356 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 18 May 2019

  1. thirdoption says:

    Andrew Marr assures us that both he and his paymaster, the BBC, are scrupulously fair in their coverage of all things political.

    Based on this reassurance from the world’s leading broadcaster and one of it’s highest paid and foremost journalists, I tuned in to watch Marr’s interview of Jeremy Corbyn, knowing that he would be grilled in a robust, Nigel Farage type of way as to his past association with the IRA, Hamas and Hezzbollah.

    I was looking forward to him being questioned on his continued support for Syria and Venezuela and their murderous regimes.

    I was especially excited about how he’d explain his previous statements that he and the Labour party are not anti-semitic and how he could possibly have the unelected Shami Chakrabarti as a member of his shadow cabinet now that it has been proved, beyond any reasonable doubt that that she is a liar and a charlatan.

    Sadly, Andrew was not on top form and failed to address any of those issues. He did however ask him a few puff pieces about nothing of importance.


    • vlad says:

      Poor Andrew, must have been an off day for him.

      So he didn’t go digging into out of context things Corbyn said years ago, like he did for Farage?


  2. Fedup2 says:

    The Marr nonsense last week ( won’t call it an interview ) should be remembered by all right thinking people as to how far the BBC and its’ staff have gone into failing to provide the service those who pay for it deserve .

    Marr should take his £400k of taxpayers’ cash and go somewhere he can put his bias to good use – like RT .

    I won’t watch his programme any more – with the exception of Brillo I don’t do BBC propaganda politics programmes any more – except twitter extracts – so no need for a licence .

    Mardell today at one pm . I put a formal complaint about him and his show last week because he interviewed a liberal who used the term ‘bo——cks to Brexit ‘ without editing , warning or apology – at 1310 on a Sunday afternoon . I was embarrassed because I was listening with some one of better manners than me .

    We try to control bad language on this site and I’d expect the bbc to have a higher standard . As far as the liberals are concerned – who cares about them ?

    As for today Mardell went on a jolly to France to interview the yellow vests who sounded as cheesed ( Brie ) off with their saviour – Macron – as we are with the traitors here . Marrdel very quickly retreated and interviewed some bubble friends – an American democrat – of all people who then preached about what Europeans are thinking – one Anne Applebaum. A safe reliable bubble dweller of no value .

    Mardell – Marr – just detached from reality … in their bubble


    • Not Gwent says:

      ‘bo——cks to Brexit ‘ the only party to offer a EU membership referendum in 2010. I expect they were ‘joking’ then too.

      “The European Union has evolved significantly since the last public vote on membership over thirty years ago. Liberal Democrats therefore remain committed to an in / out referendum the next time a British government signs up for fundamental change in the relationship between the UK and the EU.” https://www.newstatesman.com/blogs/the-staggers/2011/10/referendum-membership-lib


    • JohnUK says:

      Anne Applebaum is the authoress inter-alia of Gulag, and The Red Famine and holds Polish citizenship. I did not hear what she commented to Mardell but she has my respect for those works alone.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I suppose that’s why she spouts pro ReichEU propaganda . I wonder is she keeps a US and EU passport ..?


  3. Dover Sentry says:

    Sky Online News:

    “”Brexit secretary warns no-deal preparations must be sped up””

    “”The Brexit secretary says if MPs don’t pass the withdrawal deal in parliament, a no-deal situation will become more likely.””


    An attempt to derail The Brexit Party?

    I don’t believe now anything the Tories spout.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I wish I’d known that before I voted for The Brexit Party in my postal vote . My mind would have been completely changed and I’d have stopped wishing for the demise of the Traitorous Conservative Party .

      Completely anecdotal but I was talking to someone who voted Remain today . Believed in the democratic outcome and therefore will vote Brexit Party ‘ as it’s the right thing to do ‘ . Despite the BBC and Project Fear I think the British are fundamentally fair . That will be shown with the election result .


  4. Beltane says:

    Just out of interest, I’m pretty sure Chuka was sporting a rose gold IWC Portugeiser Chronograph on his elegantly turned wrist while chatting to Andrew Marr. Current price: £13,950 on alligator strap. Some remain considerably more equal than others.


    • G says:

      Probably a cheap, ‘look-alike’ Chinese job. He doesn’t have the brains to distinguish. He might start to wonder when the ‘gold’ starts peeling off.


  5. Beltane says:

    Also, to confirm an intimation I wrote about a week or so ago, My Lord of Hesletine is to vote for the Liberal Democrats in the impending EU elections. Despite the immense political significance of this courageous move, the noble lord is described as a ‘Grandee’, which, I think is rather unfair. Such jaded, supremely arrogant and failed politicians should not be given the opportunity to write their own eulogies.


  6. Celtic_Mist says:

    ‘Real Name’

    /The former English Defence League leader, real name Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, was due to appear in Oldham/



  7. Celtic_Mist says:


    • vlad says:

      Taqiyya in all its glory.

      Not to be confused with Tequila, an altogether more wholesome thing.


  8. vlad says:

    Al beeb’s bias is there even in their use of grammar:
    “Missiles were thrown and police vehicles damaged during a disturbance at a Tommy Robinson campaign event.”

    The use of the Passive voice allows them to avoid saying WHO damaged the vehicles and threw the missiles.

    A bit like trucks are driven into people, throats are cut by knives, heads are chopped off, young girls are raped, churches are set on fire, bombs are planted, and just occasionally planes are flown into buildings.

    NTDWI, of course.



    • Fedup2 says:

      Pretty obvious deceit from the Far Left Pro Muslim BBC. Shameful for a British State Broadcaster – but it has so lost its’ way . It must pay a price one day .


    • Guest Who says:

      Common Purpose media ‘reporting’ on Common Purpose Police.



      • Fedup2 says:

        Looks like the diverse superintendent inglis on the fast promotion list – so TR would be a real feather for the next rung of Common Purpose . I bet he spent all night redrafting that meaningless nonsense .

        Let’s see what type of person is pursued by his detectives …


      • Dover Sentry says:

        Indeed. #CCBGB


      • Thoughtful says:

        It’s just Burnhams Fascist race hate of white people which he has been allowed to spread into the Police.

        When he speaks of hate speech which is anathema to freedom – and the very concept is barred by the US constitution he talking about the denial of our basic rights of free speech by Burnhams Gestapo.

        It’s obvious who this massive anti white race hater is talking about here, and it isn’t the Pakistani Muslims.


  9. Dover Sentry says:

    Election Maps, Euro Parliament Projection: 19th May

    BXP: 30 (+2)
    LAB: 15 (-1)
    LDM: 10 (+1)
    CON: 6 (-4)
    GRN: 5 (+2)
    SNP: 3 (=)
    PLC: 1 (=)
    SFN: 1 (=)
    DUP: 1 (=)
    ALL: 1 (=)


  10. vesnadog says:

    Not BBC I know but this would have been broadcast by the old BBC of which we older ones on here remember well. So I thought I would link this for those of us who have an hour to spare on this fine sunday evening:

    “A World Split Apart — Commencement Address Delivered At Harvard University, June 8, 1978. Alexander I. Solzhenitsyn.

    Solzhenitsyn’s warning of Western decline is as relevant today as it was twenty-five years ago”.

    Quote: “Harvard’s motto is “VERITAS.” Many of you have already found out and others will find out in the course of their lives that truth eludes us as soon as our concentration begins to flag, all the while leaving the illusion that we are continuing to pursue it”.



    • vlad says:

      A great speech by a great man who knew the horrors of totalitarianism all too well.
      One could quote it all, but here are a few paras:

      The communist regime in the East could endure and grow due to the enthusiastic support from an enormous number of Western intellectuals who (feeling the kinship!) refused to see communism’s crimes, and when they no longer could do so, they tried to justify these crimes. The problem persists: In our Eastern countries, communism has suffered a complete ideological defeat; it is zero and less than zero. And yet Western intellectuals still look at it with considerable interest and empathy…

      A decline in courage may be the most striking feature that an outside observer notices in the West today. The Western world has lost its civic courage, both as a whole and separately, in each country, in each government, in each political party, and, of course, in the United Nations. Such a decline in courage is particularly noticeable among the ruling and intellectual elites, causing an impression of a loss of courage by the entire society. There are many courageous individuals, but they have no determining influence on public life…

      Must one point out that from ancient times a decline in courage has been considered the first symptom of the end?…


      • vesnadog says:


        Thanks for sharing that.

        “a decline in courage has been considered the first symptom of the end”



  11. Guest Who says:

    This thread is excellent.


    • Fedup2 says:

      The Honourable Dan, a sad victim of family advantage , is just another production company beeboid who leaves his personal political bias at the studio door .

      Plus the fact the one of is great grandparents was a general in the British army who killed so many men that they sacked him . Now that took some doing .
      And on that background he counts for not a lot – why would he lie about the Brexit Party leaflet ? Booze , drugs ? Mental issues ?


      • Guest Who says:

        The replies thus far suggest he is a few spinnakers short of a full sail, but given he is ‘high profile’ it will be interesting how this pans out, especially if the BBC get out that famous barge pole of theirs when the home crowd go well off piste.


      • Up2snuff says:

        Fed, why would Dan Snow lie?

        Perhaps he didn’t but made instead a simple mistake. Royal Mail are delivering EU Election leaflets. Some have reached me sandwiched between letters, I guess because they are flimsy and it makes them easier to push through a letterbox with a draught strip.

        It is just possible that Dan Snow picked up a leaflet and an envelope, envelope on top, opened the envelope and then shook it with the Brexit Party leaflet behind the envelope falling to the table or desk at the same time as the contents of the envelope.


        • Guest Who says:

          Indeed. But maybe Dan could have pondered a moment, maybe run it past family or friends* first, and had such alternatives suggested , before rushing to post.

          One daft bint has already written to the EC on the basis that Dan Snow, yes DAN SNOW, the historian, has made the discovery of the century.

          *Dan I think ran it by Carole. Her advice not obvious.


        • Fedup2 says:

          Up2 – mr Snow is a beeboid – admittedly a production company type –

          Any ammunition against the Brexit Party – such as it is interfering in electoral material would be useful to remainers like Snow to start forming the narrative of a defective vote . Otherwise – why publish it on Twitter . The ‘no change ‘ people are desperate. They have tried everything to devalue the Referendum so why not do the same with the ReichEU elections – remember ?

          That is why .


    • Guest Who says:

      Dan may be regretting this now.


    • StewGreen says:

      Some nutty troll, in that thread tried to stir by repeatedly posting a photo of the BrexP leaflet with dog poo over Farages face


  12. Fedup2 says:

    Desperate piece of anti brexit from The Guardian -,that in 1988 The queen said ‘ Britain’s future is in Europe ‘.
    You really have to smell the remainer desperation . How is Soubry et al going to spin off the number of vote The Brexit Party is to get ?- whatever the out come of the number of MEPs.


  13. BRISSLES says:

    Sadly for us another 32 people plucked from the Channel. Exactly how far across do they have to be before the UK has a duty ? because we never hear of them being rescued by the French authorities !!!!


    • vesnadog says:


      I believe one of the soon to be refugees dipped their big toe into the sea in the area where the yanks began their invasion of Europe.


  14. BRISSLES says:

    That’s another 32 requiring treatment free of charge to our NHS. No doubt this lot are from Iran (again) which makes them Muslim.

    Ok, today in the paper, there is a fairly young doctor who no longer wishes to remain a GP. Why ? because he is being investigated by the GMC for asking a veiled woman to remove her veil as he couldn’t hear her describe the symptoms of her sick child – (tonsillitis). She complied with request. BUT in came the husband who threw a wobbly about disrespect and carried on about his wife’s ‘treatment’, and naturally put in a complaint.

    Our young doctor has decided regardless of the outcome, he no longer wants to work in an environment where he treads on eggshells constantly in fear of offending. Same as teachers really.

    As an Islamic taxi driver recently told my nephew – its being taught in mosques to breed as much as possible, then there will be no need for terror attacks, the country will be ours.

    And THAT should be the worry of every white person in this country.


    • vlad says:

      Too late to worry, this country is doomed, with the active collaboration of al beeb.
      Remind me what they did to collaborators during the war?


  15. Thoughtful says:

    Oh here we go with an opinion from an EU lawyer, shows the way the B******ds are thinking already:

    “Under an 1976 regulation all Brexit Party mandates could be rejected if the evidence of Russian and US money is proven (the process of confirmation of the mandates takes months in the EP). There are moves to annule all the Lega mandates on the same basis.”


    • Roland Deschain says:

      I can’t think of a better propaganda coup for the Brexit side. The EU is not that stupid, surely?


    • Demon says:

      So no foreign money allowed? I believe the ChUkka party, the illiberal-anti-democrats, Labour, Green and the Scottish and Welsh National Socialists all probably get money from Brussels and George Soros so all their campaigns must be illegal.

      At this rate only Brexit, UKIP, Tommy Robinson and Conservatives will be allowed to stand.


    • Guest Who says:

      Strikes me a fair old collection of folk at the top, political, law and media, have a bit of explaining to do.


      Unless, of course, they all agree between themselves there is no time or space to do so.

      In which case the Internet has made it all clear.


      • vlad says:

        What a disgusting sight. Coming to a town near you soon.


      • Roland Deschain says:

        There’s no doubt they will attempt to hunker down. But my Twitter feed is awash with video evidence that seems pretty conclusive, so it will take a very concerted effort to sit on the story. The BBC has of course already done its bit for obfuscatory services by referring to missile-throwing and TR (NHRN) in the same sentence, in the hope the readership will put 2 & 2 together and make 5.


        • StewGreen says:

          They’ll only be interested in covering it up until after people have voted
          desperate stuff from the BiasedBeedb


  16. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC have been ‘trailing’ an item about a Uni student for over a week on their Home Page. It has been ‘bumped up’ this evening to the top line:
    the item:

    So much for a previous DG’s commitment and that of a R4 Controller, some years ago now, to keep BBC News right up-to-date. Interestingly, it appears to have been re-dated to make it seem less out of date.


  17. StewGreen says:

    Agenda pushing
    #1 Countryfile : Victorian lady cyclists
    ..claim was made that there was so much sexism towards them for dressing in plus fours etc,
    #2 ..9pm BBC1 Gentleman Jack is about a Victorian lady high achiever who was a secret lesbian
    #3 ..9pm BBC2 he Ranganation
    “@RomeshRanga, some funny comics, his mum
    and 25 members of the Great British public chat about the week’s news. ”


    • vesnadog says:


      Re photo.

      The deception in the MSM of this country is so diabolically desperate that I wouldn’t put it past the producers – Soros funded of course -of said show would go as far as busing-in, and paying each member of the audience to participate.

      The usual suspects are panicking so much on behalf of their celeb-bubble friends that anything legal or not will be put into motion.


  18. Fedup2 says:

    Guardian Journo – Paul Lewis – tries one of those ‘on the road with Nigel Farage ‘ spoiler pieces in his paper today . A snide comment about mr Farage having gone to Dulwich College when said reporter is a Cambridge Graduate .

    It didn’t look like he found too much to write about – although MSM still has a fixation about manifestos and why the Brexit Party doesn’t have one . It just does not get that point about the Labour /Tory have trashed the concept manifestos through breaking the brexit promise making manifestos having the same value as toilet paper .


  19. gaxvil says:

    What interesting times we’re living through.
    Never thought we’d see this kind of upset of the two parties in my lifetime.
    Yet more excitement this week as May presents her, ‘bold plan’.


  20. StewGreen says:

    Telegraph : Now ‘Right-wing’ has been twisted to mean ‘racist’, we need a new political language.
    It’s the same hateful minority that calls Brexiters “Nazis”
    In Premium, but it’s dead easy to sign up for a free account


  21. StewGreen says:

    Australian Election
    You know tweets that don’t age well
    May14th One of their top journos thought he would start a massive sneerathon against Alan Jones a top DJ who said he was sure that the polls were wrong & the Labor Party would lose
    ..the libmob piled on with hate and scorn
    except Jones was right

    I made screenshots of the best
    … but you’ll need to jack up magnification to 200%

    I collected a heap of good videos aswell
    scan this thread