Weekend Open Thread 8 June 2019

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  1. Justin Casey says:

    I win

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  2. RobRoy says:

    The next time some eco-loon goes on about how most of the world’s scientific societies support the global warming crap, you can’t quote from this damning account about these professional bodies ‘selling out to climate change’

    https://principia-scientific.org/sciences-untold-scandal-professional-societies-sell-out-on-climate-change/

    Makes for some chilling reading on how the socialists have played the long game in taking over the original environmentalist movement for their own ends.

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    • G says:

      Rob,
      “…..how the socialists have played the long game in taking over the original environmentalist movement for their own ends.”
      This is the Globalist Marxists at work. ‘Global Warming’ is synonymous with a, ‘global solution’.
      I’m not sure how the movement of millions of third wolders into the first World can help. Earlier this week we were told by the UN (WHO) that there is a (developed) World epidemic of diseases that were contained until the mass movement of the same third worlders accelerated. Strange that another department of the UN disclosed this in conflict to the ‘open borders’ for so-called, ‘refugees’ and economic migrants facilitated by the UN Migration Compact. Don’t these Globalist Marxist people talk to one another?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        RR & G, think that was blindingly obvious from the targets and the order, from 1990 onwards, in which they were attacked:
        Oil companies – big consumer = USA
        Cars – big manufacturer, big user = USA
        Nuclear power – leading researcher and developer (3 Mile Island notwithstanding) = USA
        Aircraft – leading manufacturer and big consumer = USA.

        Prior to the 1990s, the environmental movement was fairly benign and could be said to have some worthy aims (conservatism exaggerated?) but it was obvious once the Berlin Wall came down that Communism had to find a place to hide. Cuba & parts of Africa could not nurture it on their own. It chose the environmental movement as a good place to hide.

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    • Payne by name says:

      One of my responses to the hysterical climate changers is how is it that all these hotel chains keeping building, and getting insurance cover to build, these fabulous hotels in the Maldives. Aren’t they supposed to be under water in like 10 years?

      It’s all very well having these over earnest fools being seduced by the latest ‘crisis’ but it’s telling that when it comes to money and paying out, clearly the insurance underwriters have no belief that there will be a Waterworld any time soon.

      To be fair there are so many ways to put down an fervent environmentalist. Alex Epstein has some great material on this and his book the Moral case for fossil fuels looks to be an awesome piece of work – just need to find the time to read it!

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Pbn, then there all these ‘World Cups’ expanding everywhere – and often played at night time, where extra lighting is required. I’m not getting at Wimmin here or the Wimmins World Cup, well, OK I am a bit, but if it really is a Climate Emergency to go with the other two: AGW & CC, then doing this sort of thing is completely stupid.

        For example, expanding the men’s footie tourney with extra teams (48, instead of 32, I think) and having it hosted by up to three nations (rather than one) with all the extra long distance travel required, not just for the teams, not just for the fans but also the massive media circus and all their technology, it really does give the lie to the whole global warming and climate ‘thing’.

        If it was really a serious problem, then FIFA either would not be allowed to do it by its biggest member nations or the UN or somesuch or would have the wit to work out that maybe an over 50% increase in emissions from a few footie games, even if only every four years, is definitely not a good idea.

        Meanwhile in Paris, FIFA are discovering that scheduling a Womens World Cup for soccer during the cricket, tennis and even more importantly, the Tour de France & Le Mans ‘season’ was not a smart idea.

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  3. Deborah says:

    I know we all knew she was going to do it, but I did think Mrs May’s resignation was more important than a wife murdering her husband or Labour’s win at Peterborough. How far down the running order of the BBC news at 10pm BBC1 on Friday night, I cannot say as we turned over to see police chasing cars in Selby. I can only hope she doesn’t do any more damage before she goes.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Deb
      May resigned ? Who ? Why? She was doing such a great job too ….

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    • smoogie7 says:

      Do we really have to be reminded about how great Labour are and how Corbyn will sweep into Downing Street in a landslide victory which will be the best thing to ever happen to this country since Blair became PM in 97?

         31 likes

  4. vlad says:

    A new twist in the ever more complex war of the sexes:

    “‘Straight pride’ group removes Brad Pitt as mascot after backlash.”

    His replacement is to be… (drumroll)… the one and only, irrepressible… MILOS!

    (The Grauniad don’t know what to make of it all. They feel they ought to sanctimoniously condemn something, but not quite sure what.)

    https://www.theguardian.com/film/2019/jun/07/straight-pride-brad-pitt-milo-yiannopoulos

    AACxleD.img

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  5. ScottishCalvin says:

    A brief doodle on President Trump’s visit

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The BBC reports that mickey Gove has been user of Bolivian marching powder . The wonderfully awful Rory Stewart has admitted to using heroin .

      I have no doubt that the only reason these characters admitted being druggies was because their rivals had done background checks . I suppose Boris will admit running a cannabis farm next.

      Well I have make my own admission – I have never used supplied or sold controlled drugs . Now I know this disqualified me from being next PM but it was a silly mistake I made when I was younger .

      Truly the red Tories deserve to be in the political dustbin of history.

      Declaration – I am currently taking drugs – for a cold –
      After thought -perhaps MPs should be drugs tested . ? It will be interesting to monitor the amount of silence from other politicians about these career ending admissions

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      • Cassandra says:

        I drank a bottle of Gold Label Barley Wine in 1974, Fed. Will this preclude me from being prime minister? I didn’t swallow the crusty bits though.
        In my defence, I was young and foolish and my brain was probably starved of oxygen because of my high platform boots.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Cass
          I’m afraid your political career is as dead as Annie Soubry . I never had oxygen trouble with my high platform boots though …

          I just think it is rich that the people happily admitting abusing illegal pharmaceuticals are the ones making the laws .

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        • oldcrone says:

          “I drank a bottle of Gold Label Barley Wine ” … wow! strong stuff that! All the rage in those days (nostalgia)

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  6. Celtic_Mist says:

    “US-Mexico talks: Agreement to avoid tariffs reached, says Trump”

    BBC News (world) US section reporting (selected) facts whilst making their opinion clear in images. (A variation on revolving placards). A foreign propaganda entity interfering in support of the Democratic party

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Celtic
      I wonder what it must be like living in a country where a senior ( non ) politician makes a promise before being elected and then delivers on it when he gets power ?
      Maybe that s what being a ‘ nazi’ is ?

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  7. smoogie7 says:

    It will be interesting watching the BBC’s leadership debate with the Conservative hopefuls. Who will ask the questions? Will anyone be interrupted? What are the rules or will they be BBC rules?

    Boris Johnson looks like a very likely figure to become PM but these leadership challenges can turn nasty and the BBC will no doubt try to get involved in bringing down the candidate that they like the least.

    My money is on some extreme bias as who ever wins will be our PM and i somehow think that the BBC will not like the result

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Smoogie
      I could care less but I would insist on every one involved being subject to compulsory drugs tests -particularly maitless …

      Perhaps the reason most beeboids can’t stop interrupting replies in interviews is because they are all takers of Class A pharma .

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      • smoogie7 says:

        I would suggest the same for the BBC’s selected audiences as well. What are the odds that the audience would be from Labour remainers who will boo at the Brexiteers?

        You know, brought in for balance of course!

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    • The General says:

      Smoogie, can you name any Conservative PM that the BBC did like ?

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      • smoogie7 says:

        They should have liked Theresa May as she was more down their level but even then they preferred Corbyn over her. Funny really as Corbyn is against any second referendum which the BBC would love.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Isn’t Studly Rory a bit of a BBC crush?

        For some reason.

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  8. smoogie7 says:

    Oh and if anyone takes notice of these things, which the BBC will not, the turquoise party are ahead in two of the most recent polls:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Why would anyone vote for a Party which hasn’t even got a manifesto ? – a standard BBC question which shows how out of touch the state broadcaster is…

      … if any one comes up with a list of constituencies ranked by postal voting I d be obliged … I would like to know if there is a correlation with third world residence …

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      • smoogie7 says:

        Is that the party that was close to winning Peterborough had it not been for a few shifty postal votes?

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      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        F
        “Manifesto”
        Most of them should be printed on Izal.
        F + s7
        “Postal Votes”
        These must become illegal, our enemies from 5 million BC are cheating, as they are required to, by allegedly infallible sources.

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      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        What we need is major political reform. “manifesto”. What a horrible communist-sounding word for something political parties don’t live up to. Just saying.

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      • Navets says:

        Fed
        A more pertinent question may by “why would anyone vote for a party with a manifesto when its sole object would appear to be that of appeasing its grass roots supporters in the full knowledge that it will later be totally ridden roughshod over by the executive of the party whenever expedient”.

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  9. Boomer says:

    Foreign interference?

    From The Guardian:-

    For Amjad Iqbal and Shabina Qayyum, two Peterborough councillors, the result highlighted the importance of Labour support in the Asian community. “I would say the Muslim vote played a vital role in Lisa Forbes’s success,” Iqbal said.
    He said the circumstances surrounding Onasanya’s removal from office had come up on the doorstep, but the party had been able to distance itself from her case. “A lot of people said they were disappointed in Fiona’s action and that they weren’t going to vote for Labour. But we said look, that was her personal action, the Labour party has no responsibility or control over it.”
    Iqbal enlisted the help of his cousin Shoukat Farid, a politician in Kashmir, who had been in Peterborough campaigning since 31 May. Farid said lots of Kashmiri people in the constituency knew him and he hoped he had helped to get out the Labour vote.

    https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/07/labour-peterborough-win-locals-react-lucky

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Perhaps the future of city politics is that the Labour Party will put up an ‘acceptable ‘ face who is actually elected with fraudulent – industrial – postal voting . It gets around the lack of English language issue as well as the inconvenience of constantly pregnant muzzie Wimmin having to get off their backs to go and vote … without their ‘husband ‘ standing behind them

      Politicians seem to be reluctant to control voting fraud and the idea that there is something wrong with someone being required to produce evidence of identity to vote is ludicrous .

      Trying collecting a parcel from the Post Office without producing ID when you get to the front of the queue .

      I think it just best to do away with postal voting . If it’s important enough to a person to vote then physically go and do it – and show your identity .

      Drain the drugged up swamp

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      • Khaa2091 says:

        My theory is that once a percentage of the registered electorate – say 5% – request postal votes then that should trigger a suspension of postal voting in that constituency. Areas such as garrison towns etc could be given exemptions.

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      • Nibor says:

        Fed ,

        I have a postal vote as I am never in my area on a Thursday .
        Maybe the Brexit Party should have a campaign to get all lorry drivers that are away to apply for a postal vote as I’m sure most of them would vote Brexit . That could actually be in the hundreds of thousands.

        Get other trades (like fishermen ) that are affected by the EU to get postal voting .
        Lets hoist the political parties with their own petard .

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Nibor
          I elect for a postal vote in Londonistan because I can’t be bothered to drive / walk to the Polling Station .

          If the State took my postal vote away id do my best to physically visit the polling station . I am out of UK every month so it is chance . Personally if I knew that there was no postal voting fraud I d be happier than not being able to vote .

          I say this because at the moment there is no one as Right that I agree with so have to put up with third rate nonsense like overseas aid , third world social care and the NHS bottomless pit .

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  10. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    I see the Brexit Party Candidate for Peterborough is taking action over the Labour party telling lies about him.
    Wow! Labour telling lies? They’ve never done that before, how could he have expected such a thing?
    It would be more useful if he would ask for a closer look at the postal voting system. In fact is there any party that has the guts to question it? Or better still promote a policy to reform it?

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  11. theisland says:

    I agree we are at the stage where postal voting has to be stopped apart from obvious exceptions such as service personnel abroad.

    Everyone keeps telling us we can only change things through the ballot box, but this appears not to be the case for one reason or another.

    How the Brexit Party deal with the ‘Peterborough issue’ will determine their future success, or lack of. If they dare to even publicly acknowledge the elephant in the room they will be pilloried by the state. So will they kowtow and appease, or genuinely turn out to be a force for good?

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      We are told it’s the oldies who vote for leave (TBP in this case)

      Postal voting is usually given to the older and infirm, usually pensioners.
      I don’t know why younger fit people need a postal vote.

      Given the above, how is it that labour (remain/second referendum in a majority leave Peterborough) got 5,000 of the 6,000 postal votes.
      Are the Peterborough pensioners the only ones who are remainers or are there organised blocks of fake votes.

      Can they only fiddle certain votes such as Peterborough or South Thanet because if they go to fiddle a whole GE of votes somebody might talk.

      It’s a pity we have no newspaper willing to investigate these votes or try to get somebody undercover to expose the fiddling and rigging.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        EG
        I think the ‘ labour activists ‘ have postal vote filling sessions for the vast numbers of third world names in the system – whether the people are actually those with the name is another question .
        Hence the need for I d. Perhaps UK could get advice on fraud prevention from India of Pakistan …send for keef Vaz!

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    • StewGreen says:

      Not only postal votes
      A teller told me of a story he saw a person enter the room get allocated a whole fistfull of proxy votes then emerged from the viting booth more than 20 minutes later.

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        Read in the Telegraph today.

        % of total votes cast for Labour = 31%

        % of postal votes cast for Labour = 86%

        and

        70% of labours vote was postal votes.

        If this is true no doubt the Electoral Commission will be investigating. (ha ha)

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        • JimS says:

          If those figures are correct then:
          8,533 voted by post (all parties)
          7,334 voted by post for Labour
          3,150 voted in person or by proxy for Labour

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          • StewGreen says:

            Well the figs aren’t right are they
            Emmanuel Goldstein didn’t tell us which page of the Telegraph
            he could be quoting a readers comment

            “70% of labours vote was postal votes.”
            bet it wasn’t
            I’m guessing that is a misquote of
            ‘ of postal votes the total TURNOUT was 70%’
            ie 30% of postal voters didn’t send in their form

            On Twitter i see
            “Peterborough Council returning officers counted just under 6,000 valid postal votes from a total of 33,920, a 17.7% proportion.”
            If this magic 86% claim is true that would make 5,160 postal votes for Labour ..about half their total

            The official results page makes no mention of postal or proxy votes
            https://www.peterborough.gov.uk/council/elections/election-details/

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            • Helen Richardson says:

              Glad someone else is pointing this out.

              17.7% is close to the countrywide average. Comments in the DT quoting the (just under) 70% figure for Labour’s postal votes are absurd, even if fraud is involved. A moment’s thought would make them realise that this was turnout, and 70% would be about right for that.

              Bad losers grasping at straws don’t do their cause any good.

              Easy to see why PISA ranks this country in the low 20s for Maths and Reading.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Oh just be clear, the teller’s story was from a previous election in Bradford
        (not Peterborough)

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    • cromwell says:

      It’s obvious some postal voting fraud went on in Peterborough. I can see that, why can’t the electoral commission see that? Or maybe they have. It only took Gordon Brown to raise an objection about funding and the electoral commission rushed to the Brexit Party at breakneck speed to investigate so if there are complaints about the large number of postal votes in this by election surely they should investigate. It can’t be just one sided. (I notice BBC silent about this) I’m thinking of putting in a complaint to the electoral commission and hope others do too to see what they do. I did read on Twitter of the same feelings and the need to make a complaint. If this is allowed to continue and it is waved through can you imagine what this means when we have more by elections or a general election. As a subscriber mentioned yesterday the voting system in this country will turn into a 3rd world one.

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  12. Fedup2 says:

    It really is quite something isn’t it ? A constituency where the MP was convicted ! Imprisoned ! Refused to resign ! Was released early , caste a deciding parliamentary vote whilst being monitored ! .
    Then was forced out by a vote .

    Then a bent bi election .

    Even the very basic legitimacy of the presence of an individual as an MP is forfeit – yet alone the corrupt drugged up anti democratic parliament which I am always banging on about to destroy .
    Oh Oliver Cromwell. Where are you ?

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Up2 -perhaps we should have taken this up with mr Bercow.
      We know hat an extremely fair, impartial and unbiased speaker he is. a person of honour and integrity, the the little twerp, with delusions of grandeur…

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  13. Doobster78 says:

    Gary Lineker nailing his colours to the mast . Remember, all views his own and not that of the BBC !!!!! (Insert laughter)

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  14. theisland says:

    Honours List
    OBE to Daniel Snow “Journalist, Historian and Presenter. For services to History Propaganda”
    Another thing that needs scrapping.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Anyone else get a Nobel Prize for Peace in their cornflakes box this morning ?

      One neighbour got an award ‘for doing his job’

      The other got an award ‘for being a winner in sport’

      At school there are no losers cos everyone gets an award.
      In the real world the whole of the ‘metro liberal establishment class’ get an award.

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      • StewGreen says:

        Gammon climate-skeptic awarded MBE ?

        BAMEEN stands for Black & Minority Ethnic Environment Network- Hull
        Its work & website has been dormant for a couple of years

        “Yorkshire’s stalwarts named in Queen’s Birthday Honours”
        Dawda Jatta gets MBE
        \\ Mr Jatta came to the city in 2006 from The Republic of Gambia and said it looked just liked the University brochures he had seen, and wanted to maintain that cleanliness//
        \\ “When I started this project in 2013 I didn’t know anything about this, I was just doing something I was passionate about.”//

        ah he switched to “As a Big Energy Saving Network (BESN) champion, over the past three years he has consistently produced excellent results, exceeding targets set for outreach”
        .. so he is basically doing a job getting people to switch energy providers, with this government outreach prog thru NGO’s
        \\ The Big Energy Saving Network (BESN) is a £1.7 million programme jointly funded by the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy (BEIS) and National Energy Action (NEA) to support eligible third sector organisations and community groups deliver help and advice to vulnerable consumers //

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    • Fedup2 says:

      216 pages of gongs for the swamp .

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      • StewGreen says:

        Only jealous cos you are not a Yorkshire Stalwart
        thru having being in the country 13 years
        and having started a BAME NGO 6 years ago

        I you had started the Gammon Environmental Network you would have been knighted by now ?

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  15. Guest Who says:

    And the bbc could leave its politics at the door. Who knows?

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  16. Up2snuff says:

    My natural curiosity wonders how the Brexit Party’s recruitment is going after the Peterborough By-Election result.

    Will the BBC be equally curious, will they send a reporter to try to find out and, if so, will they report honestly without bias and making any other comment that might be beneficial to another Party?

    I wonder . . . ….

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  17. Guest Who says:

    Interesting.

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  18. Guest Who says:

    Predictable. If in itself, ironic.

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    • vlad says:

      We need a Fox News UK. ASAP.

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    • Demon says:

      At face value it would seem hypocritical of Hannity to say that a politician calling for an opponent is like a banana republic as he supported Trump’s call for Clinton to be locked up. However, the difference, and it is a big difference, is that Trump has been investigated over and over again and no evidence of any crime being committed by him.

      However, Clinton was lightly investigated and proof of her crimes were manifold, showing she should actually be locked up. But she was let off because she was a Clinton, or because she is a “Democrat” or because she’s not Trump. Or a bit of all three. Whereas they believe Trump should be locked up for winning the election in 2016.

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  19. Dover Sentry says:

    As regards the Constituency of Dunny-On-The-Wold, also known as Peterborough…

    If The Brexit Party had a criminal history of electoral fraud to match the Labour Party, and had ‘won’ the Peterborough by election by 680 votes, would the BBC be clamouring for an investigation?

    Would they?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      DS, the BBC would certainly assist all those clamouring for a re-run of the election on the basis that ‘the By-Election was divisive’ and ‘people did not know what they were voting for’ and ‘old racist people voted for a white candidate’ and ‘it wasn’t a clear result by 65% or 75% majority’.

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        And the Labour loser would say that this result didn’t match what she was told when canvassing on the doorsteps of voters.

        Well, that’s it then…

        TBP needs to tackle this. It certainly needs to be tackled before the next GE. Always the Labour Party at the centre of Electoral Fraud and racism.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          The candidates and their teams would have been at the count. It is up to them if they wish to challenge the result.

          Tactically, it may be better for TBP not to do so. By accepting the result of democracy (with all its faults) TBP start to really show up all those who will not accept and still fight against the result of the EU Referendum.

          Just look at the trouble that Ann Widdecombe has brought on herself for an unwise public statement and the trouble that some people (the BBC included as far as R4 are concerned) are trying to bring to Dominic Raab by misrepresenting something he is supposed to have said.

          TBP might be better engaged in starting to think about a manifesto and running careful checks on the membership prior to candidate selection in the event of no Brexit and a General Election.

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          • LastChanceSaloon says:

            U2s
            “think about a manifesto”
            It should be written by now, full speed ahead.
            A general election could happen anytime, given the confidencethe voters have in our MPs.

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Problem with a new Party, LCS, is not only weeding out the Fifth Columnist & opposition plants & spies early on, you then have to start sorting out the people who carry the manifesto to the electorate, ie. the candidates and their constituency teams.

              Prior to that there is more sorting to weed out the no-hopers, then find and weed out those with skellingtons as well as wellingtons in their closets, before you reach the point where you have 650 squeaky clean candidates R.T.R..

              Then you can sort out your Party management structure and procedures or do that at the same time as everything else. Rolling eyes upward Emoticon here!

              Only then you can really start to create a manifesto in discussion with all candidates and constituency teams. It is a colossal task.

              I suspect UKIP struggled with all these areas and looked what it did to them with all sorts of in-fighting, literally hand-to-hand as far as the MEPs were concerned together with leadership battles.

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  20. Guest Who says:

    This from the outfit that chose to headline an antisemite with dubious campaign support ‘sees off’ the evil challenge to the Labour/BBC landslide victory.

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/06/boris-boris-boris-bias-bias-bias.html

    BBC Editorial Integrity is a thing of wonder.

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  21. Jeff says:

    What do you make of the modern Conservative Party?
    It’s not that long ago that “Dave” struggled to deny he’d ever used cannabis.
    Now there’s a list of candidates queuing up to reveal their penchant for hard drugs.
    We’ve had that wild man of the Cabinet, Mickey Gove, telling us he used coke…and not the sort that comes with added sugar.
    Rory Stewart has let us into his heroin secret. I’ve got to be honest and say that looking at those gaunt features, hollow eyes and listening to his ramblings, I’m hardly surprised. More to the point, has he actually come off it?

    Do you think we’ll hear any more secrets as the candidates try to up their street cred?
    Andrea Leadsome likes the occasional spliff?
    Esther McVey dabbled with LSD?
    Matt Hancock ran an underground drugs den in Cheshire before joining Parliament?

    Something I really don’t want to see is an interview with Boris’s chum, the eloquent Jacob Rees Mogg. Opening his front door, wearing ridiculously loose, baggy strides, a Stomzy T shirt and a back to front baseball cap. Instead of his usual , impeccable English, Jacob has affected an awful Jafaikan drawl. “Dat dumb bitch had three years, man. She did fxxxing nuttin’. Know wot I mean?”

    Sorry, it’s been a really long night. Lack of sleep.
    I’m hallucinating.
    I hope…

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Brilliant post, Jeff. Can we sign you up for a regular one, every Saturday?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Jeff
      Keep hallucinating – Matt Hancock running a drugs den ? Priceless – that’s the character who uses his disability as a badge of pride – dyslexia –

      I’m real sorry but do I want a dyslexic PM who looks like he should still be wearing his school cap and satchell ….

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    • vesnadog says:

      Jeff,

      ” More to the point,”

      I thought you said: “More to the joint”

      I’m definitely hallucinating.

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  22. Up2snuff says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48564995

    For sixty years or more now, when UK Governments are in trouble (especially Conservative Party ones) they attack ‘the motorist’.

    Just love the photo the BBC Picture Researcher chose for the header pic. They obviously didn’t think too carefully about the subject of the article. Good old BBC – at least they give us a chuckle.

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  23. Guest Who says:

    Now what has American Beauty been up to, journalistically?

    No change there, then.

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  24. Beltane says:

    Call me old fashioned, but don’t you think the headline item in the Times, that Labour MP Dame Louise Ellman has requested the suspension of Peterborough’s newly enthroned Lisa Forbes, pending an investigation for anti-Semitism, might qualify as news on the BBC?

       48 likes

  25. Guest Who says:

    This thread looks interesting.

    I bet Rog, Dave And Justin will be all over it.

    Or not.

       17 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Some of us can remember the time when two-fifths (a.k.a. 40%) of the world’s population went to bed hungry at night, only having had one meal in the day. Now, it is only a fraction of that large fraction.

      For sure, as Ben Pile observes, malnourishment or hunger may well be increasing in certain places but the cause is not supposed warming but war and political conflict.

      Turned on R4 this a.m. in middle of piece that was talking about Maduro’s military running a narcotics business in Venezuela. Have been trying to find a reference to it on the BBC w-s but my ISP is running chronically slow at present.

      Nothing on BBC w-s here:
      https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-48559739

      That’s a disturbing thing about BBC, patchy news across their three platforms these days. You would almost think they were trying to enhance confusion, not reduce it.

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  26. theisland says:

    Looks like another diversionary tactic.

    It’s clearly ‘ours’.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall#Ownership

       24 likes

    • Demon says:

      I think that’s so hypocritical of the Scottish Government. They say they are desperate to stay in the EU, but if they get their wish they will have to accept that boats from other parts of the EU (e.g. Irish Republic) will have to be allowed to empty the fish stocks from “Scottish” waters. And there will be nothing they can do about it.

      Come on SNP, join the Brexit movement – you know it’s the right thing to do.

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  27. Cassandra says:

    Evidence emerges of Michael Gove’s bizarre behaviour with mysterious white powder under his nose…

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       20 likes

  28. Not Gwent says:

    Newswatch: I’m sure State Broadcaster man implied that negative Trump coverage reflected the fact that ‘many’ were opposed to the President.

    I wonder if an editor had totted up and obtained a negative/positive ratio and balanced output to suit?

    Does State Broadcaster apply a similar approach to covering EU matters? It would be wonderful had there been, for example, a national referendum result to readily read the balance from?

       26 likes

    • Doobster78 says:

      News watch is just pointless now. Shame really. The far left BBC person they wheel out to answer the criticism just tows the party line “we think everything was fair and balanced” . ……every ruddy week.

      For once, wouldn’t it be nice if they just held their hands up and admitted, looking back , they may have got something wrong.

      The episode after all the cliff Richard court case (when he won) and the BBC bod STILL defended the coverage was just infuriating.

      The BBC NEVER admit they get anything wrong !!!

         33 likes

  29. theisland says:

    For those who like to watch Trooping the Colour without Huw’s ‘commentary’, it is on bBC Red Button from 1030 with natural sound (however, not in HD).

       11 likes

  30. MarkyMark says:

    HETEROSEXUAL MAN WALKS AROUND STREET IN FRONT OF CHILDREN WITH PENIS IN SMALL SOCK … PERVERT!

    HOMOSEXUAL MAN WALKS AROUND STREET IN FRONT OF CHILDREN WITH PENIS IN SMALL SOCK … LIBERATOR!
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       30 likes

  31. MarkyMark says:

    Politicians … use words like candy and have no consequences.

    Actors … repeat the words produced by other people like candy and have no consequences.

    Solider … stands in front of real bullets to ensure the above can pass out candy.

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  32. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Remoaners keep on saying that we leavers didn’t know or understand what we were voting for, you know, when we were asked to either stay in or leave the eu.
    It happened yesterday on Politics live.

    The politicians readily accept the GE results.
    Does everyone who votes in the GE understand everything their voted for party has in its manifesto (I know they are meaningless)
    Do labour voters all understand changes in business taxes.
    Do all Tory voters understand pension reform.
    Do liberal voters understand anything at all.

    Same for the referendum.
    We voted with the knowledge, as in the booklet everyone received, that we would leave the eu and all its institutions (ecj, cm, sm and so on)
    Short of making everyone pass an exam to be allowed to vote showing they understand every aspect of every manifesto we will all have our differing levels of knowledge of party promises.
    If we now know more about the eu and are able to make a better choice then in another 3 years we will know more than today and in another 3 years after that more still….ad infinitum.

    We were at least as knowledgeable about what we were voting for in the referendum as we are in any GE so please, anyone on tv, point this out on the leftie shows like QT, politics live and all the others.

       38 likes

    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      EG
      Since the referendum we are better informed.
      I have watched the EEC/EU gravy train for fifty years, knowing where the terminus is for fourty of those years.
      Totalitarian dictatorship, by a politburo who have been lying about their intentions for every day of those fifty years.
      Assisted by lying Traitors posing as Conservatives, by the Press, by the BBC, by big business, by QANGOs, by so-called charities.
      Corruption and waste on a multi-billion Euro annual scale.
      Millions of Leave voters made the decision to leave before UKIP was even founded.

      Didn’t know what we were voting for?
      The Remainers have been peddling this large lie for three years; only because they are exceptionally low IQ individuals who lack the ability to evaluate and recognise a weak “argument”. Are you listening you thicko losers?
      Freedom.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      I remember at the time that the BBC sent Jeremy Paxman to one of the top Schools in London expecting the Remainers to win in a debate. But it turned out that the Brexitters won the debate saying to Jeremy that they won because they used the debate to inform those who didn’t know or understand EU governance. A local school also produced a victory for the Brexiteers using the same tactic of informing the ignorant. This implies that people who voted Remain are ignorant, the young being more ignorant than the older generation due to spending less time learning about the EU. This also implies that ignorance of European Union governance is essential for Remain supporters in any future referendum. I think to pass an exam on EU governance to be allowed to vote would produce a Brexit Party landslide. The exam should also include Britain’s Customs Union deficit and the WTO trade surplus and equivalent standards of living data with those nations which did not enter the EU.

         13 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Richard, I’m constantly finding people who voted Remain who do not know the facts about the EU and simply trot out received memes and MUMs (Modern Urban Myths).

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    • Up2snuff says:

      EG, happened again on Any Questions. I was brave enough to listen to the repeat so we had the tired old claim ‘that both sides lied’ from the SNP panel member. Dimbleby did not point out the latest news re the Remain claim of a £350m p/week lie being chucked out of Court.

      The Bumblebee’s Chairing declines in quality from week to week. You wonder why they bother with questions from the audience. Why not just have questions from the Chair and Panel members can debate with the Bumblebee.

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  33. G says:

    Love this one:
    “ “We are concerned that allegations of Islamophobia will be, indeed already are being, used to effectively shield Islamic beliefs and even extremists from criticism, and that formalizing this definition will result in it being employed effectively as something of a backdoor blasphemy law.” — Open letter signed by 40 British academics, writers and public officials to Home Secretary Sajid Javid.”
    https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/14351/britain-blasphemy-law
    “Home Secretary Sajid Javid”. Er, isn’t he one of the muslims charged with being the one of that cult to ‘shield’ his co-cultists?

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  34. Doobster78 says:

    How the BBC say there is no bias is staggering. Make you’re own mind up if BBC Emily likes President Trump or not ????

    “He’s not liked at all here” !!!!!!!! Look at the hatred in her face.

    You Emily , are a DISGRACE.

    Sorry if done already …I only was made aware earlier today.

       50 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      Loved the Dead Ringers line in first prog of new series, something like: “And now Newsnight with Emily Maitlis with legs polished to the shine of a new conker.”

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  35. Cassandra says:

    Postal vote fraud? Now what could all these towns and cities have in common I wonder…

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       45 likes

    • G says:

      Cass,
      The biggest problem is that these people increasingly see themselves as being exempt from, ‘our laws’. Quite right too: the police are there merely to embolden them. It won’t end well.

         29 likes

    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      C – Looks very similar to a map of the mass gang rape areas.

         15 likes

  36. Dover Sentry says:

    Online Petition:

    “Stop Postal Votes except for the elderly and disabled”

    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/258370?fbclid=IwAR2vxxS2F-B054W2cve-YfRQYPLcWaZVxdy8Mow_2oCeHILHkhqB58MCMks

       31 likes

    • gb123 says:

      The proxy voting system is just as open to abuse and should also be checked. The people who verify should be more independent. Large families with “close” relatives. We are all one big happy family. Right?

      “You can ask anyone to act as your proxy – as long as they’re registered to vote and they’re allowed to vote in the same type of election.
      You can be a proxy for 2 people at the same election, or more if the extra people are close relatives.”
      https://www.gov.uk/apply-vote-proxy

         29 likes

      • Beltane says:

        Why does an air of pessimism descend when the idea of restricting or cancelling the postal vote system is mooted?
        Because the queues of human rights lawyers would look like rush-hour in downtown Karachi.

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    • Demon says:

      Although tempted to sign it, I have some reservations. There have been times when I have been away from home (e.g. on training courses) at the time of elections and have had to apply for one-off postal votes. A snap general election may be called for a date when you have already booked a holiday.

      I think that if a postal vote is required it has to fulfil a genuine requirement, such as illness or infirmity, unavoidable absence from your constituency. Officials should be appointed to witness all genuine postal votes being cast in hospitals or care homes etc., but not the actual vote of course. Those who are fit, but planning to be absent, should make themselves available at an agreed earlier date so they can vote in a similar way to going into a polling boothwith officials witnessing the act.

      This would be more difficult way to do it but would get rid of 95% of suspected fraud. Also anyone who votes, at a polling station or in any of the other ways above, should have to prove identity – passport with picture would be a start.

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  37. Navets says:

    On a different note, not something you will see on the BBC or, for that matter, any other organ of the MSM;

    https://www.manhattan-institute.org/green-energy-revolution-near-impossible

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  38. Cassandra says:

    I was reading the BBC New report on the US / Somali police officer shooting dead the unarmed Australian woman in her pajamas.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-48562834

    Part of the report about his family and supporters claiming that he was the victim and that giving him a prison sentence was a racist act. ( Where have I heard that before?)

    Then I spotted this link underneath the report.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/help-41670342

    “Research shows that, compared to other broadcasters, newspapers and online sites, the BBC is seen as by far the most trusted and impartial news provider in the UK .”

    The arrogance contained in this statement is breathtaking.

       36 likes

  39. Doobster78 says:

    Was just checking out Emily Maitliss Twitter feed to see if could try and gauge if she was Leave or Remain. Sorry, my error, its BBC so it’s Hard Remain or ultra remain !!!!

    I found she had retweeted this earlier in the week.

    https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1136608367181537280ow

    I would counter this and say , how have all those big names, so far, got it SO WRONG !!!!!

       15 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      The tweet appears to have been deleted?

         5 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        No it hasn’t Doobster did an error by having two extra letters at the end

           6 likes

  40. StewGreen says:

    XR splits in two
    boss Farhana Yamin says a July 1st Heathrow shut down is violence
    boss Roger Hallam says it isn’t.

       8 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Farhana is new to me. A founder too? Rog is just Wolfie Smith’s nasty ponytailed creepy uncle. That today’s world of academe hosts this clown comes as Zero surprise.

         2 likes

  41. john in cheshire says:

    This 14 minute video update of the Robin Tilbrook Brexit case is interesting in that, in my understanding of what is being said in the video, the state and the MSM are preventing us from knowing that the case is in progress and that it has a good chance of succeeding.

       23 likes

  42. StewGreen says:

    militant humanist and CofE gangs take over prisons

       26 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Times explained that Muslim only sections helps radicalism from being spread
      and that “jails within a jail” already exist
      Also Muslims are 3 times more common in prison than they should be since they are only 5% of population.

      \\ There were 13,008 Muslim prisoners in England and Wales at the end of March, about 15 per cent of the total jail population. At the end of last year 175 prisoners were serving sentences for terrorist offences linked to Islamist extremism.

      In some top-security jails the proportion of Muslim inmates was higher. About 42 per cent of Whitemoor prison in March, Cambridgeshire, and 31 per cent at Long Lartin in Worcestershire were Muslim. Three “jails within a jail”, known as jihadi jails, had been set up to house up to 28 subversive and proselytising Islamist inmates.//

      TimesComments are different cos not everyone can comment only paying subscribers

      Some praise Tommy for insight
      Janice Atkinson MEP has previously called UK government weak
      and said we should have our own Guantanamo Bay for terrorists
      https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/muslim-gangs-beat-prisoners-who-will-not-convert-to-islam-gcb8nb2md

         21 likes

      • Richard Pinder says:

        Under a Brexit government, Britain’s identical equivalent to Guantanamo Bay for Islamic terrorists would be called Episkopi Bay. A military detention camp could be set up for Islamic terrorists located in the Middle-East British Military Base & Overseas Territory of Akrotiri.

           10 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Forgive me Richard – but do you think any UK government – in current circumstances – would officially set up such a base ?

          And if a base was ever authorised – would nt it be in the Falklands ? Or a nice protectorate somewhere in the middle of the Pacific – say Pitcairn ? It would have to be a big island to detain the threats to Blighty happily living off and breeding in Britain ?

             14 likes

          • theisland says:

            I fancy Ascension Island (nice and remote).

               9 likes

          • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

            Fed up.
            Lots of free space at Chernobyl.

               11 likes

          • Richard Pinder says:

            The UK government officially set up such a base in the 1960‘s. Its just that it hasn’t got a detention camp. Britain’s only Overseas territory which is 100% a military base is Akrotiri and Dhekelia on the island of Cyprus, its already used by Britain as its main Middle-East military base. But the Falklands and Pitcairn belong to the inhabitants with only the Falkland Islands with a military base on it. The Falkland Islanders only want the military base to be used to defend the Falklands against Argentina. Episkopi Bay is to Guantanamo Bay as Cyprus is to Cuba as the British military is to the US military. Its almost an identical set up but without a detention camp.

               4 likes

            • Fedup2 says:

              Thanks Richard – there must be some god foresaken lump of rock in the uninhabited bit of the Falklands the Penguins wouldn’t mind sharing? Wouldn’t be cheap but it would be safe ….

              It’s off BBC but important .

                 7 likes

              • Dover Sentry says:

                Grenfell Towers as a location springs to mind.

                It’s available, centrally placed and secure. Start the cells on the third floor and there would be no escapes.

                   8 likes

        • LastChanceSaloon says:

          RP
          Java, Sumatra, or other Indonesian Islands.
          They would be welcome there.

             3 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        What isn’t mentioned here is the number of prison staff who may well be related to Islamic inmates …. I understand many local prisons employ local people ….

           11 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Total prison population about 85000? The followers of the false prophet sure do sin …

           7 likes

  43. StewGreen says:

    Former SNP MP turned to to crime after leaving office
    stealing from foodbank charity etc.
    https://wwe.twitter.com/DVATW/status/1136607521903382530

       11 likes

  44. vlad says:

    Oh dear, Ann Widdecombe loses the gay vote with a little help from the msm screaming homophobia at her.

    She rightly calls the furore ‘liberal tyranny’.

    And the beeb are delighted to front-page Gove’s little encounters with cocaine. Ironic given that hacks are well-known for their widespread use of the stuff. Allegedly.

       25 likes

  45. Fedup2 says:

    Stew
    The SNP creature could at least gone to the bottom rung like stealing from a hospice . Can you imagine that people actually trusted rubbish like that …..

       17 likes

  46. StewGreen says:

    Dumb BBC wasted money by making it’s operations bases in central London and putting on a £4.5m free bus
    ..now it’s been cancelled.

       8 likes

  47. Doobster78 says:

    Remember folks, these people don’t want any fuss , don’t want to draw attention to themselves(so they keep telling us), they just want to be viewed as “normal” in society.

    Ummm !!! Ok

       19 likes

    • Richard Pinder says:

      Diversity: A person with surgically removed Male body parts, but with a Woman’s brain. A Brain that such people do not usually want removed due to a “Bias of Will” towards removing other body parts within such a brain.

         7 likes

  48. theisland says:

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    • Zelazek says:

      While there is an element of truth in what Dawkins says, age qualification is the fairest (and easiest to administer) way of deciding who can vote. Just as for the age restriction laws on buying tobacco and alcohol, having sex or getting married, it is best for the individual and for society as a whole to have clear and unambiguous rules. I like Dawkins when he talks about evolution but I often feel that away from the lab and his microscope this impractical ivory tower figure doesn’t quite understand real people or how societies work. He seems to have an antipathy towards customs and traditions that have stood the test of time. He dismisses them if they appear superficially silly or illogical and has no real curiosity about what human needs they may be expressing or meeting. He often seems to arrogantly believe that an idea that just occurred to his superbrain five minutes ago must be more sensible than the accumulated wisdom of the ages.

         6 likes

      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        Zelazek, Dawkins has the outlook of fundamentalist. His creed could be summed up as ‘There is no god but evolution and Darwin is his prophet’.
        While I wholeheartedly accept evolution, I never take anything he says about the world seriously. A man with a mind so closed who cannot be of any use outside his own particular field.
        If anybody wishes to disagree with me on that that’s fine. I am always willing to look at evidence that contradicts what I believe, unlike Mr Dawkins.

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