Start the Week Open Thread 18 March 2019

We will have to get used to Far Left BBC types being cheerful as the threat of Brexit is lifted.Brexiters will cease to be heard . Project Fear May be put on hold for a bit .

Thats one narrative . The other is that UK leaves the EU is 12 days .

over to you .

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610 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 18 March 2019

  1. pugnazious says:

    BBC keeps trying to make some equivalence between the threat of Islamic terrorism and that from the Far-Right….but even its own report shows that is nonsense….

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47626859

    ‘European far-right extremism

    Europol, the European Union’s law enforcement agency, recorded five right-wing terror plots in 2017, all of which were in the UK.

    This was out of a total of 205 potential or successful attacks recorded by European intelligence agencies, with 137 “separatist”, 24 “left-wing” and 33 “jihadist” plots among them.

    In 2017, a total of 1,219 terror suspects were arrested. Of these, 20 were classified as far-right extremists (705 were “jihadists”).’

    So 5 FR plots and 24 left-wing [not even ‘Far-Left’] and so remind me why the BBC thinks the Far-Right is the greatest threat?

    http://visionofhumanity.org/app/uploads/2018/12/Global-Terrorism-Index-2018-1.pdf

    The Global Terrorism Index tells us that from 2002-2017 there were 96 deaths from FR terrorism….most of those by Breivik of course.

    In the same time there were 2,436 deaths caused by terrorist attacks….vast majority by Islamists. And yet the FR is the threat the BBC wants to prioritise.

    Note the GTI is nearly all about Islamist terrorism….the FR barely gets a mention.

    Did laugh to hear someone complaining that the NZ terrorist compared himself to Nelson Mandela…forgetting of course that the BBC’s own Mark Easton compared islamist extremists to Mandela, Churchill and Ghandi and told us that history shows that we have a lot to learn from ‘radicals’

    OK…what can we learn from Brenton Tarrant’s ‘manifesto’?

    Should we value extremism?

    History tells us that the development of new ideas of governance and government require people to think radically. Extreme views are necessary to test the wisdom of the mainstream.
    It is one thing to legislate against activities which can be demonstrated to incite violence or hatred. Quite another to pass a law that can silence anyone who the government thinks has “dangerous views”. What would Churchill, Gandhi or Mandela think?

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    • Kaiser says:

      there is some strange graphs there

      left right unidentified?

      americans vs european right wing

      no direct british right vs islamist

      seperatist without defining if its left or right based/religious

      no world left right jihadist

      non of these can be overlaid in any comparative way

      these are completely meaningless

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  2. StewGreen says:

    Talk of blockade of Holyhead Ferry on Saturday
    and other blockades
    \\ Mr Charlesworth said he has met with North Wales Police today in order to discuss their plans for the first go-slow protest on Friday at 6.30pm- instead of 7pm as originally planned.
    The protest will run between Deeside Industrial Estate to St David’s Park in Ewloe and is likely to take around an hour, with several journeys between the two sites. A short rally will then take place on the industrial estate.

    A second protest is to be held on Saturday evening (March 23) at around 10pm, where Holyhead Port could be blockaded. //
    https://www.dailypost.co.uk/news/north-wales-news/protesters-plan-go-slow-holyhead-15993852

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    • vesnadog says:

      Been thinking.

      I wish the UK lorry drivers who voted Brexit would block every main road, entrance to Parliament, airports, roundabouts, throughout the UK and stay there while being fed and watered by the locals in every location the blockages where. My opinion is that this would be catastrophic for this PM and Labour. The French strikes by their lorry drivers ALWAYS achieved (s) a total collapse in French politics, the pressure being so bad on their parliament that many leftist laws were trashed even before they got off the ground.

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  3. Fedup2 says:

    There is a tweet showing some footage of uniform police officers going to someone’s home and telling someone who put a non criminal comment on twitter and being told to “ mind how he goes “ . It ends with the idle threat that if his comments had been criminal the visit would have ended “differently “.

    Hard to imagine this happening in Britain . We seem to have our very own starsi – complete with informants , being denounced and censored . I’m starting to worry about the existence of this website.

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  4. StewGreen says:

    TRnews : The Usual time wasting and postment tricks
    TOMMY Robinson’s ‘contempt’ case at the Old Bailey that was due to take place on the 22nd March relating to contempt of court has been adjourned until at least May.

    The activist, who was unlawfully jailed last year will have more charges brought against him in May after the British Government deemed it was ‘the public interest’ to do so.

    The activist was set to face contempt of court proceedings AGAIN, for reporting on the case of a Muslim grooming gang in Leeds last year, in which he was unlawfully jailed behind a cloak of secretiveness and a media ban, which Politicalite broke to bring out the news of his jailing to the people
    https://www.tr.news/court-delay-tommy-robinson-contempt-case-adjourned-until-may

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  5. StewGreen says:

    What BBC Vic Derbyshire reporting on pimping by Arabic speakers !

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    • G says:

      “The intelligence suggests they’re branded with a tattoo of their owner’s name in Arabic”.
      That must surely mean that the, “owner’s” wish to conceal their true race by using Arabic to imply they are, Arabs. Any bets the “owner’s” will turn out to be elderly British white males?

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    • vlad says:

      They’ve always had a penchant for slavery, but of course never get flak for it, only whitie.

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  6. JamesG says:

    “A devout Catholic and mother of five has been asked to attend a police interview after being accused of using the wrong pronoun to describe a transgender girl.

    Caroline Farrow, was contacted by officers from the Surrey force to inform her they were investigating an allegation that she had made transphobic comments on Twitter.”

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2019/03/19/devout-catholic-interviewed-police-trans-twitter-row/

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    • gaxvil says:

      Nice to know as stabbing, hit and runs etc., become commonplace the police are not being distracted from investigating serious criminality.

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      • vlad says:

        I self-identify as a schizophrenic and demand to be referred to as ‘they’.

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  7. Guest Who says:

    These two seem nice.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Blair is as repulsive as usual . I wonder how much Soros pays this barrister ?

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      • Eddy Booth says:

        But I thought everyone had finally realised how replusive he is.
        I’ve never heard anyone say I wish tony blair was back as PM
        So how could it be imagined he could help a campaign?

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        • Kaiser says:

          These MPs, they’re a disgrace

          This former PM is a war criminal, a traitor, a liar and a disgrace

          fek orf blair you have done the world enough damage

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        • Banania says:

          He has helped the Leave campaign certainly.

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  8. Fedup2 says:

    NEW THREAD TIME

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  9. Guest Who says:

    What the entire bbc does not know, or wants to….

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  10. Guest Who says:

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      How do they count these things though?
      What if someons does a few hours work a week, as millions do , and then get a shed load of welfare top-ups, (Tax credit- – child tax credit- housing benefit – universal credit etc )
      are they counted as employed but not also as unemployed
      even though that’s their main income ?
      Just asking – not judging people just doing their best to survive .

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      • Kaiser says:

        part time , zero hours , millions of students doing shit courses

        productivity ? GDP per head ?

        WTF does highest employment mean with rapidly growing population

        how many are permantently “disabled”

        spin, smoke and mirrors

        bliar taught his disciples well

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  11. Deborah says:

    10pm news on BBC 1 and floods (was it Mozambique?). I was so enraged about the gloating of Sophie Rayworth as she asked David Shukman if it could have been caused by climate change. Shukman responded by saying we couldn’t be certain (BBC twisting response to prove their impartiality) but the floods would have been made by the seas rising due to melting polar regions. (How much sea levels had been rising, had I thought been less than 5mm if at all) plus Shukman explained that water sodden land caused by climate change would make things worse. Sorry if the last bit is very vague, I didn’t think it worked as an argument using the science laws I was taught in school and my blood pressure was over the legal limit.

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    • vesnadog says:

      D.

      “David Shukman”

      Oh this guy seen behind his fellow BBC reporter reporting on the very same incident at the very same time so we know how daring the BBC is in wasting the licence fee:

      QCiY9RE.jpg

      This was report was from South Africa I believe.

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  12. Kaiser says:

    interesting discussion on radio 4 this evening with an actual scientist

    scientists come to different conclusions when looking at the SAME data set depending upon

    where they started from
    what they want to see
    whether they have a personal interest
    whether they have a preconceived bias
    whether they have career interests
    whether they have a FINANCIAL interests

    shame it was about the downside/benefits of ecigs
    settled science phaaa

    credit to radio 4 for once though

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    • gaxvil says:

      As a scientist said, “The opinion of a scientist is not necessarily science”.

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Kaiser shush .. a producer will be in trouble if it gets out the BBC allowed “proper science on”

      Actually that prog is one of the few that hasn’t been purged.
      It’s great service the way that instead of just giving PR to a view, Dr Margaret is bright on to challenge it, and often debunks it.

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  13. Fedup2 says:

    Watched c4 state news for the first time in a long time . They are going full Grenfell on the New Zealand ‘incident ‘ and it looks like it’s going to run for days – and then start again when the trial starts .
    Maybe someone will ask the NZ PM why semi automatic weapons could still be purchased in NZ ….

    … also .. it looks like there is gonna be a whip round for the latest African storm …. I don’t know whether David Lammy MP will be objecting to such a post colonial insult because -mas we all know – Africans can do it for themselves ….

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  14. David R says:

    Sort of O?T but Climate Chege.

    On R4 this morning the reporter said there were only 4 helicopters to deal with the latest African floods and then went on to describe how he and his camera crew used one of them to find out how bad it was. He even said they had landed in a stadium where 600 people told them that they had no food or water. What the hell is a reporter and film crew doing wasting life-saving resources like that? Surely it could have been helping?

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