Midweek Open Thread 6 March 2019

I don’t know about you but Brexit is exhausting me and the Far Left BBC bias is making it worse so over to you …

PS – for those starting their Lent journey – good luck over the next 40 days to Easter …

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562 Responses to Midweek Open Thread 6 March 2019

  1. Lucy Pevensey says:

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  2. StewGreen says:

    relating to the above the-ending-of-free-speech-the-left-wins-hands-down
    https://independencedaily.co.uk/the-ending-of-free-speech-the-left-wins-hands-down

    I have a comment there sitting in moderation

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  3. StewGreen says:

    #3 Live with the Twitter bosses , Tim Pool explains how the left attack
    and look how he instantly smeared
    see the full thread

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  4. StewGreen says:

    #4 And if you are doing #CorrectSpeak you don’t get banned
    Stuchbery

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  5. StewGreen says:

    FFS When I went to this tweet,
    Twitter covered up the pic with the message
    “This image may contain sensitive content”
    .. seriously

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  6. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    When, during negotiations, one side has a fantastic deal and the other side has a dreadful deal, if it is eventually passed and signed off then it never lasts and usually has very bad consequences. Just think of the humiliation of Germany by the Allies after WW1 and the result of the Compeigne surrender terms and what followed.

    May has completely surrendered to the eu and the vassal state rules we must obey are indeed a total capitulation.
    The eu can’t believe it’s luck.
    Trump diplomatically said “it’s a good deal for the eu”
    We can all see how rubbish and one sided it is.

    If the WA goes ahead it cannot last, it will cause riots.
    It will be replaced as soon as we can vote in a proper government, 2022 at the latest.

    Just imagine if it was the other way round.
    The eu pays us £40 billion plus £10-£20 billion a year to be allowed to trade with us.
    To have no access to our fish.
    We have 73 seats at the eu with whatever influence that gives.
    The eu is under U.K. law.
    And so on……

    That would be totally one sided and unacceptable.
    It could never work.
    The same applies to this WA and whatever else (everything) May will give away to remain with brino.

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    • G says:

      EG,
      “It will be replaced as soon as we can vote in a proper government, 2022 at the latest.”
      At the time the Fixed Term Parliaments Act 2011 came into force I was suspicious. Particularly when learning the evil Clegg was principally behind it. Now I see, everyone has been outmanoeuvred by our equally evil Parliamentarians without even seeing it coming. The only way to bring a Government down and force an election is if two-thirds of the HoP vote No Confidence. This legislation was tested in the HoP mere weeks ago and found to be lacking.
      This Government has turned Brexit completely around in just over two years. All the political elite know they will get a severe culling at the next election. But, hey ho! what stops them getting together to conspire to divert the peoples wrath in 2022 in the knowledge that a culling for them would alter the cosy HoC balance and probably let Farage et al. in. After all, they’ve got an equal amount of time to deconstruct and reconstruct the FT Parliaments Act in their favour. Why not abolish elections, completely destroy what’s left of democracy and free speech and have a two-party dictatorship?

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  7. s.trubble says:

    In my weekly visit to my mum this week she asked what I was giving up for lent. I said this is a custom that I have not followed but was able to make an exception this year!
    Two things I said,

    1) membership of the EU
    2) renewing the biased bBC licence tax

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  8. Terminal Moraine says:

    Tuning in to R5 Live at random points in the last day:

    — Female journalist (and daughter of Guardian editor Alan Rusbridger) Bella Mackie talks at length about her new book ‘Jog On: How Running Saved My Life’. It’s an “extraordinarily brave and frank account of her battle with anxiety.”

    — Female aspiring journalist (and finalist in the #BBCYoungReporter competition) Tayla talks at length about about the turmoil of growing up with an alcoholic mother who died young.

    — Female writer and presenter (the Times; Evening Standard) Emily Dean talks at length about her new book ‘Everybody Died, So I Got a Dog’. It’s a “beautifully written, funny, heartbreaking story of love, loss and starting again.”

    Media bubble? Wot media bubble?

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  9. NISA says:

    There appears to be an air of schadenfreude in this BBC report on the widening of the USA’s trade deficit, as it flies in the face of Trump’s efforts to shrink it. The BBC article fails to mention that the US economy has grown so much more than the rest of the developed world in the past year. Perhaps that growth could just be responsible for pulling in imports???

    Trump dealt blow as US trade deficit jumps
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47472282

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    • Kaiser says:

      dont mention ours with the EU sssshhhh

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    • StewGreen says:

      Well Sarah Dunant just AGAIN devoted her monthly R4 history show to signalling how much she hates Trump.
      “The great orange one”
      “How can we deal with these leaders who like Trump have no shame ?”

      #Women = #Victimhood
      Prog was supposed to be about shaming
      there was great focus on women ,’collaborators’ after the war “They were shaved and paraded, again sexism’
      … yeh cos the male collaborators were more often just killed.
      .. The issue of whether many were actually innocent applies to both sexes.

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      • StewGreen says:

        links

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  10. Jeff says:

    Well, the news has been fascinating this afternoon. From The Old Bailey we heard that Muslim convert, Lewis Ludlow, planned a massacre in London’s west end. He’d intended to set off a truck bomb in Oxford Street to “make the British people pay with their blood.”
    Now, you can tell by looking at this pathetic specimen that he’s a couple of shillings short of a ten bob note; he’s “vulnerable” and was clearly exploited by vermin like Anjem Choudrey, with whom he’s been linked.
    Thankfully this dangerous half wit is now under lock and key though only for a minimum of 15 years, which I consider to be extraordinarily lenient. Alas Choudrey is now out and about.
    The next item on the news was the delightful case of a father organising an acid attack “on his own son.” The boy suffered burns to his face and arms in the attack. It wasn’t just the father who arranged it, he somehow managed to get five others to assist him in this evil venture. Where do you get five blokes to agree to do something like that? Hmm, let me see…
    Once again this despicable third world mentality utterly baffles me. Who (or what) could perpetrate such a heinous, vile, despicable crime on their own three year old son? It beggars all understanding.
    But you know what we’ve really got to be careful of?
    I’m sure the Beeb, The Guardian, and Channel 4 will all be lecturing us shortly…
    Islamophobia.

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  11. StewGreen says:

    R4 now Investigating Michael Jackson
    The Media Show
    Leaving Neverland is a Channel 4 and HBO documentary which alleges Michael Jackson was a paedophile. The director, Dan Reed, explains how he made the film and persuaded men who, as children, had been befriended by Jackson to tell their story.

    Also in the show, reporting anti-Semitism in the Labour Party and producing a newspaper for the Jewish community

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    • StewGreen says:

      Of course it’s part of free PR for Channel 4’s Jacko doco at 9pm tonight
      8pm Radio make Jacko qn the focus of the Moral Maze
      \\ The Morality of the Artist and the Art
      With Anne McElvoy, *Claire Fox* Matthew Taylor and *Melanie Philips*//
      … the only R4 show where left/Remain voices don’t automatically outnumber non-lefties

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  12. Vonbedda says:

    Heard some frightening stories of Immigrants scaring house buyers away from select houses around Leeds & Hull whereby….they will intimidate people to ensure only people from same country/culture/religion buy the house in their area.

    How is it we the “joe” public can source and find these stories, but an organization that receives a forced payment to the tune of 3 billion a year (BBC) can’t….

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    • StewGreen says:

      evidence ?

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      • Vonbedda says:

        I don’t have any evidence and completely understand why you would ask that.

        Ill be more vigilant in the future. I did say it was a story, an instance of what’s “supposedly” going down in parts of our country.

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        • StewGreen says:

          @V I wasn’t smacking you I was just inquiring if you could substantiate.
          If you do a Twitter search you might find something.

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          • Vonbedda says:

            I know mate…but I understand the negative affects of lambasting claims out there without any substantial evidence.

            No offence taken my friend .

            We are all here for the same reason.

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  13. Lucy Pevensey says:

    Glasgow University suspect package found in mailroom just hours before another is discovered at Essex uni
    https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/newslondon/glasgow-university-suspect-package-found-in-mailroom-just-hours-before-another-is-discovered-at-essex-uni/ar-BBUriVk?li=BBoPWjQ&ocid=mailsignout

    I can give you an absolute cast-iron guarantee that these events have absolutely nothing to do with the religion of pieces.

    “Essex Uni” Not University. The state of alleged journalism today.

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  14. StewGreen says:

    80’s TV presenter Magenta Devine has died at the age of 61 after an illness ,

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  15. StewGreen says:

    Libmob media all report : Denmark suffers from a ‘pervasive rape culture’, Amnesty claims
    (link: https://mol.im/a/6776927) mol.im/a/6776927
    @MailOnline

    Says massive underreporting cos system is useless at prosecution
    claim 24,000 cases lead to 94 prosecutions

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    • vlad says:

      Completely fails to mention the origin / religion of all those rapists.
      If it’s anything like Sweden, I’m guessing they’re not called Jensen and Nielsen.

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  16. StewGreen says:

    Times \\ Solicitor General Robert Buckland has announced that Facebook, Twitter and Google have agreed to a rapid “takedown” system to remove posts if they are in contempt of court, saying the move will help protect the “integrity” of jury trials. #law//
    #1 We’d fear that stuff would just get labelled contempt as an easy way to remove inconvenient info from public domain
    #2 You cant guarantee to shield a juror, cos other info would be available eg on encrypted WhatsApp groups

    #3 America just says to jurors ‘ignore all the crap on the internet and just rely on facts presented in court’
    ..we should do the same.

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Stew, we do do the same in the UK. The last time I did Jury Service (about which I will not write in detail – Jurors are instructed not to) the Judge gave a warning each day, IIRC, to the Jury to not look at any information relating to the case, nor to seek any extra information about the case, when outside the Courtroom. He was supported by the Jury Usher in his warnings who repeated them to us in the Jury Waiting Room.

      I was a bit surprised to see an article, on the BBC web-site the other day, titled ‘What goes on in a Courtroom.’ I wonder if the BBC journalist broke any rules?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Courtroom is ok – unless “ reporting restrictions to protect Pakistani racist paeodophile rapists aka the much nicer groomers – but jury room reporting is illegal unfortunately .

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  17. Guest Who says:

    https://www.journalism.co.uk/news/bbc-crossing-divides-season-returns-to-bring-divided-communities-into-one-room-and-report-solutions/s2/a735493/

    “Reporters take a mediated approach to reporting solutions-orientated stories”

    Me either. But reading it all, simply looks like more another BBC Eliot Carver squad.

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  18. Kaiser says:

    repeat after me

    Islam is not a race Islamaphobia is not racist

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-kent-47466625

    as the man said

    Islamophobia is “a word created by fascists, and used by cowards, to manipulate morons.”

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    • Up2snuff says:

      K, I know Protestants who still fear Roman Catholicism. Some Jews, too, may be fearful of Roman Catholicism after the 20th century. I hope no Roman Catholic Priests are still fearful for their lives, as they once were, in the UK and am glad that that bit of the past is well behind us. But I suspect that in Latin America, RC Priests may not be totally fear free when they come up against a Chavez or Maduro.

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      • Kaiser says:

        whats the worst a Roman Catholics are going to do to me, spike my condoms?

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Up2 – I don’t know if me Protestant mum feared me Catholic dad but I’m happy to have had a leg in either foot .smiley thing

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        • Up2snuff says:

          I’m struggling to remember what I wrote on here, a while back, about John Bunyan. He’s famous, not just for authorship of Pilgrim’s Progress but for being thrown in chokey by – in effect – the Church of England, merely for being a non-Conformist Baptist.

          Ah, … ageing over-full memory. At least I remembered JB’s name and the book title. 🙂

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    • StewGreen says:

      You have to admit that some people are prejudiced cos of Pak/Bangla just cos of their appearance
      .. but people have the right to be treated as individuals so you don’t immediately know if they are honourable from just looking.
      Women in particular maybe unfree to express that they don’t believe in the values of Islam etc.

      It’s the white pseudo-libs who are bad cos they’re the ones that closed discussion down.

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  19. Guest Who says:

    https://www.journalism.co.uk/news/key-tips-and-takeaways-before-reporting-from-the-middle-east-for-the-first-time-/s2/a735529/

    Jez and the ME team certainly seem to have understood what to look out for in some countries there and what they can get away with impunity.

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  20. taffman says:

    Breaking – yet another stabbing in London.
    Mrs Chamberlain and the Mayor of Londinistan are unable to do anything about it. They think its a disease ?
    You could not make it up .
    This is what you get when you import the third world.

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  21. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC are always concerned about what is out to get us …

    …. and the rest of the world on this occasion.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-47371078

    Malaria is missing from the list. I thought that was a massive killer in the undeveloped world, especially of children. It certainly concerned Bill & Melinda Gates who through their Foundation have recently set out to prevent deaths, especially infant ones, from malaria. Has their money had an immediate effect?

    The BBC omit to inform us.

    Maybe they want to keep the anxiety going?

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    • Rich says:

      Ok, I’ll ask it.

      Where are all those African infants that don’t die going to live?

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    • Kaiser says:

      pehaps bill will invent DDT

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    • StewGreen says:

      @Up2Stuff You are wrong & BBC is right
      cos malaria death toll reached 435 000 in 2017.
      ie less than 1% of 56million deaths that year

      BUT since the BBC doesn’t do science
      actually The BBC is wrong & you are right overall
      cos health professionals should not talk about raw deaths
      How many people will die on this planet ?
      … all of them of course

      The correct metric is Life Days Lost …. Quality Adjusted ..so QALDs
      And that’s where you malaria comes in
      Cos malaria often kills kids ..it is wiping out way more QALDs than some of the diseases that affect people in their old age like dementia.

      Diarrhea affect kids and kills at a rate triple that of malaria ..so it’s even worse
      Aids might kill about 1 million but much older so less QALDs

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      • Up2snuff says:

        What? Stew? Do you mean the BBC are only concerned about the 99%? And not the 1%? Not very Christian, that? (Think parable about sheep) Very Corbyn Labour, that is, however!

        I did wonder if the Malaria stat was too small to include. But that is not what we were being told by the BBC not so long ago. < (wish I could have underlined that sentence.)

        Which is my other most important point. As this is a site about BBC biases and errors, etc. Oh, Hallo Pounce, didn't see you there! (Missed, but not forgotten.)

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  22. StewGreen says:

    Hugo Rifkind : Another one who is projecting
    and thinks he’s smart cos he keeps saying “Yaxley Lennon”

    ..such dead-naming people is just a bullying sneering ad hom
    ie that’s the projection , hes behaving like the monster he says TR is

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    • Guest Who says:

      Needs a poof reader too.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Rip magenta Devine – who was really Kim Taylor from Hemel Hempstead – appparently.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ex public schoolboy with sense of entitlement pronounces on how the plebs should be controlled.

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    • StewGreen says:

      @GW Hugo has replied to me, so tell me if you want to message him about his grammar.
      He said
      \\ It’s not deadnaming.
      He hasn’t changed his name. Robinson is a pseudonym, not a new name.//

      I replied
      \\ It is a quite like deadnaming
      … because he gets death threats & has children he separates off his political activities by using the TR pseudonym
      Just like a stage name actor might travel under their real name to avoid hassle //

      Come to think of it look at the irony
      “SYL, SYL, SYL
      SYL bad man cos he doxxed Stuchberrys address”
      FFS by shouting “SYL” all the time they are doxxing TR’s real name

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  23. Kaiser says:

    another london stabbing

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Yes my home Londonistan borough – which ironically is the first ‘borough of culture ‘ or some similar nonsense – is trying to have more homicides this year than the normal winners – hackney and Lambeth . It’s doing really well . On my count it’s 5..
      I know this use of stats conceals the anguish of those involved but if you heard ~PMQs where the only concept of stopping these killings is throwing money at the cops – one might adopt the same jaded views.

      On the upside – the air ambulance pilots must be getting to know the area really well….

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      • Fedup2 says:

        By the way – withregard to the Londonistan borough with the worst killing record this year – it also has one of the worst hospitals / A and Es in the country so you don’t stand much of a chance at all if you’re a kid on the receiving end here ….

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  24. Sluff says:

    And today’s entry for BBC’Spot the Grievance’ is………
    Ambulances take longer to reach people in remote rural areas than in urban areas !!!!!!!!!!!

    Shock ! Horror !!! Total amazement.
    Next on the news. Dog bites man ‘because of Brexit’

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    • Kaiser says:

      The headline was originally

      “HOW FAST IS YOUR AMBULANCE”

      well firstly I dont have one
      but the last one I was in probably was as fast as every other one

      where do they get these people

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Roads are too long and need to be shortened . Also ambulances are too slow . Let them drive at 200 miles an hour .

      To think that the BBC wasted time money and effort on such a hair brained survey…

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      • RJ says:

        The last time I needed an ambulance the control room told me that I’d get to A&E quicker if I rang for a taxi. The best £30 I ever spent.

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  25. Dover Sentry says:

    Baroness Warsi in my view is stirring up claims of Islamophobia in the Conservative Party to deflect Antisemitism evidence against the Labour Party.

    Don’t expect the BBC to suggest or even contemplate this.

    Labour and Islam are the BBC’s chosen ones.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Dover
      The race victim industry is very competitive these days so one has to keep an edge in the ‘chip on the shoulder ‘ stakes – after all – she has been so hard done by with her lowly position after all . And Cameron needed a tick box job …

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  26. Sluff says:

    Coming up on BBC London.
    A group of women training/ working as mechanics and thereby ‘challenging stereotypes’.
    Not on BBC London. Anything about men getting jobs in nursing, social science, or any of the caring professions, where they are ‘significantly under-represented’, to coin a phrase.

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  27. Sluff says:

    Virtue-signalling overdrive.
    The BBC news focus on a scheme to get young people into journalism.
    Naturally the one student they interview is……..a female wheelchair bound with cerebral palsy. She goes on to interview another wheelchair user.
    What, statistically, are the chances of that ?
    The answer is about 1 in several thousand, which not only tells you a lot about the politically correct agenda in play at the bBBC but on this occasion quantifies it.

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  28. Thoughtful says:

    https://www.google.com/search?q=justin+trudeau&client=firefox-b-d&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiEnNTmke7gAhWEZlAKHahNDFcQ_AUIDygC&biw=2560&bih=1366

    Another one of the BBC golden boys is in deep trouble with scandals which might well end his premiership, but instead of the gloating when similar hits Trump, the BBC have short funerial type announcement.

    Check out the link because there are plenty of sites offering insightful analysis – unlike the BBC of course.

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  29. Sluff says:

    Yes, yes, yes.
    Will Smith is facing criticism over playing the role of father of Serena Williams in a forthcoming biopic because he is not black enough.
    Pure comedy gold.
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-47468011

       26 likes

    • vlad says:

      Or black comedy.

      I love it when virtue-signallers try to out-virtue-signal one another.

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  30. Vonbedda says:

    Fellow BTVLA’s

    Follow me on twitter and you shall be rewarded with a follow in return.

    @Vonbedda

    Peace out

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    • Kaiser says:

      careful there fella with your real name

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      • Vonbedda says:

        Thanks for the concern Kaiser.

        I wasn’t actually aware my own name was displayed on my twitter ?

        I’m an unintelligent social media amateur.

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  31. Thatcherrevolutionary says:

    ‘There is a direct correlation between the increase in knife crime and a reduction in police funding’

    Hmmm. It could equally be said there is a direct correlation between an increase in knife crime and an increase in third world immigration.

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  32. davylars says:

    Yesterday BBC 1 Lunchtime news carried a report on the sinking island of Ghoramara. Located in the Sundarban Delta complex of the Bay of Bengal
    The whole report was blamed solely on climate change, sea rise caused by global warming. The pièce de résistance of this report was a claim by the BBC reporter that there is a rise in the Bay of Bengal sea level, due to glaciers melting in the Himalayas. I nearly fell off my seat when I heard this.

    No mention at all that the Indian continent of the Indian plate is sinking into the Earth’s mantle beneath the Asian plate due to subduction and has been for the last 90 million years. Water levels have also been naturally rising since the last ice age.
    Lack of proper dredging undertaken by the Kolkata Port Trust has been blamed for coastal erosion. Also, because of the Farakka barrage and irrigation canals, sediments are now deposited further upstream instead of compensating erosion in the sea-facing islands.
    “The erosion started in the early 1980s,” That is when the port trust started an underwater bund, diverting the Kolkata-bound shipping route. The waves created by the ships started eroding the islands.
    This report was absolutely ridiculous. It was broadcasted with absolutely no research, containing false statements and blatant lies.
    Fake news BBC….

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  33. LastChanceSaloon says:

    StewGreen @12:35 earlier.

    “Dunno but on Twitter Keith Bartlam is investigating”
    Bartlam states “I have the complete 10 pages just before it was pulled”.
    One of which was on the link earlier today, but has now vanished.
    I would be very interested in viewing these documents, as I am sure would many others.
    If I was a member of the Twitterati I would suggest that he posts the screenshots here.
    I bet you are a member of the Twitterati .

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  34. Lucy Pevensey says:

    I want this to be true but it’s from The Sun so must take it with a grain of salt.

       29 likes

    • Vonbedda says:

      Wuhooooooo I couldn’t be happier !

      I hope they do go all out for NO DEAL scenario

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    • Dover Sentry says:

      The Sun is always right. That’s why the BBC ignore it.

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  35. Fedup2 says:

    We desperately need a lightweight distraction from the horrors of uk politic and uk city streets.

    I think I have the remedy

    As Jordan Peterson identifies on his twitter – the CBC news has turned against the snow flake pin up boy – Trudeau junior – who may be entering the twilight of his thankfully short political career .
    It’s a Classico popcorn job

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    • Vonbedda says:

      In that short time though…look at the damage he’s done…it will a long time to repair and sort the mess he’s left behind.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        With a bit of luck Canada will flip to common sense “ populism “ – which some might call democracy as opposed to the snow flake multicrap liberalism – of which I find a threat to my way of life and that of Blighty .

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    • Lucy Pevensey says:

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  36. Beeb Brother says:

    Lead story on Five Live news bulletin blames knife crime on youth services being cut.

    1. My kids do not go out stabbing when youth club is cancelled.

    2. Who on earth goes to ‘youth clubs’ now? It is not 1910.

    3. Surely you could meet hang members or stab people at ‘youth clubs’? If you like to stab people surely a bit of ping pong will not quell the homicidal urge; it could make it worse.

    4. Aren’t these youths too busy studying for Oxbridge to go to youth clubs?

    5. On what parallel moral universe could you possibly want to stab people to death? That level of wickedness transcends all the ‘youth services’ in the universe. This is never addressed.

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    • Kaiser says:

      there are 0 youth clubs within a twenty mile radius of here and yet

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    • fakenewswatcher says:

      Your point 5 is spot on, BB. The PC crowd have created the parallel moral universe you enquire about.
      Whatever happened to factual language, also known as the truth? Let’s begin by calling people who murder other people ‘murderers’.
      All this pussyfooting around trying to all but justify such activity is typical of the PC crowd. Forever trying to pin down something in society wot dunnit.
      Poor little killers are never responsible for their own actions. Task one of PC journos seems to be to pervert the truth, followed by bending the facts and creating diversions.
      ‘Lack of yoof clubs’ is always a good diversion, they think.
      That way the 5 live propaganda bulletin can blame murder on (implicitly Tory) cuts..
      Very ‘impartial’, of course.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Youth Clubs were not around in 1910, there was barely enough to eat, let alone have funding for community projects.

      Youth Clubs came into their own in the 50’s and 60’s when skiffle was popular and the advent of rock’n’roll. It was more than ping pong, as it was the first era when teenagers started to emerge as dressing for themselves rather than younger versions of their Mum or Dad. If you lived outside the big cities where the dance Meccas could be found, then all you had were the ‘youth clubs’ for entertainment, and where we danced to the records of the 60’s played on somebody’s Dansette record player.

      Frankie Vaughan, i(f you’ve never heard of him, then Google him) was a big advocate of boys clubs and youth clubs…… ” In his early life, he was a member of the Lancaster Lads’ Club, a member group of the National Association of Boys’ Clubs in the UK, and in his career he was a major contributor to the clubs, dedicating his monetary compensation from one song each year to them…………

      In the late 1960s, Vaughan, involved himself with a youth project in Easterhouse, Glasgow. He was appalled by the level of violence amongst young people. Vaughan held meetings with the gang leaders and appealed for them to surrender their weapons. ” – this was half a century ago, so nothing ever changes, except the colour of the perpetrators.

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      • tarien says:

        Yes Brissles well recall Frankie Vaughan, well thought of by the Jewish fraternity I worked with. In view of what he did I joined the TA at 20 yrs of age, and met many young men who came from the East End of London and who had got into violent gangs. Two years in the TA and they were changed men, who appreciated certain social necessities and some rose in the ranks and joined the regulars. I was not an officer although was offered a commission, but went back into my industry. Perhaps because of my time in the TA and seeing because of it, young fellows change into very decent men, that is why I continue to promote a return of National Service to teach firstly respect for others and then for oneself, apart from learning to live and work alongside others. Some I know got married and had children and develped their lives away from the culture of gang violence.

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    • Payne by name says:

      Yeah, I’ve seen ‘Why don’t you’ and youth clubs are places where kids kick televisions, bully other members, sell drugs, plan burglaries and entertain visiting TV crews with tales about how they love chemistry or one day want to play for England.

      Kids wouldn’t have to be swept up from the streets like feral rats if their parents actually bothered to care what they might be doing when school was finished (for those that actually attend) and they weren’t eating a chicken dinner from the nearest cheap imitation KFC.

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  37. Vonbedda says:

    Check out @BenJamminWalker’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/BenJamminWalker/status/1102888752710672384?s=09

    3600+ votes so far….80% want no deal. Add your 2 pence lads & lasses

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  38. theisland says:

    Anything on the bBC?

    https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/1096444/Brexit-news-update-Theresa-May-deal-national-security-European-Union-UK

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    • taffman says:

      theisland
      I hope that Tory voters heard that broadcast ?
      The nation voted for a Sovereign Brexit.

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  39. Lucy Pevensey says:

    😀 🤣

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  40. Yasser Dasmibehbi says:

    I have a very good friend. Phd, staunch lefty on every issue, apart from the fact that he doesn’t support groups like ANTIFA. He is a loyal member of the NSW Green party. We agree on nothing political.
    Surprisingly, a life long Dr Who fan from the start. Imagine my shock when last week he told me during a phone call that he’d stopped watching Dr Who!
    When I asked why, he said it was because it had become too politically correct for him! Could stand it no more!
    The amazing thing about the BBC is that they are now too thick and too zealous to realize what they are doing in shovelling their SJW nonsense out in spades.
    If they can brass off people like my very tolerant friend and not see what they’re doing it is a sure sign they are descending deep into the realms of idiocy.

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  41. Dover Sentry says:

    Knife Crime?

    Police officers should be issued with security wands that detect metal, as in airport checks.

    Should a knife be found, the wand could double as a Cattle-Prod for Summary Justice.

    This would keep the youth out of the Judicial System and save on the public purse.

    Furthermore, police officers would remain on the streets rather than be engaged with red-tape back at the police station.

    The concept may need a few tweaks…

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  42. pugnazious says:

    We all know this is true….Hamas and Fatah keep the Palestinians in poverty and a constant state of ‘siege’ as props for the cameras…they want the sympathy vote and exploit their own people to get it.

    Compare Israel to Palestine….what could Palestine have been if they hadn’t decided to spend their money on bombs and bullets instead of jobs and development?

    Oddly the BBC never asks that question and yet it is really central to the whole issue….Hamas/Fatah’s priority is to wipe out Israel…nothing else matters.

    Wonder when someone will start asking the right questions and demanding the Palestinian leadership start acting like a government instead of a terrorist organisation.

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    • G says:

      Pug,
      “Wonder when someone will start asking the right questions and demanding the Palestinian leadership start acting like a government instead of a terrorist organisation.”
      Ask Mr Corbyn, I’m sure he will have a close handle on the subject…..

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  43. Lucy Pevensey says:

    This chap here has re-written the Grauniad headline. 🤣

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    • pugnazious says:

      It’s not ‘chlorinated’ at all….a light, dilute wash of chlorine is used and that is itself washed off. Chlorine is in tap water and of course in the swimming pools that everyones’ kids go to and swallow in copious amounts.

      EU said it, and hormone injected beef, is safe [hormone injected transgender people are good to go though…grow some boobs, chop your dick off and pump yourself full of hormones and it’s OK but eat some chlorine washed chicken?!!?? Otherwise known by the BBC as ‘Novichick’]…the NFU on the BBC the other day said both were safe, their only issue was how the animals were raised…the quality of life issues.

      Still get idiot BBC presenters being ‘clever’ and telling us how awful it would be to have that ‘chlorinated chicken’ here in Britain.

      Yet again the BBC misleading people and fabricating the news to suit its anti-Brexit agenda.

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      • oldcrone says:

        But “chlorinated” chicken will go fine with all the bagged ready washed “chlorinated” salads we already all eat here in the UK.

        Usual selective journalism we all know and love !

        Quote of the year for me ….

        “I believe in free markets and consumer choice, but we must highly regulate against US hate food, in case consumers make the wrong choices. ”

        Is this person for real?

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      • Payne by name says:

        I recently had a Remainer telling me that an advantage of remaining was that we wouldn’t be flooded with all that cheap, unregulated food from America.

        Yeah right, because everyone that comes back from the USA always says how awful the food was!

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    • Payne by name says:

      So Halal meat is fine with animals feeling the pain of their death but chicken washed in chlorine is wrong?

      Brexit really does show what hypocritical douche bags the left and remainers truly are.

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  44. Beeb Brother says:

    RE: ‘Youth services.’

    I teach my children their values at home. I do not expect some mythical ‘youth worker’ to teach them not to murder – only in weird cults is raising children outsourced to people outside the family unit.

    Why would a hardened gangster want anything to do with ‘youth services’ anyway? I am yet to hear of it in any rap/grime tracks.

    I got wads of cash, and loads of drugs.
    And love to play ping pong at da yoof club.

    How do you become a ‘youth worker’? It is not exactly a recognised profession and you certainly do not need qualifications to become one. Seeing as the BBC expect these individuals to single-handedly solve the problem of violent crime one would expect them to be very highly trained indeed. I sure as hell could not do it. Minimum wage to go out at night and deal with these hoodrats? As well as being a horrible way to spend an evening it is probably extremely dangerous as well.

    “Put that knife away – Winston! We are about to play Scrabble! A triple word score will provide all the status and fulfilment you currently derive from your criminal lifestyle.”

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  45. pugnazious says:

    Speaking of anti-semitism, the anti-semitic, homophobic supporter of Islamist extremists, Sayeeda Warsi, is being promoted by the BBC, once again. The BBC is helpfully building her up as a respectable, credible, authoritative and principled stateswomen.

    Why would they do that? To give credibility, substance and authority to her claims of Institutional Islamophobia in the Tory Party despite the examples she gives as being mostly very trivial, not Islamophobic at all or from people on the fringes or not actually Tories….a very different scenario to Labour where the leadership’s words and actions have encouraged anti-semitism and many Jews think Corbyn himself as anti-Semitic. I note in BBC interviews it is Brexiteers Boris and Rees Mogg who get name checked for ‘islamophobia’…the BBC presenters raising the names.

    Ironically Warsi is boastng on her Twitter feed, it’s pinned to the top, of being the first Muslim female cabinet member….at the same time as she is complaining of Islamophobia in the Tory Party…which made her Chair and gave her numerous jobs precisely because she is Muslim…she can complain of tokenism maybe but not Islamophobia.

    The BBC is helpfully giving her a loud platform to launch her blitz against the Tories…a very bitter woman who was sidelined and now has to try and get back into the limelight using the surefire tactic of using the ‘race-card’ knowing the BBC et al will be there to help out….of course Erdogan’s words come to mind when you see what Warsi says and does….‘Democracy is a bus that we ride until we reach our destination’…now she is basically out of the Tory Party [note the support she gets from the 3 Soubrettes] her true aims start surfacing….and they all revolve around furthering the interests of Islam in this country….

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/w3cswsk3

    Britain’s first Muslim woman in government
    Witness History

    ‘Sayeeda Warsi made history when she was appointed to the Conservative and Liberal Democrat coalition government’s Cabinet in May 2010, and was also made Conservative party co-chair. The daughter of working-class Pakistani immigrants, she walked up Downing Street for her first Cabinet meeting dressed in a traditional South Asian salwar-kameez; it was a landmark moment in British politics. Sayeeda Warsi talks to Farhana Haider about her journey into government and about Islamophobia in politics.’

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    • StewGreen says:

      Warsi has never been elected to anything
      ..maybe milk monitor

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      • Beeb Brother says:

        She would even mess that up: just give milk to her pals and ignore everyone else.

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    • tarien says:

      How and why was this woman made a Dame? Contributed absolutely nothing of any consequence to this Nation-she is a Muslim and as such follows the teachings of Islam, therefore is alien to this nations culture.
      Once again the Media headed by the BBC are using with great certainty the issue of Multiculturalism to avoid having to say what Trevor Phillips stated recently- that the rise in gang knifing and violence is primarily a black problem.

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  46. JamesG says:

    We keep hearing that young people need to feel as if “they have a stake in society” in order to prevent knife crime. Why on earth does anyone need a reason not to stab someone?

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    • StewGreen says:

      FFS don’t start giving young people great big stakes
      ..they do enough damage with little knives already

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    • Richard Pinder says:

      The BBC could recruit young people as Security Guards for the “British Broadcasting Corporation Field Army (BBCFA)”, Aunties Field Army or Antifa as its better known. Members of Antifa are probably trained by left-wing BBC security officers on BBC property, the uniform being black shirts with balaclava. But with white skin around the eyes, I would imagine that BBC Antifa Officers are recruited from the National Union of Journalists, not from the young black people with knives community.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      I have felt extremely disillusioned at times – like most people. I thought about maybe joining a gym, changing jobs or perhaps getting into cooking. I never considered stabbing people to death as a route out of my disenchantment – maybe that is the vile ‘little Englander’ in me talking.

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  47. AneaterArris says:

    Worth watching Drillmaster Dipshit on Newsnight. A complete and utter imbecile in a balaclava.
    The BBC presumably paid this prat – not exactly a massive rap star with almost no Twitter followers. They sent him a tape of PMQs for his valuable insights for a five way discussion. A Youth Worker. Christ almighty.
    Stella Creasy called him ‘Drilly’. His picture’s on Twitter, not sure how to post from there but it’s well worth a look.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Aneater
      You leave the lovely fragrant Stella alone . She’s my lovely local MP …, a proper aristo socialist and 9/1 to be the next labour leader – if she could get rid of her nasty big sista – cooper/balls . …smiley thing

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  48. Dover Sentry says:

    BBC Online News:

    “”Knife crime: Excluded pupils ‘sucked into criminality’ “”

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-47470502

    Not a black face in sight. All white and carefully chosen. That’s exclusion for you.

    The image on the home page shows a posed white hoodie with a knife.

    What is the BBC hoping to achieve with this anti-white racism?

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  49. Annunaki says:

    Deja vu same yeterday they never learn :

    6 March:
    At 6am the front page had a white hand holding a knife next to the story title, and I have sent an official complaint regarding the FACT that the vast majority of knife crime is not committed by white males, the front page picture has since been changed.
    I also asked why, in an 85% white british population, we are assailed with picures of black people on their website falsely representing our demography… until it comes to crimes that are in fact, largely commited by black individuals and they then choose to use a picture of a white person
    I consider this perverse and twisted, if not downright racist

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      I think micro-twattishness like this actually really helps our cause as it shows how bad things are with the BBC. Screen grab and save them to add to our arsenal of evidence against them.

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      • Annunaki says:

        Yes forgot yesterday was advised to and have done if anyone can advise how to put pics on here …

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