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I win
I demand another vote on your supposed victory, Casey.
And I demand one on yours. You clearly didn’t understand the complexity of the issue.
vlad,
And can we open out the debate to all other contributors on the site to facilitate collectively condemning Justin’s factual 1st win as mere speculation? All together, we can then achieve, “some people say”………..
I am consulting my expensive lawyers to sue those who claimed victory because they wrote lies on the side of a bus in order to win.
Justin
You obviously voted by post …????
Clearly Justin didn’t know what he was posting for.
The next time some eco-loon goes on about how most of the world’s scientific societies support the global warming crap, you can’t quote from this damning account about these professional bodies ‘selling out to climate change’
https://principia-scientific.org/sciences-untold-scandal-professional-societies-sell-out-on-climate-change/
Makes for some chilling reading on how the socialists have played the long game in taking over the original environmentalist movement for their own ends.
Rob,
“…..how the socialists have played the long game in taking over the original environmentalist movement for their own ends.”
This is the Globalist Marxists at work. ‘Global Warming’ is synonymous with a, ‘global solution’.
I’m not sure how the movement of millions of third wolders into the first World can help. Earlier this week we were told by the UN (WHO) that there is a (developed) World epidemic of diseases that were contained until the mass movement of the same third worlders accelerated. Strange that another department of the UN disclosed this in conflict to the ‘open borders’ for so-called, ‘refugees’ and economic migrants facilitated by the UN Migration Compact. Don’t these Globalist Marxist people talk to one another?
RR & G, think that was blindingly obvious from the targets and the order, from 1990 onwards, in which they were attacked:
Oil companies – big consumer = USA
Cars – big manufacturer, big user = USA
Nuclear power – leading researcher and developer (3 Mile Island notwithstanding) = USA
Aircraft – leading manufacturer and big consumer = USA.
Prior to the 1990s, the environmental movement was fairly benign and could be said to have some worthy aims (conservatism exaggerated?) but it was obvious once the Berlin Wall came down that Communism had to find a place to hide. Cuba & parts of Africa could not nurture it on their own. It chose the environmental movement as a good place to hide.
One of my responses to the hysterical climate changers is how is it that all these hotel chains keeping building, and getting insurance cover to build, these fabulous hotels in the Maldives. Aren’t they supposed to be under water in like 10 years?
It’s all very well having these over earnest fools being seduced by the latest ‘crisis’ but it’s telling that when it comes to money and paying out, clearly the insurance underwriters have no belief that there will be a Waterworld any time soon.
To be fair there are so many ways to put down an fervent environmentalist. Alex Epstein has some great material on this and his book the Moral case for fossil fuels looks to be an awesome piece of work – just need to find the time to read it!
Pbn, then there all these ‘World Cups’ expanding everywhere – and often played at night time, where extra lighting is required. I’m not getting at Wimmin here or the Wimmins World Cup, well, OK I am a bit, but if it really is a Climate Emergency to go with the other two: AGW & CC, then doing this sort of thing is completely stupid.
For example, expanding the men’s footie tourney with extra teams (48, instead of 32, I think) and having it hosted by up to three nations (rather than one) with all the extra long distance travel required, not just for the teams, not just for the fans but also the massive media circus and all their technology, it really does give the lie to the whole global warming and climate ‘thing’.
If it was really a serious problem, then FIFA either would not be allowed to do it by its biggest member nations or the UN or somesuch or would have the wit to work out that maybe an over 50% increase in emissions from a few footie games, even if only every four years, is definitely not a good idea.
Meanwhile in Paris, FIFA are discovering that scheduling a Womens World Cup for soccer during the cricket, tennis and even more importantly, the Tour de France & Le Mans ‘season’ was not a smart idea.
I know we all knew she was going to do it, but I did think Mrs May’s resignation was more important than a wife murdering her husband or Labour’s win at Peterborough. How far down the running order of the BBC news at 10pm BBC1 on Friday night, I cannot say as we turned over to see police chasing cars in Selby. I can only hope she doesn’t do any more damage before she goes.
Deb
May resigned ? Who ? Why? She was doing such a great job too ….
Do we really have to be reminded about how great Labour are and how Corbyn will sweep into Downing Street in a landslide victory which will be the best thing to ever happen to this country since Blair became PM in 97?
A new twist in the ever more complex war of the sexes:
“‘Straight pride’ group removes Brad Pitt as mascot after backlash.”
His replacement is to be… (drumroll)… the one and only, irrepressible… MILOS!
(The Grauniad don’t know what to make of it all. They feel they ought to sanctimoniously condemn something, but not quite sure what.)
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/jun/07/straight-pride-brad-pitt-milo-yiannopoulos
Brilliant sentences, there, vlad:
“The Grauniad don’t know what to make of it all. They feel they ought to sanctimoniously condemn something, but not quite sure what.”
That phrase should make it into the Biased BBC lexicon.
Who?
A brief doodle on President Trump’s visit
The BBC reports that mickey Gove has been user of Bolivian marching powder . The wonderfully awful Rory Stewart has admitted to using heroin .
I have no doubt that the only reason these characters admitted being druggies was because their rivals had done background checks . I suppose Boris will admit running a cannabis farm next.
Well I have make my own admission – I have never used supplied or sold controlled drugs . Now I know this disqualified me from being next PM but it was a silly mistake I made when I was younger .
Truly the red Tories deserve to be in the political dustbin of history.
Declaration – I am currently taking drugs – for a cold –
After thought -perhaps MPs should be drugs tested . ? It will be interesting to monitor the amount of silence from other politicians about these career ending admissions
I drank a bottle of Gold Label Barley Wine in 1974, Fed. Will this preclude me from being prime minister? I didn’t swallow the crusty bits though.
In my defence, I was young and foolish and my brain was probably starved of oxygen because of my high platform boots.
Cass
I’m afraid your political career is as dead as Annie Soubry . I never had oxygen trouble with my high platform boots though …
I just think it is rich that the people happily admitting abusing illegal pharmaceuticals are the ones making the laws .
“I never had oxygen trouble with my high platform boots though … ”
Shorty.
“I drank a bottle of Gold Label Barley Wine ” … wow! strong stuff that! All the rage in those days (nostalgia)
“US-Mexico talks: Agreement to avoid tariffs reached, says Trump”
BBC News (world) US section reporting (selected) facts whilst making their opinion clear in images. (A variation on revolving placards). A foreign propaganda entity interfering in support of the Democratic party
Celtic
I wonder what it must be like living in a country where a senior ( non ) politician makes a promise before being elected and then delivers on it when he gets power ?
Maybe that s what being a ‘ nazi’ is ?
It will be interesting watching the BBC’s leadership debate with the Conservative hopefuls. Who will ask the questions? Will anyone be interrupted? What are the rules or will they be BBC rules?
Boris Johnson looks like a very likely figure to become PM but these leadership challenges can turn nasty and the BBC will no doubt try to get involved in bringing down the candidate that they like the least.
My money is on some extreme bias as who ever wins will be our PM and i somehow think that the BBC will not like the result
Smoogie
I could care less but I would insist on every one involved being subject to compulsory drugs tests -particularly maitless …
Perhaps the reason most beeboids can’t stop interrupting replies in interviews is because they are all takers of Class A pharma .
I would suggest the same for the BBC’s selected audiences as well. What are the odds that the audience would be from Labour remainers who will boo at the Brexiteers?
You know, brought in for balance of course!
Smoogie, can you name any Conservative PM that the BBC did like ?
They should have liked Theresa May as she was more down their level but even then they preferred Corbyn over her. Funny really as Corbyn is against any second referendum which the BBC would love.
Isn’t Studly Rory a bit of a BBC crush?
For some reason.
Oh and if anyone takes notice of these things, which the BBC will not, the turquoise party are ahead in two of the most recent polls:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
Why would anyone vote for a Party which hasn’t even got a manifesto ? – a standard BBC question which shows how out of touch the state broadcaster is…
… if any one comes up with a list of constituencies ranked by postal voting I d be obliged … I would like to know if there is a correlation with third world residence …
Is that the party that was close to winning Peterborough had it not been for a few shifty postal votes?
F
“Manifesto”
Most of them should be printed on Izal.
F + s7
“Postal Votes”
These must become illegal, our enemies from 5 million BC are cheating, as they are required to, by allegedly infallible sources.
What we need is major political reform. “manifesto”. What a horrible communist-sounding word for something political parties don’t live up to. Just saying.
Fed
A more pertinent question may by “why would anyone vote for a party with a manifesto when its sole object would appear to be that of appeasing its grass roots supporters in the full knowledge that it will later be totally ridden roughshod over by the executive of the party whenever expedient”.
Foreign interference?
From The Guardian:-
For Amjad Iqbal and Shabina Qayyum, two Peterborough councillors, the result highlighted the importance of Labour support in the Asian community. “I would say the Muslim vote played a vital role in Lisa Forbes’s success,” Iqbal said.
He said the circumstances surrounding Onasanya’s removal from office had come up on the doorstep, but the party had been able to distance itself from her case. “A lot of people said they were disappointed in Fiona’s action and that they weren’t going to vote for Labour. But we said look, that was her personal action, the Labour party has no responsibility or control over it.”
Iqbal enlisted the help of his cousin Shoukat Farid, a politician in Kashmir, who had been in Peterborough campaigning since 31 May. Farid said lots of Kashmiri people in the constituency knew him and he hoped he had helped to get out the Labour vote.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/07/labour-peterborough-win-locals-react-lucky
Perhaps the future of city politics is that the Labour Party will put up an ‘acceptable ‘ face who is actually elected with fraudulent – industrial – postal voting . It gets around the lack of English language issue as well as the inconvenience of constantly pregnant muzzie Wimmin having to get off their backs to go and vote … without their ‘husband ‘ standing behind them
Politicians seem to be reluctant to control voting fraud and the idea that there is something wrong with someone being required to produce evidence of identity to vote is ludicrous .
Trying collecting a parcel from the Post Office without producing ID when you get to the front of the queue .
I think it just best to do away with postal voting . If it’s important enough to a person to vote then physically go and do it – and show your identity .
Drain the drugged up swamp
My theory is that once a percentage of the registered electorate – say 5% – request postal votes then that should trigger a suspension of postal voting in that constituency. Areas such as garrison towns etc could be given exemptions.
It seems the majority of the postal votes cast in the Peterborough election came from Tower Hamlets !!
Fed ,
I have a postal vote as I am never in my area on a Thursday .
Maybe the Brexit Party should have a campaign to get all lorry drivers that are away to apply for a postal vote as I’m sure most of them would vote Brexit . That could actually be in the hundreds of thousands.
Get other trades (like fishermen ) that are affected by the EU to get postal voting .
Lets hoist the political parties with their own petard .
Nibor
I elect for a postal vote in Londonistan because I can’t be bothered to drive / walk to the Polling Station .
If the State took my postal vote away id do my best to physically visit the polling station . I am out of UK every month so it is chance . Personally if I knew that there was no postal voting fraud I d be happier than not being able to vote .
I say this because at the moment there is no one as Right that I agree with so have to put up with third rate nonsense like overseas aid , third world social care and the NHS bottomless pit .
I see the Brexit Party Candidate for Peterborough is taking action over the Labour party telling lies about him.
Wow! Labour telling lies? They’ve never done that before, how could he have expected such a thing?
It would be more useful if he would ask for a closer look at the postal voting system. In fact is there any party that has the guts to question it? Or better still promote a policy to reform it?
I agree we are at the stage where postal voting has to be stopped apart from obvious exceptions such as service personnel abroad.
Everyone keeps telling us we can only change things through the ballot box, but this appears not to be the case for one reason or another.
How the Brexit Party deal with the ‘Peterborough issue’ will determine their future success, or lack of. If they dare to even publicly acknowledge the elephant in the room they will be pilloried by the state. So will they kowtow and appease, or genuinely turn out to be a force for good?
We are told it’s the oldies who vote for leave (TBP in this case)
Postal voting is usually given to the older and infirm, usually pensioners.
I don’t know why younger fit people need a postal vote.
Given the above, how is it that labour (remain/second referendum in a majority leave Peterborough) got 5,000 of the 6,000 postal votes.
Are the Peterborough pensioners the only ones who are remainers or are there organised blocks of fake votes.
Can they only fiddle certain votes such as Peterborough or South Thanet because if they go to fiddle a whole GE of votes somebody might talk.
It’s a pity we have no newspaper willing to investigate these votes or try to get somebody undercover to expose the fiddling and rigging.
EG
I think the ‘ labour activists ‘ have postal vote filling sessions for the vast numbers of third world names in the system – whether the people are actually those with the name is another question .
Hence the need for I d. Perhaps UK could get advice on fraud prevention from India of Pakistan …send for keef Vaz!
Fed up.
ID would be quite comical.
If the eyes are the only human part visible.
They would get very angry (how surprising) if they had to remove the face covering. No doubt the lefties would rise up against the infringement of human rights and our ‘right on’ politicians would support them.
It’s the niqab v the motorcycle helmet argument and we all know who wins every time.
EG – Unless you are a Sikh.
maybe help with a passport anyone?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/1137609.stm
Not only postal votes
A teller told me of a story he saw a person enter the room get allocated a whole fistfull of proxy votes then emerged from the viting booth more than 20 minutes later.
Read in the Telegraph today.
% of total votes cast for Labour = 31%
% of postal votes cast for Labour = 86%
and
70% of labours vote was postal votes.
If this is true no doubt the Electoral Commission will be investigating. (ha ha)
If those figures are correct then:
8,533 voted by post (all parties)
7,334 voted by post for Labour
3,150 voted in person or by proxy for Labour
Well the figs aren’t right are they
Emmanuel Goldstein didn’t tell us which page of the Telegraph
he could be quoting a readers comment
“70% of labours vote was postal votes.”
bet it wasn’t
I’m guessing that is a misquote of
‘ of postal votes the total TURNOUT was 70%’
ie 30% of postal voters didn’t send in their form
On Twitter i see
“Peterborough Council returning officers counted just under 6,000 valid postal votes from a total of 33,920, a 17.7% proportion.”
If this magic 86% claim is true that would make 5,160 postal votes for Labour ..about half their total
The official results page makes no mention of postal or proxy votes
https://www.peterborough.gov.uk/council/elections/election-details/
Glad someone else is pointing this out.
17.7% is close to the countrywide average. Comments in the DT quoting the (just under) 70% figure for Labour’s postal votes are absurd, even if fraud is involved. A moment’s thought would make them realise that this was turnout, and 70% would be about right for that.
Bad losers grasping at straws don’t do their cause any good.
Easy to see why PISA ranks this country in the low 20s for Maths and Reading.
Oh just be clear, the teller’s story was from a previous election in Bradford
(not Peterborough)
It’s obvious some postal voting fraud went on in Peterborough. I can see that, why can’t the electoral commission see that? Or maybe they have. It only took Gordon Brown to raise an objection about funding and the electoral commission rushed to the Brexit Party at breakneck speed to investigate so if there are complaints about the large number of postal votes in this by election surely they should investigate. It can’t be just one sided. (I notice BBC silent about this) I’m thinking of putting in a complaint to the electoral commission and hope others do too to see what they do. I did read on Twitter of the same feelings and the need to make a complaint. If this is allowed to continue and it is waved through can you imagine what this means when we have more by elections or a general election. As a subscriber mentioned yesterday the voting system in this country will turn into a 3rd world one.
cromwell – that does mean that all of us on this site are obligated to write to the Electoral Commission, as well as to our own MP’s, and express our misgivings. It’s pretty clear that the system is wide-open to abuse.
We just state the facts in numbers. We don’t mention suspicions about any particular group abusing postal votes – tempting as that may be.
Fakenewswatcher.. yes I agree with you just state facts of postal voting numbers and hope they join the dots.Lets see how quick off the mark they are if they get numerous enquiries.
From the Petition website: “The Electoral Commission has warned that it was concerned about 16 council areas in England, including Birmingham, and has launched a study into concerns that some communities are particularly susceptible to electoral fraud.”
Which would those, “communities” be then I wonder?…………….
Well, the Electoral Commissions 2018, “Voter Identification Pilot Schemes” covered five areas. https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/find-information-by-subject/electoral-fraud/voter-identification-pilot-schemes
I only had to look at the first one, Bromley, to understand the extent and depth of the “Pilot” for that area. Judge for yourself when comparing with the demographics for Bromley.
http://localstats.co.uk/census-demographics/england/london/bromley
I went no further but would suggest that the other four areas’ demographics were similar to Bromley. So these Pilots were applied where islam and Pakistan doesn’t have a strong presence. Useful.
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/electoral-commission-media-centre/reviews-and-research-to-keep/postal-and-proxy-voting-pilots-test-efforts-to-tackle-electoral-fraud
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/electoral-commission-media-centre/reviews-and-research-to-keep/postal-and-proxy-voting-pilots-test-efforts-to-tackle-electoral-fraud
It really is quite something isn’t it ? A constituency where the MP was convicted ! Imprisoned ! Refused to resign ! Was released early , caste a deciding parliamentary vote whilst being monitored ! .
Then was forced out by a vote .
Then a bent bi election .
Even the very basic legitimacy of the presence of an individual as an MP is forfeit – yet alone the corrupt drugged up anti democratic parliament which I am always banging on about to destroy .
Oh Oliver Cromwell. Where are you ?
Up2 -perhaps we should have taken this up with mr Bercow.
We know hat an extremely fair, impartial and unbiased speaker he is. a person of honour and integrity, the the little twerp, with delusions of grandeur…
Gary Lineker nailing his colours to the mast . Remember, all views his own and not that of the BBC !!!!! (Insert laughter)
Doob,
Sorry, look at the state of it! Shabby and incoherent. Another waster.
Honours List
OBE to Daniel Snow “Journalist, Historian and Presenter. For services to
HistoryPropaganda”Another thing that needs scrapping.
Anyone else get a Nobel Prize for Peace in their cornflakes box this morning ?
One neighbour got an award ‘for doing his job’
The other got an award ‘for being a winner in sport’
At school there are no losers cos everyone gets an award.
In the real world the whole of the ‘metro liberal establishment class’ get an award.
Gammon climate-skeptic awarded MBE ?
BAMEEN stands for Black & Minority Ethnic Environment Network- Hull
Its work & website has been dormant for a couple of years
“Yorkshire’s stalwarts named in Queen’s Birthday Honours”
Dawda Jatta gets MBE
\\ Mr Jatta came to the city in 2006 from The Republic of Gambia and said it looked just liked the University brochures he had seen, and wanted to maintain that cleanliness//
\\ “When I started this project in 2013 I didn’t know anything about this, I was just doing something I was passionate about.”//
ah he switched to “As a Big Energy Saving Network (BESN) champion, over the past three years he has consistently produced excellent results, exceeding targets set for outreach”
.. so he is basically doing a job getting people to switch energy providers, with this government outreach prog thru NGO’s
\\ The Big Energy Saving Network (BESN) is a £1.7 million programme jointly funded by the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) and National Energy Action (NEA) to support eligible third sector organisations and community groups deliver help and advice to vulnerable consumers //
216 pages of gongs for the swamp .
Only jealous cos you are not a Yorkshire Stalwart
thru having being in the country 13 years
and having started a BAME NGO 6 years ago
I you had started the Gammon Environmental Network you would have been knighted by now ?
And the bbc could leave its politics at the door. Who knows?
My natural curiosity wonders how the Brexit Party’s recruitment is going after the Peterborough By-Election result.
Will the BBC be equally curious, will they send a reporter to try to find out and, if so, will they report honestly without bias and making any other comment that might be beneficial to another Party?
I wonder . . . ….
Interesting.
Guest Who
How did storm trooper face respond to this?
Predictable. If in itself, ironic.
We need a Fox News UK. ASAP.
At face value it would seem hypocritical of Hannity to say that a politician calling for an opponent is like a banana republic as he supported Trump’s call for Clinton to be locked up. However, the difference, and it is a big difference, is that Trump has been investigated over and over again and no evidence of any crime being committed by him.
However, Clinton was lightly investigated and proof of her crimes were manifold, showing she should actually be locked up. But she was let off because she was a Clinton, or because she is a “Democrat” or because she’s not Trump. Or a bit of all three. Whereas they believe Trump should be locked up for winning the election in 2016.
As regards the Constituency of Dunny-On-The-Wold, also known as Peterborough…
If The Brexit Party had a criminal history of electoral fraud to match the Labour Party, and had ‘won’ the Peterborough by election by 680 votes, would the BBC be clamouring for an investigation?
Would they?
DS, the BBC would certainly assist all those clamouring for a re-run of the election on the basis that ‘the By-Election was divisive’ and ‘people did not know what they were voting for’ and ‘old racist people voted for a white candidate’ and ‘it wasn’t a clear result by 65% or 75% majority’.
And the Labour loser would say that this result didn’t match what she was told when canvassing on the doorsteps of voters.
Well, that’s it then…
TBP needs to tackle this. It certainly needs to be tackled before the next GE. Always the Labour Party at the centre of Electoral Fraud and racism.
The candidates and their teams would have been at the count. It is up to them if they wish to challenge the result.
Tactically, it may be better for TBP not to do so. By accepting the result of democracy (with all its faults) TBP start to really show up all those who will not accept and still fight against the result of the EU Referendum.
Just look at the trouble that Ann Widdecombe has brought on herself for an unwise public statement and the trouble that some people (the BBC included as far as R4 are concerned) are trying to bring to Dominic Raab by misrepresenting something he is supposed to have said.
TBP might be better engaged in starting to think about a manifesto and running careful checks on the membership prior to candidate selection in the event of no Brexit and a General Election.
U2s
“think about a manifesto”
It should be written by now, full speed ahead.
A general election could happen anytime, given the confidencethe voters have in our MPs.
Problem with a new Party, LCS, is not only weeding out the Fifth Columnist & opposition plants & spies early on, you then have to start sorting out the people who carry the manifesto to the electorate, ie. the candidates and their constituency teams.
Prior to that there is more sorting to weed out the no-hopers, then find and weed out those with skellingtons as well as wellingtons in their closets, before you reach the point where you have 650 squeaky clean candidates R.T.R..
Then you can sort out your Party management structure and procedures or do that at the same time as everything else. Rolling eyes upward Emoticon here!
Only then you can really start to create a manifesto in discussion with all candidates and constituency teams. It is a colossal task.
I suspect UKIP struggled with all these areas and looked what it did to them with all sorts of in-fighting, literally hand-to-hand as far as the MEPs were concerned together with leadership battles.
Anything on Al Beeb about Labour’s latest problem?
https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/labour-party/news/104405/jewish-labour-movement-calls-party-suspend-new
Yes, it would have been on the BBC…if it had been anti-Semitism in The Brexit Party.
This from the outfit that chose to headline an antisemite with dubious campaign support ‘sees off’ the evil challenge to the Labour/BBC landslide victory.
http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/06/boris-boris-boris-bias-bias-bias.html
BBC Editorial Integrity is a thing of wonder.
What do you make of the modern Conservative Party?
It’s not that long ago that “Dave” struggled to deny he’d ever used cannabis.
Now there’s a list of candidates queuing up to reveal their penchant for hard drugs.
We’ve had that wild man of the Cabinet, Mickey Gove, telling us he used coke…and not the sort that comes with added sugar.
Rory Stewart has let us into his heroin secret. I’ve got to be honest and say that looking at those gaunt features, hollow eyes and listening to his ramblings, I’m hardly surprised. More to the point, has he actually come off it?
Do you think we’ll hear any more secrets as the candidates try to up their street cred?
Andrea Leadsome likes the occasional spliff?
Esther McVey dabbled with LSD?
Matt Hancock ran an underground drugs den in Cheshire before joining Parliament?
Something I really don’t want to see is an interview with Boris’s chum, the eloquent Jacob Rees Mogg. Opening his front door, wearing ridiculously loose, baggy strides, a Stomzy T shirt and a back to front baseball cap. Instead of his usual , impeccable English, Jacob has affected an awful Jafaikan drawl. “Dat dumb bitch had three years, man. She did fxxxing nuttin’. Know wot I mean?”
Sorry, it’s been a really long night. Lack of sleep.
I’m hallucinating.
I hope…
Brilliant post, Jeff. Can we sign you up for a regular one, every Saturday?
Jeff
Keep hallucinating – Matt Hancock running a drugs den ? Priceless – that’s the character who uses his disability as a badge of pride – dyslexia –
I’m real sorry but do I want a dyslexic PM who looks like he should still be wearing his school cap and satchell ….
Jeff,
” More to the point,”
I thought you said: “More to the joint”
I’m definitely hallucinating.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48564995
For sixty years or more now, when UK Governments are in trouble (especially Conservative Party ones) they attack ‘the motorist’.
Just love the photo the BBC Picture Researcher chose for the header pic. They obviously didn’t think too carefully about the subject of the article. Good old BBC – at least they give us a chuckle.
Now what has American Beauty been up to, journalistically?
No change there, then.
Call me old fashioned, but don’t you think the headline item in the Times, that Labour MP Dame Louise Ellman has requested the suspension of Peterborough’s newly enthroned Lisa Forbes, pending an investigation for anti-Semitism, might qualify as news on the BBC?
This thread looks interesting.
I bet Rog, Dave And Justin will be all over it.
Or not.
Some of us can remember the time when two-fifths (a.k.a. 40%) of the world’s population went to bed hungry at night, only having had one meal in the day. Now, it is only a fraction of that large fraction.
For sure, as Ben Pile observes, malnourishment or hunger may well be increasing in certain places but the cause is not supposed warming but war and political conflict.
Turned on R4 this a.m. in middle of piece that was talking about Maduro’s military running a narcotics business in Venezuela. Have been trying to find a reference to it on the BBC w-s but my ISP is running chronically slow at present.
Nothing on BBC w-s here:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-48559739
That’s a disturbing thing about BBC, patchy news across their three platforms these days. You would almost think they were trying to enhance confusion, not reduce it.
Looks like another diversionary tactic.
It’s clearly ‘ours’.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall#Ownership
I think that’s so hypocritical of the Scottish Government. They say they are desperate to stay in the EU, but if they get their wish they will have to accept that boats from other parts of the EU (e.g. Irish Republic) will have to be allowed to empty the fish stocks from “Scottish” waters. And there will be nothing they can do about it.
Come on SNP, join the Brexit movement – you know it’s the right thing to do.
Evidence emerges of Michael Gove’s bizarre behaviour with mysterious white powder under his nose…
….he claims he didn’t inhale 😉
Rory Stewart’s claim to occasional dalliance with heroin seems unlikely. Looks to me as though he’s been mainlining since early teens.
Newswatch: I’m sure State Broadcaster man implied that negative Trump coverage reflected the fact that ‘many’ were opposed to the President.
I wonder if an editor had totted up and obtained a negative/positive ratio and balanced output to suit?
Does State Broadcaster apply a similar approach to covering EU matters? It would be wonderful had there been, for example, a national referendum result to readily read the balance from?
News watch is just pointless now. Shame really. The far left BBC person they wheel out to answer the criticism just tows the party line “we think everything was fair and balanced” . ……every ruddy week.
For once, wouldn’t it be nice if they just held their hands up and admitted, looking back , they may have got something wrong.
The episode after all the cliff Richard court case (when he won) and the BBC bod STILL defended the coverage was just infuriating.
The BBC NEVER admit they get anything wrong !!!
“It’s worse than that, Jim”
https://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/06/complacency-thy-name-is-james.html?m=1
Hideous. Plus blazer.
Jon Snow would need a lie down.
For those who like to watch Trooping the Colour without Huw’s ‘commentary’, it is on bBC Red Button from 1030 with natural sound (however, not in HD).
HETEROSEXUAL MAN WALKS AROUND STREET IN FRONT OF CHILDREN WITH PENIS IN SMALL SOCK … PERVERT!
HOMOSEXUAL MAN WALKS AROUND STREET IN FRONT OF CHILDREN WITH PENIS IN SMALL SOCK … LIBERATOR!
This little boy is not keen on liberation
Politicians … use words like candy and have no consequences.
Actors … repeat the words produced by other people like candy and have no consequences.
Solider … stands in front of real bullets to ensure the above can pass out candy.
Remoaners keep on saying that we leavers didn’t know or understand what we were voting for, you know, when we were asked to either stay in or leave the eu.
It happened yesterday on Politics live.
The politicians readily accept the GE results.
Does everyone who votes in the GE understand everything their voted for party has in its manifesto (I know they are meaningless)
Do labour voters all understand changes in business taxes.
Do all Tory voters understand pension reform.
Do liberal voters understand anything at all.
Same for the referendum.
We voted with the knowledge, as in the booklet everyone received, that we would leave the eu and all its institutions (ecj, cm, sm and so on)
Short of making everyone pass an exam to be allowed to vote showing they understand every aspect of every manifesto we will all have our differing levels of knowledge of party promises.
If we now know more about the eu and are able to make a better choice then in another 3 years we will know more than today and in another 3 years after that more still….ad infinitum.
We were at least as knowledgeable about what we were voting for in the referendum as we are in any GE so please, anyone on tv, point this out on the leftie shows like QT, politics live and all the others.
EG
Since the referendum we are better informed.
I have watched the EEC/EU gravy train for fifty years, knowing where the terminus is for fourty of those years.
Totalitarian dictatorship, by a politburo who have been lying about their intentions for every day of those fifty years.
Assisted by lying Traitors posing as Conservatives, by the Press, by the BBC, by big business, by QANGOs, by so-called charities.
Corruption and waste on a multi-billion Euro annual scale.
Millions of Leave voters made the decision to leave before UKIP was even founded.
Didn’t know what we were voting for?
The Remainers have been peddling this large lie for three years; only because they are exceptionally low IQ individuals who lack the ability to evaluate and recognise a weak “argument”. Are you listening you thicko losers?
Freedom.
I remember at the time that the BBC sent Jeremy Paxman to one of the top Schools in London expecting the Remainers to win in a debate. But it turned out that the Brexitters won the debate saying to Jeremy that they won because they used the debate to inform those who didn’t know or understand EU governance. A local school also produced a victory for the Brexiteers using the same tactic of informing the ignorant. This implies that people who voted Remain are ignorant, the young being more ignorant than the older generation due to spending less time learning about the EU. This also implies that ignorance of European Union governance is essential for Remain supporters in any future referendum. I think to pass an exam on EU governance to be allowed to vote would produce a Brexit Party landslide. The exam should also include Britain’s Customs Union deficit and the WTO trade surplus and equivalent standards of living data with those nations which did not enter the EU.
Richard, I’m constantly finding people who voted Remain who do not know the facts about the EU and simply trot out received memes and MUMs (Modern Urban Myths).
The curse has struck again! ‘You can no longer edit this comment.’ with over 9 minutes left.
I give up.
EG, happened again on Any Questions. I was brave enough to listen to the repeat so we had the tired old claim ‘that both sides lied’ from the SNP panel member. Dimbleby did not point out the latest news re the Remain claim of a £350m p/week lie being chucked out of Court.
The Bumblebee’s Chairing declines in quality from week to week. You wonder why they bother with questions from the audience. Why not just have questions from the Chair and Panel members can debate with the Bumblebee.
Love this one:
“ “We are concerned that allegations of Islamophobia will be, indeed already are being, used to effectively shield Islamic beliefs and even extremists from criticism, and that formalizing this definition will result in it being employed effectively as something of a backdoor blasphemy law.” — Open letter signed by 40 British academics, writers and public officials to Home Secretary Sajid Javid.”
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/14351/britain-blasphemy-law
“Home Secretary Sajid Javid”. Er, isn’t he one of the muslims charged with being the one of that cult to ‘shield’ his co-cultists?
How the BBC say there is no bias is staggering. Make you’re own mind up if BBC Emily likes President Trump or not ????
“He’s not liked at all here” !!!!!!!! Look at the hatred in her face.
You Emily , are a DISGRACE.
Sorry if done already …I only was made aware earlier today.
Loved the Dead Ringers line in first prog of new series, something like: “And now Newsnight with Emily Maitlis with legs polished to the shine of a new conker.”
Postal vote fraud? Now what could all these towns and cities have in common I wonder…
Cass,
The biggest problem is that these people increasingly see themselves as being exempt from, ‘our laws’. Quite right too: the police are there merely to embolden them. It won’t end well.
C – Looks very similar to a map of the mass gang rape areas.
Online Petition:
“Stop Postal Votes except for the elderly and disabled”
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/258370?fbclid=IwAR2vxxS2F-B054W2cve-YfRQYPLcWaZVxdy8Mow_2oCeHILHkhqB58MCMks
The proxy voting system is just as open to abuse and should also be checked. The people who verify should be more independent. Large families with “close” relatives. We are all one big happy family. Right?
“You can ask anyone to act as your proxy – as long as they’re registered to vote and they’re allowed to vote in the same type of election.
You can be a proxy for 2 people at the same election, or more if the extra people are close relatives.”
https://www.gov.uk/apply-vote-proxy
Why does an air of pessimism descend when the idea of restricting or cancelling the postal vote system is mooted?
Because the queues of human rights lawyers would look like rush-hour in downtown Karachi.
Although tempted to sign it, I have some reservations. There have been times when I have been away from home (e.g. on training courses) at the time of elections and have had to apply for one-off postal votes. A snap general election may be called for a date when you have already booked a holiday.
I think that if a postal vote is required it has to fulfil a genuine requirement, such as illness or infirmity, unavoidable absence from your constituency. Officials should be appointed to witness all genuine postal votes being cast in hospitals or care homes etc., but not the actual vote of course. Those who are fit, but planning to be absent, should make themselves available at an agreed earlier date so they can vote in a similar way to going into a polling boothwith officials witnessing the act.
This would be more difficult way to do it but would get rid of 95% of suspected fraud. Also anyone who votes, at a polling station or in any of the other ways above, should have to prove identity – passport with picture would be a start.
On a different note, not something you will see on the BBC or, for that matter, any other organ of the MSM;
https://www.manhattan-institute.org/green-energy-revolution-near-impossible
N
https://www.cato.org/publications/commentary/reverse-handmaids-tale-just-horrifying-get-facts-straight-population-growth
“A Reverse ‘Handmaid’s Tale’ Is Just as Horrifying — Get the Facts Straight on Population Growth.
By Chelsea Follett
This article appeared in USA Today on April 24, 2018.”
If you wish to read some scientific tract, full of careful arguments, without any unproved or disprovable assertions, with numerous citations to its contents …..
Do not read this load of nonsense.
I was reading the BBC New report on the US / Somali police officer shooting dead the unarmed Australian woman in her pajamas.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48562834
Part of the report about his family and supporters claiming that he was the victim and that giving him a prison sentence was a racist act. ( Where have I heard that before?)
Then I spotted this link underneath the report.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/help-41670342
“Research shows that, compared to other broadcasters, newspapers and online sites, the BBC is seen as by far the most trusted and impartial news provider in the UK .”
The arrogance contained in this statement is breathtaking.
Was just checking out Emily Maitliss Twitter feed to see if could try and gauge if she was Leave or Remain. Sorry, my error, its BBC so it’s Hard Remain or ultra remain !!!!
I found she had retweeted this earlier in the week.
https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1136608367181537280ow
I would counter this and say , how have all those big names, so far, got it SO WRONG !!!!!
The tweet appears to have been deleted?
No it hasn’t Doobster did an error by having two extra letters at the end
Tar Stew !!. For the life of me, I couldn’t work out what was wrong !! Thanks
The problem the BBC has with fleas:-
https://theweeflea.com/2019/06/08/the-bbc-and-christianity-article-in-june-en/
XR splits in two
boss Farhana Yamin says a July 1st Heathrow shut down is violence
boss Roger Hallam says it isn’t.
Farhana is new to me. A founder too? Rog is just Wolfie Smith’s nasty ponytailed creepy uncle. That today’s world of academe hosts this clown comes as Zero surprise.
This 14 minute video update of the Robin Tilbrook Brexit case is interesting in that, in my understanding of what is being said in the video, the state and the MSM are preventing us from knowing that the case is in progress and that it has a good chance of succeeding.
militant humanist and CofE gangs take over prisons
Times explained that Muslim only sections helps radicalism from being spread
and that “jails within a jail” already exist
Also Muslims are 3 times more common in prison than they should be since they are only 5% of population.
\\ There were 13,008 Muslim prisoners in England and Wales at the end of March, about 15 per cent of the total jail population. At the end of last year 175 prisoners were serving sentences for terrorist offences linked to Islamist extremism.
In some top-security jails the proportion of Muslim inmates was higher. About 42 per cent of Whitemoor prison in March, Cambridgeshire, and 31 per cent at Long Lartin in Worcestershire were Muslim. Three “jails within a jail”, known as jihadi jails, had been set up to house up to 28 subversive and proselytising Islamist inmates.//
TimesComments are different cos not everyone can comment only paying subscribers
Some praise Tommy for insight
Janice Atkinson MEP has previously called UK government weak
and said we should have our own Guantanamo Bay for terrorists
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/muslim-gangs-beat-prisoners-who-will-not-convert-to-islam-gcb8nb2md
Under a Brexit government, Britain’s identical equivalent to Guantanamo Bay for Islamic terrorists would be called Episkopi Bay. A military detention camp could be set up for Islamic terrorists located in the Middle-East British Military Base & Overseas Territory of Akrotiri.
Forgive me Richard – but do you think any UK government – in current circumstances – would officially set up such a base ?
And if a base was ever authorised – would nt it be in the Falklands ? Or a nice protectorate somewhere in the middle of the Pacific – say Pitcairn ? It would have to be a big island to detain the threats to Blighty happily living off and breeding in Britain ?
I fancy Ascension Island (nice and remote).
Fed up.
Lots of free space at Chernobyl.
The UK government officially set up such a base in the 1960‘s. Its just that it hasn’t got a detention camp. Britain’s only Overseas territory which is 100% a military base is Akrotiri and Dhekelia on the island of Cyprus, its already used by Britain as its main Middle-East military base. But the Falklands and Pitcairn belong to the inhabitants with only the Falkland Islands with a military base on it. The Falkland Islanders only want the military base to be used to defend the Falklands against Argentina. Episkopi Bay is to Guantanamo Bay as Cyprus is to Cuba as the British military is to the US military. Its almost an identical set up but without a detention camp.
Thanks Richard – there must be some god foresaken lump of rock in the uninhabited bit of the Falklands the Penguins wouldn’t mind sharing? Wouldn’t be cheap but it would be safe ….
It’s off BBC but important .
Grenfell Towers as a location springs to mind.
It’s available, centrally placed and secure. Start the cells on the third floor and there would be no escapes.
The Grenfell grieve-a-thon officially starts this Friday I believe! Will there be a minutes silence AGAIN?
RP
Java, Sumatra, or other Indonesian Islands.
They would be welcome there.
What isn’t mentioned here is the number of prison staff who may well be related to Islamic inmates …. I understand many local prisons employ local people ….
Total prison population about 85000? The followers of the false prophet sure do sin …
Former SNP MP turned to to crime after leaving office
stealing from foodbank charity etc.
https://wwe.twitter.com/DVATW/status/1136607521903382530
correction
Oh dear, Ann Widdecombe loses the gay vote with a little help from the msm screaming homophobia at her.
She rightly calls the furore ‘liberal tyranny’.
And the beeb are delighted to front-page Gove’s little encounters with cocaine. Ironic given that hacks are well-known for their widespread use of the stuff. Allegedly.
Stew
The SNP creature could at least gone to the bottom rung like stealing from a hospice . Can you imagine that people actually trusted rubbish like that …..
Dumb BBC wasted money by making it’s operations bases in central London and putting on a £4.5m free bus
..now it’s been cancelled.
Remember folks, these people don’t want any fuss , don’t want to draw attention to themselves(so they keep telling us), they just want to be viewed as “normal” in society.
Ummm !!! Ok
Diversity: A person with surgically removed Male body parts, but with a Woman’s brain. A Brain that such people do not usually want removed due to a “Bias of Will” towards removing other body parts within such a brain.
While there is an element of truth in what Dawkins says, age qualification is the fairest (and easiest to administer) way of deciding who can vote. Just as for the age restriction laws on buying tobacco and alcohol, having sex or getting married, it is best for the individual and for society as a whole to have clear and unambiguous rules. I like Dawkins when he talks about evolution but I often feel that away from the lab and his microscope this impractical ivory tower figure doesn’t quite understand real people or how societies work. He seems to have an antipathy towards customs and traditions that have stood the test of time. He dismisses them if they appear superficially silly or illogical and has no real curiosity about what human needs they may be expressing or meeting. He often seems to arrogantly believe that an idea that just occurred to his superbrain five minutes ago must be more sensible than the accumulated wisdom of the ages.
Zelazek, Dawkins has the outlook of fundamentalist. His creed could be summed up as ‘There is no god but evolution and Darwin is his prophet’.
While I wholeheartedly accept evolution, I never take anything he says about the world seriously. A man with a mind so closed who cannot be of any use outside his own particular field.
If anybody wishes to disagree with me on that that’s fine. I am always willing to look at evidence that contradicts what I believe, unlike Mr Dawkins.