Start the Week Open Thread 6 May 2019

We could witness The Sell Out this week or a General Election date or can kicking again  . But even after the Local Elections there has been no change in bias from the Far Left  Remainer Failing BBC.

The life of a prospective MEP has been threatened . The police are involved . Let’s hope the Main Stream Media supports anyone using the legal democratic process to carry forward their view as opposed to the mob..

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293 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 6 May 2019

  1. Guest Who says:

    Threat level: incredible.

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  2. StewGreen says:

    Backlinks to previous thread
    Been quiet ..Only 2 pages : page 2 ..started Saturday 10:30pm and took ups to Sunday at 9pm
    : page 1 ..started Friday 10pm and took ups to Saturday at 10pm

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  3. StewGreen says:

    Yes TR has had another Osman Warning
    A visit from the police to warn him of credible threat to his life
    But I find it bizarre that Youtube deliberately hinder him from raising awareness
    .. as they deliberately hinder you from watching it, by putting in lots of click-through barriers
    Here’s a screenshot I Tweeted
    D51UBJlXkAE-OCh.jpg:small

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    • StewGreen says:

      Here’s that 6 minute video where he talks to the police

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      • StewGreen says:

        A shorter 2 minute video his team tweeted

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      • lojolondon says:

        Pretty bad – you get the feeling that the police are giving a British citizen warnings of threats of attacks on his life, but not so they can take action, but so they can show that they warned him. So really satisfying the paperwork monkey, but not actually doing anything.

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  4. StewGreen says:

    Can someone confirm that the convicted MP Onasanya
    voted on the Cooper Letwin bill
    otherwise Bercow could have need to add his own vote
    That gives a reason to sign this petition
    21K and climbing
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/255223?fbclid=IwAR1MWnA2jzMFNfeL7-62qUPT5o8gMQEFJZ_x4PCXt8ugqHrPI97YrO70iQc

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  5. Deborah says:

    I watched Countryfile this evening. Over two separate items rising sea levels were mentioned at least 5 times. Yet notalotofpeopleknowthat last year reported that levels are rising at less than 2mm a year on average.

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2018/07/04/latest-sea-level-junk-science/.

    But I also recently attended a meeting where a man from LLoyds of London was speaking about flooding on the east coast of America and explained how there would be increased flooding and greater claims costingNames more because of rising sea levels.

    I know I cannot do anything about the BBC, but I should have called out the speaker, but didn’t think have the facts to hand. Tell a lie often enough and it becomes the truth.

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Deborah ..irrespective of sea level, LAND SINKS in some areas
      .. On east coast Louisiana this is due to things like making canals for the oil industry
      In the UK that’s cos Britain is tilting from Scotland towards the channel.
      etc. etc.

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      • Annunaki says:

        Known as isostatic rebound after Scotland was weighed down with ice last ice age, known by those who actually study environment and climate, unlike teen girls more interested in Barbie and ponies

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        • MartinW says:

          Yes, I was waiting without any hope whatsoever, for someone to explain that the apparent sea-level rise was, in fact, not a rise at all (or an imperceptible one), but due to isostatic change. Of course, isostacy is a word BBC journalists are banned from using, for fear it might dilute the MMCC propaganda.

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          • Beltane says:

            Not so Martin, it is unfair to say that isostacy is banned by BBC journalists. They have simply never heard of it, nor that there are actually qualified environmental scientists and experts on climate who understand and use the word correctly, and hold opinions radically different from their own.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Annu, also two tectonic plates meet in North Sea, and ‘our one’ is the one sliding under t’other Continental one.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Stew, in Florida there has been so much housing & condo developments in a beach area that it is said to actually be weighing down that particular stretch of coastline exacerbating localised flooding during storms.

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  6. Nibor says:

    We haven’t had the BBC Brexit challenge for a month . It seems to keep Maxicony away .

    Maybe the remainer types think that the prize money will be upped as time goes on as they trawl the archives . Wrong , it’s going to be reduced .

    £1000 now to any remainer that can prove Al Beeb has ever made a programme , television or radio , that has proved beyond all reasonable doubt that Brexit is a Good Thing . Terms and conditions don’t apply , just prove that the BBC has made a pro Brexit programme .
    Do it within 48 hours . After that the bounty is reduced to £500 . After another 24 hours it’s £300 , then another 24 hours it’s £100 , then after a fortnight £10 .

    Remainers that visit here ;

    Tell me where I can put this challenge on a Remainer site .

    Spread the message .

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    • taffman says:

      Nibor
      Other than Al Beeb, is there a Remainer site ?
      Perhaps maxincony will read this and enlighten us .
      Over to you maxincony………………..
      ?

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      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        Maxi only does cameo appearances these days

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Taffman
        You ask if there is a remainer site – yes – it’s called the B. B. C. ( I have a degree in stating the xxxx obvious- I got a 4th )

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        • taffman says:

          Fedup2
          You should have a first class honors for that.
          ‘Dda iawn’ as we do say in Brexit Land.

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  7. taffman says:

    Has Al Beeb reported the Royal Navy’s fury at the £1 BN contract to build a warship going to Spain ? Could this be under the directions of the EU?

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    • theisland says:

      Not classed as ‘warships’ (apparently) so must be put out to tender under EU rules!!!

      And as for the bBC (not to mention the Labour Party) – well THEY COULDN’T CARE LESS.

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      • taffman says:

        theisland
        “THEY COULDN’T CARE LESS.”
        Because they are absolutely useless.
        So , has Al Beeb covered the story yet ?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Taffman
      I think you’ll find it’s being built by the argies …☠️

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  8. Rich says:

    No one else noticed this yet. Enjoy.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6995979/BBCs-highest-paid-presenter-Gary-Lineker-receives-monthly-demand-unpaid-TV-licence.html

    Note the typically disingenuous, “I work for the BBC a lot” from the bBC “self-employed” , “comments are my own” employee.

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  9. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1 and the BBC’s short-term memory loss or dementia or both.

    The UN has been using taxpayer money to finance a load (250?!) of so-called ‘scientists’ to scare us again. One of them states on the TOADY Prog “What is really scary is what we don’t know.”.

    Yesss.

    What is also scary is that the BBC have completely forgotten (well, The Humph and the programme Editors and Editor in Chief have) what the last report from the UN said, remember the one from the IPCC last October? That one told us we must stop eating beef and plough up our forests and savannahs to grow vegan crops for the world’s population to graze on.

    Stop! Start eating beef and lamb again.

    Now we have to save the dung beetle and zillions of flies.

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    • Rich says:

      The bBC are crowing about the size of the audience who watched the apparently a bit of a damp squib finale of the much-heralded “Line of Duty” last night.

      There has been blanket previewing, promotion and praising of the series and the bBC in anticipation of this programme right across the media for the past week or so, encouraging almost 10 million viewers to tune in to watch what appears to have been in essence a pilot for the next series.

      10 million. In 1986, and I know this was over 30 years ago, 30 million viewers tuned in to watch Den serve Angie divorce papers in a Christmas day Eastenders. Granted this was Christmas Day, but in November 1979 another bBC series finale drew an audience of nearly 24 million viewers. The series, non-threatening, non-violent, non-political or politically correct, and certainly not “woke”, “To the Manor Born”.

      Says a whole lot about the significance and relevance of both television and the bBC today doesn’t it?

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  10. MarkyMark says:

    “Happy Ramadan 2019! A period where we forget that Mohammed was a war monger, slave owner and slept with a child aged 9. And celebrate Mohammed who was a war monger, slave owner and slept with a child aged 9 whilst craving for water and food.
    Inshallah. ”

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  11. MarkyMark says:

    “Happy Ramadan 2019! If you celebrate this and are NOT MUSLIM then that is cultural appropriation. You have been warned. Enjoy! (but only if you are Muslim)” – Dawn Butler

    cb39bee78c073871b826593729636eb4dd5b696be7082fd344fde7f1f15f2d6b.png

    https://guardianmeme.win/

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    • Annunaki says:

      Cultural appropriation ? are they all still living in tents in their pajamas with no iphones, Golf GTIs / BMWs or designer clothes ? if not why not

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      • Kaiser says:

        she knows all about appropriating things

        wiki

        Expenses controversy
        In March 2009, Butler came under criticism for claiming almost the full £23,000 annual second home allowance, despite her other home in Stratford being the same distance from Parliament as her Brent South home.[20][21] She had claimed £2,650 for new central heating and £2,308 for a suite including a whirlpool bath.[22] She was found to have acted in accordance with the rules as they stood by the subsequent official investigation.[23]

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      • NCBBC says:

        Virtually everything about Dawn B except her race is cultural appropriation, chief of which is that she is alive and not dead because of infant mortality in Africa before Western medicine and engineering.

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    • vlad says:

      Dawn B: Idiot.

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  12. Annunaki says:

    Rama bleeding dam, already sick of hearing about it, So no more milkshakes for next few days ? TR should get all his campaigning done during daylight

       66 likes

    • NCBBC says:

      Reality of Ramadan
      1. Most Muslims gain weight during Ramadan, as they pig themselves after dark .
      2, Doing Jihad in Ramadan counts as double points. That is why there is an uptick of jihad murders at Ramadan.

      Ramadan Death Count by the year

      http://the-eyeontheworld.blogspot.com

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  13. Demon says:

    In previous years people have listed the tallies of people murdered as a result of Ramadan. Some Israelis have been killed, and some Palestinians as a result of Israel responding.

    Although it is probable that some Palestinians were killed by their own side by misfiring rockets, or worse – deliberately – to blame Israel as they know that the elite in the Western World, UN etc. are always looking to accuse the Jewish state of all crimes. And it doesn’t matter if they are actually guilty of the accusations or not, Israel’s very existence is too much for anti-Semites like McDonnell and Corbyn to allow.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      I do admire this plucky little state, apparently in a hopeless and indifensible (militarily) position- against overwhelming odds. I first became interested in it in the 1967 war, and recall images of a desert of abandoned boots, left behind by fleeing armies. Whatever the political and historic case for its existence, it has lived on the edge since 1948…

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      • NCBBC says:

        June 1967 was when I first took real interest in Israel. Much smaller in land area and population then now. Largely agricultural based on the kibbutz. Still recovering from the holocaust, which was then “living memory”. And surrounded by powerful Arab states threatening a once and for all extinction of Jews in the very land of Israel.

        Israelis were sad that Israel was going to die. Even the one western state that supported them, France under de Gaulle, imposed sanctions on them.

        Before the day was out, Arab armies had been smitten (almost in a Biblical manner).

        For several days, Arab governments pretended they were winning.

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        • TrueToo says:

          Yes, the 1967 war, otherwise known as the Six-Day War.

          Israel’s enemies like to portray Israel as starting the war, but in fact Nasser had massed tanks in the Sinai, expelled UN peacekeepers, ranted hysterically on radio about Israel’s imminent demise and, in an act of war, closed the Straits of Tiran to Israeli shipping.

          Syria, meanwhile, was upping it’s belligerent firing on Israeli communities from the Golan Heights.

          In a pre-emptive strike, Israel took out practically the entire Egyptian Air Force on the ground.

          A BBC reporter was there, allegedly to cover the war. He couldn’t believe that Israel was winning and would not report that fact back to headquarters.

          Nothing’s changed in 52 years.

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      There are mosques in Israel. About 20% of the population of Israel is Muslim.

      The BBC never mention this.

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      • NCBBC says:

        There are mosques in Jerusalem, the centre of Jewish religion and culture.

        How many synagogues in Mecca?

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        • Ian Rushlow says:

          Exactly the same number of synagogues in Mecca as there are churches. Zero. And non-Muslims (i.e. 80% of the World’s population) are not even allowed to enter Mecca:
          328 Punishment for Non-Muslims for Entering to Makkah and Madina 02
          Contrast with Jerusalem, where people of any or no faith are permitted to visit all Jewish and Christian sites.

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  14. MarkyMark says:

    “Alan B’Stard makes the case for a Brexit”

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    • Old Goat says:

      Shades of Farage (in terms of oratory..).

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      • StewGreen says:

        That is uncanny satire
        obviously Rick Mayall plays B’stard as a right arrogant git
        ..but the character speaks a lot of truth
        ..especially about the “spineless” Tory leader panel behind him

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  15. Non Snowflake says:

    Currently cold wind and hailstones where I live in Stoke.

    Anyone else being affected by global warming in a similar way?

       56 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      Yes! The BBC gets in my face daily with global warming.

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    • Old Goat says:

      Cold and windy in France. No sign of any warming, let alone the global variety, here, yet.

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    • Beltane says:

      A simple way in which to confirm climate change statistics, and feel as one with mankind (allowing for sexual variation) is to take your free Guardian CC Thermometer into the garden and briefly apply a lighted match to the bulb end.
      This will result in an immediate and gratifying rise in temperature, in line with current belief, confirming all your wildest fears. Enjoy.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Non – I remember the summer of 76 and 78 when the tar on the roads melted . In the latter year I nearly came a cropper as the car I was driving skidded on melted tar . Wonder if grettas mum and dad had been born then . ….

      That’s one of the many reasons I see this green stuff as a threat almost as big as Islam – wanting to impose their social control on me.

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      • Beltane says:

        Do you also remember the summer in between, 1977, when crops rotted in waterlogged fields because combine harvesters went down to their axles in mud, unable to work, and the daytime temperatures were some of the lowest on record.
        Strangely, all the experts at the time of the previous drought, in 1976, interviewed on BBC radio and forecasting ‘permanent northern European climatic change and crop choice’ had nothing to say on the subject in 1977. Or maybe the BBC didn’t ask.

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        • gaxvil says:

          That is the brilliant and possibly unique advantage of being a Climate Change zealot, they can NEVER be wrong:-
          1) Cold, windy, rainy = Climate Change
          2) Hot, dry, drought = Climate Change
          3) Mild Winter = Climate Change
          4) Severe Winter = Climate Change
          Pollution is bad, agreed – look at Dheli etc., but any reasonably educated person can read weather records and diary entries for years gone by. There can be no reason not to ?

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          • Navets says:

            Gax
            This year, the moveable Christian Feast, known as Easter, was very close to the latest it can possibly be. This didn’t stop the muppet BBC weather presenter on Easter Sunday announcing this Easter to be the warmest on record in Scotland and Wales and one of the warmest in England. They just can’t help themselves.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            gax, and who was it that bolted the Climate Change onto Global Warming in the UK with such enthusiasm; with help from his Parliamentary colleagues some of whom still remain there. His surname is often deliberately mistyped as a commentary on his probity.

            I’ll give you three guesses ….

            You should need only one.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      As I recall a UN spokesman saying on the news some years back: “Climate change will most likely result in the world getting considerably hotter, but it may get cooler or not even change at all. However, this does not mean that climate change isn’t real”.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Non Snowflake,

      Global warming here too south of Tel Aviv. It expressed itself as an unusually cold and rainy April.

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  16. Fedup2 says:

    Not particulary busy on the site but not directly bias …

    Spoiler alert

    Tips for watchers of police procedurals – if a fairly well known actoress is in it they may well be the baddy

    And crime watch —-

    Last night in my Londonistan borough – a triple shooting ( only one ‘serious ‘ )

    A serious stabbing

    A murder using a car with another with the proverbial
    ‘Life changing ‘threatening ‘ injuries …

    Plus a stabbing murder in Sarf Londonistan . I don’t think this stuff makes the local news as they are too busy doing some Islamic thing which I don’t want to know about – nor the special section in the local Sainsbury’s for it .

    Londonistan homicide rate at about 1 every 2 days but apparently it’s getting safer….

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Fedup
      For the near to last comment on the Weekend thread I pressed the report button
      .. It contains a non-PC trigger-word twice,

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Stew – hell I missed it . Nice confession though …. feeling flippant as I’m in a big airport flying far far away soon?

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        • StewGreen says:

          Confession, no it wasn’t something I wrote
          It’s the 11:01pm post

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          • TrueToo says:

            StewGreen,

            I went to the bottom of the last thread to have a look. The culprit used an unspeakable abbreviation to refer to those who originally emanated from a Middle East country under the yoke of the Religion of Peace.

            I’m not sure why that particular word has such negative and insulting connotations and is seen as so disparaging that a tiny child was brought before some far-left outfit to be disciplined because he used the word to describe his swarthy friend. That was several years ago.

            I play a word game, Lexulous, that allows all manner of deeply insulting tags for people of various races and countries. But the game will not allow the aforementioned abbreviation.

            Anyway, thanks for the tip. While it’s still not illegal so to do I have replaced the offending word with one to describe the religion of those the culprit referred to.

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  17. Fedup2 says:

    I was lucky to hear only a bit of Toady . They were talking about S&M M&S inventing the LGBT sandwich . Which apparently queer people find demeaning . There has no discussion of another minority group called ‘heterosexuals’ having an equivalent sandwich .

    A prize will…. not …. be given for anyone who comes up with an appropriate version – subject of course to to Normal rules of manners upheld by our website . I think it’s only right that minorities like heterosexuals should have representation here as the BBC is in favour of that version of ‘inclusivity’ ….

    ( apparently guacamole is the new G)…..

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  18. Guest Who says:

    He and Greta make a lovely ‘stop’ couple.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Apparently Greta has declared that it’s not ‘ climate change ‘ any more . It’s something which has a bit more drama about it .

      I’ve been tainted by the image of milliband the younger hanging on every word that the delightful 16 year old says . If she were a few months younger he could be described as a potential paedophile judging by the unquestioning adoration he showed to the school girl .
      Wait til she discovers boys / girls/ objects / animals ..

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    • StewGreen says:

      Saint : David Hogg like Greta is a modern child prophet
      “survived the Stoneman Douglas High School 2018 shooting and then became a gun control advocate”
      He’s got a place at Harvard despite not having near high enough grades.
      “illegal alien” is a word used in US laws .. so is not a slur

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I think Mr Hogg looks like an alien, illegal our otherwise, with his triangular shaped face.

      Could that explain why he’s upset by the description ‘ illegal alien ‘?

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  19. taffman says:

    “Buffett seeks UK investment despite Brexit”
    “Warren Buffett has said he wants to invest more in the UK and other parts of Europe, despite uncertainty over the UK’s future relationship with the EU.
    The US investment guru said he would like his firm, Berkshire Hathaway, to be better known across the Atlantic.”
    Despite Brexit and our totally useless government that has done zilch for the last three years.
    Good old Brexit – Vote UKIP & The Brexit Party and show them what democracy is all about !

       42 likes

  20. 7Clubs says:

    Dawn Butler is a 100/1 to be next leader.You could do worse.

       16 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      7clubs
      I’ll take that bet . A good east end gal – makes Diane Abbot look like a maths teacher . Ideal first labour leader ( excluding the 2 temps)

         17 likes

      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Diane Abbot looks like several maths teachers to me 🙂

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        • john in cheshire says:

          Miss Abbott probably thinks that eating alphabetti spaghetti makes you erudite and a best-selling author.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    BBC The ClimateZombie army that never sleeps
    7 pages of PR for IPBES report “Nature Crisis”, “Nature Emergency”
    I can tell it’s PR cos stories that have nice round numbers like “upto one million”, always are PR
    Googling : The Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity
    gives me

    Nature loss: Report to show scale of ‘silent crisis’ – BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48160456
    2 hours ago
    has spent the last three years working on the …

    Nature crisis: ‘Shocking’ report details threat to species – BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48169783

    Four things to expect this week – BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-48146615

    Nature’s emergency: Where we are in five graphics – BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48104037

    * What does a biodiversity emergency mean for humans? – BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/science-environment-48142018/what-does-a-biodiversity-emergency-mean-for-humans .

    * Identical page with a slightly different title
    Why nature’s crisis is one for humans too – BBC News
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/48142018/what-does-a-biodiversity-emergency-mean-for-humans

    Biodiversity heroes: The teenagers saving Madagascar’s wildlife – BBC
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-48113501
    3 days ago – With its somewhat ungainly title, the Intergovernmental Science-Policy Platform on Biodiversity and Ecosystem Services (IPBES) will publish a …

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    • StewGreen says:

      It’s one million of what total ??
      If reports as they do, fail to put that important context, then they are just PR
      Everyone knows there are millions of undiscovered species
      Such that total living species are somewhere between 2 million and ONE trillion species.

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  22. Thoughtful says:

    I see May is planning another betrayal of Brexit with the Labour party and is talking about a 3 way referendum, where no doubt there will be two leave options and one remain in order to split the leave vote and get the result the elites want.

    I honestly hope Corbyn gets elected and imposes a swingeing wealth tax on the rich, punishing the stupid Tories who have backed May because they wanted remain at any price over backing Boris because they didn’t want Brexit.
    A good 20 years with a wealth tax would make sure the wealthy fools bankrolling the Tory party were made ordinary like the rest of us, and learned the meaning of conservatism, and the need to preserve it regardless of priviledge and wealth.

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    • gaxvil says:

      As someone said, maybe it is time for a good dose of Socialism ?
      The young haven’t ever experienced it and when all the money has gone and they’re still not happy they can try something else. Though personally I think that would be taking ‘tough love’ too far and clearly the lesson has not been learned.
      What we REALLY need, is is a right of centre party that puts this country’s NEEDS and interests FIRST.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        But you aren’t going to get that out of the Tory party and Farage created a single issue one again which cannot carry that mantle.

        We all know that socialism will fail because it always has, but what hasn’t happened in the past is the old money groups being made to suffer.

        We need a deep wealth tax which will hurt Tory supporters and make them keenly aware that if their MPs ‘f**k’ about like they have been doing they will be rapidly de-selected and out on their ears.
        This happened with Dominic Grieve who should have been de-selected, but hasn’t been because spineless Torys find it too difficult.

        Wanna know what’s difficult? Being told that you are going to lose 25% pa of your investments because you failed to take the neccesary action when you should have.

        Make the pips squeak that’s when Tories sit up and take notice.

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      • imaynotalwaysloveyou says:

        Well, given that the lib-dems are mostly socialists, greens are anti-capitalist, 99% of tories are useless greedy pinkoes, 48% of the country are big-statist remainers and the news & entertainment media are all promoting socialism and multiculturalism in one form or another…

        Then I say yes, let’s give them all a dose of McDonell/Corbyn socialism, it’s what they’ve all been waiting for.

        Yes – it’s true we’ll all be hit with the collateral damage of even higher taxes, and whatever other loony policies they might bring in to grind our faces into even more diversity.

        But we could view it as delivering as sudden intracardiac injection of adrenaline. It’ll certainly wake up anyone who hasn’t lived through socialism, or those who’ve forgotten.

        I think the country probably needs to be bankrupted and on the verge of serious disorder to effect the kind of radical changes required to defeat progressivism. It might not be possible without some kind of separation/secession.

        Personally I’m utterly sick to death of left-wing people. Especially the holier-than-thou variety. Everything they are in favour of makes my life worse.

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    • Navets says:

      Thoughtful
      It will not be just the rich who are taxed “till their pips squeak”. I started work on 1977 when the basic rate of Income Tax was 35%. I’m sure all of the SJW types would just shrug it off as being for the greater good.

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      • Thoughtful says:

        It won’t Navets you’re right, but until the Tory gradees who are all wealthy people feel the pain nothing will change.

        Although I doubt Labour will impose a wealth tax, because most of them like Emma Thompson are also very wealthy.

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        • Demon says:

          Thoughtful, the Tory grandees will ensure that they pay only a minimum of tax. As will the rich left-wing types.

          They can all afford to buy an accountant who will know and show all loopholes, of which the rest of us remain in ignorance, to avoid paying their full share of tax.

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  23. Big Al says:

    Petition :Remove Gary Lineker from BBC , apologies if this has been posted before.

    http://chng.it/YVYm7wRkdd

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  24. Annunaki says:

    Climate change activists are planning a “blockade” at a Cambridge city centre petrol station.

    https://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/climate-change-activists-plan-blockade-16233552

    Protesters are set to arrive at the BP garage in Elizabeth Way at 10am on Saturday, May 11, and they plan on staying there until 12pm.

    A post on the Extinction Rebellion Cambridge Facebook page says: “If there are enough people we will create a blockade.”

    In March Cambridge University lecturer Jason Scott-Warren launched a one-man protest outside the garage.

    He said: “[This petrol station] annoys me because it’s at the end of my road and it’s painted green.

    “The fact that it’s green is something carried out by fossil fuel companies to pretend to be concerned by climate change.

    “I think there should be a government health warning on every petrol pump. I’m here being a little government health warning of my own.

    “This place is dangerous.”

       24 likes

    • Eddy Booth says:

      Painted green ..
      What next ?
      a bunch of far left thugs painted up as anti-nazis

         25 likes

    • JimS says:

      Who ‘owns’ the colour green?

      We had a Pratt’s petrol can that belonged to my grandfather, it was green. When we used paraffin to take off the chill the variety sold by Regent was coloured green.

      Brown would be a more appropriate colour for the Climate Clowns, it is the colour of earth, tree trunks, plants without carbon dioxide and their policies.

         29 likes

    • Dave S says:

      Given that the idiot has announced his intention the police should do the job they are paid to do and enforce the law and the right of free access. If necessary with extreme prejudice .

         21 likes

    • PRW73 says:

      “A post on the Extinction Rebellion Cambridge Facebook page says: “If there are enough people we will create a blockade.””
      Pity they didn’t blockade the tanker refuelling Emma Thompson’s flight back to LA

         23 likes

      • gaxvil says:

        The loss of habitat and consequent loss or reduction of species is down to one thing -too many people, so the best solution would be a World war, worldwide pestilence or mass suicide.
        Any XR volunteers for the latter ?

           16 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      There is no known physical force in nature to stop a motorist from getting to the petrol / diesel pump. Fact . It’s lucky Jason Scott- hyphen doesn’t know about green shield stamps …I’ve almost got enough for 20 players …

         14 likes

  25. Guest Who says:

    If this does not snag Jon and the gang a Pulitzer, what will?

       18 likes

    • vlad says:

      I thought beauty pageants were sexist and demeaning things of the past, frowned upon by the high-minded beeb.
      Depends who wins them apparently.
      Racist, sexist beeb.

         60 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      Women of colour, surely? Someone needs to report for training.

         10 likes

  26. BRISSLES says:

    I realise its de rigeur for nature and countryside programmes to have a presenter of Indian/Pakistani heritage to be front and centre stage – (and has been said countless times on here) despite never seeing this section of our ‘community’ within a hair’s breadth of a bloody tractor; but several times over the weekend I have listened to ladies of the same culture, pontificating on various sports in the sporting section of the rolling news ! Again having never seen a Pakistani/Indian female at any football match that I’ve attended, I find it hard to believe that they can be so knowledgeable about the offside rule, let alone discuss in detail the various golfing terms or the intricacies of Formula 1 or what’s expected to win the 4.30 at Wincanton !!!

       64 likes

    • JimS says:

      It’s amazing what some people can become interested in when a £100k+ salary is on offer!

         40 likes

  27. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    The way that may and her bunch of traitors are saying how they are interpreting the council massacre results makes me think.
    Just suppose that the Brexit party and UKIP get a massive 80%+ of the seats in the eu election.
    She would simply say “we get the message, you want us to get on with Brexit and the way to do it is vote for the withdrawal agreement”

    She is like those 3 monkeys covering their eyes, ears and mouths, shutting out everything.
    How is she getting away with all the damage she is doing.
    Everything she touches turns to shit and every decision she has made has been the wrong one.
    It’s unreal.

       68 likes

    • G says:

      EG,
      “She would simply say “we get the message, you want us to get on with Brexit and the way to do it is vote for the withdrawal agreement””.
      You’ve got it in one!

         19 likes

  28. G.W.F. says:

    Royal baby born. A boy.
    Normally I would not find this interesting, but as the BBC are so obsessed with skin colour, I might ask if it is a POC or a Baby OC.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-47983386

       27 likes

    • Cooper_Man says:

      I bet Meghan the Merkin is livid that the Palace have taken it upon themselves to designate the gender of the baby at such an early point of it ‘s life.

         45 likes

      • Fred Stubber says:

        The child is born! Poor little blighter. An over-opinionated mother who’s determined to put the Royal Family to rights (so that’s not going to end well is it?). I wonder if she’ll allow it to be brought up as a boy — or will have to be ‘gender non-specific’? Will it be allowed a normal diet or will it decide at age one week ‘entirely independently’ to be a vegan? And if it’s a vegan will it be allowed mother’s milk, or will it just get carrot juice?

        Still, I’ve no doubt Harry will look after the kid and he’ll help it survive the trauma of the inevitable divorce. After all he knows how bad it is when mum acts the fool then disappears.

        OK, that’s me off to the Tower. Hope my in-cell telly will get Quest HD. It’s the only channel I can find that isn’t permanently right-on (except for all the mixed race couples in the adverts of course — oh, back to Harry and Megan there, very neat!)

        Fred

           15 likes

        • G says:

          Fred,
          ” (so that’s not going to end well is it?)”. Another French underpass I fear…………..

             8 likes

    • Zelazek says:

      Three hours old and he’s already the Earl of Dumbarton. This boy will go far.

         27 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      The BBC will be leading the campaign for a change to the Law of Succession to ensure that the new child can become King or Queen (depending on how it self identifies). BBC editors: feel free to use the following words in your article:
      “Many people think Prince Charles would not make a suitable King, but suggest instead that a generation is skipped and Prince William becomes monarch when Queen Elizabeth II dies. But constitutional experts, who do not wish to be named, are now proposing a more radical change whereby any loosely related member of the Royal Family could become monarch. This would open the door for the new Baby Sussex to become King – a popular choice for the majority of people who believe the monarchy should reflect the diverse, inclusive country that Britain has always been at heart.”

         34 likes

    • TrueToo says:

      G.W.F.,

      I have no doubt the BBC is waiting with bated breath for the first sight of the tiny new royal arrival. Should the boy be as black or blacker than his mother, the BBC will ecstatic. Should he be less black or even approaching the colour of his father, this racist media outfit will find it hard to hide its disappointment.

         15 likes

  29. Guest Who says:

    The BBC has a new poll:

    ***

    As students around the world stage protests to demand action on climate change, a third of millennials say they’ve considered not having children because of global warming.

    Are children really the future? #CutThroughTheNoise

    ***

    They are aware that Greta will skweem and skweem and hold her breath until she turns green(er) if they use terminology like that?

       34 likes

  30. Guest Who says:

    Gav is shaping up as potent a force in support of Leave as Soubry, Adonis or O’Brien.

    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/gavin-esler-tv-news-must-stop-giving-airtime-to-the-village-idiots-of-brexit_uk_5cc5c36fe4b0fd8e35bda67d?

       24 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      Yes, Gavin Esler is till the voice, face and views of the BBC even though he’s left.

         24 likes

  31. Thoughtful says:

    The useless spineless Tories have apparantly dropped any attempt to prevent NHS health tourism because some leftists called the ‘waycist’. That’s £80 million of our money, and a longer wait for those who do pay when we come to need it.

    https://www.breitbart.com/europe/2019/05/06/uk-scraps-nhs-crackdown-racism-left/

       35 likes

  32. StewGreen says:

    Another pervy doctor
    Groomed and groped his female juniors
    Hindu name, I think

       17 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Maybe he got his degree from the university of google medicine – I did –

         18 likes

  33. Thoughtful says:

    You probably won’t hear much about this on the BBC until after the even, but, slightly before Halloween is the Canadian federal election when Canadians can finally rid themselves of the liberal elites poster boy Justin Trudeau.

    One of the issues I hear from Canadians is that they had no idea what he was going to do once in office because he never put any of the PC crap in the manifesto, yet did it anyway (sound familiar?). Of course Canada being run on similar lines to Britain has no constitution and non binding manifestos, which means they’re about as informative as a ream of printing paper (unopened!)

    Trudeau in some areas of Canada is 20 points behind in the polls, not helped by the SNC scandal which again has been largely unreported by the BBC, a lead which even Theresa May might win with (although it’s doubtful).

    If nothing else changes it would appear that Canada’s Conservatives will win a landslide majority, something the inept cockroaches this side of the pond might take note of, but the BBC is going to like this about as much as they ‘enjoyed’ Donald Trump’s victory.

       46 likes

  34. Absolute Shower says:

    Watching “The morning after” on Parliament at the moment after Mrs Thatcher’s election win 40 years ago. It’s funny to see how much things have changed since then. A couple of examples are that there are hardly any women amongst the BBC election team, and all the men are wearing collars and ties (except Robin Day with his bow tie!) Another thing I noticed is that if someone has that position they put “chairman” underneath whether it be a man or a woman, and not that hideous “chair”.

       34 likes

  35. taffman says:

    “Ministers spend extra £160m on Brexit consultant contracts”
    Plenty of money to waste . ‘Other’ peoples money .
    We should have left three years ago but for Mrs Chamberlain and her House of Comedian’s deliberate delay to allow the MSM and Al Beeb time to promulgate their pro Europe propaganda.
    Vote UKIP & The Brexit Party for Freedom and Independence .

       38 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      The beeboid esler wants even less public exposure of the public to those who disagree with his point of view .

      Try watching QT or Marr or any BBC output to to see and hear the pro remain out put . Don’t pay your TV tax

      Does any one have a better example of what beeboids really are and think . I don’t care whether he left the BBC -.once a traitor – always .

      Actually sounds like he has personal issues ..

         36 likes

      • Dover Sentry says:

        Esler has been with the BBC since the late 1970’s.

        Nobody should be employed by the BBC for more than a five year contract (not renewable).

        This would go some way to preventing the ‘hive mentality’ so prevalent today.

           32 likes

  36. jakita says:

    I had to laugh listening to the BBC news on the radio at teatime, the BBC at their deluded best.
    The lead article was how we are going to lose 1 million species on the planet due to supposed global warming.
    Then, with the next breath there was an article about how 30 ravers got hypothermia due to unexpected snow at a French techno festival. Snow, in Central France in May, WTF happened to global warming! Obviously there was no recognition of any irony in this by the BBC!!!

       38 likes

  37. chancygardner says:

    The beeb have been telling us that scientists are suggesting we are heading for a mass extinction event the like of which hasn’t been seen for 66 million years. No-one seems to question the likelihood of this. It’s all taken as a near certainty. Yet doesn’t it strike them as an uncanny coincidence that, just at the point we are able to quantify the number of declining species and climate changes occuring globally, we are now set for disaster? 66 million years of relative harmony then some bloke with a sixpence, a piece of string, a white coat and an internet connection turns up and boom..it’s Schwarzenegger time!

       29 likes

    • Celtic_Mist says:

      How would ‘BBC News at 10’ react to the Royal Baby and the latest UN Extinction Report? I had thought that the baby might scupper their plans to brainwash us with the extinction story. In the event they doubled down and only covered the baby story in the second segment. I should imagine that that will have generated some complaints from the general public who would be more interested in Megan.

      Later on at midnight on their 24 hr news channel they put the birth first and didn’t cover the extinction story at all? Am I to conclude that it is only the UK audience whom they are targeting with the environmental propaganda? This is a bit strange because theoretically they could reach a wider international audience and ‘educate’ them about how not to destroy the planet.

      My conclusion is that their propaganda campaign is purely political and aimed at potential voters in the UK. Talk about Russian fake news influencing US elections, well here we have our very own biased national news channel up to it’s neck in an activity that is prohibited under their charter.

      Or, perhaps I’m letting my imagination run away with me?

         34 likes

      • taffman says:

        Does Ofcom exist or did I dream of it?

           23 likes

        • Guest Who says:

          It does. But the diversity of staff based on previous employment is a thing of beauty.

             18 likes

  38. fakenewswatcher says:

    I became aware of a subtle bbc propagandist last night, called Sarah Dunant. She said we must be aware of fake histories. Then again, she was not so subtle…
    Her sources tended to be bigwigs at Unis, all ready with own (fake?) versions of history.
    She started off with the massacre in NZ. (Needless to say, there were no other massacares mentioned -forget Sri Lanka.) Apparantly Charles Martell was kinda invented and history around him distorted, the Moors hadn’t been invading; so Tours was a bit of a myth; gays were OK, since a mysterious find in an Egyptian tomb proved that there was such a tradition. Hindu Nationaists were right wing and anti-Muslim, and therefore bad.
    Blah, blah, on she went, imposing her own vesrsion of history for everything.
    Suddenly I rather like Mr Modi…

       34 likes

    • cromwell says:

      I heard that programme, nasty bad tempered woman. I have heard her before she spits out bile and her arguments are always one sided. She is loved by BBC, says all the right things.

         5 likes

  39. Halifax says:

    Not on the BBC as it’s a failing of a communist state but the SKY production of Chernobyl starts tonight and of course the female influence must be there as pivotal to the story line however don’t expect to see any BME even our biased MSM couldn’t conjure up that story line. But seriously I wonder how many women soldiers, scientists, fire fighters and air crew died trying to contain the radiation ?? I suspect none so another manipulation of history to support the current snowflake view that women are pivotal in all dramas.

       26 likes

    • RobRoy says:

      I was working for the old CEGB at the time of Chernobyl and remember it well. It’s a prime example of a poor design with numerous faults that the soviets neglected to mention to scientists and engineers. Add to that a pressured plant manager and a rushed test and.. bingo! you have the perfect storm.

      There were some incredible acts of bravery, some with the full knowledge it meant their deaths. The official death toll at the plant was 31. Estimates of the deaths in the year that followed due to radiation range from approx 100 up to 2,000 – not the mass numbers predicted by the doomsters. Many scientists dispute the higher estimates but, as we’re only too aware on this forum, there are those with their own agendas.

      Now here’s the interesting thing. In an interview with Emily Watson who plays the scientist (totally fictional made up of a number of real ones – yet none of the main players were female), the BBC guy stated a number of 4,000 deaths. And low and behold, Wikipedia that for the last few years went with the story 2,000 was the upper number (although many dispute that), suddenly states 4,000.

      Sadly, I fear this fascinating incident with acts of incredible bravery will no doubt become an anti-nuclear propaganda vehicle.

      Surprisingly, back in the day when the BBC weren’t run by eco-loons they made a really good docu-drama – you can see it on youtube at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v40hu54fAvw

         12 likes

  40. Guest Who says:

    Well, he’s back at the right place.

       32 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      I wonder what he leaves at the door of the studio now?

      http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/05/a-non-sarcastic-post.html

         15 likes

      • Dover Sentry says:

        Within that article, Esler brought this standard-issue phrase from the BBC store room when he left. Do the BBC know that he still has it? Should they be told?

        “”Some might say that…..””

           11 likes

      • G says:

        GW,
        “I wonder what he leaves at the door of the studio now?”
        The BBC studio, now a holy muslim place?
        His shoes.

           11 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      The supporters club doing their bit for Leave too. Just need to get Jezza and Simpo to weigh in as he is ‘special’’.

         9 likes

      • gaxvil says:

        Love to see an Esler – Farage debate.

           4 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Guest
        Oh Mr Snoddy – you know that line they always come out with “just one bad apple ‘ plenty of bad apples in theBBC. Snoddy is meant to be a professional – so how professional is he to be that out of touch …
        BBC pension speaking I suppose . Drain it.

           3 likes

  41. Guest Who says:

    The BBC seem to have found someone who is not Greta.

       16 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Who is not happy.

      Does she recall that Baby, Scary, Sporty and Ginger all used separate jets for a failed ‘charity’ gig not so long ago as they were having another cat fight?

         23 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        What the BBC cover, or do not, is down to a unique mix of ideology and ratings hunger, known as ‘editorial integrity’.

        Newswatch on Friday will be fun. They will likely address something anodyne that they got right anyway.

           22 likes

      • Celtic_Mist says:

        And she wrote that all by herself? Child exploitation more likely.

           9 likes

      • Old Goat says:

        1 mn spices – are they going extinct, too? What about the curries!!

           10 likes

      • gaxvil says:

        Maybe Lemmings have the right idea ?
        The only way to reduce the effects of human activity is to have less humans and decrease human activity.
        That means draconian birth control, scrapping the modern lifestyle and ‘assisted’ or even encouraging suicide.
        Modern medicine and famine relief programs together with preventing wars simply harm the planet Greta – over to you.

           12 likes

        • john in cheshire says:

          But according to that world famous philanthropist, Bill Gates – of the Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation, and presumably their fellow eugenicists – if they get their vaccination programme ‘ right ‘, they should be able to reduce the world population by about 10%.

          Now, that’s sinister. What are they injecting into people because I thought the purpose of vaccination programmes was to protect people, not kill them.

             9 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Lest there be any doubt on how this is playing out:

        http://news.trust.org//item/20190506144457-lnoe6/

        “Children May Be Their Parents’ Best Climate-Change Teachers, Scientists Find”

           9 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Lest there be any doubt on how this is playing out:

        http://news.trust.org//item/20190506144457-lnoe6/

        “Children May Be Their Parents’ Best Climate-Change Teachers, Scientists Find”

           0 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      99.9% of species that have lived on planet Earth have gone extinct. It’s called ‘evolution’, supplemented with the occasional large rock falling out of the sky or large volcanoes getting a bit grumpy. And human beings in any shape or form weren’t around for at least 99.9% of the time since life began.

         26 likes

      • gaxvil says:

        Children huh?
        But we are told that having children is the very worst thing we can do to harm the planet ?
        Honest, practical, sensible discussion is sadly missing from the debate.
        At the moment it’s just Corporal Jones but ‘PANIC!’ and panic some more.

           7 likes

    • Halifax says:

      In the UK alone the White, male, Christian, heterosexual is on the verge of extinction. This once proud animal was often seen on TV making people laugh or in furniture stores at weekend but alas no more they have been replaced by different strain a protected species introduced into the country. Whilst the white male has had little or no protection over the last 10 years it’s rivals have flourished taking over the roles it had established through 100 of thousands of years development. Much like the introduction of rabbits into Australia eventually the natural order will one day have to be restored only then can this once fertile and thriving green and pleasant land return to it’s productive and inventive best……..

         39 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      Paul H has commented:
      https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/05/07/nature-crisis-humans-threaten-1m-species-with-extinction-bbc/

      The BBC is so far gone pushing propaganda at kids and kids at propaganda it should be extinct.

         7 likes

  42. thirdoption says:

    “Rising knife crime linked to council cuts, study suggests”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-48176397

    Ha ha ha

       34 likes

    • Dover Sentry says:

      The rise is actually linked to the possession of knives in one hand (usually the right hand research has shown), whilst physically being in the street.

      Research into their ethnic origins is not relevant or helpful.

         33 likes

      • Ian Rushlow says:

        Dover… I think the correct phrase is:
        “The rise is actually linked to the possession of knives in one hand (usually the White right hand, BBC propaganda has shown), whilst physically being in the street.”

           25 likes

    • Beltane says:

      And yet the ‘savage cuts’ never seem to apply to the CEO’s remuneration, of any council, anywhere.

         12 likes

  43. Fedup2 says:

    The BBC is ‘leaking ‘ government propaganda about how the Customs Union is to be ‘temporality ‘ extended until the next general election in order to achieve a Labour/Tory stitch up on a sell out .

    A perfect piece of sophistry deluding every one into thinking it’s ok . It’s not – of course – because we won’t have left the EU . We ll still be subject to the ReichEU laws .

    Apparently it’s called ‘compromise ‘ – no it’s not – it treason .

       45 likes

  44. Kaiser says:

    https://www.westmonster.com/istanbul-mayoral-result-cancelled-election-re-run-after-pressure-from-erdogans-government/

    bloody hell eh imagine living in a tin pot dictatorship like that

       33 likes

    • gaxvil says:

      Thing is, although frustrating, we’ve had three years to get clued up on all kinds of Brexit and Parliamentary things.
      Things they might have slipped past us three years ago – we are now wise to. Thanks to their delay tactics we now have a far more educated electorate.

         20 likes

  45. vesnadog says:

    Not BBC but its clone – SKY, earlier today.

    They sent some reporter onto the streets of China asking the locals what they thought of the Internet and why China’s newest “app” already has 1 million subscribers?. Fine, that’s all well and good but the only comment sky went with; was, yes, you’ve guessed it:

    “we know about Brexit”

    Even in the wild and freezing backwoods of China the only person sky asked – and told the world about – was some old guy cooking on the street who when asked gave the answer as seen above.

       17 likes

  46. Fedup2 says:

    In the run up to when we left the ReichEU on 29 March there were frantic noises about ‘chaos’ and not being prepared – but now that the date has been extended where are the announcements about exact arrangements for us re leaving when A50 runs out again.?

    Do I just get the feeling that the civil service and politicians have cancelled brexit but not telling the pleb voters about it ? – because they are too thick to understand ?

       24 likes

    • gaxvil says:

      They’re getting to that point.:
      ‘We interviewed some dogs and asked, ‘ Brexit good? One bark,
      Brexit bad? Two barks.
      Most dogs barked at least twice – back to the studio’

         21 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Fed,

      “Do I just get the feeling that the civil service”

      I’m shocked! I’ve only just found out that PM Traitor does not attend the labour/traitor discussions but leaves all the talking to her civil servants and 2 cabinet ministers?

      Good grief!

      Talk about “corrupting absolutely!”

         14 likes

  47. Sluff says:

    And, after flying in to the UK and giving the Extinction Rebellion eco-trouble makers lots of well-publicised support, who should appear on the front cover full page of the Radio Times but………Emma Thompson !!!!!
    And inside on pages 10 and 11, double page, we get the headline ‘Emma Thompson for PM?’. The article then describes her as ‘environmental activist, feminist, atheist, pro-Palestinian’.

    Luckily for us , the BBC is totally impartial, so I am sure it is all a huge co-incidence.

       37 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      I wonder how many Beeboids flew out to catch the frock event in the US and… er… this…?:

         5 likes

      • countryblues says:

        OK! I give up…what does this all mean? 🙁

           5 likes

      • john in cheshire says:

        So, Sparkle Plenty is quite enthused by something called ‘ indigeneity ‘. Is that a word? I suppose it must be because Sparkle used it.

           6 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Sluff,

      “atheist, pro-Palestinian’”

      They nearly always make a ugly couple.

         10 likes

    • Demon says:

      Surely for all those things she is supposed to be it could have been summed up as “fascist”.

         2 likes

  48. gaxvil says:

    You might ask, ‘What planet are they on?’
    Sadly it’s this one.

       19 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Gax
      I’ve said here that we should use any weapon available to destroy the BBC .

      Perhaps all this froth about environment stuff could lead to a demand for the BBC to be carbon negative .
      How many miles traveled by car, air and stuff

      How many interviews that could be done on Skype and not sending a Kia royale Sweeney … ?

      Air con , lights on , pension fund non green investments –

      That stuff .

      ( for record I like the climate changing )

         17 likes