Midweek Open Thread 20 March 2019

Happy Equinox  .

The political trial of Tommy Robinson has been put back to May .. So this is how to repress a dissenting individual .

Even the Far Left State Broadcaster is unable to keep Project Fear nonsense up as remainers make Parliament look absurd every day .

In view of all of this I would like to thank you for the restraint in your comments which is a testimony to the quality of our site .

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521 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 20 March 2019

  1. Guest Who says:

    So there I was posting on the weekend thread, when I became aware…


  2. Guest Who says:


    “We are confident this interview complies with our editorial guidelines.”

    I’ll bet.


    • Eddy Booth says:

      Pretending to man the till
      and managing to look as thick as pig shit, but gets
      125-130k a year …


      • Guest Who says:


        So, children, what have we learned today?:

        ‘It does seem as if the BBC are being spoon-fed selective information and not presenting the full truth.

        ‘It is damaging the reputation and influence of the BBC when they become a propaganda tool of any particular stance.

        ‘They really need now to have an investigation into how this happened.’

        ‘How does the Today programme define ‘truth’ these days?’

        I’ll at one of my own: “Who would like to bet that said Head’s position is still as strong now as any bbc ‘journalist’ dealing in ‘truthiness’ that suits the narrative?

        Andrew Bridgen added: ‘It’s misleading its viewers.’


      • Thoughtful says:

        Surely manning the till is misgendering and according to an earlier post, so serious that it should be regarded as criminal behaviour?

        Now I bet if someone were to report that to the BBC it would get chaged pronto, although when I first read the story I did actually think it was a tranny on the till !


    • StewGreen says:

      Straight to audio of the £125K “cleaner” Headteacher Siobhan Lowe


      • StewGreen says:

        The BBC reporter championing the piece
        .. as did lot blue-tick metro-liberals like Ed Davey here

        <That Beeboid did another PR tweet
        \\ "When we don't have the funds to hire cleaners, I clean the toilets"
        Head Teacher Siobhan Lowe tells me how she's struggling with her schools budget as millions of parents receive letters warning of a funding crisis. More on #BBCNewsSix //


      • NCBBC says:

        This deserves £125k?

        School heads are vastly over paid.


    • StewGreen says:

      Is this a PR firm bragging that they gave her media training ?


    • StewGreen says:

      And today she is selling off school land for “ambitious expansion plans”
      ..so much for austerity


  3. jip says:

    The BBC tells us of the sad story of the little girl Amber Peat who killed herself:


    And we find out from the BBC that, in her short disrupted and hectic life:

    “She attended three nurseries, three primary schools and two secondary schools, and was also registered with five GP surgeries.”

    This family, (as many of us have) had to live with unstable short term jobs, un-affordable child care, expensive short term privately rented housing, packed out GP offices, and having to have both parents work to make end’s meet.

    Yet of course over the years we have been endlessly lectured by the BBC that we have to accept the “gig economy”, that its racist to object to mass immigration pushing down wages and inflating house prices, and that National health service is an International health service because the government has poached doctors from third world countries while leaving our own children to rot.

    But despite the BBC shedding a tear in their Islingotn Latte for Amber and criticizing the social services for failing to help her, they still want their cheap Labour, so push to cancel Brexit, and their beloved mass immigration so they can feel good about themselves at someone else’s expense.

    These BBC crocodile tears are sickening. In truth they don’t give a s*** about white English girls… as is proven by their continued failure to detail the horrors endured by each of the gang rape victims in Rotherham a result of their warped ideology of multiculturalism.


  4. Dover Sentry says:

    Why do 70% of Conservative MPs and the Prime Minister oppose Brexit?


    • jip says:

      Because they are controlled by big finance and multinational corporations, both of whom are after sort term profit… and could not give a toss about the long term cost to society.


    • Swelter says:

      Because also the EU rewards its lapdogs and lickspittles with positions and money when their tenure in Parliament is ended.


    • john in cheshire says:

      There’s opposing and there’s fanaticism. These swamp dwellers aren’t just opposed to us Leaving the EU, they are zealots to the point of exhibiting a loss of self-control.

      So, my question is what’s in it for them personally? Are they so compromised; by having hidden dirt on them that they don’t want exposed, or the promise of material wealth, or the threat of loss of wealth, or threats of violence; that they see no alternative than to betray our country in order to save their own miserable lives?

      These Remainer fanatics aren’t behaving rationally but there must be a reason. For example, I’d say that Mr Beliar does what he does because he’s in thrall to satan, does that explain the actions of the others?


    • NCBBC says:

      Dover Sentry : Why do 70% of Conservative MPs and the Prime Minister oppose Brexit?

      1. With UK in the EU, our MPs do not have to do anything as far as their primary task is concerned. All legislation is in the hands of the EU.

      2. As they are not responsible for legislation, either to enact or meaningfully oppose, they cannot be held responsible for it, come election time. Thus there are no grounds for de-selecting them. They can continue till they get fed up or retire.

      3. Being a MP attracts a nice big salary, plus expenses no questions asked, respect, ability to influence, and patronage.

      4. Attending gala functions and invites to the best places in the UK.

      5. Travel Business and First class at tax payers expense

      6. Duty free stuff from parliaments very special NAAFI.

      7. Directorships

      All this and probably more, all for not being required to do anything. Probably the best job in the world.


    • Up2snuff says:

      DS “Why do 70% of Conservative MPs and the Prime Minister oppose Brexit?”

      Equally you might ask “Why does Jeremy Corbyn, who embraces nearly every Liberation Cause under the sun, not wish to liberate the UK from the EU?”


      • The General says:

        “Equally you might ask “Why does Jeremy Corbyn, who embraces nearly every Liberation Cause under the sun, not wish to liberate the UK from the EU?”

        But he did….didn’t……..did……..didn’t………did…….didn’t………


  5. Lucy Pevensey says:

    9 days

    9 more days we have to watch those who pretend to work in government & the media throw everything they can overboard in a blind panic to stop us leaving the EU.



    • Scroblene says:

      The great thing is, Lucy, that after 29th March, they can all get stuffed, as the reply from Brexiteers will be ‘ We don’t give a damn for what you do from now on, losers’!

      Just two fingers at the lot of them, but holding that little pencil at election time will be a fabulous moment to savour, as the failures in the HoC get totally stuffed, and a real democracy returns. We know all the names of the culprits, and even if the Parliamentry term goes all the way, it means more time to get some real politicians (if there are any), to do the work of making the UK great again!

      (Exits right, happily humming Land of Hope and Glory, and adjusting his John Bull underpants…)


  6. taffman says:

    Male Bovine Brexit Excrement…………………………………


  7. Kaiser says:

    keep smiling and nominate your favourites for a damn good

    all our favourites are here

    treasoner mayhem seems quite popular

    ( edited by Fedup2 please use the c word elsewhere )


  8. Kaiser says:

    meanwhle how to double your poll ratings in a year whilst in power


    look and learn spineless uk politicians


  9. jip says:

    The BBC loves to show us how repellent the lower classes are, and gloats as they are arrested for uttering words:

    “James Goddard, 29, from Altrincham, Greater Manchester, is alleged to have called the MP a “Nazi” and a “traitor”.”


    Anna Soubry, who had previously called President Trump a “dick head” was offended at James comment. So she swiftly called on the police to have him arrested for speaking out of line.

    The police complied, dragging the dissenter in to custody. Meanwhile Soubry went on TV telling the country that “these people need sorting out” like some kind of power mad lunatic:

    About two months later, to prove she wasn’t a traitor, she left the Conservative party and abandoned the Brexit manifesto on which shed been elected to try an undermine Brexit… and she also refused to stand for re-election, sort of like Hitler.

    But the BBC would like you to know that James Goddard deserves to be in prison every bit as much as Tommy Robinson. Anna Soubry is a hero… who is saving 17.4 million retarded racists from their own bigotry.

    If you Tweet otherwise, expect a visit from the thought police, and if you don’t confess you may disappear into the memory hole under a “reporting restriction” to make sure no-one knows where you went… and the BBC certainly won’t ask any questions, they will pretend its normal.


  10. Celtic_Mist says:

    It has dawned on me that it is vital that the #BBC and #Guardian etc remain in business because the world can see the far left for what it is with all it’s virtue signalling and fake morality. I only want the licence fee removed that supports the #BiasedBBC and the others will remain afloat (just) supported by their hard core of subscribers.


  11. Dystopian says:

    Has anyone yet read/seen the debate/transcript regarding the petition to stop ISIS traitors returning to Britain.
    Have a look at how the disgusting Dianne Abbott tries to skew the debate and turn it into a debate about the “far right”.
    She really is a horrible creature.

    Her first comment questions the legality of making someone stateless.
    Surely if they joined the Islamic STATE then they are not stateless.
    I’m not sure why she asks for the figures regarding how many “far right” terrorists are being monitored/referred to “prevent” as she is not very good with figures anyway!



    • vesnadog says:


      “Dianne Abbott ”

      If this pretend politician happen to become the HS I hear that even the refugees themselves are having second thoughts about buying their life jackets in France.


  12. popeye says:

    The Times going to be in a bit of trouble with the luvvies. 16 down in the crossword “Scots girl and mum reaching wicked city”. Answer: Islamabad. Islamaphobia surely, and deserving of a report to Tell Mama


  13. Fedup2 says:

    The Guardian crows that “ the BBC is to set up a charity to support local news reporting in Britain “

    Now there’s a thing . They are going to use taxpayers money to support local investigative journalism .

    No doubt it will be the ‘ right sort’ of investigative journalism which turns a blind eye to the kind of ‘ kids company ‘ corruption and concentrated on matters of which it approves – so no bias there then .
    The idea seems a long way from the BBC charter . £14 000 000 is mentioned . That’s a lot of TV licences


  14. Guest Who says:

    No, not looking bat guano at all.


    • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

      She looks like a Punch & Judy puppet


    • vesnadog says:


      Strange, but her favourite football Club is in the Law courts today.

      May we hope that some time soon certain higher earners within the rotten-to-the-core BBC will take their own employer to court in protest at their salaries being lowered because of so much flak from licence payers.


  15. Guest Who says:

    Wherever Don goes, so Anthony follows, behind, sniffing. With BBC “quotes”.


    • Loobyloo says:

      So Zurcher, of the worlds most respected, is retweeting someone from media matters, who tried to bring down Tucker.


  16. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    The beekeeper said to the “ejukachon “ Secretary “ people don’t want “no deal “ he didn’t challenge her on this . MPs don’t want ‘ no deal ‘ whereas brexiters will leave without such a sell out .

    There was no mention of a ‘ deal’ in the referendum .

    Apparently the PM is not going to ask for a long A50 extension any more which I suppose means asking to get a50 extended to the end of May so that we leave the day before the EU elections .

    Reading between the lines I reckon brexiters have done a good job convincing the good EU leaders like Hungary and Italy to block a long a50 extension .
    So – with a fair wind – there will be no change to the sell out- meaning that the speaker won’t allow another vote on the sell out leading to a full brexit at the end of May .

    I’d be glad to hear that my read of the situation is wrong or other variations on the outcome …


    • Fedup2 says:

      Toady watch 2

      Apparently cannabis isn’t good for mental health . This must be very alarming for liberal beeboids who engage with the weed . Maybe it has affected the mentality of Remainers too – plenty of muddied thinking there too. But the BBC has linked that …

      Maybe MPs should have drugs tests ….

      Declaration – despite my area of London smelling of weed all the time – I am not a taker of drugs …


      • gaxvil says:

        So how do people imbibe cannabis? Is it it by smoking it, in a joint mixed with tobacco?
        Were tobacco smokers not classed with child molesters not so long ago?


    • The Sage says:

      The WA is not a deal either. It’s a £39bn withdrawal agreement and a transition period when nothing changes. There are no guarantees in the Political Declaration just some wooly aspirations.


  17. Annunaki says:

    FFS it has come to this, you can be arrested for using the word “he”

    Oh my God I despar for this twisted country

    ‘I’ll go to jail for my beliefs’ says devout Catholic mother set to be questioned by police for calling someone’s transgender daughter ‘he’ in a tweet after they debated primary school sex education with Piers Morgan on GMB

    Caroline Farrow was on the show in September to talk about transgender issues
    She also appeared on the show in March to discuss sex education in schools
    The 44-year-old is being investigated for possible hate crimes



    • Demon says:

      And the police claim to be short of numbers??????

      I would immediately take those police and either make them walk the beat or make them redundant.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Asked to attend a voluntary interview, I see. No doubt with the threat of arrest if she doesn’t. Easy for me to say, but she needs to call their bluff on that. Tell them to eff off. They don’t want the paperwork that will involve, plus an arrest starts the clock ticking.

      And they certainly don’t want a viral video of police going in mob handed to arrest her.


      • Fedup2 says:

        They’ll do the traditional 4am visit in accordance with the Stazi Handbook .


        • Roland Deschain says:

          Which will look even better on Facebook.

          But like I said, easy for me to say.


  18. davylars says:

    This report came from the Newcastle Evening Chronicle. Another doctor / engineer up to no good.
    It was not reported by BBC Newcastle and why am I not surprised.

    An asylum seeker who subjected a “vulnerable” man to a violent sex attack blames the “immorality” on display in Newcastle city centre for his predatory attack, a court heard.

    Full report — https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/zain-osman-newcastle-sex-attack-15963903

    This I find unbelievable…
    Quote from his defence, paid, no doubt with legal aid :

    “He is an uneducated man, he was a shepherd in his own country, the Sudan.
    He had never experienced the kind of immorality he experienced in coming here and was evident in this particular area of Newcastle.
    “He came from Sudan, where homosexuality is still a capital offence, although it’s not always enforced. Alcohol is also a pretty serious offence for a Muslim in Sudan.
    “This young man had not had any experience of either of those things until he came here. Sadly he started using alcohol.
    “He lacked the kind of life experiences we know about in our more civilised community.”
    The judge added: “I accept you are now very sorry for what you did and you are a naive uneducated gentleman. Nevertheless, you knew what you were doing was wrong and you must be punished.”

    As well as the prison sentence, Osman must sign the sex offenders register for 10 years and was made subject to a sexual harm prevention order for the same period.
    Now Osman, 25, of Gerald Street, Newcastle, who admitted sexual assault, has been locked up for 15 months at Newcastle Crown Court.

    No deportation order I see……


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Why, then, are we importing hordes of these uneducated (i.e. backward) people and dumping them amongst the populace if they pose such a danger? That seems to be a breach of government duty of care, which they can’t claim not to have been warned about.

      I await the BBC investigation.


    • Loobyloo says:

      Also ‘arrived in the back of a lorry’ in other words, illegally. This article made me feel completely hopeless. How is a Sudanese shepherd going to survive in Newcastle? And why would he want to?


  19. Annunaki says:

    Sex attacker from Sudan blames the ‘immorality’ on display in Newcastle for his violent 20-minute assault on a vulnerable man in the city centre

    Shepherd Zain Osman, 25, said his victim was in ‘consensual activity’ with a man
    Osman put hand down man’s trousers last September during 20 minute attack
    He also pulled down his own trousers and bit the man who fell into roadworks
    Osman has been jailed for 15 months and has to to sign sex offenders register

    He came from Sudan, where homosexuality is still a capital offence, although it’s not always enforced.

    Oh never “their” fault is it…



    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Sounds like a public order offence.

      Surely it would be cheaper to deport the criminal to Sudan than to keep him in jail for 15 months?


    • Kaiser says:

      I didnt realise there were so many flocks of sheep/goats wandering aimlessly around Newcastle town centre in need to tending

      I also didnt realise newcastle was the first safe place by lorry from sudan

      maybe I should have paid more attention in geography


  20. JamesG says:

    I think it may be time to start a petition to repeal the Malicious Communications Act which is being used in a way that is like something out of George Orwell’s novel 1984, with people being arrested or cautioned by the police for using the wrong pro-nouns when referring to people. Would anyone on here support such a petition?


    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes I would sign but won’t . I won’t to anything to make politician s think they are “ listening to voters” . It also gives them false credibility .

      The likes of the incident I described on the previous thread where 2 uniformed coppers go to a citizens home and tell him to ‘ mind how you go’ in relation to legal comments made on the internet – point to the rise of a Far Left Stazi happily supported by the police – who are so so under strain ….

      The interchange between citizen and police was recorded and put on twitter . I think the coppers were too thick to realise what they were doing – just ‘ following orders ‘….

      I wonder if I’ll get a visit for this comment ?


      • G says:

        These, “coppers” who have been given a prominent voice (probably, ‘The’ prominent voice) in any intended criminal legislation proposed by Government that they will enforce such as that concerning ‘hate speech’. Why did they not tell the Government, “No” we will not enforce that nonsense as it will breach the trust of the public. You know, that ‘trust’ which is so-say enshrined in the Definition of Policing by Consent viz.

        “1 To prevent crime and disorder, as an alternative to their repression by military force and severity of legal punishment.

        2 To recognise always that the power of the police to fulfil their functions and duties is dependent on public approval of their existence, actions and behaviour and on their ability to secure and maintain public respect.

        3 To recognise always that to secure and maintain the respect and approval of the public means also the securing of the willing co-operation of the public in the task of securing observance of laws.

        4 To recognise always that the extent to which the co-operation of the public can be secured diminishes proportionately the necessity of the use of physical force and compulsion for achieving police objectives.

        5 To seek and preserve public favour, not by pandering to public opinion; but by constantly demonstrating absolutely impartial service to law, in complete independence of policy, and without regard to the justice or injustice of the substance of individual laws, by ready offering of individual service and friendship to all members of the public without regard to their wealth or social standing, by ready exercise of courtesy and friendly good humour; and by ready offering of individual sacrifice in protecting and preserving life.

        6 To use physical force only when the exercise of persuasion, advice and warning is found to be insufficient to obtain public co-operation to an extent necessary to secure observance of law or to restore order, and to use only the minimum degree of physical force which is necessary on any particular occasion for achieving a police objective.

        7 To maintain at all times a relationship with the public that gives reality to the historic tradition that the police are the public and that the public are the police, the police being only members of the public who are paid to give full time attention to duties which are incumbent on every citizen in the interests of community welfare and existence.

        8 To recognise always the need for strict adherence to police-executive functions, and to refrain from even seeming to usurp the powers of the judiciary of avenging individuals or the State, and of authoritatively judging guilt and punishing the guilty.

        9 To recognise always that the test of police efficiency is the absence of crime and disorder, and not the visible evidence of police action in dealing with them.”

        Any sane realist can see and understand that the police are in numerous ways in breach of their own code as set out above. I can only assume they willingly agreed with Government to put aside the code. I say this as a personal observer of the way the police apply zeal to ‘hate speech’ “crimes”.
        ‘Not fit for purpose’ is the expression that springs to mind.


        • Fedup2 says:

          I think the rot set in with Blair making the top of the police political and this flows down in order to get approval and promotion . It is inevitable that ‘consent’ will be withdrawn and they will become like the police in many other countries – avoided at all costs – outfits such as my

          Protection unit will be there to regular thought and behaviour



        • NCBBC says:

          The police have now been given a new task, more important then real crime.

          Its “Thought Crime”.

          See 1984 for details for policing policy and enforcement.


    • Kaiser says:

      I was once copped when younger riding a motorcycle without a helmet.

      they realised it wasnt the public highway, so changed the charge and fined me a tenner for riding on a byway/area set aside for pedestrians , horses and horse drawn vehicles by some law made before the invention of the internal combustion engine

      they will find away if they are determined enough


  21. JamesG says:

    This petition is just 500 signatures away from hitting its target of 100,000.



    • jazznick1 says:

      100,000 reached and still going !


    • john in cheshire says:

      Now 101,107 signatures.


    • G says:

      I willingly sign the petitions which are of particular interest to the contributors here but, the Government ‘Petition’ process is now damaged beyond repair in my view. I say this as a result of studying the attention and so-called, “debate” which ensued over important petitions. Sorry, I think, like every other aspect of, ‘Government’ at present, it is not fit for purpose.


  22. Annunaki says:

    Inside Erdogan’s inflammatory rallies: Turkish President shows footage of the Christchurch mosque massacre to incite hatred after sparking diplomatic row by saying anti-Muslim Australians would be ‘sent back in coffins’

    President Tayyip Erdogan showed the footage during a rally in Eregli, Turkey
    Turkish leader also called for the death penalty to be restored for the gunman
    He said they will hold the attacker accountable if New Zealand fails to do so
    Erdogan previously said anti-Muslim Australians would be sent back ‘in coffins’



  23. Guest Who says:

    The Harvey Throbber 300 is long as it gets.

    Sources say.


  24. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch 3

    My MP – IDS – interviewed by a restrained Humph in the main spot . As usual IDS talks sense on brexit. Labour is campaigning hard to unseat him at the election which will be a pity . His majority wasn’t much time as “labour types “ have been shipped into his constituency by the Housing Dept …

    The local council is a one party state now run by ‘ethnic minorities’ with all the corruption – family contracts – dodgy expenses – cover ups – that brings .


    • G says:

      “The local council is a one party state now run by ‘ethnic minorities’ with all the corruption – family contracts – dodgy expenses – cover ups – that brings .”
      The long and accelerating decent to?……………Karachi or Dhaka?


      • Fedup2 says:

        I wrote the bit about a corrupt council knowing a troll might challenge me . Luckily the thirdworlders running it are so stupid that they are regularly caught out through greed .

        ‘Independent auditors ‘ have often failed to make sense of accounts due to breaches or accounting rules . The council has always been …labour …


      • Banania says:

        The time is coming when they won’t need the Labour Party.


  25. Guest Who says:

    The Today Programme

    Christchurch gunman “chose” New Zealand because it is a “peaceful, inclusive nation” says New Zealand PM Jacinda Ardern.


    Emoting Arden on track to out-Justin Justin at this rate, with the turbo-charged help of the BBC who has got her on more than OCD (who may no longer serve the narrative).


  26. Guest Who says:

    Bet half the cubicle gardens went mental when this press release came in..


    Some makeup includes pork extract and crushed beetles, so if you’re Muslim, what you’re putting on your face might not be considered ‘halal’. But how can you actually check your make-up for these ingredients?


    Including the women. Who identify as such. Or are. Or…


    • Zelazek says:

      It was quite a revealing (unintentionally of course) interview, I thought. The ideas about immigration and the incompatibility of Islam and western democracy which her coalition partners espouse are literally unthinkable to her. I used to be in love with the New Zealand accent but Jacinda Ardern’s voice was beginning to grate on my ears as I listened to her plans to bring in leegislation to get rid of all these deedly weepins. The lesson we should be learning from every terrorist outrage of the last twenty years is that people of different races, religions and cultures clearly cannot live in harmony in the same territory. Politicians like Ardern won’t face up to that, won’t admit that they may have got it wrong for all these years, and are pig-headedly determined to carry on implementing their multicultural fantasy no matter how many massacres are committed in their peaceful, inclusive nations.


      • vesnadog says:


        “I used to be in love with the New Zealand accent but Jacinda Ardern’s voice was beginning to grate on my ears as I listened to her ”

        No were near as bad as Gerry McCann’s voice!


        • Zelazek says:

          People say to me, “Did you kill your daughter?”

          And I say, “No.”

          And that’s an EMPHATIC No.


          • vesnadog says:

            How often do we hear killers say:

            honest I didn’t kill anyone!

            When years later we find out they did.


      • G says:

        Backhanders from the Globalists/Soros? (or, in context, shall I call it, “baksheesh”?)


      • popeye says:

        Multicultural, by definition, rules out integration which is why we have single-race/religion/colour communities which will maintain or evolve their own standards of behaviour and ethics. When they get too large it would be similar to having a country within a country and in my opinion will inevitably lead to conflict when beliefs clash


  27. Guest Who says:

    About as coherent as one might expect. Hope this exchange is shared soon.


    • Guest Who says:

      Why do most wo.. people on screen look like a middle aged mash up of Anna Soubry and Deborah Meaden?

      Not in a good way.


  28. john in cheshire says:

    My brother tells me that he knows someone, a white proper Englishman, who foolishly ( in my view) went to fight in Syria with the Kurds. He had been informed by both the UK and the USA that he is not allowed into either country.

    I don’t equate what he has done with what the muslims have done but I suspect this individual is now a victim of politics; our craven public servants will need him in their statistics to show the muslims that it’s not just they who can’t re-enter our country.


  29. Jeff says:

    This is “going big” on the BBC.
    Virtue signalling supremo (that’s my description, not the Beeb’s btw) Jacinda Ardern, the NZ PM has called for a global effort to root out and destroy racist, right wing ideology.
    I realise that after the horrific Christchurch massacre by a lone nutter there would be a reaction. There was bound to be. What really worries me is who will come under this rather broad umbrella of “racist right wing ideology”.
    We’ve already seen slurs against President Trump. Well, there’s a surprise! Melanie Phillips has been harshly (and unfairly) critisised by that festering malcontent, Baroness Warsi. Tommy Robinson has been confronted by a feral bunch of oikish journalists. Even our own David Vance has come in for some stick on the Twittersphere. Where does it end?
    I think what they want to do is close down any conversation that might be critical of Islam. We know from bitter experience what happened in Rochdale, Rotherham etc when people were afraid to speak out; decades of mass rape and establishment cover ups.
    We cannot allow this ghastly incident or this daft, virtue signalling PC bint to curtail our freedom of speech. It’s far too important.
    As far as I’m concerned we must be free to say things others dislike, just so long as we’re not encouraging or advocating violence. It’s not just important, it’s imperative.
    I have to put up with the BBC, Owen Jones, Sky News and The Guardian. They have a massive platform.
    They’ll have to put up with us.
    That’s democracy.


    • Iain Muir says:

      “What really worries me is who will come under this rather broad umbrella of “racist right wing ideology”.”

      Anything that Jacinda Ardern disagrees with.

      This was entirely predictable. The killings in Christchurch will be used in the most cynical way to suppress opinions that Arden and her associates don’t want to be aired.

      Astonishing, isn’t it? A killer, acting alone apparently, is evidence of a widespread problem whereas numerous attacks worldwide (someone posted a list here a few days ago) is evidence of …… well nothing to worry about. This mentality isn’t confined to murder, either.


    • Roland Deschain says:

      It can’t be coincidence that all over the West this type of soppy, emoting politician has risen to the top. A politician more interested in appeasing alien cultures than looking after their own citizens.

      The one advantage we have is that these types are too busy emoting to understand why the inevitable reaction is the rise of politicians such as Trump. Who may be uncouth at times but have the interests of their country at heart. Touchy-feely politicians can’t understand this so consistently underestimate their appeal, hence their incredulous whining when they lose. Backed up by a media equally infiltrated by the same infection that has gripped Western politics.

      Make no mistake, we’re reaching the end game of a fight to the death for Western democracy and free speech. As the stakes get higher I only foresee more violence.


      • Fedup2 says:

        I still watch PMlies to play ‘ bull…. bingo with the ‘thought and prayers ‘ routine . Last week was vintage . 5 – I think . MP s asking about medicines NICE won’t approve or someone done up by the DWP .
        The original intention of PMQs was to ask about and challenge Government policy . Now it is a long list of sad personal issues addressed to the PM when they should have gone to departments ….
        .. it makes for good Teli though because the PMcan pretend she cares and the MPs can get their name in Hansard and feel important ….


      • john in cheshire says:

        Apparently Miss corset, who was a waitress somewhere, auditioned for the role she is now playing.

        Did little Jacinda also have to audition for her part in this neverending story?

        Also, probably not unexpectedly, there are people wondering if this was a false flag operation. It is certainly curious how quickly little Jacinda made the announcement about gun control.


    • StewGreen says:

      The boo-word labelling of people as “far-right”
      and then DEHUMANISING them by saying they shouldn’t have the same free speech rights as others
      … is the same as McCarthyism


    • Lefty Wright says:

      I was sure that a little while ago we were given to believe by one of our fine,upstanding leaders that violence and atrocity are, unfortunately, all part and parcel of big city life. Or do you reckon that it all depends on who the perpetrators and victims happen to be. It does seem at times that the scales of justice are in need of a little calibration.


  30. Old Goat says:

    I would just like to say that if there is such a thing as the “extreme far right”, could somebody please send me a membership form, as I’d now be more than happy to join.


    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Sorry Old Goat, I’m definitely not signing up with you – that sounds suspiciously like a death sentence in the current climate.

      I’ve now seen the leftist equivalent of the far right mentioned on Al Beeb though… apparently it’s not ‘far left’, or ‘hard left’, but ‘ultra left’. Guess ‘ultra’ makes it sound a bit cooler than ‘far’, or ‘hard’, but like the term ‘far right’ it doesn’t actually seem to have a definition of any kind, and can be lobbed around as indiscriminately as you like for effect.

      So now we can (smugly) throw the verbal hand grenade ‘ULTRA LEFT’ into everything we write, or say, about the likes of ULTRA LEFT agitator Owen Jones, encouraging ULTRA LEFT terrorism, by appearing on the ULTRA LEFT BBC… for example.


    • JimS says:

      If you aren’t part of the ‘always-right’, in ‘the bubble’, then you are ‘extreme far-right’ by definition.

      If you aren’t virtual signal Tweeting like crazy you can bet that one of your comrades will be watching your back – ready to put the knife in, figuratively or increasingly literally.

      Welcome to Utopia!


      • G.W.F. says:

        Far right, ultra right, not for me.
        I read the Guardian and I am going to sign up with the Neo Liberal Paradigm.


    • Kaiser says:

      join the lib-dems the overton window will be there soon


  31. Lucy Pevensey says:


    • Thoughtful says:

      Wow I saw that photo and first thought it was female impersonator and BBC favourite Paul O’Grady !


  32. StewGreen says:

    R4 Trailer now : Black Music in Europe: A Hidden History
    Wednesday 27 March 2019 : series 2


    • StewGreen says:

      Next trailer : “Flat 113 Grenfell Tower”
      Saturday 8pm
      FFS #MetroLiberalBubbleworld


  33. StewGreen says:

    Channel migrants : A view from the other side about last nights prog


  34. StewGreen says:

    10am Local news
    ” A swastika was daubed over a replica Fred Elwell painting near Beverley Minster has been quickly reported
    Another swastika also appeared on a building near Beverley station.”

    Hmm yep it’s vandalism, they went further and said it’s ” racist graffiti” “Nazi graffiti”
    Seems to me that the vandal did it to provoke a reaction cos it’s symbol that winds authority up.. wouldn’t surprise me if the vandal is mixed race or something .
    The only mention of it on Twitter is from the BBC.


  35. Thoughtful says:

    Happy Solstice? The Soltices are on the 21st December and 21st June ! The 20th March is the Vernal EQUINOX !!!


    • Roland Deschain says:

      Glad we got that sorted.


      • Fedup2 says:

        Thoughtful – thank you for telling me . I didn’t go to Druid School
        And it was late at night and the site was playing up but I’ll amend it .

        Is it an extremist equinox and should it be banned ? Anyway I’m never going to say it again – equinox that is ….


    • Despairada says:

      This is a really interesting site: Sunrise and sunset times and a lot more. I use it to cheer myself up in the winter when going out or coming home in the dark that longer days are creeping in.



  36. G.W.F. says:

    Jacinda of NZ, backed by the BBC is going to town on the far far far right worldwide. And in NZ the first trial for sharing the video of the shooting is taking place. 14 years max for sharing it. And why should the judge clear the public gallery for the hearing about sharing a video?

    One sometimes thinks that bans on sharing information, books, pictures or live streamed videos, is connected to a government anxious to conceal further inquiry. In this case experts on guns might ask how the gun clicked indicating it was out of ammunition, but then allowed five more shot to be fired. If it was being live streamed, then the video could not have been edited. Questions, questions.



    • Roland Deschain says:

      By keeping a lid on dissention in this manner the authorities are merely allowing the pressure to build and ensuring the resultant explosion is that much worse. I suspect Christchurch was but the first manifestation of this.


      • gaxvil says:

        Not sure. In the US they’ve had campus shootings, the nightclub shooting, the shooting of those at the Country Music concert.
        Just because in NZ, like the black church shootings, it’s possible to point up an obvious racial or religious difference between victims and shooter it’s possibly an all too easy rationale to grab on to.


  37. G says:


    Yet another sobering appraisal of, ‘where we are now’ with regard to the so-called, Withdrawal Agreement. If accurate, (and it involves International Treaty law), yet again, Treason May and her team of wasters are trying to pull the wool over the publics eyes. But in view of the fact that no one botherered to establish whether there were any legal impediments to seeking numerous attempts to obtain the approval of Parliament on the same issue (thanks Bercow), it may well be that Treason May and her team are negligently oblivious to the affect of International Law on her ‘Agreement’. Now that would be a surprise, wouldn’t it?


  38. gaxvil says:

    Taking the the same ‘deal’ back to Parliament numerous times is the same as asking if we want Brexit again and again.
    Old saying, “You can’t keep asking the same question and expect to get a different answer”.


  39. vlad says:

    I see The Veiled One in NZ (sorry but I refuse to use her name) is on a roll, accorded pride of place on the beeb webshite and – gasp – the ultimate accolade: an interview with the world’s most trusted. I’m happy the little kiwi poppet has found a role for herself on the world stage that will keep her in the news where she can keep practising her mourning face that suits her so well.
    Yes, she’s gone into full international campaign mode, woman on a mission, calling for a global fight to root out racist right-wing ideology. Much more fun than doing your job managing a small country.

    But as ususal she, and the beeb of course, are missing the point. Racist right-wing ideology is a symptom, not the actual disease; a secondary consequence, not a primary cause. And suppressing even further the free and open discussion of the problems of mass immigration and islam is MORE likely to provoke further extremism, not less.

    As David Wood articulates in his vid.


    • G.W.F. says:


      I think we should use her name at all times. She is Jacinda Yaxley Lennon Adern.


    • StewGreen says:

      Hang he was arrested for speaking on the street in 2010
      \\ (Ex-Muslim) Nabeel & other Christian evangelists were arrested by police in 2010 at Arab Festival in Dearborn, MI for disturbing peace. Later acquitted.//
      \\ After Nabeel and others filed lawsuit, city of Dearborn paid $300,000 to Nabeel and other Christians arrested in 2010 at the Arab Festival.// 2010 video


    • StewGreen says:

      He argues that violence often comes from suppressing free-speech
      instead of having things on the surface and discussing them.
      .. Islamists get to feel that violence is an acceptable reaction to people speaking up.
      – People who want to challenge Islamic dogma get to thinking , they might as well use violence, cos speech is suppressed.

      However what about the NZ guy ?
      Surely he was able to express his opinion freely, before the attack.
      Wood argues that he wanted to cause an over-reaction which would thus bring the matter to a head.


  40. G.W.F. says:


    See how the UAF and Stand up to Racism – founder member, David Cameron, ran together Brevik and Tommy Robinson.
    Hey, imagine if Anna Soubry had this treatment



  41. gaxvil says:

    I heard people express sympathy for May, ‘What an impossible job’, they say and yes, it is impossible to to trick all those who voted leave.
    Even with the bbc and MSM working their socks off for two years, producing vast swathes of propaganda, she and they fail to realise that even poorly educated, lowly paid people can have an intellect rivaling and often surpassing theirs.


    • NCBBC says:

      gaxvil: she and they fail to realise that even poorly educated, lowly paid people can have an intellect rivaling and often surpassing theirs.

      This is The First Law of commonsense – Commonsense is not common, and is generally found where not expected.

      The Second Law of Commonsense is

      In the universal sense, in a closed system, Commonsense always decreases with time.

      This is akin to the Second law of Thermodynamics – Entropy always increases with time.


    • vesnadog says:

      The voters know what they voted for and England expects – or, else. Watch this space. Or watch that pew which the remainer MPs sit on as they will soon be vacant for more loyal, more honest, more patriotic MPs.

      Talking about loyalty. We’ve not heard a peep from the Queen though?


  42. gb123 says:

    I think the perfect phrase to answer all our media and politicos with the “far right”, “progressive”, “moderate “,”socialist”, “anti fascist” etc etc ect. Is……
    Alrighty then. Maybe it would be understandable as it is defined in the Urban Dictionary.
    “A phrase used to dismiss the weird/stupid/unexplainable actions of another person. Most often used to buffer a pregnant pause after someone has said or done something that makes absolutely no sense. “


  43. jip says:

    In BBC headline news:

    “Christchurch shootings: Jacinda Ardern calls for global anti-racism fight”

    “New Zealand Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern has called for a global fight to root out racist right-wing ideology following last week’s deadly attack on two mosques in Christchurch.”


    Funny how after suicide bombs, stabbing attacks, truck ramming, mass child rape, attacks on gay nightclubs, Christmas market attacks, beheading, planes being flown into buildings, slavery, ISIS, jihadi brides, honour killings, and so much more…

    … that these pieces of human excrement and the cancerous BBC never call for Islamic Ideology to be confronted and rooted out.


    • Doublethinker says:

      Exactly. An excellent post.


    • NCBBC says:

      Does she really mean global?

      The most racist societies in the world.


      India is top.


      • vesnadog says:


        “Does she really mean global?”

        She should look closer at NZs motorbike gangs such as “The Mongrels” and the other gang members in NZ. Truly terrifying, I lived there for many years and saw it on a daily basis. Of course up north where we are we never get to hear about it.

        Thinking of the ALL BLACK rugby players – then double their size then you get some idea what the little ol NZ copper is up against.

        The US gang members look like truant runaways in comparison.


    • Scroblene says:

      The sad issue is, that these people were voted in to forsee things, not wring their little hands after the event.

      Then they all bugger off and ‘learn lessons’, when we’re paying them to know about their work before anything happens, not afterwards. For God’s sake, they’re supposed to be leaders, not followers!

      My MP is Greg Clark, and he’s still in Form 3 where anything sensible needs addressing. I’ll not vote for him again.

      Nine days to seeing the bbbbbbc weeping into their lattes, and blaming everyone but themselves – can’t wait!


  44. The Sage says:

    All male line-up sexist, all-female line up not sexist:


  45. Doublethinker says:

    For the past two years I have expected that we wouldn’t leave the EU. What I was eager to see was how that outcome was portrayed by the establishment as being democratic. I assumed that whilst quite prepared to ignore the referendum result the elite weren’t ready to be seen as anti democrats , they would want to concoct a democratic fig leaf to hide behind. I was wrong. It is now clear that they will ride rough shod over democracy and are quite happy for the electorate to see it. This can only mean that the elite has decided that their power is un challengeable and that they can rule as they like without reference to the voters.


    • G says:

      But in the sure expectation that they will receive a mauling nay, a culling come next election, what will stop them meanwhile conspiring to undermine the next election?
      Oh! some will say: ‘the Fixed Term Parliaments Act 2011 will prevent any conspiracy between all Parliamentarians to delay or halt the next election’. Section 1(5) & (6) states:
      “(5)The Prime Minister may by order made by statutory instrument provide that the polling day for a parliamentary general election in a specified calendar year is to be later than the day determined under subsection (2) or (3), but not more than two months later. (6)A statutory instrument containing an order under subsection (5) may not be made unless a draft has been laid before and approved by a resolution of each House of Parliament.”
      Moreover, Section 7 is even more helpful to a dishonest Parliament –
      “(4)The Prime Minister must make arrangements—(a)for a committee to carry out a review of the operation of this Act and, ifappropriate in consequence of its findings, to make recommendationsfor the repeal or amendment of this Act, and(b)for the publication of the committee’s findings and recommendations(if any).(5)A majority of the members of the committee are to be members of the House of Commons”
      There you have it: all in place. Would you trust this bunch of wasters to do the right thing? Watch this space.


      • gaxvil says:

        And backs to the wall the two main parties with, of course the bbc, will conspire to maintain their positions as the only choices we are allowed and PR will not be on the agenda ever.


      • Doublethinker says:

        They don’t care about elections. The MPs might but their puppet masters don’t . They will have thought this through and decided that the current bunch of MPs are expendable and can quietly put out to grass , with a good bag of oats of course, and new puppet candidates put in their place. Any new party, eg Brexit Party, SDP or UKIP will be undermined and the new Parliament will still mainly be composed of their placemen or placewomen whether Labour or Tory. Indeed I watch with interest to see how the UKIP, SDP etc are undermined and how the Westminster Parliament accelerates transferring its power to the EU or some other unaccountable body. The only good thing about this is that they will get rid of Corbyn as he is anti EU. It’s a coup and most people haven’t noticed, the perfect type of coup.


        • vesnadog says:

          Strange how quite those PAID-BY-THE-HOUR Lords/Ladies in the house of Lords are lately. Coincidence?


  46. Fedup2 says:

    Apparently there has been bad weather in some bits of Africa which has led the UK government to give away £6 000 000 taxpayers money to make politicians feel good .

    I think it’s the same amount of money that dropped year on year from the nonsense red nose pudsey charity thing the State broadcaster rolls out each year following the constructive racial comments by that font of intellect David Lammy MP…

    I’m in favour of charity – but at home – not a jolly giveaway to corrupt states other than our own one which will only see Blighty as a mug ….


    • Loobyloo says:

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think children in need is used for domestic causes 🙂 I’m sure it’s as bad as comic relief in other ways.


  47. fakenewswatcher says:

    May is on Beeb TV, attacking parliament.
    A little late.
    I don’t believe a single word she says. She lies like other people breathe.
    And she sounds more like Labour than ever.
    Cross-party deal coming up, with UK staying in the customs union?
    She needs to go.
    Regrettably, the Merkel guide book says: hang on, hang on, hang on, regardless. You ARE the state.
    And May has learned.
    In fact, for the skills of deception and manipulation, May has caught up with teacher, and could even…?


  48. StewGreen says:

    Pinker is on Radio2 now