Midweek Open Thread 8 May 2019

Just over two weeks to the EU MEP elections . The failing Far Left Remainer BBC will kick Project Fear into top gear again with the usual dirt and anti Brexit bias . Maybe they’ll get cause breaking election law – can but hope…



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494 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 8 May 2019

  1. Terminal Moraine says:
  2. john in cheshire says:

    This is what Tommy Robinson is up against:

    ” I got a call from the police earlier this week.
    They said we had to have an urgent meeting.
    When we met up they warned me of a new credible threat to my life.
    Someone threatened to murder me — again.
    I don’t think the police even care.

    When I was assaulted on the campaign trail, police officers actually fled the scene. They didn’t make any arrests — instead, they retreated.

    South Wales police even liked a social media post of me being attacked.

    And the media is even worse.

    They’ve promoted the idea of me being attacked by laughing at us and playing down the assaults against me. The mainstream media have even gone as far as defending the violent agitators who assaulted me and then lying about me too.

    The Guardian published a gross interview with a young Muslim agitator who assaulted me. They tried to make the violent agitator out to be a victim!

    Because of them, I now have a new credible threat to my life.

    So, now I’ve needed to purchase more security and even get stab and bulletproof body armour to protect me during the campaign.

    And because this is for the campaign, I need your help to raise the money to pay for the armour and security.”


    • Old Goat says:

      I like Tommy – I’ve even bought two of his books for my Kindle.

      However, he is his own worst enemy, and becoming a liability. I know he’s had his problems with the police, the government, and the media.

      He clearly isn’t going to get much more help, or traction from anyone, even though most of us are sympathetic to his plight, and the obvious campaign against him. Any organisation he joins, far from being an asset, he is a liability.

      Perhaps in his own interests, and ours, he should take a step backwards, for a while, and re-assess his position.

      That’s only my opinion, unpopular though it may be.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I don’t see your view as unpopular . Playing the ‘ victim’ card too many times doesn’t do anyone any good .

        He is a victim of the media – whatever he does or says will be spun negatively as they fear him so much for being outside the ‘ bubble ‘

        He is a brave man irrespective of his flaws .


        • Wink1 says:

          Old Goat and Fedup2 , so you are unhappy with TR ‘playing the victim card’ as you complain and comment from your cosy front room ! Perhaps he should ‘shut up for the sake of diversity’ as Naz Shah once so eloquently said!!


          • Fedup2 says:

            Thank you for your comment and the advice to ‘shut up’ . I take it that you are an unquestioning TR fan. Good for you .

            But telling people to ‘shut up’ isn’t going to take your cause much further is it ?

            As I said TR is a brave man . The British state and media is against him .

            Your assumption that I am in a front room which is cosy is wrong – and suggests an image of me which is quite a way from the truth . .

            … I’m actually on a beach . It’s about 25 degrees …. oh look there’s a cloud …😎

            And I just wish spurs well against jif or Ajax later …


            • Jeff says:

              Fed, hold on a sec’. I think if you re-read what Wink1 was saying, he was referring to the remarks made by Naz Shah when she said the victims of grooming gangs should “shut up for the sake of diversity.”
              For what it’s worth, I admire Tommy enormously. He’s brave far beyond the point of common sense. And I attended both the Whitehall demonstrations organised to get him released from prison. However, there’s no doubt that politically he is a liability. His reputation has been so tarnished (a lot of it unfairly by our revolting media) that middle England…and that’s UKIPs bedrock support, won’t have anything to do with him.
              I like the bloke and I admire him.


              • Fedup2 says:

                I re read it . I stick with what I said – which was thar playing the ‘victim card ‘ too many times can back fire. Absolutely no doubt that there are large number of enemies of Britain who wish to do TR harm . I’ve seen the footage of him being pursued whilst on holiday and a police surveillance van outside his house and plod scarpering when challenged .

                But I won’t be told to ‘shut up ‘ by anyone using this site . I’ve had enough of that in real life …


                • StewGreen says:

                  Fed, he didn’t tell you to shut up.


                • Wink1 says:

                  I think you should read my comment again Fedup2 .Thankyou Jeff for trying to explain ..


                  • Up2snuff says:

                    There are times when it is important, really REALLY important, to be clever with your tactics.

                    Right now, TR and UKIP are doing neither.

                    The Christ-ian imperative to ‘be as wise as serpents and harmless as doves’ works really well, too, for unbelievers in the secular world.

                    After the ‘Judiciously unfair’ treatment of Tommy Robinson last year, it would really have been better for him – in my view – to have gone quite for a while. Let the Attorney-General sort out his case. Get through any re-trial. Stay quiet politically (and away from UKIP) and maybe get a formal journalism qualification in order to put the MSM’s nose really out of joint.

                    Instead of that we are where we are.

                    – UKIP is being attacked because of Tommy Robinson.
                    – Tommy Robinson is being attacked because of UKIP and the EUroElection.
                    – Gerrard Batten is being attacked by the media because of TR and it seems that he has possibly now had enough. He had already promised to stand down for a confirmatory leadership election but apparently is undecided whether to stand, according to his statement to BBC R4.

                    The EUro Elections are really important for Brexit.

                    Does all this help?

                    I think not.


                    • Up2snuff says:

                      Line 7 of my post: please replace ‘quite’ with ‘quiet’.

                      Prood reader has bin sicked.


      • Helen Richardson says:

        Old Goat – reluctantly, I must agree. N Farage knew what he was doing when he distanced himself from UKIP and TR and, true to form, TR managed to deliver a punch on election day. Excellent. Clearly he was targeted, but that is nothing new.

        TR has an important message, and I agree with Fedup2 that he is a brave man. I have also read his book on the Koran. However, Farage understands that a political party has to appeal to the electorate the way it is, not the less hypocritical way it would like it to be.

        Carl Benjamin, in one of his recent street interviews (in Bristol or Gloucester, I think), explains very well how middle class people find it easy to reject the opinions of working class people because they do not frame their arguments in a way that the middle class approves of. They are totally oblivious to just how prejudiced they are. That is the problem.


        • Vonbedda says:

          Helen, bang on.

          the way I’ve always thought of Tommy Robinson is this. Full marks for his bravery and his determination & resilience standing up against the threats & the constant abuse etc. however the man Frames his arguments all wrong & his reaction to a Milkshake over his face was to start throwing punches…silly….However take into account there was a very possibility the milkshake was not a milkshake and something more sinister.

          Nigel saw the hold the MSM had on individuals like Tommy and knew if he aligned himself with Tommy, he would be pulled into that murky world as well and would constantly be defending actions of the past instead of promoting actions for future.


      • Banania says:

        I absolutely cannot see how he is “his own worst enemy”.


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    • martianonlooker says:

      Have no fear. Our intrepid cops look set to deploy their latest crime fighting weapon:


  3. mikehunt says:

    Am not sure if this is UK-facing content?


    But anyway it says

    “Sweden celebrates the right to roam freely in the country’s nature, and women aren’t afraid to embrace the tradition alone – even in the most remote locations.”

    “Sweden is a safe country by global standards and champions gender equality, which means that many women are inspired to embrace the right to roam and spend their free time outdoors.”

    Which is a hot take by anyone’s standards.

    Women in the UK also seem to go walking. The rapist immigrant hordes don’t live in the Yorkshire Moors, or frozen Lapland. They are in the cities.

    It has nothing to do with Swedish gender equality but the basic fact that, well, you are less likely to suffer crime in areas that haven’t been ‘enriched’.

    “Why We Rule is a series that follows powerful women who have pioneered the path to female sovereignty and are truly rulers of their worlds.”

    Ah yes, ‘powerful women’ enjoying traditional Swedish culture.

    Isn’t this essentially Nazi propaganda – Aryan women enjoying the outdoors? Seems it is ok in BBC la-la land, if you call it ‘female empowerment’


  4. Terminal Moraine says:

    CNN are taking online flak for asking the question that only divisive, race-baiting liberal media types care about:



    • Fedup2 says:

      The BBC is celebrating the introduction of a 20p deposit scheme for plastic bottles in Scotland .

      Millions of English plastic bottles will be heading up the motorway very soon .


    • thehoiman says:

      If you hooked up Martin Luther King’s body to a turbine right now, you could power a small village.


    • Banania says:

      Avoid enrichers by frequenting national parks, historic houses, coastal paths….


  5. fakenewswatcher says:

    Laurie Taylor, Chief Ideologue of the bbc is at it again. Conspiracy Theories (everything Laurie doesn’t agree with) the topic, on R4.

    Why do I title him thus?
    He always makes me think of Mikhail Suslov, in the good old Soviet days, when u had to know your Kosygin from your Podgorny and your Brezhnev. Suslov had to ensure purity of THE ideology…
    Oh, and more university professors than u can shake a stick at. Wow, that makes it all credible for me, Laurie!

    ‘Impartial broadcasting’ is the game, propaganda is the name.

    And now on to Amol Rajan…


  6. Celtic_Mist says:

    How will bBBC spin “Archie” lol


    • john in cheshire says:

      Didn’t Jonathan King have a hit single with one of his fabricated groups, called The Archies?


  7. Sluff says:

    In the wake of the attacks on Christians in Sri Lanka by …..well the BBC just can’t imagine who, we had an interesting ‘Thought for the Day’ on R4 at 0750.
    A Sikh speaker was telling us about the repression of Sikhs.
    Gudwaras are banned in Saudi Arabia.
    In Iran, Sikh numbers have dwindled alarmingly following years of repression.
    I wonder what religious connection there might possibly be between these countries?
    Sadly neither the Sikh speaker nor the wider Toady team seemed to be able to spot a link.


  8. StewGreen says:

    U.S. trial of cult leader started
    ..female followers were his sex slaves
    even under age


    • john in cheshire says:

      Isn’t there an actress involved in this cult. I think she’s in some US TV series and ‘ recruited’ victims, or is that cult members?


      • TrickCyclist says:

        j i c,
        Yes, her name’s Allison Mack, used to be in the TV series Smallville.


  9. taffman says:

    “Brexit: Theresa May rejects calls to resign”
    \\The PM has rejected calls for her to quit over her handling of Brexit, saying it is “not an issue about me”.//
    Yes I remember now ……………”Brexit means Brexit “, “No Deal is better than a bad deal” and “We are leaving”.
    “Not an issue about me” ?
    So who is running the country then?


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      taffman -do not forget the handbook under her pillow, written by Comrade Merkel. “Guidelines for getting into power and staying there.” Sub-T: ICH bin der Staat.
      Item 23 section iv: “once in power, do not budge. What goes on all around you is of importance only if it can lose you your job; there is nothing conceived of by the human mind that could prompt you to vacate your position voluntarily. Two words: ‘STAY PUT’ guide your life.”
      Item 41 section ix: “because you have no principles of your own, you are always in danger; anyone who looks remotely like a threat or a successor must be disposed of…”
      Item 57 section ii: “…it is of no relevance whether people wonder WHO runs the country, as long as YOU know YOU are there…”
      Item 61 section i: “when in doubt, BS will always do the trick…”

      This volume has kept Merkel in power when everyone wrote her off, time and time again, year in,year out. It all but controls the movement of the spheres…
      And the star pupil is…


  10. gaxvil says:

    Shame we don’t have a system to impeach.
    Nixon would not have gone otherwise.

    May described by an American journo’, ” …… a woman of questionable sanity.”
    She’s not quite sane is she?

    She’s outside that we call ‘normal’ for sure. And as for those who have kept her in power well, they’re just beneath contempt.


  11. StewGreen says:

    Shunning is a practice bthat some cults do
    Some Oxford students are shunning their Union unless it withdraws an invite to Katie Hopkins.



  12. G.W.F. says:

    Its VE Day today. Below is a picture of far right racists, and all white extremists in 1945 with their children and their nationalist flag on display.



  13. Celtic_Mist says:

    The bBBC article that melting sea ice contributes to rising sea levels is #FakeNews spreading on social media for political purposes and in today’s climate (pun) may be seen as quite concerning.




  14. NCBBC says:

    The Ascendancy of Shariah in the UK



  15. Guest Who says:

    But, does Greta get to go too with an embedded BBC crew?


    Be a shame if some XR groupies decided to glue their bits to all relevant transport involved in these jollies.


  16. Richard Pinder says:

    Today, Theresa May refuses to go because the loony has lost her road map and marbles. On the telly, Storyville on BBC4 at 9pm today and tomorrow, the loony PM is labelled “insane”. Guillaume McLaughlin, Verhofstadt’s chief of staff, rages “What the f is wrong with her. Dr David Bull of the Brexit Party has deemed Theresa May “insane”. The Mensa members forum asks “Is our Prime Minister mad?


    • Eddy Booth says:

      How come the above have not figured out she isn’t insane, weak,etc,
      but merely a traitor ?


    • Up2snuff says:

      Richard, you already have my theory about the PM. Seems pretty obvious that she is high on the spectrum.


    • gaxvil says:

      I do hope they are keeping a close eye on May – she’s capable of signing us up to anything with the EU, China and Iran – who knows.
      I get the feeling the Americans are loosing patience and while twonks strop around saying, ‘We’re European, not American and our future lies with Europe.
      We thumb our noses to America at our peril.


      • vesnadog says:


        Actually we are literal blood-brothers with our American cousins as both our armed forces shed blood on the same battlefield together.


  17. Guest Who says:

    OT, but maybe Adam should have gone the tried and trusted BBC ‘just joking’ route?


    • Eddy Booth says:

      I must be doing something right;
      I’ve never heard of him.
      Some reporter?
      He seems to have a poor command of grammar.
      I guess reading auto cue can only get you so far.


      • vesnadog says:


        He always gives me the impression that he would rather be elsewhere than in front of the camera.


  18. Cassandra says:

    Oh dear, Chris Packham has just been exposed by Guido…


    “Funnily enough, Chris’s concerns with climate change and capitalism mysteriously vanish when it comes to his own “Travel with Chris Packham” business. It turns out Chris is quite happy to take punters thousands of miles round the world on luxury wildlife tours, pumping out hundreds of tonnes of carbon dioxide to fly there. Provided they’re paying several thousand pounds each.”

    Stone the krowes!


    • gaxvil says:

      I’m shocked – not!
      To be a Lefty-Liberal you just have to be a dyed in the wool hypocrite,
      it’s a basic requirement.


  19. Celtic_Mist says:

    Just stumbled across BBC 100 days where Sopel et al have gone into Trump bashing overdrive. Doubtless this will continue right up to the 2020 elections. Can’t wait to see the expressions on their faces when Trump wins! This is meddling on a massive scale..

    Just for fun



  20. Beltane says:

    Much is being made by the BBC and the Guardindependent of TBP’s current lack of a manifesto. ‘What are their long-term plans? How could they hope to gain power? It’s a one-man band’ and so on and on. And the critics from all the established parties are joining in with the enthusiasm normally associated with children.
    What they are ignoring are the events of the past 20 years or so, in which our country has been deliberately and spitefully over-run, our NHS massively overburdened, our national infrastructure at the point of collapse and the banking system rescued by billions of taxpayers money. And that’s just New Labour’s contribution.
    Currently we enjoy the benefits and expertise of such irreplaceable politicians as Chris Grayling, Damian Green, Phillip Hammond, Anna Soubry, Dominic Grieve and Allan Duncan, all headed by the unique talents of Teresa May. Opposite there’s Corbyn, McDonnell, Abbott, Lucas and Cable.
    So they’re right. Who could possibly contest such immense political statespersons? Who could even begin to do better? Who might run the country with more flair, business acumen, patriotism and pride?
    Answers on a ballot paper in just over a fortnight.


    • gaxvil says:

      Of course they wouldn’t give the Brexit Party a mention if they weren’t pooping their pants at this time.
      UKIP have done a really good job of offing themselves but TBP is in a whole other universe and I’m not at all sure they realise just how much retribution is coming their way.
      Cosy Tory – Labour, Labour – Tory is over.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      What would be the point in a manifesto? As the Tories and Labour have demonstrated so well, they aren’t worth the paper they are written on. With no sanction by the voters; indeed sticking to them is viewed in many quarters, such as the BBC, as extremist.


      • G says:

        That’s perhaps the distinction between a ‘Democracy’ i.e. the people rule and a ‘Republic’ which adheres to law. For some while now, the UK has clandestinely moved from a democracy to a republic. So, ‘voila’, the ‘manifesto’ becomes irrelevant or, as someone beneath describes, ‘a fig leaf’. UK democracy was dead and buried many years ago.


  21. G.W.F. says:

    Royal baby has been named.

    Archie Harrison Stephen Yaxley Lennon Mountbatten-Windsor


    • gaxvil says:

      Archie is what you call a rabbit or small dog.


      • TrickCyclist says:

        Anyone else find it a bit ironic that one of the most well-known “Archies” in America (apart from Archie Comics) was Archie Bunker, the US version of Alf Garnet?


    • Jeff says:

      “Archie Harrison Stephen Yaxley Lennon…”
      Oh yes! Wouldn’t that be brilliant?!!


      • Oaknash says:

        Jordan would have been wiser
        If young Archie (who I think is to be be bought up gender neutral) wishes to self identify as a woman in the future, then he/she wont have to change his/her name.


      • Banania says:

        A name to bring us all together.


  22. Despairada says:

    I put this in the wrong thread.

    Having been away visiting relatives recently, I had a dose of actual TV. It was so nice to get a rest away from Radio 4 and my relatives were watching mostly the snooker world championship which was fine by me. One of them crassly remarked that they didn’t want a ‘Trump’ winning!

    Just before I left, I caught some of the Jeremy Vine prog on Channel 5. The panel were discussing whether it was ok to throw milkshakes over people. It was depressing to witness the hive mind anti Tommy comments. Boo Hiss, brexit brexit, far right, boo hiss.


    • G.W.F. says:


      Just suppose if someone threw a milkshake over Anna Soubry. And when arrested, facing an inevitable prosecution, called Tommy Robinson as a witness who would draw attention to the lack of police response to such incidents.


  23. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    I wonder if these 377 MPs who have had their credit cards stopped because of false expenses are being leaned on by the whips to vote in certain ways (WA, not going against may, stopping no deal etc)
    Maybe they don’t need ‘leaning on’ as about 600 of that shower are europhiles anyway.


  24. Despairada says:

    Further to observations about Archie being a gangster name, I just remembered the niggling fact trying to emerge which is the lovely Archie MacDonald, the Laird of Glenbogle in the series ‘Monarch of the Glen’. We have been watching some of the box set really as an antidote to, well, I don’t know really, everything. It might deteriorate towards the end but so far it is refreshingly non PC and it was a BBC series.

    The Laird in the series is an ‘Archibald’ as supposedly christened which prompts the thought that the royals are supposed to have proper names that the vicar wouldn’t object to at the christening ceremony. Neither Archie or Harrison qualify.

    I’m not really bothered what the wee mite is called. It’s just hard to resist a bit of bitching.


    • Demon says:

      Desparada, I saw that the first time round. Only the first series because, despite their being pro-Labour hints in some episodes the last but one was a pure Labour Party propaganda programme, making the Conservatives out to be sneering and lording over the poor people. Disgusting trash.


    • Banania says:

      Archie Andrews, anybody remember him/it? (PS. “Harry” is bad enough.)


  25. taffman says:

    \\Free TV licences: Labour say promise to keep them ‘lies in tatters’//
    Just scrap the thing altogether.


  26. Kaiser says:

    2 english clubs in the final #despitebrexit


  27. TrueToo says:

    I just watched yesterday’s Brexit Party rally at Peterborough on YouTube.

    In a day it’s had only 725 views, 30 likes and 11 comments. Not sure how that’s even possible. Could it be that Google is fiddling with the views by making the video hard to get to? I struggled to find it via a Google search and eventually got to it by searching on YouTube itself.

    Anyway, it was a smashing rally with the venue bursting at the seams and many fine speeches. I understand from Roland Deschain on the previous page that the BBC gave priority to a poorly-attended Change UK event, rather than the Brexit Party.

    The BBC is becoming more and more irrelevant to anyone wanting news that matters when it matters.


    • Kaiser says:

      clicked like still 30


    • taffman says:

      They can’t do Comedy, now they can’t do News .
      Other than propaganda, just what can they do ?


      • TrueToo says:


        What can the BBC do?

        Guzzle at the public trough, and that’s pretty much it.


    • TrueToo says:

      Update on the Brexit Party rally:

      It’s now had 842 views, 34 likes and 12 comments.

      A few relevant ones from yesterday:

      This is crazy, only 146 views and 3 comments, but we know this is the hottest party right now! Thanks for uploading. Not sure about the first speaker who voted to remain. He might be another Sarah Wollaston.

      The Twitter feed had over 30k views at the end. There was over 22k viewers during Widders bit. It was 27k when Nigel was about to start. Many many people are watching.

      pass the message check out the cuk party meeting with about 30 people in attendance

      I used different key words for a Google search and found many more uploads of the rally but none with more than 1 800 views.

      That really is very weird indeed.


      • G.W.F. says:

        I put many videos on You Tube and the numbers of views and likes are erratic. Sometimes they decrease and there are moments when they freeze at a certain number. Clearly some degree of tinkering is going on but it cannot be explained.


        • TrueToo says:


          YouTube says it sometimes has to reduce views because people who upload their videos artificially increase the number of views to make the upload attractive to advertisers.


      • Banania says:

        “…another Sarah Wollaston…”
        Is that possible?


  28. Peter Grimes says:

    Well if ever Sir Nige’s Brexit party needed a boost the programme which has just finished on Ch4 ‘Brexit behind closed doors’ should have done it.

    One of Verhofstadt’s minions exulting that ‘we are going to make them a colony’, ‘them’ being us!

    Oh and Oily Robbins having asked Verhofrothingstadt if he could become a Belgian citizen.


    • Beltane says:

      Yes, isn’t it heartwarming to know that Verhofstadt’s closest advisors are rabid Irish republicans. Probably one of those EU coincidences.


    • taffman says:

      ‘we are going to make them a colony’,
      Other people in history have said that and look what happened to them ?


      • NicG says:

        Agree absolutely! But at those times we had leaders with spine who were not afraid to push back. What do we have now?


  29. Eddy Booth says:

    EU elections are really no more than a chance to give two fingers to our government (especially if Tommy Gets a seat! )


    ”The European Parliament is merely a democratic figleaf for the EU.
    All of the meaningful decisions affecting the EU are not taken in the parliament, but in the commission, the council and other unelected bodies.
    EU citizens have little to no influence on the EU and its workings. EU decisions are generally irreversible. A change of government after a vote, which could change the direction of politics, cannot happen in the EU system.”


    • gaxvil says:

      China may be the political model fo the EU.
      ……. or is it the other way round.

      In the EU, at the moment, you can vote and it can make a difference.
      The longer term plan is change all that.


  30. RobRoy says:

    Always liked this guy. Dr Willie Soon takes such a lot of s**t from the eco-loons, yet he is an Astrophysicist and climate scientist so knows what he’s talking about. His presentation skills are great – he’s humorous, knowledgeable and very convincing with it. Well worth a watch, even just for the first 5 mins.
    The Sun Also Warms: Dr. Willie Soon Shows the Sun-Climate Connection – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KazGXAqgkds


    • Richard Pinder says:

      Calculating planetary surface temperatures made easy proves that even Albedo is mostly self regulatory. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V0jdPQ9aGbY

      But first, Astronomers pointed out to me that the temperature on Venus at the altitude that has identical pressure to that on the Earths surface is 1.176 times the Earths average surface temperature. The radiating temperature of Venus is 1.176 times that of the Earth. Coincidence they said, until in 2011, Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller, produced the “Unified Theory of Climate”.
      Then someone pointed out that James Clerk Maxwell proposed something like this in his 1871 book “Theory of Heat” saying that the temperature of a planet depends only on gravity, mass of the atmosphere, and heat capacity of the atmosphere.

      It makes the BBC, politicians, environmentalists and a sixteen year old girl, look like low IQ charlatans and fools, and puts in jeopardy a trillion dollar renewable energy business, which has become a vampiric drain on humanity.  Nikolov and Zeller have not been rewarded for making the greatest discovery in climatology in the 21st Century.  Instead, they have faced censorship. With the exceptions of esteemed sources such as biasedbbc.org, weatheraction, mensa and a tallbloke.




  31. Halifax says:

    If you need anymore evidence that the BBC is pro Islam and anti anything that 99.9% of people reading this believe in then look no further than the BBC News website.
    Nothing is reported regarding the on-going inquest into the Westminster bridge attack. Sky News whent into graphic detail regarding yesterday’s hearing recounting how they savagely killed people at random making them knell in front of them before slitting thier throats.
    That’s not worth reporting ? And why not BBC?? because it was carried out by Muslims not white Christians you think that we deserve it don’t you that it’s pay back for hundreds of years of Christian persecution and enslavery.
    Why why why do I have to pay for this cowerdly bias thats pro anything thats not white, male, or Christian.


    • Halifax says:

      Forgot to add Heterosexual.


    • G says:

      “If you need anymore evidence that the BBC is pro Islam and anti anything that 99.9% of people reading this believe in then look no further than the BBC News website.”
      Just started the short book, ‘The Red Trojan Horse – A concise Analysis of Cultural Marxism’ written by, Alasdair Elder. His simple explanation of the main tenet of Cultural Marxism is, “Critical Theory” (not to be confused with Critical Analysis). Sounds complicated and a subject which you would not tempt an advocate to explain. However, Elder put’s it very simply: “Critical Theory just means to criticize…….ceaselessly”. Totally sums up our “Worlds Most Trusted” If I am not mistaken.


      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        Critical Theory is part of how the ‘long march’ strategy works.

        Take some established institution in which the public sees as a necessary and useful service, the police or army for instance.

        Criticise it for not having enough black people. Get the standards lowered for entry. Employ more diversity bureaucrats. Repeat the process for women, gays, trans etc.

        Pretty soon the reason why the service originally existed (fighting crime, defending borders) will have been cynically turned into its exact opposite.

        The point is to destroy the effectiveness of those institutions. The same applies to teaching, the courts and justice system, any Government ministry, local councils/quangos etc. This has all been going on since the 1970’s if not before.

        The ‘criticism’ of Critical Theory never proposes any reasonable solutions – it’s always a demand for ‘equality and justice’ no matter the cost. The criticism is only to point out the deficiencies.

        So the solution ends up with us having a police force much more interested in wrongthink than burglary, attending LGBT rallies than knife murder, and exhibiting their political ‘impartiality’ as shown with Anna Soubry and Tommy Robinson.


        • Terminal Moraine says:

          G / imay

          Always good to remind ourselves of these points. What I think is noticeable is just how successful critical theory has been and how deep it has infiltrated so many institutions and everyday thinking. I see it everywhere.

          What’s also noticeable is that we’re watching two tectonic plates slowly colliding. The one that’s hell bent on deconstructing everything and where all truth is relative; the other is a cast iron religious belief system where truth is inviolable and absolute.

          It should be fairly obvious to anyone with an understanding of culture and psychology that sparks would fly when the two meet, but it seems our great leaders prefer to live in la la land.


    • Halifax says:

      Replying to my earlier post the BBC now reporting on the inquest……guess the gender and I presume the religion of the reporter….go on guess …….

      Hanna Yusuf, BBC reporter, at the inquest


  32. Guest Who says:

    David Baddiel is having an interesting day, the bbc will struggle to understand.


  33. Ed Hitter says:

    The BBC continues with its blatant, disgusting cover-up of the Rotherham rape gangs scandal.
    This morning’s ITV breakfast show carried a quite detailed report about the National Crime Agency’s latest revelation that another 40 people are being investigated over child sex abuse there dating back 20 years. They said the scale of systematic abuse was probably even bigger than previously thought.
    So I thought I’d flip over to the state broadcaster to see how they were covering this shocking story – nothing!
    And where is it on the biased BBC website? Well, if you dig quite deep you will eventually find seven paragraphs in the second item in the South Yorkshire sub section to the Yorkshire section of the Regional news.
    Nothing on the home page, nothing changes, no editorial integrity whatsoever. Utterly appalling standards, and we can only conclude that this is a deliberate policy to deceive.


  34. Guest Who says:

    Bibbysee morning, Greta-approved, Emole:

    UK flood planners ‘must prepare for worst’

    There are stark warnings about the effects of climate change, with suggestions entire communities could be forced to move because of the risk of floods. Launching a consultation on its strategy, Environment Agency chairwoman Emma Howard Boyd says that with global temperatures set to rise between 2C and 4C by 2100, some £1bn a year might need to be spent on flood management.

    “We can’t win a war against water by building away climate change with infinitely high flood defences,” she argues, calling for homes in at-risk areas to be adapted with raised electrics, hard flooring and flood doors. Environmental group Friends of the Earth agrees that “resilience-building” is important but says tackling the causes of climate change should be the priority.

    Last year, the independent Committee on Climate Change warned up to 1.2 million homes could be at risk from coastal floods by 2080. Want to understand why UK floods are on the rise? Check out our guide. And you can brush up on your climate change background in our handy Q&A .


    The deeds for our home go back to the sixteenth century. Despite living near a river, it has never flooded.

    Upriver, councils keep building affordable housing on flood plains, apparently unaware of what the name suggests.

    So they then ‘keep building ever higher flood defences’ to protect these new communities.

    Which sends more water downstream..

    Such councils are the ones who declare climate emergencies because men in ponytails tell kids to shout at them on Fridays.

    And the BBC remains as idiotic as ever.


    • Guest Who says:

      And prolific.



    • gb123 says:

      GW, I have similar experiences. One of our homes was protected by a simple flood protection scheme designed by monks one thousand years ago to protect wells used to make beer. The council built new flood defences and guess which parts of the town flooded and which were perfectly ok.


      • BigBrotherCorporation says:

        Ditto. Our home is perched on a hill, as are all the homes locally over 40/50 years old. Which was traditional in this part of the West Country, we’re surrounded by old Celtic hill forts, Saxon hill settlements, Roman villas (on hillsides), and Norman castle towns (on hilltops) etc…

        Over the last 30 years, or so, they’ve filled in the gaps in between high ground with thousands of new homes (to house ex-Londoners fleeing the city and the jobless benefit scroungers with dozens of kids shipped out of the cities). Nearly all these new houses being built on old water meadows, flood plains, and river valleys, and mostly without any real green space, soakaways, culverts, ditches, or ponds between them – in fact, those are routinely filled in and built over so they can cram a few more rabbit hutches in.

        Now, apparently, flooding locally is far worse… ‘cos of global warming, and for some reason, it’s always these new homes at the bottom of the valleys that get flooded.

        There are also concerns for local wetland wildlife: birds, amphibians, bats etc… which seem to have declined in numbers, for some mysterious reason.

        Can’t help thinking it’s all connected somehow, if only I could work it out…


    • Up2snuff says:

      The big question for Emma Howard Boyd: are the Environment Agency now going to properly manage water courses and areas of standing water in future?

      That means dredging, clearing debris, plant and sub-surface growth. Intensive, country-wide, regular work, year after year and sometimes requiring very heavy equipment.


  35. Guest Who says:

    Can you see what it is yet?

    ‘Brexit inspired’ 🙂


  36. Guest Who says:

    Ray is a big Gavin fan, amazingly.


  37. Guest Who says:

    Grabs popcorn.


    • G.W.F. says:

      You can’t beat the racism charge. Wins every time


      • JamesArthur says:

        When is a chimp /monkey going to dis-associated with racism?
        I was called a cheeky monkey – I have called kids cheeky monkeys never with race in mind –
        So Danny Baker has a clear career ruined by one tweet….the BBC must be patting themselves on the back with their big pot of virtue signalling
        Would it have been okay if it was a goat in a coat?


  38. Deborah says:

    How long had Toady been waiting to use the item about Climate Change it used today? First really wet day for ages and up pops the item about CC causing flooding and communities having to be moved away from the coast. Here we are still running a soil moisture deficit and are grateful for all the rain we are getting……for the moment anyway.


  39. theisland says:

    Libdum slogan for their EU election campaign is ‘Bollocks to Brexit.’

    As an antidote the following article clearly debunks the common arguments we are bombarded with by the usual suspects in favour of a second referendum.


  40. Doobster78 says:

    As usual , the Democrats playing dirty, left games but nothing they do ever sticks. They must be sick as chips right now !!! Really is a pleasure to see the liberal lefties not getting it all their own way, like they are used to.

    Constantly stamping their feet, crying like babies !!! Beautiful.


    • TrueToo says:


      Good man, Jim Jordan. Tough, steady, wrestling champ but doesn’t flaunt his achievements, just appeals to people’s sense of morality and fair play.

      Not an easy thing to do when surrounded by the jackals who make up the Democrats and some Republicans.


  41. Guest Who says:

    Katty better watch her back. Victoria has wicked skills. I suppose.


  42. Doobster78 says:

    Lammy baiting again on Twitter. If this was someone from the Right and not the Far Left, account would be suspended no doubt. Those double standards at play again. To be fair, he basically just a figure of fun on twitter now anyway.



  43. Kaiser says:

    hey up the BBC has found some more child grooming/rape victims it cares about



  44. Thoughtful says:

    Some rather troubling information is coming to light about the anti Brexit party ‘Change UK’ with allegations that a senior member Mike Gapes has let slip the party is receiving funding direct from the EU.


    Gapes gave a disastrous interview to LBC when he accused Nigel Farage of accepting donations from dodgy sources, but unlike the BBC Iain Dale challenged Gapes to provide evidence of his accusations which he was of course unable to do.


    Inspecting House of Commons register reveals that Gapes is no stranger to dodgy donation himself having accepted thousands of pounds in benefits from our old friend the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.


    He is not alone, it appears many of our poorly paid MPs have accepted ‘inducements’ from Saudi with one MP being paid £46 000 as a ‘consultant’ to the Kingdom. Others have accepted expensive gifts, bending the rules to allow themselves to accept them in some cases.


    This funding was extended by Saudi’s Shura Council.


    Bribery and corruption is always a risk when people are in power, however when those people are not paid properly for the job they do then the risks become even greater.

    There can be no doubt here that the Change UK party has some serious questions to answer regarding the source of its funding, and on top of that we see yet again Saudi Arabia mixed up in it all providing financial inducement for the Islamisation of Britain.


  45. Doobster78 says:

    Breaking News – Danny Baker fired from BBC. Who saw that one coming …. oh the professionally offended strike again.



    • Guest Who says:

      I blame Thatcher.


      • Thoughtful says:

        Don’t forget the BBC sacked Kenny Everett for much less:

        In 1965 he was sacked after some outspoken remarks about religion on air.

        In 1970 Everett was sacked by the BBC for making a jibe about Mary Peyton, the wife of the then Minister of Transport, after she had taken her driving test – “She only passed because she slipped him a fiver – I know these people”.

        The BBC took him back, but in 1984 he made another unfortunate joke, albeit one handed him on a piece of paper by his producer:

        “When England was an empire,” he gurgled, “we had an emperor, when we were a kingdom, we had a king, and now we are a country, we’ve got Margaret Thatcher.”

        (Despite this being a note being passed to him by a producer, and his well known support for the Tories)
        Which is probably why he was sacked in the first place.


  46. s.trubble says:

    What Danny Baker could be revealing is his Irish republican sympathies and anti monarchy views……you could imagine the state broadcaster having some difficulty sacking him for that…..


    • Beltane says:

      But what about the immense loss to broadcasting, humour, standards of integrity and incised comment on social mores, eh?
      Answer that if you can.


  47. Non Snowflake says:

    The MSM has just informed me that the royal baby is “doing well”.

    Only a few days old, already a millionaire, and doesn’t have to do a day’s work in its life.

    Doing rather better than “well” me thinks.


    • Helen Richardson says:

      It depends on your definition of “work”. It could be argued that there are quite a few people in that category.

      In any case, you don’t have a clue about what he’s going to do.


    • Beltane says:

      I loved Megan’s line ‘He’s such a peaceful baby…..’
      Wait ’til he wakes up, love.


    • Banania says:

      That is a cheap and mean-minded comment. The child can’t help its parentage, and its family can’t help their position in society. Would you change places with them?


  48. gaxvil says:

    Bit miffed actually.
    We grew up under the ongoing threat of nuclear annihilation and I got to thinking well, children don’t have to endure that these days. Then along comes theoretical Climate Disaster and actual knife crime.


    • RobRoy says:

      Gaxvil, And when you think how much the BBC bleat on about mental health and the young… then stop with your constant climate scare stories and propaganda you fools!


  49. john in cheshire says:

    This video is about 5G and Mark Steele in Gateshead. He’s being prosecuted for telling the truth. It’s 12 mins long. Listen to what he says about South Korea at about 6 mins 30 secs.