Mid Week Open Thread 22 May 2019

Having looked at the average turn out for EU elections the UK average is about 35% against an EU average of 42%. All indications are that the turn out will be far higher for the UK this time . But notice something – no public leader debates on the TV – and possible breaches of election law by the BBC in their coverage .

We wont find out the results of the EU Elections until Sunday the 26th May . The bigger the vote for The Brexit Party – the bigger the distraction exercise by the BBC …

Oh Yes – and if you vote – please use a pen .

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397 Responses to Mid Week Open Thread 22 May 2019

  1. Celtic_Mist says:

    Keep your heads down –

       50 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Kate.

      Its called: fortunes of war.

      But our opposition are actually cowards who send their own children to carry out their dirty tricks.

         14 likes

  2. Celtic_Mist says:

    Guido

       16 likes

  3. Lucy Pevensey says:

    A little fake news for entertainment purposes 🙂 It did put a smile on my face.

       23 likes

  4. TrueToo says:

    Fedup2,

    Thanks for the info on the last thread on Tommy Robinson’s chances in this election. In this clip he has fun confronting the aggressive ‘anti-fascists’ and telling them a few times that he will be their MEP.

    If he does get voted in, I’m not sure how he will occupy his seat in the EU parliament since, if I have this right, the date that elected MEPs will first sit in that parliament happens to coincide with his new trial date for ‘contempt’ of court. Just coincidence, I suppose.

    Anyway, all the best for you guys today!

       29 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      True
      Thanks
      I’m gaming out , prematurely , how the BBC will deal with the ReichEU election results . So far it goes like this –

      Ignore
      Brexit Party didn’t do as well as expected
      Lib Dem’s are the future
      Change UK did better than expected
      Resounding success across EU for EU parties

      Farage is a spent force
      Must be a Remain referendum now
      ‘ Far right’ Defeated

      Can pick any selection or all of these …

      On the other hand ( if Brexit Party does well )

      Brexit Party fails to win ‘ popular ‘ vote
      Illegal money taints election
      Concentrate on an EU state where EU was favoured
      They didn’t know what they voted for
      It didn’t reflect the original referendum
      The other parties were weak and divided
      There was voting’ irregularity ‘
      Remainers call on Electoral Commission again
      It only happened because of Tory weakness

      Come the result I wonder how many of these the BBC will put into action …

         30 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      I suspect TR will face trial soon after the election and be put away for over a year, thereby forfeiting his place.

         7 likes

  5. Annunaki says:

    Muslim genocide: (Europe next if they have their way)

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-48333923

    The Archbishop of Irbil, the capital of Iraqi Kurdistan, has accused Britain’s Christian leaders of failing to do enough in defence of the vanishing Christian community in Iraq.

    In an impassioned address in London, the Rt Rev Bashar Warda said Iraq’s Christians now faced extinction after 1,400 years of persecution.

    Since the US-led invasion toppled the regime of Saddam Hussein in 2003, he said, the Christian community had dwindled by 83%, from around 1.5 million to just 250,000.

    “Christianity in Iraq,” he said, “one of the oldest Churches, if not the oldest Church in the world, is perilously close to extinction. Those of us who remain must be ready to face martyrdom.”

    He referred to the current, pressing threat from Islamic State (IS) jihadists as a “final, existential struggle”, following the group’s initial assault in 2014 that displaced more than 125,000 Christians from their historic homelands.

    “Our tormentors confiscated our present,” he said, “while seeking to wipe out our history and destroy our future. In Iraq there is no redress for those who have lost properties, homes and businesses. Tens of thousands of Christians have nothing to show for their life’s work, for generations of work, in places where their families have lived, maybe, for thousands of years.”

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      It’s not clear what happened prior to the film clip but this is rather disturbing. The Police made sure the filming was shut down promptly as can be seen so no evidence of what happened next.

         20 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Looks like they’ve been taking lessons from the French Riot Police . Bullies when in numbers .

           17 likes

        • Scroblene says:

          What we really need is a competent Home Secretary to deal with this, but with such a weak PM pulling the chain, it’ll never happen sadly.

             10 likes

    • vlad says:

      “Iraq’s Christians ‘close to extinction”

      Genocide should be on al-beeb’s Home page.

      But of course it’s the wrong people being genocided and the wrong people doing the genociding.

      So where do they stick it? In Regions where they hope no-one will see, meanwhile giving a front-page slot to the earth-shattering news that ‘Transgender women given access to Hampstead Heath ponds’.

      Glad they’ve got their priorities right.

         19 likes

  6. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Just for fun while we’re waiting for our Brexit boys to win by a landslide.

    Can you give a famous film or book quote which can be used for our eu shenanigans.

    Here’s mine for when we leave.
    From Karmenu Vella, the eu minister for fishing.

    Taken from HHGTTG.
    “So long and thanks for all the fish”

       17 likes

    • Rich says:

      Here’s one for you Manny, more to do with our visitors from the EU, as well as further afield, and one of the reasons many of us voted the way that we did.

      Big Liam Neeson just can’t help himself can he? This is from “Taken”, he’s speaking to the group of Albanian gangsters who kidnapped his daughter, they don’t know who he is yet, just before he kills all round him.

      ” You come to this country, take advantage of the system and think because we are tolerant we are weak and helpless.

      Your arrogance offends me. “

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    • TrickCyclist says:

      EG,
      Almost embarrassed I know this one, but it seems fitting;
      Old Biff to his teenage self in Back To The Future 2:
      “It’s LEAVE you idiot! Make like a tree and LEAVE!”

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  7. Lucy Pevensey says:

    EG,

    A book and a film.

    Treebeard from The Lord of The Rings to the British Parliament-
    “There is no curse in Elvish, Entish or the tongues of men for THIS TREACHERY!

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  8. digg says:

    Returning to the issue of food banks, from my experience I note 2 things.

    1. Most of the good folks running them are either retired quite comfortably off people on the liberal side… “virtue signalling?” or Lib left-leaning folks.. “trying to make brownie points?).

    2. The stuff is free, maybe thats why its so popular…. Whats not to like?

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    • Burgsey says:

      …it means the money you have saved on the free food can be spent on other things like booze, fags, drugs, the newest shiniest smart phone etc. We have so many people using food banks that we now have an obesity crisis!

         2 likes

  9. Fedup2 says:

    Al Pacino in Godfather 2? – you know the one …just when I thought I was out ……

       7 likes

    • theleftwilleatitself says:

      Was that not Carlito’s Way, also starring the great Al Pacino?

         5 likes

      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        The line’s from Godfather 3 I think. Not a patch on the first two.

        How sad that the Trump deranged Robert de Niro is now reduced to advertising Warburtons bagels. What a pillock.

           13 likes

        • The WestWyvern says:

          Line from ‘The Dambusters’

          ‘Goner’

          Or specifically ‘Goner10’ radioed by the aircrew to indicate an impact and explosion by the upkeep mine and significant dam breach.

          Brave lads on that raid, lets not let them down.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Rob
          I disagree – the Godfather 3 was by far the best because of Sophia Copollas world class acting …😁 spoiler alert .

          If you have not seen Godfather 3 – never see it ….

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  10. Demon says:

    Some on the Remain side (“Lib” “Dem”) have claimed that their party is the only party for Remain, and both Cons and Labour are Brexit parties. Therefore the Brexit side must add all votes for Brexit Party, UKIP, SDP, DUP, UUP, Conservative and Labour and prove that 80% of people have voted for Brexit parties according to them.

    Therefore no further referendum will be necessary as the people have voted Leave, so we must follow the policy of the top voted leave party, presumably the Brexit Party. That means we must leave on WTO.

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    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      Demon:

      There is no need to leave on WTO terms. We should offer the EU a full Free Trade Agreement. They can turn it down if they want, but given we have a massive trade deficit, it would not make much sense for them to do so.

      The Irish backstop is a bogus answer to a non-existent problem. No-one wants a hard border, everyone wants a sensible solution. It is solvable if people wish to solve it.

      We should only move to WTO rules if the EU rejects our fair offer of a full FTA. If so, it will be on them. Let’s see how BMW, Mercedes, VW and the rest will react to 10% tariffs.

      We desperately need a new prime minister with the common sense to tear up the “withdrawal agreement” and offer the EU a full FTA. That’s all we can do. It will be up to the EU to reject it if they want to, which will at least show them up as the despicable, out of touch empire builders we all suspect they are.

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      • Burgsey says:

        Rob, spot on; its all very simple if you strip out all the rhetotic and pontification that is going on by remain politicians to avoid doing what they have been instructed to do. No deal is the only way to get a decent deal.

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      • Demon says:

        Rob, I totally agree with what you say. We could have offerred the deal 3 years ago and left in March whether they agreed the deal or not.

        My main point was using their own ridiculous claims against them. A few of them have clsimed that both the Conservative and Labour parties are Brexit parties.

        Very well, we’ll take them at their word and add their total to those of the real Brexit parties and swamp the combined totals of the “Lib” “Dems”, Greens, “Changelings” and the Scottish, Welsh and Irish National Socialists.

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  11. vlad says:

    The revolting Grauniad’s headline:

    “London Bridge attacker ‘was in handcuffs when police fired shots’ ”

    Oh dear, I think I can see where this is going.

    What they should have done of course is read him his rights, ending with: we are about to arrest you so if you’d like to detonate your explosive belt, now is the time to do it.

       35 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Tried the BBC 5 clock news – lawyers££££ bleating about cuts in the Legal Aid milk train .. followed by a kill job on President Trump where they play democrats critical of him – followed by …. you guessed it – a Democrat ‘commentator ‘ in the studio – with no alternative view – now that’s unbiased objective journalism right ?

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  12. Annunaki says:

    Far left BBC News (real name Bahgdad Broadcasting Corporation)

    STOP the PRESS !!! we have found a white British child abuser HEADLINE NEWS !!!!!

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  13. Annunaki says:

    March 2018 Christian Concern:

    https://www.christianconcern.com/our-issues/islam/sacrificing-girls-to-political-correctness

    Britain’s ‘worst ever’ child grooming scandal
    The front-page headline of the Sunday Mirror last week read “‘Worst ever’ child grooming scandal exposed: Hundreds of young girls raped, beaten, sold for sex and some even Killed over 40 years, as authorities failed to act.”

    The story is a somewhat familiar one, with white or Sikh British girls, some as young as 11 years old, being drugged, raped and beaten by ‘Asian’ sex gangs over an extended period of time. In this context, ‘Asian’ is a euphemism for ‘men of Muslim background, predominantly Pakistani’. It is familiar story because of the exposures of similar sex gangs in Rotherham, Rochdale, Oxfordshire, and various other places.

    Fear of ‘racism’
    The Mirror conducted an 18-month investigation and found that as many as 1,000 children could have suffered at the hands of sex gangs since the 1980s. Victims say that the abuse of young girls is ongoing today.

    The investigation found that social workers knew of the abuse in the 1990s, but police took a decade to launch a probe. Authorities failed to keep details of abusers from Asian communities for fear of ‘racism’. Council staff viewed the abused children as ‘prostitutes’ instead of victims. Police failed to investigate one recent case five times until an MP intervened.

    Just last month, an inquiry raised the number of victims in Rotherham of child sexual exploitation to 1,510. The number of victims was previously estimated to be 1,400. This in a community of 260,000. Telford’s population is 170,000, and the scale of abuse there is feared to be the most brutal and long running of all.

    The Scapegoating of Rotherham
    In his book about the grooming scandals, Peter McLoughlin explains how Rotherham was the designated scapegoat for these rape gangs. The Jay Report was an inquiry into Child Sexual Exploitation in Rotherham. The Casey Report also focussed on Rotherham. These investigations resulted in the entire council cabinet resigning and the government taking over. But Rotherham is not the only place where this has been taking place and where local government and other officials have been turning a blind eye in the name of political correctness. Why have there not been similar inquiries into child sexual exploitation in Bradford, Oldham, Oxford, Rochdale, Bristol, … , and Telford? If the councils in these cities were held to the same standards, then they should all be resigning. Rotherham is a convenient scapegoat to hide the full scale of the abuse elsewhere.

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    • Banania says:

      1000 is an absurdly low estimate of the number of children involved. ! million might be more realistic.

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  14. Annunaki says:

    The Islamic Connection
    The Casey Report makes clear that the child exploitation in Rotherham was carried out by men largely from the Pakistani Heritage Community. They are mostly Muslims. Victims of these grooming gangs have frequently reported that they were given an Asian name and told to read the Qur’an which also demonstrates the extent of Islamic influence.

    Use of sex slaves by Islamists is now well known, whether it is by Boko Haram taking girls captive, or by ISIS fighters, or other Islamic groups. These groups justify their actions by reference to the Qur’an:

    “O Prophet, tell your wives and your daughters and the women of the believers to bring down over themselves [part] of their outer garments. That is more suitable that they will be known and not be abused.” (Quran 33:59)

    Women and girls are to cover up if they do not intend to invite abuse. In this way, non-Muslim girls who do not cover up are seen as inviting abuse.

    Slavery is also discussed in the Qur’an, and slave women are described as “those your right hand possess.”

    “And [also prohibited to you are all] married women except those your right hands possess.” (Quran 4:24)

    This means that Muslims are permitted to rape female slaves – even if they are married. This teaching is even clearer in the Hadith:

    “O Allah’s Messenger! We get female captives as our share of booty, and we are interested in their prices, what is your opinion about coitus interruptus?” The Prophet said, “Do you really do that? It is better for you not to do it. No soul that which Allah has destined to exist, but will surely come into existence.” (Bukhari 3:34:432)

    Here, Muhammad’s followers are concerned that the value of their female slaves might deteriorate if they became pregnant after being raped. Muhammad advises against using coitus interruptus to avoid pregnancy.

    Multiculturalism to blame
    I have recently written in more depth about multiculturalism and how it is based on the idea that all cultures are equal. In the worst examples of the doctrine of multiculturalism being applied, those convicted of serious crimes are excused because of their culture. In one case in 2013, A Muslim man in Nottingham who raped an underage girl was spared a prison term after the judge heard that the man had been taught in an Islamic faith school that women are worthless. Here Islamic values are being used by a judge to no prison sentence child rape. This undermines the fundamental principle of one law for all.

    What is even more problematic is that Islamic values are rarely mentioned as a factor in explaining these rape gangs. There is a conspiracy of silence even at the cost of more girls being raped. Until we recognise the strong Islamic cultural factors involved, we will not be able to properly tackle this problem. Multiculturalism and political correctness continue to prevent us from properly protecting young girls.

    Government denies Islamic connection
    This week, Lord Pearson asked a question in the House of Lords about the Islamic connection with these rape gangs. Replying on behalf of the government, Lord Young said:

    “There is nothing in the Koran that encourages the sort of activity the noble Lord has referred to. … Islam, like all world religions, does not support, advocate or condone child sexual exploitation. Indeed, respect for women is inherent in its faith.”

    This is classic multiculturalist nonsense according to which all religions are basically the same, and all are forces for good in the world. If only that were true, but it is demonstrably false. Many Muslims would disagree with Lord Young. He should try reading the Qur’an for himself. I recommend starting with Surah 4 for what the Qur’an says about women.

    How many girls sacrificed?
    How many girls have suffered at the hands of these rape gangs? We know it has been going on for over 40 years, and still more details keep coming out in more locations. Only last month I saw a formal letter from a school warning parents about an Asian man looking suspiciously at young girls on the way to and from school in greater London.

    Thousands of girls have been sacrificed on the altar of multiculturalism. Teachers, police officers, social workers, schools, local authorities, and others have turned a blind eye for fear of being called ‘racist’, even though criticising a culture or a religion is not strictly racism. Denial of the Islamic connection is a denial of truth and a denial that contributes to the perpetuation of these crimes. Multiculturalism and political correctness have a lot to answer for. How many more girls will be sacrificed to these ideologies?

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      A
      You can thank Blair, Brown, Mandelson and Co.
      They imported many of their new voters whose committed the mass gang rapes.
      Then tried to stop the rape reports becoming public knowledge.
      New Labour should be put in a roomful of the victims for half an hour.

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  15. Annunaki says:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/rotherham-sex-gang-survivor-living-13656050

    A victim of the Rotherham child sex gang has revealed she’s living in fear that her rapist could ‘walk through the door at any moment’ after the local council offered her attacker access to her son.

    Sammy Woodhouse was drugged, abused and threatened at gunpoint by the gang before being raped by ringleader Arshid Hussain, 43, when she was just 15.

    Hussain – who is serving 35 years for raping nine victims – was not named on the birth certificate of her son who resulted from the attack and had no parental responsibility.

    But despite this, Rotherham Council contacted Hussain and asked if he would like to apply for access to see the child.

    “I was completely shocked and mortified. I thought when I testified in court and he was sentence to 35 years I thought that was it, I can move on,” Miss Woodhouse told Good Morning Britain today

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  16. countryblues says:

    Eurovision voting irregularities : heartbroken UK deducted points. We have moved from last place to…er…far-last place. 🙂

       22 likes

  17. Kaiser says:

    just been to vote

    strangely quiet , barely busier than the local elections

    kind of odd as this place is stuffed full of middle class arty festival types, I thought they would be out showing their devotion to their beloved EUSSR

       19 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Kaiser
      Maybe they’ll try that last minute thing where they are still queueing at 2200 when the Poll closes and they can claim that the vote was illegitimate ….

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  18. Fedup2 says:

    On Eurovision -Was someone using a pencil to vote ? Were remainers counting the ballots ?

    I’ve got an idea – the country which comes last gets to ‘host’ the Eurovision the following year . That way the quality to ‘entries ‘( nearly said ‘songs’) would go up straight away – if anyone cares that is .

       15 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      The irony is that the TV Tax payer part funds Eurovision win or lose.

         10 likes

  19. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/05/23/stop-plotting-against-theresa-may-back-brexit-deal-jean-claude/

    “Stop plotting against Theresa May and back the Brexit deal, Jean-Claude Juncker tells MPs”
    Tusk, Juncker, Verhofstadt and the other leading European traitors, have no shame.
    Just a feeling of (imaginary) superiority.

    Hopefully this will be the final time these grade one ****s try to interfere in UK affairs.
    In future the UK should be assisting all efforts to dismantle the Evil Empire of the lying Eurocrats.

       20 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      I can see that having got the deal they wanted the winner in a negotiation would be keen for the loser to sign on the dotted line.

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  20. Halifax says:

    Just been to vote. They had a special prodder to push the votes in looks like plenty of votes. Oh if your forming a party Nigel call it Brexit Party and not The Brexit Party…..it’s way down the list…..Anyway done my duty and voted for The Brexit Party….. have you done yours ,???

       27 likes

    • G.W.F. says:

      I voted for the Brexit Party. I wanted to vote for UKIP but decided to vote tactically. Stick around UKIP we are going to need you..

         20 likes

    • RobRoy says:

      Three votes for the Brexit Party from this house.

         9 likes

  21. Scroblene says:

    Just wondering, but why are Radio5 Dead always asking opinions from some journo on Bloomberg?

    I thought the tv tax was enough to cover their own autocue readers’ wages, not for them to go scampering around to see what the others think! Can’t they make up their own stories any more?

    Of course, with dear, sad old Nick and Andrew, the rules are read out to them at prayers every morning and while they think they’re smart, it’s a foregone conclusion that they’ve been told what to ask!

    The dark arts of unpleasantness have always been an issue in journalism. Newspaper owners thrived on it, and with paymasters like the majority of left-wing politicos these days, most dead tree rags (except the DT), are not really up to doing a reasonable job, so they’re largely ignored.

    The BBBC is a prime example of a ‘service’ in terminal decline, with Sky a close second.

    I loved Mr Farage’s comment on the fact that denying the BBC future funds is creeping up their agenda! Bring it on!

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  22. tapwatertory says:

    Just drove through the Muslim area of Burnley and it’s full of donuts wearing labour t-shirts knocking on doors trying muster support.

    They haven’t been near any other part of the town.

    Anyway done my bit.

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  23. Annunaki says:

    Pupils have written to campaigners asking them not to “disturb us” as demonstrations continue over the teaching of LGBT lessons.

    Protests have been taking place outside Anderton Park Primary School in Birmingham for more than seven weeks – with police officers present on Monday.

    They say the lessons at the Sparkhill school are intolerant of Islamic beliefs and are “indoctrinating” children by teaching them about same-sex relationships and gender identity.

    Head teacher Sarah Hewitt-Clarkson tweeted the letter written by two students, saying: “Protesters: Please read this plea from two of our children at Anderton Park. Thank you.”

    Protesters: Please read this plea from two of our children ⁦@AndertonPark⁩ . Thank you . pic.twitter.com/AYjwSk6Bht
    — Sarah HewittClarkson (@MrsSHC) May 22, 2019

    The letter read: “We are unhappy because you are being rude to all of the students and teachers, especially our headteacher.

    “So please don’t disturb us when we are trying to learn and don’t lie to us. Thank you.”

    On Tuesday, West Midlands Police Chief Constable Dave Thompson said there was no place for lawful or unlawful protests outside primary schools.

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

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      “On Tuesday, West Midlands Police Chief Constable Dave Thompson said there was no place for lawful or unlawful protests outside primary schools.”
      No room for lawful protests?

      Please report non crime incidents for us to record!

      Boris or whoever is the next PM needs to dismiss ALL the Chief Constables and other high ranking Common Purpose non police . Sack all the Police Commissioners.

      Good Police Officers, well equipped, well paid, doing REAL police work. Not doing non police work.

      My rough calculation is two million lefties in the public sector are paid for anti UK activity.

      Drain the swamp.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        Well Paid? When I complain about MPs poor pay, at £75K pa some people say they are paid to much and that £75K is a lot of money.

        Well our hopeless PC Chief PCs are earning close to £200K ! That’s more than the Prime Minister !

        Performance related pay is the answer, and also a special pink frilly uniform for the most PC of the lot, with half the pay, and complete loss of pension if the holder of the office decides to resign mid term.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Yes – well paid – and police commissioners were another dumb idea from Cameron . Sack them all . And cut MP pay …

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    • JimS says:

      Head teacher Sarah Hewitt-Clarkson tweeted the letter written by two students, saying: “Protesters: Please read this plea from two of our children at Anderton Park. Thank you.”

      Were those the only two pupils left in the school?

         9 likes

    • G says:

      Annunaki,
      Aw such a shame! squabbles beteen the strange bedfellows jointly in the Marxist UK movement. But, LGBT versus islam? who will prevail?

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  24. Annunaki says:

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  25. Annunaki says:

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    • pugnazious says:

      Why are women in the Middle East worried about the equality act 2010 in the UK?

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  26. pugnazious says:

    Extraordinary that EU citizens living here can vote for British MEPs….as long as they’re registered lol. Three million people who will sway the voting towards the pro-EU candidates. The BBC and Guardianistas are complaining some EU citizens haven’t been able to vote…they’re blaimng government incompetence…

    European elections 2019: EU citizens turned away from UK polls

    The BBC reports that they complain they had no idea they had to register or that they had no idea that they had to unregister in their own country. Hmmmm…councils sent forms out about the EU election process to all EU citizens registered on the electoral roll…if they weren’t registered on the roll why did they expect to be given the information?…the council wouldn’t know they exist…it’s their own fault….and they’d need to register in their own country to vote there instead…clearly they didn’t do that either.

    As for having to ‘unregister’ in your own country if you want to vote here…don’t think that’s the case.
    The Electoral Commission’s website only says you have to declare you will not vote in another country..and the EU’s own election information site uses the Electoral Commission’s site as reference.

    Even the EU’s own Mein Kampf propaganda rag, The New European, states that you only need to fill in form UC1 and tick the box that says you will only vote in the UK…

    ‘As well as registering online, they must fill out and return an additional ‘UC1’ form declaring that they will not vote in their country of origin and that they intend to vote here. ‘

    It’s more the incompetence of the EU citizens and pro-EU faux outrage from the BBC et al that drives this nothing-burger story.

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  27. Annunaki says:

    Worth remembering those adverts for refugee aid showing little kids in Syria etc. and looking above at what they will turn into…

       12 likes

  28. pugnazious says:

    From the EU’s very own propaganda unit….

    Why vote in the European election in May 2019?

    ‘As Europeans we face many challenges, from migration to climate change, from youth unemployment to data privacy. We live in an ever more globalised, competitive world. At the same time, the Brexit referendum has demonstrated that the EU is not an irrevocable project. And while most of us take democracy for granted, it also seems under increasing threat, both in principle and practice.

    That’s why we have started building a community of supporters to help encourage a higher voter turnout at the European Elections.

    Here’s a funny thing….the EU has an information office in the UK to provide EU citizens with information on how to vote….and who to vote for….anyone pro-EU…it’s an outright EU propaganda setup….and clearly targeting young ‘european’ voters….

    European Parliament Liaison Office in the United Kingdom

    ‘This time we’re not just asking you to vote, we’re asking you to involve others to vote.

    Are you a young European? Do you still have doubts about voting? The Global Shapers hub in Brussels initiative wants to drive you out to vote in the 2019 European Parliament Elections.

    We are holding events in London and other places in the UK to introduce the this time i’m voting campaign, set out how you can contribute and make a real difference in the run-up to the #EUElections2019 in May.

    What Europe does for me
    The ground-breaking new website What Europe does for me demonstrates the EU’s positive impact on individual citizens. Ahead of the European elections in May next year, it is hoped that this website will illustrate to what extent the EU makes a difference.
    The website provides citizens around Europe with short, easily readable notes on how the EU has improved their lives.’

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    • Not Gwent says:

      I see The Guardian is painting a picture of EU citizens being denied a vote in the UK because of ‘administrative errors’. The ground is being laid to discredit the result should it go the wrong way.

      Meanwhile Labour say Farage must be stopped because of the latters views on the NHS. Funny I had no idea the European Parliament was in charge of the NHS till I saw Labour’s poster.

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  29. Tabs says:

    Some not so subtle product placement/advertising on BBC2 at 8pm tonight.
    Joe Swift on the Chelsea Flower Show said “have a glass of Pimms” and then 10 seconds later said “blah blah M&G Investments”.

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  30. StewGreen says:

    18:41pm BBC Look North Hull
    Basically a PR job for charity called Lincolnshire Refugee Doctors
    The argument being that it costs £26K to convert a refugee doctor to UK standards and it costs £200K to train a British doctor
    … As ever when things seem like a “no brainer”, it just means that you haven’t thought about the negatives properly
    A registra praised the Syrian, refugee doctor, but it was obvious that registrar herself has an Indian subcontinent accent.


    ITV did a similar PR job them last year

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  31. StewGreen says:

    Next Look North item about the Hull Headscarf heroes who raised safety standards for their fishermen husbands.
    item featured that famous women’s rights campaigner praising her
    then also May
    and then extended item featuring Corbyn and the local Labour praising her.

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  32. Thoughtful says:

    https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/greater-manchester-news/two-people-arrested-after-clashes-16317170

    Seems like the people arrested in Salford were antifa types who were throwing missiles.

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    • G says:

      Thoughtful,
      The ‘clashes’ are perceptibly becoming more violent by the day……….

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  33. Dover Sentry says:

    I voted very early this morning. On the way, I walked past a memorial to the local fallen from WW1 and WW2. The wreaths from November 11th were still there. Slightly battered and faded.

    It resonated with me, to be honest.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Does with me too Dover . People either don’t know or choose to ‘forget’ .

      The ex para who got hit with milkshake today in Aldershot today whilst at a polling station got his very own para protection ….

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  34. john in cheshire says:

    In my opinion evil walks the land. And the Godless aren’t capable of recognising it.
    The Bible tells us that times like we are living through have happened before and every time those who are causing it care less about the consequences and the rest of us are ignorant of what is happening because satan has persuaded us that he doesn’t exist and neither does God.
    Mrs May is the epitome of evil.
    The far-left bbc are the mouthpiece of evil.
    The Conservative party are the protectors of the evil ones.
    The Civil Service is the nest, the hive of evil.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      John
      I agree – the cleverest thing the devil did was to convince fools that he doesn’t exist – or that any one who says such a thing is a bit cracked .

      The devil isn’t just in the detail …

      As far as Mrs May is concerned – there is plenty of talk about her mental health / judgement ….

      …. she has demeaned the PM office even more than Blair / Brown did …. does make one wonder about how she sees the world outside Olly Robbins.
      Is he some kind of Rasputin character ?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        In the circumstances I’m putting up the Weekend Thread early …..

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      • john in cheshire says:

        Mr Robbins is a commie and thus of the dark side.
        What puzzles me is why the rules have changed because I thought that prospective employees in the Civil Service were vetted and that any commies were excluded from joining the Civil Service. So, when did that change and who made the change?

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  35. G says:

    BBC tell me that Treason May is expected to resign tomorrow. But she will remain at No.10 until a new PM is appointed. Question is, for her to remain in position, is there a caveat such that she makes no decisions? I see the danger. She is incapable of making decisions and could do immense damage if left to her own devices.

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  36. pugnazious says:

    Amazing….BBC has not reported on the attack by a Remainer on an 81 year old man campaigning for the Brexit Party. The BBC was more than happy to cheer when Farage and Tommy Robinson were attacked and make that a prominent story, in fact they went out of their way, even producing a video, to justify the attacks as legitimate protest…not so keen now when it is a pensioner….maybe he should convert to Islam…the BBC would make it headline news.

    Just remember the prominence it gave to a story about Tory MP David Davies being questioned by a Brexiteer….the BBC presented this as an attack on an MP and yet another example of the hate and violence MPs have to face….and yet it was nothing more than you’d get on Question Time or indeed what Humphrys and CO dish out on Today. Is the BBC itself spreading hate and violence due to its attacks on MPs during these programmes?

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  37. Halifax says:

    She’s gone a women of principal who tried to please everyone who wasn’t in the end capable of delivering the people’s will…..

    And the MSM can’t bring themselves to repeat her words……”The Country I Love”……instead they repeat “The Job I Love”……..see the MSM hate and I mean hate this country…….

    They wont be happy till they hear the words ….LONG LIVE THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC OF BRITIAN……

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  38. Celtic_Mist says:

    BBBC should take note –

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