Start the Week Open Thread 18 March 2019

We will have to get used to Far Left BBC types being cheerful as the threat of Brexit is lifted.Brexiters will cease to be heard . Project Fear May be put on hold for a bit .

Thats one narrative . The other is that UK leaves the EU is 12 days .

over to you .

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610 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 18 March 2019

  1. africamike says:

    Over an hour since the Dutch authorities released the name of the Turkish man wanted in connection with the shooting, but the BBC still keeping this news quiet.

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    • Old Goat says:

      They are probably desperately searching for an anagram which will make his name sound white Caucasian…

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      • pugnazious says:

        Probably ‘Tommy Robinson’…they blame him for Finsbury Park and NZ so why not this attack in Holland?

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        • Lucy Pevensey says:

          Pug,
          His real name is Yaxley-Lennon didn’t you know? He must be to blame with an extremist right-wing name like that!

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          • Foscari says:

            Actually Lucy, before long the BBC will be telling us that
            Gokmen Tanis the Turk was just an anagram for a Polish , English Gentile, by the name of Stan Ken Goim .

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          • pugnazious says:

            Yeah I know coz I listen to the wheedley Needle on 5 live and his usual problems with white people…he always calls him ‘Yaxley-Lennon or whatever he calls himself’…in fact he did it today. Doesn’t like to discuss if Tommy Robinson is right or not just uses insults to try and shout him down. Quality stuff from Needle who really really does have a problem with Whitey.

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  2. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC haven’t yet shown a photo of the terrorist in Holland or given his Turkish name. Sky have done so.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47611811

    https://news.sky.com/story/live-police-shooting-on-dutch-tram-is-possible-terror-attack-11669318

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    • vesnadog says:

      BBC head man still waiting alongside his red phone to give green for go no doubt.

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  3. G says:

    They come and they go. Rise to prominence and importance then fall and disappear. All repeat the same mantra heard from their many predecessors. Months on and they will not even be remembered for anything significant. So it will be for Dame Louise Casey who was interviewed by Lady Brooke on TWATO earlier in relation to, ‘integration’ and her condemnation by those that resented her reference to it being helpful if foreigners spoke English.
    The Dame was responsible for a controversial report on so-called, ‘Integration’ which it is speculated or, in BBC jargon, “some say”, was censored by the Home Office for its criticisms. If that report read like the content and sequence of her interview with Lady Brooke, you could not call censorship important. It an utterly inconsistent and rambling response to Brooke, it was impossible to conclude Casey had anything constructive to offer. Certainly anything to distinguish her views from, for example, Trevor Philips.
    What might be a ‘light-bulb’ moment for Casey, would be a reading of the quaran from which she might learn that islam does not want to integrate. In fact, quite the opposite, it goes out of its way to stay removed from the kafir aka, ‘infidel’. She ought to ask our ‘Trev’ about that.

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    • Thoughtful says:

      As I posted earlier, again if the Tories had any spine at all they would have sacked this far leftist woman who described ‘jaw dropping ‘islamofauxbia’ in the Tory party yet was incapable of actually pointing to any examples.

      The woman clearly had no real world experience of her subject, and her report read like a text book of some far flung students union approach,

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    • Oaknash says:

      I listened to some of this interview on WATO and I very much got the impression that Casey wanted to talk about her normal progressive nonsense lie why “austerity” drives young people into the arms of extremists – but all good ol Sarah wanted to talk about was “right wing ” extremists.

      In the end I found it almost quite amusing where it seemed like Casey was getting a bit pissed off cos our Sarah only wanted to talk about right wingers and not Caseys normal agenda. I think she got quite shirty at the end talking about Muslim Wimmin not being allowed to learn to speak english so they had to go with a man to the doctors, unfortunately Sarah had other fish to fry so refused to pick up Caseys female oppression point.

      I just thought ha, ha, ha they cant even agree amongst themselves.

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  4. pugnazious says:

    Why has the BBC on the radio been hinting all morning that the shooting in Holland was by a Far-Right person? Just been able to access news proper and not what is fed to me by BBC news bulletins and its a whole new world….and a probable Turkish attacker.

    Maybe a ‘Far-Right’ Turkish Islamo-fascist, Nazism and Islamism being so very closely related?….but then why wait for the facts when you can spread misinformation and speculation just as they did with the Boston bombings when they announced all the evidence pointed to it being a white-supremacist when in fact none of it did.

    Will we be hearing anguished deliberations about the Media’s and politicians’ role in this as their rhetoric about Islamophobia and Islam under attack in reaction to the killings in NZ must surely have contributed to the state of mind of the attacker in Holland…giving him licence to attack The West. Somehow doubt much introspective guilt from the virtual hijab wearers.

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  5. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Students perform Haka for attack victims””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/world-asia-47609212/new-zealand-shootings-christchurch-students-perform-haka-for-victims

    Snowflake virtue signalling on an epic scale.

    They have achieved what, exactly? Impressed Islam? I think not.

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  6. StewGreen says:

    Farage

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  7. pugnazious says:

    Remember the native American elder ‘vietnam vet’ who wasn’t? Well the man who busted the Media’s bubble and called out their lies has been banned from Youtube for doing so….reporting that the ‘Vietnam Vet’ and Recon-Ranger was in fact a USMC reservist whose trade was electrician and who worked on maintaining fridges in Nebraska not Vietnam.

    Truth and consequences…one man tells lies and the Media laps it up, one man tells the truth and gets driven out of town.

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  8. StewGreen says:

    Last week I didn’t chance to say, that once again #BBCWomansHour seemed obsessed with Virtue Signalling
    that they care about black & non-white people MORE
    Leading to totally disproportionate coverage
    Friday, Saturday, Monday, Wednesday, Thursday
    then back with another black prog on this Monday
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    • StewGreen says:

      And Today the R4 page looked like this
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      • StewGreen says:

        Then as I was checking that a trailer comes on for Satuday
        ..Yes yet another show making Grenfell into a shrine of white-guilt

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    • pugnazious says:

      Stewgreen…a WH presenter told us before that mixed-race people are more beautiful, more intelligent and more mentally stable that us white folks…..don’t know how they get away with it….or the old racist, sexist, ageist slur about those ‘male, pale and stale’ people that BBC presenters love to laugh about….wouldn’t dare do the same for Blacks or Muslims.

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  9. StewGreen says:

    Then tonight the Virtue Signalling continues with a BBC4 repeat

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  10. StewGreen says:

    Something different ?
    5:30pm Talking Pictures : Robin’s Nest “some of the jokes will be quite jarring in this PC era!”

    ( Ed note ‘x’ changed to ‘s’)

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    • vesnadog says:

      Watched the movie: Jesse James last night. In the movie the old guy says: “he’s got a darky called pinky” with him.

      This TV company allowed the name darky to be said.

      Other British TV companies sounded-out of the old chaps darky.

      Where’s me Cadburys dark.

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  11. Guest Who says:

    Tea time BBC FB surf was…. ‘unique’:

    BBC Hereford & Worcester

    The kids’ TV show Fireman Sam is being criticised for discouraging gender equality.
    Do or did you have a career that’s traditionally seen as more of a ‘man’s’ or ‘woman’s’ job?

    Newsbeat

    “I’m not male or female, I think I flow somewhere in between,” says Sam Smith.
    Sam’s come out as non-binary, and says understanding his femininity has improved his body confidence

    The Today Programme

    “People’s ignorance and intolerance is going unchallenged” says Security Minister Ben Wallace. He adds the mainstream media is a strong “rock in a storm” in challenging such views.

    The Today Programme

    Security Minister Ben Wallace warns a Christchurch style attack “could happen” in Britain.
    Full podcast here: https://bbc.in/2F9BbMO

    If the Government or BBC are under any illusions this BS is fooling, or impressing anyone, they might read the comments on these threads which… could be going better.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Late additions. And ditto:

      BBC Radio 4

      The ideas which led to the New Zealand mosque attacks are “very much prevalent” in British society, Muslim Council of Britain’s Miqdaad Versi tells The Today Programme.
      More: https://bbc.in/2U0Frrv

      The Today Programme
      ·
      Security at UK mosques is “non-existent” says Muslim Council of Britain’s spokesperson Miqdaad Versi. He says there’s real concern that mosques are open and thus vulnerable. https://bbc.in/2TP1ykx

      BBC.COM
      Anger and solidarity at mosque attack event

      The Today Programme

      British government officials forged documents to produce “fake news stories” during the Cold War, newly released files show.

      About this website
      BBC.COM
      ‘Fake news’ sent out by government department

      The Today Programme

      The media has a responsibility to tackle hateful and intolerant speech says Security Minister Ben Wallace. “It’s not political correctness, it’s about humanity, decency and tolerance.”

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      • Loobyloo says:

        Oh dear, that article is not for the feint-hearted
        https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-47612616

        How does Sam Smith know what it feels like to be a woman?? I don’t profess to know what it feels like to be a man. And anyway, a rather broad category – as I’ve said before about gender bending – men to women can never know what it’s like to menstruate/have period pain, be pregnant/give birth etc. And I wouldn’t profess to know about their characteristics. I think he means he feels feminine (I think he says that later).
        Oh, and some of the folks in that piece really are just weird. Very worrying.

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        • pugnazious says:

          ‘I think like a woman sometimes’? Er….so women think differently to men? Just checking coz last time a man said that he was sacked from his job…not just one man of course but man after man after man …hounded from their work. Now it’s OK to say it. Great.

          Newsbeat grooming kids.

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  12. Fedup2 says:

    Not state broadcaster

    But Bercow again trying to destroy brexit by refusing to bring the sell out back for a third time unless ‘substantial ‘ different vote from the last time ….
    ….maybe he is after an excellent ‘no deal ‘brexit after all. Or he might be described as a term which cannot be used on this site ….

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  13. Jerry Owen says:

    Apparently the police have found a car loaded with explosives outside a mosque in Bradford , but say there is nothing to worry about as they have managed to push it back inside.

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  14. Fedup2 says:

    The bercow is on a peak ego charge – telling the Commons what a great geezer he is and that there won’t be a 3rd vote on the sell out document unless there is a change – such as the font size or different styling . Bercow is classic ‘small man’ syndrome . When he ever leave that job the poor devil won’t know what to do with himself … unless the Reich EU gives him a job….

    Since the Reich has declared the sellout finished there can be no further vote on it ?

    So no need for parliament to do anything but wait for the UK to leave the Reich on Friday week…. right ?

    The saddest sight is watching MPs playing the Speakers’ tune by doing their Uriah Heap obsequious Act which he obviously love . His missis has a lot to answer for

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    • JimS says:

      I don’t understand your point.

      Surely Bercow is right, the government doesn’t get to keep pushing the same motion through the house time after time. We used to have the same principle in law, the ‘double jeopardy’ rule, the state shouldn’t get to keep putting someone up for trial, but we know what happened to that. Good for Bercow keeping to the rules.

      Mrs May’s ‘deal’ isn’t a deal, it is an agreement to keep us locked into EU rules, how is that in any way Brexit? If we want Brexit proper then Mrs Merkel’s stitch-up must fall.

      Of course Mrs May is now threatening to withdraw Article 50, (My ‘deal’ or no Brexit). Well she can try it but thanks to the delightful Gina Miller forcing the government to bring forward legislation to invoke Article 50, rather just sending in the letter, the government will need new legislation to withdraw Article 50.

      Sometimes our enemies kill themselves with ‘friendly fire’.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        The point is that he allowed the second vote without a material change but hasn’t allowed the third one .

        There is also mention of the Commons being prorogued? . If this were to happen I wonder if Bercow could be fired – and – since he is so fond of not blindly following precedent – not being ‘elevated ‘ to the House of Lords …. now that would be something …

        As an aside – I think he knows that a third vote on the sellout would fail on numbers as well because the DUP can’t be bribed with cash when the future of the Union is at stake …

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        • Kaiser says:

          im guessing because mayhem claimed there were changes to the deal last time so it was a different vote

          but this time she isnt even bothering to claim that

          so he has done the right thing for once (followed the rules, why is a different question)

          mayhem will be back on the redeye to brussels

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        • JimS says:

          I think Bercow conceded that perhaps he shouldn’t have allowed a second vote but there was an argument that Mrs May had secured some changes, which in reality didn’t amount to anything.

          I take that as meaning that May was given the benefit of the doubt but that she will need to make a far stronger case to go for a third go.

          From a Brexit point of view the WA is fatal, we get locked into the EU’s grip for as long as they like – and keep paying the money! Absolutely ideal for the EU! Even withdrawing Article 50 would be better. Esther McVey has got it wrong, Mrs May’s ‘deal’ isn’t leaving the EU at all, it is more ‘remain’ than ‘remain’. At least while we are a full-member of the EU we can invoke Article 50 again when we want.

          Mrs May’s ‘deal’ is like something the Mafia would think up, “We ah breaka da legs! You a wanna leava nowa? You jus a trya!”

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          • Kaiser says:

            Even if there was some easy way to leave the Mayhem deal

            lets be quite honest here, who in our parliament would invoke such a thing

            Mays turd of a deal has to go

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      • theisland says:

        Bercow will have done the right thing for the wrong (remoaner) reason. I assume May will now ask for an extension while more reversing plots are hatched (?Revocation of Art. 50, ?Losers’ Vote etc.).

        No further vote and no extension please.

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        • Kaiser says:

          it will be a short extension to avoid the eu elections
          immediately followed by a long one
          whilst they try and cook up some kind of pan-european crisis so the EU can come riding to the rescue

          I am surprised the remainiac torys didnt accept corbyns offer of support if the WA3 included a Remain vs May 3 losers vote

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        • Banania says:

          O Salvini, save us!

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Only 2 tweets mention today is the National Day for Action against CSE

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    • Kaiser says:

      thats islamophobic have you forgot about NZ already

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    • Banania says:

      Has it been cleared with the Muslim Council of Britain ?

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      Tell someone?
      Someone like a care worker, a council employee or police person?
      So they can protect the perps.

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  16. taffman says:

    “UKIP call for referendum to scrap assembly in 2024”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-politics-47611702?fbclid=IwAR0Bp9xX38a859KP24Y4wnmj8W-qjeq1WOoE37oFJxRyjGMyDQYycf8-_AA
    Great, as it does nowt but waste money!
    Vote and support UKIP to get rid of two White Elephants.
    Our MPs won’t like it , coming out of the EU and getting rid of the Welsh Assembly means they will have to work for their money now .

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    • Kaiser says:

      how many sitting politicians do we have now across the lords commons assemblies MEP’s crime commisioners , Mayors

      they really have managed to create an ever larger pool of vacancies for themselves

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  17. Eddy Booth says:

    Bookies have it :
    UK To Leave EU With No Brexit Deal Before 1st April 2019
    7/2
    What happens next in Brexit.?
    my stomach isn’t up to google news today.

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    • taffman says:

      Mrs Chamberlain has to go . She has destroyed the Tory party single handed. What on earth were they thinking when they put her in as their leader . Prorogue Parliament and lets get UKIP in power.
      UKIP are the only party with Tory ideals.

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      • Kaiser says:

        Is it not within the power of the ERG to do the same by simply siding with corbyn on a no confidence vote and just let the last few days of this madness float away

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  18. davylars says:

    Well the Turk has finally been named and shamed by the BBC.
    Could sense the pain in the reporters voice.
    However I wonder if they will join the dots and acknowledge this

    ISTANBUL — Turkey’s president showed parts of a video taken by the attacker who killed 50 people at two mosques in New Zealand to comment on what he called rising Islamophobia.

    President Recep Tayyip Erdogan showed the clips over the weekend during campaign rallies for March 31 local elections. The video, which was blurred but had clear sounds of automatic gunfire, was shown to thousands of people at the rallies and was aired live on Turkish television.

    Erdogan used the video to comment on attacks on Islam and rising Islamophobia. He accused the Western world for not calling the attack on the two Christchurch mosques “Christian terror,” when acts committed by Muslims are called “Islamic terror.”

    He also referred to a manifesto by the suspected attacker, Brenton Tarrant, in which he threatened Turks and vowed to make Istanbul “Christian owned once more.”.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Mr Tarrant obviously a bit of a historian then ?

      I was going to suggest to the PM of NZ that Christchurch might be twinned with somewhere – but it turns out it’s already twinned with …. Christchurch … Dorset . Fair enough – not mohammedmosque then …

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    • pugnazious says:

      Should be called ‘Liberal progressive terror’ as it was ironically in support of all those liberal, democratic, progressive values the BBC professes to value and is always so keen to promote…at least when in favour of non-white people.

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    • davylars says:

      Oh. According to BBC news at 6, it’s a domestic incident….

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      • john in cheshire says:

        LBC called it an honour killing earlier. And I thought that’s quite brilliant. It moves us away from the tired old lone wolf story, it avoids having to tell us the killer is yet another muslim and it uses a term that sounds worthy. You know, people died but they died honourably.

        I think we’ll be seeing more honour killings from now on.

        Of course they now need to kill the muslim killer so there’s no need for a proper investigation, trial and to reveal that he was no doubt ‘ known to the police’ before he acted honourably.

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  19. taffman says:

    “Third Brexit vote must be different – Speaker”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47614074
    There is a HYS running. Unless I am reading them wrongly, they appear to be pro EU ?
    Is Al Beeb fixing them again ?
    The people voted to get out of the EU – no mention of any so called ‘deal’. Simples.

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    • Kaiser says:

      its is kind of odd how 3 out of 4 times the HYS is vociferously pro-brexit

      Then the occasional 1 is massively remain

      it is so easy to do any child could fix it, especially with the beebs worst comments section on the internet software

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  20. pugnazious says:

    LOL…BBC cheering Bercow’s refusal to allow another vote….apparently you can’t keep voting just to get the result you want. If only eh? 2nd referendum anyone?

    Petualnt Remainer TIG member….’You can’t have a petulant Executive coming back and asking us to vote again and again’..lol

    You can guarantee Bercow would have found a wrinkle to allow a vote if May’s deal had won and Remainers demanded a revote.

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  21. NISA says:

    Nothing happened in Utrecht today according to BBC 1 6pm News (at least above the fold). But Clive Myrie gives us 5 mins plus from New Zealand. Wonder why he did not press management to send him to Nigeria to cover the murder of Christians there. Myrie is bidding to take over the mantle of emoter in chief Fergal Keane

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    • vlad says:

      We wouldn’t want the news from Utrecht to distract from the much more important news from NZ, would we!

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  22. Beeb Brother says:

    ‘Students perform Haka for victims.’

    If I were killed by some moronic terrorist I would hope my family and friends would absolute hate the people who did it; maybe spit on an effigy of them in my honour. All this candles and singing nonsense is just pathetic and must embolden other attackers. Have they realised by now that despite all the cuddles and candles the attacks continue to happen?

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  23. vlad says:

    I repeat an earlier question, now even more relevant: If the evil ideology of the ‘far right’ is responsible for Christchurch, surely the beeb will be keen to explore which evil ideology is responsible for Utrecht, in its unbiased, balanced, impartial, free and fair way?

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  24. 7Clubs says:

    What put Theresa into No 10 was the moronic bungling of Brexit MP`s starting with Boris,Gove and Leadsom.
    And since then have any of them done any good in the Cabinet?
    Take the actual Brexit Ministers David Davies,Raab and now the current clown Barclay.
    And then there was the mistiming of the plot last December of trying to oust May.

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    • Kaiser says:

      do the tiggers votes for may to stay still count after all they are effectively dead to the Torys

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  25. fakenewswatcher says:

    2 thick skins.
    I have mentioned many times how May has been learning from Merkel. They are so similar in many ways: thick-skinned, manipulative, dishonest, determined to stay in power.
    When every bit of logic suggests Merkel should be long gone, she’s still there. This is why I wonder how soon we will be able to get rid of May.
    Is she too, going to cling on to power, regardless of the cost to party, nation, and the sanity of most of the ‘ordinary citizens’?
    Different countries, different histories, different parliaments, different motives and dynamics, but the same stubborn personalities. Staying in power is all that matters. ‘Doing the honourable thing’ is unknown. ‘Democracy’ is an empty word, serving only the self interest of the person.
    There is one small difference, so far: May has not, as yet, declared the borders of the country as open, beyond defending etc
    Not as yet. At least, not openly. (Too preoccupied with sabotaging Brexit, while pretending to implement it..)
    Thank goodness for small mercies.

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Neither of them have children. So, no vested interest in the future, in the countries that their children and grandchildren would have been living in.

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      • Guest Who says:

        Ironic bookend to the likes of Birthstrike as championed by the BBC, as certain groups crank out kids by the dozen.

        Be interesting what Greta and OCD have to say. Even ,ore so if they get asked with an opportunity to phone a friend before answering.

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      • Kaiser says:

        ledsom warned us the media buried her

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      • fakenewswatcher says:

        Ian: This may be THE decisive, but generally unrecognized factor, when we think about it carefully. Very similar personalities. Backstabbing evident in immediate environment. (Merkel actually did it to Kohl; Gove got rid of Boris at the crucial moment). And dare one observe a certain unusual coldness of blood? Or is that a bridge too far in psychoanalysis?
        There seems to be no way around the dilemma. Even if we had a written constitution, how can one put into it ‘PM must have children and grandchildren’?(If so, how many?)
        Can’t be done. But, based on observing the two ladies in question, I would be in favour.

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      • Lucy Pevensey says:

        “Neither of them have children”

        I can’t see how that is relevant.
        I don’t have children. I never wanted any. I still care a great deal about what happens to this nation, the next generation and the Western world as a whole. Not breeding is no reason to disregard the future of your own people.

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        • Kaiser says:

          but you lucy are not a politician who cares for little beyond the next election

          but it is odd that may merkel macon trudeau all seem to espouse the same lunatic tendencies

          I guess it is natural for people to try and figure out why these people think in the counter intuitive way they do, and identify commonalities

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        • Expat John says:

          Not everyone who wants children is able to have them. Mrs EP and I are in that category.
          We care deeply about our country of birth, being abroad now largely for other family reasons.
          Oh, and I’ve stood in 7 public elections, so I guess I was once a politician, or at least an aspiring one.
          You don’t have to have children to care about the future facing forthcoming generations; in fact, there are certain subject areas that you can view somewhat more dispassionately.

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          • Mrs Kitty says:

            Same here, I was never able to have the blessing of little Kittys but I always thought of future generations of my country even though I live abroad.

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            • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

              One of the most stupid arguments against people who don’t have children is that they have no stake in the future. I’ve seen that put on this site many times but I’ve refrained from arguing about it. I am sorry to see that some people on here keep repeating it. It does nothing other than reduce the credibility of the site. It is not scientific and just plain daft.
              The only point I will concede is that women who become politicians may be slightly more likely to to have no or less children than the average. This is because they are less likely to pursue a demanding political career.
              That said it is also a fact of nature that social species have a collective identity and will put themselves forward to defend the group/extended family/ tribe and ultimately the nation.
              Let’s take the people who fought and died in two world wars for Britain. Every year we remember their sacrifice. They were young people, many of whom (perhaps the majority) had yet to start families and knew there was a good chance they wouldn’t survive to do so. Are we going to dismiss them too?
              I’ve also known so many useless blokes who lifetime’s non achievment left them without anything be proud of except the number of kids they produced. Often the kids would be as useless as the Dad so it was nothing to crow about. And of course many dads desert the family and take no further interest in them. How does this make them qualify for having a stake in the future?
              Britain’s greatest wartime Prime minster before Churchill, Pitt the Younger was childless. The Britain at its greatest existed because of him.
              For the record I didn’t have children by choice. I am also not in the slightest bit offended by the ‘No stake’ arguments because I think they are silly and pointless. But I do know they are very hurtful to people who wanted to have children and for whatever reason failed. I think that is very sad and I feel for them every time this bogus assertion is brought up on here.
              Perhaps those who want to press this point could direct their comments towards me in future. I won’t be hurt. In fact I could say “Make my Day…”

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              • Expat John says:

                Thank you Mrs Kitty, thank you Yasser.

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              • Mrs Kitty says:

                Thank you Yasser, often when I hear the words “you don’t have children ” I have to bite my tongue. I know they don’t realise the pain they cause and also anger.

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  26. Guest Who says:

    Not BBC, but… a headline I thought I would never see in public discourse.

    https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/333312/live-snuffing.html?

    BBC does, of course, have a vast and intricate relationship with Magic Mark’s little platform.

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  27. Guest Who says:

    Again not the BBC, but does describe its output too.

    https://www.mediapost.com/publications/article/333177/shrill-comedy-on-hulu-forgot-to-be-funny.html?

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  28. taffman says:

    “Third Brexit vote must be different – Speaker”
    It has now been nearly three years after a simple Referendum which saw the biggest vote in the history of British democracy and we are still in. All our remainder parliament has done is to sit on their hands in the hope of wearing us down and defy the people of Great Britain, while the whole world watches and laughs .
    Following today’s fiasco will Oily Robbins be the first to ‘do a runner’ ?

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    • Kaiser says:

      one paper is claiming May has offered to remove him (from futher brexit work) if her WA3 is accepted

      big deal his work is done Horse stable door and him laughing all the way to the lords

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  29. Kaiser says:

    not sure the bbc expected this hys to turn on them

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-47571253

    cold war fake news

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  30. Kaiser says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p073v5mv

    homeless black boy is chess champion in new york

    black tick
    chess smart tick
    homeless tick

    small print

    “Tanitoluwa Adewumi left his home in northern Nigeria with his family in 2017, because of the ongoing attacks by the Islamist militant group Boko Haram.”

    perhaps they should have saved this one for later

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  31. StewGreen says:

    Like the BBCnews SkyNews thinks it is complying with impartiality rules when it itself is pushing a political campaign
    SkyNews created @SkyOceanRescue to push the anti-plastic agenda
    and chants a slogan #PassOnPlastic

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    • BRISSLES says:

      All the media are on one project kick or another, if its not plastics or the oceans, pushed by the tv channels, its the d/mail pushing the volunteer angle on litter picking.

      I suggest targeting every worldwide manufactures of single use plastic – that sorts that out, and for every kilo of fast food litter that’s picked up then levy a heavy fine on that particular food outlet, the same with beer and fizzy can producers. (I’m full of bright ideas)

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  32. Dover Sentry says:

    Not on BBC:

    “”Brexit STALEMATE: Theresa May warned no deal Brexit is now ONLY option””

    “”FORMER Cabinet Minister Sir John Redwood has warned Prime Minister Theresa May there is “no basis” for proceeding with negotiations with the European Union as he insisted a no deal Brexit is now the only option for Britain.””

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1101629/Brexit-news-Theresa-May-UK-EU-no-deal-latest-vote-today-BBC-John-Redwood-MP

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  33. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    Don’t know how true this is, it appeared on ‘breaking news’ on my Facebook page.

    ACCORDING TO GERMAN MEP, ELMAR BROK, A REQUEST TO DELAY BREXIT COULD BE VETOED BY ITALY’S DEPUTY PRIME MINISTER MATTEO SALVINI AFTER AN ALLEGED AGREEMENT HAS BEEN REACHED BETWEEN HIM AND NIGEL FARAGE.
    Mr Brok claims that Farage has said that an agreement is in place for Salvini to ‘refuse any extension’ the British government requests.

    For the EU to grant a Brexit dealy, the remaining 27 member states must agree unilaterally.

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  34. StewGreen says:

    Who’s using the Dissenter plugin from Gab ?
    I see this is the top discussion now
    ..then below that Sargon discussing Chelsea Clinton
    OK I have to write html cos a dissenter address that mentions Youtube gets converted into an embedded you you vid ..Here Dissenter discussion

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  35. StewGreen says:

    Warning bad language
    but we see it’s the media bod who as usual is being disgusted

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  36. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  37. StewGreen says:

    Ha I like the Leave march slogan
    : “Are we going to let the London-liberals WALK all over us ?
    … No we’ll WALK all over to London”

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  38. StewGreen says:

    As Guido says about Bercow stickers
    D19X5nSW0AYCwDw.jpg

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  39. StewGreen says:

    Well said that man

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  40. Geoff says:

    Tend to record BBC local news just for the weather, skim through the stories and never do they fail to raise the blood pressure.

    Tonight a report on BBC West about immigrant mothers not contacting the NHS because they’re sacred they”l have to pay, but never mind those nice ‘immigrants welcome’ feminists Tell Mama are there to help them out with interpreters and demanding the NHS don’t charge them. FFS the reason they’re not presenting is because they’re fucking illegals and worse they’re dropping spoggs.

    The BBC even allow uber feminist ‘Bristol Green and Black Ambassador’ Jasmine Ketibuah-Foley to present the item, probably at the licence payers expense.

    Fuck the BBC for giving these feminist Marxists airtime.

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  41. vlad says:

    Well here’s a surprise: after the attack in Utrecht, al beeb reports that “authorities say the attacker’s motive remains unclear”.

    And it seems the Dutch authorities have their own dummies (or dhimmis) as dumb (or dim) as our own dumb dhimmis at the beeb:

    “…. at a press conference on Monday evening, a prosecutor said the attack could have been motivated by “family reasons”.

    Sure, we’ve all had a tiff with the missus, grabbed a gun, hopped on a tram and mown down everyone in sight.

    Oh, and our grumpy muslim had previously been arrested because of his ISIS connections, and had fought in Russia’s republic of Chechnya, where Jihadist groups have long operated.

    Ok Sherlock, let’s see if we can possibly put the pieces of this puzzle together:

    Yesterday a number of his co-religionists are massacred in a terror attack in NZ.
    Later, Erdogan repeatedly shows the footage at a number of large scale rallies, whipping his supporters into an anti-western frenzy.

    Hours later a Turkish muslim, with connections to IS and a history of fighting in Chechnya, mows down strangers in a tram.

    Baffling isn’t it? It has to be a family tiff, it’s the only explanation that fits.

    But of one thing we can be sure: the attack had nothing to do with islam, which is a religion of peace.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-47615231

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    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Family reasons? Could have done it on behalf of his brothers? As in: “The believers are but a Single Brotherhood” (Quran Chapter 49 Surah Hujuraat verse 10).

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    • Dave says:

      ‘Family reasons’? Maybe someone had besmirched his family’s honour…

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  42. Guest Who says:

    The bbc is nothing if not predictable.

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  43. StewGreen says:

    Mike Hookem asks why the media aren’t truthful on WTO

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  44. jip says:

    Very interesting video, of more Panorama lies?

    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCO8X67txG_ZY_0wJZ2jFwZw

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    • Kaiser says:

      everytime ISIS was losing a chemical weapon “went” off

      the question always was why would assad run the risk of provoking full on war with the entire west when he was winning

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      • Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

        Dead right, Kaiser. It was a question that was asked by a few people at the time and ignored by a few thousand journalists.

        There never was an answer that was anywhere near satisfactory.
        I wonder why?

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  45. Vonbedda says:

    https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/03/18/leave-mps-must-take-responsibility-horrors-long-brexit-delay/amp/

    Hmmmm the leave MPs are to be blamed…right…not the 480 Remain MPs trying to shaft the Leave vote ? I suppose one could say leave MPs stopped the remain MPs from giving us a false BREXIT…so yes I guess they have delayed it…. to ensure we get it.

    Dunno how they get away with being so blatant …I can imagine some unintelligent person just lapping this up like it’s accurate news.

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  46. Guest Who says:

    Anthony quotes OCD, who is told what to say.

    Anthony is also in top form still.

    Meanwhile Nick is emoting bigly.

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  47. Guest Who says:

    Meanwhile here is Katya (warning… just the start of a lot of tweets).

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    • Kaiser says:

      jeez she is actually right for once

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      • Kaiser says:

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  48. Guest Who says:

    BBC News

    Rising Democratic star Beto O’Rourke has broken the fundraising record previously held by Bernie Sanders.

    ***

    Nicely impartial.

    Has Katty thrown her kickers at him yet?

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    • Rich says:

      Guest,

      I wonder if any of those donations came from his father-in-law, apparently conservatively worth around $500,000,000.

      He made his money in real estate and property development, quite coincidentally I’m sure, businesses that politicians often show a keen interest in.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      This short video by Steve Turley shows two things:
      The true character of Mr O’Rourke – fantasising about running over children in his car and
      The MSM knew about this and didn’t report it during the recent congressional elections.

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  49. vlad says:

    Erdogan earlier accused the Western world of not calling the attack on the two Christchurch mosques “Christian terror,” when acts committed by Muslims are called “Islamic terror”.

    It might seem like a minor point, but such logical non-sequiturs and taqiyya-lies need to be countered at every opportunity before they gain traction, especially as many useful idiots in the West – who really should know better – are all too ready to believe and repeat them.

    The attack in Christchurch would indeed be ‘Christian terror’…

    IF the NZ killer had been a practising Christian.

    If he had shouted ‘I murder you infidels in the name of Jesus’.

    Or ‘my Christian God is the greatest’.

    IF there were a huge number of other Christian terrorists committing thousands of murders in dozens of countries in the name of Christianity.

    IF the New Testament repeatedly exhorted Christians to kill muslims or other infidels.

    IF Christ hadn’t preached peace, love and forgiveness of one’s enemies.

    IF he had carried a copy of the Bible.

    IF the NT promised Christians a fast-track to heaven for waging war against non-believers.

    IF the Pope, or our dear old doddery Archbish, or a multitude of Cardinals, Bishops, and priests had sanctioned his action.

    IF he belonged to a militant terrorist Christian sect with a track record of murder and terrorism.

    IF Christianity was committed to establish itself worldwide by force.

    IF Christianity considered the followers of other faiths as apes and pigs.

    If… if… if…

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    • Eddy Booth says:

      Erdogans right, we should use similar terminology for these atacks: if he gets his way I’m sure we will see Brown Supremacist in the headlines next time,,,

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