….

      Sadly there is no horse running today called ‘daft Rory ‘ but there is one in the 3.05 called ‘ropey guest’…

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  12. Thoughtful says:

    LOL the BBC is reporting about corruption in Haiti following the earthquake and projects which jave never been completed.

    One thing they never did comment on though was the corruption alleged against the Clintons and their foundation, which even wikipedia can manage to report.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Haiti#Clinton_Foundation_and_Clinton_Bush_Haiti_Fund_funds

    It seems that even when the evidence about one of their favourites is screaming out, the BBC are going to make damn sure you they paying public never get to find out about it.

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  13. NISA says:

    John Cusack (an actor) puts out an anti-Semitic tweet, he apologises when his “it was all due to bot” excuse didn’t wash.
    So as its a fair cop how can the BBC diminish any culpability by a progressive? Why, of course, by bringing into the report, the nearly totally unrelated matter that the right have been beastly about Soros (who is a Jew, in addition to several other factors which may be more relevant)
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-48677183

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  14. G.W.F. says:

    The BBC’s image of far right extremism

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  15. Dystopian says:

    I see the enviro loons are now wanting to tax fashion and the bbc are giving them a platform.
    Do they want us all living in caves, running around naked and only eating quorn burgers?
    Are we even allowed to light a fire to cook them?
    Absolute cranks!

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  16. JamesArthur says:

    TWATO
    What a load of bull……..female comedy writers bleating….’we have to force people to listen to us’ yes we all have to do that..not just women. There doesn’t seem to be much funny stuff written on BBC or ITV at the moment…so men/women/LGBTXYZ.. it doesn’t matter

    And the usual knock Boris, big up Rory – it is all getting very tedious or is it just me…?

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  17. chancygardner says:

    ‘The factory making shoes out of plastic bottles

    By 2050, there is expected to be more plastic in the world’s oceans then there are fish.’

    The premise of this BBBC article is as per the lead headline. Fair enough and an excellent recycling project. Full marks Rodney. Unfortunately, your follow up statement is complete nonsense. What on Earth does it mean?? More surface area? More volume? More individual fabricated items? More molecules? It’s just like the subject being covered; throwaway rubbish journalism.

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  18. StewGreen says:

    “New Top Gear gets 2.5m viewers”
    FFS what is population of the UK ?
    The old Clarkson TG got 6+ million viewers

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    • Beltane says:

      More to the point Stew, the outfit that announced what they saw as the huge success for the new family-friendly Top Gear was…..the BBC.

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  19. Guest Who says:

    OT, but I have my doubts a teenage Swede wrote this.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      Beware of false flags.

      Green is another way to control other peoples lives whilst plundering their wallets.

      I know let’s declare an emergency so we get emergency laws and emergency taxes.

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    • Guest Who says:

      If only boats had been invented.

      The comments from the groupies are awesome.

      I wonder how Justin, Rog, David etc are going to get there?

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      • Beltane says:

        For Justin, Rog and David – not forgetting George – the obvious mode of travel is hot air balloon.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Well, it would enjoy limitless fuel supplies.

          The thread replies are awesome.

          I am liking the ‘you are too important not to fly’ ones that doubtless will swing things for her, her entourage, the media pack… etc.

          The Animal Farm Napoleonisation of XR Citizens’ Assemblies is clearly underway. And no BBC Ark.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Here’s George.

          Debating whether to share with our new Green and Limp councillors, who are quite excited about their tree planting plans.

          Hilarity might ensue.

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          • Beltane says:

            Best let all the deer know, George. They’ve got this unfortunate non-environmentally friendly habit of chewing young trees or rubbing their antlers to get the velvet off and ring-barking them. One of the best ways to protect them is with tree-tubes – but they are plastic of course, so we’ll have to do without and hope for the best? Eh? Might cost a bit but, well Greta would understand.
            By ‘trashed’ I assume that means crop growing or is it cattle grazing?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Guest, would that be a parody account by any chance?

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        • Guest Who says:

          Anything is possible.

          I was going to pop to Aldi to get an Acer in advance of our hols, but it seems this is now WRONG.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            Computer or tree, Guest?

            I have been wondering whether Greta will stay in Sweden from now on and only appear by internet video link? Not so much Big Brother but Leeeyttle Swaedisch Shister. That, of course, would be the minimal CO2 emissions way to do it.

            You may need to buy her an Acer laptop with a camera to enable her to do just that. Oh, hang on. She’s got a rich Mum who can buy it for her. You’re off the hook, Guest. Happy hols!

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      • Old Goat says:

        Does the “flying” bit include broomsticks and/or sorcery?

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    • vesnadog says:

      G,

      “Greta”

      I wonder if the Simpsons have done her yet?

      Perhaps do a 1000 episode series about her strange ability to use so many words which children of my yuff rarely used?

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  20. JamesArthur says:

    How about Greta meets Rory – the BBC could make a whole series on that one..

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  21. Guest Who says:

    #CCBGB

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    • vlad says:

      Terrifying figures.

      Worldwide indoctrination.

      The Matrix spreads its sinister web.

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  22. Guest Who says:

    Interesting. Off now to see who in the MSM is reporting this…

    I may be some time.

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  23. Guest Who says:

    Something to do with the bbc, too.

    https://order-order.com/2019/06/18/pattens-glaring-hypocrisy-boris-jibe/

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  24. Right Angle says:

    BBC BIAS! shouts the Express headline. Of course, that was going to get my attention:

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1141797/Brexit-latest-BBC-Gary-Lineker-Tory-anti-Brexit-tweets

    This is what pro-Brexit Conservative MP John Whittingale had to say:

    “On the one hand, you’ve got a lot of Brexit supporters who think the BBC is clearly biased and very unbalanced, then you’ve got Andrew Adonis on the other side who calls it the Brexit Broadcasting Corporation, on what possible basis I have no idea.”

    His complaint was specifically directed against the well-known Biased BBC favourites Gary Lineker and Emily Maitlis.

    The article ends with:

    “BBC has refused to comment on whether they will take action against the two employees.”

    Oh they will … when pigs fly …

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The Left shout about ‘right’ and ‘brexit’ bias as a smokescreen against the truth . It’s a bit like the fallacy that the bbc uses to claim it is attacked from both sides so therefore must be doing something right .

      Both the evidence and rapidly declining user figures show that …

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    • Oaknash says:

      Angle – remember John Whittingdale (who reported these two remainer clowns) was the same bloke who bottled the last BBC Charter review – Just another Tory elite talking head, who wants to give the impression he cares about democracy but in reality couldnt give a stuff as long as his well padded posterior remains seated on a green bench.

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  25. Guest Who says:

    Maybe Greta is proofing Laura, who is clearly excited.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Sky News Australia
    Andrew Bolt says the left is the ‘natural home of the totalitarian’, bullies and people who ‘like to push others around’. https://bit.ly/2IoBXZ0 #theboltreport

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    • maxincony says:

      StewGreen,

      Andrew Bolt says the left is the ‘natural home of the totalitarian’, bullies and people who ‘like to push others around’.”.

      Like this?

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  27. Thoughtful says:

    Paul Crowther of Throkley Newcastle, lost his job at Sky as a technical assistant, for throwing a milk shake over Nigel Farage, and a good thing for anyone who believes like he does that violence is an accepable response to anyone they disagree with.
    The setence of the judge however does show some political bias, with the Brexit campaigner who threw an egg at Jeremy Corbyn being imprisoned for 28 days,

    Paul Crowther, 32, of Holeyn Road, Throckley, pleaded guilty to common assault and criminal damage at North Tyneside Magistrates’ Court.

    He was given 150 hours of unpaid work assessment and ordered to pay Mr Farage £350 compensation

    The attack on Corbyn attracted a more serious charge too, assault by beating.

    The politicisation of the Police by loonie leftie Cameron has now led to a highly partial application of the law, where those felt to be fyrthest from left wing thought receive the worst service and the harshest treatment.

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    • Banania says:

      What about the one who attacked Tommy Robinson? (I forget his real name, but you know who I mean.)

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    • maxincony says:

      Thoughtful,

      The setence of the judge however does show some political bias, with the Brexit campaigner who threw an egg at Jeremy Corbyn being imprisoned for 28 days,

      John Murphy didn’t ‘throw an egg’; he punched Corbyn in the head whilst holding an egg in his hand.

      The attack on Corbyn attracted a more serious charge too, assault by beating.

      Yes, a more serious charge because it was a more serious assault.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        As the Bible says ” Be sure your lies will find you out”.

        He did not punch Corbyn no account has that, not even the Guardian or the BBC. He had the egg in the palm of his hand and he smashed it on Corbyns head. Corbyn was able to wash this off, and it did not affect his Islamic campaigning.
        It was a lesser attack because the assault only affected his head, not his entire body and it did not prevent him carrying on with is foul business.

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  28. Fedup2 says:

    I’d bet you a milkshake he gets his job back if milkshake wars die away ….meanwhile ms brand is practicing an oh so low profile for such a big gobby monster

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  29. theisland says:

    Dominic Raab is knocked out!

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    • taffman says:

      Dominic Raab A ‘No Deal’ Brexiteer .
      Unfortunately, The Tory Party is full of remainers.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      island – interesting to contemplate what it says about our Remainer parliament, as well as the ‘Conservative’ party, that the only MP candidate for PM, unambiguously in favour of implementing the will of the people, has now been eliminated.
      Granted, there is a whole lot more to being PM, but right now the No1 issue that needs urgent addressing is Brexit. Even Boris has not convinced me that he is determined to leave on the due date (which WAS actually 29 March!). I do hope he proves me wrong…
      Now Raab may have been ‘no deal’, but we have been preparing for that quite extensively- as Liz Truss explained on The Westminster Hour, and it is the only genuine ‘leave’ scenario.
      Instead, MPs have fallen for people like Rory Stewart, who was Labour, and gives every impression of fitting in to the LimpDums quite comfortably. May even be happy to return to Labour if that was where the most strutting and preening could be done. Perhaps I do the boy an injustice? Don’t know.

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  30. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Panorama need to investigate:

    “Why Did May Waste Three Years Lying About Brexit?”

    “What did she say in Brussels?”

    “Why were negotiations in secret? To prevent exposing her deception?

    “What is the financial, political and social cost to the nation?”

    “Should she be prosecuted?”

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    • theisland says:

      Look at her Art. 50 letter.
      Six pages in which the phrase “deep and special partnership” appears SEVEN TIMES.

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    • Oaknash says:

      Sorry Dover Panorama too busy trying to get their revenge on Tommy Robinson for exposing them.

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  31. Oaknash says:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-46460442

    Good news two right wing extremists jailed for making threats about Harry and his mixed race wife Meghan. I expect even now plod is making preparations to feel the collar of the numerous people who have made threats online to kill Tommy Robinson. Oh wait………………

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  32. Stevie m says:

    Boris is 80 votes ahead of his nearest rival and yet Beth Rigby won’t shut up about Rory Stewart. He has 37 votes out of a possible 313. Not much of a contender in my humble opinion

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  33. Doobster78 says:

    Oh look. Raab out and Boris has massive lead BUT the BBC very excited to tell me that Rory Stewart was the candidate with the biggest increase in votes since round one !!!!!

    This just about sums it up

    The far left BBC will be all over him tonight , forget popcorn, it’s sick buckets required tonight .

    More Rory love from the BBC !!!

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    • Oaknash says:

      To be honest with you I expect at the end of the day – Boris is no more committed brexit than he is committed to his current girlfriend, he also is quite “relaxed” about migration. I am just sick to death of the whole lot of them and in truth hoped that Rory Stewart got elected – at least in the next election we would get a real choice between the Brexit party and the pro remain Tory party.
      If DD, Redwood or Pritti Patel had stood – I would have still have had a little faith that they were not planning a fudge. However with Raab now removed I think the last brexiteerish candidate has gone.

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      • gb123 says:

        For me the only word beginning with b that Boris supports starts with b and ends in oris.

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  34. G.W.F. says:

    I am concerned over the support being expressed for Boris. He may be the best of a very bad bunch in a very bad and cowardly Conservative Party that does not deserve a single vote in an election, but can we trust him? He wants a deal, I cannot believe he is for Brexit and think he will find a way of delaying it indefinitely.

    Neither Boris nor Nigel are prepared to consider immigration which means that for some of us it is back to UKIP.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      GWF – I think for years UKIP has been the only credible party for UK independence, and I have no quarrel with Nigel. His Brexit party -regrettably- is short on continuity track record (for which he obviously can’t be blamed), well-established nationwide structures, breadth of policy in place etc.
      When he was fighting a lonely battle for UKIP the MSM hardly ever wanted to know; suddenly- after he left- he became a media darling. I wonder what that tells us? (I don’t know the answer, but would be interested to hear other thoughts.)

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  35. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    At the beginning I wanted Esther McVey.
    She was voted out first round.
    Then I wanted the other leaver Dominic Raab.
    He went in the second round.

    I don’t think there are any proper leavers left as I’m unsure about Boris and even less about the rest down to Uriah Heep.

    I’m not too bothered as I’m UKIP/TBP so my feeling is if no proper Brexit by 31 October then the ERG must bring down the government and a GE should give us Farage as PM.
    If Uriah Heep somehow gets to be PM the ERG should immediately bring the government down.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      EG, if UH=RS, then I think the Conservative Party are done for whether there is a late autumn/winter election or we wait until 2022. Continually seeing his face and listening while he gurns is not going to appeal Tory voters and, more importantly, the swing voters. Then there’s no certainty of policy with Stewart who has been wobbling as wildly over the weekend and this week as Bojo has ever done, bike or no bike.

      However, there could be a Party split coming. It’s a toss up whether it is Labour or the Conservatives first.

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  36. Dover Sentry says:

    Boris knows which side his bread is buttered.

    If he doesn’t deliver Brexit, the Conservatives will be out and he will no longer be PM. And he wouldn’t want that, would he? 😉

    The BBC will do their best to humiliate him tonight.

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    • taffman says:

      Forget the Tories .
      The only hope for GB now is to vote or support UKIP or The Brexit Party. Parliament are for staying in the EU and are vehemently supported to remain in by Al Beeb.

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        Agreed!

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        • Up2snuff says:

          It may take a Hong Kong type struggle to get us out of the EU. I pray not but those brave folk may be showing the way. Interesting that I heard some hymn singing in one broadcast of the HK demos by the Beeb.

          Spiritual struggle in HK? Spiritual struggle to get UK out of EU? Hmmmnnn … . . . .

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  37. Despairada says:

    Radio 4 news today and yesterday reporting on the demise while in the dock of ex (muslim brotherhood) president of Egypt Mohamed Morsi. Maybe it’s me but the reporting seemed more sorrowful than necessary with no mention of why he had to be deposed.

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  38. Halifax says:

    Lets play video questionnaire Bingo for tonight’s BBC debate….

    Hijab
    Climate change extremist
    BME male
    BME female
    Mad red faced 60 something male nut case pro Brexit.
    non English first language
    gay activist
    European worker
    Geordie

    So there u go………

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      Have you seen the video of Angela Merkel shaking uncontrollably.
      She looks to be seriously ill.
      I’m surprised it isn’t all over the tv right now.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        EG
        Do you think she’s picked up Brussels drinking habits ? Won’t go down very well in the Reich .

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  39. SpinningReith says:

    ” If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear. ”
    If BBC means anything at all, it means the right not to tell people what they do not want them to hear.

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  40. ObiWan says:

    The BBC is again going the Full Gore on this story about melted ice sheets in Greenland…

    Greenland’s ‘unusual’ melting sea ice captured in stunning image
    Global warming, Mr Colgan said, was “tremendously important” to these sorts of events.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48674797

    What needs to happen is that someone needs to file this story, keep it around and see, if in five, ten years time, the BBC’s catastrophism was anywhere near the truth. I dunno, perhaps there’s an existing historical record of icemelt that might show this event is not unusual or unique (unless you’re just looking at the last 20 years)…

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    • Up2snuff says:

      ObiWan there was a big ice-melt last year in Greenland that got all the AGW/CC pushers very excited. After it was over, IIRC, the ice re-formed.

      Have a search here:
      https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/

      more specifically here:
      https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/tag/greenland/

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    • davylars says:

      I saw this and noticed it was being reported by the BBC and Guardian as further proof of man made climate change.
      After a bit research I came across an article from the Greenland Institute of Natural Resources

      “The final branch of the Gulf Stream swings around the southern tip of Greenland, at Cape Farewell, and flows up along the west coast of Greenland through Melville Bay and into Inglefield Bredning, where the current occurs as a relatively warm and saline core at a depth of approx. 300 m under the cold and relatively fresh surface water. The ocean current’s journey ends in the innermost part of the fjord, at 77 degrees north. The Atlantic Gulf Stream waters mix with meltwater and flow out of the fjord near the surface.
      This blending of the waters deep in the fjord causes the Atlantic water to lose some of its warmth, making the sea ice thinner in the innermost part of the fjord. Here it is only roughly 70 cm thick, whereas it reaches a thickness of approx. 120 cm farther out because the ice towards the mouth of the fjord is protected by the cold layer of surface water.”

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  41. pugnazious says:

    The BBC is still targeting Boris with nonsense trash news designed to er, trash Boris.

    Why is the grand BBC interested at all in the trivia story about a photo of the messy inside of a Boris family car? Why constantly bring it up all day long? The BBC that wants more responsible journalism and respect for politicians and was so outraged that the Daily Mail should dare to have a bit of fun with ‘Legs-it’ [lol…check out Owen Jones’ furious froth-flecked rant on this…Legs-it should terrify us…‘The newspaper’s decision to objectify the legs of the country’s most prominent female politicians – focusing on what they look like rather than what they stand for – represents one of its many lows. But while it should be mocked, parodied, ridiculed, it should terrify us: because it is indicative of what is happening in Brexit Britain.’]

    Then I heard that we must know about Boris’ children…we have to know about his family….the children he has will evidence his character, integrity and family values no less. What they mean of course is that they will use the fact that he has children by different mothers to attack him and suggest he is somehow, what did Humphrys call him?…oh yes…’Morally dubious’.

    Imagine if you called any of those single mothers with children by several fathers that so often populate the BBC airwaves ‘morally dubious’…massive outrage? Of course. But the BBC seems OK with exploiting and weaponising Boris’ children and family life and portray him as some sort of immoral, decadent monster.

    Hmmm…roll back to the last Tory leadership contest and Andrea Leadsom dared to mention her family and the fact that her children’s future concerned her and thus shaped her politics…she was utterly destroyed. She was of course the victim of a set-up by the Times’ Rachel Sylvester who is fanatically anti-Tory and anti-Brexit…so the pro-Brexit Tory Leadsom was always on a loser with her. It was Sylvester in the interview who insisted repeatedly on talking about family…and then twisted what was said to claim it was a snide attack by Leadsom on May who has no children. The BBC naturally adopted the Sylvester narrative and blasted Leadsom…who was written rapidly out of the contest.

    Curiously no outrage about Sajid Javid using his family to full advantage…as do nearly all politicians of course….and the BBC does at every chance as a stick to beat the Tories with and to damn Brexit……..Brexit has stolen their future…climate change…education…equality etc etc etc….

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  42. Sluff says:

    Watching the Tory leadership debate.
    The bBBC have picked the most untypical range of people imaginable. All from various minorities.
    Meanwhile Emily Maitlis is a total cow.
    At one point a candidate tried to ask the question asked by the member of the public.
    Before he could answer, Maitlis asked a different question.
    The candidate tried to answer the original question and Maitlis cut him off for not answering her question.
    Maitlis makes me remember the quote from Shakespeare, ‘what meat doth this our Caesar eat that he is grown so great?’

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  43. The General says:

    She is talking over Boris all the time and cannot hid her dislike . On the other hand she is giving that little pratt Steward free rain and far too much of the so called debate.

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  44. Sluff says:

    Biased BBC tory leadership debate.
    Questions are asked by ‘members of the public’
    Here are the ‘typical members of the public’.
    We’ve just had a question from an Imam.
    Now we have a 15 year old Scottish girl wanting to reduce emissions to zero by….about next week.
    Next its someone with dark hair and an Asian complexion.

    What a warped sense of the nation the BBC marxists have.
    Still, no doubt the correct boxes have been ticked.

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  45. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I watched it and to be honest none of them should be PM.
    They were all pathetic in my opinion.
    None of them would guarantee being out by 31 Oct.

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  46. smoogie7 says:

    Awful bias on the BBC tonight. Stewart is clearly their favourite

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    • The General says:

      Don’t want to be too personal but he really could do with a bigger face to accommodate those teeth.

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  47. Ed Hitter says:

    Well, that was a car crash of a debate. Maitlis lost control, letting the five talk over each other and she constantly cut off Boris Johnson in mid sentence with her own snide comments while letting Rory Stewart ramble on.
    It even made the Channel 4 offering the other night look relatively professional.
    This shambles looked like a deliberate BBC ploy to turn the leadership contest into a blue-on-blue bear pit with nobody coming out of it looking good.
    Even the “public” questions were selected to fit the biased BBC agenda – a teenager asking about climate change and an Imam asking about Islamaphobia (Maitlis immediately turning it on to Johnson and his “letterboxes” comment).
    Nothing about knife crime, Muslim rape gangs, the corrupt and broken EU project, or how to power up the north of England. Typical metropolitan tripe.

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    • smoogie7 says:

      Johnson got too little air time for it to be seen as fair. The way he was treated was disgusting but I expected that from the BBC.

      Selected questions to trigger an argument and now the BBC website is full of selected tweets.

      To be fair the candidates actually kept their cool despite such an awful set up. Fingers crossed that Stewart gets the boot though. He seems to be the token remainer of the group and is getting too cocky for my liking. I sense a lot of Blair in him

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  48. Dover Sentry says:

    Stewart took his tie off half way through and posed sprawling on the chair. So edgy, so stupid.

    Maitless asked if any of them would raise their hand if they could deliver Brexit in October. Nobody raised their hand. And that included Boris.

    Why can’t it be done by October? Extra time was given in April, and that after three years.

    I’m now of the view that Boris does not intend for Brexit to happen. This evening was his chance to say so. He blustered about how important dead lines are and that the voters want us to Leave, honour the result, blah, blah.

    The Tory Remainers will vote against the Government and force an Election.

    Does The Brexit Party still exist? I get the impression from the BBC that it is a dead Party, it is no more, it has gone to meet its maker…
    🙂

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  49. Fedup2 says:

    Ed
    I thought it was really good . Alex boris invoked his Muslim grandfather , Jeremy Hunt invoked his 3 half Chinese kids , Gove did his fostered thing , Rory gave the impression of being asleep and didn’t wear a tie And Saj – well Saj did diddly .

    Boris achieved his objective – do serious damage even when maitlss tried to put him on the spot … shame mr Raab missed out .

    On the upside – if only Brillo was running it instead of lightweight Maitlis . Certainly more meaningless fun than c4

    And if you notice – no black people -double you tee eff ! Or did I miss one ?

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    • The General says:

      ” No black people ”
      Well they got as close as they thought they could with about half the typical voters being a darker shade of pale.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Field Marshall
        I was really surprised they didn’t put up a black person to go off on something. But I suppose the BBC wants to protect their Londonistan mayor for as long as possible …

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        • The General says:

          Fedup, I think they did an adequate hatchet job on Boris without going down that route.
          All the candidates should refuse to do anymore for the other tv stations. Their only objective is to undermine the Conservatives. Should Rory somehow manage to survive tomorrow’s vote, he of course would gratefully accept and could sit alone spouting his idiotic waffle and filling the screen with his horrifying grin while kidding himself he is ‘the man’. All he is doing is aiding the left wing , remain media in their quest to derail Brexit.

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          • smoogie7 says:

            Rory Blair is their new man until election time and then it is back to bigging up Corbyn.

            Rory must looks like he is being presented as a gift to Labour and given a chance he would merge to two parties! Just madness

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        • Banania says:

          I have the impression that the ROPers are not only antisemitic but anti-black as well. Is that right? In which case that is another bit of trouble waiting for when this lefty-verse love-in bursts apart.

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