Midweek Open Thread 12 June 2019

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  1. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #4

    Mishal suddenly sounds positively bright, frisky even: “The first cull of Conservative Party leadership candidates takes place today.”

    No wonder.

    She is now talking to Sajid Javid.

    Hmmmmnnn.

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    • Dystopian says:

      Ah but, if the left believe all Leave voters are racist bigots, then why would they want a Muslim prime minister to go up against Farage? (Aside from the fact that Islam/Muslim is not a race).

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  2. Dover Sentry says:

    The following Labour MPs voted for a ‘No Deal’ Brexit in Parliament yesterday. Well done. :-

    Sir Kevin Barron, Ronnie Campbell, Jim Fitzpatrick, Caroline Flint, Stephen Hepburn, Kate Hoey, John Mann, Graham Stringer.

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  3. taffman says:

    “Brexit: MPs reject Labour plan for no-deal vote”
    “Tory Remain supporter and former Attorney General Dominic Grieve said the motion was the “last sensible opportunity” to stop no deal.”
    Question ……………………
    Dominic Grieve : Motivation – patriotism or ulterior motive?

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  4. Dystopian says:

    Boris doesn’t want no deal.
    I found his speech yesterday lack lustre and quite uninspiring.
    I genuinely believe his heart is not in it.
    The only way to secure Brexit, in my opinion, is to keep voting for Nigel.

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  5. Doobster78 says:

    David ” Full of Hatred ” Lammy banging his keyboard again..

    Once again our Democracy is under threat !!!! What actual world does this race baiting idiot live in. Its actually YOU David that is openly thwarting democracy you clown. Oh and fraud …. PETERBOROUGH !!

    And also tweets …

    But lets just take the Lefty line and the BBC line … it was JUST A JOKE !! There, that should be the end of it.

    The double standards of these Lefties is making my blood boil at temperatures hither too unknown to man !!!!

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    • Dystopian says:

      I wonder if David cycled to work today on his tax payer funded bicycle claimed on expenses.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Doob
      Couldn’t agree more..David Lammy – has he ever done or said anything positive or useful?
      And as for the Muslim comment – it is a fact , they do look like postboxes…but on the BBC you can say anything and just say it was a joke – so if I say ‘I would like to murder a female MP – but that is just my fantasy ‘ that would be okay then..of course it wouldn’t
      …but to throw acid at politicians is okay? And to physically abuse, throw milkshake and scream at Trump supporter doesn’t gain any traction on BBC, but to shout traitor/nazi at female MP means BBC fury and arrested
      Hypocrisy and double standards of left liberals make my blood boil too

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    • gb123 says:

      I wonder what the reporting would be if the head line, instead of “Brexit Party ‘at high risk’ of accepting illegal donations, says Electoral Commission” was ‘Labour Party ‘at high risk’ of accepting illegal postal votes, says Electoral Commission’.

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      • cromwell says:

        I complained to the Electoral Commision on Monday about the large amount of postal votes in the Peterborough election. They replied yesterday with a snotty attitude, the sort of reply you get from the BBC . The parting shot from them was if you still have a problem with this issue get in touch with Peterborough.

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        • Not Gwent says:

          IIRC “the Electoral Commision” seem to care more about turnout than voter integrity?

          No wonder they ‘do an OFCOM’ in response to any queries about inflated postal votes for one party etc.

          Peterborough should be investigated by someone more interested in drilling down to the truth.

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        • LastChanceSaloon says:

          c
          “the sort of reply you get from the BBC”

          No surprise, The Labour Party Trough, The QANGO trough, The Public Sector trough (of which the BBC is a part), The Charity trough.
          Every few weeks some of them get their snouts out of the trough.
          Then they play the trough version of musical chairs.
          Two differences from the version normally played a) Everyone gets a huge pay rise with their new chair, b) there are six more chairs than used in the previous game, with new troughers filling them.
          Then snouts back in the trough.

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        • taffman says:

          “Power tends to corrupt; absolute power corrupts absolutely.”

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    • Jeff says:

      “It was JUST A JOKE!!”
      I seem to remember Sargon saying something similar when questioned about his gag about not raping Jess Phillips.
      The BBC were all over this story at the time. I remember an interview he gave to Victoria Derbyshire who sat there sour faced and dripping with moral outrage. She clearly didn’t find his remarks amusing.
      However, an ugly fat lefty can suggest throwing acid in a politicians face and we’re all supposed to fall over laughing.
      Double standards at The Beeb?
      Surely not…

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  6. Beeb Brother says:

    ‘Morrisons and Amazon expand same day deliveries.”

    This is churnalism: Beeb staff will have been sent a press release from marketing companies and repackaged it as news. Do we really need our national broadcaster to run adverts for companies?

    Do they have no shame? 20,000 staff and an annual income of £5billion yet this is one of their lead stories?

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      BB
      This is the, value for money, BBC.
      Others pay peanuts and get monkeys.
      The BBC pay coconuts and still get monkeys.

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    • JimS says:

      How are Waitrose home deliveries doing? We need to know.

      Sharon White in action.

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    • vesnadog says:

      Beeb,

      A few days ago someone commenting on here noticed how few BBC employees were sat in their seats as the TV news began.

      This morning nearly every seat bar a few were fully occupied.

      Playing truant while boss isn’t looking?

      Whatever you BBC employees do while the cat is away your boss can check the very good in house CCTV images . I would come in earlier tomorrow if I were you. Oh, except for the high earners..

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  7. RobRoy says:

    BBC5Live phone in is talking about Jo Brand’s ‘joke’ yesterday. I managed the first 20 mins and most of the conversation so far has been the usual crap about Nigel Farage. Good old Kevin McGuire has said his piece (although he did think Brand has stepped over the line). Only the beeb could defend Jo Brand and make it about Farage – and just as I turned off, on came that bloke from the stay in the EU campaign! How do they think they can get away with it!

    And I also learned the programme was recorded. So an editor and a producer listened to that and thought it was suitable??? I’d say hang your heads in shame, but of course they know no shame.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “Only the beeb could defend Jo Brand and make it about Farage”

      This is the equivalent of the ‘she was wearing a short skirt she was asking for it’ defence.

      Hypocrisy pure and simple.

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      • honestus says:

        NG,
        Agreed. Wonder at their reaction when the inevitable happens and nutjob carries out the ever so helpful suggestion as proposed by Brand?

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    • BRISSLES says:

      I don’t listen to much radio, but having seen your list of guests Rob, that included Kevin McGuire (editor of sorts at the d/mirror), I’m wondering when does this guy do any actual work at the offices of the Mirror ? He seems to be a permanent talking head on Sky/ITV/BBC or radio for any debate/press review going.

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    • vesnadog says:

      Rob,

      I agree.

      The BBC presenters thought that the Farage milk shaking was hilarious and Ms Brand thought throwing acid over someone they hated was also hilarious.

      So why is the BBC in-house comedian AND just as important why wasn’t those BBC TV news presenters not reprimanded for laughing at Mr Farage being assaulted?

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      • BRISSLES says:

        Can you imagine those same BBC idiots laughing today at a real comedian ? e.g. Bernard Manning ? er, no. I cant remember him ever having suggesting throwing battery acid at anyone. No, they would be the first to accuse him of all things ‘unacceptable’ every time he opened his mouth.

        Jo Brand comedian ? not in the same league.

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        • TrickCyclist says:

          Brissles,
          Big Bad Bernard on OTT, the late night version of Tiswas. He has a totally un-PC dig at Sir Lenworth Henry. Both Henry and Chris Tarrant deem it necessary to show their disapproval by covering their faces. This is 1982 – early virtue signalling?
          (FedUp2 – is it OK to link this? Contains material likely to offend.)

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  8. Beltane says:

    Actually, I feel wracked with guilt. All this fuss and to-do about Jo Brand’s little quip and we appear to have overlooked – callously, I might add – the painful fact that Ms Brand evidently speaks from experience.
    The attack must have taken place some time ago and the liquid involved fortunately not too harshly corrosive, but it has nevertheless left its mark. Under the circumstances I feel we can only wish Jo a heartfelt ‘Get well soon!’

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    • Dystopian says:

      She thinks throwing milkshakes is pathetic.
      What a waste. Or is it what a waist?

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      • Not Gwent says:

        “She thinks throwing milkshakes is pathetic.”

        This is not unlike what a lady guest said on This Week. They started with and spent 2/3 of their answer attacking Farage before criticising the humiliation by Sky employee.

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  9. JamesG says:

    How about this for double standards:

    Jo Brand talks about throwing battery acid at people. Carl Benjamin says he “wouldn’t even rape” someone.

    They’re both in bad taste, but Carl Benjamin’s comment was about not doing something.

    Danny Baker’s post involving a monkey was very tame compared to Jo Brand’s comment.

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    • Dystopian says:

      The left decide what is funny and what is acceptable and what should be legal or not. The tail wags the dog.

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      • Not Gwent says:

        “The tail wags the dog.”

        State Broadcaster is a well funded tail. It’s a wonder the dog can still occasionally bark.

        It must be a wonder political choice to work for The State Broadcaster party. No boring elections – just enjoy the money and power.

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        D
        “The tail wags the dog.”
        Dock the tail, cut off its blood supply (c£4.7 billion PA), watch the tail curl up and die.
        Video the process, so we can all re-enjoy the death at will.
        Killing the, far left, treasonous, BBC must be high on the Brexit Party Swamp Draining legislation.
        When completed it will be one the best tasks ever performed in the UK.

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    • gb123 says:

      The beeb are probably thinking ahead with Jo Brand. They have probably got her booked and paid in advance for all the crap quizzes and topical shows we don’t watch. They would have to find some other SJW wally or revive Ben Elton to take her place and deprive the higher ups of their Champagne budget.

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      • JimS says:

        Who will ever forget her expertise on ‘Bake Off’ and the ‘Countryfile Calender’?

        (They didn’t even have the excuse of ‘comedy’. The ‘Wandsworth Whine’ rather grates on the ‘beyond the M25’ ear.)

        I think someone has been truthful on ‘wiki’:
        “Josephine Grace Brand (born 23 July 1957)[1] is an obese, unfunny English comedian, writer, presenter and actress”

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  10. LastChanceSaloon says:

    The thin blue line, protecting us.
    Wikipedia “Rotherham is a town in South Yorkshire, England …”

    I can no longer find a link this.
    “Yorkshire police sold guns, handed in during an amnesty, to criminal gangs. Not jailed”

    2013-07-01
    https://forums.theregister.co.uk/forum/1/2013/07/01/cops_tried_to_gloss_over_database_snafu_that_lost_over_9000_firearms/
    “Yorkshire Plods lose 9000 guns in rogue BOFH database blunder”

    2018-05-14
    https://www.southyorkshire.police.uk/find-out/news/2018/may-2018/firearms-duo-jailed-for-28-years/
    “Firearms duo jailed for 28-years” [Non police criminals.]

    2018-09-11
    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1015960/south-yorkshire-police-twitter-non-hate-crime
    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7226742/south-yorkshire-police-force-report-insulting-comments/
    “South Yorkshire Police asked people to report ‘non-crime hate incidents'”

    2019-03-28
    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/disgraced-police-officer-demanded-money-14198708
    “Disgraced police officer demanded money from hotels to give free advice about guns”
    “While working for North Yorkshire Police, Paul Duffield “moonlighted” as a private guns consultant”

    2019-06-13
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-birmingham-48615274
    “West Midlands Police advertises unpaid forensics jobs”
    This is not Silent Witness, but looking at photographs.

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  11. Thoughtful says:

    The ten traiterous Tory MPs who last night voted with the Labour party because they;d rather Jeremy Corbyn was in power, and yet the useless inept cowards at central office doesn’t want them deselected (one is Grieve), nor will they remove the whip from them.

    Guto Bebb
    Ken Clarke
    Jonathan Djanogly
    Justine Greening
    Dominic Grieve
    Sam Gyimah
    Phillip Lee
    Oliver Letwin
    Antoinette Sandbach
    Caroline Spelman

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  12. Dover Sentry says:

    “” Nigel Farage accuses Jo Brand of ‘inciting violence’ after comedian says ‘throw ACID at politicians instead of milkshakes’ “”

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/9279794/nigel-farage-jo-brand-inciting-violence-acid-not-milkshakes/

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  13. Dover Sentry says:

    “”Corbyn Being Sued In High Court””

    https://order-order.com/

    Anti-semitic remarks. Allegedly.

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  14. G.W.F. says:

    Once a year the coal miners hold the Durham Miners Gala. Long ago proud miners marched with banners behind the brass bands representing each colliery. It was an impressive ocasion.
    This year it continues and among the leading speakers to recall the pride and passion of a once great industry includes the following. Hopefully Jon Snow will be looking at the white faces in the crowd.

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  15. Guest Who says:

    To be fair, the BBC has it hands pretty full avoiding actual news at the mo.

    https://ukmediawatch.org/2019/06/12/hizballah-london-explosives-story-not-newsworthy-for-the-bbc/

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  16. Dystopian says:

    Mike Graham (Talk Radio) inviting calls to discuss Jo Brand’s so called “joke”.
    A caller has just commented that Jo used to be a psychiatric nurse and therefore ought to know full well that some people with mental health issues will be open to suggestion.

    0344 4991000

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    • honestus says:

      Dyst,
      I remember the laugh along reaction not to long ago when Farage was ‘shaked’. How the good and righteous laughed at such an innocent wheeze. And how it was such a laugh, others, emboldened, have carried on with the ‘joke’ ever since, ‘shaking’ a plenty. Now stakes have been upped, but it’s still a wheeze and a jolly. Stand well back and prepare to ‘laugh’ Beeb.

         28 likes

  17. andyjsnape says:

    BBC defends Jo Brand! you couldn’t make it up

    Above the law and loads of red tape to justify its acts

       34 likes

  18. Helen Richardson says:

    Now I understand where I went wrong several years ago when my car broke down. Never having been technically minded when it comes to cars, I phoned the AA and was told that my battery was probably dead – perhaps it had dried out. I walked to a nearby McDonald’s and bought a couple of strawberry milkshakes and poured them into the top of the battery (I thought I’d heard this tip on Top Gear), but it made no difference whatsoever. Perhaps I should have used banana? I couldn’t understand the howls of laughter from the mechanic when I told him what I had done.

    Now I understand that battery acid and milkshakes are not the same thing after all. It seems to be a common mistake.

    I’m not going to tell you what I’ve been putting in the screenwash.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      “I’m not going to tell you what I’ve been putting in the screenwash.”

      What do you think bus drivers have been known to do at ‘turnarounds’ lacking toilets?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Helen, next time you are at the supermarket it’s a halved potato wiped over the windscreen when the wipers fail and banana, preferably somewhat aged – and maybe with a banana milkshake as you are fond of milkshakes, I can tell – but in the gearbox when it is low on oil. Old Rally Service Team tricks, so I’m told. 😉

      Maybe what you put in the screenwash would have done better in the battery …. well, … it contains some acid …. maybe not the ‘whole sulphuric nine yards’, if you get my opposite lock sort of drift, maybe not SULPHuric unless you had an egg or two for your tea but alkaline it aint. 🙂

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      • Helen Richardson says:

        Nah – having made a fool of myself I’m leaving such things to my Other Half in future. He has a diesel VW and runs it on chip oil from the deep fat fryer. He’s from Yorkshire so he lives on chips and the economy, not to mention the avoidance of Fuel Excise Duty, appeals to him.

        He still has to find a use for mushy peas though. I suggested that they might decorate Jo Brand’s face rather well.

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  19. Dystopian says:

    Whittling down the Tory MP’s. Results shortly.
    Bit pointless as they will all be voted out eventually.

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  20. Dystopian says:

    114 for Boris.

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  21. Dystopian says:

    Harper, Leadsom & McVey out.

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  22. Dystopian says:

    Wait for the BBC to crank up the anti Boris rhetoric….

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  23. Doobster78 says:

    Like Dyst says …Every single member of BBC staff now looking at Boris’s past life with the finest of fine tooth combs !!!

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    • Not Gwent says:

      The rolling headline (in the screenshot) about the attacked ships is more news worthy imho.

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    • G says:

      Doob,
      As a protem Conservative Party member I can’t wait to have my two-pennyworth final vote. But should I? It appears that the de-selection of our Dominic Grieve voted for by local members is being overruled by central office. So why should I run the risk (or even effort) to vote?
      If the events over the last few years is not enough to demonstrate that so-called, “democracy” is an absolute fiction, I really don’t knwo what is.

         20 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Jeremy Hunt 43.

      Boy, I hope not?

      I smell a rat.

         10 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Doobs, “Every single member of BBC staff now looking at Boris’s past life with the finest of fine tooth combs !!!”

      Boris may be OK, then. Have a feeling that he doesn’t do combs, fine-toothed or otherwise.

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  24. Fedup2 says:

    I’m surprised Sir Lenny didn’t refuse the honour on the grounds of tokenism . The racial tribe thing he expounds shows his own racism .
    Metrocracy and colour or gender don’t really go together
    At the moment the BBC is lamenting that a woman is no longer in the Tory election thing – we’ve just suffered 3 years of having a trail tour in charge of the country – did it matter that she was a white female ? No .

    apropos nothing – John major thinks closing parliament until the 32nd of October is unconstitutional – when it isn’t .

    I think it would be great – all those MPs – living in tents on college green outside the Palace of Westminster – accompanied by the freaks shouting ‘no brexit ‘ around the clock .

    And lastly
    I dearly hope Alex Boris Johnsonivich does not talk to the Press , no interviews , nothing . There is nothing to gain . And it’s only about getting away from the ReichEU on 32 October . Nothing else matters …

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    • Not Gwent says:

      Meanwhile the ‘White Saviour” Comic Relief row rolls on…

      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/newsbeat-48619934

      …Dooley looks old enough to know that sometimes you can’t win.

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      • The Sage says:

        Yes, let’s patronise Africans by sending slebs to the Dark Continent where, apparently, only poor people live.
        It’s just not true.

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    • vesnadog says:

      Fed,

      On BBC TV news this-aff, was a Tory MP (can’t remember his name) talking to some female BBC reporter and just as they begin to talk in the background one could clearly hear some loud mouth chanting: Stop Brexit, Stop Brexit.

      Call me stupid, but I thought – funny?

      Its as if the BBC team deliberately waited for this gentleman to get closer to the Mic then as the Tory MP opened his mouth – Stop Brexit, stop Brexit …Really loud.

      It sounded like the voice of that remain saint who we see every day outside parliament.

      Clearly, BBC HQ head quarters HQ gave this guy a ring telling him to get round to such and such a place… there you will find one of our reporters waiting for you; don’t worry though, we will ask the reporter to wait until you arrive before we ask the questions.

      Then: Stop Brexit, stop Brexit very loud.

      We’ve missed these BBC tricks afore but not any longer.

      This guy was just over the left hand side of the Tory MP. Just feet away.

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  25. Dover Sentry says:

    Sky News:

    “”Theresa May calls on BBC to explain why Jo Brand battery acid joke was broadcast””

    “”Now the prime minister has stepped into the row, with her spokesman saying: “The prime minister has consistently said politicians should be able to campaign without harassment, intimidation and abuse.””

    “”It is for the BBC to explain why it was appropriate content to broadcast.””

    https://news.sky.com/story/jo-brand-bbc-defends-comedian-over-battery-acid-joke-11740902

    Can’t find this on the BBC News website yet. Strange, that. Perhaps it’s an oversight?

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  26. Terminal Moraine says:

    Not BBC but from Oxford Union Debating Society a month ago — “This House Believes That Justice Has Been Done: Shamima Begum Head-to-Head” with Begum’s greasy apologist lawyer Mohammed Akunjee arguing against the propostion.

    According to EU counter-terror figures from 2017, up to 25,000 Islamist extremists who could pose a threat are in the UK. Sadiq Khan was forced to admit the same year that hundreds of jihadists were not being tracked upon their return from Syria.

    But here’s Akunjee being given a platform at Oxford University to laugh at the reality of the situation:

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      “The idea that our mature security service cannot deal with a 19yr old girl is laughable”

      “up to 25,000 Islamist extremists who could pose a threat are in the UK”

      Do want us to find that laughable as well , you taqiya addicted Islamic ****?

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  27. Dystopian says:

    What I want to know is;

    If the Brexiteers in parliament actually want to leave, then why aren’t they talking about the ongoing Robin Tilbrook case and backing the view that we have already left?
    If Nigel Farage’s ultimate goal is to get out of the EU, why isn’t he shouting about it?
    If Julia Hartley Brewer (Talk Radio) is a true Brexiteer, why isn’t she shouting about it?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Dystopian, there can be times when it is wise to go quiet on something because to do otherwise might stir up some really clever opposition. It is why I’m sort of comforted every time the Beeb roll Al Campbell and Andyosinuous (before his sudden Damascene conversion to Brexit) and Blair and Cable onto Radio4 to say a ‘Horrocks’ to Brexit, because Brexiteers can imagine a digital counter racking up more and more decent, fair-minded Brits converted from Remain to their Brexit cause.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Dystopian

      Good question indeed. Something is starting to make sense. For these people, leaving is something to happen in the future. And with UKIP out of the way they are controlling the Brexit train.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        G.W.F., I was late to TWatO, turning on the radio @1.15pm approx but someone was talking about Brexit and the Tory leadership race. It sounded a bit like Steve Baker MP but don’t think it was. Didn’t catch the name. Think the Montacutie was quite keen to get him off air.

        This contributor was very blunt. IIRC but paraphrasing, he said the bulk of Parliament is pro-Remain. Probably most of the Tory leadership candidates are either inclined that way or are committed to bodging Brexit into remaining in the EU, both in order to keep Party colleagues on-side. (may have got that bit wrong but listen again if you want to check.) They think by constantly delaying the departure date remaining in the EU may sort of just happen, that we (the public) will become more comfortable with the idea in time.

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        • G.W.F. says:

          Up2snuff

          Another thought hit me – these Brexiteers have all dropped discussion of immigration, which was widely supported when UKIP, led by Farage, was engaged in the referendum debate.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            G.W.F., you are right and Conservative Woman has a writer, Kathy Gyngell, who has also picked up on that. The BBC post-Referendum on R4 were keen to aid any Remainer who would come on and state that Brexit voters were racist (Vince, for example) xenophobic (Vince, again, for example) and against immigration. (Yet more Vince, again, oh joy.)

            Conservative Party policy is to have quite widespread immigration (can’t think why with our UK graduates unable to find suitable jobs, 1.3 million unemployed and attempts to reduce the Benefits part of the UK Budget foundering somewhat) but I think the leadership candidates are wise as to how the MSM will now pick up on any reference to it.

            It does, of course, also link any candidate back to Theresa May’s famous words of the past. Another good reason to stay off the subject?

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  28. Dover Sentry says:

    Daily Mail:

    “”Stars including Jeremy Paxman and Michael Palin join Ben Fogle in blasting the decision to axe BBC-funded free TV licences for 3.7m over-75s as charity’s petition tops 410,000″”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7136559/Stars-including-Jeremy-Paxman-Michael-Palin-line-blast-licence-fee-decision.html

    Not a good week for the BBC is it? 🙂

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    • cromwell says:

      Uptostuff and theleftwilleatitsself I just want to say thank you for the useful information you posted on start the week. Just read your reply to my post about giving up my TV licence. Thank you both.

         9 likes

      • theleftwilleatitself says:

        You are welcome cromwell 👍

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      • Up2snuff says:

        cromwell, you are very welcome. Congratulations on taking that step. This year I’m £2000+ better off (even at the rate in force in 2005) and I wish you similar in time.

        Perhaps we ought to have a side bar on the BiasedBBC Home Page with a quick clicky to reach advice on going Legally Licence Free? (Un)stuffing the BBC 😉 you could say, coffers-wise.

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    • Not Gwent says:

      They’ll laugh it off; they always do

      [Dover] (blasting the decision to axe BBC-funded free TV licences)

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    • vesnadog says:

      D,

      Wish Lineker would back pay it for the pensioners – he could afford to – from the mountain of cash he’s received from the licence payer.

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  29. vlad says:

    Al beeb defend Jo Bland on the grounds that she was just being ‘deliberately provocative’ and not meant to be taken seriously.

    So that’s ok then.

    Well if it’s deliberately provocative you want, I think Jo is a nasty unfunny fat ugly old slag. Ugly face, ugly body, and ugly mind.

    Just kidding.

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  30. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Not BBC.

    https://order-order.com/2019/06/13/rory-stewart-promises-bring-boris-prorogues-parliament/#disqus_thread
    “Stewart has promised to lead a coup, setting up an alternative legislative chamber if Boris prorogues Parliament in
    order to deliver what MPs overwhelmingly voted for when they triggered Article 50.”

    What a C**tservative, I thought.
    Then I saw in the comments below, a suggestion which might give Grieve, Starmer (especially), Cable and Co, Coronary Infarctions.
    So I am sharing it with my friends on BBBC.

    “From John Andrews
    Proroguing Parliament until 31st October will mean months of inactivity and lots of possible pitfalls.
    It would be quicker and more certain for the new PM to instruct the Government’s lawyers to cease defending
    the Robin Tilbrook case.

    They are likely to lose it anyway, as the wording of Article 50.3 does not allow for multiple contingent exit dates
    or repeated postponements. May and the EU Council exceeded the authority that Article 50.3 gives them to extend the two year period.

    Then we will have been out since 29th March. We can even ask the EU for the money we’ve paid them since then.”

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  31. StewGreen says:

    3:30pm David Vance coming up on Skynews
    to talk about Jo Brandgate

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  32. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    Boris obviously learning from President Trump.

    Ignore the lefty media and do the bare minimum.

    What they don’t get from you, they’ll make up shite anyway.

    That horrible harridan that looks like Looby Loo on Ecstasy – Beth something – on Sly News simply embarrassing herself.

       34 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      T,

      “Beth something ”

      I know, I couldn’t believe it when she got the job.

         11 likes

      • Captain Panick says:

        Beth Rigby. Sky News had her doing adverts for them a year or so ago. It featured her picking up a cup of coffee, fresh from the ‘ Barista’, in a claw like manner over the top of the cup. The cup had a handle, but she ignored that. How she proposed to drink through her hand, I had no idea. Part of the Armed Forces Officer selection procedure involved being observed during dinner, such as the correct use of a knife and fork, not slurping the soup, etc, etc. Beth Rigby would have not lasted the pre dinner drinks.

        As an aside, just seen Rory Stewart, demanding, demanding I say, that Boris does what he tells him to do. Scruffy Urchin, went to Eton, and spent a few months on a SSLC in the Black Watch. Looks like a soup slurper to me, who rests his elbows on the table.

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        • taffman says:

          Rory ‘The Remainer.’
          “Rory Stewart threatens ‘alternative parliament’ to avoid no-deal Brexit”
          https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/13/rory-stewart-threatens-alternative-parliament-to-avoid-no-deal-brexit

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          • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

            Taffman
            I think I read that this strange looking bloke has admitted to opium use. I don’t remember if he claimed it was a one-off like Bill Clinton’s spliff that he never inhaled.

            Anyway back to Rory. Many years ago (for my sins) I used to interview people for the dole. Many a time I’d hear a sorry tale from the local smackheads as to why they’d made no appreciable effort to find a job in the previous fortnight.

            You can tell these poor souls by their dead eyes, twitchy manner and the fact they have aged well beyond their years. Their faces are deeply lined and have a deathly pallor.

            If odd-bod Rory was in front of me now, signing-on, I’d have to advise him it was a bit beyond his capabilities to lead a political party, and should perhaps start out with some voluntary work in a charity shop, and then work his way up from there.

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  33. Cassandra says:

    “I am sick to death of overpaid, left wing, so-called comedians on the BBC who think their view is morally superior.”
    Nigel Farage

    Is the penny beginning to drop about the BBC’s agenda?

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    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      What a terrible week it has been for our beloved state broadcaster. 👍
      First off the over 75’s license fee row, then Jo Brand and the acid ‘joke’ and now I see the Stacey Snowflake comic relief debacle still hasn’t gone away.
      My local shop is running out of popcorn 🍿 and there are still a few days left.
      Oh and could someone please tell me how in God’s name Al beeb could put a positive spin on a women’s world cup game that ended 13-0? 🤔 Ten goals in one half 😆

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  34. Fedup2 says:

    Theleft,
    You can add some more dismal MSM news to that
    9%yoy fall in c4 news viewing figures ( because of Brexit ) ; C4 staff moaning about having to move out of London to Leeds ….. getting better …
    And
    The independent and the London evening news losing a defamation case in the House of Lords – which if the damages are substantial enough might kill both off . Drain it .

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  35. Guest Who says:

    With boosters like Sean blowing BS up their orifices, the BBC should stay nicely complacent.

    https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/336958/fake-news-is-a-concern-but-why-pay-when-quality-i.html?

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  36. Guest Who says:

    As Trump at last gives BBC N. America a lifeline to ‘report’ upon via twitter as they dare not mention ‘trouble at t’mill’, the rest of the BBC excels elsewhere as only the BBC knows how…

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  37. davylars says:

    Wonderful moment on R2 Jeremy whine show today.
    Some bloke hijacked a question to mention the Jo. Brand incident.
    You could feel Jeremy cringing about the fact this guy brought up the subject and he cut him off almost straight away, but the damage was done… brilliant.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Vine said something like
      ‘we are getting a lot of of people saying we are doing a *conspiracy* not to cover Jo Brand
      .. but we have to do this Boris Johnson coverage today cos its in the news, perhaps we will cover it another time’

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      • Not Gwent says:

        “we have to do this Boris Johnson coverage today cos its in the news”

        I’d thought State Broadcaster was the news? BJ has another couple of rounds to go with MPs before the membership gets a go.

        Presumably even Brand isn’t stupid enough to dream acid another politician? Even Loose Women found time to discuss this ‘burning’ issue.

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  38. Fedup2 says:

    Having looked at S1 1 of the malicious Communications Act – now that the PM has asked the BBC for an explanation – it looks like there is a case to answer by both Ms Brand and the NBC with regard to using acid instead of milkshake .

    I can’t find a satire defence or humour defence so it appears that the police , CPS and judge have a job on their hands .
    Meanwhile other former BBC employees remain asked for putting a picture of 2 people with a monkey chimp ape or whatever on the inter web .

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    • StewGreen says:

      Jo Brand’s 2010 caustic joke
      ‘They say the quickest way to MAN’s heart is through his stomach,
      ….. I say it’s through his ribs with a bread knife.’

      … is that mysandrist ?
      It’s free speech its satire, just like he sneer at Farage
      I think neither break the law.
      However if a fragile mind keeps hearing the one sided Radio4 shows laughing at milkshaking , that person might be led to milkshaking a righty themselves.
      Multiple people went to punch Tommy in the street
      .. they were driven to by the febrile atmosphere that libmob land have created against him.

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      • Not Gwent says:

        “It’s free speech its satire, just like he sneer at Farage
        I think neither break the law.”

        Baker’s monkey tweet didn’t break any law yet he was sacked on the spot.

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        • StewGreen says:

          That’s the whole point the double standard

          plus one sided media creates people who are prepared to punch at Tommy and milkshake the right.

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          • vesnadog says:

            S,

            “who are prepared to punch at Tommy and milkshake the right”

            The London milk-shakers are probably financed by Soros. That way it keeps him close to his beloved BBC fans.

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      • RobRoy says:

        These lefty twats started all this crap by reporting people to the police for saying something they didn’t like – so I say let’s play them at their own game. Let’s see how they like that, eh :0)

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      • RobRoy says:

        These lefty twats started all this crap by reporting people to the police for saying something they didn’t like – so I say let’s play them at their own game. Let’s see how they like that, eh :0)

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  39. StewGreen says:

    ITV Calendar local news had a 5 minute for their Jo-Cox Corporation prog at 7:30pm
    That’s why her sister Kim Leadbetter is all over the place
    She also did Loose Women earlier.
    ..If it wasn’t for Jo Brand it would be full on against Brexit people like F/T/S Farage, Tommy Sargon

    ‘The way we talk to each other seems so vicious and toxic’
    : Jo Cox’s sister on UK becoming angrier since MP’s murder.
    is Britain even angrier and more divided than three years ago?

    https://www.twitter.com/ITVTonight/status/1139138485556842501


    Jess Phillips will be playing victim

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    • StewGreen says:

      The prog has put out an incredible 10 to 12 tweets
      there is ONE featuring a non-lefty

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    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      The lefty twats have brought all this present anger/toxicity/hatred about by their refusal to accept a democratic decision. So don’t go on television bleating on about blah, blah, blah 🤥

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Kim & ITV asks “‘The way we talk to each other seems so vicious and toxic’ : Jo Cox’s sister on UK becoming angrier since MP’s murder. Is Britain even angrier and more divided than three years ago? ”

      I think the answer is no, if anything I think the opposite is true. I think the country is becoming more quietly determined and is coalescing around the decision and desire to be out of and away from the EU as soon as possible. Of course that doesn’t suit the MSM so they persist with this sort of propaganda.

      The danger is that the 18-35y.o.s who voted Remain in 2016 are now 21-38y.o.s and have moved on in career and apathy or political maturity or realistic view of the world and might not be such enthusiastic Remainers, if at all.

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      • Dystopian says:

        I didn’t know Rachel Riley was Jewish or that she has been subjected to anti semitism. She is rather easy on the eye though.

           8 likes

        • StewGreen says:

          You’ve been under a rock ?
          … not my type

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        • Demon says:

          It came up a couple of times on Countdown, just like with Barry on Eggheads. If she’s Jewish and well known in the current atmosphere she will almost definitely have been subject to anti-semitism.

          I wholeheartedly agree that she is easy on the eye though.

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      • vesnadog says:

        Up,

        “The danger is that the 18-35y.o.s who voted Remain in 2016 are now 21-38y.o.s and have moved on in career and apathy or political maturity”

        Fully agree with you.

        One of my Nephews used to be a foaming at the mouth radical lefty some 3 yrs ago but over the last 3 years his views and also his dads views have completely changed especially after noticing how Bias the BBC lie machine has/is now behaving. Today both are staunch conservatives and treat with suspicion everything coming out of The EU and the namby-pambies in the UK MSM/House of commons.

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  40. Thoughtful says:

    Jo Brand is a foul individual and has been for a long long time, however she did what people on the right appear incapable of doing – refusing to apologise.

    We all know the Tories are spineless cockroaches, and even when the remarks Brand made are open season they’re still far too cowardly to condemn her, they are utterly useless.

    We need far more people on the right to stand up to the Fascist left as cowardly Johnson should have been about his mildly critical coments about extremist Islam.

       29 likes

  41. Celtic_Mist says:

    I didn’t know this

       22 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      I’m always suspicious when only MPs of one party are counted.

         19 likes

      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        NG
        “I’m always suspicious when only MPs of one party are counted.”

        I am always suspicious of anything involving any MPs, especially suspicious when it is MPS and Money.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I think you will find that all MPs claim their multiple TV licence fees back from the taxpayer – home – second home – office – Second Office . Why pay for anything when you can get the taxpayer to pick up the tab?

      All those hard working supporters of democracy will be claiming expenses for the alt parliament with Rory Stewart as the new Bercow

         10 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      It’s the Mirror
      when is it dated ?
      … December 2018
      So it’s being used now as #WhatAboutery

      AFAIK you get a job as the culture minister,
      and your accountant says “you need to watch TV, so I’ll add it to expenses to claim off tax”
      ..Lots of business people are doing the same e.g. journos, and TV reviewers etc.
      An MP who didn’t claim this expense would have £150 less to donate back to his political party etc.

      I have found evidence of a couple of past Labour MPs doing it , I suspect more do.

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  42. Guest Who says:

    Who needs democracy?

       23 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      From the link ‘A citizen’s assembly would bring together people from all walks of life, helping them to bridge divides and find common ground to develop recommendations that can command public support.’

      Recommendation isn’t quite control. Even Labour aren’t so stupid as to vote themselves out of power.

         9 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        NG, so they are suggesting an alternative Parliament.

        Something that some of us are recommending as an alternative to the present over-bloated House of Lords. A Citizens (more correctly, Subjects) Assembly would not then threaten the standing of the HoC. The only power it would have would be to say of anything passed in the HoC ‘We think this unwise or unacceptable, please re-visit it.’

        It could suggest things for legislation or action but that would be taken in the Commons, maintaining that Chamber’s superiority.

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        • Not Gwent says:

          Up2snuff imo the House of Lords should be closed.

          How would the subjects (needed to populate an assembly) be chosen? Whilst the power to slow the HoC is not at the same level as the current revising legislature; it is still power. The wider population would be entitled to a Benn test and ask ‘how can I get rid of you’?

             7 likes

        • Banania says:

          Didn’t Rory Stewart threaten to found an alternative parliament, or was it some one else?

             0 likes

  43. Dystopian says:

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/06/13/calls-licence-fee-be-scrapped-over-75s-row/

    It’s not going well for the BBC. Folk are seeing them for the hypocritical greedy self serving twits that they really are.

       25 likes

  44. tapwatertory says:

    If I could add my opinion on the Jo Brand acid debate.

    I have no problem with what she said.

    What I have a problem with is the double standards.

    Make a JOKE about grenfell and you’re in front of the court.
    Make a JOKE about teaching a dog to do a nazi salute and you’re in front of the court.

    Carl Benjamin had trial by the bbc and Victoria Derbyshire because he made a JOKE.

    As someone once said ‘you’ve sown the wind now reap the whirlwind’.

    My message to the bbc is this;

    Please carry on, we’ve got your number and our numbers are growing.

       51 likes

    • Celtic_Mist says:

      Tap, I could care less about what Brand said but it is the BBC trying to defend her that is the real crime. Bit like Deryshire’s excuse that ‘only men usually say that’ or Nixon where it was the cover up that got him!

         9 likes

      • tapwatertory says:

        NAIL THE ON HEAD HIT THE.

        Anyone who can guess the correct phrase wins an all inclusive holiday to east london.

        “terms and conditions do apply”

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  45. Dystopian says:

    “Tonight” now on ITV. “Angry Britain. Beyond repair?”
    Saint Jo Cox tribute.
    “The rise of extremism” blah blah blah.
    They’re all as bad. BBC, ITV, SKY.
    All the same agenda.
    I wonder if they will be talking about leftist extremism, milk shaking and incitement to throw battery acid at politicians?

    Unbelievably they are referring to Carl Benjamin and his refusal to apologise for saying he WOULDNT rape someone.

       29 likes

  46. theleftwilleatitself says:

    Grenfell grieve-a-thon tomorrow, if they have a minute’s silence they’ll be taking the piss 😲

       18 likes

  47. tapwatertory says:

    Not bbc.

    Lamposts in my area are a advertising a meeting for extinct rebellion, funded by the socialist workers party.

    I’ve never seen a socialist who is a worker, too busy telling workers they shouldn’t be working.

       30 likes

  48. Doobster78 says:

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  49. StewGreen says:

    BBC spits in your face again
    8pm BBC1 Would I Lie to You?
    a REPEAT ..another *Far Right* edition
    with Ed Balls, Jo Brand

       10 likes

  50. StewGreen says:

    Double Standard : JRM vs Newman
    “oh I’m not running for office”
    .. neither is JRM in the Tory leader election

       22 likes

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