Midweek Open Thread 27 March 2019

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  1. Lucy Pevensey says:

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    • vesnadog says:

      Though that Scottish guy on the right with coat thrown over his shoulder looks very SNP.

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  2. StewGreen says:

    Lawrie Taylor just now “Trump …of course kitsch has always been associated with the far right”
    .. nutter

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  3. Guest Who says:

    Has the bbc gone near this, or has ‘editorial integrity’ intruded?

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  4. StewGreen says:

    School is pushing a “pride parade” at 4 year olds with this poster

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    • vesnadog says:

      Fred.

      That’s a complete disgrace and parents can’t seem to influence any one in charge of these things? What with Islamic terror and rape gangs. This country is dead in the water now.

      Christians go buy your life-jackets.

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  5. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    On politics live the MPs were saying a general election would change nothing.

    I think that a general election would change everything.
    An 80% remainer Parliament would, after the election, be something like 80% leave after lots of the MPs who supported Brexit but….. will be kicked out.
    You’ve seen the poster on page 1 about the voting stats.

    Of course, jo Corbyn didn’t challenge this.
    She’s either too thick to understand it or she is biased (or both)

    Also, I wish that the leaver on politics live each day would point out or ask the remainers on the show how their constituents voted. Someone from a 60-70% leave voting constituency trying to justify remaining or second referendum should be exposed.

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Did the BBC tell us that the Jihadi Brides had stoned the BBC’s Jewan Abdi ?
    Facebook copy of Sunday Times pg 27
    here’s the photo

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Napalm the lot of them. For years now the BBC has glorified these monsters, almost daily photographs of the heroic jihadists avenging their oppression from the West.
      Typical BBC photo with an appeal to half witted leftists and would be Jihadists

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      • vesnadog says:

        G.

        The BBC did the same for the poor Chechyan terrorists when they went on murdering Russian citizens. All the bias was against all the young Russian soldiers.

        As much as I dislike Putin I do love the Russian people.

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  7. Guest Who says:

    Bbc again in its happy place.

    ***
    BBC Newsbeat

    “Everyone experiments,” the Game of Thrones actress says.

    Sophie hasn’t stated how she identifies – but her comments suggest she may be pansexual

    Pansexual people are attracted to someone for their personality – regardless of their gender

    ****

    If based on their own suggestibility. May be.

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    • thehoiman says:

      By ‘personality’, I’m sure they mean either ‘bank balance’ or ‘sphere of influence’.

         4 likes

  8. StewGreen says:

    Tip : to check if a topic has been mentioned here on bBBC before
    google : site:biasedbbc.org “mark adams”
    ..then use the date tools top right to set the time range to last week/month/year etc.

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  9. Invicta 1066 says:

    Watching BBC TV go to text and UK then England and country of Kent for local news. First item is about possible saving of a paper mill…..in SCOTLAND!
    The number of times a news item that has no bearing whatever in a county is posted by the geographical ignorant BBC is amazing, often put on several different news boards at the same time.
    You can also often detect bias, especially when reporting criminal acts…guess how?

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    • StewGreen says:

      The article is tagged Chatham cos a smaller part of the operation has 86 workers there
      \\ , and Arjowiggins Chartham Limited in Chartham, Kent //

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      • Invicta 1066 says:

        Sorry Stew, using the BBC site via text button on TV, there is no reference to Chatham. You have gone onto the BBC news website, then via regions to Kent. There is lot more information but it is not on the TV site, that I tune into and which speaks the same stories across countries; try the West Midlands ans SW England

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        • StewGreen says:

          @invicta , no I just used google
          I guess the teletext page is just a condensed version of the webpage so still has same Chatham tag.

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  10. StewGreen says:

    media Orwellian double standards
    : #1 Protect the libmob and special victimhood groups
    whilst #2 Sticking the boot into white working class for one tweet or necklace

    So buried news is
    Mark Adams OBE 56 an aide to Tony Blair and John Major
    has just been sentenced 7 years for a rape of 19yo in Edinburgh

    He’s already in jail for rape of a 24yo in 2015

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  11. Richard Pinder says:

    WAR IS PEACE (Tony Blair), FREEDOM IS SLAVERY (Theresa May) & IGNORANCE IS STRENGTH (Tony Hall)
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    (7) OR ELSE.. I WILL NEVER LEAVE
    (8) MY DEAL MEANS REMAIN
    (9) BREXIT IS WORSE THAN MY DEAL
    (10) BREXIT IS SLAVERY

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  12. fakenewswatcher says:

    Just watched Kate Hoey, Labour, Vauxhall speaking in parliament.
    Top marks, 10/10,every single word 100% bang on. The TRUTH, the TRUTH and nothing but the TRUTH.
    I recommend this outstanding contribution. Light years ahead of May, Bercow, Grieve, Letwin, Soubry, Corbyn, Benn et al. JRM couldn’t even say it.

    WOW! An honest politician. They still exist.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Gisela Stuart went over to supporting May’s deal

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Pity KH was followed by the dishonest, weasel words of Chukka Umuna. What a contrast!!!
      He attacked Kate Hoey and said the promises made in the referendum were ‘mythical’ and ‘fantastical’. Something about democracy being a moving thing.
      Pity he’s not mythical, he could join the seven dwarves. Pity he’s not a moving thing; I believe Lundy is rather nice at this time of year.
      Followed by Freeman, ‘Conservative’ from Norfolk. More nauseating than Umuna, cos more coherent.
      Coherent treachery, almost every word. Example for why we are where we are.

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  13. StewGreen says:

    See BBC can connect historic sex charges and religion
    ..when it’s a 79 year old white Christian monk.

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  14. StewGreen says:

    People say New Zealand is the liberal county
    ..Downs girl refused immigration visa, cos of cost risk to NZ health system

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  15. Guest Who says:

    Norm and Laura best watch their backs.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Rape-claim student Sana Musharraf faces jail for stalking government lawyer | The Times
    AFAIK Sana Musharraf is a Muslim immigrant born in Pakistan

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  17. gb123 says:

    Watching the news with all the journos on their stands with the EU flags in the background. How I wish we had some French farmers with their muck spreaders so they could launch bovine excrement over the lot of them. It would be perfect.

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  18. digg says:

    I have come to the conclusion that we are in a pretty unequal fight here. 17 million plus individuals with no voice (engineered by the following list) versus the massed ranks of Global Social Engineers like Soros, European Dictators, pretty well most of National Press and the majority of our terrified MP’s working in cahoots. How else for instance could the remain demonstrations afford such lavish banners, travel and trappings and get so many press column inches? Leavers are being strangled and manipulated into a situation where they would have them believe they are not important. The only way to break this vicious stranglehold is if leavers can find a way to concentrate their firepower to match the well-organised other side and to shout fury from the rooftopsl The big question is how is it possible to bind them together? Farage could have done it but I think he has possibly jumped ship. We need a new Farage methinks! I would add that I really believe that all the parliamentary twists and turns are in fact part of the plan and the hope is that probably the leave side will be so frustrated and bored that their spirit will evaporate leaving the remainers to grab control.

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  19. StewGreen says:

    To save money BBC is to merge the 10pm News from R4 & World Service
    ..well many people could listen to the BBC1 News and Newsnight via the internet these days
    whys the BBC run the same type of prog on its different networks at the same time ?

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  20. Beeb Brother says:

    The Beeb loved to preach nobly about not meddling in sacred democracy amidst Russiagate. Now that turns out to have been a hoax (it was so obviously a tantrum from Democrats about losing) they have been doing the very thing they said was so heinous. Using your vast global media platform to do everything in your power to unseat a democratically elected president is as extreme as meddling gets.

    With a thought crime like Alan Sugar sending a ‘racist’ tweet they instantly demand apologies and are brutal in their retribution, often unpersoning the culprit forever like with Tim Hunt’s ‘sexist’ comment.

    Yet for their appalling, protracted crime against the people will they even apologise once? We are not dealing with confected ‘offence’ taking here over a single comment/incident: this was an assault on American democracy which they carried out with gleeful abandon, relentlessly for over TWO YEARS. The exact sort of misinformation and fake news they claim to be fighting!

    Let’s pray Trump annihilates the Democrats in 2020 and the vile BBC has to endure another four years of delicious abuse from the world’s most powerful man.

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  21. StewGreen says:

    Cambridge University is so thick they don’t understand the guilt by association fallacy.
    https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2019/03/26/cambridge-killed-jordan-peterson-fellowship-over-fans-anti-islam-t-shirt/

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      He is a global celebrity in the age of the selfie, how could he possibly vet the clothing of every person that has a photo taken with him? Plus I always suspect left wing activists have deliberately infiltrated events when stuff like this happens. All the people photographed doing Nazi salutes at EDL events were left wing activists.

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  22. vlad says:

    In the case of the woman who shoved another in the path of an oncoming bus (attempted murder?) the beeb neglect to publish the picture the police have released of the suspect, even though it could help catch the offender, and perhaps even prevent another such offence.

    Not very civic-minded of the ever-so-virtuous beeb, I wonder why.

    Oh, and in their description of the suspect, they’re able to describe her approximate age (60’s) and the fact she was with 2 children, but carelessly forget to mention another detail that would narrow the range down considerably. Silly Auntie, getting forgetful in our dotage are we?

    To a more suspicious mind, it could look like race bias, if we didn’t know the beeb were scrupulously impartial, free and fair, as Sopel and the beeb keep telling us.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-england-london-47717111/moment-woman-pushed-towards-london-bus

    https://www.standard.co.uk/news/crime/shocking-moment-woman-shoulder-barged-into-path-of-oncoming-bus-in-pimlico-a4101806.html

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    • Thoughtful says:

      Look you Wacist, can’t you see it was obviously the women who fell in front of the bus who was comitting some kind of ‘hate crime’ at the time and obviously it was because the poor effnik was being oppressed by her ‘victims’ privelege !

      You guys just don’t get it! Anyways according to FB the London Gestapo have decided to NFA the case, probably because of the above !

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      • Van Helsing says:

        Older forumites might remember BBC Scotland drama series, The Justice Game.

        Well, here’s its 21st century incarnation: throw an egg at an MP in frustration at being lied to and get 28 days in the clink. Shove someone towards an oncoming bus and get…away with it.

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    • Terminal Moraine says:

      Another story from today as reported by various outlets:

      — “Cardi B has admitted she used to drug and rob men when she was a stripper”
      — “Cardi B confesses she used to drug and rob men when she was a stripper”
      — “The Grammy-winning rapper said she drugged and robbed men when she worked as a stripper”

      The BBC say: “Cardi B has defended herself after a video resurfaced of her saying she drugged and robbed men who wanted to have sex with her while she worked as a stripper before finding fame”

      Feel that persecution.

      **NB** Cardi B is a mixed-race female rapper who amongst other things has been repeatedly critical of Trump and in 2016 endorsed Sanders’ campaign by saying “Vote for Daddy Bernie, bitch.”

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    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      She’s on Labour’s front bench!!!!!

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  23. digg says:

    In the ever more unlikely event that we do break away from the EU clutches, I would bet that the BBC already have draft plans to chase down every negative effect such as 10p a bottle more on Chardonnay 10 minutes more on your journey to your Gite and a quid more on a BMW to build the case for a re-application to rejoin. “Britains road less safe with less BMW’s” etc. etc.

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  24. Thoughtful says:

    Theresa May has said she will resign when Brexit is delivered – giving her a massive incentive never to deliver it! But even if her deal is the key Bercow says he won’t allow a third attempt unless radical changes are made, so it’s something of a hollow promise.

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      But her ‘deal’ isn’t Brexit – it’s just a never ending transition period – where we pay to stay under the EU rules etc
      So doe’s she mean she will leave to get her pay off when her traitorious sellout is allowed..

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  25. StewGreen says:

    tag : Islamophobia ruse
    Trevor Phillips letter in today’s Times screenshot

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    • vlad says:

      Talks a lot of sense does our Trev:
      ISLAMOPHOBIA AND FREE SPEECH
      Sir, As the then chairman of the Runnymede Trust think tank, I was one of the authors of the 1997 report that launched the term Islamophobia to describe genuine discrimination that we had found against Muslim individuals. I agree with Peter Tatchell (“Free speech is under threat over Islamophobia”, Thunderer, Mar 26) that the MPs and activists trying to redefine it as “anti-Muslim racism” understand neither anti-Muslim sentiment nor racism.
      In our report we pointed out that Muslims constitute a global multi-ethnic faith community, not a “race”. A “race” of Muslims would require strict equality of treatment with non-Muslims — thus removing any incentive to provide, for example, prayer rooms at work, or halal food at school. That is why the specific protection of “religion and belief” was written into the 2010 Equality Act.
      I wonder what those trying to weaponise Islamophobia think of the Muslim parents who stridently object to reference to the rights of same-sex parents in sex education classes; should we criminalise teachers who criticise these parents for this particular “expression of Muslimness” as in some way Islamophobic? And will they now demonise Mr Tatchell as an “anti-Muslim racist” for his defence of free speech?
      Trevor Phillips
      Chairman, Equality and Human Rights Commission 2006-12; Senior fellow, Policy Exchange

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  26. StewGreen says:

    Greece’s anti ISIS vetting procedures prove useless

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    • vlad says:

      Thank God for Hungary, one of the last places on earth Islam-free and therefore terror-free.

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  27. Scroblene says:

    Can someone please explain to me, that after Friday, we can’t just tell the EU to get stuffed, and if they don’t like it, well, just sue us!

    It’d take several years of ‘work’ for a roomfull of politicians, civil servants, flunkies, wasters, hangers-on, to write some sort of garbage, and by the end of it all, despite spending cash on their pensions and waste our money on wages, the general public will be far better off!

    Civil servants wouldn’t understand a ‘deal’ if it kicked her in the rowlocks, and the same goes for most ‘politicians’ as well. Hardly any of this bottom-feeder race have ever understood what it means to actually make something, sell it, and make a profit, so why not let their thick ‘skills’ be put into bat to try and sort out the UK’s two fingers? They’ll take years, and will certainly fail – they always do!

    Still popcorn for Friday – a pint or two with The Fragrant Senora O’Blene at lunchtime, and a bottle of Prosecco afterwards, carrying on until late in the evening, then on the Jack Daniels, in praise of President Trump (although he’s TT)!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      The PM foolishly went and asked the EU for an extension to the Withdrawal Agreement process. Had she not done so, we would be leaving 11pm on Friday.

      The EU all agreed on two conditions and apparently this trumps the A.50 Notice: a 12th April extension if the WA falls again in the House. (Effectively, we leave I understand on 11 April with No Deal.) If her deal passes, then we leave in May this year but cough up £39bn for the privilege and end up enslaved for the foreseeable future.

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  28. taffman says:

    “Theresa May has promised Tory MPs she will stand down if they back her EU withdrawal deal.”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47725529
    Does anyone believe her?
    Now its Parliament V The People. We have been betrayed.
    Time for another General Election. The Tory party is no more.
    Vote UKIP for freedom.

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  29. dazzer says:

    If you have been wondering why BAMEs are receiving special treatment in the media and elsewhere, the EU smuggled through a resolution yesterday on fundamental rights of people of African descent.

    That would appear like a noble thing to do – until you read the specifics.

    http://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/B-8-2019-0212_EN.html

    Maybe I’ve misread it, but it seems like the blacks are be given an extra hand up here.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Dazzer – Couldn’t possibly wade through all that, but got the gist of it.

      Claude Moraes appears to be a Yemeni-born Labour MEP, much beloved by the Guardian. Had a quick look at three articles they have on him…
      (Of course, you need to get past their begging bowl first. If they were writing good stuff, they’d be in demand, and wouldn’t need a begging bowl, is my humble opinion; but not many people read it, as it has a certain bias.).
      Whether what he does is ‘noble’, depends on where you’re coming from. He has issues with the ‘far right’; he has issues with one particular person of said persuasion; he has issues with any body making any gesture that may look like a Nazi salute Etc etc.
      But his resolution seems merely to be concerned with ‘equality’ etc. For Africans in Europe, that is.

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  30. Up2snuff says:

    Haven’t listened to any news today since turning off TWatO when it moved from Brexit matters to a playground somewhere in south London.

    Some fog does appear to have cleared today.

    The Parliamentary Labour Party have now come out of the closet.

    They are indeed, according to the BBC, Remainers.

    Barry Gardiner’s job expectancy as a Brexit spokesperson must now be limited after he said the Party is still in favour of Brexit on the TOADY Programme this morning. Barry has been slapped down, apparently, by his Parliamentary colleagues.

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  31. Kaiser says:

    nice to see that NZ has adopted the light a candle, dont look back in anger stance

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  32. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  33. Lucy Pevensey says:

    This is the Tweet that Alexander was responding to.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Now two impediments to the sell out

      No material change- Bercow

      DUP to vote against if sell out makes it to the traitors again

      So brexit isn’t going to drain away easily . As for May ? They’ll have one of those embarrassing
      Warm fairwells bet bury her in the peers with the rest of the walking dead

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    • StewGreen says:

      Ha when I looked Tuesday Nick Munroe had been suspended from Twitter
      He explains

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  34. TrueToo says:

    This statement must be the best indicator of the farce of ‘Brexit’ under Treason May:

    “If you vote for my deal I will step down.”

    Surely any self-respecting PM would say:

    “If you REJECT my deal (for the third time) I will step down.”

    It’s clear that she has no self respect and no respect for Brexit voters.

    She is really saying, accept my utter failure to stand up for the UK and I’ll relieve you of the burden of my leadership.

    What a shameful betrayal of her high office and of the public trust.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      The BBC is always fond of boasting about ‘ the first woman to do this or that ‘ – well now They’ve got the first one to have destroyed her party and made the country embarrassed to have these self important fools representing the electorate .

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      TT- On the other hand, it’s been a good day for lovers of the dystopian and the bizarre. Top notch entertainment, you might say…brought to you by the MSM.
      Really, it’s only a problem cos we’re talking about the government and the parliament of the United Kingdom.
      Just pretend you’re at the zoo, it will help you calm down no end.

      PS. I did see one person in parliament who seemed quite normal, and for whom language hides no ambiguity, and is thus not a tool to manipulate, and who is thus exempt from my ‘zoo’ comment: Kate Hoey -possibly too honest for her own good?

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Well why wait for her to step down? Sack her now and go for a no-deal withdrawal on Friday.

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  35. Fedup2 says:

    No fatal stabbings in Londonistan Wednesday – just one kid shot dead . Normality now . But it is diverse – which is good right ?

    When I was growing up here I didn’t have a care in the world until my first mugging at knife point by a black boy who took my pushbike .

    After that it went down hill . I’ve been mugged again , burgled twice , had my motor bike stolen , two cars stolen and assaulted twice .

    Apart from that all good .

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  36. Fedup2 says:

    So no commons majority for any A50 variation and some of the fools are shouting for a General election – good way to get another job .

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  37. Payne by name says:

    So the MP’s, as some of us feared, are stitching us up good and proper over Brexit with absolutely no investigaation or negativity from our state media.

    All manner of different votes on a range of apparently different proposals and all united by the one requirement to prevent Brexit from happening.

    A masterclass in getting the media to trot our your story whilst you deliberately stall and pontificate to make the negotiations as tedious and troublesome as possible.

    To see Andrea Leadsom, that traitorous individual, supporting May’s deal which is simply remaining in the EU, is just disgusting. As is hearing that JRM might support the deal.

    What a complete crock and I hope this serves as a message to all of the naive individuals on here that nothing changes and the establishment can’t be removed.

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      The PEOPLE of Britain have been stitched up, good and proper.
      Beyond belief.

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  38. Sluff says:

    The votes are in.
    I merely note that the biased BBC in its initial coverage chose to highlight and prioritise Margaret Becket’s motion for a second referendum on the grounds that it gained the most votes.
    So, clearly the BBC are as impartial as ever.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      A totally devalued becket – claimed expenses for her tropical plants , nominated Corbyn for a joke . And her view has value ? Yeah right . Snout in the trough so drain the swamp …

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    • Kaiser says:

      but then whats the question BBC

      all options possible on a ballot have been rejected by the chimps tea party

      so do we have a peoples (least hated) vote between second least hated customs union and what ever was the third least hated

      and I imagine some of them will change votes next week, but then what authority can this have if our elites are changing their mind one week to the next, they could have changed their minds again by the time they can arrange a referendum

      this is frankly getting beyond farce

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      • Demon says:

        Surely according to the shouty, vile, biased gnome nothing that failed can be brought back in this session of parliament. After all if it can stop May’s plan from being brought back it should also stop the undemocratic attempts to overturn the People’s will from being brought back for a second (or even third) time.

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  39. Dover Sentry says:

    All this would have been avoided if Parliament had complied with the Democratic will of the people.

    Parliament after all, did promise to comply.

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  40. Guest Who says:

    Ok, memory holed instantly, but little victories.

    http://isthebbcbiased.blogspot.com/2019/03/mark-easton-gets-rapped-over-knuckles.html

    One day the camel’s back will fold.

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  41. Roland Deschain says:

    Impartiality is in their genes.

    I may say you’re something else but it would fall foul of the profanity filter.

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  42. JimS says:

    A comment that I liked:-

    Things are now reaching a point where it’s feasible to say that if the BBC didn’t exist it wouldn’t be necessary to invent it.

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  43. Beeb Brother says:

    Five Live news bulletin has news of the women’s Champions’ League football, interviewing the manager and describing the game. Lord help us.

    Do they honestly think women’s football is unpopular because it does not get the coverage it deserves? With the BBC’s help they honestly think within years it will be as popular as the men’s game?

    You cannot polish a turd, and when a diamond is alongside (the endlessly fantastic men’s game) it is sick and wrong to insist on polishing the turd. No sports fan has ever or will ever give more than zero f**ks about the women’s game, whereas for many the men’s game is our main passion outside of work and family – in fact it often transcends both.

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    • Luckyharry69 says:

      @BEEB
      Its the ‘Feminisation’ and ‘infantilisation’ of society….classic Marxism.Hence why I voted to leave the EU……..its infiltrating everything across our institutions……..

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  44. taffman says:

    “Brexit: No majority for any options after MPs’ votes”
    “None of MPs’ eight proposed Brexit options have secured clear backing in a series of votes in the Commons.”
    We voted out. Its Parliament V People now .
    Drain the swamp and vote UKIP.

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    • gb123 says:

      Maybe the British public should provide the same result in the next elections. No majority for any of the options. None of the major parties can be trusted. A new option with none of them is needed.

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  45. Richard Pinder says:

    Treason May says: “If you vote for my deal I will step down. But If you REJECT my deal (for the third time) I will go to Brussels in my helicopter to ask for a long extension of Article 50.”

    British Army down an enemy helicopter over Kent. Britain leaves the EU on WTO terms. General Sir Thomas Pride said “The helicopter was correctly identified as that of an enemy of the United Kingdom”. The Queen said “O dear, how sad, never mind”

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  46. StewGreen says:

    I know there is no anti-Semitism in the Labour Party cos Lady Chakrabarti did an extensive investigated and pronounced it clean.
    Yet today after a 3 year investigation into Jackie Walker’s social media anti-Semitism Labour kicked out the party cos she wouldn’t let the investigation continue.
    Labour had decided to charge her with behaviour that is prejudicial to the party..cos until 2017 they didn’t have a rule about being anti-Semitic.

    \\ Three years after she was first suspended for claiming “many Jews” were involved in the African slave trade, around 50 activists gathered on Tuesday outside the Deptford Lounge in south-east London for the start of the hearing into Ms Walker, which could see her expelled from the party. //
    #1 Masses of the Momentum mob rushed to say she’s a “victim”
    #2 They usually said ‘she’s allowed to say such things, cos she’s Jewish’ , actually she isn’t..rather she claims to have Jewish ancestors , she calls herself a Catholic.

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  47. Richard Pinder says:

    An unconditional surrender (Theresa May’s Deal) is a surrender in which no guarantees are given to the surrendering party. In modern times, unconditional surrenders most often include guarantees provided by international law, but not with Theresa May‘s Deal. Theresa announcing that only unconditional surrender is acceptable puts psychological pressure on a weaker adversary such as the ERG, but may also prolong hostilities. Those who sign unconditional surrender documents are usually shot in the head within a year, either by suicide or by Army officers.

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    • TrueToo says:

      Richard Pinder,

      I fully appreciate your contempt for Treason May but please refrain from speculating about her assassination. Thanks in advance.

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  48. Rich says:

    I’m sorry, have we already discussed this?

    https://ww.egyptindependent.com/egypts-sis-to-summon-bbc-over-biased-coverage/

    https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20190326-egypt-calls-for-bbc-boycott-over-biased-coverage/

    I know it’s Egypt, lack of democracy but who are we to judge now and all that, but the bBC are being accused of promoting and encouraging civil unrest, in this case cheerleading for the Muslim Brotherhood. Isn’t that similar to what the Anglo-Iranian Iranian lady is currently banged up for but didn’t do?

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  49. pugnazious says:

    LOL….parliament take back control…from the people…and demands a people’s vote saying the people must be heard…whilst completely ignoring the people’s vote that has actually happened…because they didn’t like the result. Bunch of corrupt crooks and charlattans.

    Funny how the BBC just doesn’t notice a huge constitutional crisis as Remain MPs basically sack Mrs May and mount a coup to remove an elected government because they claim the government has failed to deliver a coherent policy and they can do better.

    Hmmm…wasn’t it these self-same MPs who have done all they can to block and stop Brexit who have been the architects of this failure? Labour refuse to back any deal what-so-ever in the hope of a general election, the Remainers refuse to back any deal in the hope of a referendum but it is the Brexiteers who get the blame from the BBC as the blockers of Brexit…but they aren’t blocking Brexit, they vote against a deal that isn’t Brexit and is in fact more Remain than Brexit as May compromised and neutered the deal in order to appease the Remainers…who reject it out of hand. Why? The BBC never asks why they reject May’s Withdrawal Deal. Just what do they object to? Who knows if you listen to the BBC.

    Just how are those meaningful votes going?

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  50. pugnazious says:

    Is there a concerted and orchestrated drive to undermine and malign Brexiteers? Is there an agreed BBC editorial approach on how Brexiteers and the ERG are portrayed? You may think so.

    Boris has long been the target of BBC black propaganda, his every word sensationalised and given the most negative spin in order to present him in the most unflattering of lights possible. The same can be said of Leave voters of course, so often so casually dismissed as stupid, uneducated, ignorant, racist neo-Nazis.

    Brexiteer politicians have been similarly traduced by the BBC but it seems to have ratcheted up a notch or two recently as John Humphrys calls the ERG ‘extremists’ and the next day Jim Naughtie said they would be at home in the Front National or the AFD, ‘as they have the same policies’…both of course portrayed as Far-Right Nazi parties by the BBC.

    Emma Barnett then made a sly attack with a comment about the Brexiteers who were invited to meet May recently…that they were ’13 white men’….why did she so label them that? What was her intent?

    The next day she launched a full-on attack as a female Remain Cabinet member made a lurid claim that the ERG were misogynists who only demand May’s resignation because she is female…surprisingly completely forgetting that Remain MPs have in effect sacked May and her government already…did they do that because she is female?…..

    ‘Yesterday a minister suggested the ERG would not be demanding a departure date if she was a man, and pointed to their ‘tendency to call her Mrs May rather than Prime Minister’ as more evidence of their alleged sexism.
    ‘The whole thing has a whiff of misogyny about it,’ the unnamed minister told the i. ‘They say [their opposition to her Brexit deal] is about principle, but if they are prepared to back it in exchange for her quitting where is the principle in that?”

    Why would Barnett run with that story as she did, asking people if they thought the ERG were only attacking May because she was female? Barnett is always one for cheap sensationalist Red-Top gutter ‘journalism’, always looking for some ‘news hook’ that she can use to whip up some faux outrage and fill the hours on her show with ‘controversy’ knowing she will get caller after caller shouting that the Brexiteers hate women…thus getting the idea ‘out there’….but does she have another motive? Is she hyping this story and generating that ‘scandal’ for a reason? Is she slinging mud at a prodigious rate in the hope that some of it sticks to the ERG and every time the Public think of the ERG they remember the stories about them hating women and hence react negatively to them? Is she blackening their name and forever labelling them misogynists by association however untrue? Is she turning legend into fact?

    The BBC’s own Paul Wood explains how such ‘journalism’ works….

    ‘BBC reporter Paul Wood told us ‘What a powerful medium television is…a single image can change people’s perceptions…it can change the whole conversation.’
    He was asked ‘Do you attempt to move Public and Political opinion?’
    He replied ‘You become a government employee, a propagandist if you do so’…but he was happy if his reporting had an impact…‘and we are all shallow egotists…we try to be impartial but we like to make an impact.’
    He went on to say that in Yugoslavia there was a false report of a massacre that went out on the news services….but once established as false it is too late…‘People forget the attribution but they remember the ‘massacre”
    …and of course I suspect some news services know this and publish regardless because they know even after a retraction the image or idea is still out there in the minds of viewers and readers…that little suspicion that always makes them doubt.
    His final point was ‘Crucially you have to get it right.’’

    Barnett doesn’t worry about getting it right, she ploughs on knowing full well she is wrong and is happy with it….she’s just going for that ‘impact’ never mind the ‘fact’ and is hoping people will remember the ‘misogyny’ if not the attribution, that the source was very, very dubious with an interest in spinning dark tales.

    Let’s look at the claim Brexiteers use the term ‘Mrs May’ as a misogynist ‘code word’…allegedly….I imagine if we trawled through every word the Remainers have said we would find plenty of references to ‘Mrs May’…a very selective complaint..and indeed the BBC itself proves this point in its reporting today….how many times can you fit ‘Mrs May’ into one report? Quite a lot it would seem…..who knew the BBC hated women?….

    ‘MPs from Mrs May’s Conservative Party were allowed by the leadership to vote as they saw fit, with the exception of her most senior ministers, who were expected to abstain.
    Mrs May and her government would not have been obliged to act on any of the MPs’ decisions even if they had been backed by a majority of MPs, as laws can only be proposed by the government.
    However, Mrs May is under pressure to chart a new course after twice failing to get the Withdrawal Agreement her government has negotiated with the EU passed by the Commons.
    Also on Wednesday, Mrs May told a meeting of MPs from her Conservative Party that she would step down if her Withdrawal Agreement were to get through the Commons at the third time of asking.
    How did we get here?
    Wednesday’s votes were held after Mrs May and her government were defeated on Monday in a vote that allowed MPs to seize control of business in the chamber from the government for at least a day. ‘

    And of the call to resign? Apparently the Brexiteers only demand this because Mrs May is female….they wouldn’t do it if she was a man.

    Hmmmm….who else has questioned when May is going to resign?

    Em…how about one Emma Barnett who constantly asks this question on her show and indeed asked it to May’s face not long ago….

    Theresa May avoids resignation question
    ‘Prime Minister Theresa May would not be drawn on a question about her resignation.
    Speaking to Emma Barnett BBC Radio 5 Live in a special programme, she said:”My focus is on getting this deal through”.’

    How about the misogynist Anna Soubry?…

    ”May has to GO!’ Soubry demands IMMEDIATE resignation amid huge anti-Brexit march’
    ‘Mrs Soubry said: “The problem here is Theresa May. She is the problem. “She made a desperately bad mistake. It is an intolerable situation we are in.
    “She has to go, not the government, but she has to go. We need someone who can reach out, put the country first, and put this back to the British people.”’

    How about arch-Remainer Dominic Grieve absolutely trashing Mrs May?

    How about Tim Farron [rememebr him?] demanding May resign?…

    How about ex-BBC DG Greg Dykes demanding she resign?…

    How about the SNP making similar demands last year…

    Indeed made the same call today…..

    ‘PMQs: Stewart Hosie asks Theresa May for Brexit resignation
    Theresa May is told she is “liable, responsible, culpable for the chaos” of Brexit by the SNP’s Stewart Hosie, who asked when she would resign.’

    How about the Corbynista Nova Media?….

    Why would the BBC hype and sensationalise such an obviously fake news story, a classic leftist ‘dog whistle’ smear story, about Brexiteers that paints them in the worst possble light?

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    • Celtic_Mist says:

      Yes, there was a concerted and orchestrated drive to undermine and malign Brexiteers and a carefully edited ‘Wednesday in parliament’ by the BiasedBBC was also broadcast to diminish those who would leave the EU.

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