Midweek Open Thread 3 April 2019

The Far Left Biased BBC continues to paint a picture of political turmoil without saying Remainer MPs are causing it . Over to you …

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  1. Annunaki says:

    The people versus Charles 1st look what happened in a much more repressive society …….is there an oak tree large enough for this lot to hide for a while ?

    The Royal Oak is the English oak tree within which the future King Charles II of England hid to escape the Roundheads following the Battle of Worcester in 1651. The tree was in Boscobel Wood, which was part of the park of Boscobel House. Charles told Samuel Pepys in 1680 that while he was hiding in the tree, a Parliamentarian soldier passed directly below it. The story was popular after the Restoration, and is remembered every year in the English traditions of Royal Oak Day.

    Numerous large slipware dishes (known as ‘chargers’) depicting the Boscobel Oak, were made by the Staffordshire potter Thomas Toft. The oak tree is shown being supported by the Lion and Unicorn, with the king’s face peeping from the branches.[1]

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I think the Boscobel Oak would be cut down as a health and safety precaution. In case an acorn fell on a child ….

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      There are indications that Pride’s Purge mark two could come any time now to forcibly remove from Parliament, all those who were not supporters of Brexit. Five men of the 3rd Battalion of the Parachute Regiment have been caught using a picture of Jeremy Corbyn for target practice. They made the mistake of posting their practice session on Twitter. There are also rumours that a large number of military vehicles have been leaving the Leconfield and Catterick camps in Yorkshire as part of a plan that includes 3,500 troops who think they have been called up to defend Theresa May from angry and violent demonstrators outside of Parliament, but could actually be used by the Army top brass to support the demonstrators, by purging Parliament of the Remainers.

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  2. Annunaki says:

    Problem is some have electronic tags to wear as they are convicted criminals of some of the the worse kind i.e. perverting the course of justice yet refuse to resign as unfit to be an MP, which they demonstrably are, BUT we now have a diverse society which, it seems, means that decency and honour are no longer a British trait, as our immigrant stock demonstrate.

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  3. Annunaki says:

    In a WhatsApp group for Labour MPs, she compared her situation to that of Jesus Christ after his conviction.

    As first reported in The Times, Onasanya wrote she was “in biblical company along with Joseph, Moses, Daniel and his three Hebrew friends, who were each found guilty by the courts of their day”.

    Forgive my limited grasp of history / biblical knowledge but I do not believe any of the aforementioned were doing 41 MPH in a 30 limit putting lives at risk then blamed in on their drug dealer brother although I may be mistaken

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Annu
      There is mention of it in Paul’s letter to the Crown Prosecution Service ….( lord forgive me – but I know you had a sense of humour )…

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      • Annunaki says:

        Ahh sorry, I will have a look again in the St James version, something about Jesus getting arrested for speeding on an ass , or something and blaming it all on James who was busy selling some dodgy Myrrh on a street corner no doubt, and Jesus sermon on the mount: iss cos I is black innit or something

        Maybe the Nigerian version could inform us as to his guilt, possibly mass manger benefit fraud ?

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        • Lucy Pevensey says:

          Changing water into wine was his first offence.
          Then there was a speeding boat on The Sea of Galilee which caused a storm.
          Then he was pulled over for dangerous driving a donkey into the Jerusalem city centre.

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          • Banania says:

            And he caused the Gadarene swine to crash out over a cliff edge.

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            • Up2snuff says:

              Actually, lads & lasses, Jesus of Nazareth (well, really Bethlehem but the Pharisees were not good on detail) was deemed an offender for 1. healing on the Sabbath, and, 2. for forgiving sins, thus claiming to be God.

              That, and the fact that His holy life, miracles and living showed up a corrupt Priesthood, as well as a Sanhedrin that was no better, led to Him being nailed by Romans (Gentiles) to one of their crosses.

              But God had a plan. 🙂 “I have authority (power) to lay it (my life) down and take it up again.” (John 10v18) And thus the price for sins was paid. That whole chapter of John’s Gospel is a wonderful chapter and kind of extra relevant for right now.

              Now, if only the PM had a plan to deal with the evil EU ….

              We need Peers and Poland to come to our rescue next week. C’mon Poland! You owe us one. Remember?!

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  4. Lucy Pevensey says:

    That leak in Parliament earlier today turned out to be sewage.
    Is somebody trying to drain the swamp?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      A comment from ‘above’?

      Rather similar to York Minster being struck by lightning?

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  5. Annunaki says:

    Where is the fan…

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  6. Fedup2 says:

    There are local elections coming up on 2 May is some areas . I think the MSM is trying to keep it quiet . Judging by comments on the twitter in response to local councillors asking for votes it will be first taste for the political class of the (political)slaughter to come

    Candidates are being advised not to go canvassing .

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    • Loobyloo says:

      By election in Newport…they are saying the turnout is low. I am surprised, I would have thought voters would relish the chance to punish the parties. Maybe some of our Welsh contributors can fill me in 😊

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  7. Annunaki says:

    A quick reminder of those who are given the reponsibility to represent us:
    Fiona Onasanya, Peterborough’s Labour MP who was last year found guilty of perverting the course of justice, has been sentenced this morning to three months. She has become the first woman MP ever to be jailed…

    The judge said that “If she wasn’t an MP or wasn’t in a position of responsibility, she would go inside. It’s not one law for those in a position of power, and another for those who are not.”

    “By the time you met a police investigator, you knew that you were providing information that you knew to be untrue. You deliberately committed the offend of which you are convicted. That was a disastrous decision. It is an aggravating feature that you both persisted with dishonest course… It was a serious and flagrant offence.”

    Onasanya’s defence argued that as a barrister and an MP, prison time would be overly harsh, as “she will no longer be able to work in either of her chosen professions.” Guido would have thought that she should have considered this before attempting to pervert the course of justice…

    Her brother Festus, who had previously been sentenced to 54 months back in 2011 for offensive robbery, and had a raft of drug offences is expected to serve prison time for ten months. His guilty plea entitled him to a reduction of 15%.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Far be it from me to wonder whether she is a con artist (politicians generally) who additionally has a certain card to play.
      Given some of our contemporary obsessions, this is the card to play if you want to shut up the critics. These include, not only the Tories in her constituency, but also Labour, the party she represented. But their cards pale into insignificance by comparison…

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      • Annunaki says:

        Time we burnt these cards, 85% of the population have no cards to play yet we created this country and its prosperity and benefits and are now under siege with immigrant knife crime, immigrant rapists, immigrant abuse of our laws and culture and education, and immigrant terrorists all with cards to play when challenged, I say [email protected]@@ their cards

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    • JamesArthur says:

      She is a barrister? WTF? Qualify in Nigeria or did she mean a Barista? I cannot believe she is a barrister – I can believe she is an MP – lying and cheating seem to be pre requisites for most of them

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      • Fedup2 says:

        They’ve got to fill the colour quota . And useless coloured barristers ‘ groom’ more useless coloured barristers . Same with solicitors – see current Emir of Londonistan

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  8. G.W.F. says:

    The BBC has been rumbled so often.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      One difference between Britain and the old Soviet Union: in the USSR, they scrapped the TV licence in 1961 (which had been based around a monthly subscription fee). Oh, a second difference that the Soviet flagship nightly news programme Время (‘Time’) was usually more truthful than today’s BBC News 🙂

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  9. The General says:

    The reason we are in this mess is because the stupid Conservative MPs voted May Prime Minister.
    Apart from the fact she is a Remainer, she is not up to the job, she is a stubborn woman only interested in her ‘Legacy’ no matter how ruinous it is to the country and her Party.

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    • Kaiser says:

      remainiac , euroextremist , euro fascist, euro imperialist

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    • Dystopian says:

      and let’s not forget the blatantly pro Brexit anti British BBC are aiding and abetting them with the process of destroying our democracy. They are totally in breach of the terms of their charter and they ought to be investigated and disbanded.
      I for one will vote for any party that makes scrapping the licence fee into one of their policies….ah UKIP!

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  10. Kaiser says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa-26875506

    german efficiency huh

    got nothing on africans

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  11. gaxvil says:

    Some Lords thinking they’re being played for fools in order to push thru’ the Cooper bill – they are correct.
    We have Nigel Lawson disgusted by the antics of the lower house “Never in my 45 years in politics etc..”

    And today we have the ‘Confirmatory Vote’ ploy with only Remainer choices – which will do May and Corbyn harm but our MPs are so very desperate and rationality is out the window.

    The EU is loosing patience and is not prepared to negotiate any longer or keep offering extensions.
    They need us out in time for the EU Elections or that will harm their legitimacy.

    I await a new day and the latest piece of idiocy.

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    • gaxvil says:

      PS:- And of course a second vote can only have, May’s Treaty or Remain because to have No Deal would ruin their OH SO CRAFTY little plan.

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  12. Beltane says:

    Charles Moore on QT questioned the balance of the panel 4:1 remain. Fiona wasn’t having it and cited the 50/50 audience to support her – but the earlier whoops and the longest applause, for Lammy’s class-war rant, tended to prove the point.
    What a thug in a suit that racist lout is to be sure.

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  13. Luckyharry69 says:

    @Beltane
    I dont know if you are listening to QT Extra Time?Its cringeworthy.The usual anti Brexit mocking of Tories like Jacob Rees Mogg etc…its the same every week.They have a female singer on from the Happy Mondays who loves Lammy and they love the Irish woman as well….I dont know why I listen its sheer torture……..

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    • bandit says:

      Charles Moore bang on the money as he was last time he appeared on QT.
      If he had got up and thrown his mic on the table and walked off after the first normal
      Left wing cheering he could have made headlines !!!!
      Shame he did not as listening to a remainer love in without a voice of dissent after just one person has walked would have highlighted

      the true bias ?

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      • Loobyloo says:

        Charles Moore is a disappointing speaker IMHO. He is far too quiet, polite and measured. An excellent writer though. I’m guessing they didn’t have any outraged voters in the audience then? Seething at the antics of the HOP this week?

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  14. Nibor says:

    I could half listen or less to David Aaronovitch’s The Briefing Room because of work .
    Radio 4 at 20.00 .
    The bit I got was very heavy not an analysis , but narrative .
    Thus it was ; well you know the picture .
    The trouble about the EU is there is a lot of technicality which is boring to the average Joe ( until it affects him ) although some people think it’s deliberate . Be boring and no one wants to see what you’re doing . Who wants to get excited about the Blue Book unless you are in an industry that needs the Blue Book ?
    Or the Green Book .
    I couldn’t blame anyone who crosses the floor of a pub to get away from me telling about the technicalities of that !
    But Aaronvitches programme did the narrative , not a true a analysis or technical breakdown , so from the conclusion was Brexit bad , Remain good .

    So I give a challenge to the pro EU lot ( Maxi ? ) .

    £1000 pounds if you can prove the BBC has broadcast a Brexit favourable programme since … Ever .

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  15. Loobyloo says:

    Regent’s Park stabbing: Two charged with murder of Zahir Visiter https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-47810741
    Absolutely disgusting that this is reported without reference to the original report that the police were looking for two white men with long hair
    Maybe the assailants had ‘whited up’ as a disguise.
    I feel the steam building in the pressure cooker.

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    • Cooper_Man says:

      If you look at recent stories that the Beeb have tagged with the word ‘Whitechapel’ it makes for grim reading:

      Apr 4 – Met Police urge Brexit campaigners not to inflame tensions
      Apr 4 – Mosque-search stabbing suspects charged
      Apr 3 – Man found injured in street dies
      Apr 3 – Three men held after fatal stabbing
      Apr 3 – Googlebox star in new appeal over murder
      Apr 3 – Two men stabbed in Wembley
      Apr 2 – Man knifed near Edmonton stabbings scene
      Apr 2 – Stab attack leaves man dead
      Apr 2 – Police renew appeal over teenage girl’s murder
      Apr 1 – Vigilance urged after ‘random’ stabbings
      Mar 31 – Four stabbed in ‘random’ knife attacks
      Mar 31 – Driver stabbed to death in ‘vicious’ attack
      Mar 31 – Police given more stop and search powers
      Mar 31 – Murder arrest over boy’s stab death
      Mar 30 – Regent’s Park stab death victim named
      Mar 29 – Man stabbed to death outside Tube Station
      Mar 29 – Man shot dead in south London named
      Mar 29 – Manhunt under way after fatal stabbing
      Mar 29 – Met Police bring in extra officers
      Mar 28 – Man attacked near mosque in hate crime
      Mar 28 – Child sex abuse reports ‘overwhelm’ Met
      Mar 28 – Man released over fatal Acton flat stabbing
      Mar 28 – Murder arrest over shopkeeper stabbing

      The depressing thing is that I could go on for some time with similar headlines – and yet we’re continually being told by the Beeb that ‘diversity is our strength’

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      • dazzer says:

        It’s pretty much a no-go area for whites and blacks – especially on Friday when they flood the streets and roads outside their mosque.

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        • vesnadog says:

          d,

          The UKs “little Italy”

          More like UKs “Big Pakistan”

          But in the UKs case – there is a “Big Pakistan” in every UK town,, city and village. Something that the US does not have.

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    • vlad says:

      It’s the usual beeb Modus Operandi: first deflect suspicion away from their preferred minorities with any old rumour, real or fabricated. Then when the facts emerge, bury them in some regional section and hope the public have forgotten as the media ‘move on’.

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    • Van Helsing says:

      Didn’t the claim that the attackers were long-haired white men originate from ‘witnesses’ at the mosque? If so, one hopes that Inspector Knacker and co. are investigating what actually occurred at the mosque as well as hauling those who made said claim down to the Yard for questioning.

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  16. Richard Pinder says:

    Theresa May is simply following orders from the Civil Service, as she has since the Chequers Deal was constructed for her to force upon the Tory Party. Almost all Civil Servants support the Labour Party as the Labour Party are also supporters of the European Union as is Theresa May. The Civil Service expected the Labour Party to support the withdrawal agreement, so its only natural for Civil Servants to help the Labour Party with its Customs Union Plan for Theresa May to be ordered to force upon the Tory Party, as they did with the Chequers Plan.

    Tory MP’s cant get rid of their leader because they voted for her to stay. Labour MP’s cant get rid of their leader because their membership love him dearly. But at least the Tories can cleanse themselves of those who vote for the Customs Union plan, after she goes, by deselecting those who vote for it, and putting Boris Johnson in charge, on a clean break ticket for the next General Election. If that happens, the Labour Party are stitched up if they either keep Jeremy Corbyn or replaice him. The membership wont replace him with one of the few Brexeteers in the Labour party, so the Labour Party would be stitched up by its own Customs Union Brexit Plan.

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    • vesnadog says:

      R,

      ” putting Boris Johnson in charge”

      In my opinion that would be a big mistake on the part of the few remaining Tory members.

      In my view Johnson has shown himself to be too much of a damp squid, cowardly and rather two-faced – he went walkabouts during the talks up to and after the buildup to the big vote and was/still is more concerned with his mistress?/personal life. In other words: the whole nation knows that he wanted to remain enslaved to a foreign power, obviously, leaving him more time at his barbers and more time in the mornings to practice his pretended “looks of surprise” when the PM leads us slowly into more bondage with the EU godfathers.

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  17. taffman says:

    Following today’s debacle at the ‘House of Comedians’ and Al Beeb’s continued Bias, my usual message to the both of them is …………….“You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.”

    The next step for these twisters is a second referendum, – a ‘three card trick’ – A “confirmatory referendum”.
    Now we know all ‘the information ?
    All ‘the information’ following three years of ‘project fear’ of propaganda telling us how bad things will be in the UK.
    But no ‘project fear’ on Remaining in the EU.
    I wonder why ?
    Drain the swamp by voting UKIP.

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  18. taffman says:

    Well the dumb Taffs in Newport West voted for Labour again. As expected.
    With a reduced majority . Low turnout?
    Cons made some gains. Donkey with red ribbon syndrome .
    Newport is full of Remainers.

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    • Loobyloo says:

      Sky report says they voted Leave 56 to 44. Maybe a lot of them have died?

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    • Up2snuff says:

      taffman, BBC ‘blamed’ it on the bad weather. South Wales softies …

      LibDems, Greens, Plaid Cymru – not mentioned.

      UKIP vote increased – trebled, I think.

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  19. Luckyharry69 says:

    Labour have won Newport but only by 2000 votes with a 2.5 % swing to the Tories.Low turnout…12,000 less voters for Labour from 22,500 last time to just over 9000 tonight………..
    UKIP doubles its vote with 8% of the vote

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Although UKIP polled 6,134 votes (15.2%) in 2015, so they are only just over half of what they were 4 years ago…

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  20. Richard Pinder says:

    Almost a secret hidden by the Media is the Newport West By-election.

    Result: (1st) Labour 9,308. (2nd) Conservative 7,357. (3rd) UKIP 2,023. Labour hold with a swing down of 13%, Conservative swing down 8%, but UKIP got a swing up of 6%.

    A 37% turnout indicates that most people have now given up on democracy.

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      A 37% turnout indicates that half the voters in the Referendum have now given up on democracy. Turnout for the Referendum was 70.2%: (56% for Brexit) (44% for Remain)

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      • Up2snuff says:

        It is a mistake to give up on our democracy, Richard.

        That is what is wanted by some of those in Westminster, like Anna Soubry and Yvette Cooper because they can use it to justify their power grab.

        The EU also want that so that eventually the EU parliament can be abandoned on the grounds of cost and unity and all power (and decisions) instead taken by the Commission led by the President.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Tories would have won with UKIP votes added?
      An omen for the future, Ms May…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Interesting that UKIP might have deprived the torrid from winning the seat . Once upon a time this might have mattered a bit to me . But now I’m just of the view that they all need to be punished .
      And a ‘why bother’ level of turn out .. or blame the weather

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  21. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Under the new law Singapore’s government will determine what is factual news and what is not.

    ***

    Outrageous. That is the BBC’s job.

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  22. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Elton John ‏is doing it.

    Queer Eye and Ellen DeGeneres support it.

    George Clooney started it.

    But will a boycott on Brunei really work? https://bbc.in/2Uf5xYx

    ***
    It took until the third line before I realised what ‘it’ might be.

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  23. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Across 45% of UK firms the gender pay gap increased in favour of men, analysis by the BBC finds.

    ****
    ‘Analysis by the BBC’. Lol.

    #CCBGB

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  24. Guest Who says:

    This is like an OCD tweet.

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  25. Dystopian says:

    Apologies if this has already been discussed (I’ve not had the time to catch up). Below is the response I received from “the Government”. Are they living in a parallel universe where the leaflet they sent out actually meant anything? How can they refer to the the leaflet and reiterate that they would implement whatever we chose, when the very same leaflet specifically said we would be leaving the customs union, the single market and the jurisdiction of the ECJ? Mays so called deal delivers none of the above but they still quote the promises they made in the leaflet. Next they will be telling us that night is day and vice versa.

    The Government has responded to the petition you signed – “Parliament must honour the Referendum result. Leave deal or no deal 29/03/19”.

    “Government responded:

    The Government stands by its commitment to uphold the result of the 2016 referendum and to deliver the UK’s withdrawal from the EU.

    In 2016, this Government stated that it would honour the result of the referendum, whatever the outcome.

    During the 2016 referendum campaign, this Government wrote to every UK household to promise that it would implement the result of the referendum. With that commitment in mind, 17.4 million people voted to leave the European Union, providing the biggest democratic mandate for any course of action ever directed at a UK Government.

    The British people voted once again in the General Election of 2017, with over 80% of those who voted, voting for parties, including the Opposition, who committed to respecting and implementing the result of the referendum.

    The British people have made their view clear. It is now our responsibility to uphold the result of the referendum.

    The Government’s policy was to deliver Brexit on the 29th of March. The Government has agreed a short extension with the EU, and continues to try and find consensus that will ensure the UK leaves in a smooth and orderly way. However, in the event that the House does not pass the meaningful vote, the legal default remains that the UK will leave the EU on the 12th of April without a negotiated agreement.”

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  26. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    The proposed 12-month extension will allow the UK to leave sooner if MPs ratify a deal, an EU source says.

    ***
    So, to leaver sooner than in a week, the proposal is a 12-month extension?

    Uh-huh.

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  27. Annunaki says:

    Parliament ain’t just bad – it’s criminal: RICHARD LITTLEJOHN on jailbird MP Fiona Onasanya casting the deciding vote on the latest Stop Brexit manoeuvre

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/debate/article-6888683/RICHARD-LITTLEJOHN-Fiona-Onasanya-casting-deciding-vote-latest-Stop-Brexit-manoeuvre.html

    Just when you thought Parliament couldn’t sink any lower, along comes jailbird MP Fiona Onasanya to cast the deciding vote in favour of the latest Stop Brexit manoeuvre.

    Onasanya walked through the voting lobby wearing the electronic ankle tag with which she was fitted after being released early from HMP Bronzefield in Surrey.

    Her participation ensured that the Bill to change the law so that Britain can’t leave the EU without a ‘deal’ passed by the narrowest of margins, 313 to 312.
    Fiona Onasanya cast the deciding vote in favour of the latest Stop Brexit manoeuvre
    +3

    Fiona Onasanya cast the deciding vote in favour of the latest Stop Brexit manoeuvre

    Onasanya, MP for Peterborough, served just 28 days of a three-month sentence for perverting the course of justice, after repeatedly lying to police to avoid a speeding fine.

    If she had been forced to complete her full term she would still have been in prison and, therefore, unable to vote.

    Such is the desperation of those determined to defy the democratic will of the British people that they are prepared to rely on the help of a convicted criminal to get their way.

    We now live in a country where the vote of a single, disgraced MP outweighs the votes of 17.4 million people in a referendum.

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  28. Annunaki says:

    She had previously voted against Theresa May’s withdrawal agreement. This is regardless of the fact that more than 60 per cent of her constituents in Peterborough voted Leave.

    The Labour Party withdrew the whip after she was convicted, but we’re told nothing could be done to stop her voting in the Commons. Really? I’m sure Speaker Bercow could have come up with some arcane rule which would have prevented her casting a vote.

    After all, he’s already reached back to the 1600s in his apparent determination to Stop Brexit. And he continues to tear up the rule book and override precedent.

    The Bill to extend Article 50 was rammed through in just four hours. Bercow’s behaviour has been described as a ‘constitutional outrage’ by Brexiteers.

    Outside the Westminster Bubble, most people would think that allowing a convicted criminal wearing an ankle tag to cast the deciding vote on a crucial Bill affecting Britain’s future was also a constitutional outrage.

    Yet the Speaker and the other 312 MPs who voted in favour of the motion, put forward by Oliver Leftwing and Pixie Balls-Cooper, could see nothing wrong with Onasanya helping their cause. They would have been screaming blue murder if she’d voted the other way. You can bet your life that Bercow would have come up with something, anything, to stop that happening.

    You might also have hoped that one, just one, ‘honourable’ member planning to vote in favour would have been seized by a pang of conscience and abstained, to cancel out Onasanya’s vote.

    But no. As far as the Remain headbangers are concerned, Brexit must be derailed at any cost, even if that means the last vestiges of decency being thrown out of the window.

    To make matters worse, Onasanya wasn’t the only crooked MP allowed to vote this week.

    Tory Chris Davies, member for Brecon and Radnorshire, trooped through the lobby while awaiting sentencing for fraud.

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  29. Guest Who says:

    Looks like Norm has been reprogrammed. Remain 3.0.

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  30. Guest Who says:

    #hasthebbcfactcheckedthisyet

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  31. Annunaki says:

    Sodomy is so awful even animals abhor it, except pigs’: Homophobic and misogynistic books are found in the library of a private Islamic school

    Officials said the east London school failed to protect pupils from extreme views
    School – based inside Forest Gate Mosque in Newham – could be closed down

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6888865/Homophobic-misogynistic-books-library-private-Islamic-school.html

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  32. Guest Who says:

    If any of these clowns influence anyone on anything, much is explained.

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  33. Guest Who says:

    As BBC ‘news’ goes, this one has it all…

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  34. Annunaki says:

    Julian Assange to be expelled from Ecuadorian embassy in London WITHIN HOURS say WikiLeaks

    “In a Time of Universal Deceit Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act” – George Orwell

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  35. Guest Who says:

    Interesting comment thread given the origins of the products mentioned.

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    • JamesArthur says:

      Why exactly would brazil nuts be affected? As far as I know they come from outside EU and they might actually get cheaper after Brexit ..Just another piece of shite. In fact the chap from the company said it’s needed to satisfy demand from customers..oh dear their demand is going up – due to Brexit 🙂
      There is a more realistic reason that they don’t mention.
      Prices of Brazil nuts have increased by over 22% over last few years due to production issues in SAmerica and as UK is one of largest importers they would be more affected – so rather than being forward planning due to production issues and harvest – it has to be linked to BREXIT by BBC

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  36. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/apr/04/punish-gerard-batten-for-inflammatory-language-mep-urges

    Punish Gerard Batten for ‘inflammatory’ language, MEP urges
    European parliament urged to sanction Ukip leader for speech that compared EU leaders to Hitler

    Batten is correct, and also wrong.

    Hitler favoured white people.
    The EU is planning to merge with 1bn Africans.

    Hitler was a patriot.
    The EU are the worst traitors ever.

    Meanwhile, in the House of Lords, the truth about the EU, and its deep penetration GRADE A TRAITORS in
    the unspeakable “other place”, is being told.

    No comments allowed. The Guardian is frit.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady watch

      Humph getting all hot and bothered over another extension to not leaving the ReichEU . The May European election campaign will be a War . And one in which I will happily take part .

      After that – at 2 minutes of Tom Watson – it was off switch time ….

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  37. Ed Hitter says:

    Charles Moore straight out of the traps as he calls out BBC bias on last nght’s QT. Millions quietly urge him on from their armchairs. Fiona Bruce tries usual BBC deflection tactic. Worth a watch.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The original location was meant to be Bolton – but moved to London – the centre of remain – I said yesterday that this programme would be heavily censored but moving the location was beyond my prediction but I should have guessed .

      I bet putting this section of it on this website make the viewing figures go up – so if anyone wants it taken down I will gladly delete it .

      { personally I find the QT offensive in its bias but I don’t watch it now }

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Well done, Charles Moore. The smug, sneery, condescending Fiona Bruce didn’t fool anyone. R4 is the same. The Dumblebys NEVER have a balanced panel either. Or anything but a lefty audience…

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  38. theisland says:

    Apologies if already posted.
    Not bBC but the Standard’s sleight of hand.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      He must be a remainer because as John Snow kindly enlightened us, all the Brexiters are white !

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    • StewGreen says:

      Yep Daniel Forde must be a Raminer , cos only they would think May is doing No-Deal
      \\ He houted in the dock: “A guy was upset that he was denied entry to the public gallery, that’s why he ripped up the roses.
      “It was when Theresa May was doing no-deal Brexit.” //

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  39. Dystopian says:

    Apparently Yuri Geller is now involving himself in the Brexit process. He has claimed responsibility for “bending the pipes in parliament”.
    Still that doesn’t explain why most of the MP’s are bent and hell bent on destroying democracy.

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  40. Guest Who says:

    Where do the bbc find them?

    Probably nearby.

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    • Dystopian says:

      I’m sure it would have been the will of dead people for this country to remain free and proud..especially the millions of dead people who gave their lives in two world wars so that jumped up little pricks like him are free to voice their opinions.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Isn’t that -that nice Nick Astley ? Luvely voice – he’s a remainer isn’t he?

         9 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      When the UK moved to decimalisation back in the 1970s the Fib Dems ( at the time the Fiberals) moaned that old people would not find it easy to cope with the change over and that it should be delayed for ten years until most of them had passed on, without realising that that life is a conveyor belt and those who had died would simply be replaced by others.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Guest – He thinks he’s clever….Mistake 1
      He also thinks that watch ticking away on his wrist doesn’t actually show time ticking by for him: that he is exempt….Mistake 2
      Sorry little one, you’re not around forever either. Try not to puff-up your supposed immortality in public and be offensive in the process….Mistake 3
      It’s coming your way too, lad, and it will reach you much faster than you think!
      Stupid Boy.

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      Apprentice cameraman.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Boy Wonder likely to ask this question?

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  41. theisland says:

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    • vesnadog says:

      the,

      “The EU lays claim to our territory ”

      Just a thought:

      When the first roman invaders approached the white Cliffs of Dover they named England: “The White country”

      Wonder what the invaders of 2030 will name it? “the black country”

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    • StewGreen says:

      Is that stunt good for the nature that lives on those cliffs ?

         10 likes

  42. Up2snuff says:

    ‘You can no longer edit this comment’

    This interesting message just came up under my post in reply to Richard Pinder at 8.38am while there was about 12min+ of editing time left. I was actually in the middle of an edit.

    What is going on there? Or, rather, here?

    Was it mentioning the names of Anna Soubry and Yvette Cooper that did it?

       8 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Up2
      I’m not sure – if you want me to edit it I’ll try meself ..I haven’t fiddled with any software …

         4 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      Up,

      You can bet your last Euro that GCHQ has been monitoring this excellent website for years and will probably use a good many of those extra 5 000 agents to keep an archive of our comments.

         11 likes

      • Fedup2 says:

        Ves
        Perhaps the boys and girls set it up to attract non conforming types who can be put on a ‘list’ for the time when the Comrades or Mussies officially take over .

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  43. Thoughtful says:

    Shhhhhhhh not to be mentioned by our far leftists media especially not the BBC

    Uber has barred a London driver from the app after two men claimed he cancelled their requested trip because he “doesn’t take Jews”.

    The driver, identified to his passengers as “Ahmad”, was booked for a journey in Wembley on Monday afternoon by Sam Adler and his business partner.

    “We were standing by the High Road in Wembley, and the guy drove past and said ‘just dropping off a passenger, I’m coming back’”, Mr Adler told the JC.

    Mr Adler said he believed the driver then noticed that the two men waiting were wearing kippahs, because he said the driver subsequently “turned around, and as he drove past us, said ‘I don’t take Jews’. Then he hightailed it, just pegged it.”

    Screenshots of the booked journey, seen by the JC, show the driver then cancelled the booking via the app.

    In a statement to the JC, an Uber spokesperson said that the behaviour was “totally unacceptable” and that the company “does not tolerate any form of discrimination.

    “As soon as we are made aware of these situations we remove a driver’s access from the app and report them to the Metropolitan Police.”

    Uber had told Mr Adler the situation was being “handled as a priority”, confirming they had “the full details of the partner-driver, trip and rider on our systems, so that we can immediately investigate any concerns raised”.

    However, they declined to provide Mr Adler with any compensation when he asked, telling him: “We would never want to minimise an experience like you describe by putting an arbitrary monetary value on the situation.

    “What may be one value to an individual may be different to another – it is just not possible to calculate.”…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Thoughtful – funny how things come around –

      No blacks , no dogs , no Irish – a sign in Londonistan boarding houses in the 1940s and beyond..

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  44. Fedup2 says:

    A Blackman , one Jason Kakaire, 29, has been charged with the 6? Stabbings recently in Northern Londonistan.

    Being aware of the requirements not to prejudice matters – i wonder what amount of coverage the BBC will give to this ? Particularly if there is an ‘uncomfortable motive ‘. Or they might report the traditional ‘mental issues’. We ll see ( or not )

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  45. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Which figure from the past would the users of BBBC like resurrected at this critical time in British history?

    I nominate Joseph William Bazalgette, the creator of the London sewer system. A system so well built it is in use today.

    Bazalgette is required because there is more s**t, requiring flushing away, in one building today, than there was in
    the whole of London in the Great Stink of 1858.

    I look forward to other nominations.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Last chance

      I’ll take the bait . Lord Nelson – great at putting Europeans with delusions of grandeur in their place …

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Oliver Cromwell !

      It is high time for me to put an end to your sitting in this place,

      which you have dishonored by your contempt of all virtue, and defiled by your practice of every vice.

      Ye are a factious crew, and enemies to all good government.

      Ye are a pack of mercenary wretches, and would like Esau sell your country for a mess of pottage, and like Judas betray your God for a few pieces of money.

      Is there a single virtue now remaining amongst you? Is there one vice you do not possess?

      Ye have no more religion than my horse. Gold is your God. Which of you have not bartered your conscience for bribes? Is there a man amongst you that has the least care for the good of the Commonwealth?

      Ye sordid prostitutes have you not defiled this sacred place, and turned the Lord’s temple into a den of thieves, by your immoral principles and wicked practices?

      Ye are grown intolerably odious to the whole nation. You were deputed here by the people to get grievances redressed, are yourselves become the greatest grievance.

      Your country therefore calls upon me to cleanse this Augean stable, by putting a final period to your iniquitous proceedings in this House; and which by God’s help, and the strength he has given me, I am now come to do.

      I command ye therefore, upon the peril of your lives, to depart immediately out of this place.

      Go, get you out! Make haste! Ye venal slaves be gone! So! Take away that shining bauble there, and lock up the doors.

      In the name of God, go!

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  46. Frustrated says:

    R4, Today 6.45
    Yesterday in Lords “perfectly” summarised in typical biased-BBC style by Susan Hume:

    “The bill had whizzed through the Commons … getting passed by just one vote” (no mention of the fact that this vote was cast by a “criminal”, who arguably should not have even been there).

    But the Lords don’t like to hurry things and the (mainly) Conservative peers who loathe both the bill and the process were determined to use the fact that bills cannot be time-restricted to full effect.”

    So Labour’s Lady Hayter had a message for those trying to hold up the passage of the bill. The condescension in her opening speech about the “small group of unelected Peers … trying to stop us considering the bill … to halt the Common‘s desire to prevent a no deal” [which Hume plays almost in full] makes my skin crawl.

    The extremely eloquent speeches of numerous Leaver Lords that followed go unmentioned. For entertainment, she provides comments by Blunkett and an “irate” Naseby criticising “light weight” MPs.

    An “amusing” anecdote is then given of the completely flustered Deputy Speaker [because things weren’t proceeding at the usual leisurely pace] “whose hand fluttered up to her brow” when she couldn’t immediately find a piece of paper. Essential reporting, I’m sure.

    “Peers then had to vote on whether to have a vote on whether to talk about the bill in a lot more detail. Peers, who wanted to crack on, won by a big majority but it was all a bit baffling for those at the end of the chamber” [who couldn’t hear what was going on].”

    An “extremely disappointed” Lady Evans points out that TM is to ask for a delay at Wednesday’s summit anyway but “if the EU offers something different, the bill will force the PM to check back with Parliament, by which point the Council will be over and EU leaders have gone home, so we’ll potentially have to agree a further extension with the EU via correspondence 24 hours before our departure.”

    Hume then allows a “horrified” Lord Lawson a few words on the “appalling day” and “constitutional vandalism”. While she has Lib Dem Newby counter with the fact that unprecedented collapse of Government needs to be responded to by Parliament with unprecedented measures (he actually spoke before Lawson).

    As the Lords seemed “no closer to starting the debate”, she tiptoes softly away to see how they’re getting along at the other end of the corridor and finishes her piece with the “pitter patter” of water pouring down through the roof of the Commons [i.e. it’s mid-afternoon, about 14.48].

    Having actually listened [well, with one ear] to the entire “debate” which continued till late in the night, I claim she may have missed anything actually worth reporting. But even from the morning session, she could have given any one of the important reasons WHY so many Lords were against this (precedential) bill being passed in such a hurry.

    But her intent was to ridicule and we don’t really expect anything else of the BBC anyway, do we?

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  47. Beeb Brother says:

    BBC homepage:

    -Wicked Brexit thwarted.

    -‘Gender pay gap.’

    -Racism in football.

    -Online rival needs to be shut down.

    -LGBT lessons.

    -Someone famous has said something.

    Full house for the Groundhog Broadcasting Corporation!

       25 likes

  48. StewGreen says:

    So tonight 7:30pm Channel4 will be talking about the positive things Brazil’s new president has done ?
    … nope , just normal rightie-bashing and LGBQT agenda pushing.
    Brazil has hoodlum guys and they’ll hit out against anyone not just LGBQT

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  49. StewGreen says:

    10pm Channel4
    No surprise … that they have an edgy prog about Sex Education
    No surprise … that hey bring on their celebrity mates
    No surprise … that I can’t see that any of them are righties
    No surprise … that Alastair Campbell is on

    \\ Danny Dyer explains the birds and the bees along with Miriam Margolyes, Alastair Campbell, London Hughes & Ulrika Jonsson

    \\ Danny Dyer and his 11-year-old daughter Sunnie and Ulrika Jonsson and 14-year-old Martha will head back to the classroom in Let’s Talk About Sex.
    Others sharing their candid opinions and fascinating anecdotes of their own personal experiences are Miriam Margolyes, Stephen Mangan, Alastair and Grace Campbell, Phil Wang, London Hughes and Kieron Richardson.
    Jeff Brazier and his son also take part. //

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  50. fakenewswatcher says:

    Where did it all begin?
    When did the Centre become ‘the Far Right’, ‘Fascists’ and ‘Neo-Nazis’?
    Well, I have a theory:
    We need to go back to Soviet times, when the Berlin wall was expected to be the site of a show down between the liberal West and the clear ENEMY -the Commies.
    But in 1989, all change. The wall comes down and the Soviet Empire collapses a year or two later.
    Suddenly the Commies are no longer the enemy. We are told ‘it’s the end of history’.
    Not long, but someone, somewhere has already located a new enemy, and given it a name. It is Joshka Fisher, new German Foreign Minister, and a member of the Green Party, in the Socialist-Green coalition ruling Germany.
    By 1998 he has declared Mr Milosevic to be the new Hitler, who is busy creating a new Auschwitz in the FRY, to be exact, in Kosovo. The peace-loving Greens had found the enemy and their first war. The enemy was now no longer the Communist menace. It was the Fascists, declared the tennis-shoe wearing Fisher. Cos they were doing exactly what Hitler did.
    And lo and behold, before 2001, before Iraq or Aghanistan, before Lybia and Syria, NATO went to war, naturally for ‘humanitarian’ reasons. The Serbs were now the target. Kosovo had to be ‘liberated’.
    That was twenty years ago.
    The Greens are currently on the rise again, in Germany. Joshka Fisher may be gone, but the Greens (together with the Socialists (and Merkel’s CDU) are still fighting ‘Fascism’. This time it’s crept into their own parliament.
    This time it’s the AfD, who were yesterday prevented from taking their rightful seat in the Presidium of the German parliament, since they are the only real opposition.
    With the enthusiastic help of the German state broadcasters, the AfD -who wanted to create an opposition to Merkel’s ‘alternativlos’ policies- are not ‘salonfaehig’ as the Germans would say. They are being smeared as the new Nazis, a smelly bunch, who can’t really be allowed into polite company.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      When did the Centre become ‘the Far Right’, ‘Fascists’ and ‘Neo-Nazis’

      It’s not that long ago, certainly within Marxist Mays mess of a premiership.
      The Fascist Left and corrupt politicians bribed by the oil rich Middle Eastern states are desperate to silence criticism of Islam at any cost and so have moved the goalposts of what constitutes ‘far right’, so that now anyone who criticises Islam is opposed to Islamic immigration or the islamification of the UK is classed as ‘far right’

      You can see the proof of this here:

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Thoughtful – As I said at the beginning, my musings are only a theory, designed to entertain you if you’re bored with the whole Brexit theatre. And as a theory, it could be wrong. But it disagrees with your theory which, if I may say so, lacks a little historical context, as regards to where this all began.
      But it’s important when the jugglers are juggling, to keep your eyes on all the balls. And have a look at their colours, while you’re at it. Personally, I watch that green ball very carefully.
      Later on, I will explain why the German Green Party, apparently focused on issues environmental, but in reality a toxic brew we will hear more of, are not the only reason. I hope you will bear with me, thoughtful. I shall try to show the very real links between your tale and mine.
      So as with all juggling, prepare to be amazed.

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