Weekend Open Thread 13 April 2019

The Biased Far Left BBC is trying to relegate Brexit to the ‘3rd headline ‘ . Some might say the State has realised that there are over 17 million voters who are  angry because they can’t understand how democracy was subverted without a shot being fired .

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408 Responses to Weekend Open Thread 13 April 2019

  1. TrueToo says:

    You’re up bright and early on a weekend Fedup2!

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  2. taffman says:

    Me too , though I am off to bed, the fight back continues.
    Freedom, independence and sovereignty.

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  3. TrueToo says:

    Here’s incisive and biting criticism of May and her coconspirators from the Spectator.

    It’s the kind of article the BBC should be writing – but that allegedly British organisation doesn’t have any real journalists left.

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    • vesnadog says:

      TT,

      “that allegedly British organisation doesn’t have any real journalists left.”

      They have journalists left; but most of them must be fighting against what their own consciences are telling them.

      Tis the only way any BBC employee can mislead the British public is to tell lies and knowingly promote anti-family, anti-decency, anti-science, anti-children, anti-faithfulness, anti-Christian, anti-reality, etc etc .

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  4. Stevie m says:

    As many as 70 MP,s are demanding that Julian Arrange should face extradition to Sweeden to answer rape allegations. The rest are probably thinking some indicative votes might be the way forward.

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  5. Foscari says:

    For those of you just waking up who have missed the sports news
    on the BBC breakfast TV programme , I will give you a resume.
    Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods,
    Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods,
    Tiger Woods, Tiger Woods. Yes Tiger Woods was mentioned twelve times!

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    • Colboysigma says:

      Rock band Steel Panther do a great piss-take of “Tiger” in their song “Just Like Tiger Woods”. Pretty much captures all the stuff the BBC’s set aside… (Hookers, drugs, lies et al)

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    • Fedup2 says:

      It is strange that the BBC have a fixation for a foreigner yet in other sports they raise average players to sainthood – such as the Scottish tennis player .
      It’s clear the BBC editorial instructions are to make Tiger up there is the Obama Mandela reverence .

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  6. Doublethinker says:

    The world war between the Globalists and the people is becoming the defining issue of our times. Brexit, JJ’s in France, Salvini, Orban at al , are all battles in this war. But the decisive theatre of operations, so to speak , is in the USA. If the Globalists, a coalition of crazy Lefists Democrats and Global capitalist Never Trumpers, defeat the President, and in doing so the American people, it will probably be the decisive victory of the war.
    The battle of the Russian Collusion Hoax has been won by the President despite the MSM firing off all their potent ammunition over the past three years. The coup has failed and I’m sure that the President will insist that the conspirators will face trial and punishment in the public arena. He will also make sure that every American knows that the MSM were complicit in the coup and have lied to the people deliberately, systematically and continuously throughout the past three years. This surely ought to effectively destroy the credibility of the MSM in the USA and so remove from the battlefield the most potent weapon in the Globalist armoury. If the truth is reported fairly the Globalists will lose the war.
    We can only hope that the credibility of our own much despised BBC suffers a similar blow. Their behaviour over Brexit must have awakened millions of Brits to what we on this site have known for years, they are an anti British, leftist propaganda organ. Hopefully their anti Trump reporting will further diminish their standing in our country and in time lead to a refusal to pay for their vile propaganda.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Doublethinker,

      I agree totally. We are witnessing a momentous clash between the globalists, supported by their allies in the left-wing MSM, and ordinary people who believe in family and the nation state with defined borders.

      And yes, the US is at the heart of this struggle because of its power and influence in the world and also because of its idealism, which globalists have twisted to support their tactics of no-borders and anything-goes philosophy.

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    • countryblues says:

      A few years ago I thought that Australia and New Zealand would probably be the last two countries standing against all the insanity. After all, they’re full of tough, no-nonsense people…right? 🙁

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  7. Demon says:

    All my life whenever I thought about our political system I have supported FPTP. Even up until recently, despite it being unfair on the smaller parties who can never win more than the odd seat. One of my reasons was that we can get rid of our government if we don’t like them every five years, unlike say in Austria where (until recently) the same two parties have remained in permanent coalition since the war. Our way meant that the ruling party had limits as to what they could do to thwart the will of the People or they’d be out on their ears, but in Austria they would be back in power come-what-may either as senior or junior partners. These parties are the equivalent of Labour and Conservative so to have a similar PR system we would have the same problem.

    However when May finally sold us out by bringing Corbyn and the extreme alt-left Labour Party in to dictate their version of Brexit (spelt Remain) to her I realised that we have in the same problem as Austria despite FPTP.

    My conclusion is that now I fully support PR. If we can’t get rid of our permaent coalition government we need to have as many MPs from other parties to cause mayhem for this elected dictatorship. A bonus would be the virtual wipe-out of the SNP at Westminster.

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Completely agree.

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    • countryblues says:

      I too now support PR, but how could it ever be achieved? The Establishment would never accept it, even if voted for in a referendum 😉

      I voted against the proposed AV system because it was designed for the Libdems to hoover up all the alternative votes. Had it been one person, one vote I would have voted for it… 🙂

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      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        The Uk is now in a position where it would be quite easy to drum up support for proportional representation. The system has clearly broken down and is not fit for purpose. But people often get put off at the start by arguing about which system to chose. What happened in NZ was that an official commission suggested switching to the proportional AV similar system known as MMP.
        It was not the choice of many of us activists but on examining it we found it to be a system that met most of our requirements. The Electoral reform coalition made the decision that they would campaign for MMP and no other because they knew that having the commissions findings behind them was a boost. And as long as they had this the MPs would not be able to kill it off. (Though try they did!)
        We actually achieved our goal in about three or four years if I remember rightly. We did work hard at it but I think we were a bit surprised at how soon it happened really. I think the lesson to be learned is if you have been offered an advantage run with it. Having AV working in Scotland and Wales is an advantage for change in the UK. People understand it. Run with it and extend it to the national level would be my advice. Debating various systems till the cows come home only dissipates the energy of the campaign.
        Get the system switched to proportional first. Fine tune it later.
        A second piece of advice would be to ignore the STV system, at least at the National level. I found that its adherents to be very irritating pedantic the sort of people who love complicated systems and I found they often had little political nous.
        Oh yeah, and don’t let the Lib Dems run the campaign.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Demon, one of the many problems with Proportional Representation (PR) is that not only does it put total power in the hands of the Party it is then vulnerable to the leadership of that Party. (Think 1920s Germany/1950s South Africa – then jump forward to Anna Soubry. See the connection?)

      We may start with political Parties under PR that have benign leaderships but at anytime after that there can be changes. For a bang-up-to-date example think Labour Party, Momentum and Corbyn and McDonnell.

      It took only a couple of years from around 1919/1920 in Russia for most ‘revolutionaries’, ‘anti-Monarcists’ and those vaguely inclined in those directions to realise that they had been sold a total pup. They were trapped, however, for the next seventy years.

      Two of the most chilling words to hear in the 20th century have been ‘the Party’ or ‘der Partei’.

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      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        Up2, Under a PR system it is very easy to bring down a party going off the rails. Start a new party. Under the FPTP system ‘der Partei’ is entrenched and leads to the situation which we see now. Two corrupt faction ridden morally bankrupt relics joining together to thwart the will of the people and increasingly cracking down on dissent.
        This is all happening under the present system. It’s time for a long overdue change. Der Partei? You’ve got plenty enough of Der Partei, mate, its time to give a real choice to ‘der peiple’ for heavens sake.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          Yasser, it seems easy to start a new political Party but it is not. I switched off AQs when Gerard Batten was being tritely slurred by another Panellist and the stacked audience roared its approval. But Batten is the architect of his own problems.

          Then, earlier, he attacked the weaknesses in the new Brexit Party and they do exist.

          I haven’t yet mentioned the need to check for Fifth Columnists or saboteurs or infiltrator traitors.

          Add in the problem of finance. Add rules and regulations. Add in the natural weaknesses of true democracy at the local and Party level.

          No easy task.

          Then after the Election? Horse trading to form a coalition government.

          Think Belgium, mate, think Belgium! Do you really want that?

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          • Demon says:

            “Think Belgium, mate, think Belgium! Do you really want that?”

            Yes – and Italy, that is why I have been steadfastly opposed to PR until now. I’m convinced we wouldn’t have been given a referendum in 2016 if we’d had PR then. But now, after seeing May smooching Corbyn and showing that they are all working together for the Common Bad I feel the only way to get any kind of People’s representatives would be PR. I looked at it years ago and couldn’t see a system that didn’t have major flaws which is why I preferred not changing. Another reason I wanted to stick with FPTP was that the MPs are linked with constituencies and under some forms of PR that link is lost. However, May on her knees praying for Corbyn is not a pretty sight and her kowtowing to him is totally undemocratic.

            My suggestion would be that over a period of, say, 10 years we abolish the Lords as it stands and replace it with representatives chosen proportionally from the national votes cast at a General Election. Once we decide which is the best system we then start electing the Commons in the same way. That would mean the Upper House has no further function and could be abolished. Or better still the Upper House could be formed by PR across the whole UK and the Commons could become the English Parliament with the same powers as the Scottish one. The Upper House would decree on all UK wide policies, while the lower house just the ones pertaining to England.

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          • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

            Up 2 . I wouldn’t wish Belgium on the Belgians.
            I would have thought I had made the point often enough. The design of the PR system is all important. There needs to be a cut-off point of four or five percent. Parties receiving less than that level of the vote don’t get a seat in the assembly. The failings of some of the pr voting systems in Europe, and in this we can include The Netherlands, is that the threshold is too low. This allows nutter groups in.
            A five percent cut off point is quite reasonable and allows people a choice from about five to seven parties.
            Mark Steyn agrees with me on this.

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Yasser, I respect your and Demon’s and cb’s views. I’m just very nervous around PR.

              Yes you can design a PR system, perhaps over-design even, but then the complaint comes that “people do not understand what or who they are voting for”. Then you get the Ken Clarke 21st century approach where he says “Manifestos – ha! Who bothers to read them let alone stick to what they contain?”. (He was very happy for Ted Heath to take the UK into the EEC (EU) on the strength of a vague-ish, down in the lesser items, back end of the, manifesto commitment.

              Both FPTP and PR suffer when communities do not have a representative. Under PR they are always parachuted in or some might say imposed on their constituents. In FPTP, there is a tendency of Conservatives and Labour, as you know, to try out new candidates in seats (constituencies) where they have little or no hope of winning before, after some time serving, they are then parachuted into a safer seat.

              How many people can name their MEP? When surveys have been done it is very few. I could once upon a time but have now lost track and OK, I admit, I’m a bit politically geeky. EU Elections, IIRC, are run on PR system.

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Be very careful what you wish for.

      The SNP are idiots in the emperors new clothes, and most Scots understand this. But when they lost their ‘majority’ in this stupid assembly, its the bisexual lunatic watermelon Harvie with all his list green msp’s that now drive Scottish politics.
      These people are insane.
      It’s Marxism on steroids.
      A ‘first minister’ presides over a ghetto slum constituency that she packs out with roma gypsies and welfare junkies, and they applaud the progressive nature of Scottish politics.
      It is horrific, but I don’t know if the next generation of Scots will care.
      Take this as your warning!

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  8. Guest Who says:

    This is the young man at the bbc who supports Extinction Rebelllion.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Extinction Rebellion liked this.

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      • Guest Who says:

        And here is the BBC’s new darling, of Navaro Media who, along with the Graun, Morning Star, Indy and The European, have unique funding in lieu of an audience too.

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        • Guest Who says:

          That is this outfit:

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          • Roland Deschain says:

            Look at the bulging eyeballs. The eyes of a fanatic.

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            • BRISSLES says:

              I tend to find eyes like that quite scary, that are just a black dot surrounded by a visible sea of whiteness. Most ethnics have eyes like this. The Begum woman is a good example.

              Have also noticed that many American film actors are of the same propensity. (Just one of those things, that once you start to notice something, it becomes an all consuming occupation.)

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            • Fedup2 says:

              And I bet half the people in that room have a 4×4 to drive around London

              Mr monbiot seems a bit ashamed to be alive . He could always remedy that and recycle himself .

              When I hear smugs like him I think of the – still – millions without fresh water or a sewage system – and even worse -no internet ….

              ( I like burning hydrocarbons in my little car and believe climate change is a flat earth lie )

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        • Up2snuff says:

          GW, it is coming here if we remain trapped [ some might say enslaved 😉 ] in the EU.

          The EU could well be a proto-World Government that will eventually assume its world-National Socialism/world-Communist stance and origins only when it is too late to avoid it.

          Vote Out now! (Well, on 2 and 22 May 2019 if the candidates are available.) Don’t give up on the Ballot Box. Democratic liberty.

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        • Guest Who says:

          Here’s the next bit, with the Beebette wailing she wants to hear the ‘anecdote’ in lieu of evidence.

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  9. theisland says:

    There is a difference between the majority of the 48% who originally voted remain and the relatively very few of those who are determined to overturn the democratic result for purely selfish reasons (money and/or power). This is what drives the movers and shakers in parliament who, along with powerful allies, have spent the last three years manipulating their many substandard colleagues, and attempting to re-propagandise the ‘peasants’ (that’s us folks). Hence the fairy tale that there must be another vote.

    bBC – “Cross-party Brexit talks ‘positive’”

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    • StewGreen says:

      Spot in
      “There is a difference between the majority of the 48% who originally voted remain and the relatively very few of those who are determined to overturn the democratic result”

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    • vesnadog says:

      “long-baily”

      You bet she’s open to compromise; she darnt talk politics with any one who disagrees with her as she can only hold a few sentances together before looking to her boss for answers.

      How/why on earth has this woman been chosen by Corbyn to be the shadow ministers second in command?

      Good grief!

      the person she’s arguing with obliterates every one of her silly points.

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  10. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile yet more Beeboids retreat behind the illusion of safety their bubble presents.

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  11. G says:

    Here’s another, “Factcheck” for you in relation to the established forms of Brexit
    https://fullfact.org/europe/does-public-want-no-deal/
    ‘Full Fact’, it appears to me to be yet another set-up which avidly supports Remain even if its narrative is ‘BBC like’ in its devious way of persuading the public.
    FullFact’s conclusion in its final citation of, ‘statistics’ is that:
    “With that question, remaining was the favourite, preferred by 37% of the public, followed by no deal on 26%.”
    Curiously, FF gives a link to Professor John Curtice’s own offerings regarding the polling. You remember Curtice is for political statistics as the eccentric Patrick Moore was to Astronomy.
    In every one of three paragraphs written by Curtice, he states unequivocally, “That (leave) support comes almost entirely from those who voted Leave, as many as 47% of whom have on average identified it as their first choice.”
    He concludes: “So, it looks as though leaving without a deal is the first preference around half or so of Leave voters and is certainly more popular among them than Mrs May’s deal.”
    I certainly prefer the ‘look-alike’ Patrick Moore’s views.

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  12. Cassandra says:

    More Bashing the British on Radio 4 Toady, led by Anita Anand and Nick Robinson (aren’t BBC ‘broadcasters’ supposed to be objective?). This time it was about the centenary of the Amritsar Massacre. These BBC propaganda lectures always move towards the same conclusion, as ably demonstrated by this cartoon.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Cassandra – Conventional Wisdom has it that God is dead.
      Most of us have a little guilt, tucked way somewhere among those Billions of neurons.
      But there is nowhere to go for absolution, since He has been disposed of (even by a lot of ‘churches’). We are too wise, too scientific and definitely secular. We don’t need Him.
      So the Amritsars will keep coming, cos others have realised how to exploit our guilt. (Which may have a sound basis in reality, but are of the (often distant) past- and not to be used against people in the present). Mistakes have been made, and stupid or panicked or evil people in history have done stupid or panicked or evil things.
      But that was then. If the guilty-feeling Nick Robinsons want to ritually dispose of a little guilt on the BBC, let them go and do it in private, instead of virtue-signalling and trying to foist it onto everyone else!
      Here is a bonus: You want to stop the spread/migration of Political Islam in its tracks?
      Get back to your own God. Contrary to Nitezsche and Dawkins, He is still around.
      If an apparent ‘clash’ with science bothers you, start by having a look at a programme by astrophysicist, Hugh Ross: ‘Cosmic reasons to believe in Christ’ (which is actually a part 3 of three).
      Islam would quickly shut up in the face of the Truth, but we don’t present it any more. There is this myth, propagated by clever people that ‘religions cause wars’. Not True. Not necessary.
      The Big White Guilt trip would stop abruptly. But right now there is the most wonderful vacuum for Islam to move into. The Gates of Vienna have been taken down.
      PS The Schulz/Snoopy cartoons are actually a wonderful defence of Christianity, if you get to study them.

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  13. LastChanceSaloon says:

    “there are over 17 million voters who are angry because they can’t understand how democracy was subverted without a shot being fired”

    We understand.

    [Inappropriate comment edited out.]

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  14. StewGreen says:

    R4 “What I call the ASIAN invasion” just said
    … It’s OK cos she’s Babita Sharma* an Asian descendent whose dad owned a corner shop.

    and the one presenter is Asian too ,

    * a BBC World presenter plugging her own book

    which by coincidence will be Radio 4’s Book of The Week from May 6th

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    • vesnadog says:

      Stew,

      Its only a matter of time before the underlying cancer within the anti-democratic BBC bears fruit; then watch her fall from grace when THE big players are given the opportunity to out-bid BBC over nationwide coverage….I predict that any of the US Media giants will cause the demise of said BBC public broadcaster.inc.

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    • vesnadog says:

      Stew,

      “Every one has a favourite corner shop story”

      I bet some of you Muslims have more than stories to tell especially if your shop is slap-bang next to the latest Mosque.

      Those stories coming out of the next door mosque are horror stories for those white women who bravely walk past said mosques. “Taking ones life into their own hands” springs to mind.

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  15. Guest Who says:

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    • vesnadog says:

      Guest,

      “2,300 activists”

      Dead ringer that Herr Soros has financed each and every one of these drop-outs:

      Step forward financier George Soros. The billionaire funds ‘Occupy Wall Street’ through an intermediary known as the Tides Foundation in San Francisco. Look for any anti-Christian NGO worldwide, and you can be sure the Tides Foundation is funding it.

      Gay rights in Uganda, abortion rights in Tanzania, you name it. Tides, and others like them, are putting up the money.

      Reuters News Agency says this:

      ‘According to disclosure documents from 2007-2009, Soros’ Open Society gave grants of $3.5 million to the Tides Center, a San Francisco-based group that acts almost like a clearing house for other donors, directing their contributions to liberal non-profit groups. Among others the Tides Center has partnered with are the Ford Foundation and the Gates Foundation.’

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    • JamesArthur says:

      I would love to see what happened if all of the power /energy from fossil fuels was taken away from some of these idiots..
      It may be we need less and can/should make it cleaner but over? Morons…

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Being Easter the roads will be so bloody blocked anyway that the Protestors will have trouble finding one to obstruct 🙂

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  16. theisland says:

    NUTS

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  17. john in cheshire says:

    Whatever happened to the constituency boundary changes and the reduction in the number of HoC swamp rats?

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      john – far be it from me to be cynical, but could they have been quietly
      shelved in the hope of being forgotten? At least, as far as the numbers thing goes?

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  18. Lock13 says:

    Why does the BBC keep telling me that 100m tons of plastic ends up in the Oceans. Yes we know and it all get’s dumped there by Africa and the Far-East . What do you want me to do about it BBC? I already recycle we all do you total muppets.

    Looking forward to Attenborough’s work of fiction on Climate Change later this week. I am guessing it is not going to have one single accurate fact in it.

    Maybe they can bring on Professor Brian Cox in his speedo’s swimming in plastic whilst polishing his boyfriend Dara O’Briain’s head.

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    • vesnadog says:

      Lock,

      “Why does the BBC keep telling me that 100m tons of plastic ends up in the Oceans.”

      Its supposed to send us “real world people” into another “guilt trip Mark 2”

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    • Van Helsing says:

      Why don’t they identify the REAL culprits when it comes to plastic pollution? Or would that be waaaaaaaaycist?

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  19. theisland says:

    I must admit I’m torn – it’s a great pity about the split.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      island – personally, I’m OK with Nigel. But he made the mistake of thinking it was in the bag…
      But Gerard too, deserves our support. He did not make that mistake.
      He took UKIP through the valley of the shadows (dramatic, isn’t it?). I’ll stick to him.

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      • gaxvil says:

        Reckon the Greens and SDP will do well. Change UK isn’t up and running and the ex Labour spokesman sounded like dead lice were dropping off him.
        Spot on – the Chairman of the 1922 Cte., ‘ Cameron thought we were the naughty children having a tantrum over a new school uniform. Let the tantrum subside and our paternal Parliament would lead us back to sanity.’

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    • taffman says:

      Al Beeb and the MSM will aim to exploit this divide. Brexiteers should be aware of this . Working together they can reach their goal.
      If Mrs Chamberlain can jump into bed with Corr Bin, then Farage and Batten can coalesce and get us the freedom, independence and democrecy we deserve.

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  20. Cassandra says:

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    • john in cheshire says:

      And it will be renamed as a hole of colour. And first discovered by muslims.

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    • vesnadog says:

      I see Mr Sweeny is 7th from the right again.

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    • vlad says:

      Or as Jon Snow might say, I’ve never seen so many hideously white people outside a science lab before.

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      • vesnadog says:

        vlad,

        “Cass,

        “the fortcoming BBC adaption”

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        Or, each of our foreign visitors arrive at BBC HQ London in the summer. The above photo of them outside BBC Ghana is a small example

        Oh, and they each have 2-3 wives and at least 6 children each!

        Quite naturally, all BBC employees are denied the chance of taking at least one family to live with their families.

        Note: We at the BBC thought that that opportunity of a lifetime should go to the northern peasants.

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  21. jip says:

    The BBC want you to know about “the US students who want to pay slavery descendants reperations”… in an article filled with self flagellation, about how the entire wealth of America was built in slavery:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47886292

    But of course the BBC never asks the question why the African countries who profited from selling the slaves in the first place are not as rich as America. And of course in true BBC style, they never put this in any context. They never mention that for the entire of history there was slavery, in every territory and country since before the time of Moses.

    Then the BBC have complete amnesia about how the British empire was the first empire in history to ban slavery in 1830, led by William Wilberforce. And the fact that the British were pivitol in ending slavery worldwide, which was common place at the time… instead they reference us to an article that tells Britich people they should pay reparations as instead:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/education-45979234

    Well i have a fantastic idea, both Alexander Fleming who invented antibiotics, and Edward Jenner who invented vaccines, were British. Before these medicines wed invented 50% of children would die before the age of 5. Because of the invention of these life saving medicines and the British inventions created in the industrial revolution, the world population has increased from 700 million to 7 billion… this means that 90% of people today are alive thanks thanks to the British, and they owe us this as a debt.

    So i suggest that the 90% of people who are alive today thanks to British inventions like Antibiotics, Vaccines, electricity, fertilizer… should pay the UK royalties forever.

    When we get paid that money, then we can use a few percent to pay for slavery reparations… after these slave descendants pay us for ending slavery of course.

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  22. Up2snuff says:

    While Rap & Grime music is generally not ‘my thing’ I have heard of Kanye West, Stormzy, Eminem, Snoop Dogg and Goldie and a few more. I even quite enjoyed occasional bits of their repertoire.

    Can anyone explain the BBC’s complete obsession with Nipsey Hussle who, until sadly he was violently murdered, appeared to be something of a no mark American musician? We have had two weeks of endless coverage on the BBC web-site.

    Is it yet another example of the BBC’s obsession with all things American? Or do they think that by lauding and continually referring to Nipsey Hussle that they are showing themselves to be ‘hip’ and ‘dahn wivda kids’? In addition, by doing that, does the BBC think they will win back the youth and young adult audience that they have lost in the last twenty years and are still losing? Or all three?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Evidence of clear BBC bias
      R4 week in Westminster
      Two remainers ( a TIG and Libdem against 1 ukiper )

      Even more clear cut

      A self important journo called Peter Oborne
      Has “ seen the light “ and has gone from Brexiter to Remainer and spending the week being lauded .

      No balance – no challenge about his alleged reasoning or what personal gain he might receive from becoming an anti democrat – coupled with a cavalier disregard of those who voted to Leave / ‘No Ifs No Buts’

      The BBC is carrying on with their assarge fixation . I’m sure only the bubble cares and doesn’t want him to go to America where can think about his ego in a federal prison for the next 30 years – if guilty of course .

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      • vesnadog says:

        Fed,

        “A self important journo called Peter Oborne”

        These people will never learn.

        If his majesty President OBAMA couldn’t influence traitors to vote remain then as certain as eggs are eggs any one below the intellect of sir Obama will obviously fail miserably.

        We leavers keep waning them about these facts but they never listen.

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Peter Oborne works for the Daily Mail.

        The Daily Mail used to be very pro-Brexit under former editor Paul Dacre. Now, under new editor Geordie Greig, the Daily Mail has done a 180 and is pro-remain.

        Peter Oborne wishes to keep his extremely well paid job.

        Peter Oborne has just discovered that he now agrees with his editor, and is pro-remain.

        Peter Oborne loves Big Brother.

        Peter Oborne is a worthless piece of scum.

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        • vesnadog says:

          Rob,

          “Peter Oborne works for the Daily Mail.

          The Daily Mail used to be very pro-Brexit under former editor Paul Dacre. Now, under new editor Geordie Greig, the Daily Mail has done a 180 and is pro-remain.

          Peter Oborne wishes to keep his extremely well paid job.

          Peter Oborne has just discovered that he now agrees with his editor, and is pro-remain.

          Peter Oborne loves Big Brother.

          Peter Oborne is a worthless piece of scum.”

          Peter Oborne has been “promised” something which he can’t reveal yet.

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    • vlad says:

      You missed one: he’s black, therefore automatically cool in beeb land, never mind that his ‘art form’ is replete with sex and drugs, mysogyny, guns and violence. Even his funeral was marked by violence and at least 1 dead.
      How cool is that?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      So you’re down the the kids daddio . I’ve never heard of any of those ‘ artists’ but my theory is that every time a ‘black artist ‘ comes to a sticky end the BBC enjoy playing a bit on each R4 News – especially on Toady – snowflake city …

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  23. pugnazious says:

    MPs demanded a vote to decide Brexit, Gina Miller campaigned to ensure they did have that meaningless vote, and then MPs demanded that the voters be given the final say….Parliament must decide…oh…hang on…The People must decide…and when if they do? Another ‘meaningful vote’? Only if the ‘People’s Vote’ [lol] votes Leave.

    Curious how the BBC ‘analysis’ never quite digs into the weeds and discovers the rotting heart of our democracy…indeed the BBC seems to be doing all it can to defend the indefensible……

    The BBC has never been too bothered whether their reporting is blatantly anti-Brexit but now it is all too obvious as they think it is all over.

    A couple of days ago Nick Robinson labelled the last three years the ‘Brexit madness’ …of course qualifying it with ‘as the EU might say’, whilst the next day we heard on Today from a BBC presenter that ‘Now Brexit is over….’…really? The stitch up is complete? Then again when you saw May laugh off a suggestion she should resign I think we got the real Remain supporting May there openly showing her contempt for Brexit and Brexiteers. History will judge.

    This morning we were treated by Today to one of the BBC’s most devious of ploys…quoting a statement from someone they agree with and treating it as the default position…the only right-thinking way of looking at something…in this case it is not the MPs and their Lordships who are the problem blocking Brexit but fanatical activists who put pressure on them. The guests on the show are then asked to prove why this isn’t so…all the time of course heckled and interrupted whilst making their point by the likes of Robinson…who is not above spinning and lying to disrupt the narrative….Robinson who indeed had to be corrected by Michael Howard who Robinson claimed was a hardline Brexit zealot unwilling to compromise….except of course he’d already said he was willing to compromise and accept May’s deal.

    So what was the ‘default position’? It was one put forward by Phil Collins from the Remain supporting Times…..note no interview with Collins himself to challenge his claim nor to question his use of ‘incendiary language’ that we are told, when used by Brexiteers, inflames anger and division and threatens MPs…then again Robinson himself declared angry activists had hijacked the Parties and were holding them to ransom [hmmm….aren’t they actually ‘The Party’ and the MPs are supposed to represent them and the voters?]…haven’t MPs in fact hijacked their parties, and indeed the government, and held them all to ransom?…

    Phil Collins in The Times…

    Britain is held hostage by party members

    Both the Tories and Labour have put far too much power in the hands of people who do not represent the general public. [lol….surely he is talking about the MPs themselves!!!]

    And so the caucus race goes on and the long tale still has no end in sight. Theresa in Wonderland has been instructed by her party, like Alice taking dictation from the Dodo, to run round pointlessly in a circle. The Dodo is an apt metaphor for what the Conservative Party seems determined to be. It is in a mood of self-harm and the culprits are its members who should never be allowed near power in a political party.
    It is time to insist on this important but unfashionable point because excessive power granted to members of the main political parties has made progress impossible.’

    There are so many points that are clearly false in this claim that it has absolutely no merit whatsoever…and yet the BBC has decided it is the narrative that they want to spin….MPs are doing great work but they are being stopped from the successful conclusion by extremist, hardline zealots and fanatics.

    The BBC clearly trying to make out the Remain MPs are some kind of heroes rather than the treacherous, lying, shameless, unprincipled, dishonest two-faced EU stooges that they are….stooges collaborating with an ‘enemy’ state to damage the British national interest…the EU doing everything it can to destroy British economic interests as well as trying to annex part of the UK…Putin/Ukraine/Crimea springs to mind….instead of Putin’s ‘little green men’ we have the EU’s ‘useful idiots’ in Parliament itself working to undermine our interests.

    There was a time when the BBC championed these fanatical Remain activists…such as Remainer Gina Miller who insisted MPs have their say in a ‘meaningful vote[lol]…the BBC was desperate for those Remain MPs to have their say…knowing they will vote to stop Brexit…..and those same MPs who complain about the voters ‘pressurising’ them also demand those same voters have a second vote….bizarre…..and is the BBC now saying these MPs should not have a vote and it should all be wrapped up behind closed doors? Actually that is exactly what Robinson suggested…that McDonnell and Hammond should be allowed to come to agreement…and we’d have a great success on our hands!

    Interesting choice of people…not Corbyn or May….just proof, as we have known all along, that Hammond has been a major obstacle to progress on delivering Brexit…the real power behind the throne. [just why did Remainer May not sack him? He’s a useful fall guy who can take the blame (deservedly) for blocking Brexit].

    So two Remainers getting together cooking up their own little plot and that should just be rubber stamped by Parliament? When a ‘Remain’ total non-Brexit is on the cards the BBC thinks we should just accept it gratefully but when May actually comes up with a Remain-leaning, but still ‘Brexit’ deal agreed with the EU, MPs are celebrated heroes for opposing it[ERG aside of course!]? A BBC agenda there?

    Isn’t this forgetting the BBC’s usual ‘analysis’?…..that it is hardline, extremist Brexiteer backbench MPs who have blocked ‘Brexit’…the BBC has spent the last two years blaming them and now suddenly, when Brexit has been blocked by Remain MPs, the BBC changes the narrative to one where MPs are all working hard in the national interest under pressure from fanatics and extremists because they don’t want the voters to put the blame where it belongs…on those Remain MPs. Let’s not forget a general election may be in the offing and those MPs might get a kicking…so many of them Labour MPs….the BBC’s favourites.

    And let’s not forget, as the BBC does, that the EU has been totally uncompromising and that it deliberately invented the mythical Backstop ‘problem’ to create leverage in the negotiations making it all but impossible for Brexit to happen….and recruiting its own extremist zealots, the IRA, as its terrorist ‘enforcers’ to ensure there is no backsliding on the Backstop….a narrative fully endorsed and enthusiastically adopted by the BBC as it repeatedly used the threat of the IRA to insist that the Backstop was crucial to keep the peace….have to ask when Police chiefs say they have 10,000 police officers on stand-by to stop Leave voters protesting where are the similar statements saying that whatever happens to the border in NI they will have 10,000 officers on stand-by to ensure the peace there?

    Two themes then, two BBC ‘interests’….making out Remain MPs are not treacherous liars betraying democracy, the voters and the national interest and that Brexit hasn’t been stolen by them…and laying the groundwork for a Labour victory in any possible election.

    Curious though that it is not zealots and fanatics within the parties who are angry, or certainly not them alone, but the populace as a whole, both Remain and Leave….as Sky points out…it’s the reaction on the doorstep, on the street, that gives a lie to the Times/BBC narrative…..there is genuine, widespread and justified anger, fury, at the incompetent and shameless liars in Parliament who have failed us all….From Sky News…

    ‘Incompetent, self-interested s****’: Fear and loathing on the doorstep over Brexit

    ‘Activists have told Sky News that the reaction on the doorstep over Brexit can be “vitriolic”.
    Ffrom conversations I’ve been having with councillors and council candidates from both main parties over the past few days, all campaigning for next month’s local elections, the reaction they’ve received this time round has been of a quite different order.

    The Tories, most of all, are in abject despair with many believing they are heading for the drubbing of their lives.

    One, a local chairman from Essex, told me that his prime minister’s actions represent “an absolute betrayal of the British people”.

    He told me: “Next month’s elections are going to be absolutely pivotal – we are going to get absolutely hammered.

    “We are struggling to get anyone to deliver leaflets, even members of our executive don’t want to go out.”

    “Members are saying, why should I get s*** on the doorstep and doors slammed in my face when I’m as angry as they are?”
    But this isn’t just a rejection of the Tory party and Theresa May, the backlash extends to Labour too.

    I’ve spoken to a score of Labour councillors from up and down the country who are deeply concerned about the reaction they’re getting.
    One Labour councillor in south Yorkshire told me he’d seen nothing like it.
    “It’s horrendous – worse than when people spat at us over Iraq,” he said.
    “Canvassing feels pretty tough – mainly people want to tell us we are all corrupt and f****** useless.”

    At the other end of the land, a Labour councillor in Essex said: “This is by far the worst election I’ve been involved with.

    “It’s vitriolic. You knock at a door and the people on the other side scream at you.
    “It’ll take a generation to recover. All you hear is ‘Labour are stopping Brexit. Corbyn is crap, the Tories are traitors, we are all the same’. People are clear, they won’t be voting.”

    Massive, massive anger across the country and the BBC is trying to hide that and deflect the blame way from the MPs who deserve every bit of it, every bit of abuse and opprobriumm that comes their way.

    Not as if the Remain gameplan wasn’t known all along….it was very simple…pay lip-service to ‘delivering Brexit’ but ensure it is delayed and delayed and delayed until it can be quietly forgotten.

    Zealous Remainer, Matthew Parris, in The Spectator laid it all out long ago in 2017…..Brexiteers ‘are right to smell a rat’ he said….

    At last! The subversion of Brexit has begun

    ‘Two years before departure, another two years’ transition, and staying in the EU might seem a good idea.

    The Brexit crowd are right to smell a rat.

    What if the columnist detects a possible conspiracy to help his own side win?
    I prefer the simple view that we should tell it as it is. So, with apologies to fellow Remainers who may accuse me of letting the cat out of the bag, I must tell you that this business of a ‘transitional’ or ‘implementation’ period after Britain has formally left the EU — the plan that Theresa May endorsed in Florence last week — strikes me as carrying a secret threat to Leavers’ hopes: a threat Remainers should not disclose yet.

    Were I a Machiavellian Remainer I would be telling fellow Remainers (quietly, lest we be overheard) something like this:

    ‘Guys, each of the steps on our journey must look like common sense when taken in isolation.
    ‘But guys, it’s important to leave it at that, for the moment. Important to give this sensible-sounding proposal time to bed down. Important to lace our speeches with assurances that the “transition” is simply the bridge. “Time to adjust”, “buy a bit more time”, etc. Brexit is on course, but running a bit late: that’s the song we should all sing….
    …..‘And as it happens, guys, there’s a name for this suggested improved idea. It’s called being in the European Union. In what possible respect can taking their rules and meeting their tax demands, but without having any say, be a better situation than getting a say too? Guys, our argument, when we come to make it, is going to be hard to resist.

    ‘But guys, not a word about this yet. You know how touchy Brexit headbangers are. You know how insecure they feel, how fearful that somehow it’s all going to be snatched away from them before Britain signs on the dotted line. What they’ll fear is that until we’re right out of that door and no longer EU members, there will always be the danger that Brexit fever may abate, the electorate will move on, and other, bigger, more pressing events will intercede.
    ‘So guys, not a word about where this proposal for a transition period must logically lead. Not yet.’’

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  24. Doobster78 says:

    Look at the carnage it could cause of we CRASH out without a deal !!!! Real scary stuff !!!

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-47912881

    How the hell will we cope ?????

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Doobster, aah but, no but, yes but we will not have to pay £39 billion and austerity will be over.

      On the other hand, if we go for a cosy Labour deal of whatever sort, oh! Whoops! Er …. what?!!!

      Under a deal to leave we have to pay the £39bn ransom to the EU and continue our subscriptions (shortly to be increased) of around £12/13bn net per annum (£18/20/22bn gross per annum – tax charged and paid by UK taxpayers) so that …

      ….. austerity will continue. And maybe have to give up Northern Ireland after a Referendum there.

      All thanks to the Labour Party, Yvette Cooper and Oliver Letwin.

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  25. Up2snuff says:

    Fed has just reminded me of the Assange. No, not personally, the name-check above.

    Listening to R4 this a.m. – yeah, the TOADY Programme (I should learn from my mistakes) – I found myself thinking ‘Has Julian Assange got dirt on the UK Labour Party? Is that why, hatred/dislike of President Trump apart, they are so keen to see Assange ‘buried’ in the Swedish legal system?

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  26. Non Snowflake says:

    So, BBC, what was it that first attracted you to the black millionaire Tiger Woods?

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    • Not Gwent says:

      Crumbs what a nice man.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Non, it is a classic story.

      Outstanding player, hero to many, so nearly the most Majors won then downfall.

      Womanising, booze, sex, booze, anger, booze, violence. Attempted recovery after a period of rehabilitation cut short by injury and health problems. Major surgery, IIRC. Another attempted comeback ending in failure. Then the old skills tantalisingly appear to return. Starts to be competitive.

      Can Tiger win a Major again? Can he equal Jack Nicklaus’ record? Can he beat it before age, the yips or injury and health intervene?

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  27. Celtic_Mist says:

    An ‘intellectual’ view from America – short read
    /
    Yet it is not just economic distress unsettling Western populations. In both Western Europe and the United States, virtually unrestricted illegal immigration threatens local cultures at the same time that it burdens local government resources. The dirigiste elites have always promoted multiculturalism to encourage both mercantile and cultural international ties. Multicultural ideals have led European leaders to encourage immigration, particularly from their one-time colonies. Also, mass immigration to Europe from the Middle East and North Africa, and to the U.S. from Central and South America, provides Europe and the U.S. a ready supply of cheap labor. Crony capitalism has reinforced the idealism of dirigiste elites.
    /
    http://www.adividedworld.com/cultural-issues/balance-of-social-justice-with-human-freedom-in-the-social-contract/?utm_source=Subscribers&utm_campaign=f97df9da67-RSS_EMAIL_CAMPAIGN&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_1f511d2125-f97df9da67-242768745&fbclid=IwAR1jxo5MC5y48W9Yar6rP8mXF-qYHY-OzR6z9V-bYQA9w2QWzpwmPGPpbEw

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  28. jip says:

    More terible happenings reported by the BBC “Dozier School for Boys: Dozens more suspected graves found”… and the BBC treat us to a picture of the bulldozers exchavating the grounds of the Florida school in question to look for murder victims:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47912145

    They are of course exchavating to find the bodies for evidence, and so they can be given a proper buriel. Of course we saw this kind of excaavation many times before, to find the victims of terrible people like Harald Shipmann or Ian Brady… in many wars we see bodies exhumed and repatriated to give the famlies some kind of closure.

    So why is there one case of mass murder where the bodies can never be exhumed… to even suggest that evidence is gathered is sacraledge… to question the details can get you thrown in jail in some countries… if the truth is out there, what is wrong with gathering the evidence?.

    Have the BBC been lying and propagandizing for that long?

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    • maxincony says:

      jip,

      So why is there one case of mass murder where the bodies can never be exhumed… to even suggest that evidence is gathered is sacraledge…?

      Possibly because the only people who want to dig up the bones of holocaust victims are antisemitic nob-heads such as your good self, “jip”.

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      • taffman says:

        maxincony
        Have you any evidence of to post about Al Beeb’s bias ?
        Any evidence of Al Beeb’ impartiality during the Brexit debate ?

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      • jip says:

        Maxincony, Why am i antisemitic?

        If there was any propaganda about the holocaust, why would Jewish people have anything to do with it?

        It seems you have been conditioned by the media into that response, you made a whole series of assumptions about my comment… then resorted to knee-jerk name calling without addressing my basic question.

        Why are forensic investigations performed in all almost all mass murder cases except that one? I am just wondering… it seems odd.

        Looking at the state of the BBC Isn’t it possible, even likely, that in the aftermath of WW2 the media from the Allies side were using hysteria, hype and exaggeration to browbeat the Germans into submission using propaganda?.

        They are using lies today about Brexit, they were using lies about the Iraq war 20 years ago, they were using lies in the Lebanon war 40 years ago, but 60 years ago after WW2 the BBC and their ilk were little angels?

        If the BBC were lying, would they want to get found out?

        There is no doubt the Germans were persecuting Jewish people, and forcing then do do slave labour and they were put in terrible conditions in slave-labour camps, i have seen convincing evidence of that.

        But the there is something fishy going on when no one is allowed to research and revisit a subject even after 70 years… i don’t trust that the media report honestly now, and i don’t trust that they reported honestly then.

        Whats more is that Germans have been browbeat with this for 70 years… leading to some kind of pathological aulturism that will destroy Germany… and and Europe. If Germans are to be forever browbeat over that stuff I want to see solid evidence… after watching a bunch of videos, and researching this a host of things don’t add up.

        So maybe you can tell me maxincony, Why is the suggestion a sensible and sober evidence based investigation 70 years on, is so crazy?

        The Germans have been browbeat to the point that they are letting in boatloads of Muslims… who really are antisemitic. This is a religion which requires its followers to kill jews so that judgement day can come and so Muslims can transition from “torment in the grave” to Heaven,

        Islam is antisemitic. I don’t see questioning if the BBC helped to create propaganda following WW2 to browbeat the Germans in to submission, as antisemitic… because the BBC is not Jewish, its a publicly funded corporation that pumps out propaganda.

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  29. fakenewswatcher says:

    Five leaders at Augusta, but guess who is lurking just behind, getting the bbc sports newscaster reading the lunchtime s.news very, very excited?
    No sign of a leaderboard, which would have told us WHO is leading etc and how far the LURKER is behind.
    Just some piccies of him slipping. Most important available footage.
    No footage yet of him on the loo? Tsk, tsk, beeb…

    Aahh, and there is Eilidh Barbour. The Masters.
    And guess who we see first, cos he led for a brief time?
    The leaderboard at last.
    Nope, not in the top ten.
    Bernard Langer, also an oldie, gets a brief mention in one sentence.
    Tough Bernie.

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    • Luckyharry69 says:

      @fake
      I bought Sky sports for the week.£14.99.
      It is no different with their coverage.I have watched 8 hours so far…mostly adverts…and the rest was Woods.

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  30. theisland says:

    Ignored by the bBC

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    • Van Helsing says:

      Ah now, let’s be fair. There are obviously much more significant events to report, such as the assertion that a petulant, greedy, graceless, unfaithful multi-millionaire was nearly (NEARLY, even) injured whilst participating in a ‘sport’ in which he and fellow petulant, greedy, graceless rich people whack small spherical objects about a landscaped field…

      It’s enough to make you weep.

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  31. Richard Pinder says:

    Astronomers, Mensa Members and Richard Pinder, versus, Children, Naked Environmental Activists and David Attenborough.

    Ten years ago Astronomers knew that the key to whether Carbon Dioxide causes Global Warming or not, would be found if a formula worked for the Greenhouse effect on both Venus and Mars. An attempt using the assumed radiant heat absorption greenhouse effect on Mars of 3 Kelvin, transferred to Venus, failed, and the scientist concerned gave up on Venus. Then we had a German scientist who found out why, with the paper (Falsification Of The Atmospheric CO2 Greenhouse Effects Within The Frame Of Physics, Gerhard Gerlich, 2009).

    Then the paper (Unified Theory of Climate, Ned Nikolov & Karl Zeller, 2011) provided the formula that works for both Venus and Mars, proving that the atmospheric mass/gravity/pressure Greenhouse effect of James Clark Maxwell, found in 1888, is correct. Gravity pulling molecules downward producing the heat gradient. Therefore the climate sensitivity of CO2 is proven to be zero. As Donald Trump says “it’s a Hoax”

    http://hockeyschtick.blogspot.com/2014/05/maxwell-established-that-gravity.html

    I win, David Attenborough loses.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I caught the first episode of Attenborough’s new Netflix series the other day. Lovely photography, as ever but, Dear God, the propaganda.

      He’s really gone full ecoloon in his dotage, which is a shame as it can’t help but tarnish his back catalogue.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        When he pops his clogs it will be wall to wall national vicarious grief not seen since the x princess who was going to marry a Muslim ‘ in trade’ .

        Speaker Berkow sobbing , statues being commissioned , things being renamed – motorways , carparks, bridges and oil tankers …

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  32. Up2snuff says:

    BBC Picture Editors ‘avin’ a bih’ ofvha larf’?

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/health-47915400/yoga-eases-my-irritable-bowel-syndrome

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  33. vlad says:

    An op-ed in the bbc house journal, the Grauniad, illustrates the beeboids’ complete inability to grasp what’s going on outside the meeeja / academia Bubble. It’s useful to know one’s enemies, and how they think.

    “The fury of ‘white people’ with Jon Snow shows a total lack of self-awareness on race”

    They really don’t get it, do they?

    According to the writer, the anger expressed is not because whites (and Brexiteers) are fed up with being sneered at by the likes of Snow, and implicitly labelled as racists – no, it’s because “white people are not used to being marked out by race. Despite habitually racialising others, we generally don’t take well to being racialised ourselves” and more such sociology-speak drivel. The author apparently studied at Oxford and Cambridge universities amongst others, proving that you can be highly educated and understand nothing. In fact it’s becoming axiomatic that a ‘humanities’ education guarantees clever sounding stupidity.

    Oh, and here’s her picture, wearing a hijab – why am I not surprised? And in a bbc studio – why am I not surprised x2?

    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/apr/12/jon-snow-white-people-brexit-rally

    1800.jpg

    Myriam-Francois-Cerrah-British-Islam.jpg

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  34. vlad says:

    12007092-6898847-image-a-36_1554729910106.jpg

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    • gaxvil says:

      When we were invaded by the Romans – we had to do what they said.
      When we were invaded by the Vikings – we had to do what they said.
      When we were invaded by the Normans – we had to do what they said.
      Apparently we were invaded by the Muslims ?

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        gaxvil -Bill Warner will tell you why there is no ‘apparently’ about it: Political Islam.com Some interesting stuff on You Tube from him as well. Understands Totalitarianism as well.
        No, we don’t have to do what they say. Whatever the bbc/MSM may tell you. And if anyone invades our streets to pray, we need to distinguish: no problem with praying, a religious act; big problem with invasion of our streets, a political act.
        I’d like to think that we’re still a Christian country, or -at least- one shaped by Judeo-Christian culture and values, which -by our opting for secularism- has created a big spiritual vacuum in the UK and Europe. It is not yet too late to end the error of our ways…
        But we need to emerge from our slumbers.

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        • Not Gwent says:

          “I’d like to think that we’re still a Christian country”

          The head of state is also head of the church. Bishops sit as of right in an ‘upper’ legislative chamber.

          Yet this mostly feels like an anachronism. Much legislation doesn’t even originate here.

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          • fakenewswatcher says:

            Not Gwent – It is an anachronism.
            A purely personal view: a church is a gathering of Christian believers, no more; bishops and elders (biblical titles according someone a SPIRITUAL ‘rank’ in such a gathering) etc have no particular status in which worldly power plays a role. It is also not a particular building or place. (The idea of ‘going to church’ confuses us).
            In fact, all those fancy hierarchies with fancy robes and funny hats, are purely man-made. Things started going wrong at the Council of Nicea, and -for us- Henry VIII gave them a little nudge. There is a church natural and there is a church spiritual. Big difference.
            I speak of a system, I do not judge any particular individual. The bishops in the Upper House do not impress me (in any spiritual sense). Come to think of it, neither does anyone else there.
            And -of late- one has to wonder about the Lower House too…

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        • john in cheshire says:

          Jesus warned us about those who pray in public. That was centuries before the muslim cult ever existed.

             12 likes

  35. Richard Pinder says:

    Censored by the BBC.

    22,000 soldiers roared out a warning to Theresa May, bringing Westminster Bridge in London to a standstill. Another 3,500 troops, held in readiness for Operation Redfold, located in a nuclear-proof bunker named Pindar, deep underground below the Ministry of Defence’s Whitehall building, are now well placed to purge Parliament and overthrow Theresa May.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful
      Thank for the article – I hadn’t read it before .the BBC likened to an alcoholic – which can lead to a short life .
      I just believe that beeboids broadcast for their bubble now and becoming more detached from the punters they look down on so much .

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  36. StewGreen says:

    Just back from a Leave march

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  37. theisland says:

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  38. vlad says:

    Oxford University researchers have discovered the densest element yet known to science.
    The new element, Governmentium (symbol=Gv), has one neutron, 25 assistant neutrons, 88 deputy neutrons and 198 assistant deputy neutrons, giving it an atomic mass of 312.
    These 312 particles are held together by forces called morons, which are surrounded by vast quantities of lepton-like particles called pillocks.
    Since Governmentium has no electrons, it is inert. However, it can be detected, because it impedes every reaction with which it comes into contact.
    A tiny amount of Governmentium can cause a reaction that would normally take less than a second, to take from 4 days to 4 years to complete.
    Governmentium has a normal half-life of 2 to 6 years.
    It does not decay, but instead undergoes a reorganisation in which a portion of the assistant neutrons and deputy neutrons exchange places.
    In fact, Governmentium’s mass will actually increase over time, since each reorganisation will cause more morons to become neutrons, forming isodopes.
    This characteristic of moron promotion leads some scientists to believe that Governmentium is formed whenever morons reach a critical concentration.
    This hypothetical quantity is referred to as a critical morass.
    When catalysed with money, Governmentium becomes Administratium (symbol=Ad), an element that radiates just as much energy as Governmentium, since it has half as many pillocks but twice as many morons.

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  39. john in cheshire says:

    This is one of the saddest reports I have heard in a long time. It’s about 12 minutes long and the subject is the suicide, yes suicide, of a nine year old white boy.

    When his mother went to the school to complain about the bullying that caused this boy to take his own life, the teacher told her ” you didn’t have to come to this school”.

    That’s the depths of depravity in the educational system caused by the marxist swamp that infests our schools:

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  40. Guest Who says:

    Trouble in paradise.

       21 likes

    • Demon says:

      Campbell has hardly been off our screens recently and is never criticised despite the hate-filled rubbish he pushes.

         9 likes

      • taffman says:

        Demon
        Who voted for Campbell ?
        Why does he have so much say in the media? What’s all this about the “Dodgy Dossier”?
        maxincony , can you help us on this one ?

           8 likes

  41. Guest Who says:

    If Rog tried to be any cuter he’d turn into Pikachoo.

       8 likes

  42. Guest Who says:

    Paul trying to out-cute Rog now.

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  43. theisland says:

    Chortle, chortle – aren’t we clever.

    https://thebrexitparty.com

    https://thebrexitparty.org

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    • Kaiser says:

      thebrexitparty.com

      .com just another extension nowadays , mostly associated as being equivalent to .us as opposed to .uk etc

      apart from that cyber squatting is now technically illegal nowadays

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  44. Skeldings says:

    A revealing little vignette on R4’s Any Questions, to which I still subject myself on a Saturday (I know, I know).

    Nicky Morgan had persistently (whether deliberately or otherwise) mispronounced Gerard Batten’s Christian name, repeatedly referring to him as “Gerald” Batten. When Mr Batten finally corrected her, Mrs Morgan, instead of the courteous apology that one would expect from a Conservative lady, merely uttered the ubiquitous and annoying determiner “whatever”, in the manner and tone of an adolescent who has been gently chided about some minor misdemeanour but cannot bring itself to tear its attention away from a mobile telephone screen.

    It being a radio programme I could not, of course, see, but it would not have surprised me had Mrs Morgan accompanied this dismissive rejoinder with a contemptuous toss of her lustrous mane.

    It appears that not only is there very little about Mrs Morgan that is Conservative, there is very little about her that is lady-like.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Skeldings – being interested in ‘Any Answers’ (I know, I know) I only caught the last few minutes of this programme. Dumbleby couldn’t resist the temptation to have a little virtue-signalling dig at Gerard about the area in which he lived/ would like to live.
      It was oh so predictable, and it contained that little sneer…

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    • Demon says:

      He should have retaliated by calling her Nicholas repeatedly.

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  45. ScottishCalvin says:

    A doodle on the Assange arrest

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  46. gaxvil says:

    Let’s hear it again shall we ? Oh but we will ad infinitum.
    “We know Brexit doesn’t work/can’t work – it has been shown /it has been been proved.”
    We have not left so how do they/we know it doesn’t work ?

    Fools and scoundrels abound.

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  47. taffman says:

    \\’Biggest’ UK tulip grower stockpiles bulbs over Brexit//
    Its gone from “Project Fear” to “Project Ridiculous”. Even the ‘snowflakes’ are not impressed.
    Nice try Al Beeb – must do better.

    Can you imagine the headlines “Great Britain Surrenders under threat of no Tulips from Amsterdam”
    Our ancestors would be ashamed of us now . Freedom is hard won but is easily given away.

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