Weekend Open Thread 9 March 2019

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( bit early but the previous excellent strand highlighting Far Left BBC bias was getting very long ..

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  1. john in cheshire says:

    Gerard Batten, UKIP leader, speaking in Durham a few days ago. I wonder if this caused Dancing Terry to visit the North East?
    Mr Batten had a large audience for the meeting which, from a comment by him in his speech, also included Sargon of Akkad.
    This video is about 49 minutes long. I’ve posted it here in the hope that some of the far-left bbc collective are lurking and are curious to know what Mr Batten had to say. In fact he repeats the UKIP policy that they will abolish the TV tax.

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  2. Guest Who says:

    The subject of crowd numbers often comes up, especially as organisers and the BBC place great importance upon them when in lockstep, and the bbc no importance at all if they don’t like the organisers.

    Slightly OT, but if any have 50’ free I’d love any thoughts on this dour lass and her manifesto and message.

    It’s like Wolfie Smiff meets TK Maxx and would be funny if not ultimately dangerous.

    Came across this charmer as her outfit had captured our local media recently. If you skip the initial selective eco excess in the first twenty minutes you will see why, and it is chilling.

    Almost all she lays out indeed came to pass. Played the local press and BBC like a fiddle.

    She had a council chamber rammed with truant kids and as a consequence swung a unanimous vote from a collection of councillors who, if not already activist loons, knew what was good for them.

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    • Annunaki says:

      Sorry I gave up when she had to look down at her notes when pronouncing her name

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      • Guest Who says:

        No worries. There are many who she relies upon not to look further, like our new ‘journalist profession’. She got uncritical media support to get a ton of kids to bunk off and scream from the balcony, to sway a council into knee jerk herd policy. Nothing to see there, carry on….

        My kids would laugh at it, but I know some who took it seriously.

        And in the spirit of Yaxley-Rise Up I am preparing a Fisk to send to pols, media and, if suddenly they go full censor, social media.

        Anyone know a good, free, transcription app?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Annu, can you trust any scientist or expert that starts with the word ‘So’?

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        • Up2snuff says:

          GW, only skimmed the intro but Eschatological Theologians might be puzzled or even have to stifle a smirk at the thought of The Messiah turning up here and finding no humans alive.

          You are right. It is chilling to think that her views are gaining credence and ground in Western society.

          It would appear that the Spirit of AntiChrist is working flat out on Planet Earth.

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          • Guest Who says:

            U2S. At least you tried.

            It is so bad I would normally have persevered as far as you guys but this was on my doorstep, and all the Machiavellian dodges she drones out as if they were jam recipes have been borne out.

            Just now our regional paper wrote a glowing review of how hundreds of school kids had swayed a small council into ignoring silly stuff like schools, roads and stuff, but needs to send representatives to the next climate conference.

            I have decided to at least offer other thoughts. Parapet time!

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        • Guest Who says:

          I would not trust her with anything.

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  3. Terminal Moraine says:

    The BBC make their top online story this morning Javid criticised as IS bride’s baby dies.

    The first three rent-a-quotes in their article: a) Diane Abbott b) David Milliband and c) by chance a former Metropolitan Police chief superintendent and friend of Ms Begum’s family. The latter said: “We’ve failed, as a country, to safeguard the child […] this was an entirely avoidable death of a British citizen.”

    That former Metropolitan Police chief superintendent is Dal Babu, who resigned from the Met Police after being rejected for promotion to chief officer rank.

    The Guardian calls him a prominent and eloquent spokesman for Muslim police officers. He has previously said the force’s counter-terrorism command was “virtually all white” and called the Prevent programme a “toxic brand”.

    Was there anything like as much coverage from the BBC after the Manchester Arena bomb about the failure, as a country, to safeguard 23 dead people and 139 wounded?

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    • Annunaki says:

      Are these the same muslim police officers not fit for duty when on ramadam ?

      Dear Bedfordshire Police,

      During a police documentary called “Traffic Cops” shown at 3pm on 23 May 2016 on the W TV channel there featured a car chase where a youth decamped from a stolen vehicle and escaped.

      A Muslim officer who seemed quite proactive was sick during the incident and he put this down to fasting during Ramadan which affected his performance.

      Please provide an documents relating to any feedback following this incident and also any risk assessments concerning fasting Muslim officers on patrol during the month of Ramadan.

      Yours faithfully,

      https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fitness_of_muslim_officers_durin

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  4. Annunaki says:

    One of the country’s most senior Muslim police officers has admitted gross misconduct after instructing a member of staff to pass topics to a candidate ahead of a promotion interview.

    Naveed Malik, who is Assistant Chief Constable of Cambridgeshire Police, admitted gross misconduct by breaching the Standards of Professional Behaviour through Discreditable Conduct.

    Mr Malik, whose father was one of the first Muslim police officers in the UK having been appointed as a constable in 1967, told a misconduct hearing at Wyboston Lakes Conference Centre in Wyboston, Bedfordshire, that he accepted the charge.

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  5. Annunaki says:

    Following your request, searches were conducted at Bedfordshire Police for information relating to the series Traffic Cops that you have watched and requested further detail on.

    Various enquiries have been made across the force to see what information is held, but we have been unable to find any recorded information. We would need to be able to identify the incidents involved in the series and then try to determine which ones relate to your request. However, we have been unable to find any record of this and as such we cannot provide the information you have requested.

    The Act does not cover information that is in someone’s head and we are only obliged to provide information we already have in recorded form. We are unable to find any recorded information in relation to the information requested as the only way we would have of identifying the relevant information would be if someone within the force can remember which incidents the programme relates to.

    Your attention is drawn to the attached sheet which details your right of complaint.

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  6. Annunaki says:

    They missed the TV in the corner then, or the [email protected] camera in the back of the car as I saw it on natonal TV then youtube and all of a sudden it was deleted, investigation ability of a bilnd, deaf racist it seems God help us

    https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/fitness_of_muslim_officers_durin

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  7. thirdoption says:

    “Diane Abbott fears she will be raped….”

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6788195/Diane-Abbott-fears-raped-murdered-extremists-online-trolls.html

    Surely no-one could be that depraved.

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    • Guest Who says:

      It’s not rape if you are a party colleague. Apparently.

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    • G says:

      third,
      Just goes to show their sort-of thought processes. But by the way, by how many men? I would ask. ‘eightumtwelver’ came back the reply.

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  8. Fedup2 says:

    I’m looking forward to the current ineffective Londonistan police chief trumpeting about
    ‘Londonistan getting safer “ after the overwhelming success of “Operation Search White People for knives “ . . I wonder if they’ll plant one inTRs pocket just to add to the State suppression . ?

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  9. Old Goat says:

    Not BBC (it never is!), but this is the gilets jaunes engaged in Paris, in Acte 17:

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  10. Foscari says:

    I wrote one of the most facetious comments on this web page
    about Shamima Begum. BUT I expect I will be attacked with
    vitriol over what I am about to write. The BABY , if it was at
    all possible should of been protected by HMG.
    I do hope that WE on this website do not despise Muslims
    because they are Muslims. That baby was an innocent British Muslim baby who was given no support . Maybe it was impossible
    to help him, and maybe it was. Now attack me, if you want to.I hope
    I am wrong ,but I expect this will be my last comment.Because for
    me the website is about noting BBC bias. Not condemning a
    three week old BRITISH baby!

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    • TrueToo says:

      Foscari, point taken. Nobody can really believe that a baby is guilty of anything.

      But why would that be your last comment? People disagree on various issues on this site, but nobody is banned simply because of an opinion.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Fos
        The death of this baby is a subject for this site because the BBC has been leading with it throughout Saturday morning .

        I admire your compassion but I’m afraid I’m too hard hearted about our enemies to care . The baby wasn’t British – as far as I’m concerned and as I said yesterday – it makes it easier for the 19 year old terrorist to go to somewhere which is not UK .

        I care more about the suffering of victims of her and her husband and their “friends “ in the name of their perverted religion .

        You have your view – I have mine – until it’s banned ..

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        • Up2snuff says:

          While I agree with Foscari up to a point, I would add that I think – I certainly hope – that Sajid Javid is intelligent enough to ask his contacts at the F&CO and MoD about what would have been required & the risks to all involved to get Shamima Begum (9 months pregnant at the time) out of the camp. Same again after the baby was born.

          IIRC, the Home Sec is on record on the BBC and in the House as stating it would have required putting the lives of diplomats, and I also assume military personnel PLUS the life of Shamima Begum and her newborn, at risk just to reach her, let alone get her out of the country.

          Sajid Javid, again IIRC, stated he had reviewed the situation and refused to put other lives at risk.

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        • LastChanceSaloon says:

          F
          Have we seen any actual evidence that any of these babies ever existed?
          I will believe it when we have DNA evidence, not before.
          If the baby does exist you may rely on the fact that it will remain innoncent for the minimum time possible.
          Because it will be force fed Jihad etc 24/7.
          You may also rely on the fact that Muslims despise you because you are not one.
          This “loving thine enemy” and “turning the other cheek” whilst waiting for “the meek to inherit the earth” or even “divine intervention” is a strategy which will fail.

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      I would have had no problem with the baby, if it even existed, being sent back here without the mother. Provided it was not adopted into the same sort of community that allowed its mother to consider beheadings perfectly normal.

      None of these was an option.

      I don’t accept it’s a Muslim. Being Muslim is a belief, not a race and it would be far too young to have any belief.

      However, I don’t believe there was ever a baby. Or two previous. We’re being taken for mugs, with the active connivance of the BBC and the rest of the MSM.

      I have no doubt the silly b*tch will land up back here. In truth, what option do we have when by all accepted law she’s British? Why should we dump our problem on someone else? My real issue is that she won’t be dealt with properly on her return and will be treated as some sort of celebrity.

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      • Up2snuff says:

        RD, good post in your first three paras.

        Not sure about the rest. But if I was in Home Sec’s shoes I would be wanting all sorts of evidence plus the pathology report – examined by experts – in my hands before addressing the House on the matter.

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    • Zelazek says:

      Foscari,
      Don’t go, man. I enjoy your posts. You are clearly a decent, humane person. Nobody is going to come down on you like a ton of bricks for having compassion for an innocent baby.
      Shamima Begum’s child reminds me of a moral dilemma in the film “Gone Baby Gone”. Have you seen it? I think it is difficult to know what the right course of action is in some cases.

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    • G.W.F. says:

      Focari

      I accept your position and would agree that the baby is innocent and deserves protection from someone, certainly from the community that produced its mother.
      But, I have something to add which brings us back to BBC Bias. 1. Was there a baby? Did it exist or was it fakery, part of our Government and the state media’s attempt to reduce the righteous anger regarding those killers who may have been carrying out the Government’s anti Assad policy?
      2. If there was a baby, and she had lost two before that, then how close together were these pregnancies, and what chance did these close pregnancies have given the unhygienic shitholes these people inhabit?
      Sadly, there are no journalists around who would care to investigate this story.

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      • Kaiser says:

        If flabbot was in government the “alleged” baby would be getting a state funeral and buried in westminster abbey

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      • Rob in Cheshire says:

        Was the baby called Aylan Kurdi by any chance?

        The baby, if it existed, was a prop in a psyop by a jihadi who would kill you in the name of allah without a second thought.

        If the baby could have been rescued, would its mother have been willing to part with it, or would she have insisted on accompanying it? Can you imagine the scenes on TV (because it would all have been filmed) of Special Forces snatching a baby from the arms of a muslim mother? Talk about a piece of agitprop for the jihadis.

        In reality, the rescue of this baby (if it existed) was never on. No British politician could justify the risk to British life to rescue a traitor and her alleged child. I would never volunteer for such a mad mission, so I have no right to expect a British soldier to risk his life to help a traitor. She rejected our country, and pledged allegiance to the islamic state. So be it. She is welcome to stay there for the rest of her life, however short that may be.

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  11. john in cheshire says:

    This video is by Alan Craig, UKIP’s spokesman on the family, is well worth the 12 minutes to watch.

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    • taffman says:

      Put the GREAT back into Britain.
      Vote and support UKIP.
      A first class speech.

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  12. Fedup2 says:

    From our own correspondent watch

    That awful beeboid Stephen Sakker went to Hungary to give the heroic Victor Orbsn a blast of snowflake BBC assassination .

    Sakker got nowhere . No one would talk to him – he says he even got thrown out of a cafe in Mr Orbans ‘village when he started asking questions .

    Hungarians are obviously ahead of their time because they refuse the BBC . Why talk to them ? Why interact ? There will only be one version reported and it won’t be the truth .

    I’m sad that they let Sakker in the country at all as he turns up with that colonial attitude the BBC brings with its sneer to other countries it considers inferior .

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    • TrueToo says:

      Fedup2,

      Good to see that the BBC’s foul reputation has spread far and wide.

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    • Guest Who says:

      Be interesting if, on behalf of the nation for whom it speaks, the BBC does a hit job on an entire other nation it does not approve of because they don’t put up with their BS.

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    • RJ says:

      “Hungarians are obviously ahead of their time because they refuse the BBC . Why talk to them ? Why interact ? There will only be one version reported and it won’t be the truth .”

      Earlier this week I watched a rerun of The Winslow Boy on Talking Pictures. Near the end there is a line that always makes me think of the BBC, even though the film is set in 1912.

      The press are clamouring for a statement by Arthur Winslow and he asks Sir Robert Morton what he should say. Morton’s reply is: “Why I hardly think it matters, whatever you say will have very little bearing on what they write”.

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  13. LastChanceSaloon says:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-vote-theresa-may-deal-commons-speech-parliament-a8813861.html

    So if MPs do not vote for Theresa the #1 Traitor’s non Brexit deal “We might never leave the EU”. So the choice is no Brexit or no Brexit.

    Whatever happened to “”This is your decision. The government will implement what you decide.”?

    My watch says it is five to mass collateral damage time.

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  14. Halifax says:

    BBC reporting that man has been charged with the murder of Jodie Chesney. The BBC (report below) fails to mention he is a Croation. Now why would they fail to mention that ????

    A man has appeared in court charged with the murder of a 17-year-old girl who was stabbed to death in a park in east London.

    Jodie Chesney was knifed in the back near a children’s playground in Harold Hill, Romford, last Friday.

    Manuel Petrovic, 20, was remanded in custody after appearing at Barkingside Magistrates’ Court.

    Mr Petrovic, of Highfield Road, Romford, will next appear at the Old Bailey on Monday.

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  15. TrueToo says:

    StewGreen,

    Saw your comment on the sidebar here re the disappearing of the Panodrama comment from YouTube – so I went there and it’s indeed gone. Saw your comment reproducing the disappeared one.
    Perhaps they deleted it because he called the BBC and Guardian “wankers.” (Or perhaps he deleted it himself, if possible.)

    Dunno, there’s a lot worse all the time in YouTube comments

    I can’t find your comment on this page or under my comment on page 2, so I’m responding here.

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    • StewGreen says:

      If you go to previous page, page 2 of this thread and click Ctrl-F to search for “viewing” you’ll find it.
      but I’ve read your comment now.

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  16. Guest Who says:

    In other news…

    https://tradingaswdr.blogspot.com/2019/03/absence-and-fondness.html

    If only she could find an audience. Speaking of which..

    https://tradingaswdr.blogspot.com/2019/03/i-want-you-to-get-mad.html

    Interestingly, in one of his recent selective duels on twitter, Mr. Burley was bragging about audience increases. Clearly why the TVL needed hiking.

    Numbers really don’t matter when you are ‘unique’.

    https://tradingaswdr.blogspot.com/2019/03/having-laugh.html

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  17. Ed Hitter says:

    Mail online header: “Fury as Diane Abbott blames death of ISIS bride Shamima Begum’s baby on British government”
    BBC online header: “Javid criticised as IS bride’s baby dies”.
    Different takes. Blatant BBC bias.

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  18. StewGreen says:

    Metrolibland vs real world
    The Times Magazine gives 5 pages and the cover to Soubry’s Labour friend Jess Phillips

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  19. jip says:

    So Attorney General Geoffrey Cox has said that Tommy Robinson must stand retrial because its in the public interest:

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47484831

    Of course this is the same Geoffrey Cox MP who back in 2016 failed to declare £400,000 pounds of outside earnings… in that case of course a prosecution was not in the public interest… it was just an accident, because i’m sure you all know how it is for £400,000, to slip your mind.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-35496321

    And does the BBC question this guys integrity or outside interests??? Not on your friggin nelly!!!!

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    • Doublethinker says:

      Of course if TR was of a different faith it would not be in the public for him to stand trial because his coreligionists would riot in most of our ( well they were ours once) cities. But we don’t that sort of thing.

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  20. LastChanceSaloon says:

    Subject electricity smartmeters not BBC bias.
    Update to my post recently.
    This is about my supplier, NPower.
    But I would not be surprised to discover other suppliers have the same policies.
    I have contacted NPower, several times, to advise them I will never have a smartmeter.
    Twice they emailed me confirming that I had been removed from their smart meter customer list.
    Yet after a couple of months I get another email advising me of my appointment when they will fit my smartmeter!

    This time I approached the problem from a different direction, one which works with most organisations, and with which I expect many of you are familiar.

    I told them I was moving to another supplier, instant reaction.
    Why do I want to move?
    Because I am sick of being pestered and harassed about a smartmeter I have repeatedly told them I will not have fitted.
    NPower will investigate and ‘phone me back shortly (heard this before).

    NPower phone back promptly, as promised.
    It’s the fault of the computer, every eight weeks it generates a list of customers who have not had a smartmeter fitted and sends them an email. Those British Computers with Norwegian names.
    But this time NPower really, really, have permanently deleted me from the list, and will not contact me again about smartmeters.
    In eight weeks I expect to receive another appointment.

    I hope this is of some use to a BBBC user.

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    • Dystopian says:

      If it helps, there is an electricity supplier called Affect Energy and I am aware that they are not in a position to support smart meters at this time. Therefore they are not pushing them.

         5 likes

    • Fred Stubber says:

      Utility Point don’t support smart meters.
      Fred

         3 likes

  21. StewGreen says:

    Times : Corbyn’s Labour gets a kicking in a double page spread

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    • StewGreen says:

      Corbyn advisor Andrew Murray

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      SG
      “She took advantage of the position she was in to give her side a bit of help in the international class struggle.”

      Well not quite, she infiltrated into a position chosen specifically because it would enable the traitor to assist
      the mass murdering Communist machine. Never showed any remorse.

      This planned infiltration still occurs, as a mere glance at the numerous rotten institutions in the UK proves.
      On our way out of the EU we need to carry out a lefty cull.

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  22. Old Timer says:

    Coming to a community near you very soon!

    Muslims Riot For 4th Night Running in Grenoble, France.
    Can’t see it on the old beauty BBC
    https://www.infowars.com/muslims-riot-for-4th-night-running-in-grenoble-france/

    What a surprise.
    And we have a few million of these happy souls

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  23. StewGreen says:

    17 y/o “Aspiring Barrister” stabbed to death
    Times : https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/london-knife-crime-latest-victim-was-aspiring-barrister-who-had-survived-three-attacks-fwfz3sbhw
    by Times reporter named Fariha Karim

       11 likes

    • Ian Rushlow says:

      Oh dear. You know things are badly wrong when even The Times no longer bothers to do a spellcheck. The correct spelling is ‘barista’.

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    • john in cheshire says:

      Out of interest, what is meant by the word aspiring? Is it used like the term far right to mean anything and nothing?
      I mean, for example, was he studying law, had he shown an aptitude for the law, did his best mate tell him he should be a lawyer?
      Or is it yet another example of MSM fakery?

      I suppose we’re all aspiring to be something even fake news creators, working for the far-left bbc collective

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  24. StewGreen says:

    Invoking Jo Cox to poison the well of Aaron Banks
    ‘yer know he sent an email the morning after Jo Cox died’
    .. and that was supposed to a campaiging suspended day’
    FFS…an email

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    • LastChanceSaloon says:

      SG
      Jo Cox, the world would be a much better place with 20,000,000ish fewer Cox types.

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      • Ian Rushlow says:

        “A single death is a tragedy; a million deaths is a statistic.” – Joseph Stalin (allegedly)

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    • theisland says:

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      • Kaiser says:

        The pause itself was of course in itself a campaign to remain , its what Jo would have wanted

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  25. StewGreen says:

    Times half page TearFund charity ad
    shows Headscarfed woman with child
    “PLASTICS DON’T JUST HARM OCEANS
    … UK government will double your donation before May 17th”

       31 likes

    • G says:

      SG,
      Perhaps:
      “We are committed to the UK being a world leader in tackling child grooming and rape carried out by Pakistani men”

         21 likes

  26. StewGreen says:

    When Times shouts “Far right” the story will be BS
    ‘ Hungary : Far left and far right join to fight Orban ‘
    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/unlikely-alliance-forms-in-a-bid-to-oust-viktor-orban-5n8sshmk9

       15 likes

    • G says:

      SG,
      No doubt financed by Soros et al.
      The sooner he’s strung up the better!

         19 likes

  27. StewGreen says:

    Venezuela babies are dying
    .. what’s Flabbot done ?

       22 likes

  28. pugnazious says:

    Oh the arrogance and contempt of the BBC. Shamima Begum’s baby has apparently died and Savid Javid is being blamed by the BBC for banishing her from the Kingdom….a result, the BBC tells us, of him pandering to ‘populist pressure’….or in other words understanding that most people in this country would be quite happy to see Begum live in an Islamic paradise as she so desired…just not in Luton or Birmingham…why doesn’t she try Saudi Arabia or Bangladesh where she has family?

    I keep hearing ‘she was only 15 and was groomed’…no…she actively sought out the websites and propaganda on the Internet…why do that? Because of the diet of anti-western pap she had been fed at home, in the mosque and in the community about ‘The West’, Israel and all that…much of the same messaging coming from the BBC of course.

    The BBC dismissing Javid’s decision as one that panders to populist pressure suggests they think the ‘populists’ are wrong, maybe stupid, maybe immoral. Only the intelligent and educated, right-thinking, progressive, woke, social justice warriors such as employed by the BBC should be allowed to decide such issues. Well, for years they have been making those decisions…flooding Europe with immigrants against the wishes of the ‘populist’ majority…and the result? Terrorism, crime, social disorder, division and conflict.

    Maybe it’s time for the ‘Deplorables’ to have ago.

    As Douglas Murray says in The Spectator:

    ‘As has often been said, ‘Islamophobia’ is a word created by fascists and used by cowards to manipulate morons. As it happens, we have plenty of religiously inclined fascists in Britain (as in America), including a number now in positions of legislative power from across the parties. We also have a whole plethora of cowards, from left and right, willing to dodge any problem and audibly sigh with relief as they imagine that having dodged the problem they will no longer have to encounter it again. But the one positive thing is that there are fewer morons than the fascists and cowards would wish. The general public are not morons. And we can find things out for ourselves. We have access to information. And so it would seem that in the matter of ‘Islamophobia’, as with a range of other matters, it is the people who are expected to be morons who will have to continue to correct the people who aspire to lead us.,

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    • TrueToo says:

      pugnazious,

      Excellent observation from Murray, as always. But I would change one word in the final sentence:

      Rather than aspire to lead us, I would say purport to lead us.

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  29. Fedup2 says:

    There was a fair radio programme on R4 today . I know it’s shocking . It was “the week in Westminster “ which was chaired by a journo from The Times

    Briefly 2 former spads gave an analysis of the variations on Brexit in the week to come as we get closer to the wire .

    Also on the programme was the lovely fragrant Stella Creasy and Ian Duncan Smith on knife crime in Londonistan .

    I haven’t heard a ‘fair ‘ ‘balanced’ programme on the BBC for a very long time – back to normal next week with a beeboid presenter …

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  30. pugnazious says:

    The only reason Muslim women wear the veil in the West is either because they are highly politicised Islamists or they are genuinely oppressed.

    The activists will say ‘No, it’s our choice, we are Muslims and this is what Muslims wear…and we choose to wear it.’ Except that’s nonsense. The only reason it’s ‘Muslim’ is because the rules of Islam were written by men. They say you must wear this and tell you it is a message from God. You choose to do what men tell you Islam demands. It’s no choice.

    The BBC however thinks the niqab is a symbol of rebellion, a sign of female empowerment….no, really…on International Women’s Day they tell us this highly oppressive form, stifling form of control by men of women is part of the ‘Wardrobe of Rebellion’….so is the BBC encouraging Islamist Muslims to ‘rebel’ against the countries they live in and force Islam upon these countries?…..

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/resources/idt-sh/wardrobe_of_rebellion

    ‘Sarah Ali was walking down the street with her eight-year-old son. “If the police stop us, don’t get afraid,” she reminded him. “We just don’t have the same rights as other people.”

    Sarah lives in Denmark, where the niqab – a veil covering the face, leaving only the eyes visible – is banned in public. But she still wears hers.

    “There are only 30-50 women in Denmark who wear the niqab,” she tells the BBC. “Most of us are very active in local communities. Now they want to punish us for basically dressing.”

    Denmark has followed the lead of other European countries, such as France and Belgium, in banning clothing which obscures the face. The law prohibits any face coverage, with the exception of “reasonable” cases. Otherwise, the fine is 1,000 Danish Krone ($150).

    The bill was passed through parliament with a strong majority, but has split Danish society. Many welcome the restrictions on a garment they see as oppressive for women, while others view the ban as racist and anti-Muslim.

    While only 13 Danish women were fined during its first six months, several defy the new law on a daily basis. Moving around the streets, they risk being reported to the police at any time.

    “As soon as I step out my front door, my heart is in my throat,” one woman told Danish Public Service.

    Ms Ali is a founding member of Kvinder i Dialog, Women in Dialogue, a group that encourages people to listen to the opinions of the women who wear niqabs.

    While several European countries have banned the full-face veil in public, in countries such as Iran and Saudi Arabia it is mandatory for women to keep their head covered in public. Sarah Ali’s personal hope is that the focus switches to what the niqab-wearing women themselves think.

    “Muslim women have been dehumanised,” she says. “Once that happens, our rights can be taken away so quickly. I’ve not done anything, but suddenly my clothes are illegal.” ‘

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    • Roland Deschain says:

      She is correct. Muslim women have been dehumanised. By turning them into bin bags and pillar boxes.

         25 likes

      • Guest Who says:

        Many have been by others. However the numbers voluntarily taking the step is not small.

        Worst is the media who created an environment where it ever became a rational option.

        The sisters in the BBC cubicle gardens have a lot to answer for.

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    • RJ says:

      Given the risk of violence in communities with a muslim majority it can make sense for the women to wear anti-flash hoods, even if they’re not made to Royal Navy specification.

         9 likes

  31. pugnazious says:

    Watching the BBC news channel and someone from a thinktank came on to talk about Brexit. He made an egregious mistake…he actually made an attempt to bring a bit of context, nuance and informed reasoning into the studio…he actually suggested Labour should bear some of the blame for Brexit.

    Immediately jumped on by the BBC presenter who snapped ‘You can’t be blaming Labour…this was right-wing Tories who did this.’

    So two things….one, as the guest pointed out, Labour has voted all along first to have the referendum and then to set Art.50 and all that followed in motion. Two, discontent with the EU is not a right-wing plot by a small extremist group of hardcore Eurosceptics as the BBC and its Remain fellow travellers keep trying to suggest….Corbyn and much of the Left hate the EU for the same reasons many voted to leave…its undemocratic nature, its failure to genuinely represent the interests of the people and the fact it runs Europe in the interest of Big Business not the people. The BBC keeps telling us that the referendum was just about keeping the Tory Party together…anyone with an ounce of sense could see such a referendum would obviously do the exact opposite, as it did…so a completely false analysis by the BBC to suit its narrative that ‘no-one really wanted a referendum…let’s all forget it and stay in the EU’….the BBC curiously fails to note when talking about this that the Labour Party is similarly torn on the same subject and Corbyn is manoeuvring desperately to keep things together…basically by not committing openly to any stand-point.

    17.4 million voters can’t be dismissed by the BBC as a fringe group of far-right extremists. But they do make a good go of trying to do so.

    BBC still pumping out the lies and misinformation on an industrial scale about Brexit and so much else.

       51 likes

    • TrueToo says:

      pugnazious,

      I suspect there is another reason Corbyn is basically pro-Brexit: as a socialist who lusts after power he understands very well that the socialists in control of the EU lust after total power over all member states , in the form of a super state with its own army.

      So if Brexit fails, any Brit who ascends to the lofty heights of PM will find his power and influence drastically curtailed.

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  32. Kaiser says:

    https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/17488067.worcester-councillor-quits-green-party-over-anti-semitism-and-joins-conservatives/

    seems the leftist infection is widespread , quite why she didnt join the lib-dums though is anyones guess

       17 likes

    • Thoughtful says:

      Probably seeing as the Greens are really as Red as the Communists they are it’s not much of a step over to the Commieserveyourselves and their Marxist leader.

         9 likes

  33. G says:

    Just goes to show how evil and devious is our political elite. Read about Leave.UK’s deselection efforts –
    https://leave.eu/tory-hq-alienate-activists-over-agms/

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  34. Kaiser says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-47499676

    an excellent “its not real socialism article”

    “In Chavez’s name, Nicolás Maduro is destroying socialism, is destroying Chavismo, is destroying progressive ideas in Latin America and around the world.” he said. “The CIA [Central Intelligence Agency] themselves couldn’t have done a better job!”

    “I’d say it’s an improvised, right-wing government, which is constantly moving closer to fascism.”

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  35. ScottishCalvin says:

    North Korea is busy building rockets, potentially nuclear missiles. Meanwhile the BBC News website has such junk as “Why are avocados and kale so popular?” and “The school saving lives with dance”

       16 likes

  36. Guest Who says:

    ITTB and here have seen this in genesis.

    https://www.conservativewoman.co.uk/hardline-hoey-and-the-bbc-at-its-slippery-worst/?

    Frankly cannot comprehend how senior BBC staff can look in mirrors. Unless there is no reflection.

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  37. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Brexit: Crufts breeders at Birmingham show share EU exit fears””

    “”……overseas numbers have fallen – to 3,611 competing this year, compared with 3,623 in 2018.””

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-coventry-warwickshire-47485371

    So, 3,623 last year. Only 3,611 this year. A drop of 12 entrants.

    That’s a drop by a fraction of 1%.

    Dear BBC, this is fake news to suit your constant anti-Brexit narrative.

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  38. pugnazious says:

    Ah it’s all coming together…..two previous posts, one on Begum and one on Islamic dress, combined in a simple proof of truth for the BBC to ponder….from the Mail…

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6789425/Guards-forced-isolate-foreign-ISIS-women-Syrian-camp-attacked-occupants.html

    ”They say we are infidels for showing our faces’: Refugee women are attacked by ISIS brides at Syrian camp for failing to follow caliphate’s doctrine’

    ‘Foreign ISIS women have tried to assault others they deem ‘infidels’ for defying the caliphate at the camp where they are being held in northeast Syria – even as the jihadists are facing territorial defeat.

    ‘They yell at us that we are infidels for showing our faces,’ said a Syrian woman at al-Hol camp, where women and children were transferred from the ISIS final bastion in eastern Syria. ‘They tried to hit us.’

    ‘The foreigners throw stones. They swear at the Syrians or Iraqis and at the camp officials. Even the kids make threats,’ said a security official at the camp. ‘

    Not much repentance and willingness to reform there then…a small taste of what Begum would bring back to Britain.

    Guarantee she would be touring the studios playing the victim, blaming the government and the police for her radicalisation, and carrying on with her ‘jihad’ in the media…as well as in the courts…no doubt her dodgy lawyer will think of some scam to shake us all down.

    BBC will be there every step of the way supporting her…ala Phil Shiner.

       30 likes

    • Peter Grimes says:

      At 18.30 on Sky news there was a professor of conflict studies/terrorism from Bucks Uni sticking it (metaphorically only thank goodness) to the fugly representative of the Grauniad who often appears on the paper reviews/early morning chats.

      She gave it the Flabbott line that Saj had killed this child and he stuck to the true Brit line about everything having been asserted (by a terrorist) andthat there was no proof that any child was hers and her Dutch husband’s.

      He got quite heated but good for him!

         27 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        It was @AnthonyGlees
        ..but the rest of the time he tweets obsessively against Brexit, against JRM etc.

           6 likes

      • pugnazious says:

        Maybe a cold, hard calculation going on….which image gets more sympathy with a certain audience[BBC/Guardian/Lefty opportunistic politicians]…the sad mother and baby or the grieving mother who has lost her baby due to the callousness of the British government? Which gets the loveys’ vote?

        Did the baby die a natural death or was he sacrificed as part of a cynical media attention-grabbing stunt to get Begum back home and cause as much trouble as possible for the government?

        Not as if she hasn’t shown she is somewhat indifferent to death and suffering in others especially if it is in a ‘good cause’.

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  39. Thoughtful says:

       16 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Oh do the oki cokey …

         8 likes

      • Scroblene says:

        That’s Tunbridge Wells Borough Council debating the £90,000,000 vanity project for new, plush, council offices, some ‘useless business space’ and a ‘theatre’!

        Poll tax revenues to be decided next year of course…

           17 likes

    • Lefty Wright says:

      Thoughtful
      Very entertaining but where’s the birds and the beer.

         10 likes

  40. Lefty Wright says:

       16 likes

    • Up2snuff says:

      LW, desperate publicity … ?

         4 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      Quote: “Say what you like about Isis but they’re not Islamophobic”
      \\ I guess if the woke read this book (which I doubt), they will damn it as far-right propaganda
      .. and not find it amusing, since dogmatism kills all sense of humour.
      … its satire is a direct hit on the awful state of the left, in all its nihilism, narcissism and illogic,
      … and its self-defeating, petty-minded thought policing. Woke is no joke. //

      Sprinkled throughout the book are real quotes that demonstrate a worrying left-wing “truthiness”.
      Such as the US congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez:
      … “I think there’s a lot of people more concerned about
      .. being precisely factually and semantically correct than about being morally right.”

      Or David Lammy MP on the referendum result
      : “The government’s ‘will of the people’ mantra is bollocks.”

      screenshot Times full review

         17 likes

      • StewGreen says:

        Top comments there
        \\ Brilliant. We need more of this comedy, sad to say I doubt the BBC would ever allow it.//

        \\ The BBC are the comedy, they just don’t know it. //

        \\ I followed Owen Jones for a while.
        … Took about 6 months until I realised it wasn’t a spoof account! //

           24 likes

    • BRISSLES says:

      That’s what I like about those who proclaim solidarity with the downtrodden and marginalised, they’re so classy.

      Sadly being a feminist in the eyes of many equates to just being coarse. It has to be said that those with breeding who utter the F word, say it in such a way that the vicar would just ask for more tea !

         15 likes

  41. StewGreen says:

    R4 Now in the Archive Hour
    a clip where The Cambridge footlights mock Jonathon MIller for being “A Jew”
    .. a sketch no new performers could do I guess
    Prog topic is : the history of offensive comedy/censorship

       8 likes

    • StewGreen says:

      They played a clip of Bernard Manning … It was funny*
      .. Then 3 mins of a black British comedienne who works in the US “I I’m glad those days are over.

      Note they didn’t bring a third voice on to condemn Russel Brand’s stunt
      ..but rather played a long clip of Brand’s own apology instead

      * … “I was in Bradford the other day
      ………………… I felt like the white spot on a domino”

      …………………….
      They played a Benny Hill clip , which was a “rape” joke
      … it was coarse, but not fatal.

         13 likes

    • Kaiser says:

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  42. StewGreen says:

    FFS a stuck record at the start of every new bulletin, hour after hour
    “The government decision about Begum’s baby is being HEAVILY criticised”

    #1 There was NO decision about the baby
    \\ Begum herself had said she would not allow the baby to come to the UK without her.
    Sky aired that interview numerous times.
    She wouldn’t let the child come here. //

    #2 Criticised by who
    The jailing of Tommy was ” HEAVILY criticised”, just not by the metroLib establishment
    The BBc is saying that metroLib establishment voices count and other don’t

    It’s not just a TR thing … again and again the PUBLIC through opinion polls do “HEAVILY criticise” many government decisions
    .. but no reports about that begin with similar phrases

    Petition : Ban all ISIS members from returning to the UK, remove their citizenship and passports
    579,078 signatures
    https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/231521

       28 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew

      I was thinking about how we could build an index of BBC weasel words and terms – such as ‘ heavily criticised ‘ and the many others with which friends on this site are well aware – some might say ..

         15 likes

  43. Guest Who says:

    “To everyone, I am sorry about Shamima.”

    Shamima Begum’s father apologises for her decision to join the Islamic State group, and asks the UK to take her back.
    https://bbc.in/2EMdE4h

    ****

    The bbc seems to have created its own soap,opera.

       23 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      Guest
      I understand the terrorists’ father was interviewed by the BBC in Bangladesh . It woukd be ideal for the terrorist to join her father in the home country – she could take her ‘ husband’ terrorist with her and we could stop wasting words on something of no value .
      With a bit of luck the last piece of real estate that ISIS controls will be flattened very soon – along with the terrorists occupying it .

         28 likes

  44. JamesG says:

    The way that some people are blaming the British government for the death of the ISIS woman’s baby is the single most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard in my life.

       43 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      James
      I disagree – the idea of Jeremy Corbyn being the leader of the Labour Party takes some beating .

      However – the creatures coming out of the woodwork criticising a Muslim Home Secretary
      Says a lot about Blighty – soubry – Diane Abbot – Philip Lee ( Tory MP) . Funny how these people can ignore what ISIS has done – and will do – to us

         30 likes

    • Kaiser says:

      “alleged baby”

         20 likes

  45. StewGreen says:

    !0pm news ..clap hands
    “the number of Yellow Vests in france has fallen to 29,000”

       16 likes

  46. JamesG says:

    Off topic: my computer just froze for a moment and as a result I ended up accidentally clicking on the “report comment” button on this page. I don’t know which comment or user it was, but if they get a message about it, it was a mistake. Apologies to whoever it was.

       8 likes

    • Fedup2 says:

      JamesG
      Your ‘ reported’ came through to me in the biased BBC bunker – which is manned 25 hours a day – ready to repel trolls and people using Rudy words or otherwise being naughty .

         16 likes

    • Roland Deschain says:

      I shouldn’t worry. Many of us fat-fingered posters have stabbed “report” instead of “reply”.

         10 likes

      • Fred Stubber says:

        I say, it would be jolly useful if ‘reply’ was moved away from ‘report’, if this is technically feasible, what what?

        Fred (Just back from dining in a Pugin house with a lord)

           8 likes

  47. Guest Who says:

    Anthony seems more than smitten.

    But his heart does seem open to OCD too.

       17 likes

  48. jip says:

    The BBC gets its priorities straight giving front page reporting, telling us that yesterday:

    “Shamima Begum: Sajid Javid criticised as baby dies”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-47506145

    Hidden away on the BBC website also news from yesterday, but far, far less important:

    “Twenty arrested in Wakefield child sexual exploitation inquiry”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-leeds-47501300

    That report describes 2 victims and 20 perpetrators… that’s nearly 10 perpetrators per victim…. we are talking here about massive child rape, not some filthy jihaddi bride..

    So BBC, why is Shamima Begum who knowingly ran away to join a group beheading infidels… more important than yet another instance of child gang rape?

    To put this in contest, in the UK There are estimated to be up to a million child gang rape victims:

    https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-sex-abuse-gangs-could-5114029

    Other recent court cases indicate 8 perpetrators per victim (55 perpetrators, 7 victims… and we routinely see 8-10 perpetrators per victim, and often over 100 rapes per victim)

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8195535/arrest-fifty-five-men-west-yorkshire/

    A million victims would mean 10 million Islamic child rape perpetrators, and maybe 100 million rapes….

    Even if the numbers are over inflated, and the real numbers are just 10% of this… we’d still be looking at a MILLION perpetrators and 10 MILLION rapes.

    Yet we only have 1.5 million Muslim men in the country… can this really be a “minority” on Muslims?

    The BBC makes me want to vomit, i truly feel sick… i’m pretty sure that 90% of teh British public could not give a toss if Shamima Begum was dead.

    Decent normal people would be far more concerned about millions of instances of Islamic child rape, if only the filth at the BBC and in the rest of the degenerate filth in MSM would report it, properly and in context.

       40 likes

  49. taffman says:

    “How does a museum remember a defeat?”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47427608
    How Al Beeb likes to put GB down. It should be called the EBC service .
    “Accurate” ? Not so, there were a ‘few’ Welshmen there with one or two bows.
    So much for the historians mentioned in the article .

       14 likes

  50. taffman says:

    “No-deal Brexit threat to ‘billions of pounds’ of chemicals”
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47490027
    We just don’t believe you anymore.
    Simples.

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