390 Responses to Weekend open Thread 11 May 2019

  1. Fedup2 says:

    Oh BBC
    Portraying the ReichEU elections as a ‘ protest vote’

    Excuse me but wasn’t the local council elections I. Which the traitor Tories lost 1300 seats a protest too .
    Two protests in two weeks . Is that a pattern or two ‘ one offs’ ?

    Add to that someone dig up Gordon Sell thebulliom Brown to say it could take a ‘generation’ to fix the split in the country . A generation is now described at 14 years . Any advances ?


    • G says:

      “A generation is now described as 14 years”. If we make it 10 years (or is it 12?) it can all end together alongwith the planet…………


    • Up2snuff says:

      Er, a bit longer than that Fed. They’ve been talking about marriage and divorce on R4 for the last couple of days and highlighting the fact that people are marrying later. Unless sprogs have already been produced, prior to the aisle>change>hymn-thing, then a generation is now about 35 years or three to the ton if you like.


  2. upandatem says:

    I didn’t see the Marr interview with Farage because it is obvious that the BBC will be doing everything to discredit him, over the next few days. (Seeing Marr also makes me feel somewhat nauseous.). It’s the way they operate; they can’t help themselves. But the more they rail against Brexit the stronger we become. All that university education and, after nearly three years, they still don’t get it. How thick is that?


    • Old Goat says:

      Now, it’ll work in the way that Trump Derangement Syndrome worked – they more they screech, the better Nigel will do. It’s on a roll, now. They have lost it.


  3. Old Goat says:

    Brexit party political broadcast:


  4. pugnazious says:

    What’s the biggest, most significant and real narrative about Brexit and British politics right now? It is the explosive fact that we’re ‘in this mess’ because Remain MPs have betrayed the people, betrayed democracy and betrayed the trust in politicians such as it was. The narrative is definitely not the one the BBC peddles of a group of far-right Tory MPs that have hijacked Brexit and stopped May from reaching an agreement with a moderate Parliament. When will the BBC ntoice that it is an extremist, pro-EU Parliament itself, in collusion with May, that has worked to stop Brexit by using endless delay tactics in the hope that if they put it off long enough it will all be forgotten or if we do get a deal it will be so ring-fenced by Remain imposed pro-EU terms and conditions that it is staying in the EU in all but name….but of course under far worse terms than we have now thanks to these Remain MPs who collaborate with an ‘enemy’ state to undermine British interests.

    The BBC however refuses to raise one of the most serious corruptions of British politics and the rigging of the process in favour of the EU an its supporters in Parliament….MPs hijack Brexit in order to stop it and overturn one of the biggest democratic votes this country has had and on the way they hold the government to ransom and take power for themselves in what was nothing less than a coup as power was snatched from government and taken by the legislature in total contradiction of the normal laws where the executive, legislature and judiciary are kept separate in order to prevent corruption and abuse of power…as we see happening now.

    Momentous political events that the BBC ignores because it is done by Remain MPs trying to impose their will which just happens to coincide with what the BBC wants.

    Farage manages to raise the issue on Question Time to great applause but of course the concerns are ignored by the great and the good…

    Marr is no less useless as he tries to do a hatchet job on Farage with ridiculous questions about nothing rather than explore not only what The Brexit Party stands for but the major corruption at the heart of British politics right now…that is…Remain MPs crushing democracy…stealing Brexit….

    The Brexit Party election broadcast follows up on that theme…politics is broken and demcoracy under threat…..

    Democracy under threat? You’d think the BBC would notice and want to report on that and its causes.


  5. pugnazious says:

    Is the BBC biased? notes Marr telling a lie..or is he just incompetent as he claims Farage never said ‘no deal is better than what we have under the EU’?..Why is the BBC twitter feed above not pointing out Marr go it badly wrong instead of fudging it with a question it knows the inconvenient anwer to already…lol….


    ‘Andrew Marr: Nigel Farage in 2016, why did you not advocate no deal?…..Because I can’t find examples of you saying this…’

    Unfortunately a simple Google search of Farage,”No deal is better than the deal we currently have” and the BBC, will reveal the truth…..they reported him saying it and highlighted it on Today’s R4 twitterfeed….

    Just another case of the BBC trying to discredit and undermine someone on the ‘right’ with lies and smear tactics.

    I’ll leave the last word to Nige…

    ‘This is absolutely ludicrous. I’ve never in my life seen a more ridiculous interview than this. You are not prepared to talk about what is going on in this country today. You’re in denial, the BBC is in denial, the Tory and Labour parties are in denial.’’


  6. theisland says:


    • Annunaki says:

      Are they French ? I doubt it, I suspect they are from far far away claiming refuge but, only in one country, ours yet France appears safe enough, so how can they be asylum seekers ? I do wonder why they left France ? council house ? benefits ?

      Why are we the target ? thought Europe was standardised, but it seems we are still the easy touch even within the EU, I can think of no other reason why they travel thousands of miles through safe countries that have given them refuge and still insist on getting to the UK, beeeg eeshue anyone ?


      • Fedup2 says:

        Build a wall


      • The WestWyvern says:

        I’d like to understand how they get so far across so easily. Among the busiest shipping lanes in the world, strong tides and anything wind wise above a force 3 will make it uncomfortable to say the least either in a large vessel or small rib as most of these gimme grants seem to have. Also from the picture their transport looks new. At least £3k I’d guess. Just who is orchestrating this invasion?


    • Sluff says:

      If you or I sent our kids on a boat across the channel, the social services would be round on child neglect charges faster than you could say ‘illegal immigrant’.


    • taffman says:

      “Rescued” ?
      Who are they trying to kid .


  7. Fedup2 says:

    Brian Walden has died . A journo from the days when questions were asked , answers listened too and then followed up with another intelligent question .

    ‘Weekend world ‘ was education for young Fedup – it’s a shame people like Mr Walden are a rarity these days … and absent from the BBC with the exception of the Brillo . RIP .


  8. Fedup2 says:

    BBC reports Burkino Fasso -church burnt down during mass by ‘ gunmen’ 6 killed including Priest .

    There s some savagery which won’t be reported for very long . Looks like the catholic’s have another collection to make after the Shri Lanka mass murders in churches on Easter Sunday


  9. Sluff says:

    The biased BBC, with its inbuilt leftmob statist mindset, naturally has selective powers of investigation.
    In particular it likes to keep telling us how hardworked and underpaid are those in the public sector, despite lots of independent statistical evidence.
    My own gripe on this is the way the generous pension schemes and true cost of pension provision is swept under the carpet.
    With that in mind, here’s a bit of info. Please sit down before reading on.
    UK expenditure on armed forces, around £35 bn a year.
    Unfunded liability of armed forces pension scheme £195 bn.

    Now I have no issue with supporting those who serve the country, especially if they are injured or killed.
    But I just wish the powers that be would come clean on the utterly gigantic yet constantly hidden cost of public sector pensions.
    Which will be paid for by the future taxes of all those young Corbynistas complaining about intergenerational unfairness and the privileges of the post war baby boomers.
    Oh, the irony.


  10. Up2snuff says:

    As it is the Sabbath …

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gq-kcrcLpRg .



    • Up2snuff says:

      Sublime work.

      The BBC love to tell me on day long Radio 4 of some no-mark American musician who has died but neglected to mention in R4 News the death of Jacques Loussier in March this year. This, despite giving the original Trio their first UK TV appearance in the early 1960s on the programme ‘Tonight’, fronted by Cliff Michelmore.


  11. The WestWyvern says:

    I’m no football fan, overpaid prima donnas chasing a bag of wind is my view and its a mechanism to keep the masses focused on tribal matters rather then the bigger picture…

    Anyhow I had radio 5 dead on in the background whilst doing a job in my garage just now, but noted the sense of disappointment from the commentary teams as each Man City goal went in, it was palpable. Do the Beeb have some sort of love-in with Liverpool, from the comments I heard they seemed very upset.


  12. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Burkina Faso church attack: Priest among six killed””

    “”Gunmen have killed six people including a priest as Mass was being celebrated in a church in Dablo in northern Burkina Faso, officials said.””

    “”The attackers, said to number between 20 and 30, then burned down the church.””

    “”Jihadist violence has flared in Burkina Faso since 2016, and this is the third attack on a church in five weeks.””

    “”Fighters affiliated to al-Qaeda and the Islamic State group as well as the local Ansarul Islam have been active in the region.””

    “”Armed individuals burst into the Catholic church… They started firing as the congregation tried to flee,” the mayor of Dablo, Mr Zongo told the AFP news agency.””

    “”Last month, attackers targeted a Protestant church in the town of Silgadji, killing at least six people””

    “”And earlier in April, four people died when a Catholic church was bb in a nearby village, the bishop of Dori in northern Burkina Faso told Vatican news agency Fides.””


    How many times can the BBC avoid using the term Islam, Muslim or Terrorism?

    The following BBC descriptions are used in order to limit media damage to their favoured religion:

    Fighters affiliated to Islamic State
    Armed individuals

    Where is the PM of NZ to condemn this?


  13. Annunaki says:

    We are at war let there be no doubt and we still continue to allow the enemy into our country on a daily basis and pander to them, I wonder how history will judge our bloody stupidity when all their lib lab supporters are murdered and raped when they get the upper hand, Rome and the barbarians all over again, no music, no art, no tolerance of minorities, desecration of archeology etc, etc,


    • Annunaki says:

      But always snidey weasel words using our laws of tolerance to further there intolerant aims


      Police commissioner objected to gay sauna license because it’s ‘too close to a mosque’

      Ms Holloway warned: “Luton Borough Council is usually particularly aware of matters of cultural sensitivity.

      “I trust therefore that you will fully understand that, given the large and devout Muslim population in this area of the borough, there is naturally a high level of religious and cultural opposition to such a business among these residents which needs to be respected, in my view


    • Thoughtful says:

      You cannot complain about the Islamisation of Britain whilst MPs are paid such a low amount. Other countries see the poverty wages and are prepared to make up their incomes so long as they do what they ask.
      Saudi has been ferrying MPs out first class on ‘fact finding missions costing around £10K and then giving them expensive gifts which they are allowed to keep. Some of them are being given ‘consultancies’ which pay nearly as much as the pittance we pay them.

      This is the reason why Britain is being Islamised. Cut the MP numbers by half and double the pay, and ban all overseas incomes including gifts.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I can complain. I think we’ve gone through this joke about MPs being underpaid before – but I can’t see the connection between Blighty being overrun by Islam and how much MPs are paid .

        The vast majority of MPs are corrupt . Morally or financially . ( see manifesto promise breaches and continuing fiddling of expenses even after the first scandal .

        Market forces should govern MP selection . There is always a queue – never a shortage . On that basis they are over paid . And look at what they ‘do’ . I’m really surprised to defend them . Are you related to one ?

        You say half their number . Why only half ? They have been harmimg Blighty for years ( see brexit ) and at the moment we seem to be living in a civil service driven dictatorship .

        No second jobs
        Move the government out of London
        All MPs to reside in their constituencies
        No jobs for the family
        No expenses – just allowances
        No fixed term
        No upper house .

        Drain the swamp .


        • Thoughtful says:



          There’s so much information out there to provide prima facie evidence it’s going on, just because the BBC haven’t announced it’s happening doesn’t mean it isn’t.

          Check out the donations to the Clinton foundation, the Bush family Saudi consultancy, Trumps reaction to the murder of Kashoggi the list goes on & on. Where do you think all BLiars money came from? Why do you think Toxic Tess covered up the report on Saudi sponsored terrorism in Britain? Why is it every hate preacher is allowed into Britain whilst every critic of Islam is banned ?

          It’s screaming out there, but because you haven’t done the digging and the BBC hasn’t presented it on a plate it isn’t happening.

          And it’s not just Saudi. Qatar, Kuwait, Abu Dhabi, Oman, and Khazakstan are all involved in bribing Western politicians to promote Sunni Islam.

          Every war in the Middle East we have fought has been on the instruction of the Saudis who head the Arab league, if you need me to explain this then I can. Our antipathy towards Iran who are nowhere near as dangerous as Saudi is because they are the Sunni’s enemy.

          Believe it’s happening and do some research because you are missing a huge piece of the jigsaw if you can’t.


        • john in cheshire says:

          Also, my perennial complaint, why are all MPs paid the same? Their remuneration, including permitted expenses should be determined and paid by their constituents.


      • Annunaki says:

        Thoughtful, I do wonder why we accept paki child gang rapists, muslims who racially abuse and attack election candidates, maybe you have provided a reason


        • StewGreen says:

          @Annunaki Oh FFS are you trying to get this site banned off public wi-Fi
          by including that trigger P-word ?
          … Pak/Bangla groomNrape gangs you mean


  14. taffman says:

    “The European Parliament elections will be seen as an opportunity for the ultimate protest vote, Education Secretary Damian Hinds has said.”

    No it is not a protest vote , its vote for Freedom and Independence.
    They are still not listening . We do not need a second vote we do not need a rigged confirmatory vote.
    We voted out in 2016 and we still have not left yet .


    • Up2snuff says:

      Freedom and Independence and Democracy and the Democratic Tradition.

      The alternative is minority mob rule.

      Get out and vote on 23 May 2019 and support our democracy.


  15. StewGreen says:

    Last night R4 had a prog about new media podcasts
    so they talked with PJW, Alex Jones, Jon Gaunt etc.
    Nah, of course not
    … 20 hours later they have put a segment of it on Pick Of the Week
    A bit where they brought on a Buzz Feed reporter who played a clip of a US podcast that featured Hillary Clinton as a guest, talking about how she doesn’t sweat.


  16. G says:

    I’ve just watched the video of the exchanges between Farage and Marr on YouTube. But, suspiciously it was cut short after about 14 minutes. Could it be that I’ve missed a crucial part? Don’t know.
    Well, what can I say? Nigel kept his cool and dismantled every hatchet point Marr had lined up to attack him. That sums up the so-called, BBC “interview”. It was clear from the start that the BBC was attempting to savage Nigel, intentionally and they failed miserably.
    Keep it up Nigel, we like what you are doing and the way you are doing it.


    • vlad says:

      Given the amount of abuse Farage usually gets, I’m amazed at his usual polite calm, bonhomie and sang-froid.

      (Three French words – who says we’re anti-European?)


    • StewGreen says:

      @G I made a comment on the previous page 5 hours ago
      \\ Full 16 minute version
      Marr tries to make the Immigration Poster the take away gotcha at the end of the interview
      “Would the Brexit Party , put that poster up ?”
      Farage claims that then immigration was the #1 issue
      ..but now the #1 Burning issue is the betrayal of democracy
      .. but such posters did a lot of good against Merkel etc.


  17. Annunaki says:

    Unemployed next to me have just got a 68 plate car never done a days work in their life, spend all day sitting in the garden smoking and drinking, but what galls me they have a menaslly challenged child, (they have managed to breed) and introduce a mentally challenged child that gets taken to school every day in a taxi with a separately employed escort so two people the tax payer are paying for, whilst their new car sits there, and I have to say, English is sometimes their language but not often and if you call me a racist for objecting to this kind of skiving lazy scum, so be it


  18. StewGreen says:

    We know medialand is so fake
    I am watching Countryfile blah blah blah
    ..Adam Henson reckons he can cut Global Warming by cutting the cows straw shorter
    Meanwhile I check The Express and presenter Anita Rani is talking about her wedding 10 years ago
    Anita said: “Our wedding day was bonkers, and more like a wedding week. We’re both from Indian families so it was taken out of our hands.”
    “We had 450 of our nearest and dearest in Bradford, which is relatively small for a Punjabi wedding.”
    ..ah no CO2 in that huge shindig then ?


    • john in cheshire says:

      Why didn’t they go to India to be married?
      How many of the family didn’t return to India after the wedding?


    • Eddy Booth says:

      ”the cows straw ”
      Their bedding makes a difference?


  19. Razza94 says:


    Baby shows feet, apparently worthy of being one of the day’s top stories. This could only happen at an organisation with a long history of harbouring paedophiles, so we shouldn’t be surprised. What we now know is that these paedophiles also have a foot fetish.


    • Eddy Booth says:

      Nobody cares about his feet
      all we want to know:
      Is he a ginger headed lad or not ?


    • Thoughtful says:

      Danny baker has tweeted, now we’ve seen his feet is he able to peel a bannana with them yet ?


  20. StewGreen says:

    8:03pm BAFTA award ceremony ..Graham Norton in the carpark introduces and passes us to the choir in the auditorium
    The first voice is a dark skinned girl, wearing a headcovering
    BBC the totally unracist BBC accidentally scores triple brownie points


    • StewGreen says:

      Sorry quadruple brownie points
      ..This isn’t any old London School
      ..”It’s the school by Grenfell Tower”

      few whites kids in the choir an none of them got a solo


    • Eddy Booth says:

      Graham Norton is bent and should not be allowed anywhere near children.


      • Roland Deschain says:

        I can’t stand the man, but is there some evidence of him being involved with young children? I don’t recall hearing of it. If you’re suggesting it’s because he’s gay, I think you need to be very careful when making an accusation like that.


      • Fred Stubber says:

        Homosexuality has nothing to do with being sexually attracted to kids. It’s a completely different thing.


  21. Thoughtful says:


    Worth following because the BBC aren’t going to tell you how badly their poster boy is doing in the polls still less why.


  22. JimS says:

    Unfortunate to catch Stand-Up Specials on Radio 4 tonight, with Suzi Ruffell.

    Lesbian, pro-EU, pro-immigration, ‘humour’ consists of slagging off Daily Mail readers, ‘racists’ and ‘homophobes’, what a surprise, not.

    Do they all come from Central Casting with a boilerplate script?


    • Fred Stubber says:

      She explained at length that everyone in favour of Brexit is stupid and also racist. I was hoping to be entertained but in fact I suffered insult. Audiences for BBC radio comedy are falling apparently. I wonder why. On this occasion I decided to join the present craze for offence-taking, so I took offence and switched off.


  23. Thoughtful says:

    BBC announce that unfortunately due to Danny Bakers ‘racist’ tweet of the royal baby the corporation in line with its policies has been forced to dismiss him.

    A spokesman said if only he’d sexually interefered with the baby they would have been able to turn a blind eye.


  24. Fedup2 says:

    I liked D Baker – even if he was Millwall…

    A new thread for a New Week. .>>>>