Weekend Open Thread 20 April 2019

I was going to call it the Easter Open Thread but this site is primarily about bearing witness to the bias of the Far Left BBC as opposed to specific religions [or none ]. Any way – there is a new line of attack for us . The BBC has whole heartedly swallowed all the human- activity-changing- climate stuff . You may agree or not .

But the point is – if the BBC wants to cut its ‘carbon fingerprint ‘ – is it doing it ? How many beeboids are sent to stand in front of events to talk at the camera when they’d do the same job sitting in a studio ? How much carbon is used and taxpayers’ cash spent ?

‘Does this evil organisation practice what it now preaches ? Perhaps every programme should have its carbon footprint published – the number of air miles and car miles – and programme cost -for starters .

Happy Easter .

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470 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 20 April 2019

  1. Thoughtful says:

    First ?

    Happy Easter !

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    • StewGreen says:

      Backlinks to previous thread
      I know that you are all at your villas in Tuscany like BBC staff
      but you can catch up with earlier posts from Thursday night
      on
      page 3
      page 4

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Thanks as always Stew – we must not lose the value of previous comments as another ‘page’ is turned eh?

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      • StewGreen says:

        oh Friday was end of page 3 and page 4 until 1pm

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Fed, you ask this in your header above: “But the point is – if the BBC wants to cut its ‘carbon fingerprint ‘ – is it doing it ?”

      The answer is no.

      The BBC is pushing for digital radio. IIRC, there is a saving in energy for the actual broadcast but the receivers are horribly inefficient compared to a conventional receiver. They used to require 20x more power. I think that has improved but it is still much more energy intensive that FM/AM/LW/MW/SW broadcasting.

      On digital TV, I gather it is the other way round. The broadcasts take more power but the saving is in the viewers home. Unless of course, they keep getting pestered by the Licence Police in a fossil-fuel burning vehicle.

      All that overlooks the extra carbon emissions in manufacture (usually on the other side of the globe) of new sets and screens, their transport, purchase and installation and the disposal of the obsolete hardware. All that, apparently, [sarcasm alert] cannot possibly count toward world CO2 emissions.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2
        I suppose the amount of energy the BBC uses is in the accounts somewhere – not including the overseas element and the big outside broadcasts .

        If the BBC is a believer that mankind is destroying the planet – then the BBC should account for itself don’t you think ?

        I only push the issue as a weapon to use against the ‘ evil aunty’ . Personally I go for the ‘lovelock ‘ approach that if we abuse the planet it will abuse us back…

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Fed “Personally I go for the ‘lovelock ‘ (as in James Lovelock?) approach that if we abuse the planet it will abuse us back…”

          I would tend to agree with that but I also think that nature is far more adaptable than we now give it credit for. Once upon a time, humans were adaptable, too. Things like carbon resources aka fossil fuels are there for us to use and benefit from.

          I have to make a confession here: I’m a bit of an environment conservative and conservationist. Sort of a ‘greenie’ but not a gullible greenie. I would distance myself a million miles from Extinction Rebellion and other nonsense that comes from most environmentalists. When it comes to waste, I’m with the Germans as a whole. Let’s do this properly and in order.

          So one of the things that makes me hopping mad is plastic pollution. Not from the way that Attenborough and the Beeb see it and foolishly broadcast it. (Did I hear correctly that there was a substantial fall in recycling in the UK since that programme hit the airwaves?)

          We pay heavily in the UK to have our waste removed. We entered into good faith contracts with our Local Authorities (LAs) and national Government (nG) that engaging in recycling would have a beneficial effect. We now find that the good faith contracts with LAs and nG and their subcontractors appear not to have been honoured. At all. In addition, the sub-contractors work has not been properly overseen by LAs and nG. At all.

          Anybody our there wanting to sue? I do but am not wealthy enough to do it.

          What is worse, we are now going to be forced to pay extra (with the additional damage that inflation does to our economy and the poor and mid-paid) because of the failure by nG, LAs and their sub-contractors and their clients overseas who have just dumped stuff they could not be bothered to deal with or that was surplus to production.

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          • Up2snuff says:

            I HAVE BEEN SABOTAGED AGAIN!

            Fed “Personally I go for the ‘lovelock ‘ (as in James Lovelock?) approach that if we abuse the planet it will abuse us back…”

            I would tend to agree with that but I also think that nature is far more adaptable than we now give it credit for. Once upon a time, humans were adaptable, too. Things like carbon resources aka fossil fuels are there for us to use and benefit from.

            I have to make a confession here: I’m a bit of an environment conservative and conservationist. Sort of a ‘greenie’ but not a gullible greenie. I would distance myself a million miles from Extinction Rebellion and other nonsense that comes from most environmentalists. When it comes to waste, I’m with the Germans as a whole. Let’s do this properly and in order.

            So one of the things that makes me hopping mad is plastic pollution. Not from the way that Attenborough and the Beeb see it and foolishly broadcast it. (Did I hear correctly that there was a substantial fall in recycling in the UK since that programme hit the airwaves?)

            We pay heavily in the UK to have our waste removed. We entered into good faith contracts with our Local Authorities (LAs) and national Government (nG) that engaging in recycling would have a beneficial effect. We now find that the good faith contracts with LAs and nG and their subcontractors appear not to have been honoured. At all. In addition, the sub-contractors work has not been properly overseen by LAs and nG. At all.

            Anybody our there wanting to sue? I do but am not wealthy enough to do it.

            What is worse, we are now going to be forced to pay extra (with the additional damage that inflation does to our economy and the poor and mid-paid) because of the failure by nG, LAs and their sub-contractors and their clients overseas who have just dumped stuff they could not be bothered to deal with or that was surplus to production.

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            You can no longer edit this comment.

            PLEASE DISREGARD EVERYTHING ABOVE incl post at 9.57am. THE POST BELOW IS HOW I WISH IT TO APPEAR, SUBJECT TO CHANGE UNTIL A FULL FIFTEEN MINUTES OF EDITING TIME HAVE ELAPSED

            Fed “Personally I go for the ‘lovelock ‘ (as in James Lovelock?) approach that if we abuse the planet it will abuse us back…”

            I like Lovelock in general but do not go along with his (pagan) Gaia theory. I believe in creation and a Creator and that our biosphere is here to sustain and provide for us until the end of time.

            That does not mean we should abuse it. Of course not.

            I also think that nature is far more adaptable than we now give it credit for. Once upon a time, humans were adaptable, too. Things like carbon resources aka fossil fuels, are there for us to use and benefit from.

            I have to make a confession here: I’m a bit of an environment conservative and conservationist. Sort of a ‘greenie’ but not a gullible greenie nor a deceiving environmentalist.

            I would distance myself a million miles from Extinction Rebellion and other nonsense that comes from most environmentalists. When it comes to waste, I’m with the Germans as a whole. Let’s do this properly and in order.

            So one of the things that makes me hopping mad is plastic pollution. Not from the way that Attenborough and the Beeb see it and foolishly broadcast it and promote it. (Did I hear correctly that there was a substantial fall in recycling in the UK since that programme hit the airwaves? ie. A significant number in the UK have said “Why bother if it’s going to be chucked in the sea out East?”)

            We pay heavily in the UK to have our waste removed. We entered into good faith contracts with our Local Authorities (LAs) and national Government (nG) that engaging in recycling would have a beneficial effect. We now find that the good faith contracts with LAs and nG and their subcontractors appear not to have been honoured. At all. In addition, the sub-contractors work has not been properly overseen by LAs and nG. At all.

            Anybody our there wanting to sue? I do but am not wealthy enough to do it.

            What is worse, we are now going to be forced to pay extra (with the additional damage that inflation does to our economy and the poor and mid-paid) because of the failure by nG, LAs and their sub-contractors and their clients overseas who have just dumped stuff they could not be bothered to deal with or that was surplus to production.

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Up2
              You and your editing . I don’t take the pagan element of what lovelock says – in that the planet is ‘alive ‘ so it doesn’t affect my belief in God .

              I agree that technology will deal with problems as they arise . We are pretty clever when up against it – especially if cash is involved .
              I believe in conserving energy resources if only to weaken fundamentalist Islam – which I think Mr Trump will have a look at in the second term .

              I’ve often wondered if domestic recycling actually achieves anything ? Can us actually be done ?

              But that’s environment stuff and my little idea about holding the BBC to account on its own environmental message seems a good weapon to use against it .

              The weakness is that they’ll want more licence money to administer it .

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              • Up2snuff says:

                Fed, “You and your editing .” 🙂 You and your phat phingering on that ol’ touchscreen o’yourn! 😉

                I deliberately waited until 1min of edit time had gone. I was up near top of page. I now wonder, because I mentioned Lovelock and Attenborough (name-checked them) whether someone has hacked this site and uses certain names as part of their search algorithms? One way of keeping ‘an eye’ on us? That’s one for the B-BBC computer geeks to go after.

                Domestic recycling? Yes, it does work. I wouldn’t be surprised if fleeces that I have bought or been given in the ‘noughties and tens’ were in part my used drinks bottles in the last two decades of the 20th century. We use composite boards now for many activities – they often come from recycled or waste timber from other processes. Paper recycling works, too. Am all in favour.

                I use stuff creatively and ordinarily. I almost never buy bottled water and just re-fill fruit juice drink or other water bottles that have been washed taken from a safe, known source. Bird scarers can be made out of old useless ISP CDs. Other commercial packaging gets put to second or third uses.

                As to the BBC, yes please do go after them on digital & the power required and CO2 expended. I have. If more viewers and listeners do then maybe they will ‘get an overdose of their own medicine’ and richly deserved it will be.

                Happy Easter.

                And feel free to delete the excess above the line above at some point. Just to keep things tidy. 😉

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      • tarien says:

        The BBC continue to fly their journalists, correspondent operators all over the world, goodness knows how much carbon emissions that blows out. Such as these ill advised, mixed with opportunists Climate Change people-as apparently one well known woman has flown god only knows how many miles to support some section or other Climate Change group-just think of the Carbon emissions it will take to get her to wherever it is she is going! Bonkers-the real problem for this world is Pollution, which is the one factor that is causing problems, not Climate Change perse which has been going on for trillions of years.

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  2. Fedup2 says:

    Thoughtful
    Well done – I thought i d catch a few people out on the timing and no doubt there will be a few moans – but it is a long weekend for some so that’s my excuse .

    As for my comment in the preamble – I have no time for the political human climate change ‘absolutists’ ( I wanted to say fascist but I think the term might be inaccurate ).

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    • Luckyharry69 says:

      @Fed
      All the best Easter wishes to you and your family and closest.Thanks again for what you do on this site
      Harry

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Harry
        Thank you and Happy Easter to you and yours too..

        We have a long but winnable fight …

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  3. Guest Who says:

    So, Emma Thompson, Sir Boaty, George Monbiot, Rog and Shucks on the panel, and….

    Rob Burley will have to get a few more false flag posts to ‘deal’ with.

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    • Guest Who says:

      They do seem to be operating serious ‘editorial integrity’ for a BBC protected species.

      http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/04/dame-emma-jets-in-to-save-planet.html

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      • gaxvil says:

        Emma Thompson flew from LA – some 5,449 miles to be there.
        Where’s Meldrew ? – “I don’t belieeeeeve it ! ”

        I think we really have had enough of mega rich toss-pots ie: Bono, Branson, Thompson telling us little people how to live our miserable lives so long as we keep buying their stuff. Heck, it’s like being lectured by the bbc – do as we say believe what we tell you but keep paying us.

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        • Cassandra says:

          Anyone remember when Bono forgot his favourite Stetson in the USA, so he had it flown over to him on a first class seat ,especially reserved for it, to Ireland (top mark’s to the person who knows the Bono joke with the punchline, “…well stop ‘bleep bleep’ clapping then”.
          Or there was that time about thirty years ago when Sting was dragging his pal (with the huge wooden disc stretching his bottom lip) from the Amazonian rain forest around all the big British television chat shows like BBC’s Wogan, telling all and sundry that we were all killing the planet? If you switched over to ITV around the same time, there was Sting being driven across a desert doing a commercial for Jaguar in one of their fuel guzzling 3 Litre cars.

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        • tarien says:

          gaxvil- what was her carbon footprint over that journey? I would not be surprised if she were not a climate change irritator.

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      • NCBBC says:

        There is some controversy what has caused the deaths of fruit bats and a walrus herd(?), and increase in number of storms and tornadoes. The BBC insist it is Climate Change

        Attenborough’s “Climate Change–The Facts

        https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/04/19/attenboroughs-climate-change-the-facts/

        I personally believe Global Warming is caused by Brexit. Its no coincidence that Global Warming started soon after we joined the EEC, which then set the Brexit ball rolling.

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        • Rick Bradford says:

          I understand there is so much spurious science in that doco that it is possible that the title will be changed to “Climate — Change The Facts”

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  4. StewGreen says:

    Live now on Radio 4
    BiasedBBC & XR continue their joint PR for kids climate demo
    .. they’re doing live Coverage of a Emma Air-Miles Thompson stunt
    #GreensGoByAir

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  5. Oldspeaker says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47985469

    “The Police Service of Northern Ireland (PSNI) said the New IRA “are likely to be the ones behind this””
    “”are likely to be the ones behind this””?
    What happened to the we don’t want any speculation line concerning suspected terrorism? At the very least a very inconsistent approach by both the bbc and PSNI.

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    • NCBBC says:

      At the least, the police should have stated that “This has nothing to do with Brexit”.

      The BBC suffer from Brexitphobia.

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  6. Fedup2 says:

    How long will it be before Soros /BBC link this killing to Brexit ?

    Or will they continue to not mention the over throw of democracy … ?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Breakfast R4 News, Toady, Lunchtime R4 news, Mardell on TWatO. He completely ignored what a contributor said and attributed it to Brexit.

      Eliza Manningham-Buller (interview with the Montacutie on TWatO sometime ago) on the GFA keeping the peace on both sides of the border in Ireland for 21 years: “Oh, that never worked.”

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  7. theisland says:

    Happy Easter everyone.

    Please watch this (20 mins)

    European Defence Union

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    • NCBBC says:

      the island

      Thanks for this very useful link.

      I wonder if the USA is aware of this. “Five eyes” most certainly will be.

      The question that arises, is NATO and America OK with the idea that the UK will be a member of the EU army, if we stay in the EU? Why? Is it because Britain will, for Five Eyes, be able to keep an eye from the inside, on the German lead EU army?

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  8. StewGreen says:

    Bubbleworld : Libmob think journalists are #MoreThanEqual

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    • StewGreen says:

      The surreal NBC tweet Gavin Estler was replying to

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  9. pugnazious says:

    The journalist Lyra McKee was shot and killed by people that the BBC/Irish government/EU have decided are the legitimate and deciding voice on what happens with Brexit. The terrorist group called The IRA.

    The BBC/Irish government/EU used the threat of the IRA to stop Brexit, joining forces with murderous terrorists to overturn democracy in this country.

    And they have the gall to call Jacob Ress-Mogg a Nazi!

    Indeed they did just that yesterday on WATO as the BBC tried to link JRM to a ‘supporters group’ that has absolutely nothing to do with hm persoanlly…he didn’t set it up, has nothing to do with running it and knows nobody from it…and yet the BBC insisted that because they support him he must take responsibility for any views expressed on the site.. ‘posted in his name’…apparently Jacob ‘You must take some responsibility for the anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant views’

    JRM needs to b ‘more clever in his commentss as language has gone too far’

    This from the BBC that happily labels JRM and his ilk as nazis and far-right and continually warns us about Europe falling under the spell of the far-right…as evidenced by the rise of ‘populism’…Brexit and all that…yes, Brexit is a far-right plot…didn’t you know that? You want to listen to the BBC more often.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Pug, IIRC, this violence was incited by John Major and Tony Blair in a visit to NI about a week before the EU Referendum.

      They should be arrested and interrogated by the PSNI, charged and put on trial.

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      • Oldspeaker says:

        In answer to gumball, I think the original presentation was from 1996, with current levels of mass people movement/social engineering I think it’s more relevant than ever. None of the proponents of such activity ever stop to consider those that are as Roy Beck says, too poor, too disconnected, or too sick to ever hope of moving to another country. Instead we entice their doctors and other professionals away from where they are most needed, then wring hands at the lack of medical care in such places.

        This won’t make much sense to the casual browser, it’s a reply from previous thread.

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        • Eddy Booth says:

          But I thought the LGBT condition made it’s activists bullet proof?
          Oh well , if it had to happen to somebody…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Pug
      I don’t get it – why are the police going after the terrorists who shot a journo? I mean – charge – trial – conviction – fget out of jail
      Free card – compensation .

      But is a soldier shoots said terrorist – it’s the full investigation and charge – even after 40 years . Why bother .

      I know this is harsh – but journo had a choice about being at a riot whereas the coppers had to be there . This time they lived ..

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  10. dazzer says:

    Some good news from China.

    Of course, the Muslims are playing the pity card, but neglect to mention their failed attempt to break away from China since the 1990s and implement Sharia law. That coupled with the highest rate of terrorist attacks in the country have forced the government to stamp down on their radicalism.

    Many Chinese on Reddit have compared it to the Jews of pre-WW2 era except in this case it is different as the Germans become progressively worse towards the Jews the more they were attacked by the Jews of the UK and USA. In this instance, there is no world power Islamic state to wage war on China for their actions.

    Whilst I don’t agree with the Chinese on all matters, I do admire how they don’t fall for any Western ‘equality’ nonsense. The Chinese hate everyone not Chinese. They hate blacks the most, followed by Arabs, followed by whites.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Aw Diddums

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    • tarien says:

      Agree Dazzer, so why do we here in the UK buy so much rubbish in most cases, from them? The UK is perfectly capable of manufacturing everything needed- yet we support/trade with a nation that uses slave labour in most cases to produce its wares-just imagine the carbon foor print of the number of massive container ships sent from China to the UK and Europe-that’s where these Climate Change angry people aught to be concentrating their anger-go bloke the Chinese Embassy.

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  11. StewGreen says:

    Next Tuesday prog asks “Where are all the black fashion designers ?”
    .. the other week it was black ballet dancers (2 progs)
    and Women Grime artists

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  12. vlad says:

    Arrests after more vibrant enrichment, this time in Stoke Newington.

    It barely even makes it to bbc ‘Regions’ anymore it’s so frequent.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47982896

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  13. vesnadog says:

    fed,

    “‘Does this evil organisation practice what it now preaches ? Perhaps every programme should have its carbon footprint published”

    I dread to think how much earths resources Mr BBC himself Garry Lineker uses when he and his other 9-15 BBC footbal pundits go to their hotels after every game. Can you imagine the bar-bill? Can you imagine how much cash they use from our licence fee to pay for their 5 star taxis, 5 star hotels, five star food, the most expensive hair dressers in town, their daily mistaken walks down the local red light districts. their private jets too and from said Brazilian world cup, Euros, friendlies in Australia, NZ, US etc…

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  14. Cassandra says:

    [Sorry, Cassandra, inappropriate.]
    (Sorry Stew, I just couldn’t let that one pass.)

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  15. gaxvil says:

    FFS I was going to say it but she bet me to it, “I want the Police to know that Nanny Mc Phee (the childrens’ fantasy story character) is here.” Highly appropriate really.

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  16. Doublethinker says:

    I hope that Trump bans the BBC from his press conferences. It wouldn’t make them any more biased against him than they already are and it would be great fun to watch them squealing.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    Bbc wheeling this clown out again. And the blonde bird.

    ***

    The Today Programme.

    “If democracy is not being honoured, then people have the right to mass disruption.”

    “Extinction Rebellion co-founder Gail Bradbrook calls on people to “take time of work and join us… have fun rebelling”.

    ****

    Nick clearly smitten.

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  18. vlad says:

    Well done echo-warriors, by disrupting work and holiday travel plans for millions, you’ve just lost the support of the nation.
    Own goal.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      These infantile ignoramuses would benefit from watching this video. Unfortunately, it’s about an hour long so their gnat brain attention span means they could never sit still for that long, unless they are super-glued to Jeremy Corbyn’s fence. But this is a man, with a sense of humour, who can debunk the fake climate change, Al Gore, Michael Mann, propaganda:

      Who is reminding us of the University of East Anglia Climate Research Unit fakery and Climategate emails? It’s about 10 years or so ago but the liars just keep spouting their lies, fully expecting us to forget the exposure of their lies and to accept them again just because the lying press, far-left bbc collective, LBC knownothings et al flood the airwaves with this low grade propaganda.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        j-i-c, thanks for putting that up.

        Steven Hayward comes up with some killer points but I guess is not the easiest to listen to. I sense there is an immense brain in that dome of a skull of his and it is constantly processing data, hence the back tracks & hesitations.

        It is well worth sitting for an hour and minute and listening to this video just for the increasing knowledge that he will bring to what, sadly, has become a very non-nuanced debate and is edging toward mob rule and violence.

        And did I spot James Lovelock sitting in the front row?

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    • vlad says:

      Oops, typo, I meant eco warriors, but ‘echo’ works too, as in chamber.

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    • Rick Bradford says:

      I think you meant eco-warriors, but the emendation is quite apt, as these people exist in an SJW echo chamber, unaware that everybody else is sick to death of their smug, morally superior, arrogant, hectoring and resentful tone.

      [Edit: I didn’t see your follow-up before I posted]

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  19. Sir_Arthur_Strebe-Grebling says:

    Just in case you wondered why the bBBC is going over the top about shot Belfast journalist Lyra McKee, leading news story and special feature items:

    John O’Doherty, the director of the Rainbow Project, described her as “a hero to many in the LGBT community”.

    “We have been reading about the huge impact Lyra had on so many within Northern Ireland’s LGBT community, including supporting people in coming out and using her own coming out story to empower others to live as their most authentic selves.”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-47987807

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  20. Guest Who says:

    Ash gunning for tenure on QT.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      I wish these people would go back to their ancestral homelands and spout their commie crap there and see how long they last.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Ash is on tonight 9pm BBC1 Have I got News For You
      Talk about a #Bubbleworld

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  21. Guest Who says:

    BBC TV Show Casting

    Sponsored

    The BBC is making a new show. Contact us if you’re being ‘romance scammed’ or have a story to tell.

    ***

    Envy of the world.

    Oh, and #CCBGB

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    • StewGreen says:

      I have found the post
      but there’s no blue tick to confirm it’s an official BBC page
      ..a bit odd considering the prog is about people getting scammed.

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    • vesnadog says:

      G,

      “if you’re being ‘romance scammed’ ”

      Another gay BBC producer using every opportunity he has to spend his personal stash of licence payers money to promote LGBTs issues. When the BBC say “romance” they don’t mean the sort we teens dreamed of when we were teens rather the kind of romance that you see when and if you foolishly pop into any local gents toilet.

      But they want to bring the toilet into our living rooms in the vicinity of children (male children).

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  22. Thoughtful says:

    I wonder if others have noticed the way the BBC appear to take the stance of ‘Nothing to do with us, we’re just accurately impartially reporting the news’ when ever a position they have clearly been supporting turns out to be completely wrong.

    You can imagine the way the BBC would report anthropogenic climate change being proved positive that it didn’t exist – the BBC would shrug their corporate shoulders and pretend they never took a biased position at all.

    They do this every time, just recalled it over the Trump reporting.

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  23. Guest Who says:

    Another defensive, Burleyesque ‘Look, how much more support can we send your way?!’ Tweet from Rog.

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    • jazznick1 says:

      GW
      I had the unfortunate experience of listening to Harrabin this morning on Toady, as I couldn’t reach the off button fast enough. He was explaining that to meet the ER demands people will need to make sacrifices including throwing out their gas boilers and replacing them with… ? ….and selling their fossil fuelled cars !!!!!!! WTF ???

      WHO are they going to sell them to ? – you and your kind are making them worthless – I screamed.
      How are all the hundreds of crushing plants going to be powered as all the cars in the country get trashed.
      What about the pollution/waste from that ?

      Even ‘tourettes’ had to admit this would be a ‘politically brave position to take’ (as Sir Humphrey Appleby might have said)

      The man is a blatant activist nutter – just give him one BBC slot a week to himself – AND NOWHERE ELSE on ANY news programme.

      “Harrabin’s Half Hour” at around 3.30pm

      I can then go off and have a cup of tea in the sure knowledge that I won’t have to listen to this infuriating moron any more.

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      • JimS says:

        They could put the old cars on hillsides for Monbiot’s wolves to live in and the gas boilers could be dumped on top of The Great Barrier Reef to protect the coral from bleaching.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Again, per Alinsky, XR are using pure emotion and suppressing fact.

        So far, so unsurprising.

        But the media are going along with it.

        Does not one of these clever journalists ever think to ask how ‘only essential’ plane or 4×4 journeys will be possible with manufacturers and or airlines with thousands of employees restricted to making six a year?

        I really hope that every supportive luvvie is put under the spotlight for the car they drive and when they hit the airport.

        Suspect this is why a devious slug like Bolt-on is worried. I don’t see him taking the 444 to Cheltenham to take the waters to shed a few pounds.

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  24. Not Gwent says:

    News Front Page
    “Sir David Attenborough’s new BBC documentary on climate change has been praised by TV critics.”

    There’s nothing like self promotion. Even the TV show supporting the campaign isn’t allowed a dissenting voice.

    What is balance where a bandwagon is concerned?

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  25. Roland Deschain says:

    You can see what their game is now. Pretend that what the BBC was reporting all along was Russian interference in the election, not that Trump was colluding with them. Oh, no. Not us. No sirree.

    I doubt there’s been a single US election in 50 years that the Russians haven’t tried to meddle in, but only one matters to the BBC and wider media.

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    • StewGreen says:

      #StatementAsAQuestion a #PRtrick

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    • Van Helsing says:

      Here’s a better question for Nick: does the BBC believe in democracy? If so, why has the Corporation and its so-called journalists taken every opportunity (and invented ones when none existed) to show the utmost disdain for the 17.4 million people in the UK who voted for Brexit? Or don’t the views of the majority matter?

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  26. john in cheshire says:

    If satire wasn’t dead in our country, Mr Harrabin, Boaty McBoatface Attenborough and the rest of the alarmists would be a very deep well of material to keep us entertained.

    But real comedians are kept off the airwaves. That’s comedy’s loss. I wish it was the far-left bbc collective’s monetary loss.

    The far-left bbc collective is just our version of Judas. Remind me, how did Judas end his days and where did he go to on his death?

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  27. Guest Who says:

    Looks like the bbc has decided everyone has forgotten 28Gate.

       27 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      Extinction types aren’t going to vote for May regardless of what she puts in the Queen’s Speech.

         17 likes

  28. Richard Pinder says:

    Climate Change was really Global Warming: The Facts where really make believe Assumptions. The BBC cherry picks extreme weather events and props up scientific fraud such as talking to the Mann who produced the fraudulent “Hockey Stick” and using the NOAA/NASA doctored temperature data, used to help Obama eliminate the Pause/Hiatus/Peak in time for the Paris Conference. https://principia-scientific.org/how-noaa-nasa-doctored-temperature-data-to-get-record-warm-years

    Other top scientists included scientifically unqualified children and that ex-BBC ecoloon Richard Black producing FEAR. As well as that awful man and others who work with Peter Cox at the University of Exeter producing all those silly computer models. James (Boiling Oceans) Hanson ,who left NASA to become a full time ecoloon, lots of female environmental activists and some people benefiting from the subsidies for technology side of the Climate scam.

    But I didn’t spot a single Atmospheric Physicist, Meteorologist or Solar Astronomer saying whether it was false or not. The only intelligent scientific thing said in the whole program was when Donald Trump said it was a “Hoax”

    At the end, a small child and David Attenborough demanded that all ecoloons should rebel and rise up against the plebs in a call to arms against Western Civilisation and all white people in general, but not the EU.

    The BBC Climate propaganda documentary urged all viewers to support Extinction Rebellion in its revolution. “Up the Revolution”

       43 likes

    • john in cheshire says:

      These feeble minded entities have no idea what are the consequences of revolution.

      I pray we can regain our national sanity without recourse to insurrection because as our three, yes three civil wars and the American civil war can confirm, once a civil war starts, there’s no knowing where it will end and how many innocents will die.

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      • Dave S says:

        The extinction bunch have already made serious errors in carrying out their insurgency. First off they make impossible demands instead of reasonable ones which they can then escalate . This is dumb. Then they back themselves into a corner where they have to escalate further to keep momentum. So they threaten to shut Heathrow. Now even in war there are rules written and unwritten because that is the way humans have to behave to avoid complete meltdown .
        I have no doubt that their leaders were told that closing Heathrow would mean the riot police going in all over London. These demonstrators are little boys and girls and that would be terrifying for them. Next the authorities seem to be playing it OK. The aim must be to get them to back off and disperse peacefully. The crunch will come if they refuse or rather their leaders do. It has to be ended one way or another and these kiddies are not the types to go all out for a real confrontation . That is reserved for real revolutionaries determind to take over the state.
        They have achieved publicity and got people talking. Time to go home. Problem is they are fired up ,overestimate their power and are losing the public daily. .This is why I think the authorities are treading carefully. Let us hope it ends peacefully.

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        • Helen Richardson says:

          “They have achieved publicity and got people talking.”

          But not in the way they intended, as far as I can see. Most of the talk I have heard has been along the lines of:

          Middle class hypocrites!
          Don’t they have jobs?
          Why aren’t the police doing something?
          Let them take their chances with the traffic.
          What about population growth?
          Why don’t they protest in China, India etc?
          A few spots of rain and they’ll be gone.
          12 years? Heard it all before.
          What happened to acid rain?
          Why can’t I take “direct action” against them?
          Can they be sued?
          And finally: “That McPhee woman again”.

          No support in the circles I move in, with one drippy exception.

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        • vesnadog says:

          Dave,

          “. Let us hope it ends peacefully”

          Can’t see it with children on the front line.

          Imagine the outrage if and when a child is badly hurt.

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          • Guest Who says:

            Me either.

            A lot of impressionable, malleable minds being subjected to indoctrination by old buggers in pony tails. Plus some women.

            Things seem to be stalling.

            ‘Dr’ Bateman’s Alinsky #101 training video has a section on past protests that worked, including certain monks in Vietnam.

            She thinks it is all ‘great fun’.

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    • G says:

      Richard P,
      My very simple approach to whatever the BBC, or anybody else like to call, ‘Climate Change’, asks one question: why have we not been presented with programmes consisting of debate between, Real Experts?
      Lying by omission is the BBC’s prize approach. That’s why it calls itself, “The World’s Most Trusted Broadcaster”………………
      ‘Climate Change’, is all to do with a strand of cultural Marxism and fragmenting the Worlds population.

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  29. pugnazious says:

    Just had time to look at the video JRM tweeted and was roundly condemned for…

    You can see the problem…not the fact that it is the AFD but that it is a total and completely accurate take down of the EU and Berlin’s attitude towards Britain and Brexit….Barnier saying he would be ‘brutal’ towards Britain so as not to encourage anyone else who might fancy jumping from the Titanic.

    Any wonder the AFD said this and JRM passed it on…

    ‘‘Is it any wonder the British see bad faith behind every manoeuvre from Brussels?’’

    [Have to say impressed by Alice Weidel….clear, determined and not cowed by the liberal tyranny…if only we had someone like her in charge!]

    You have to laugh at the racist Lammy, in a party beset by anti-semitism, as he says…

    ‘The Labour MP David Lammy said Rees-Mogg was “promoting Germany’s overtly racist party”.

    He tweeted: “Our country’s proudest moment was defeating the far right. Now we are supposed to sit back while xenophobes, nativists, nationalists and isolationists do their best to tear Europe apart again. We must not let them win.”’

    Hitler killed 6 million Jews amongst many others, Corbyn’s Labour Party, of which Lammy is an MP, spreads the poison of anti-semitism and supports those who would literally wipe out the Jews and yet it is JRM who is a Nazi?

    The BBC supports the Lammy narrative.

    And why are the AFD -Far-Right’ and ‘Nazi’ because they oppose Islamisation of Germany? When you look at countries ruled by Islam you can see why they have serious concerns that such an ideology should be allowed to flourish and embed itself in Germany. The AFD has legitimate concerns about what is an ideology that is radically opposed to Western values, beliefs, culture and society….an ideology far, far closer to Nazism than anything the AFD or even JRM have ever said.

       59 likes

    • Zelazek says:

      Pug,
      I too find Alice Weidel an impressive politician. Strong, courageous, articulate and charismatic, she is emerging as an inspirational figure and champion not just for traditionally-minded Germans but for European civilisation generally.

         42 likes

      • vlad says:

        “Strong, courageous, articulate and charismatic”… and HOT!

        I can see her on a horse, whip in hand, having a go at the hunt saboteurs…

        But I’m getting carried away.

           24 likes

    • Doublethinker says:

      I must say that hearing the politicians of the FN in France, AfD in Germany , Salvini in Italy Orban , Kurtz etc, does cheer me up no end. I’m sure that we must refuse May’s awful deal, which is in effect staying with no voting rights,, and hence little power to help those above who want root and branch reform of the EU . Either we leave cleanly or we stay , join forces with Salvini et al and help dismantle the EU from inside and take it back to a free trade block of independent sovereign states.

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  30. StewGreen says:

    9pm Radio4 a repeat of How to be a Better Activist
    What with Tommy Robinson and James Goddard ?
    Nope
    Blurb “Co-founder of the global Occupy protests, Micah White, explains how the failure of his movement showed him how activism needs to be redefined.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b08lfbh9

    Here’s a recent impartial tweet from the programme maker
    Calling for a Corbyn Remainer government

       25 likes

    • pugnazious says:

      Was that the anti-capitalist Occupy protests that were promoted by Russia in an attempt to undermine western economies and sow discontent and anger? Odd the BBC doesn’t make much noise about that fact but is still trying to declare Trump guilty of colluding with Russia despite Mueller.

         22 likes

      • Ian Rushlow says:

        No, that was the Occupy movement started by a Canadian NGO called Adbusters. Which was financed by the Tides Foundation. And the Tides Foundation funders include the Ford Foundation, the Gates Foundation and the Open Society Institute (Soros). Then you’ve got contributors like Robert Halper. Or support from the Movement Resource Group, which included Ben Cohen, Jerry Greenfield, Danny Goldberg and Norman Lear.

        Yeah, really anti-capitalist. But you can understand the BBC not wanting to highlight that an ‘anti-capitalist’ movement was financed by billionaires. Unwashed students and ageing hippies wouldn’t turn up for that, would they?

           21 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      That’s definite then – Labour are now Remain?

      (Zoe Williams tweet)

         19 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      It is amazing if no surprise that no media or pols apparently read the XR website or followed its links to see them following Alinsky to the letter.

      The manipulation of the media has been almost 100% per advice. And worked.

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  31. TrueToo says:

    Hmmm, I see that the BBC has responded to complaints that Fiona Bruce made the unforgiveable error of contradicting a Labour MP (and black to boot) on Question Time:

    Miss Abbott insisted that her party and the Tories were ‘level-pegging’, but host Miss Bruce said: ‘You’re behind Diane… definitely.’

    The two parties had been neck-and-neck in polls, with Labour ahead in some surveys while another had showed the Tories with a lead of five points.

    Miss Bruce had tried to draw a line under the row the week after the broadcast, telling viewers that she ‘should have made the context clear’ and was happy to do so.

    Yesterday, the BBC’s complaints unit ordered the Corporation to issue a correction, which said: ‘Miss Abbott was right to describe the overall situation as “kind of level pegging”, and we should not have described Labour as “definitely” behind on the basis of a single poll.’

    The BBC has an Editorial Complaints Unit? Who knew.

    It took the ECU only a matter of months to respond to the Diane Abbott complaint and uphold it, sort of. It takes years for a genuine response to similar complaints from the political centre or right and upholding such complaints is as rare as the BBC reporting fairly on climate change or Donald Trump or the Israeli-Arab conflict.

       31 likes

  32. gaxvil says:

    Hard to evaluate just how much damage the ‘Extinction’ bods have done to their cause. Normal folks will carry on mostly driven by economics as ever was.
    My abiding memory will be of a pink PLASTIC boat towed by a big, dirty truck and the magical Emma Thompson flying 6,000 miles to keep up her public profile.

       45 likes

    • Not Gwent says:

      Extinction Misery Makers inc. will cost bystanders money through green taxes, banning diesel/petrol, flight rationing and the rest.

      Their cause was promoted this week with a ‘National Treasure’ fronted TV special. The State broadcaster loves to campaign whether it’s in support of a homecoming fighter (for the other side) or a three year slog helping to overturn a referendum result.

         18 likes

  33. StewGreen says:

    BBC4 now playing the Woodie Guthrie song
    “Run N*gga Run”
    .. and now his fans like Biil Bragg justifying that
    ..’oh he was a prisoner of that era’

    Oh then Woodie got a letter from a “negro” and apologised and said he wouldn’t use the term again.

       16 likes

  34. Fedup2 says:

    Gax
    A London thing – half term – forgotten in a week or when the weather turns iffy again . I pity the poor devil who has to sit next to Emma Thompson on her way back to LaLa Land . I wonder if she’s American now – she could have been denied entry to UK as’a threat to public order ‘ like so many others ….

       34 likes

    • Oldspeaker says:

      She’ll be sailing back surely. A rough calculation can be made here,
      https://www.carbonfootprint.com/calculator.aspx
      The difference between 1st class and economy is quite something.

         17 likes

      • JimS says:

        Surely if you pay for 1st class you get to transfer all of the carbon footprint to the plebs at the back?

        After all, they don’t need to fly dahling!

           25 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Fed,

      I noticed she was wearing a pair of blue denim overalls. They are usually the daily dress of female hill billy people in the lower eastern states of the US.

         6 likes

  35. Fedup2 says:

    I don’t know if the MSM will cover it but the declaration that the Derbyshire Tory Party won’t campaign for Tory MEPs can only be good news. As one who favours the oblivion of the red Tory party and its’ replacement by a proper right wing ‘ grouping ‘ it will be great to see their party fracturing ….

    And all that greasy pole nonsense about Gove BoJo Rudd and the other used tissues will count for nothing – they can join the old boy dancing for the Liberals

       28 likes

  36. vlad says:

    Watching Mastermind, I couldn’t help but notice how hideously white all the contestants were. And always had been. As well as the audience. Never seen so many white faces in one place.
    Thinking about it, so was University Challenge. And Only Connect. And most of the more intellectual gameshows.

    Could it be – gasp! – that the bbc is… RACIST?

       45 likes

    • Sluff says:

      Vlad
      The shows you mention are highly discriminatory.
      All of the questions are given in English.
      Which, based on our local council’s multi-language election literature, must disenfranchise quite a large proportion of potential contestants and audience!

         24 likes

      • vlad says:

        So: racist AND xenophobic, possibly islamophobic (I’ve never seen a single burka).
        The charge sheet is getting longer, bbc, better watch out!

           18 likes

    • Old Goat says:

      Lammy made a token appearance, once, and proved that a brain, in most cases, was not required.

         16 likes

  37. Sluff says:

    A journalist has been killed by a shooting in Northern Ireland.
    This cannot be condoned.
    But it turns out that she was gay, an LGBT rights campaigner, with a lesbian partner.
    I mention this because the BBC 10 pm news made more references to her sexuality than the issues around the violence that resulted in her death.
    One almost felt a certain delight in the reporting that an excuse to promote the gay agenda has been created.
    I wonder if an equivalent treatment would have been given if the victim had been a straight man ? Such as, would his sexuality have even been mentioned? I very much doubt it.
    My condolences to the family of the victim.

       43 likes

  38. StewGreen says:

    14,000 more signatures needed
    Petition : Investigate the BBC
    https://petition.parliament.uk/signatures/67656298/signed

       22 likes

  39. keith jeremy says:

    Apparently the Scottish police are looking for a man with a “tanned complexion” in this murder:
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-47991112
    Is this the BBC or the police being particularly obtuse for the sake of being PC Pc’s. Who will they be looking for? Some bloke just back from his sunny beach hols? A swarthy Latino or maybe an Indonesian? If the wanted man was a guy with red hair and Celtic tats, would they not say?

       24 likes

    • gb123 says:

      With a description like tanned complexion, the Sottish police are going to end up arresting a lot of men from Cheshire with the chief suspect being David Dickinson from the Real Deal and Bargain Hunt.

         15 likes

      • vesnadog says:

        gb,

        “We don’t do white people we only do tanned people” was the explanation given by a local police officer in Iran.

           5 likes

    • Van Helsing says:

      Actually, given the reluctance of the authorities (and media) in Scotland to acknowledge that Celtic fans do anything wrong it’s highly unlikely that Police Scotland would have put out anything other than the loosest description of said red haired chap with Celtic tats, and certainly nothing that would identify him as being a supporter of that shower.

         8 likes

  40. ScottishCalvin says:

    Just saw the latest pictures from Paris. Despite the damage and the restoration needed, I’d still sleep with her.

       10 likes

  41. Guest Who says:

    Statistically, he was going to have a point. Eventually.

       13 likes

    • Van Helsing says:

      In other news, a man in Camberwell reversed out of his driveway this morning…

         17 likes

  42. Guest Who says:

    Possibly OT, for which apols, but if OJ is dissing Bolt-on, it may be good value, and as I am blocked this may reveal all…

       10 likes

  43. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile in France, Macron’s Marauders beat up journalists and not a Beeboid with a Gaffa’d gob to be seen in the W1A foyer.

    Funny old world.

       28 likes

  44. Up2snuff says:

    TOADY Watch #1

    The curlew is under threat. Population down by 99% in Ireland. Why? One cause is the plowing up of meadows, I assume in order to be able to grow arable (vegan) crops. One solution from the nice lady seeking to save the curlew? Give up on eating meat and dairy foods ie. be vegan. Questions not asked by Simon Jack, temporary presenter for the day: “Will that not result in more meadows being ploughed to grow more arable crops?” and “Are not dairy cattle grazed in meadows which is a great habitat for curlews?”

    Doh!

       27 likes

  45. Guest Who says:

    Someone is gunning for a bbc interview. Ch 4 not keen probs.

       16 likes

  46. RobRoy says:

    Yours and mine favourite BBC Breakfast presenter, Naga, is trying to make out this Easter weekend is going to be HOT, and perhaps a few records broken.

    Then on comes the weatherman to tell us we’re not going to quite reach the record temp set in 1949 of 29c. So his words were ‘not quite’, so is it going to be 28.5c, 28c, or even 27.5c. No, he tells us London (that great big urban heat island) is going to reach 25c.

    Since when is a massive 4c difference ‘not quite breaking a record’. It misses by a country mile – and talking of the countryside, here areas will be a couple of centigrade lower still. BBC? Agenda?

       28 likes

  47. Guest Who says:

    No tvl. Is he right?

       24 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      I posted it on here a few days ago. Ahmed ‘left’ the Labour party some time after the allegations surfaced, so the BBC won’t be damaging the party they love by covering it.

      There were enough calls for Sir Philip Green to lose his knighthood, surely child rape would be enough to remove a sitting peer from the upper house with the damage to their lordships reputations.

         30 likes

  48. gaxvil says:

    I hear it’s wrong to refer to snowflakes as snowflakes – a term coined in the USA I think.
    It’s provocative, discriminatory and divisive ?
    And yet the term describes a person with a set of increasingly common characteristics.
    We used to call them, drips – which is still a good word.

       27 likes