469 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 8 April 2019

  1. Halifax says:

    At Last at last !! The BBC shows a couple on its BBC homepage and they are hetrosexual ! Hang on a minute are you sitting down ?? They are WHITE !! Wow at last they recognise that couples arent always BME man white women or same sex. A victory at last……hang on a minute the storys about DIVORCE …….see only white hetrosexual couples have relationship issues…….should have checked before wasting my time with this post.

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    • Dystopian says:

      I guess divorce isn’t as popular with some people. Maybe stoning to death for adultery more so.

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      • gaxvil says:

        No, no, no, – stoning is far too much hassle. Say three times, ‘I divorce you’. Job done.

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        • Up2snuff says:

          gax, does that work with the EU?

          Can I do it?

          Or is it just the PM? Or Queen?

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          • gaxvil says:

            Under Islam (has to be the right sort of Islam) you can. You don’t even need to be in the same country.

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            • Up2snuff says:

              yes, gaxvil, that’s right.

              I think I was trying to make a point while lightening the gloom somewhat.

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              So, that’s a fail then?

              🙁

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Maybe Hali, its because more black and mixed race couples are less inclined to be married in the first place ! Its always been a ‘given’ that black fathers are less likely to settle down and are more prevalent to doing a runner on their numerous offspring than a white father.

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  2. Eddy Booth says:


    Amazing the BBC hasn’t jumped on this story like all the other far left outlets.
    Whom are basically calling
    ”cultural insensitivity” and “racism” for diminishing the tradition of eating with the utensils.
    Clearly if anyone is being riduculed it’s the ‘white’ folk thinking they need chop sticks to eat the new Vietnamese Sweet Chilli Tendercrisp burger.

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    • Kaiser says:

      never mind burger king doing a bit of cultural appropriation surprised they missed that bit

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  3. Dover Sentry says:

    1922 Committee Advises May To Resign :

    “”The Telegraph reports that Theresa May is facing demands to stand down immediately after senior Tory backbenchers told her that she was now “the problem”.

    The paper says officials from the 1922 Committee met the prime minister in Downing Street on Monday and warned her that the mood among party supporters had turned against her over the weekend.

    Sources have told the paper that Mrs May “sat in stony silence and refused to discuss her future”.

    According to the Guardian, Tory MPs are submitting a fresh batch of letters expressing no confidence in Mrs May – even though, under party rules, they cannot challenge her until December.

    But, the paper adds, they hope the number of letters will be so great that they can’t be ignored.”” “”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-47861864

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    • gaxvil says:

      May, Corbyn ? People support Corbyn, they want the the EU as, ‘a supra-national organization dedicated to upholding workers’ rights’. Like Jack the Ripper was dedicated to addressing the evils of the sex industry.Problem being Corbyn wants Brexit in order to be able to launch his Marxist dream.
      Only Remainers are supporting May because they think she’ll destroy Brexit.
      And finally, what makes Remainers think they would win a second Referendum? The bbc propaganda machine?

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    • Dave S says:

      MY Tory MP is quite open about May. He wants her gone and cares not who knows it. So I assume the party locally does as well since he is a long serving MP. I cannot understand why she is still there.

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  4. NISA says:

    That B*****d Trump again? BBC headline
    US proposes tariffs on $11bn of EU products
    Completely unwarranted unilateral action by Trump, perhaps?
    But read on …
    The US is considering imposing tariffs on about $11bn (£8.4bn) worth of goods from the European Union in response to subsidies that support Airbus.
    The World Trade Organization (WTO) has found that the subsidies have an adverse impact on the US.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47862622

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    • Dave S says:

      This might be connected to the 737 problem . That is so serious it could finish Boeing. The plane is useless.

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      • gaxvil says:

        I heard yesterday we need the EU to protect us from the likes of China, Russia and Trump. Unbelievable.

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  5. theisland says:

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Grenfell fraudster #13 was jailed on March 29
    4 more awaiting conviction

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    • Thoughtful says:

      One of the things a decent right of centre government could do is to begin deporting people like this. Even if they are born here to immigrant parents it is legal to deport them. If Germany can do it then why can’t we?

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    • vesnadog says:

      “Moses Ettiene”

      What puzzels me is how does the Taxation Dept know one Patel from another Patel? Not only do they look like each other they also look at us white boys like each other.

      P.S. I think that white male/female taxi drivers no longer exist in my area of the jungle anymore.

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  7. StewGreen says:

    Local radio news item this morning
    “And over to Dave who organised the sleepout last night , to raise money for homeless projects..did you get much sleep Dave ?”
    Dave ” No not really , we had an hour of the busker and then films all night, cos we had under 18s, health and safety meant that we couldn’t do the sleepOUT outside we did it INSIDE the community centre instead”

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, snowflakes?

      In Lincolnshire?

      Yesterday evening?

      Was that forecast?

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  8. fakenewswatcher says:

    Mirth was in store on R4 at lunchtime when Feltham Young Offender’s came up for debate. We weren’t disappointed.
    Poor darlings had to put up with non-matching chairs, who can blame them for smashing in a few faces?
    All that’s wrong with ‘the authorities’, laid out in one discussion.

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    • RobRoy says:

      I laughed when I heard that. I’d just left a trendy coffee shop where all the chairs don’t match. So Feltham is now ‘shabby-chic’ now?

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Fake
      The prison minister – a mouthpiece the PM uses to justify the unjustiable with regard to Brexit – Rory `Stewart – swore that he’d resign if prison violence didn’t reduce yoy up to August .

      He ll find a way out using `remainer techniques but one never knows . Actually – as I’ve been writing this – who could give a Damn about politicians – with the exceptions of a very very few … a number small that the Chelsea squad ..

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  9. StewGreen says:

    Sun : Foreign criminal allowed to stay after judge rules membership of notorious London gang shows ‘integration into society’

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I’m surprise the blackmailing ‘mohammed’ who did computer classes to extort cash from people using porn sites hadn’t featured here yet .
      He got 6 years but I bet he’s working for TV licensing by now .

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      • vesnadog says:

        Fed,

        “He got 6 years but I bet he’s working for TV licensing by now .”

        Even worse, the CIA.

        CIA will even find any non-licence payer in any run of the mill African jungle – BBC can’t afford to go that far. Well, they can – but they need that little extra for Gary Lineker, and his running mate Lilly Allen.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Is this yet another migrant who came to the UK with just £5 in his pocket, as so many are, from Billy Butlin onwards – well according to our national press anyway.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Was the judge ‘of Turkish extraction ‘ or just bought a big new house by chance ….?’

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      • RJ says:

        “Was the judge ‘of Turkish extraction ‘ or just bought a big new house by chance ….?”

        There was a time when asking that question would have been a joke. Now it’s a request for information.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The judge was called Evan Ruth – who has previous for working for the UN Refugee Agency . The defence for this third world gangster must have as happy as Mo when they heard who the judge was .

      I wonder if the listing office at the court is bent ?

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Re Attenborough’s Netflix d ramatic scene
    ‘walruses driven to throw themselves off cliffs by Climate Change”
    GWPF has a debunk out carried by the Daily Mail
    .. Was your footage filmed in Siberia in 2017 ?”
    Team Att “yes it was ”
    GWPF ..”near Ryrkaipyi village ?”
    … tumbleweed
    https://mailchi.mp/6aae1038911f/press-releasepublic-are-being-misled-by-attenboroughs-new-netflix-show-174041
    Cos in 2017 there was this story

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  11. gaxvil says:

    Breaking News – Labour and Conservative have stated that they have an agreement for instituting a Chinese Vote. That’s one choice and one tick box.

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  12. Dover Sentry says:

    Davis Gauke facing vote of No Confidence:

    “”We’ve had sight of the petition with the requisite 50 members of the South West Hertfordshire Conservative Association amassed to force a confidence vote in David Gauke. The group’s leaders met with Gauke over the weekend, hoping to change his mind on ruling out No Deal, instead they came away resigned to the conclusion that Gauke “will never be in favour of anything other than a Customs Union.” They are reluctantly proceeding with their deselection push…””

    https://order-order.com/

    The Empire is Stiking Back…

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    • gaxvil says:

      The Rebel Alliance surely.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Dover
      the soon to be defunct Tory HQ will try to invalidate votes to protect their boy .

      It’s funny how – when the likes of Grieve , cooper , letwin – use procedure to undermine democracy – including a corrupt speaker and a labour MP wearing a ‘price’ tag – that’s ok – it’s in keeping with precedent – together with rushing a constitutional bill through the upper waste of space . The shame and dishonour is beyond belief .

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  13. StewGreen says:

    Remember how Marr screamed at Gisela Stuart to apologize and she didn’t
    we guessed one main reason would be the ongoing appeal.
    Now the appeal result has come in and the fine reduced is the BBC shouting ?
    https://order-order.com/2019/04/08/leave-eu-fines-reduced-appeal/

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  14. RobRoy says:

    Dr Hadiza Bawa-Garba: Struck-off doctor can return to work – https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-47859826

    I wonder which card she played first to get the decision overturned?

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    • gaxvil says:

      Err, common misunderstanding. The term ‘Struck Off’ doesn’t mean you can never practice again. It’ s more a suspension while the Doctor undergoes re-training or practice is limited and/or supervised.

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  15. Guest Who says:

    This cropped up earlier. Seems a BBC fave…. now on R4, home of many a….?

    Bet Bowie wishes FB had been around in his day.

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    • vesnadog says:

      G,

      And to think that these days these two girls (above) are the new breed of up and coming babysitters of our children.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Leeds ongoing court case : a teenager who wanted to be a mass killer, Hitler was referenced so I guess they will shout far-right
    However he used the book “Anarchist’s Corner” for his bomb making planning
    .. case continues

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  17. gaxvil says:

    “Trump Threatens 11 billion dollars in Tariffs On EU Goods”.

    So we’ll need to be in the Euro army to defend against America.
    We can be cannon fodder for the Franco Prussian alliance – I imagine May is signing up top that as we speak.

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    • theisland says:

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  18. StewGreen says:

    Facebook can act within existing laws against wrongdoing
    \\ Facebook has deleted a post by a group of animal rights extremists who were publicising personal details of game farms around the UK, following direct pressure from the Countryside Alliance. //
    comment ..is legal
    doxxing … is not legal, cos it’s intimidation
    https://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/news/opinion/how-countryside-alliance-took-on-might-of-facebook-and-won-over-online-extremists-and-vigilantes-jack-knott-1-9699610

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  19. StewGreen says:

    11:05pm BBC 1 repeat from 2017
    My Big Gay Jewish Conversion

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  20. Annunaki says:

    Animals do not even behave like this lot:

    ISIS ‘morality policewoman’ who ‘let chained-up Yazidi slave girl die of thirst in scorching Iraqi sun’ covers her face in German court where Amal Clooney will represent the victim’s mother

    The woman, named as Jennifer Wenisch, 27, was a ‘morality policewoman’
    Prosecutors say she and her husband purchased a Yazidi child and her mother
    They reportedly kept the two women captive and treated them brutally
    Wenisch is facing life in jail for war crimes, murder, and membership of ISIS
    Celebrity lawyer Amal Clooney is representing the Yazidi girl’s mother

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6902415/ISIS-morality-policewoman-covers-face-appears-German-court.html

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  21. StewGreen says:

    The BBC’s Director of Education in Salford, Sinead Rocks has been appointed as the new Managing Director, Nations & Regions for Channel 4 in Leeds

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    • john in cheshire says:

      So, she’s moving from one state propaganda machine to another.
      That’s unusual. Will she be paid the minimum wage?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Does make one wonder why there should be two state broadcasters with the same biased political stance doesn’t it ?

        Could start to save Money by closing C4.

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  22. Annunaki says:

    “Men” again:

    What do they all have in common ? we await the condemnation from the BBc et al …… and asking questions how many more rapists from this religion specifically and exclusively are loose in this country

    Nine men plead not guilty to a string of historical rape and trafficking charges against a teenage girl from Sheffield

    Usman Din, 34, is charged with three counts of rape and is the only defendant facing a trafficking charge.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6902843/Nine-men-plead-not-guilty-string-historical-rape-trafficking-charges-against-teenager.html

    Tony Ejoune, 60, Shangar Ibrahimi, 29, Kawan Omar Ahmed, 29, and Saman Mohammed, 40, all face one count of rape.

    Farhad Mirzaie, 29, is charged with two counts of rape and Jasim Mohammed, 36, faces three counts of rape.

    Nzar Anwar, 39 is charged with one count of rape and, along with Saba Mohammed, 40, faces one count of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.
    Two men, Kamaran Mahmoodi, 39, and Soran Ali Karim, 43, are both accused of rape but failed to appear at Sheffield Magistrates Court last month.

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    • Van Helsing says:

      Has anyone done a tally of known victims of muslim grooming and rape gangs? Or would that be frowned upon in the interests of diversity?

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    • Van Helsing says:

      Has anyone done a proper statistical analysis of the number, ethnicity and faith of the known (i.e. proven) victims of grooming and rape gangs and carried out a similar exercise re. the number, ethnicity and faith of their abusers? Or would that be frowned upon in the interests of diversity?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Van
        It’s a bit too right wing for a lot of criminologists to touch so it might well be that a foreign research project would deliver the goods

        Same with knife crime . Same with the tired old question as to why there are so many non white vermin in prison . That one doesn’t get asked much any more as the answer in in the newspapers every day .

        The Home Office Research Department used to be really hot on the analysis of crime but I suspect it’s diminished these days – Particularly since May had control of it .
        Never one to rock the boat – Mrs May. When Blighty needed a strong leader – we got her .

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Van
        I checked on the Home Office site and the answer is that there is no government research on Pakistani paedo rape gangs or knife crime ( hush – don’t look ) .

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  23. StewGreen says:

    Another Brendan Cox-like lefty charity scandal
    38 Degrees was founded in memory of Anita Roddick,
    They’ve just sacked their boss David Babbs.

    Babbs was formerly Head of Activism at Friends of the Earth where he was responsible for the Big Ask Campaign.
    In April 2019 it was reported that Babbs had been dismissed from his position as Executive Director following an internal investigation which found that he had given drugs including cocaine and ketamine to other staff members at office social events.
    A separate investigation was underway into allegations of bullying.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/04/04/founder-campaign-group-38-degrees-sacked-giving-drugs-younger/

    Last year it funded the Trump Baby balloon, which was flown in protest at the president’s official visit to the United Kingdom in July.

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    • StewGreen says:

      DM

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  24. gaxvil says:

    Begging knees to Germany and France.
    Never did I think I’d witness that.
    The lion is weak and sick – time for the jackals.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Gaxvil
      I have been limiting my BBC listening but just heard on R4 that May and her bast..rd colleagues are grovelling for a long extension…
      the lion has 400 thorns in its feet….I am saddened more than I can say to see this once great country on its knees begging to the EU…
      To see the once admired HoP and seat of democracy swept aside by these self important thorns…
      Bring on an election and the BREXIT party – start with MEP elections lets get them in and ignore any rules they try to put in place for the UK to stop EU business..
      I wish I knew what to do to fight this affront to over half the population..ideas anyone

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      • countryblues says:

        What do the peeps on this forum wish/hope for?

        If I can’t have ‘No Deal’… and ‘May’s Deal’ or any other ‘Even Worse Deal’ I find unacceptable…then what? A long extension seems preferable to me at the mo’…meanwhile let’s have a GE. If the people prove to be too apathetic to vote for alternative parties such as UKIP or the Brexit Party, then we get what we deserve… 🙁

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Country
          I’m guessing yours is a rhetorical question .

          I for one voted to leave – nothing about a deal . Nothing about the ECJ having residual authority . Than simple . Tell em we re going and then negotiate a post event trade deal under WTO .

          I don’t accept that I get the government I deserve . Nor would I accept criticism of the way I choose to demonstrate my displeasure of what politicians are doing in mine and the name of over 17 million others .

          What I can’t understand is why Farage worked so hard to get to the Referendum and then stood back .

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          • countryblues says:

            Not a rhetorical question…I’m genuinely interested 🙂

            I agree that we don’t get what we deserve…that was just an expression on my part.

            Your points were valid for what should have happened…but given the situation at this very moment, what’s the best we can hope for?

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            • Fedup2 says:

              Country
              The best we can hope for can’t be written down here .

              The politicians have made laws which make them safe for another 3 years . With 500 remainer MPs and a so called ‘upper house ‘ full of remainers no Brexiter PM will come into turn around the stance taken by May and her soon (3 years ) to be extinct Party . They’ll assume the public will forget and forgive in that time but I for one won’t .

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              • RJ says:

                In the meantime I’d be interested to see a graph for monthly UK sales of German made cars. Most of the people I know think that Germany controls the EU and whilst most of their anger is aimed at British politicians what is left is aimed at the Germans. I’m sure that the remainers will continue to buy their Mercedes and BMWs, but I wouldn’t like to be a VW dealer.

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        • Roland Deschain says:

          The Houses of Parliament reduced to rubble.

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    • JimS says:

      Aslan Britain willingly submits to the Witch Mrs. May, taking the consequence for Edmund’s Cameron’s treachery. Aslan Britain is bound, shaved and slain at the Stone EU table.
      The Lion UK, The Witch PM and the Wardrobe Cabinet

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  25. StewGreen says:

    Hull \\ A party gatecrasher who stabbed a teenager in the stomach has been jailed for 10 years.
    Sheryar Nawaz attack left his 19-year-old victim’s intestines hanging out – and needed major bowel surgery after a Halloween party in 2017. //
    The Yorkshire Post has a special box
    ‘Nawaz’s family subject to a plethora of racist abuse from unsavoury people’ says his lawyer Abdul Iqbal

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    • Annunaki says:

      Unsavoury people ? hmm a subjective judgement, see below, a selection from one day in our “diverse” wonderland:

      Nine men plead not guilty to a string of historical rape and trafficking charges against a teenage girl from Sheffield
      Usman Din, 34, is charged with three counts of rape and is the only defendant facing a trafficking charge.

      https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6902843/Nine-men-plead-not-guilty-string-historical-rape-trafficking-charges-against-teenager.html

      Tony Ejoune, 60, Shangar Ibrahimi, 29, Kawan Omar Ahmed, 29, and Saman Mohammed, 40, all face one count of rape.

      Farhad Mirzaie, 29, is charged with two counts of rape and Jasim Mohammed, 36, faces three counts of rape.

      Nzar Anwar, 39 is charged with one count of rape and, along with Saba Mohammed, 40, faces one count of conspiracy to pervert the course of justice.
      Two men, Kamaran Mahmoodi, 39, and Soran Ali Karim, 43, are both accused of rape but failed to appear at Sheffield Magistrates Court last month.

      ISIS ‘morality policewoman’ who ‘let chained-up Yazidi slave girl die of thirst in scorching Iraqi sun’ covers her face in German court where Amal Clooney will represent the victim’s mother

      The woman, named as Jennifer Wenisch, 27, was a ‘morality policewoman’
      Prosecutors say she and her husband purchased a Yazidi child and her mother
      They reportedly kept the two women captive and treated them brutally
      Wenisch is facing life in jail for war crimes, murder, and membership of ISIS

      Obsessed former husband, 51, spent a year amassing cache of weapons then camped in ex-wife’s shed and killed her with crossbow while eight months pregnant with new lover’s baby, court hears

      Ramanodge Unmathallegadoo is accused of murdering his ex-wife Devi
      The pregnant 35-year-old was shot with a crossbow as she did the washing up
      Unmathallegadoo ‘gathered an arsenal of deadly weapons after their break-up’
      Armed with ‘two crossbows, bolts, hammer, knife, cable ties and duct tape’

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    • Van Helsing says:

      “Unsavoury people”

      Like the sort of person who guts someone with a knife and leaves their entrails hanging out?

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  26. Fedup2 says:

    The Remainer Bubble technique of wearing sane people down with attempts to stop brexit have got to me . I was following quite closely –

    But I no longer understand what can be achieved by longer extensions . If the agreed sell out won’t get through Parliament and the EU won’t renegotiate – then why ask for – or grant – an A50 extension . Just Leave – no deal.

    I’m hoping Macron will do this but I’m sure he’s still after our money.

    And 3 months to the 75th Anniversary of D Day … what a celebration that will be …

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Fedup2

      I have just joined Brexit party..its my only line of sane defence…we just need to hope Brexiteers turn out for MEP votes so we can stuff them from the inside…

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        Same here.

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        • Fedup2 says:

          I can’t trust any Political party but I will see if any one remotely deserves an X

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        • gaxvil says:

          Wry smile time y’all – talk of conditions for a long extension such as we’ll behave, keep quiet and vote for what we’re told. Oh and pay them a few billions of course.
          And would they still be thinking of locking some rubbish deal in law so it may NEVER EVER be changed ?
          Sounds foolproof.
          Meanwhile talk of bodyguards for Euro Candidates because tensions and anger are running high on both sides.

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      • Luckyharry69 says:

        @James
        I made a donation…haven’t joined yet though

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        • Annunaki says:

          Just joined, takes 2 minutes, hope everyone who cares does the same, this man is vilified by the MSM for some reason as others are for telling the truth which should concern everyone who has eyes to see

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  27. Annunaki says:

    It is precisely that…wear people down until they are tired and just give up, we can only use the local elections as a protest vote that is the only language they understand, euro environmental legislation started after the Green party gained 15 % of the vote in Germany and they all started campaigning on the same platform as a result, we can only vote for UKIP wherever they stand to send our message

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  28. StewGreen says:

    The story : Jaguar Land Rover starts Brexit shutdown
    … is in it’s 27th hour of HYS
    The Remain-bots failed to win
    so their comments dominate lowest rated
    They get barely 210 upvotes
    whereas Brexiteer ones get 270+
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-47845057

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  29. Annunaki says:

    After years of co-operation between the national Green parties, they formed a pan-European alliance that unites most European Green parties. The Greens are a party within the European parliament with 46 seats, as of June 2009. It has a long-standing alliance with the European Free Alliance (EFA), an alliance of “stateless nations”, such as the Welsh nationalist Plaid Cymru and Scottish National Party. Together European Green Party/EFA have 58 seats and they are the fourth largest party in the European Parliament

    Manifesto: The Green Party recognises the contributions made by many migrants to their recipient area or community. We value the cultural diversity and intercultural awareness resulting from both temporary residence and migration.

    Migration policies should not discriminate directly on grounds of race, colour, religion, political belief, disability, sex or sexual orientation. Preference should not be given to those with resources or desirable skills.

    We will work to achieve greater equity between the UK and non-Western countries. In step with this, we will progressively reduce UK immigration controls.

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  30. Annunaki says:

    UK Green Party:
    Short-term Policies
    Immigration Law

    MG400 We will replace existing British Immigration law with an Immigration law which does not discriminate directly on the grounds listed above (see MG205). This law will be based on the principle of fair and prompt treatment of applicants rather than on excluding dishonest applicants whatever the cost to the honest ones. We will consult widely with affected groups to ensure that features of the current law which are of concern to them are addressed.

    MG401 We will allow the partners, prospective partners, immediate families and prospective families of British residents to join them without excessive delays or unreasonable requirements for proof of relationship. This will be independent of the financial status of the resident and will not be dependent on her/him providing accommodation (We recognise that this must be implemented in association with a housing policy).

    MG402 A person’s right to stay will not be linked to that of partners or families but will be independent. Families will not be divided by deportation unless the deportee poses a serious danger to public safety.

    MG403 We will allow the victims of past errors in immigration decisions to come to the UK where these decisions have resulted in continuing serious deprivation.

    MG404 Migrants illegally in the UK for over five years will be allowed to remain unless they pose a serious danger to public safety.

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    • Annunaki says:

      Green party ambition for this country:

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Thank you for posting the research Annunaki,
      I have no intention of voting for the greens in the upcoming local elections but my choice is severely limited to:
      Lab, Con, Con, Con, Green.

      Just reading about protest voting here,
      http://www.votenone.org.uk/protest_votes_count.html

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      • Annunaki says:

        You are welcome, I hope it goes someway to explaining the influence in Europe over open immigration and some peoples twisted ideals of dstroying their own countries religion, laws and heritage and allowing an intolerant racist sexist homophobic minority to dominate, which they are already doing through a co ordinated email campaign threatening the media OFSTED inspectors, school headmasters, and anyone elses they can threaten, bully issue death threats etc. etc.

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        • Annunaki says:

          I would ask anyone on this forum, we have so many millions of immigrants in this country from China (my wifes country) south east asia India etc. etc. all living in harmony, where the F is their voice on the BBC when we have bloody muslims and their whingeing and complaining agenda every bloody day ?????
          THINK about it …. Chinese new year ALL welcome in all China towns to celebrate together

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  31. Annunaki says:

    MG440 We will encourage periods of temporary residence in the UK and abroad, particularly by young people, to promote intercultural awareness.

    MG441 We will encourage local authorities to take account of family union requirements of their residents in allocating public housing, independent of the current location of the other family members.

    MG442 The Green Party will recognise the contribution of migrants and people of colour to the UK by making the 1st Monday on or after 22nd June, Windrush Day, a public holiday.

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  32. StewGreen says:

    Lammy tweets a BBC story
    \\ The Belgian head of research at Ofsted who has worked in the UK for more than 20 years has been rejected today for settled status.
    The way our government is treating the @the3million
    Europeans in the UK is disgraceful and will hurt us for years to come. //
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47853438

    JHB replies

    The 4th line of BBC article
    The Home Office says he has not been “refused”, but more information needs to be supplied.
    “This case has not been refused. We would encourage the applicant to make contact with the Settlement Resolution Centre, who will be able to assist him with his application,” said a Home Office spokesman.
    The system seems to have to know if you’ve been resident fore more than than five years
    and sometimes its “automatic checks against government data” mean you don’t have to send in evidence.
    … That’s why the prof thinks he’s been refused.

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  33. Annunaki says:

    Not much of an academic then is he ? isn’t a basic understanding of the English language a requirement ? not within the Eurozone it seems, but ask my Chinese wife about all the certificates she needs to supply to prove she can handle the language and compare and contrast with our beeg eeshue sellers free to come over here and beg on our streets and threaten the genuine UK homeless

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  34. Annunaki says:

    Around 45,000 immigrants have fraudulently obtained English language certificates, ministers will admit later today.

    James Brokenshire, the Immigration Minister, will make an urgent statement to the Commons on the results of an investigation into allegations that fraudsters were sitting language tests on behalf of migrants.

    Around 45,000 people fraudulently obtained language certificates despite being unable to speak English, sources said.

    In February the Home Office suspended English language tests used to award student visas run by ETS, a major testing firm. An investigation was launched to establish the scale of any wrong-doing.

    It followed secret filming by Panorama that showed candidates for tests set by ETS were being replaced by fake sitters from immigration consultancies in exchange for fees of up to £500 – three times the official cost of the test.
    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10922091/45000-immigrants-cheated-English-tests.html

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  35. Dystopian says:

    Free speech is now a thing of the past…

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Dystopian,
      @ 35:00 mins “Israeli PM pandering to far right ethno-nationalist extreme national front Jewish organisations that he is allied with” “annexing the west bank” “Golan land grabs” “Netanyahu desperate to stay in power”

      THAT is disinformation.

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  36. Thoughtful says:

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  37. Luckyharry69 says:

    Ive subscribed to Sky Sports for this week with a view to watching some football and the Masters (yes I know golf its a nasty Patriachal ‘middle class/elitist/sexist/misogynist’ white mans sport …bla bla bla bla)

    I havent watched Sky for years and used to subscribe…….so what a surprise I find they have become just like the Main Stream Media BBC ITV and terrestrial…..and the adverts have woman and mixed race couples in abundance……..

    the football tonight has a token woman on the panel?…..Why?….there is no EQUIVALENCY.
    Phil Thompson played in a European Cup Final.the other two men were top class internationals?……so we need a woman to commentate?…….its so insulting. Im amazed the men actually agree to presenting with her…

    suffice to say I wish I hadnt bothered wasting £14.99 now.

    I’m absolutely sick of this Liberal Intersectionality left wing BS……Rant Over…………..

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Lucky
      You should be ashamed of yourself for giving money to Sky . I recorded the saga as to why I left Sky and why I don’t think they’d ever ring me up to rejoin again …
      I get some free footy with BT which seems fair enough but for some reason they are not doing the Leyton Orient v Eastleigh games tonight – instead it’s another local North London team .

      As for the adverts – do you notice it’s always black men and white Wimmin ? Where are the Chinese? Indians ? Other racial mismatches ?

      Those advertising kids must sit on their bean bags unable to dare to think differently .

      While I’m ranting – do you notice there arnt any ‘ funny ‘ adverts anymore ? With a caveat that I don’t really see ITV anymore – are there funny adverts ?

      ( don’t include ‘ simples’)

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      • Annunaki says:

        I can only repeat what I said above, absolutely disgusted by the BBC ingnoring of the 85% indigenous population and other MILLIONS of immigrants in this country and an obsession with muslims until it comes to numerous MUSLIM rape gangs in every city and town of our country, a peadphilic sexist racist sex crime that no other immigrant population in this country indulges in

        I would ask anyone on this forum, WHY ? we have so many millions of immigrants in this country from China (my wifes country) south east asia India etc. etc. all living in harmony, where the F is their voice on the BBC when we have bloody muslims and their whingeing and complaining agenda every bloody day yet no mention of their favourite crime: gang rape ?
        THINK about it …. Chinese new year ALL welcome in all China towns to celebrate together, muslim ghettos watch your back if you are white and christian or God help you if you are jewish

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      • Luckyharry69 says:

        @Fed
        Yes you are right……I only want to watch the live golf this week…but I just dont want women on a football panel or womens internationals mixed in with top class mens football……its beyond ridiculous

        My question is where on earth are we going with all this?………

        (havent watched ITV for 25 years?…seriously)

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        • Fedup2 says:

          Lucky
          Well multiculturalism means fragmentation and no integration
          Fragmentation means trouble
          Trouble means violence
          Violence escalates and maybe becomes more ‘ tribal ‘
          Particularly if competition becomes more intense – for instance in recession .
          There is a remedy but not in the foreseeable future – certainly not when state policy is multiculturalism aided by the state broadcaster .

          At least the Americans have a bill of rights and a flag as a reference . We ain’t got nuffin .

          It’s a well worn path but nothing happens

          Easy stuff to start with – encourage integration through forcing guest workers and third worlders to learn the language – when I say ‘ force ‘ use the benefits system to ‘ encourage’ – no multi lingual leaflets produced by the tax payer . Non UK passport holders would need to carry an i d card or be locked up subject to deportation . Big job but not for this decade …

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          • Annunaki says:

            Speakers corner, our democratic right taken over:

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          • Annunaki says:

            ERR repeat myself again, :

            Around 45,000 immigrants have fraudulently obtained English language certificates, ministers will admit later today.

            James Brokenshire, the Immigration Minister, will make an urgent statement to the Commons on the results of an investigation into allegations that fraudsters were sitting language tests on behalf of migrants.

            Around 45,000 people fraudulently obtained language certificates despite being unable to speak English, sources said.

            In February the Home Office suspended English language tests used to award student visas run by ETS, a major testing firm. An investigation was launched to establish the scale of any wrong-doing.

            It followed secret filming by Panorama that showed candidates for tests set by ETS were being replaced by fake sitters from immigration consultancies in exchange for fees of up to £500 – three times the official cost of the test.
            https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/immigration/10922091/45000-immigrants-cheated-English-tests.html

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  38. G says:

    Whilst I have always enjoyed Dr Steve Turley’s videos, I think of him as being a little over optimistic in his anaylsis of World current affairs. However, and assuming he’s correct on the research (I have not found him wanting previously), those slightly ‘down’ with Brexit will take heart on this short video:

    Enjoy!

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  39. Fedup2 says:

    Ezra Levant put footage on twitter , as a reminder ,of why ISIS supporters deserve no mercy . I’d never seen executions like those before . It reminded me of those grainy black and white films of Nazi execution squads . No difference .

    For those who need reminding – mr levant is the Canadian journo who speaks up for the freedom of Tommy Robinson . I fear Twitter May extinguish him .

    And if you really want to see it -go find it yourself as I wouldn’t have such material on this site . But it needed reporting .

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  40. Dystopian says:

    Anyone watched “Hard to please OAPs” over on ITV just now.
    They took out an electric car and basically showed how ridiculous they are. Trying to charge it in the pouring rain without the cover one would have at a filling station. After waiting 2 hours for 16 miles worth of charge they ended up booking a taxi!
    Then June Brown (Eastenders actress) was talking about “Alexa” saying that it kept doing what they didn’t ask it to do “because it’s been programmed you know. That’s how we’ll all end up, programmed. I wonder if we are already-being programmed.Scary thought.”
    Well she ought to know she works for the BBC.

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    • Burgsey says:

      I have been watching this as well and it does seem to be taking this p*ss out of our oldies. Take a listen to the background music.

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  41. gaxvil says:

    OK so it’s a long extension with a promise the UK will offer ‘sincere co-operation’ but NO re-negotiations – the EU Treaty is the only thing on offer. The cross party talks can only deliver more of what the EU wants and spit in the face of 17.4 million voters.

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  42. fakenewswatcher says:

    After several degrees and a lifetime of watching politics, I have found that- as Andrew Sachs/Manuel said in Fawlty: ‘ I know NOTHING’. Bit of a blow to my self-esteem…
    For instance, I would have said -confidently- that political parties would not select blatantly incompetent, unattractive (in the broad sense) persons to lead their parties. Or if they did, get rid asap. I’ve always known, pretty well, what’s what.
    The Tories have proved me wrong. Please come back, Maggie, all is forgiven!
    I look at the embarassing PM, bungling around Germany, begging for favours in an obviously contrived stitch-up, and I know it’s back to basics time. Worse still, what is the ‘time gained’ supposed to achieve? I don’t get it. Sort of prolongs the agony?
    The election fiasco should have clinched it, I would have thought? Seems not.
    I don’t even know whether G. Brown, who was a real turn-off politics, was worst ever? I used to be so sure…

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    • gaxvil says:

      Yes fnw,
      We have to reduce expectations and reassess past judgments.
      And yes, it does give your self esteem a kicking because you thought that with age and experience came wisdom and the feeling, ‘oh yes we’ve seen it all before’ but this Brexit debacle has taken it to a whole other dimension. One that takes some comprehending.

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  43. Roland Deschain says:

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Thank you, Roland. Thought it was just me…

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    • cromwell says:

      I have my 11 year old grandchild staying with me and we are watching news at ten ITV and i haven’t spoken and he is shouting at the TV at the politions who are spouting off the usual rubbish. He is shouting “you say you want to do something and leave so why don’t you do it and stop just saying things” I was surprised that all this is going in and even children are getting the picture.He showed great dislike for the mealy mouthed politicians. I had to hid a smile just agreed.

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  44. Annunaki says:

    I am tempted to desire a return to the seventies with pakis in their little boxes where they are strictly controllled not allowed to rape and attack christians and jews, who allowed these monsters to flourish ? thanks Blair….who gave them “rights” to rape and discriminate ? is there anyone in any doubt that there are hundreds or thousands more pakis raping white teenagers ?

    And they do love stoning do they not, Time for crucifiction to return, in pigshit, just saying

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  45. Annunaki says:

    The Muslim Council of Britain is calling on the government to properly fund mosque security.

    Yep you hate jews you hate homosexuals etc, etc, and you want us to pay to protect your hateful agenda and your lawyers protecting muslim child rapists from deportation

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    • gaxvil says:

      You can’t blame them – since 9/11 they’ve enjoyed nothing but indulgence and positive discrimination from this country, it’s politicians, institutions and laws and in return all they’ve had to give is hatred, bombs, rape and death.

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  46. Dystopian says:

    Well this one flies in the face of the BBBC bull we are being constantly spoon fed….

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/09/nolte-scientists-prove-man-made-global-warming-is-a-hoax/

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    • StewGreen says:

      Hmm that title is a bit click baity
      It’s not new news, already well know that historic CO2 levels have been higher than today.
      And that other factors drive CO2 levels rather than just humans
      eg if the planet warms up ..then CO2 stored in the ocean water gets released etc.

      An alarmist true believer would argue ..’but temps have never risen so fast as in the last 100 years’
      …Actually that is impossible to say cos we don’t know how different t was decade to decade 3 million years ago.
      We’ve only got instrumental records for 200 years
      and proxies like tree rings for 1,000

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