Start the Week Open Thread 11 March 2019

Maybe the coming week will finally determine whether democracy is achieved after the Brexit Vote or whether the Far Left BBC and other anti democracy organisations and individuals will continue to be agents for the EU .

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318 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 11 March 2019

  1. Thoughtful says:

    BBC seemingly operaing an illegal recruitment scheme excluding white people.


    • StewGreen says:

      All of Sunday’s post were on page 4 of the Weekend Thread

      Oh we’ve got a new John Sweeney Cc BBC Panorama thread


      • TrueToo says:


        Yeah and not one of the several links operate. I’m gonna hafta redo them now.


        • StewGreen says:

          What @TT means is that on his John Sweeney Cc BBC Panorama thread, the links got screwed up,
          … cos in making clickable links you need to use normal quotation marks, not stylistic ones
          ..So @TT went back replaced his with normal quotation marks ..and they all work now


    • Lucy Pevensey says:

      “BBC seemingly opertaing an illegal recruitment scheme excluding white people.”



    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      By the sound of their continuity announcers, it seems they have already banished white people.


    • Old Geezer says:

      No, Blair changed the law to allow bias against white people. (But not black!!!)


  2. TrueToo says:

    I’m biting my nails over Brexit here and I’m thousands of miles away.

    All the best to you guys.


    • taffman says:

      Do not fret, If we don’t get Brexit it will be the Tory MPs that will be biting their nails.
      Vote and support UKIP.


      • TrueToo says:


        Ok, here’s hoping the Tories get their just deserts if they betray Brexit.

        Rather, let’s hope they don’t betray it.


    • Up2snuff says:

      TT, thanks.

      I have a knot in the pit of my stomach right now. In addition, I have no idea what the reason of a higher purpose keeping us trapped in the EU might be. I hope that previous sentence makes sense.

      We need a massive miracle (or four or five), to happen this week, mostly inside the House of Commons and No.10 but maybe elsewhere as well.


  3. Nibor says:

    BBC ,

    The people hate you more than you hate Trump .


  4. JimS says:

    7.15 pm Sunday Radio 4. Where is the effin’ comedy?
    The all-female version of ‘The Now Show’, ‘Where’s The F In News‘ makes the ‘joke’ that the political scene hasn’t changed since their last series, in much the same way as they haven’t changed either, with material that still isn’t even worthy of the cutting room floor.


    • taffman says:

      Al Beeb don’t do comedy.


      • Helena Hand-Basket says:

        taffman, BBC comedy is deader than a Python parrot. It deserves a grand marble monument to long-past joy. This thought struck me yesterday, after I’d been hysterical with laughter at the dialogue of a 1983 ‘Ony Fools and Horses”.

        The inscription: ‘Causes of death: political correctness, incompetent management and Russel Brand.’ It could be funded by subscription. Would any of you like to set up a website to organise it? I’ll start it off with a tenner, and my vote for the statue on it would be a goose-stepping Basil Fawlty.

        Seriously, though the disappearance of quality comedy from mainstream outlets has been part of the problem, as one talented writer could cut though the absurdity of PC in half an hour.

        Don’ t forget, also, there’s many a true word spoken in jest. The epiosode I enjoyed at the weekend involved Del’s scam to get his family (with aged grandfather) rehoused from a high-rise to ground-level. He said he’d failed to achieve it before, as he ‘didn’t have nine kids and speak with a foreign accent.’


        • Up2snuff says:

          H H-B, g’day. ” I’ll start it off with a tenner, and my vote for the statue on it would be a goose-stepping Basil Fawlty.”

          That photo, that was on this w-s in the last week or so, shows amazing athleticism on the part of John Cleese. Thought occurs that he could make a valuable contribution to a mixed-gender or trans-gender chorus line.

          “Eyes and teeth, girls, eyes and teeth!”


        • Thatcherrevolutionary says:

          ‘Roast Battle’ with Jimmy Carr on Comedy Central is worth a watch if like me you crave non-pc comedy.


          • cromwell says:

            i am actually enjoying the simple humour of On The Buses at the moment. itv 3 mornings ,its old un pc comedy that went out with the pc mad brigade.i am suprised they still show it but its funny and takes me back to a place a long time ago when life was more innocent.


        • Jeff says:

          Even these priceless comedies that are really quite recent are now being censored.
          I was watching an edition where Delboy is taking the mickey out of an Irish mate of his and he uses some un PC language that we would have been familiar with at the time. In the episode I saw David Jason’s mouth is moving but producing words that didn’t correspond with what he was saying. It had been dubbed.
          This is the BBC equivalent of book burning.
          I don’t think there’s a cat in Hell’s chance we’ll ever see Til Death Us Do Part again.
          Silly moo…


  5. RJ says:

    This is ITV not BBC and it might be incompetence rather than a deliberate historical inaccuracy, but……

    I’ve just watched the first episode of the new series of Midsomer. I think Causton is now a suburb of Bradford, but that’s a different subject. The episode began in 1539 with the monks at Causton Abbey executing one of their number in a particularly gruesome way. There could be a debate as to the powers of an abbot, but what we can be sure of is that the execution couldn’t have happened in 1539. By then Henry VIII had closed almost all of the abbeys and those that were left had Cromwell’s commissioners crawling all over them. The last two were closed in the early months of 1540.

    The producers could have picked any date for the execution, but chose one that made a nonsense of the historical facts. I’d like to think it was ignorance, but schools seem to like the Tudors so it’s more likely to be deliberate. To ITV as well as the BBC British history doesn’t matter.


    • Rob in Cheshire says:

      A very good point, I thought the same thing. Anyway, the idea of a monk being boiled alive in a cauldron of tar in 1539 is too absurd.

      However, I must give the production high marks for being woke. Although the Asian pathologist has now gone, at least they had a white character whose wife was Asian and whose ex-wife was black, just as you would expect to find in any average village in PC bizarro world.


  6. taffman says:

    “Big Brexit vote: What do I need to know?”
    What Al Beeb wants you to know.


  7. Deborah says:

    Watched Antiques Roadshow tonight. Producers had obviously been told that there were not enough people of colour being shown every crowd scene focused on somebody non white (sorry I no longer know the politically correct terms since Miss Rudd got things wrong). They managed to find ladies in saris too. But it is all so obvious. I had a feeling the lady that Fiona asked about the glass had appeared in a recent programme (she is quite stylish), makes me wonder if she is part of the production team, or an extra to fill a quota.

    Son ran in the London Big Half marathon today. When I went on line to find his time, web site full of black and Asian runners, one page with about 6 competitiors didn’t have a single white face. I know Sir Mo isn’t white, but apart from the Kenyans and Mo at the front, usually most of the other runners are white.


    • Helena Hand-Basket says:

      Deborah, I cannot avoid the suspicion the BBC use a casting agency (‘Monorities are Us’, perhaps?) for their Roadshow crowd scenes. There may also be one called ‘Diverse Divas’, judging by singers on Songs of Praise and Last Night of the Proms.

      I wouldn’t dare take my own family heirloom for a valuation. Since it’s a letter from Enoch Powell to my late mother, I would probably be removed from the venue with the assistance of Fiona Bruce’s designer boot. She’d certainly reach for the hand sanitiser.


      • Scronker says:

        I was always of the opinion, when I used to watch the BBC that a section of the Antique Road Show crowd consisted of burglars and other n’ere-do-wells looking for any valuable swag. There were certainly some suspicious characters then.


    • Old Goat says:

      It’s fairly obvious that in this programme (Antiques Roadshow), and others, that the positioning of “spectators” is carefully choreographed. Clearly, from the low numbers of BAMES, most are just not interested in this sort of programme, so they hunt down those that they can find, and plonk them near the front, where the “diversity” may be seen. That was pretty evident last night, as most of the onlookers were whiteys!

      It’s all very well embracing “diversity” and complaining that there aren’t enough “coloureds” in various leisure activities – does it not occur to people that they may not want to attend, or visit the countryside, so it’s pointless insisting that they do.

      There’ll be selective recruiting on the grounds of diversity, rather than competence, next – oh, there already is!


      • Scronker says:

        I remember some 40 years ago a program on ITV which tried to encourage Pakistani immigrants to go rambling on the Pennine Moors and enjoy the fresh air.
        What they did not seem to realize was that these people weren’t interested in fresh air as they would sooner stay at home watching cricket on the telly.


    • tarien says:

      All part of the Multicultural propaganda infused into all European Societies by the European Union. It will be a very rare occasion when we shall see on TV or such, an all white parade of people to any event, and even in some of our small villages throughout, the programmers will deliver into the prog, a coloured Doctor, Vet female, Pub Owner, shop keeper, tractor driver female gay, whatever, so as to cover the Multi Society-oh are we not, now so careful about touchy coloureds such as Miss Abbott et al. Where has it all gone wrong? Perhaps Clement Atlee and Enoch Powell had a point.


  8. Rich says:

    Any of you across the water notice this one tucked away on the bBBC webshite NI Politics page?

    Hoping no-one will notice now what we’ve known all along.


  9. StewGreen says: seems the main news website not doing pseudoo-liberal groupthink


  10. pugnazious says:

    If it’s not on the BBC it never happened right?

    The BBC seems to have missed something…the hijacking of Brexit by hardline Remainers.

    Every man and his dog knows that Brexit has been delayed and thrown into doubt, the country left confused and angry, businesses left totally uncertain about the future because of hardcore Remain resistance to Brexit and their manoeuvrng to slow, soften or stop it altogether.

    The EU has been running rings around May, who is also part of the problem being a Remainer herself and clearly intent on ‘accommodating’ Remain demands. Barnier knows full well that a Remain dominated Parliament is not going to allow a ‘no-deal’ which is our most effective negotiating lever…thus we are in effect powerless due to Remain schemes to derail ‘no-deal’ in conjunction with the EU’s own command and control trickery as it deploys the weaponised Irish border issue as its gamechanging tactic.

    The BBC ignores the extremist Remain betrayal, and the EU’s threat of terrorism as a negotiating tactic, and instead targets the Brexiteers as the problem as the people, ironically, who are supposedly blocking Brexit, constantly suggesting it is a small group of fanatical hardline Brexiteers who are the fly in the ointment carefully avoiding mentioning that just about everyone voted against May’s deal for their own reasons.

    Today we have several stories, most coming from interviews, ironically enough, from BBC programmes, that report Brexiteers saying it is Remainers in Cabinet who are trying to sabotage Brexit…and yet the BBC totally ignores these damning claims…even as they are made on their own programmes.

    David Davis says Cabinet ministers are undermining negotiations…you might have thought this would be ‘dynamite’ news, that British politicians are working to undermiine the British national interest and serving a foriegn power…but no.

    Fraser Nelson in The Spectator a couple of days ago noted Hammond [whom May should have sacked long ago] was using his pivotal role in government to sabotage a deal…

    ‘He has won. He was against Brexit and has not quite stopped fighting those who advocated it – on the radio yesterday he distinguished himself from “the Brexit wing of the party.” But he has second best: a Brexit deal which is EU membership in all but name. Perhaps to be followed by a proper Brexit, perhaps not. And why is Theresa May unable to negotiate anything better? Because no one can negotiate anything without the threat of walking away. Why is she unable to threaten that? Because Philip Hammond has been so effective in making sure that a no-deal Brexit didn’t fly. ‘

    Again of course the BBC doesn’t hold Hammond’s feet to the fire and interrogate him on his clear attempts to undermine British negotiations.

    Iain Duncan Smith says in The Mail…

    Useful idiots in the Cabinet destroyed our only leverage: IAIN DUNCAN SMITH says the EU are simply laughing in Geoffrey Cox’s face

    ‘The problem is that the Attorney General was sent to negotiate these changes without any leverage at all. And this is because from the end of 2017, the Government has made a series of fundamental mistakes.

    And now, to make matters still worse, there has been a damaging revolt by three Remainer Cabinet Ministers – Amber Rudd, Greg Clark and David Gauke.

    Astonishingly, they broke the vital rule of Cabinet collective responsibility and mounted a public attack on the Government’s clear position that No Deal would be better than a bad deal.

    Small wonder that when even a lawyer of the standing of Geoffrey Cox QC seeks the most reasonable and limited reassurances, the EU simply laughs in his face. The European negotiators are only too well aware that Britain’s position was dramatically weakened by the activities of these Ministers. One constituent angrily remarked to me that the trio had ‘betrayed the Prime Minister and made them “useful idiots” for the EU’. I had to agree.

    That damage was plain to see. I am told the Cox talks had been progressing well until the start of last week when, unexpectedly, German- born Sabine Weyand, a key negotiator and Barnier’s deputy, suddenly dismissed the proposed arrangements out of hand.

    Seemingly, she had no fear of the UK leaving without a deal – even though that should have been our main negotiating weapon. ‘

    Ah yes…remember her, Sabine Weyand, the woman who back in November stated that the Backstop would give the EU unparalleled negotiating leverage and would, far from being temporary as the BBC et al assure us it is, will be the basis for the future agreement?…the BBC of course didn’t, and doesn’t, report her words…

    ‘Not helping matters is a Brussels leak that makes its ways into the Times and FT. Brussels negotiator Sabine Weyand has told EU ambassadors that the ‘temporary’ backstop may not be so temporary. She has suggested the temporary customs union which forms the basis of the UK-wide backstop will form the basis for the long-term – permanent – relationship.

    In comments that will antagonise Brexiteers, Weyand boasted to Brussels that the ‘level playing field’ clauses the UK would sign up to in the backstop cede power to Brussels and puts the EU ‘in the best negotiation position for the future relationship’:

    ‘This requires the customs union as the basis of the future relationship. They [Britain] must align their rules, but the EU will retain all the controls. They apply the same rules. U.K. wants a lot more from future relationship, so EU retains its leverage.’’

    Then we have this from the Telegraph today…Blair’s treasonous betrayal of his country as he plots with a foreign government to undermine British interests….

    Tony Blair secretly advising Emmanuel Macron on Brexit as former PM accused of ‘unacceptable’ behaviour
    ‘Tony Blair has been accused of “unacceptable” behaviour after it emerged he has been briefing Emmanuel Macron on how to force Britain to stay in the EU.

    The former Labour prime minister believes that if the EU stands its ground over the Brexit deal, Parliament will cave in and accept a customs union – which would keep Britain yoked to Brussels – or a second referendum that could cancel Brexit altogether.’

    The BBC hasn’t noticed.

    Incredible how three major stories of hardcore Remainer attempts to sabotage Brexit can be ignored by the BBC.


    • TrueToo says:


      Seems to me all that is a spot-on clarification of the looming betrayal.

      Is there perhaps a miracle waiting to happen?


      • john in cheshire says:

        I believe we will be leaving the EU on the 29th. March, 2019 at 11pm. On WTO terms.

        God hasn’t brought us this far only to abandon us at the last minute.


        • Up2snuff says:

          Phew! If that photo of David Davis was a screen grab from yesterday, the strain is visible – he has lost some weight.

          j-i-c, God allows all sorts of things, empires, etc., in the world, even evil Assyrians or Romans and may use them for His purposes, esp. the Roman Empire. 😉 It’s hard to see what purpose is to be achieved by keeping the UK (impossible to see, AFAIAC, at present) in the EU but maybe there is one.

          There is no doubt in my mind that Heath, Major and Brown (esp. the latter two) were very, very wrong to take the UK into Treaties without the specific agreement of our nation in a plebiscite.

          Sometimes, wrongs need to be and can be put right.


        • Lefty Wright says:

          John in Cheshire
          Tick tock – tick tock – tick tock ———


        • David R says:

          God is alive and well, but doesn’t “do politics”. If you don’t believe me look no further than the last hundred or so years in Gemany.


        • Spiderman says:

          During the Brexit debates, I have been struck by the abscense of the words, ‘a smooth progression to trading on WTO terms.’ As a marketing consultant, I find it amazing that even staunch Brexiteers insist on using the words ‘no deal’. This is shit branding at its worst.


    • tarien says:

      Very well put. Incomprehensible that the government should ever contemplate a bad deal. Many people fail to understand what the EU really means. It is a fundamental of any democracy that people are able to elect an individual to represent them in the country’s parliament. That elected individual and that parliament must be able to set all the laws by which we live. This is not possible as a member of the European Union. Membership requires acceptance of laws set at EU level, and only an unelected Commission in Brussels can propose these laws, rules and directives. The number of areas over which the EU legislates has grown exponentially over the past four decades.
      EU membership requires submission to a higher power; a power that is even more remote than Westminster and which is unaccountable to British people for all intents and purposes.
      The Customs Union effectively sets the costs of a lot of what you buy.
      The Customs Union puts tariffs at an EU level on all imported goods. This means prices for consumers in the UK are higher than they need to be on a wide range of everyday items.
      The Customs Union also prevents the UK from negotiating trade deals which benefit our own economy. The overall needs and priorities of British exporters are different from those of its continental neighbours, and the slow-moving EU bureaucrats work to protect those continental interests, not those of the UK.
      The Single Market requires acceptance that a great many laws are made in Brussels. These rules, set by what is basically a foreign government, apply to all British businesses even though 88% of them do not trade with EU countries.
      The rules also apply to people, not just to businesses. The EU has slowly expanded its powers to take in everything from what happens when you flick a light switch to how long it takes you to vacuum a carpet.
      Even taxes are now regulated in Brussels. Want to remove VAT on women’s sanitary products? No can do. Brussels won’t let your government do that. Appalling. The EU tax regime is set to be extended further, with advanced discussions on corporation tax and – even worse – a financial transactions tax. The latter is an example of regulation from Brussels that would specifically hit the UK, as it is the powerhouse of financial transactions in the EU. The Single Market also impacts the very fabric of our society. Any normal country has an immigration policy, deciding how many foreign persons it allows in, and which skills are needed most. This is impossible under the ‘four freedoms’, one of which dictates an open border policy to the foreign nationals of 27 other countries.
      If your town’s schools, doctors’ surgeries, and hospitals are full, and there aren’t enough houses, tough titty. It’s no good complaining to your MP as there’s nothing he or she can do to stop more people entering. The EU has had a Common Foreign and Security Policy since 2009. The EU already intervenes militarily in several countries and it has a de facto Foreign and Defence Secretary.
      Increasingly the UK has been sucked into the new military structures of the EU, which are increasingly supplanting NATO. Whilst the EU has been unable to pay for its own protection for generations, it is embarking on a rapid expansion of its control of member states’ own military and security resources.
      For more than 45 years the UK has been subsidising the other countries of the EU. The EU simply recycles money from net contributors like the UK, and mostly gives it to other countries.
      Despite this, and despite the absence of any legal obligation from the Treaty, the EU is demanding an enormous divorce settlement.
      Would any rational person in the country seriously join the EU today?


  11. BRISSLES says:

    Deb and RJ
    Its been said before on here many times, that the dynamics of programmes on all channels have shifted from what they once were. Midsomer a case in point (Jeff on the lasts Thread, mentioned the producer being castigated for not making the programme diverse enough – it was Brian True May, as he rightly commented, it was rare to see any non whites in any village in the UK), and other dramas where a ‘token’ BAME is included for the sake of keeping the Twatterati happy.

    I get a rough idea who are actually responsible for the running of our tv organisations when I watch the editions of the Press Review, particularly on Sky, and these very young people who have fantastic job titles such as Director Of a Silly Think Tank, or Policy Director of Some Such Project, and Lead Political Editor, or they are the Chief Executive of an on-line obscure news blog. These are the ‘calibre’ of people I believe are employed in dictating what we should watch on our screens, and it worries me greatly.

    To hell with the notion that anyone over 40 might just want to watch anything intelligent and actually cater for the vast majority of the population – over 80% which happens to be white. Oh no, these idiots, have all been to Oxbridge and been pumped with left wing bias, and hence the result is what we see on our screens.


  12. pugnazious says:

    The Irish border is the biggest issue in Brexit, made so by the EU and the Irish as they weaponise it to leverage the negotiations their way. The BBC has constantly told us, a lie, that the Good Friday Agreement says we cannot have a hard border, it in fact says absolutely nothing about the border and trade. The BBC has constantly kept up the narrative that the Backstop is a vital part of the agreement and that there is no ‘smart border’ fix possible.

    You might think then that when someone, someone quite important, says it is possible the BBC would make it headline news….but has anyone noticed the news of this significant revelation?

    Oh hang on…the BBC has ‘reported’ it, lol…hidden away on its NI page…and just how many people read that? Few to none this side of the water. The BBC definitely don’t want you to know about this but they know they have to put it in print somewhere or else be accused of bias…hence a tick-box exercise of putting it somewhere where they think it will attract minmum attention.

    I suppose that is a start of sorts.

    Remember when the EU’s own inquiry into a solution to the Irish border issue said a smart border was the answer?…Probably not as the BBC, despite actually once reporting it back in 2017[though as with the NI report it tucks it away…this time on the Europe page not the UK or front pages], refuses to accept such a thing is possible, its presenters seemingly having no knowledge at all of the report telling us instead that such claims of a smart border are ‘magic thinking’.

    From the EU itself….

    ‘This study, commissioned by the European Parliament’s Policy Department for Citizens’ Rights and Constitutional Affairs at the request of the AFCO Committee, provides background on cross-border movement and trade between Northern Ireland and Ireland and identifies international standards and best practices and technologies that can be used to avoid a ‘hard’ border as well as case studies that provide insights into creating a smooth border experience

    In developing a solution for the Irish border, there is an opportunity to develop a friction free border building on international standards and best practices, technology and insights from other jurisdictions.

    Proposed technical solution: Smart Border 2.0
    This report proposes the implementation of a new border solution that serves both sides of the border with maximum predictability, speed and security and with a minimum burden and cost for traders and travellers. It is based on international standards and operational best practices from different parts of the world supported by state-of-the-art technology. The solution presented here can also be implemented regardless of the legal framework for EU; therefore, the implementation can commence and the solution can be ready to operate with a minimum transition period. In addition, it is also scalable and presents a potential future model for the future movement of persons and goods between the EU and the UK.’

    Now a Commons Select Committee has finished its own report on the issue and concluded….

    ‘The Northern Ireland Affairs Committee publishes report on the backstop and the implications of a hard border, in which it concludes that a world-first technical solution to the Northern Ireland border would be possible if all sides adopt a shared position of trust and goodwill.’

    Note this…this is the real problem not the technology as the BBC keeps insisting…

    ‘The Committee believes that a key obstacle to finding a technical solution to the border is a lack of trust and goodwill.

    How many times have you heard a BBC presenter say ‘nobody thinks a smart border is possible’ and that this is ‘magic thinking’ to think it is? Lots of times despite the EU’s own report, as above, saying it is perfectly feasible and technologically possible…as demonstrated on borders around the world already…including some of our own ports such as Felixstowe.

    It is really the EU’s unwillingness to admit that it is possible despite its own report, that is the sticking point….it has weaponised the border issue as leverage for its own negotiations and thus does not want to give that up by admitting there is in fact no problem with the border. The BBC just doesn’t want to admit that.

    The Common’s Committee states that the border issue is being used for political advantage….the BBC looks away….

    ‘Commenting on the publication of the report, Chair of the NI Affairs Committee Dr Andrew Murrison MP said:

    “Time is running out to reach common ground. There should be no attempt to use the border as a lever or as a way of securing political advantage. Mistrust over the backstop protocol has been heightened by lack of clarity on what exactly constitutes a ‘hard border.’ My Committee is calling for clarification of the term in a legally explicit way to ensure both parties share the same understanding of how the backstop can be avoided.

    My Committee took good evidence to suggest that technical and systems-based solutions to ensure the border looks and feels as it does today are do-able but they require trust and goodwill.” ‘

    The BBC ignores or hides away reports suggesting a smart border is possible and instead pushes a narrative that it is impossible. By doing so it supports the EU’s negotiating position and its dangerous narrative about a hard-border and its use of terrorism as a threat to hold over us. The BBC serves that foreign power against the interests of the British nation and the massive democratic vote to leave the EU.

    The BBC deliberately and knowingly betrays this country and works to further the interests of that foreign power.


    • gb123 says:

      One example of a scheme that uses technology in the background to expedite foreign trade is the US FAST scheme.

      75000 truckers and 10000 companies , covering US border entry points north and south. I am sure the US borders are a little larger than Ireland and all for the princely sum of $50 to register.


    • tarien says:

      So much gobble-de-gook. So many words employed to make whatever we are reading appear nonsence. No way a reflection Pugnazious on your excellent contributions to wondeful BBC Bias. We all need some outlet otherwise we would all go bonkers and we thank BBC bias-I wonder if all contributions from BBC Bias could be sent to the Director General et al? Perhaps there would many arrests under the Hate Crime Law.


  13. Fedup2 says:

    BBC news

    My ears must be playing up but I heard a Project Fear Troll today saying that some unknown ‘thinktank ‘ has estimated that 10 percent of ‘uk assets’ have been shifted to the ReichEU because of Brexit .

    There seems to be a failure to understand capitalism as assets are forever moving to achieve the best return

    A very poor troll in my view but an item which suited the Far Left remainer narrative .


  14. Fedup2 says:

    Toady watch

    Tourette’s Robinson blustering at Marcus Fysh MP a member of the ERG . Robinson constantly interrupted and failed to allow answers to his multiple questions .

    Mr Fysh new what was coming so carried on calmly . I’m waiting for the day that politicians just say to beeboids : “stop – I’m off -you’re just ranting and that’s not an interview – I’m off “

    The Muslim work experience girl -meeeeshaal – off to Lebanon doing a refugee tourist job which sounded like one of those long long charity appeals – ‘give £3 quid and help little mo become the jihadist he wants to be ‘

    Meanwhile – back to the stabbing ..the off switch beckoned….


  15. Doublethinker says:

    Yesterday the Times published a letter from a civil servant ,who remained anonymous , in which he or she described the manifold ways in which the Civil Service had been working to prevent Brexit. I know that this will be no surprise to those on this site . But what was truly surprising was that it was published by the Times which has been so pro Remain that it has lost any semblance of balanced reporting. Infact it is very nearly as biased towards Remain as is the BBC. Of course a newspaper can be biased if it wishes, I don’t have to pay for it if I don’t want to, unlike the hated corporation. But I like to keep abreast of what the enemy camp is thinking and I simply can’t watch the BBC it sends my blood pressure through the roof.
    One thing which amazes me though is that most Remainers seem to believe that if they manage to stop Brexit or deliver a BRINO , the country will just accept it and the status quo anti will rapidly be reapplied by everyone. They don’t seem to understand that they are destroying hundreds of years of democracy by their betrayal. Things won’t be the same . For instance I am now a firm supporter of PRoportional Representation , something I was opposed to before the referendum and I will never vote Tory again if they do betray the referendum result. I suspect that millions of other think as I do. The impact on British politics will be profound and last for decades. They , the Remainers, are playing with fire and they don’t even know it.


  16. Guest Who says:

    Guess where Mishal is?

    Then it’s red eye over to suck up to Congresswoman Omar before interviewing Birthstrike and Extinction Rebellion about how irony is so lost on most people.


    • Rich says:

      Taxi for Begum?

      Bit of Uber moonlighting required to top up the wages of the fiscally failed-by-the-bBBC female?

      Suits her, but the unspoken “no dogs” rule might cut down the chances of picking up that particular fare.


      • G says:

        “Taxi for Begum?”
        What about a gun carriage around Whitehall for her dead child?


    • G.W.F. says:

      Mishal might be happier if she stayed in Syria, with her own kind


    • tarien says:

      What the heck is this woman Hussain doing there in Syria-OK she is a Muslim, but one can hear the brief she would have been given by her masters-emphasise the plight of these poor devils are in, come on Britain let us be generous and take a few hundred thousand, whether they want to come here or not-All social benefits will be forthcoming-as if Britain doesn’t have enough on its plate, that the BBC sees a need to send out a News Reader/Journalist at massive expense no doubt, to report on a region we have absolutely no interest in. How many Jounalists have been in and out of the Middle East over the past 20 years? What has that achieved ? More unnecessary concern for situations not of our direct making.


    • RJ says:

      I appreciate the ecologically compliant green sandbags. They make a wonderful colour contrast with the grey dust and rocks.


      • Guest Who says:

        Wonder what function they are designed to meet, as most sandbag deployment options appear poorly served.


        • Kaiser says:

          ISIS brides in Syrian refugee camps have vowed chilling revenge as the last outpost of their “caliphate” faces defeat by Kurdish forces.

          It comes amid fears there are thousands of brainwashed followers in the camps, with one veiled woman warning: “We will seek vengeance, there will be blood up to your knees.

          The woman, feared to be among thousands of unrepentant fanatics who have fled Baghouz and surrendered to US-backed Kurdish forces, added: “We have left, but there will be new conquests in the future.”


  17. theisland says:

    If only …

    The Prime Minister should advise Her Majesty the Queen to prorogue Parliament.
    The Prime Minister should advise Her Majesty the Queen to prorogue Parliament suspending the current parliamentary session until 2nd April 2019 to prevent any attempts by parliamentarians to thwart Brexit on 29th March 2019. Preparations for no-deal/WTO will continue.

    49,880 signatures


  18. Rich says:

    Coming soon. To the bBBC. Not on it just yet.

    I wonder if our friend Sweeney of the Lard cracked open a bottle when he found this out?

    An award partly in recognition of “courageous service in the military” from the ironically named London Breed. I kid you not.

    Although she walks and talks and looks as her name suggests, this is in fact the name of the Democrat woman-of-color mayor of San Francisco, a couple of shades darker on the victim/ virtue chart than AOC in skin tone as well as possibly mindset it would seem. Though certainly no more intelligent.

    It’s things like this that lead you to hope that the Americans do become more isolationist. The Democratic party make you puke, don’t they?


  19. Fedup2 says:

    That’s painful but thanks for the post .

    I really thought that when America invented being a victim of terrorism on 9/11 the IRA were ended because all those Yankee dollars dried up .
    It seems some people forget whilst others visit graves and live daily with the consequences of the savagery of mcguiness – but at least he is dead …


    • Rich says:

      There’s always that Fed.

      Whereas thousands affected by his cowardice, hidden bombs and bullets in the back, struggle on with life-changing mental and physical scars. A friend of mine left an arm and a leg and two dead colleagues on a North Antrim beach, blown there by a remotely detonated bomb that exploded beneath his RUC patrol car 30 years ago. He was recognised with an MBE for his charity and community work, not his police service or “courage”, 10 years later.

      Anything on that Sweeney, you fetid pos?


      • Fedup2 says:

        Yes Rich – some of us don’t forget and are grateful


        • john in cheshire says:

          Grateful for such brave men as Captain Robert Nairac. Kidnapped, tortured and murdered by killer maguinness’ gang of thugs.


  20. chancygardner says:

    Referring back to the comment about comedy being absent from the beeb, it’s got to the point that I won’t watch anything on offer. I mean anything, not even for five minutes. It became poor and formulaic around ten to fifteen years ago and destroyed an institution. In fact, I write and perform comedy which is presented live. There is little interest in it from anyone under the age of fifty. Those under this age in the audience generally stare with a vacant expression, completely unable to grasp the leaps of logic required to ‘get the joke’ and I’m damned if I will dumb it down for them at the expense of underlining, swearing or repeating.

    I’m not saying the younger generation are daft but they have not received the same variety of pc-free comedy enjoyed by those steeped in a genre as diverse as the Goons, Monty Python’s, Rab c Nesbitt, Benny Hill, Morecambe and Wise, Carry On, the Two Ronnies, Absolutely, Black Adder, Not the Nine o’clock News, French and Saunders etc etc etc. There are simply too many to list. The comedy these days is based on mockery of Tory MPs and.. err..Trump and..well that’s about it because they are the only people you’re allowed to mock. Perhaps you might add a couple of white business men to the list.

    Well, I could go on but the rise and fall off BBC comedy is plain to see and those who write and perform for it are so straight-jacketed by modern restrictive practices that it can never provide a true platform for the humour that is available around us.

    Finally, let me take just one small example of how humour has gone ‘underground’ : The ‘Abbott’ jokes on here would not be allowed ‘out there’. She’s not only a non-albino woman (allegedly) but also the last known flabappotomus in existence other than thirtyeleventy others.


    • vlad says:

      Indeed being black makes her a sacred cow.

      Though ‘white elephant’ may be more apt.


    • G says:

      “……are so straight-jacketed by modern restrictive practices that it can never provide a true platform for the humour that is available around us.”
      It will worsen as PC/hate speech tightens its grip around our necks.


    • BRISSLES says:

      As an aside, I read a report in the weekend papers that (yet another) care worker was had up for abuse etc of an elderly resident in a care home. Now, whether it was the wrong photo attached, but the c/worker could have been Diane Abbots double ! I thought, its horrendous enough to be an elderly victim of abuse, but this was a double whammy case !


  21. vlad says:

    Taking racist and homophobic victimhood to new heights, it seems actor Jussie Smollett made up the whole story about being attacked by MAGA supporters.

    A bit awkward for al beeb who lapped up the original story (3 of their favourite boxes ticked if you include the MAGA line – orgasms all round!) but are a tad more circumspect in their coverage that it was a lie – the so-called attack was staged.

    Now, back to the more important business of mocking Trump.



    • Fedup2 says:

      Thanks for the pic but I don’t know who that is…and there is one called Kelly R in trouble too-,I am equally pleased not to know what that is . Fedup World has its advantages sometimes …


      • vlad says:

        You’re not missing much.
        Just some minor US actor who staged a racist and homophobic attack by Maga supporters to earn some victim points, stigmatize Trump and further his ‘career’.


  22. Fedup2 says:

    Ha ha chancy
    Each time I watch the umpteenth repeat of Dads Army ( which was not always good ) I ponder on what would be repeated on the BBC in 10 years ? – if it stills exists ( hope not ) then try Wharton’s would be repeated in 20 30 or 40 years . ? I do this as I see that little copyright thing at the end titles saying ‘1974’

    I think people are so self repressed now that they need to look around before laughing to make sure it is ‘ok’ . There will be some post sociological term for this but who cares .

    I do like the freebie walley bridgee hyphenee thingee though ….
    Not not seen the current one as am in a time zone far far away..


    • JimS says:

      In ten years time there will be some 20 year-old, dressed in Young Pioneer/Juncker Youth uniform, presenting a “Did They Really Say That?” programme with a “I’ve just sucked a lemon” face reviewing ‘the best’ of today’s comedy, the sort of stuff that anyone today that ‘likes a laff’ would turn off.

      Probably in another ten years there will be an hour-long programme on ‘Comedy Greats’ in which another 20 year-old will rave about such ‘brilliant’ performers as Jo Brand and her ComedY Gold Classic sketch in which she dreams that she opened the door to find Virginia Bottomley, (then Minister of Health), standing there causing her to say the Best Comedy Line Of All Time, “Eff Off You Tory Bitch!”

      And those of you who are watching will laugh because your ‘smart’ device will be checking to see that you do.


    • Scronker says:

      Its a great shame that the only people who appear on the TV nowadays and make us laugh are long-since dead.


      • Nibor says:

        Try Comrade Dad
        Starring George Cole made in 1986 , set in Londongrad 1999 .


  23. Guest Who says:

    “Every woman has a breast story.”

    And lo, the BBC brings the nation…. ‘news’.


  24. Up2snuff says:

    Has anyone on here heard reference to this –
    – on the TOADY Programme?

    I have not.

    I understand that Sarah Sands has been challenged over that lack of coverage.


    • fakenewswatcher says:

      snuff- This petition has had huge support, but the parliamentary response tells you all you need to know. The MSM will do their best to ignore it.
      The problem with all these petitions to parliament is that this institution is itself the centre of treachery, with the exception of MPs who have done their best to ensure that the voice of the people, as expressed in the referendum result, is heard and implemented. One is therefore asking for democracy to be implemented by the very institution that has decided to hijack the vote of the majority in the referendum, and twist the result into some form of remaining – whatever it may be disguised as.
      The interesting petition, which has over 50,000 supporters, is the one asking the Queen to bypass parliament and ensure that the decision of the majority is implemented. What will parliament do if and when this reaches 100,000?
      Gerard Batten already made this request in January, but -it seems- has had no response?
      The bbc is currently essentially concerned with what various remainers in the Tory party, as well as Labour opinion, think. They are supportive of parliament ‘taking control’ of the Brexit process, so -if we are waiting for them to publicise any other point of view- we will be waiting a long time.
      We should by now realise that the bbc have NO interest in genuine democracy. Lip service is the best we shall get from them. The beeb will do their best to portray leaving with no deal as some sort of catastrophic, lunatic fringe proposal, which deserves the odd mention, only to be shot down in flames. Their contempt for the ERG, which they mention very occasionally, is equally obvious.


  25. G says:

    What your tax pounds support?

    I would disagree slightly with the video commentary:

    In the muslim world, there is, ‘Jizya’. In the UK, ‘Jizya’ is State Benefit which the muslim takes as that ‘tax’ entitlement. Hence, no need to work while whitey is paying for everything you need.

    ‘Jizya’ – (but note the penalty when the indigenous population (the invaded) refuse to pay the tax)


    • john in cheshire says:

      Jizya – the word itself even sounds disgusting – is just another name for protection money.
      I think the mafia adopted it during the long years of dominance by muslims over their lands.


      • StewGreen says:

        Come on there is further context
        A lot of working Muslims do follow the tradition of giving a fair chunk to charity
        ..whether they are legitimate charities will depend from case to case.


        • Lucy Pevensey says:


          Zakat is the compulsory giving of a set proportion of one’s wealth to charity. It is regarded as a type of worship and of self-purification. Zakat is the third Pillar of Islam.

          And it goes mainly to fund war and terror. The Muslim world wrings charity money out of the west to feed their poor while Sauds live in opulence.


    • vlad says:

      But the picture’s all wrong: it should show MPs prostrating to the kaaba.
      Any clever Photoshoppers out there?


  26. Up2snuff says:

    Just finishing – part 1 of a wonderful Book of the Week on R4 (9.45-10am) – Amos Oz’s memoir. Very well read by David Fleeshman.

    Very highly recommended.


  27. Up2snuff says:

    Some more very highly recommended radio from the BBC!

    Radio 4 Woman’s Hour – yes, honestly – the first 15-18 mins with Wendy Mitchell. Wendy was diagnosed with early onset dementia at the age of 58. BTW, WH is doing a Podcast with Wendy Mitchell that sounds very promising. On the strength of the programme, then it should be extremely good.

    Just in case it is helpful to someone in need, I repeat a post I put up on the Weekend Thread in a reply earlier today.
    “I have been told by a dementia specialist, below Consultant level IIRC, that – generally speaking – dementias do not kill a person.

    They could have been speaking in error, of course, but as a qualified & specialist Doctor, I tended to accept what he was saying at the time and pass it on for the benefit of others.”

    Some slightly less highly but nevertheless recommended radio is ‘Heat the Wok’ (aka Start the Week) today with Kirsty Wark presiding. It is repeated, in shortened form, on R4 at 9.30pm tonight. WARNING! There is an agenda behind it and some propaganda therein but it is worth listening to. It is informative.

    Bit like how the BBC used to be in the ‘good old days’.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Disagree on the dementia doesn’t kill view . When the swallow mechanism at near the end is disrupted by the disease dehydration and stuff wrongly entering the lung follows . I’m not a medic but I’ve sat and watched it happen .

      I also took the view that the NHS was switching from ‘ end of life care ‘ to just “ end life “ hence that stat about life expectancy dropping ….


      • Fedup2 says:

        Further to that – once elderly people are dehumanised by calling them ‘bed blockers ‘ it’s not many steps to easing the existence of ‘ medical professions ‘ from making room by hastening death .

        Which j have also seen a number of times . Medics are very good at covering their tracks though …


      • Bob Nelson says:


        Interesting comment.
        My wife was diagnosed with a frontal lobe dementia in 2004. Since then deterioration has been slow but inexorable. She ‘lost’ her swallow in early 2012 and the hospital medical team said, basically, that fitting a peg tube (feeding/medicating direct into the stomach) was futile in dementia cases and they would not be providing her with one. They then passed responsibility for her to a palliative care consultant who, surprisingly, disagreed with them. The net result was that she was eventually fitted with a peg tube and she has had an extra seven years of life as a result. She is now confined to bed and, admittedly, her quality of life is now very low. But she is still alive and loved.

        I was advised early on that she would almost certainly die of a condition other than dementia, and she has indeed survived two instances of pneumonia, one aspiration, as you observed and several chest infections.

        Perhaps I should add that she is at home, not ‘bed-blocking’.


        • Fedup2 says:

          I’m glad you got a palliative consultant . I got a nurse who could care less . I was caring for my mum at home and experiencing the brutality of the ‘ health professionals ‘

          I’m sure you’re doing all you can however exhausting it is .
          I know circumstance are different but I wrote as I found .

          The time I ( we) really needed State help – the only time – it wasn’t there . So I support a smaller state without the likes of Aunty lying to the people all the time – or as they say 24/7

          The term ‘ bed blocking ‘ should be avoided . I nearly wrote ‘ banned’ but I don’t like banning

          Prayers with you and your love one . I hope you are getting help from Dementia UK . I did


    • Fedup2 says:

      Nice for the Kirsty Wark Production Conpany though …she retails at about £2500 for an after dinner speech which is quite modest in the scheme of things …


      • fakenewswatcher says:

        I got the impression that Kirsty Wark’s ‘Start the week’ promoted the view that the many ISIS women in refugee camps should be repatriated to Europe. This was not clearly stated, but the poor darlings, it seemed, were merely looking for a ‘structure’ which would give them a role of some sort, presumably not provided by ‘the West’ -but instead offered by the Caliphate.
        We are expected to overlook this little error, and be kind enough to let them all back in- hint, hint?
        I do wonder whether snuff, who recommended listening to this programme, but warned us that there was ‘an agenda behind it’, came to the same conclusion as I did?
        With a MSF doctor and a Kurdish sniper on the same programme, it was quite interesting, I have to agree.


        • Fedup2 says:

          As the final ( hopefully ) piece of territory occupied by Isis is wiped out we ll probably hear some claim by MSM supporting their terrorist .
          I was wondering if some member of the beeboid monarchy such as Adie, Sweeney, Ducet, et all might go out there but I’m guessing BBC health and safety would prevent it

          Otherwise we’d be having appeals and airlifts to bring the Isis darlings home to ‘face justice ‘ nonsense – meaning a big legal bill for the taxpayer again and a free for all those lawyers who love ‘representing ‘ their friends ….


    • Guest Who says:

      Beyond the internal physiological aspects, I had several near misses with my Mum, even in early stages.

      She once tried cooking her lunch on an electric hob using a plastic colander. Only because her cottage was next door did I notice the smoke.

      Went over and she was reading, oblivious. Sense of smell being lost is often an early indicator.


  28. StewGreen says:

    How are the alternative social networks going ?
    like the gab discussion tool
    ..anyone using ??


  29. David R says:

    An hour with no bias reported. Is this a record?


    • StewGreen says:

      FakeNews @David : Look at the list of latest postings : Top Right
      People have been posting in that hour , but further up the thread


  30. StewGreen says:

    I just posted about Tommy Robinson in our “John Sweeney Cc BBC Panorama” thread
    ..And I thought it’s not about one man, it’s about any individual speaking up for justice
    ..and how the law should have a fair playing field
    and then I thought .. what is the difference between TR and Doreen Lawrence ?
    ..and whoomph what is the show on Radio4 at 1-11:30am ?


  31. StewGreen says:

    Plenty of agenda pushing on BBC as ever
    13:45pm The Age of Denial
    \\ A Warm Winter
    From credit cards to climate change, we bury our heads in the sand. Isabel Hardman explores our capacity to deny what’s in front of us. The idea of being “in denial” is well known to psychologists. But how does it operate at a community level?
    The series begins in Norway, with a town where the response to the obvious impact of climate change was…silence.//
    Is she the right wing Isabel ? that is Isabel Oakshott
    Hardmen does work on the Spectator, but also presents the BBC’s Week in Westminster show
    From her Twitter feed


    • RobRoy says:

      But isn’t she lovely :0P Always look forward to her on the TV but never remember what she says.


  32. Guest Who says:

    BBC back in its happy place.



    • BigBrotherCorporation says:

      Still trying to work out what the sign language guy was doing to sign ‘genitalia’, might come in handy if I ever need to insult a deaf person, I guess.


      • Guest Who says:

        The bbc had a ‘story’ about the effect of self-pleasuring on youth potentates also.

        Wonder if his signing for that would just look like covering PMQs?


    • Guest Who says:

      Macron has his thugs in black.

      The BBC has ex-staff.

      Not too impressed with hiding behind mercenaries on the licence fee funding.


  33. s.trubble says:


    Telegraph reporting papal Knight, Tony Blair interfering in Brexit again………hot on the heels of David Davis calling out the “useful idiots ” in the Cabinet on DJ Red Marr’s show.

    I would recommend that the Attorney General now proposes that unless the Irish Mist is sorted legally then he will turn on the extraction fan from within the CodPiece………and leave it switched on until the £39b is sucked back into the British economy.


  34. LastChanceSaloon says:

    UKIP Manifesto must include the following :-
    Royal Family no longer required, the current sovereign has not refused assent to any of the treason since 1945.
    Leave the UN.
    Kill the BBC.
    House of Lords dispensed with.
    Death Penalty restored, mandatory for treason, back dated for 2000 years.
    Mandatory death penalty for conspiracies like Common Purpose.
    Royal Commission on treason in the realm.
    All traitors assets seized.
    Treasonous private companies nationalised without compensation.
    Those found guilty hung, drawn and quartered in public.
    Executions filmed, with super realistic Dolby recording of the screams.
    TV channels must begin every day with 5 minutes film of executions.
    Anyone illegally in the UK will be treated as a spy in wartime and just shot. No trials or other bollocks, just shot.

    When our Augean stables are cleansed, declare was on the EU.
    Strengthen NATO.
    Cruise missiles and Drones sent as presents to Junker, Tusk and Co.
    €Ponzi repudiated.
    One week of celebration when the EU is dead.

    Anything I have forgotten.
    I know, I am too soft.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Last chance – are you by any chance trolling or just trying to get a reaction ….?


      • LastChanceSaloon says:

        Deadly serious.
        Time to stop pissing about.
        If you need someone who would make Joseph Stalin look like a kitten, call me.


    • Jeff says:

      I really am hoping this is a wind up!


  35. Doobster78 says:

    Lovely news …. 70% share price drop over last year. This is what happens when you try and hijack democracy with money Mr Dunkerton. Clearly thought he knew best ….how wrong !!! How very wrong.

    Also noted recently that everywhere i go, Ben and Jerrys ice cream is always on offer ….. 1/2 price …. problem with sales ???? Again, stick your noses in politics and think you are better than others …pay the price.

    These lefties just cannot grasp they dont rule the roost like they used too !!! Times r a changing … slowly.


    • Fedup2 says:

      Maybe they should have a stab at high value niche markets like stab proof clothing and fashion statement first aid bags with stylish field dressings ….


  36. Doobster78 says:

    John Henderson typifies why i despise remoaners and their stinking “moral high ground” attitude.


    • JimS says:

      Parliament can reject ‘no deal’, it can vote to ‘extend Article 50’, but both of these need the agreement of the EU.

      The EU said right at the start that it wouldn’t negotiate a deal until we have left the EU. Extending Article 50 requires the agreement of ALL 27 other members of the EU. It is unlikely that they would agree as if we are still a member in May EU law requires us to provide MEPs, who will remain in place until the next EU election. So both of these votes are meaningless.

      What these ‘clever’ remainers miss out is that arrangements are being agreed in case of a so-called ‘no deal’, in other words there is no ‘no deal’. Mrs May’s ‘deal’ is just a re-worked sucession agreement for countries that want to join the EU! Under such an agreement the candidate country agrees to align its laws with those of the EU while having no influence on any new laws. This is neither a ‘hard’ Brexit nor a ‘soft’ Brexit but a path to accepting ‘free-movement’, the Euro and no rebate.


  37. Doobster78 says:

    Child grooming gangs didn’t get a mention !!! But the BBC were keen to tell us how diverse and up and coming Bradford is …


  38. StewGreen says:

    12:07pm Alarmism from @theJeremyVine
    1️⃣ If air pollution is making our children ill, is it time for drastic action, like banning the school run?
    based on the Public Health England report which sounds like the usual Lancet type BS
    First they pllayed a clip of Paul Cosford

    2️⃣ How much is the British Government to blame for the death of Shamina Begum’s 3 week old baby?
    3️⃣ Our Medical Special today looks at how Deep Brain Stimulation
    4️⃣ As Comic Relief this week focuses on the homeless, our reporter meets a man who lives in a tent.


    • StewGreen says:

      If air pollution was actually killing anyone in the UK
      .. you’d be able to show us the death certificates
      but there are zero

      Likewise If “air pollution is making our children ill”’d be able to name these kids ..not just make assertions
      Many kids get asthma , and the outbreaks normally correspond with grass pollen release, I have seen doctors say.


    • StewGreen says:

      First Dr Chris Smith on a fuzzy line
      “Bottomine 1 in 8 deaths according to the WHO are attributable to poor air quality”
      … Dingaling ..fallacy of moving the goal posts
      … Don’t mix third world indoor open fire cooking REAL deaths with UK cars

      “Particles that come out of petrol and diesel engines are causing a higher incidence of heart attack and strokes ”
      .. that sounds made up to me

      “These particles cross into your blood , all parts of your body and stimulate the immune system increased level of inflammation around the body
      ..increase blood stickyness making strokes and heart attacks more likely”
      Tosh ..we are talking about kids ..and they are NOT having these

      Then Fiona Doyle mother of a 5 year old kid #emotionalBlackmail
      … well how long has her kid been in school ? ..6 months ?
      ..she’s preaching and screeching

      Item finished at 12:30
      It was all pure appeal to emotion, from middle class callers
      ..NOT science
      eg didn’t mention the drastic cut in pollution over last 50 years


  39. Fedup2 says:

    Stew – as a city boy I do like to be able to taste the air ( and see it ) . I get a bit wheezy when exposed to “ fresh air “ these days .
    As for health dangers – I would posit that the combination of ‘mums’ on the psychopathic ‘ get out of my way’ school run / charge with big 4x4s as well as the traditional after school knifings are a much bigger health threat than the air .


    • Guest Who says:

      Acquired adult onset asthma last year. When the farmers get jiggy with the turkey poop….


  40. Guest Who says:

    In which ex-bbc editor Paul drops all other bbc editors right in it.

    ‘Produce the evidence’. Sources close to the bbc say.

    Why does the bbc keep wheeling such people back on?


  41. john in cheshire says:

    This afternoon I’ve had a leaflet pushed through my letterbox which is announcing some sort of march on Saturday 23rd. March, entitled put it to the people, to demand something called a peoples vote on Brexit.

    Has anyone else had one? My first thoughts are that if this is a nationwide leafleting effort then who is behind it and who is funding it?

    The only information about the instigators can be found on a website link on the leaflet which sets out details of the march and asking for donations.

    There is a registered address for Open Britain at 21-24 Millbank Tower, London.

    Is this a Beliar/Soros agitprop scheme?

    I’m surprised they are bothering to target my area, I’m in Esther McVey’s constituency, because we voted to Leave and I’m not aware there has been any change of mind over that decision.


    • Ian Rushlow says:

      ‘Open Britain’ is one of several groups operating out of Millbank Tower. Executive Director is James McGrory, chief spokesman for Nicholas Clegg during the coalition government of 2010-2015. According to this article from the New Statesman last year, it receives financial support from another group, called ‘Best for Britain’ (sic), which has received around half-a-million pounds from Soros:
      Generally speaking, political and campaigning organisations with the word ‘Open’ in the title are commonly linked to Soros’ Open Society Foundations, although there may be an element of indirection and cross-funding. The word ‘open’ is believed to mean ‘open for exploitation’.


      • Do Beeboids Dream of Electric Goats says:

        Open Britain Ltd is a Mandelson operation, strangely got grants and donations worth almost 20M in 2015 and then blew the lot on themselves before Aug 2016. They didn’t have anything like that budget in 2017, but their accts for 2018 aren’t available yet, so sounds like they had a fresh installment of money to burn. Should be illegal in my opinion, how the hell can it be a limited company.


  42. Payne by name says:

    I avoid the BBC (not having a TV licence) but I see that all the headlines today were of the importance of saving the country following Gove’s treasonous cry that we should get behind May’s deal.

    Right so the choices are either to stay in the EU, extend article 50 or go with May’s deal, which is effectively staying in the EU.

    The establishment has won and democracy has lost.

    This has been a masterful play by the globalists, the media and the establishment. Not only have they manipulated everything to get the outcome they always wanted, they’ve also managed to disenfranchise so many people and destroy our faith in democracy, that the voters that might normally keep them in check at the polls, have lost our belief in the system and will let them get away with anything in the future.

    I won’t vote for the Tories again and if I vote it will only be for UKIP but we know that this vote won’t really mean anything.

    As I say the establishment gets a 2 for 1. Gets to stay in the EU and remove/cause the disillusion of so many voters to the point that they probably won’t vote again. I mean when you are witnessing this wholesale betrayal right in front of your eyes and attempts to alert people to it are like screaming in an empty forest, what other choice do you have but to draw back from it?

    At least in the US, Trump gives you a solid side to root for. Here, we have just a handful of MPs and nothing else.

    I despise what this country has become. A drunk on power state broadcaster telling everyone what to think, a hysterical screaming SJW minority governing every facet of our lives, a proud culture being undermined, smashed to pieces and dissolved in front of our eyes, a ruling class with nothing but contempt for those beneath them and a never ending deluge of PC infotainment.

    I know it sounds like the crazy ramblings you would hear from the old guy living upstairs, but we really are sleepwalking into a dismantling of everything we know and when it has happened, few will be able to trace when it started and how to put it back together again.

    If I won the lottery, I’d leave this country in a heartbeat and go to either Singapore (warm, strong, take no shit) or somewhere like Idaho that’s solidly Republican and I can get some guns, a big truck, a ton of fresh air and not be force fed this soul destroying nonsense.


    • Old Goat says:

      You can thank Blair, and the “educators” for churning out ignorant, often illiterate self-serving left-wing children who know no better, are malleable, susceptible to academic brainwashing, and who think their generation will change the world and make it “better”.

      Luckily, we won’t be witnessing the ultimate result.


    • Fedup2 says:

      I think it’s a little bit premature to say “ not voting Tory again’”.

      If there is no change in the sell out then May must know that it will then become about numbers- from both sides of the Commons . Are there enough remainer MPs who will really go against their constituency vote and force through an amendment / withdrawal of the brexit legislation A50. For that to happen May would (surely?) have to go …. thus triggering a demand for a general election which in effect would become another referendum .

      Withdrawing A50 would mean UK would be putting up candidates in the EU elections at the end of May

      I know this isn’t directly BbC but is more important . .

      I’d be delighted to be countered in my read but I just hope the whole things stays so screwed up that we leave through time running out …

      If one tries to pull back from the time we are in there can be little doubt that whatever the outcome the stability of Blighty has been undermined and will continue to be . Even if we leave under RTO connditions and succeed in the coming year or two remainers will never accept any benefit from brexit

      The EU will do it’s best to undermine us even more than it has done in the last 40 years since nice being tricked into joining .


      • Payne by name says:

        FedUp – Is it premature. I can probably count on two hands the Tory MPs that have remained firm in this debacle. The party has been permantely damaged in my eyes. This isn’t a party that will generate another Mrs T but an ever diminishing series of spineless cucks slavishly devoted to their social media advisors and happy to sell this country down the road. They were creeping left to begin with but now they’ve added a complete disdain for the voters to the mix. I might have faith in a few Tory MPs but I’m done with the party. They have become an enemy and not an ally.

        We’ve seen flip flopping and apathy from a host of them like Gove, Fox and Leadsom.

        I admire your optimism but we won’t be leaving on the 29th March on WTO. The establishment won’t let that happen, the withdrawal agreement will be extended but maintained so that we can’t have any Euro MPs and we will be stitched up. The vote two years ago that we will be leaving on the 29th will simply be changed or amended.

        They can do what they want, they can tweak what they want and change what they want because anyone challenging them is dismissed as a Brexiteer heretic and silenced.

        Hence my point stands, the simple clarity of the referendum result has become so distorted that many will just ‘check out’ from politics because the message from the apathetic members of public that ‘nothing changes’ has been proven correct.


  43. Lucy Pevensey says:

    From the Politicalite article linked by Stew Green Further up the page on the Muslim rape gangs and persecution of TR;

    “One girl, trying to escape, cracked her skull as she jumped from a first-floor balcony. Other girls, who resisted, were dumped in the deserted moors, having to fend for themselves in bitterly cold weather.”

    This system of ours must be judged one way or another.
    Social care, police, media, parliament, government and the education system have to take a large portion of the blame for this sacrifice of youth. Muslims would not have been able to get away wit this in a just, properly-functioning society.


  44. G says:

    The West, particularly Europe further regressing to primitive levels previously unknown before our political class encouraged the ‘Religion of Peace’ to set up camp here and develop everything sharia. Inch by inch, day by day, they nibble a little more of the West’s foundation principles.


  45. upandatem says:

    All remoaners, bar none, are arrogant and smug. They dismiss the 2016 referendum as a mistake made by the ignorant masses and only a re-run will allow those, who voted to leave, the chance to rectify their terrible error. If Brexit is not achieved then it will give the EU carte blanche to impose upon us anything they want because they are now fully aware that a majority of our politicians, and media, are a weak bunch of pathetic and complicitous traitors. God knows what Juncker et al have in store for us if Brexit fails.


  46. Lucy Pevensey says:


  47. StewGreen says:

    Times : half page advert for the new Boeing manufacturing centre in Sheffield


  48. StewGreen says:

    They treat us Tommy’s as they treat themselves … NOT


  49. StewGreen says:

    25 new trains cannot be used, cis signals not visible.


  50. StewGreen says:

    FOI request cannot be refused by most public bodies
    but one is champion at it
    2017- 900 refused
    2018 – 963
    Since 2013 refused about half


    • Guest Who says:

      One day this simple fact will show that claims of transparency and, hence, trust are laughable.