Midweek Thread Wednesday 29 May 2019

Over To You

Bookmark the permalink.

640 Responses to Midweek Thread Wednesday 29 May 2019

  1. Lucy Pevensey says:

    D7qIn08XsAAJXMG.png

       114 likes

  2. Beltane says:

    Some reactions to Alastair Cambell’s sacking from within the Labour party are sympathetic, and one or two here might feel the same – judging recent posts. But those inclined to worry that the loss of party might unhinge poor Al, again, should ask themselves why he made his voting choice public. He is, after all, not just a bully, a rogue and a charlatan, he’s also an accomplished spin doctor.

       79 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      Absolutely, Belters!

      ‘Nutter votes for more nutters’ is my way of simplifying a trivial subject – I couldn’t really care a tinker’s cuss what he does, he’s always been a duplicitous liar, unlikeable and a genuinely unpleasant, nasty piece of work.

      He can piss off in any language as far as I’m concerned.

         86 likes

    • G says:

      What about all the other Labour voters who voted Brexit. What will happen to them?

         26 likes

    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Didn’t they take his ‘condition’ into account?

      Expulsion could have pushed him over the top.

      Maybe they’ve had enough of the filthy scumbag too.

         14 likes

    • Beltane says:

      Only just noticed that in what must be the most Freudian of slips, I took the ‘p’ out of Cam(p)bell’s name. Unintentional but funny by default. I thought of claiming it was deliberately witty – but if we’re not honest on here there’s not much point in contributing.

         4 likes

    • JosF says:

      alastair camp-bellend might have gone from the joke that is the labour party but the Ministry Of Truth still rams camp-bellend down the veiwers throats as though alastair camp-bellend was something important in the same way the Ministry Of Truth does with cmpbellend’s master, antony charles lynton blair.

         5 likes

    • tarien says:

      As I have already posted, then so should M. Heseltine be drummed out of the Tory party for also voting with the Lib-Dems-a right trouble maker-always has been and only for himself.

         4 likes

  3. Cassandra says:

    Just seen this on Twitter, should Corbyn now expel himself?

    322e93.jpg

       47 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      What on earth is the silly old fool up to now!

      Two twats piddling about in the mire they created years ago, and still wandering around in the wilderness!

      What a pathetic bunch of twonks we pay for in Westminster – we deserve much better.

         56 likes

      • Thoughtful says:

        “What a pathetic bunch of twonks we pay for in Westminster – we deserve much better.”

        No you don’t! You pay peanuts and you get moneys ! MPs pay might be twice the average for London, but who on Earth would do it for such a pittance.

        An MPs salary is less than that of a Police Superintendent, it’s also around the salary of a school departmental head, or a Supermarket manager after a few years.

        Thin the numbers, up the pay, and make sure the people selected are fit for the job.

           19 likes

        • Nibor says:

          It’s volunteers for the job .

          How about every constituency sets the level they are willing to fork out for their delegate to Parliament?

          Or every candidate declares how much he/she will will extract from the constituency to do the job ?

             11 likes

        • Scroblene says:

          Oh I don’t know, Thoughtful, we at ‘The Turrets’ seem to muddle along on our meagre pensions, but we definitely never have the perks and expenses that we still pay taxes for!

          I’m all for thinning the numbers though, and would be delighted if the members had some business acumen, not just a diploma in vegan gender studies.

          I should find out a bit more, but I only learned recently that Switzerland doesn’t have a Prime Minister, they have a small ‘cabinet’ which takes the decisions.

          I’ll try and read up on it when I have less time!

             10 likes

          • Up2snuff says:

            Thinning the numbers in both Houses, esp. the HoL, would be a good thing but please bear in mind for the HoC it might reduce the services & help available to constituents.

            Thinning the weight & size of the members of both Houses might also be a good thing. It would be interesting to know how many are obese and overweight.

               3 likes

        • Ian Rushlow says:

          They are not so much monkeys as pigs (with their snouts in the trough). Most are very wealthy – typically around 60-70% of MPs in recent parliaments have been millionaires – and being an MP or former MP opens up all sorts of doors in industry and the lucrative NGO/lobbying world.

             14 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Thoughtful – come on -admit it -you’re an MP- there’s nothing to be ashamed of – oh actually -there is.

          Just don’t get how you persistently think they are of value

          Drain the swamp .

             6 likes

      • JosF says:

        wo twats piddling about in the mire they created years ago,

        One hopes good sir that the “Two Twats” you are referring to are the garden gnome corbyn and gobby galloway ???

           4 likes

      • JosF says:

        Looking for something better in the Palace Of Fools………….Then dont bother with any section of the liblabcon Brussels uniparty. All sections of the liblabcon Brussels uniparty are unfit for purpose. That statement off course also includes the joke that is the greens.

           1 likes

  4. Fedup2 says:

    Beltane ,
    I’m very disappointed that he has been sacked – he could really have helped out the brexit party by ranting on even more and alienating more labour supporters from the Party .

    Now he’s going to be touring TV studios going ‘peak victim’ and boring viewers with his rants .

    I disagree about your view that he is an accomplished spin doctor – he may have started that way but he screwed up on Iraq and got caught too many times . He became known because of his ego and therefore became , in my view , a failure .
    He’s got plenty of cash so he s ok on that front .

       38 likes

  5. Terminal Moraine says:

    The Guardian: ‘Spectres of the past’: Angela Merkel sounds alarm over antisemitism. “Merkel’s critics claim her decision to let almost 1 million refugees into Germany in 2015 contributed to a rise in support for the far right, in particular of the rightwing populist Alternative for Germany (AfD), but she defended her policy once again in the interview.”

    Merkel’s critics claim what? The Guardian and the BBC trying to outdo each other when it comes to unjoining dots. Maybe it’s some sort of in-house competition they’ve got going on.

    Word count:
    Rightwing / far right = 4
    Populism = 3
    Religion = 0
    Islam = 0
    Muslim = 0

       59 likes

    • pugnazious says:

      Wasn’t it Merkel who let in hordes of anti-semites to join the ones already there?

      ‘Chancellor Angela Merkel has spoken of a “different type of antisemitism”, which some of the million-plus refugees from Muslim countries had brought to Germany since the summer of 2015.
      Klein warned that this “imported” antisemitism had often been stoked further by some of the thousands of ultra-conservative salafi Muslims living in Germany. But, he added, reliable statistics also showed that regardless of the refugee influx, “around 20% of all Germans hold antisemitic views, a statistic that has remained stable for years and never gone down”.’

      Merkel demonstrates the stupidity of her class……guilty about the Holocaust and anti-semitism…to make amends and prove her humanity she imports people whose culture, religion and history encourages them to be anti-semitic.

         33 likes

    • JosF says:

      That of course is explained the fact that the Ministry of Truth is the broadcast arm of Al-Guardian, The Ministry Of Truth and Al-Guardian remind me of two old drunks staggering down the road……Noisy, Annoying and irrelevent.

         0 likes

  6. Fiter says:

    In 2016 we didn’t know what we were voting for!!
    What is the excuse now
    Deselect Yvette Cooper and every other member of parliament who tries to defy the will of the people

       74 likes

  7. Fiter says:

    Leave wins 52% in the EU referendum 2016
    Re-moaners, its not by enough
    Leave wins 80% the 2017 general election.
    Re-moaners, But it wasn’t clear
    Leave wins 2019 EU elections
    Re-moaners, But the combined vote of the remain losers is higher!
    Anyone seeing a pattern forming here?

       87 likes

  8. Captain Panick says:

    FedUp, I did notice at the end of the last thread, that you were having to edit a number of posts using the surname of the current Foreign Secretary, using the version of his surname promulgated by the BBC and other news outlets. Would it be acceptable to refer to him as Mr Chunt, thus saving you valuable time?

       32 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Major Pannick
      Thanks for noticing-yes I think your solution is ok unless someone else moans .

      It does cheese me off – people venting off here using ‘industrial language ‘ . Why do it ? In the world which is not the internet – otherwise known as ‘Real Life ‘ I am a skilled user of ‘industrial language ‘ and it gives me great comfort – particularly when alone in the car ….but I refrain ( most of the time I think ) from engaging the more ‘brutal’ Naughty words of our precious language .

         34 likes

  9. Fedup2 says:

    I saw that the outgoing PM is going off to Brussels and to say ‘goodbye “ ( until she gets a job there ) . I was wondering what fairwell present ( gift – in American ) that the ReichEU will award her… ( and her Belgian assistant – Oliver robbins ) ..

       44 likes

    • Mrs Kitty says:

      FU2, as name changes is the new fashion I prefer to call him Oily Robbins it suits his image better. Being a lady I won’t say the name change that occurs for Laura K….. She of the BBC liars, it would need an edit from you.

         30 likes

      • Captain Panick says:

        Mrs Kitty, I think if you called her Laura Chuntsburger, that might work?

           31 likes

        • Up2snuff says:

          CP, isn’t that sort of thing one letter removed from an Aussie slang expression for vomit and vomiting?

             9 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      If she ends up in a US prison cell, maybe the EU gang of ne’er-do-wells will give her something to keep her company in those dark lonely nights.

         10 likes

    • Beltane says:

      Farewell gifts for Theresa and Olly? Well, with plenty of time for cooking now, a life-long supply of Brussels sprouts might go down a treat. As for Olly, a similar quantity of waffles.

         18 likes

      • JosF says:

        A one way ticket to the euro-pigsty with permenant residency permits in brussels looks good to me for both theresa pushmay-pullmay and oily robbins !!

           2 likes

  10. Lucy Pevensey says:

    My name is Lucy Yaxley-Lennon

       39 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      You’re not Tomasina Robinson by any chance?

         19 likes

    • Scroblene says:

      Or even Mrs Luxury-Yacht, whose real name was something like Throat-Warbler-Mangrove!

      That was one of the funniest Python sketches ever, and Graham Chapman’s polystyrene nose was a real hoot! (‘pun’ intended…)

      Of course, the BBC wouldn’t like that now, it was funny…

         11 likes

  11. Fedup2 says:

    I wonder if the BBC will interview one of its favourites – whitewash Shabi – that famous champion of human rights and self enrichment – concerning the inquiry into anti semitism by a State Quango .
    Why are they wasting public money on something that shabi has already dealt with ?

    Will shabi give evidence of her method and findings ?

    She is , after all ,shadow Attorney General so her word will be ‘law’ right?

       50 likes

  12. taffman says:

    Good News , despite Brexit, Bombardier’s Derby site will build 280 train cars for delivery to Egypt between 2021 and 2024, subject to confirmation. Also, there prospective buyers for British Steel.

    Has Al Beeb covered these yet ? Do they do News or are they just a propaganda site ?

       56 likes

  13. taffman says:

    “P&O seeks £33m in damages over Brexit ferry settlement”
    And we havn’t left the EU yet . Is this money well spent or money wasted ? Is this coming out of Grayling’s pocket ?

       30 likes

    • Sluff says:

      Grayling might be a leaver but that hasn’t stopped him being absolutely, totally useless.

         23 likes

  14. Sluff says:

    We need a little light relief. How about this ?
    The biased BBC are reporting that in London some Somali families are sending their children back to East Africa because they are worried about knife crime in London.
    I suspect the subtext here is that the evil Tory austerity government have underfunded the Police.

    Here are a couple of questions the investigative journalists at the BBC, all 2000 of them, don’t seem to be asking.
    1. Why don’t the whole families go back ?
    2. If they were admitted as asylum seekers in the first place should this designation not now be removed?
    3. How much taxpayers money has been spent on these families in the last 5 and 10 years?

    You can’t make it up.

       73 likes

    • pugnazious says:

      The BBC knows full well that Syrians and Iraqi ‘asylum seekers’ often head back home because they don’t like it here, thousands and thousands leave Germany….naturally the BBC doesn’t ask why if it is so dangerous in those countries how they are able to return….or why they really came….was it fear or expecting free handouts….

      ‘“I just followed the other people. They were saying there’s a better life in Europe,” Samad says. “I wanted to see for myself.”

      But the reality was disappointing.

      “I was expecting a comfortable life and that they would provide us with help,” he says. “But it was so difficult.”’

      The father of the child Aylan Kurdi headed back to Syria after managing to get his family killed when lured to Europe by the promises of the likes of the BBC who entice them with tales of a better life.

      The BBC is part of the problem, it facilitates the people trafficking, the deaths, the murders, the sexual slavery, the extortion. It and people with the same mentality lure in economic migrants to make dangerous journeys just so that the likes of Mark Easton can do a bit of virtue-waving and prove their credentials as wonderful, humane and caring people.

         44 likes

      • Beltane says:

        That’s outrageous Pug, giving all the credit to Mark Easton. What about Orla and Fergal? How could we ever begin to appreciate the true gravity of the situation without their in-depth and heart-rending deliveries?

           24 likes

      • vlad says:

        “I was expecting a comfortable life and that they would provide us with help,” he says. “But it was so difficult.”

        What, don’t tell me they made him – gasp! – fill in forms before they gave him handouts, accommodation and medical care?

        Or worse still – double gasp!! – expected him to actually WORK for a living??

        Oh man’s inhumanity to man.

           35 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        I hope that film has been seen, right through at least twice, by Angela Merkel and ‘her people’.

           1 likes

    • The Sage says:

      As I have mentioned here previously, many so-called Somali refugees are from the former British colony of Somaliland, capital Hargeisa. There were a couple of days of light skirmishing around Hargeisa in the early 1990s, but it has been peaceful ever since. Yet and yet, the UK government has been giving refugee status to these Somalis and who come from a perfectly safe self-governing “country” that is seeking independence from Somalia. Madness.
      Mind you, having lived in Nairobi I very much doubt that “Eastlands”, the Somali part of the city, is safer than London – even with the stabbings.

         12 likes

  15. pugnazious says:

    Alastair Campbell is always good for a laugh and today proves no different as he’s kicked out of Labour for voting LibDem….however the BBC’s breaking top, top news is that Alastair says ‘I’ll always be Labour’…except of course when he’s Libdem and his real priorities kick in…ie…voting in the service of a foreign power and running a violent propaganda misinformation sheet on their behalf.

    Maybe he should be kicked out of Britain for having betrayed the nation just as he’s been kicked out of Labour for betraying them.

    The BBC has its own priorities clearly…this major and hugely important story hogging the headlines for hours…they also made a huge amount of noise when the Austrian ‘far-right’ politician, Heinz-Christian Strache, was forced out of office….however when the pro-EU Austrian Chancellor is forced out of office by a no-confidence vote the story does a rapid disappearing trick and the BBC buries it faster than a story about Muslim terrorism.

    So….when what is essentially the Austrian PM is removed from office the BBC downplays it but when someone who has never been elected, is not a politician, and is in fact a well known spinner of lies and falsehoods the BBC makes it headline news. Funny old world. But of course dear old Al is pro-EU through and through so the BBC is happy to overlook his sins in a way they never would for say Farage or Boris….their ‘sins’ mostly fabricated by the BBC of course.

       59 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      There is no way the BBC will not have Ali on just as much as before.

      He knows people.

         36 likes

  16. countryblues says:

    Since the EU Elections on Thursday, I’ve become depressed because it’s been explained to me that the Brexit Party didn’t do as well as all the other Parties.

    From the utterings of analysts, experts, politicians and the MSM I think the situation may be hopeless. Did they learn nothing?

    Could the Brexit Party repeat its success (I mean failure) in a GE? It may be necessary methinks.

    Lovely piece by Polly Toynbee in the Guardian BTW… 🙁

       43 likes

    • Banania says:

      Thanks for the reference to Polly’s article. She is surely quite mad.

         4 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        It’s good that Polly and her ilk keep pushing that line, just in case a second EU vote is foisted on us.

           0 likes

  17. StewGreen says:

    BBC Three trolling you
    \\ Young Welsh and Pretty Religious: The skydiving geneticist breaking stereotypes
    “I’m a proud Welsh Muslim and you’ve got to accept me for who I am.” //
    CCBGB cee-ceebeegeebees

       18 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Oh that Welsh religion prog is on now
      \\ Religious hate crime in Wales is rising and this programme considers what it is like to be on the receiving end of the abuse.

      Niqab-wearing Sahar speaks out about being abused on the streets and how she tackles Islamophobia head on,

      Hannah talks about the rise in anti-semitism and the lengths the Jewish community have to go to in order to protect themselves,

      and bi-sexual Christian Will and a group of his LGBT+ friends share their experiences of being rejected by their churches.
      (that bit was on just now)//

         17 likes

    • JosF says:

      In my ideal world I identify as my favourite comic book hero…….Judge Dredd.

         0 likes

  18. StewGreen says:

    Daniel Bostock : They Didn’t Like My Vote

       33 likes

  19. Fedup2 says:

    There are 313 conservative MPs . I think at the moment there are 10 of them campaigning to be the leader of their Party .

    Once upon a time I was vaguely supportive of the Conservative Party particularly under Margaret Thatcher . Now I want to see it gone and replaced by a Right Wing Party – maybe that’s what it should be called The Right Wing Party .

    Obviously the BBC would add the prefix ‘Far’ to it .

       63 likes

  20. Fedup2 says:

    Fascinating piece about the coming inquiry of the Labour Party on institutional anti semitism on C4 News . They went around ten minutes on it without mentioning Shabi and her award winning inquiry ( the award was a place to put her bottom in the toilet of the so called Upper House ) . Quite something .

       38 likes

  21. Guest Who says:

    OT, but favours they do themselves not.

       20 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      The things people do to get the next promotion . The foreigners must really think these characters are mugs .

         10 likes

  22. Dover Sentry says:

    Peterborough By-election Betting Odds:

    Brexit Party 2/9
    Labour 7/2
    Conservatives 20/1

    Assuming that The Brexit Party win, the BBC will start to froth from all orifices…

       45 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      In the BBC world, The Brexit Party cannot win in Peterborough. They will promote a system called Imaginary Multiple Transferable Votes until the ‘correct’ result is acheived i.e.
      1st Round – The Brexit Party receive most votes. NO OVERALL WINNER.
      2nd Round – The combined votes of Labour, Conservative, LibDems and Watermelon parties are taken into account. If The Brexit Party still have the most votes, NO OVERALL WINNER.
      3rd Round – The number of non-voters, hypothetical SNP and Plaid Cymru voters are taken into account. The Brexit Party still have the most votes, NO OVERALL WINNER.
      4th Round – Votes achieved by Macron and Merkel in the EU election are added. The Brexit Party no longer have the most votes. LABOUR PARTY DECLARED LANDSLIDE WINNER.

         29 likes

  23. vlad says:

    Jess Phillips – with al beeb’s tacit approval – refers to TR as ‘vermin’.

    Personally I think verminous is allowing this country to be taken over by a hostile alien cult, that is violent, supremacist, racist, xenophobic, homophobic, misogynistic and fundamentally inimical to our way of life.

       73 likes

    • Demon says:

      Surely she should be treated in the same way as Sargon, after all she is actually using nazi terminology for the type of people she dislikes and thinks she is superior to.

         15 likes

  24. Fedup2 says:

    Dover
    Using the new form of mathematic if The Brexit Party gains the seat they will not have won because the combined vote of the other Partys – and if that’s not enough – those who didn’t vote – will outnumber those of the New MP which renders them illegitimate so as to require a fresh people’s vote .

    I somehow think that the once bouncy Chooka people will hide in London rather than risk it on the hard dangerous streets of .. er … Peterborough .
    Peterborough of course is named after a Christian Saint . The Devil would be much happier if it was changed ….to say … Moborough ?

       36 likes

  25. theisland says:

    Littlejohn says it all
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-7076141/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-stupid-people-got-wrong-again.html

    “It was almost as if Thursday’s vote had never happened. You wouldn’t have thought that Farage’s Brexit Party had gone from 0-32 per cent in six weeks from a standing start.

    If this had been Top Gear, Jeremy Clarkson would have hailed him as the best ever Star In A Reasonably Priced Car.

    Instead, pundit after pundit was wheeled onto the BBC and Sky to rubbish the result.”

       66 likes

    • Doobster78 says:

      Great article thanks . Bang on the money. Nailed it.

         24 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      You got there before me TI ! its an excellent article that everyone should read. And when I read……. ”

      Instead, pundit after pundit was wheeled onto the BBC and Sky to rubbish the result”

      it was what every Brexiteer was thinking.

         31 likes

  26. Doobster78 says:

    Piers Morgan just tweeted this in response to someone asking who he voted for

    “didn’t vote. I won’t vote again in Britain if the EU Referendum result isn’t honoured”

    Lots of respect for Piers !!!! A very very rare, remainer who wants to see the referendum result implemented . Worth checking out his Twitter account today, he’s been on fire. Absolutely taking down Alistair Campbell ‘s pants !!!!! Lovely.

       42 likes

    • Dystopian says:

      It a shame that those such as Piers, who hold that view, didn’t vote for the Brexit Party to protest and uphold democracy.
      So given this, can the remoaners now consider all those who didn’t vote to the votes of the Brexit Party for the purposes of the BBBC’s dodgy bar charts?

         22 likes

  27. Dover Sentry says:

    Daily Mail:

    “”Trump moves to de-fang global warming science with ‘climate review panel’ led by Princeton physicist who believes ‘The ‘demonization of carbon dioxide’ is like ‘the poor Jews under Hitler’ “”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7078237/Trump-moves-fang-global-warming-science-climate-review-panel.html

    The BBC will be frothing from every orifice.

       47 likes

  28. StewGreen says:

    “hand waving” is drawing or assuming conclusions without evidence
    The New York Times uses it to say
    ‘ OMG President Trump is attacking climate science’

    .. When in fact all he doing is saying concentrate on short term models like 20 years cos 100 year models can be way way out.
    BH
    http://bishophill.squarespace.com/blog/2019/5/28/an-attack-that-is-nothing-of-the-sort.html

       24 likes

    • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

      Thanks for that reference Stew. I am still unsure about climate change and articles so sources like that are useful.
      Unlike most people here I don’t have a degree in astrophysics etc and I am still in the process of reading up on the topic.
      But after some helpful comments by some of the people here I decided to reduce my carbon emissions by using my old Holden less and I bought a Hales’ Magnetic Solar Cycle! I must say that while a bit pricey, Hales have done a wonderful job. It takes a lot of the hard work out of pedaling except, of course, when the sun goes behind a cloud then you have to work a bit harder. But if it really clouds over that’s when you switch to the magnets and you can really work up a speed. The downside is that you always have to have a vehicle in front of you.

         16 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Yasser, you don’t need a degree in astrophysics. Some schooldays physics & biology (gas science and what CO2 is useful for & what humans are made of) plus economics, if you studied it, (a lot of the IPCC members are economists but that doesn’t stop them coming out with rubbish) plus a healthy dose of common sense are all you need.

        Loved the rest of your post. Keep that ol’ V8* a’hummin’!

        I hope it’s a V8 and not one of those downmarket Holdens ….. 😉 🙂

           4 likes

  29. pugnazious says:

    Seriously…wtf?…why the hell is Alastair Campbell still headline news on the BBC website? Not just headline news but the BBC keeps updating the story with every utterance Campbell makes…the headline actually changing several times…now it’s ‘I’m not a liberal democrat’…..who the hell cares in reality? Why is this irrelevance being given such a massive platform?

    What does Campbell have on the BBC? Is the BBC trying to make him into a hero for ‘sacrificing’ himself for the cause… giving the BBC the chance to keep the narrative of a second referendum, Campbell’s big idea, continually on air and in public view?

    News Sniffer….

    https://www.newssniffer.co.uk/articles/1786855/diff/0/1

       41 likes

  30. Thoughtful says:

    Well just when you think you’ve seen everything, something comes up which is so jaw droppingly stupid you are forced to stop and read it all again.

    The BBC is attempting to stage a debate with the 10 (up to now) candidates for the Tory leadership, of course this is cheap TV and a chance for them to attack the hated tories, and maybe ruin someones career for life.

    However that is not the stupid refered to earlier.

    Some unbelievable leftist loon has complained that the fact every one of the debaters is from the Tory party shows the BBC is biased towards the Tory party !

    No doubt at this point you like me are stll trying to get your head around the momunetal levels of stupid that this leftie exhibits.

    I don’t think this can ever be surpassed !

       54 likes

  31. The General says:

    Just as I thought, that little b*****d Bercow is planning to facilitate legislation to rule out a ‘no deal’ and May is still trying to coerce MPs to pass her Treaty.
    I don’t know why so many Conservative MPs are giving her such an easy time. She is totally responsible for this mess and has created or at least allowed a situation where the Government have lost control of Parliament, the Speaker and Brexit. There is now a real danger Brexit will be lost.
    THAT is her Legacy, I hope she is proud of it.

       47 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Field Marshall
      If Brexit were to be lost – and the ReichEU process of subsuming Nation States into it – then I think thing will go two ways –
      A substantiate part of the population turning away from ‘ current affairs ‘
      Or / and extra parliamentary activity – at one end civil disobedience – at the other end – state institutions being blown up .

      I don’t know which way it would go – but I would guess the former rather than the latter .

      We certainly wouldn’t be in a democracy – if we ever really were..

         25 likes

      • The General says:

        And the result of that would be a free pass for the installation of a Left wing Government run by the lunatic fringe who might very well succeed in totally destroying out Democracy and Economy.

           13 likes

        • JosF says:

          That is the long term goal With the BBC and the EU being willing flag carriers.

             0 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      Apparently the pygmy Bercow has decided to stay in post after all.

      Cromwell’s speech covered everything in 1653, from Brexit to expenses fiddling and Bercow staying put…….. funny how 350 years later that speech is as relevant now as it was then. Perhaps it should be pinned up for them all to read as they enter the Chamber.

      “It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place,
      which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice.Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government.Ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess?Ye have no more religion than my horse. Gold is your God. Which of you have not bartered your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defiled this sacred place, and turned the Lord’s temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices?Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance.

      Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God’s help, and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do.I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place.Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

      In the name of God, go!”

         13 likes

  32. Guest Who says:

    Ratings gold.

    The bbc knows what sells.

       29 likes

    • Doobster78 says:

      If ever there was a time for CCBGB this is it. Twitter at its best. HILARIOUS !!!. But people like Jess still think they are the bees knees !!!!!

         23 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Was chatting with Labour voting, pro-Brexit friend, earlier and suggested that McDonnell might arrange for Corbyn to be replaced. Suggested Jess Phillips as an outsider candidate but they didn’t know who she was.

        May well do so soon if that TV ‘drama’ comes off.

        Am so glad I cannot watch telly. 🙂

           17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Let me guess – Keira Knightley? The one who was in the Harry Potter thing ? Or an unemployed actress from ‘ thrones ‘ ? The flea bag one ? The northern lefty luvvie al beeb loves ? Big choice . Can’t believe they havent done “ Cox – the musical “ ( offensive ?).

      Silly season is early this year – if it ever ends !

         24 likes

      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Maybe the Communist one who is currently making a few quid peddling green bullshit lies about smart meters.

           2 likes

      • Jagman84 says:

        No. Maybe Catherine Tate in Lauren Cooper mode?
        “Young men, committing suicide? Am I bovvered?”

           2 likes

    • JamesArthur says:

      Guest
      We are doomed..this woman is a disgrace to the HoP..oh sorry no she is exactly what most of them are like..especially those from the Woman’s only short lists ..and with a foul mouth..
      I didn’t think the BBC could fall lower than it already has..

         10 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      G,

      “Jess Phillips”

      I can never remember her name but I wouldn’t mind betting that at least one of her female MP colleges will be absolutely fuming at this TV deal. (I think that she and not this Phillips woman looked every bit the future darling of the BBC tent).

      You must have seen her sobbing on’t telly at PMQT. She’s the one who always breaks out in tears every time she stood up to criticise everything and everyone who she disagrees with.

      I’m convinced that that female MP had a very well planned agenda from the very first day she entered parliament hoping to attract the attention of the BBC/SKY people. It seems that she wasn’t dishonest enough for the BBC and chucked her.

      Can’t remember her name though?

      And its not that angry SNP lesbian.

         4 likes

    • Banania says:

      Will it end with her being harpooned?

         3 likes

  33. Guest Who says:

    Not the bbc. Might as well have been.

       36 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Interesting difference in the approach of 2 parts of the Sky Corp isn’t it ? As well as some drone doing the drossy ITV breakfast stuff -why dont they just stick to whether some celebrity is pregnant or not – ? Which i assume they do most of the time .

         20 likes

      • Peter Grimes says:

        And Murdoch has noticed it too. Guido posted the other day that TalkRadio, owned by Murdoch?, is to become TalkTv. Apparently Sky News was losing £20 million a year whilst Fox is making $100’s of millions and now that Murdoch doesn’t need to support SkyNews…

           6 likes

  34. john in cheshire says:

    The English Democrats and Robin Tilbrook are moving steadily forward with the court case to establish that we left the EU on 29th. March 2019.

    Daddy Dragon videos on YouTube are quite informative on this matter. They’re worth a look. And as he confirms, there’s a general ban by the MSM on reporting on this case; it had been mentioned I know in the Express. In his latest video he even has an interesting snippet about Mr Farage.

       31 likes

  35. taffman says:

    As we approach the end of the month the message to Al Beeb is ………
    Parliament, Al Beeb and the MSM are versus the People.
    The people can see this .
    What price democracy ?

       23 likes

  36. taffman says:

    One for the global warmists at Al Beeb…………….
    On my rounds this evening the instruments are showing 7 Deg C and falling .
    Is this a normal temperature for the end of May ?

       30 likes

  37. taffman says:

    My message to Al Beeb…………..
    The next government could be The Brexit Party and then, the end of Al Beeb .

       41 likes

  38. taffman says:

    Labour Party says Al Beeb’s Euro promoter Campbell is persona non grata.
    Campbell says he is not .
    How will he spin that ?

       24 likes

  39. pugnazious says:

    The latest Reith Lecture illustrates perfectly the self-delusion, lack of self-awareness, the double-speak and outright lies we get from those who want to Remain in the EU. You can read Lord Sumption’s[ until recently a justice of the UK’s Supreme Court] 2nd lecture here.

    He twists and turns and delivers a fine rhetorical flourish or two to cover up his deviousness as he continually contradicts himself and spins a web of lies to jusitify his Remain position…whilst telling us ‘I’m not going to express a view about either because they are irrelevant to my theme.’ before spending a good deal of his lecture telling us exactly what his views on Brexit and those who support Brexit are.

    ‘There are serious arguments for leaving the European Union and serious arguments for remaining. I’m not going to express a view about either because they are irrelevant to my theme.’

    He goes on to tell us how we must forget the referendum result and consider the ‘national interest’ instead…obviously for him the ‘national interest’ is whatever he thinks is good for himself and his kind.

    ‘ We have to take a view of the national interest which transcends snapshots of the current state of electoral opinion.’

    On the one and he tells us we must accept the rule and legitimacy of the majority….on the other hand obviously not when it comes to Brexit…. he insists such a majority is ‘oppressive’….

    ‘In a democracy the State, with its immense potential, for both good and ill, is ultimately in the hands of electoral majorities, hence comes the great dilemma of modern democracy, how do we control the potentially oppressive power of democratic majorities without undermining democracy itself?

    The legitimacy of State action in a democracy depends on a general acceptance of its decision-making processes, not necessarily of the decisions themselves but of the method of making them.

    Democracies operate on the implicit basis that although the majority has authorised policies which a minority deplores, these differences are transcended by their common acceptance of the legitimacy of its decision-making processes. Self-evidently, majority rule is the basic principle of democracy .[oh hang on, he does a double take and annuls that last…..‘but that only means that a majority is enough to authorise the State’s acts. It isn’t enough to make them legitimate.’ ]

    Here we go….getting down to his true purpose…damning Brexit…

    ‘A democracy cannot operate on the basis that a bare majority takes a hundred percent of the political spoils.

    In England, Madison’s contemporary, the politician and philosopher Edmund Burke, carried this idea further. ‘Parliament,’ he said, ‘was not a congress ofambassadors. Its members were there to represent the national interest and not the opinions of their constituents.’ Now, this might view might be called elitist, and so it is, but political elites have their uses.

    There are other issues on which the opinions of England, which is electorally dominant, differ from those of Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland. Brexit is an issue which raises both of these difficulties. It was the 18th century political philosopher David Hume who first pointed out what he called the ‘incurable narrowness of soul that makes people prefer the immediate to the remote.’

    The real kicker….the ‘national interest’ must transcend current electoral opinion…ie…just ignore Brexit…it’s a terrible idea [in his opinion]….just who decides what the national interest is?…..

    If we are to avoid the same narrowness of soul, we have to take a view of the national interest which transcends snapshots of the current state of electoral opinion.

    Then we get the sob story for politicians who have been robbed of their power…by an appalling referendum…the reason they failed to come to agreement was because the voters took control…except of course that’s not true…Parliament took control and voted Brexit out of existence….

    ‘In a sense, that is what parties are for, it’s what they have always done, but there remains a large body of opinion, in both major national parties, which are strongly opposed to Brexit. One would therefore ordinarily expect the political process to produce a compromise not entirely to the liking of either camp but just about acceptable to both. Now that may yet happen but it has proved exceptionally difficult. Why is that?

    The fundamental reason is the referendum. A referendum is a device for bypassing theordinary political process. It takes decision-making out of the hands of politicians, whose interest is generally to accommodate the widest possible range of opinion, and places it in the hands of individual electors who have no reason to consider any opinion but their own.

    The very object of a referendum is to inhibit an independent assessment of the national interest by professional politicians, which is why it might be thought rather absurd to criticise them for failing to do so. A referendum obstructs compromise by producing a result in which 52 per cent of voters feel entitled to speak for the whole nation and 48 per cent don’t matter at all. ‘

    Then we get the usual cry of ‘nazis’….whilst complaining about people who shout ‘nazi’…..Sumption states that terms like traitor or saboteur or nazi are the authentic language of totalitarianism, just a step away from violence….hmmm….so he calls Brexiteers ‘totalitarian’ as in tyrannical dictator, Hitler-like….isn’t that the authentic language of totalitarianism, just one step away from violence?….

    ‘This is, after all, the tacit assumption of every minister who declares that the British people has approved this or that measure as if only the majority were part of the British people. It is the mentality which has created an unwarranted sense of entitlement among the sort of people who denounce those who disagree with them as enemies, traitors, saboteurs, even Nazis. This is the authentic language of totalitarianism. It is the lowest point to which a political community can sink, short of actual violence.’

    Finally we end on the comic…..he declares referendums are terrible and must never be allowed…however…however….we must have a second referendum to get rid of Brexit……

    ANITA ANAND: But parliament decided on a referendum when it came to Brexit.

    JONATHAN SUMPTION:Yes. Parliament can do many things that are unwise and that are –and that are –and that are inconsistent with the way that democracies ought to work. I am certainly not suggestingthat the referendum was unlawful, I am simply suggesting that it was extremely unwise and that the last three years are an illustration of quite a lot of the reasons why.

    ANITA ANAND: Okay, you’re not a fan. I get that.

    JONATHAN SUMPTION: I’m not a fan of referendums, full stop.

    ANITA ANAND: Okay. So, well, okay, well that answers the second thing. To get us out of this mess, do we need a second referendum?

    JONATHAN SUMPTION: Well, I don’t think we should have had the first.
    ANITA ANAND: No, but we’ve had it now so now how do—–

    JONATHAN SUMPTION: I –I –let me finish my sentence.

    ANITA ANAND: Okay.

    JONATHAN SUMPTION: I don’t think we should have had the first but having had the first, it may well be that the only way that we can get out of the mess created by the first, is to have another one but the moral is not to have as many referendums as possible, the moral is to have none at all.

       45 likes

    • JimS says:

      I’m not a fan of judges making law or ‘judicial reviews’. How does a single person, unelected and unaccountable to the electorate get to have so much power?

      I don’t think they can even claim to be operating ‘in the national interest’, rather just how clever they are in pushing ‘there must be a law against that’ idea. These sort of people infest every organisation, they don’t have a position of authority per se with the resposibility that comes with that but instead take their power from ‘the rule book’.

      Of course ‘authority without responsibility’, (which judges have), is exactly what he accuses the (plebs) people of. The difference is that the judge closes the file and moves on to another (well-paid) case whereas ‘the people’ have to live the consequences, good or bad, of their collective decision.

         6 likes

      • Up2snuff says:

        Jim, in an elective democracy Judges derive their authority from that democracy that elects a Government from the periodic referendums that it takes or makes to choose representatives for the people. Jonathan Sumption should remember that.

        It was an unfortunate trend of the Blair & Brown governments (note the small ‘g’) that they both tried to enshrine things in law. Pass binding laws on politicians and people.

        They had a measure of self interest in that in that the HoC (as Sumption has or should observe) is stacked with lawyers. It is dangerous, again has Sumption has already stated in lecture 1 or 2, that that attempt to bind Parliaments can clash with a change of understanding or desire or fashion over time. BTW, a Judge does have responsibility 1. to the Law, and 2. to the demos, the latter being both under the Law but able to change it. Judges also hate being overturned so they do make an effort to get things right.

        Or should do …

           3 likes

        • JimS says:

          All officials, even down to the lowest social security clerk, get their authority ‘from the democratic process’, and they all have ‘responsibility to get it right’. My point is that a judge can decide that, say, a new social security provision is unlawful, but has no responsibility to balance a budget, manage the organisation or deliver a particular social reform, none of which is trivial or easy.

          Of course government should ‘get it right’ and ‘follow the rules’ but in theory all these checks and balances are built into the parliamentary process, (which is more than just the politicians by the way). As to judges ‘getting it right’ its not exactly rare for judgements to be reversed twice in the appeal process.

          (I find it particularly irksome that well-paid judges can take months/years to come to a conclusion and then pronounce judgement on someone, often paid very little, that made the ‘wrong’ split-second decision. There but by the grace of God, as some say).

             1 likes

    • Peter Grimes says:

      Sumption is a magnificent chronicler of The Hundred Years War but is a p-poor observer of current events.
      Interesting point in quoting Burke, who was an inspiration to, inter alia, Thomas Jefferson – there is a bust of Burke in Jefferson’s study/bedroom at Monticello. America did not have a government as such when Jefferson and others decided that not paying taxes to England and instead going to war with them was good for its people. America’s people took up this struggle so well that they beat an empire, one which was much less malevolent than the EU is shaping up to be.

         2 likes

    • Peter Grimes says:

      I went off Sumption even more when I read this morning’s Speccie Diary-

      “History will be kinder to her than we have been. Faced with what many regard as an act of economic vandalism by a bare majority of the electorate, she did her loyal best to limit the damage. Her mistake was to repudiate those who would have been her natural allies. Instead, she made her pitch to the grim fanatics behind her, with whom no agreement on damage limitation was ever possible. Their guide was faith, not reason; compromise was treason and the EU was the Antichrist. Naturally, they responded by devouring her, and destroying their own party in the process. But by the time she realised this, it was too late. May’s courage in the face of adversity commands respect. She was let down by her insularity, which deprived her of wise advice, and by her own utter lack of political imagination, tactical agility or basic communication skills.”

      Only partly true bit is the last sentence. Tends to prove the old saw that most judges do not live in the real world.

         2 likes

  40. Lucy Pevensey says:

       37 likes

  41. Richard Pinder says:

    My local Tory MP who voted Remain and for Theresa Mays £39 Billion surrender document, three times, is now found grinning in the local media, visiting and supporting a local Schools climate change propaganda policy, brainwashing school children to support Green party policies before they learn anything about Physics to challenge the hoax and support the Brexit Party. Meanwhile my local Brexit MEP John Longworth is also a scientist with a Master of Science degree in Physics and therefore like that other one in the Labour Party and Peter Lilly, listed as a climate science denier by left-wing green party activists. Also in Yorkshire the Yorkshire National Party beat Change UK by 20,680 votes.

       45 likes

  42. Halifax says:

    BBC reporting with some glee that Real Madrid Are the world’s most prosperous club according to KMPG…..however what the real headline should say is that (It’s in thier own report)

    Absolute dominance’
    Mr Sartori added: “At league level the English Premier league has confirmed its absolute dominance, having nine clubs in the top 32 and accounting for 43% of the total aggregate value…

    So let’s not report that English football has absolute dominance let’s report a Spanish club is top. Yet another example of the FBBC not wishing to report positives about England or the UK……

    We are paying for this I cannot believe it. In no other country would you HAVE to pay or go to prison for not paying the resulting fine for not wishing to subscribe to a TV channel thats dedicated to undermining a country and culture that has contributed more to the world than any other over the last 400 years…..

    How hard would it be to say “Madrid top the club rich list however English premier leauge clubs continue to absolutely dominate”……Not a cat in hells chance.

       31 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      Isn’t State Broadcaster inverting the ‘losers won the EU Parliament Election’ analysis promoted by Campbell and others?

      When it suits top dog gets the limelight.

         4 likes

  43. Richard Pinder says:

    On BBC 2 at 9.30 pm Tuesday, Brian Cox made a huge error in his new documentary “The Planets”. He used the raditive hoax and black body temperature hypothesis for the greenhouse effect when he should have used the atmospheric mass/gravity/pressure Greenhouse effect of James Clark Maxwell, found in 1888. Gravity pulling molecules downward producing the heat gradient. A hypothesis using the grey body temperature that was proven and turned into a Theory in 2011 by Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller, who provided the formula that works for both the carbon dioxide atmospheres of Venus and Mars and all the other known planetary atmospheres in the Solar System.

    To further correct the BBC. From Venus the Sun appears 38 percent bigger than it does from the Earth, thus on Venus the Oceans have evaporated and molecules of water in its atmosphere were broken up by short-wave radiation from the Sun, and then re-combined to form molecules of oxygen and hydrogen; the lighter hydrogen rose to the top of the atmosphere and has escaped into space while the oxygen combined with carbon from the rocks to produce an atmosphere that is 96.5 percent CO2 and 93 times both the mass and the surface pressure of the Earths Atmosphere as well as having a quarter of a million times more CO2 than the Earth. But in one billion years the same process will occur on the Earth as the Oceans will turn to gas, adding to the Atmosphere, this would produce an Atmosphere three times the mass of that of the Venusian atmosphere, but also shows that Venus could have lost two thirds of its atmosphere into space since the Venusian Oceans turned into Atmospheric gas. Also I think I heard that the surface pressure of the Atmosphere of Venus just before the Oceans boiled away must have been over ten bar.

    But this means that the BBC has made a huge error or falsehood. Or as Donald Trump would say, a hoax.

    If any of the BBC,s 24 “best scientific experts” who don’t have any scientific qualifications, such as the one who thinks men and apes did not evolve from monkeys, read the article above. The above scientists are not science deniers, just deniers of an assumption due to evidence that the Greenhouse effect that Brian Cox was talking about has been falsified as a hoax.

       43 likes

    • Celtic_Mist says:

      RP, Did a bit of Googling and found this article –

      “Science is a process of getting it wrong and hopefully learning – on this single issue Michael Hammer and the IPCC can’t both be right.”
      https://jennifermarohasy.com/2009/03/radical-new-hypothesis-on-the-effect-of-greenhouse-gases/

      If Michael Hammer is correct it appears that it would undermine the IPCC models on Climate Change.

      The BBC wouldn’t want Brian Cox undermining their climate alarmist propaganda and Cox is happy to play along?

         28 likes

      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Cox is happy to gurn away on TV in return for a massive pay cheque.

           5 likes

      • Richard Pinder says:

        This is a bit like the paper “Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics“. But does not produce the answer, only proof of the hoax. You need an Einstein or someone with an IQ of 164 to find a simple answer. The “Unified Theory of Climate” is far more simpler than you would expect. Its far more simpler than Ferenc Miskolczi’s work on Mars which was very much a highly complex and nerdy heat input and output observational paper, but did not produce any answers that could be transferred to understand what they call the special case of Venus, which isn’t a special case after all.

        People trained to understand the nature of heat in thermodynamics would understand that molecules move about like tiny hammers bashing about the place creating the illusion of heat. Gravity pulls the molecules downwards and decelerates those going upwards producing a temperature gradient in line with atmospheric pressure. An atmosphere lower than one tenth of a bar has radiation from space dominating the temperature gradient. Simple.

        Two 19th Century scientists James Clerk Maxwell and William Herschel were correct. One 19th Century scientist Svante Arrhenius produced the most damaging and expensive mistake in the history of science. A mistake that attracts the thickest left-wing morons in society.

           3 likes

        • Celtic_Mist says:

          Even the expression ‘Green house effect’ is a lie –

          “The name, greenhouse effect is unfortunate, for a real greenhouse does not behave as the atmosphere does. The primary mechanism keeping the air warm in a real greenhouse is the suppression of convection (the exchange of air between the inside and outside). Thus, a real greenhouse does act like a blanket to prevent bubbles of warm air from being carried away from the surface. As we have seen, this is not how the atmosphere keeps the Earth’s surface warm”

          I took that from a page with the definition of brainwashing at the top-

          “Be very, very careful what you put into that head,
          because you will never, ever get it out.
          Thomas Cardinal Wolsey (1471-1530)”

          https://www.ems.psu.edu/~fraser/Bad/BadGreenhouse.html

             4 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Richard,

      I hope you can answer this question that confuses me?

      I’m told that the moon is 250,000 miles from the earth.

      Q 1) Is this when the moon it so big that at times it looks like it’s near touching the earth. I think during our summer time?

      Or is it when the moon is so far away that it looks like a tiny dot?

      And if its Q 1) why does it take so long for Nasa to get there? It looks close enough for Branson’s failed space ship to get there in a few hours.

         4 likes

      • JimS says:

        The closest the Moon gets to the Earth is 356,400 km (221, 457 miles) and the furthest is 406, 700 km (252, 712 miles).

        If you hold out your arm towards the Moon you will find that it is about the size of your thumbnail all the time. When the Moon is low in the sky it appears to be larger than when it is high in the sky. Supposedly this is because when it is low in the sky it appears to be comparable to objects like houses and trees , when it is high there is nothing to compare it to except the very small, (because of distance), stars.

        The Apollo mission had to get men to the Moon and back which isn’t a trivial matter as rockets launched from the Earth are only marginally capable of taking off at all, (the mass of the fuel is the greater part of the mass of the rocket leaving very little margin for the ‘payload’). This link might help.

           7 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Jim /ves

          Reminds me of that wonderful bit in Father Ted where he is trying to explain to the idiot priest the different between cows being ‘near ‘ and ‘far away ‘😎(it’s on YouTube )

          For anyone into the Apollo stuff – there are a few programmes on the excellent PBS America describing the development of the project . It played down the involvement of the war criminal verner Von Braun though – building the V1 and V2 and firing them in large numbers at south east England was discounted …

             4 likes

        • Richard Pinder says:

          I have been 12 miles up at a speed of 1,400 mph over the North Sea in a British aircraft called Concorde. Due to Brexit, I could now travel to the Moon in a British spaceship called Skylon. An air breathing rocket engine invented by British inventor Alan Bond and Reaction Engines Ltd called SABRE could be performing unmanned test flights by 2025.

          Rolls-Royce and BAE Systems are also investors in the SABRE engine development. An Orbital Base Station could be built for the Skylon spacecraft. The structure is based on a cylinder, designed to allow space inside the cylindrical section for the preparation and refuelling of the Skylon spacecraft for me to travel to and then orbit but not land on the Moon, then returning to Newquay Spaceport.

          A one week British holiday from Yorkshire to Newquay Spaceport to Orbital Base Station to Moon Orbit to Newquay Spaceport back to Yorkshire. Nice.

             1 likes

      • vesnadog says:

        Jim,

        But as I looking at the moon through naked yes when its at its biggest it is much larger than it is when its very small?

        Thanks for the Intel anyway.

           0 likes

  44. Guest Who says:

    The comments…

    🙂

       8 likes

  45. Guest Who says:

    The bbc knows who it likes. Moaning emole:

    Bercow plans to stay on as Speaker

    “He’s crossed swords with ministers and angered Brexiteers, gaining a cult following across Europe in the process, but it seems Commons Speaker John Bercow is not – as some thought – leaving his chair any time soon. With “momentous events” taking place and “great issues to be resolved”, he tells the Guardian it “doesn’t seem… sensible to vacate the chair”. He’s talking about Brexit. It’s a matter over which some Conservatives have accused him of bias, with one trying to have him removed. In March, our parliamentary correspondent Mark D’Arcy wondered if we had reached “Peak Bercow” and there was manoeuvring by potential successors . Perhaps it was all a bit premature…”

    Seems he’s a bit of a cult.

       31 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest – Bercow really does embody the disconnect of people and the political class. He has allowed his personal views , dressed up as duty , to , to help destroy the reputation of the institution .
      Add that to his personal view of the Head of State of the most powerful country in the world and we really do have a ‘lidl’ level speaker as opposed to a ‘waitrose’ one ( I use neither ).

         25 likes

      • taffman says:

        Napoleon complex ?

           19 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          What was the name of the new leader who emerged to head the Citizen’s Assembly at the conclusion of Animal Farm?

             14 likes

          • Dover Sentry says:

            He’s a superb recruitment asset for The Brexit Party.

            Let him stay, I say 🙂

               12 likes

        • Up2snuff says:

          taffman, Napolean Complex? Aah, a companion for M’sieu Macron.

             4 likes

      • vesnadog says:

        Fed,

        My mother always used to tell us kids that whenever a very short nobody thought himself a VIP; she always said:

        “his A##e is to near tut’ floor to be awkward”

           5 likes

        • Fedup2 says:

          Ves
          Being some one very tall – I have often been on the receiving end of ‘small man syndrome’ – I have considered it something sad but Bercow turns it into a brutal vindictive thing as shown by his treatment of Mrs leadsom and there others he bullies in public . Dreadful man .

             8 likes

  46. Fedup2 says:

    Guest
    I’m going to get fedup with popcorn at the current rate . Ok the the BBC is fixated on their best friend – Alistair mental Campbell .
    So he gets thrown out of The Party He Loves for voting liberal. But now other Labour members are also admitting voting elsewhere . Will they be thrown out too ? Surely they must ?

    It smacks of a kind of Stalinism much admired by comrade McDonnell .

    What does the Labour Kremlin do ? Ignore the others and increase the Alistair mental Campbell ability to stride into TV studios playing an ego driven victim ? Or throw those who admitted they voted else where – including apparently real MPs – out?

    This is why I might get fedup with popcorn . Now that the issue has become threatening to the socialists I think the BBC will get its customers to look elsewhere .

    I’ve got to say it gives me great pleasure 2 see the ‘monopoly’ parties in difficulty – both deserve it so much for their poor government of the UK ( see unrestricted immigration for s start ).

    As for your link to Sopel – nice to see him on the receiving end from some of his traditional ‘friends ‘.

       26 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

      And no one inside has noticed because the doors to the bubble are closed.

      But I do get to wonder if within it there are a few amongst the Bercows, Abbotts, Lammys, Soubreys, Eslers, Maitlises, Vines, YABs, Pollys, Campbells, etc who on occasion look around and think ‘is it any wonder the public alternate between distain and derision as we all expose ourselves in the world’s most bizarre reality show?’.

      My concern is that I can and do find tv choices that serve. But Politically there is almost nothing worth considering. However leaving it to Blair’s politicised civil service is not an option.

         31 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Fed,

      “comrade McDonnell ”

      Never seen him smile once.

         4 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Ves
        He does now when he remembers – he’s been ‘treated ‘ by advisors _ who told him to use phrases like ‘a little bit more ‘ – in terms of increases taxes by billions .

        It doesn’t really work for him – a man who said he could never be on personal friendly terms with a Tory , long time IRA supporter and brooder in the same way that Gordon Brown was .
        I wonder if he might be similar to Gordon Brown in the sense of putting all his energy and scheming into becoming top dog but not really knowing what to do when he got there…

           3 likes

        • vesnadog says:

          Fed,

          “He does now when he remembers – he’s been ‘treated ‘ by advisors”

          His Advisors. Says it all.

             0 likes

  47. The Sage says:

    Great headline from today’s BBC website:
    “Climate activism failing to represent BAME groups, say campaigners”
    Says it all, really.

       28 likes

    • Halifax says:

      I still laugh at the climate activists on Vauxhall bridge or wherever making the group porridge on a calor gas cooker !!!…..they haven’t got a clue it’s just a focal point for alternative lifestyle hippys…..

         19 likes

      • vesnadog says:

        Halifax,

        “climate activists”

        Someone should tell those idiots to go and buy 20 @ 15 kg Calor Gas bottle refils so they they can then form a circle around them on Westminster Bridge then have a group “hummm” – that way they won’t need to go to Stonehenge every year. Save on the taxi fare as well.

           3 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      You could have stopped at “Climate activism failing”.

         3 likes

  48. Guest Who says:

    OT, but guessing a degree in nursing is needed for all the stuff that has near zero to do with patient care?

       20 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      There is recent legal precedent that says nurses are not allowed to PROMOTE their own religion at work
      #GreenReligion, #DramaGreening #FakeGreens are a cult

         4 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        I take it the case was heard by Lord `justice Satan and a couple of his Devils ….

           4 likes

  49. Guest Who says:

    Rob falls back on ‘it’s true because the bbc says it is’.

    Good luck with that, Rob.

       14 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      I’d like to interview Rob and Priti Patel.

      I’d ask Priti how many more votes Leave would have got had the BBC not been utterly bent.

      I’d then ask Rob where in the production hierarchy of the BBC Jasmine Lawrence was now.

      See, Rob, that is what controlling the broadcast production means.

         22 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      “will ask the right questions”

      And will receive the right answers.

         2 likes