Fed up with Brexit yet ? Yes ? Well that’s what the Far Left BBC and politicians want . Then they can carry on with their career plans and expenses claims .
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Start the Week Open Thread 4 March 2019
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Thanks for the chuckle Jeff. That refers to his comment
on the previous page
Jeremy Corbyn egged: Man charged over Finsbury mosque attack.
John Murphy, 31, from Barnet, has been charged with assault by beating, the Metropolitan Police said.
Does that mean he beat the egg before he threw it?
I’ll get my coat.
TT,
Not, “….a man from Barnet, has been charged……”? Why should the reporting be different from when its a Roper?
G,
So true. The BBC pretends to be against discrimination but they themselves discriminate continually based on religion, race and gender.
There are no limits to their hypocrisy.
any good content creators out there?
was wondering if WE can clip all videos of the MP’s making the Statement THIS IS FINAL VOTE etc or LEAVE MEANS LEAVE. including pictures of tweets.
Then just send it out on as many social media and media platforms possible. put a bigger spotlight on these TREASONOUS MP’S
The 3 minute speech of Soubry in the House on twitter over the weekend announcing her loyalty to the outcome of the referendum result was good for a laugh .
What’s wrong with these people on R4? Some disingenuous idiots talking about knife crime and austerity, then exclusion from schools of special needs children. So, they are trying to say that it is only children suffering from autism etc that are behind the epidemic.
Same on Sky where some misguided person is in the Seychelles trying to rescue coral, says he’s waiting for global action on mitigating man made Climate Change. Has he no common sense? The world is going to carry on in it’s own merry way regardless.
It matters not whether it is man made or not because it is unstoppable. Apart from destroying world economies and sending us back to the stone age, science has no other technological solution.
CM,
Don’t mention race. So utterly dishonest is our far left Marxist State Broadcaster…………..
From the NetWeather long term forecast for winter 2018/2019:
“For February, temperatures are about 70% likely to be below average (the percentage likelihood would be higher than that if it wasn’t the last month in the forecast period and thus traditionally the most prone to uncertainty as new atmospheric signals develop nearer the time).”
Whatever happened to your gobblygook, “new atmospheric signals” then?
Why bother?
Excellent news – the AG has abandoned trying to get the backstop thing legally limited . One step further to a full brexit as voted for .
25 days to go
abandoned
never tried
never intended to try
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/av/uk-47442943/the-women-too-scared-of-climate-change-to-have-children
the BBC’s work is done
these womens children will be replaced by ropers having 10 kids each
How sad. Darwinian theory in action…they are just making natural selection very easy! How thick and self posturing can you be, to think that you, amongst billions, are going to make a difference. How about thinking that your offspring might b the ones to make a difference…create an amazing invention, or be a great leader, like Theresa May!!
FFS they even spent your licence money on a flash Twitter advert version
You won’t see this on the BBC
BTW, ‘the beauty’ doesn’t allow comments on their propaganda aka ‘fake news’ articles..
https://twitter.com/MarkRocon/status/1102572070066708482
story dated 5 August 2017
so that was the old DM ..not the New Shouty Guardian-Lite version
Fake News!
Everyone knows Elon Musk makes them appear out of thin air with but a wave of his hand.
Radio4 today is mostly the usual pet SJW issues and special friends
There’s Meera Syal’s drama on a couple of times, a daily documentary presented by a Labour MP, Alexi Sayle
Asking Romanian workers if they are concerned about Brexit, The drama serial about Muslim slave traders
Food prog is about cannabis
Then Evening schedule
8pm The stories of 3 people DEPORTED to Nigeria
8:30pm PR for the Labour Party idea of Citizens Assemblies
9pm Toxic Masculinity (that’s OK if it challenges the stereotype ‘men=bad’)
Stew – thanks – gave up looking yonks ago . Sadly I caught a bit of Sarah montague – whose real name is Lady Brooke -chatting to some quango dweller about why feral black yoof use knives . Sounded like Wimmins hour . Clueless .
Make Grayling the knife czar – that will do it .
Fed, why?
We have Chief Superintendents, Police & Crime Commissioners and in many cities/regions directly Elected Mayors.
Why cannot they do their jobs properly?
It is their responsibility, not for the taxpayer to have to finance yet another Quango.
Can never have enough chiefs .
Seriously – the police level in London is back down to the level of the early 80s but the population is up by an extra 2 million – @ 20% and its a 24 hour city now plus the internet .
Nowhere near enough effective coppers . It should be about 35 to 40 thousand . Pay for it out of the shameful overseas aid budget .
Oh yeah and abolish crime commissioners – waste of money .
Agree on that last point. Make the Home Sec work harder in controlling the various forces in E&W.
Funny old world….WATO, and all credit to it for doing so, was discussing the Democrats’ fear of being labelled anti-Semitic, ending up as the Labour Party has. Why might they have this fear? Curiously coincides with the appointment of two Muslim congresswomen who are very vocal about Israel and the ‘Jewish Lobby’. Apparently there has never been this problem before and it comes from no-one else within the Party.
Curious no?
Another curiousity, not unconnected is how fast the police move to arrest and charge the man who egged Corbyn. All praise to the police for their rapid action cracking down on this eggregious act…however when will they be arresting the man who has throughout his career vocally supported terrorists and even now has just refused to back a plan to make a terrorist group illegal in Britain….not to mention his utter failure to deal with anti-Semitism within the party.
Maybe a referral to Prevent might be in order. Not a bad idea….the Islamist Warsi first though.
I’m thinking of enyoke ing a ban on any further egg puns in relation to Comrade Corbyn – who has been described as a poacher cum gamekeeper .
But i won’t
eggcellent
No vegan outrage yet ? there is still time for their usual rants
FFS again, does this tirade of cr@p ever stop ?
T-shirt depicting a black hand rising from water is removed from online stores by German fashion firm after critics said it resembled a drowning migrant
Zalando was slammed by social media users for promoting the article of clothing
It was designed to represent rising sea levels caused by global warming
But online critics said the drawing resembled a drowning migrant
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6769351/T-shirt-depicting-black-hand-rising-water-removed-online-stores-German-fashion-firm.html
How on earth can anyone say that’s a migrants hand…that’s just stupid.
It won’t be seen as stupid though, it will be villafied and the creator will be labelled with the usual
For the Doreen Tipton fans. Its Doreen against the zombies
Isn’t she brilliant?!
I’ve got a strong feeling we won’t be seeing her any time soon on the Beeb.
Sadly…
Nihal’s guests on R5 live today:
1. Two women from BirthStrike, an organisation so scared about climate change they are proposing a voluntary ban on making babies until the planet no longer faces global extinction
2. #metoo actress Rose McGowan talking about her book Brave (“One of the greatest tricks that the patriarchy plays on women is to deliberately destabilize them, then use their instability as a reason to disbelieve them”)
3. Actor Youssef Kerkour from Home, a new CH4 sitcom about a Syrian refugee stowaway who ends up living with a family in Surrey (the focus of the comedy is on tolerance and empathy according to the writer)
Homogeneity is the new diversity.
4. Return of “Love thy neighbour” sitcom ? ……tumbleweed moment
5. Mind Your Language 2019 reboot, set in a Whitechapel Madrasa (casting for the French au pair still to be confirmed)
French au pair will have a 5 o clock shadow and size 12 feet
I’d be ideal then
BBC staff to be trained to be biased in the “correct way” and not even aware of it ?
Bosses said the aim was to “tackle the potential for the small amounts of this (bias)* that may exist in any organisation”
* they couldn’t even say the word !
StewGreen,
BBC staff are starting to undergo “unconscious bias” training?
I like this tweet:
Does that mean they have already passed the ‘conscious bias’ module successfully?
SG,
I don’t know why the BBC staff have not been instructed to bow five times a day in reverence to the statue in their lobby……..
Huddersfield to have a PUBLIC meeting about GRoomNRape gangs
..no PRIVATE actually, councillors and staff, no press
Criticism comes from the Conservatives
https://www.thetelegraphandargus.co.uk/news/17463739
Batten tweeted this
Surely there must be more context
https://newspunch.com/finnish-court-sex-children/
A culture defence is becoming more widespread as it appears to be more successful
StewGreen, G.W.F.,
“Batten tweeted this. Surely there must be more context
Context:
“NewsPunch is a Los Angeles-based fake news website that frequently spreads conspiracy theories and political misinformation mixed in with real news stories.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NewsPunch
Juusuf Muhamed Abbudin was convicted of “aggravated sexual abuse” because according to Finnish Law it wasn’t classed as “aggravated rape”. There was no “culture defence”.
This from “NewsPunch”…
**Finland’s Supreme Court has ruled that sex with children as young as 10 is not ‘rape’ if you come from a culture where sexual relations between adults and kids is ‘normal’.**
…Is an absolute lie. Completely false and entirely made-up by “NewsPunch”.
This image is currently on the front page of NewsPunch – the website Gerard Batten is promoting:
https://cdn.newspunch.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/putin-v-soros-678×381.jpg
I won’t give you a tick because you are essentially a nuisance. However, I applaud you for that correction.
Maxi rushes in to challenge the claim 2 hours AFTER Loobyloo had checked and found no evidence to support it.
That is scary. I would like to share it on my fb page, but I’m afraid that I will be lambasted as a ‘far-right’ extremist.
Can’t find any other source which backs up the claim:
‘sex with children as young as 10 is not ‘rape’ if you come from a culture where sexual relations between adults and kids is ‘normal’’
– the argument is more to do with whether you are able to give consent at that age?? still hard to believe that is under discussion.
Wonder where the feminist outrage bus is?
Saturday’s Yorkshire Post has a page on MPs getting threats
obligatory photo of JoCox and her memorial and lionising article about her
..article only mentions Labour MPs, except for a cursory mention of Andrea Jenkynd at the end
..So I guess a cutNpaste job out of Labour PR
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47440487
“A knife crime tsar must be appointed by government in order to “get a grip” on the rise in youth violence, a former Metropolitan Police commissioner says.”
How about sacking those who have failed us before creating another position? Might focus minds a little better.
Oldsp. When I was growing up, there was no ‘youth knife crime’. So, what’s changed?
Ah well, interesting topic for a doctoral dissertation.
Then again, a short paragraph could say it all. But you won’t be hearing it from the beeb…
Fake
A load of work has been done on this – including by me when studying criminology at masters level . Police numbers matter – particularly with big populations rapidly expanding in places like Londonistan .
But decades of loosening discipline on children also adds to the mix
Personally I’m still surprised that the number of gun incidents hasn’t gone up as well but I suppose they are a bit more expensive and less convenient to get than a blade .
The BBC and MSM are interested in this today but tomorrow it will be something else but the killings will go on . Average homicide about 1 every 3 days in the capital. I’m glad I’m not a kid in Londonistan now
I am sure the gang culture in which knife crime thrives could be curtailed by the return of the Krays, or someone like them.
At least the Krays were not hindered by fears of being called racist or Islamophobic.
The current one is a bit busy doing Desert Island disk and say how hard it is for Wimmin yawn to do much about the police force she’s in charge of – but it is diverse – which must be comforting for victims families .
This morning we heard from a police officer that the main cause of the rise in knife crime was a rapid growth in drug crime, a leap in the use of drugs especially by students that ld to more drug gangs and that the police were distracted by having to deal with other ‘priorities’ such as mental health issues.
So…immigrant drug gangs running wild across our nation because the BBC et al oppose a crackdown on uncontrolled immigration, rampant drug use because the BBC et al encourage it and promote legalisation of the ‘harmless’ stuff, and the police are too busy dealing with twitter cirminals due to the BBC et al’s outrage about ‘hate crime’ and too busy looking after people with mental health issues because the BBC tells them it is a priority.
BBC helped create the knife crime epidemic….though they do have their own explanation…the real cause, R4 tells us, is youths being expelled from school, being sent to Pupil Referral Units and picking up bad habits in the PRUs….no…really….oh…and of course cuts to police funding.
No mystery why the kids get involved…either by coercion and threats or by waving £50 in their face to deliver a packet…..what looks like easy money and street cred or a job flipping burgers…what’s it going to be?
Problem is obvious, solution not so obvious….and not sure 20,000 more coppers will stop that.
Pug- once the police become ineffective and lose public confidence there’s no going back . The hate crime nonsense is a distraction and there is a fear of confronting baddies because of health and safety and a cautious culture which seems to have grown as police numbers have fallen
The PM was on TV lying about the lack of correlation between youth killings and the number of coppers on the street. Not the party of law and order any more . None is .
pug,
Todays police officers aren’t real coppers (ex-military who can handle themselves) they are mere “Social workers”.
In my day, we often regarded ourselves as “street cleaners”, or “rubbish collectors”, which was an apt description.
https://www.campaignlive.co.uk/article/mayo-scala-its-exciting-i-dont-say-im-getting-paid/1577652?
Or via what convoluted means.
10.45pm ITV Brexit Online Uncovered until 11:50pm
Will they tackle the way Labour/Lib groups have hijacked all our main formerly neutral charities and even Facebook groups
… I guess not
Isn’t the Follow Back Pro-European FBPE
basically about being a non-inclusive group that throws hate at others ?
https://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/910349/Brexit-news-FBPE-meaning-Twitter-Leave-Remain-second-EU-referendum
Tonight is the start of shorter BBC News
finishing National+Local at 10:35pm
Always interested in the various market rate careers by those snapped up by those cut loose from the BBC teat.
Danny, Gavin… and…
https://tradingaswdr.blogspot.com/2019/03/floating.html?
I like a nifty turn of phrase:
“Like a prosecco cork bobbing in an ocean of plastic micro-particles, Peter Horrocks has re-surfaced into employment”
I must make a not to steer well clear of The Mclean partnership and most certainly whatever useless NGO they have suckered.
Scala Radio the new classical station on digital started today
Yes it seems ok but they’ll have a bit of tokenist multicultural tedium soon enough …
7:30pm Inside Out ..any SJW stuff
– East Mids : circumcision’s silent few – the men who say the procedure ruined their lives and the faith leaders who insist it’s an important moment in a man’s life.
Plus Crossing Divides: 35 years on from the miners’ strike, two former pit men try to heal deep wounds from the bitter dispute
– Yorks : – People in Harehills, Leeds tell is about their M faith
– West Mids : History “Asian families expelled from Uganda who have made the Midlands their home.
Thrown out of the country that was their home, they arrived with little more than the clothes they stood up in.
Ayo discovers how a spirit of enterprise has brought rewards for them and the region as a whole.”
West : Somali Muslim Mums take on the unhealthy salty food of the takeaways
+ Honda closure
harehills one
Muslim councillor talks about banning new alcohol shops
Northern Ireland man “Sure there has been a big rise in hate crime since Brexit”
(no one with Yorkshire ancestors has been interviewed .. hang on the plant flowers man was on for 20 seconds)
Do the cooking Somali mothers look slim ?
…nope they are a bit hefty
..all the kids featured are non-white
..The food features cardamon leaves (disgusting)
In the shot they are in a Bristol school
making the “No More take-aways” sign
Two trainee RN gunnery officers?
Southeast : We visit Lewes FC to debate equality for women footballers
Northwest : Female drag queens
London : whether councils need more powers to deport East European rough sleepers.
– As violence hits the headlines again, Simon Glass asks if Millwall FC can ever shake off its notorious reputation.
East Mids : Leicester : Asian families expelled from Uganda who have made the Midlands their home.
Bombardier Nick painting the target.
Gunner K lays down cover.
In Bill we trust (possibly).
He was one of the 22 Conservative MPs who voted against the Cooper amendment on 27 Feb (instead of abstaining).
Are we being fed a lie and being softened up for the Brexit betrayal?
BBC is happily promoting this astounding ‘new’ finding…
‘Crossing Divides: Has the UK changed its mind on immigration?
Almost half the people in the UK believe immigration has been positive for the country, a poll for the BBC’s Crossing Divides season suggests.
Just over a quarter of nearly 1,500 people who took the Ipsos-Mori online survey felt it had a negative impact.
The findings are in line with other surveys suggesting Britain has changed from being generally negative about immigration before the Brexit vote.
In 2011, 64% of Britons told Ipsos-Mori immigration had been bad for the UK.’
Why is this news exactly? That’s of course if you believe it anyway. Last May the same Professor said the same thing….There’s a remarkable change in the air – our hostility to migrants is on the retreat …but also came out with the obvious conclusion from this data that the BBC doesn’t seem to want to highlight….
‘The conventional wisdom in many liberal circles holds that Britain has turned in on itself, encouraged by a Leave victory that has legitimated chauvinism and xenophobia. Yet the public opinion evidence consistently shows the opposite – the British are more open to migration than ever, a trend that Brexit has encouraged, not reversed.’
Last year the Professor said….
‘For more than 15 years, between a quarter and a half of poll respondents have spontaneously named immigration as among their biggest political concerns. Yet since Brexit, complaints to pollsters about immigration have collapsed. More than 40% of respondents in Ipsos Mori polls named it as a key issue in the run-up to Brexit. That figure has slumped since and now stands at under 20%, a 15-year low.’
So in fact the recent data actually shows negative attitudes towards immigration have risen from 20% to 25%.
I doubt anyone has changed their opinion about migration…they always thought some migration, controlled, was good, it depends on what sort of migrant you get…highly skilled, prepared to join in British culture or unskilled and not prepared to iintegrate and in fact more likely to attack British culture.
Just what was the question and who was being asked?…It’s alright saying you asked ‘British’ citizens but which ‘British’ citizens…..I suspect many are as British as those ‘Germans’ who did all that sexual assaulting in Cologne.
Most people are concerned about the actual numbers and that concern is there whatever the skill level but all the more so if low paid, low skilled migrants are swamping the system and overwhelming and displacing British people, culture and society, forcing them from their homes, jobs and land.
We’re patronised and insulted as the BBC reports we are being educated out of our ignorant prejudices..
‘Prof Ford suggested the political environment could be a contributory factor, with opponents of Brexit and US President Donald Trump championing the benefits of inward migration.’
The BBC’s Mark Easton, mass migration, open borders champion, continues this theme…
‘The national debate on immigration during elections and the Brexit referendum may have focused people’s minds on the social, practical and economic trade-offs involved in cutting migrant numbers, resulting in a more nuanced response to the issue.’
Ah yes, now we get it….no-one knew that cutting migration would have some consequences…both good and bad.
I really doubt the truth of this claim last year…
‘More British people also think of migration as enriching British culture now, after 20 years of unprecedented migration inflows, than felt this way in the early 2000s, when the current wave of migration was just beginning.’
And do we really believe that Leave voters have changed their minds on controlling migration? Even Prof. Ford has doubts about his own work….
‘This collapse in concern about migration is puzzling, as there have been no major changes in migration policy since Brexit, and though migration levels have fallen, the decline has been modest. ‘
Let’s remember this was a poll for the BBC…and all BBC polls tend to find exactly what the BBC wants them to find…by sheer coincidence.
Can’t help thinking it’s all bollocks due to wishful thinking and an interpretation of data that is shaped by a particular mindset helped by questions designed to elicit the desired answer.
The questions and the framing of the narrative shifts and changes…from do they think immigration is positive [what does that mean exactly? Which migrants, how much migration and what are these benefits…I might be positive about a doctor coming here and say nice things about ethnic food but it doesn’t mean I want to open the borders.] to whether migration is the most important issue…completely different question but which gets conflated here in the poll write-up…
‘The UK leads the world in being most positive about the impact of immigration. Globally, around a quarter (24%) think that immigration has had a positive impact on their country. This aligns with findings from previous Ipsos MORI research, which shows that concern about immigration has been declining since the EU Referendum in 2016. Concern peaked in September 2015, with over half (56%) identifying immigration as the most important issue facing Britain, whereas now it is nearer one in five (19%).’
They might be positive about immigration but still have concerns and think it is the most important issue.
And who was questioned? Are they the same people as in previous polls….no of course not…so the poll is entirely unreliable and useless….and very small in nature….A grand total of 1490 people…
‘ In the United Kingdom interviews were boosted in nations to give 206 in Scotland, 202 in Wales, 208 in Northern Ireland. In England 874 were conducted.’
Not a coincidence this ‘new’ poll has just been released at this time…presumably meant to soften us up for a Brexit betrayal and the news that we are still in the single market, still in a customs union and still subject therefore to freedom of movement….in other words still in the EU.
Wonder what messages have been flying between the government and the BBC? A bit of coordination going on?
If you’re suspicious of who was polled you might be right to be..how many were actually of migrant heritage?….here’s what the good Prof. says about the changing demographics here and its influence on democracy…‘there are some demographic trends that will influence opinion in future.’….No coincidence that as migration booms pro-migration attitudes increase….migrants will nearly always vote to allow more migration….
Demographic trends will pull British public opinion in a pro-European direction
In this blog, Rob Ford and Maria Sobolewska (University of Manchester) explain that while no one can predict for certain how the electorate will look in coming years, there are some demographic trends that will influence opinion in future. These changes will tend to pull British public opinion in a pro-European direction, and should be sufficient to produce a majority of 52%-48% for ‘Remain’ in 2021, and 54%-46% by 2026…. All the Leave-leaning groups – school leavers, white- and British-born voters, and those who grew up before Britain joined the EU – are shrinking over time. Simultaneously, all the Remain-leaning groups – graduates, ethnic minorities and migrants, and the younger cohorts who came of age after the Maastricht agreement – are growing.
“See our new survey, it got exactly the results we Guardian-readers wanted
.. it’s quite a surprise isn’t it ?”
Hmm extraordinary claim needs extraordinary evidence
.. we’ll see if the claim stands the test of time
“Q1 Do you really support immigration
… or are you a racist ? “
Apparently next Ipsos Mori poll is asking if none guardian readers still beat their wives.
What’s Migration Watch UK say ? they tweeted
\\The BBC reports that 48% of people think immigration has been positive for the UK. Up from 19% in 2011
But these findings miss the point
#1 The issue is not with immigration as an abstract concept.
It can be beneficial, but only at sensible levels and when properly controlled.
#2 Don’t forget that a large majority (73% according to Deltapoll in 2018) want to see a significant cut in immigration levels.
#3 Other polling (e.g. by Ipsos MORI, 2018) suggests a significant portion of those who have become more positive about immigration did so because numbers have already fallen since the Brexit vote, or because they expect Brexit to lead to a reduction going forward.
#4 Another Ipsos poll conducted by the BBC last year found that half of respondents in the UK cited differences between immigrants and people born in the country as the number one source of tension
PDF link https://t.co/6kRYrO5F2B?amp=1 ../
All goes to show the systematic indoctrination by all the agencies of the state is working nicely.
Hug a hoodie?
Is it legal to dress a baby in pink?
Pretty sure I’d find that rather distracting if I was in his class. And why the heck is this considered news? I no wait, just checked the photo again…
That’s not new they’ve been accused before
February 16, 2016 Donna Laframboise summed up Survival International’s case against WWF
… Note BBC seem once again to be playing a trick
“look we are only quoting Buzzfeed”
https://nofrakkingconsensus.com/2016/02/16/the-wwf-thugs-guns-against-pygmies/
With luck, including something that might have been said.
six parts of what 20 mins to advance fake news
top top stuff so called bbc
when even the demorats are dropping the russian line due to embarrassment the bbc just keeps on
On BBC 4 now
“ A very British history”
“Documentary” about “Ugandan Asians” being expelled in 1972.
As told by an Asian.
I wonder if it will be at all biased.
I wonder if Idi Amin knew something we didn’t.
Brings back memories of a classic Giles cartoon of the murderous buffoon Amin being carried shoulder high, I think by the Queens Guard for deportation. As evil a butcher as he was I think he still got a fairer shake of the media stick than Trump.
Thats the one, gentle British humour with no malice, but makes the point nonetheless. Probably be had up for multiple hate crime today.
Thanks Jim.
I watched the Very British History, and it was very biased in reporting how the UA were all made very welcome. I was in my early 20’s at that time, and I remember a very different scenario. It failed to show how much opposition there was by the public. And I almost choked on my tea when the Mayor of Leicester was interviewed, and ‘couldn’t remember’ any issues when his city was flooded with the migrants.
The Asian interviewer’s parents clearly live in a good house in Lincolnshire, and it was telling that the mother had to be shown how to use a cooker or make a fire by her new neighbours when they arrived back in the 70’s – because back in Uganda she had black Africans as servants to do her bidding, and didn’t she cry about it on camera ! The grandmother who arrived in the UK at the same time, and now clearly in her 80’s still cannot speak any English – wonder what she has cost in interpreters over the years, and not much integration there I thought.
I hope the programme got good viewing figures, because this generation probably have no idea about that episode in Africa’s history. Idi Amin clearly wanted the Asians gone as they were the business people subjugating the indigenious Africans as their servants. Even Yasmin Alibaba Brown had the decency to admit that the UA’s were more racist than anything they had to endure in this country – which, she claimed she has to fight and endure EVERY DAY !!
Used to live next door to a family of expelled Ugandan Indians. Hard working, family oriented Hindus. Great neighbours.
Ok not BBC but Pancake day tomorrow!
Sainsbury’s advert reminding us to not forget to buy the components for this feast shows a Sikh gentleman gaily tossing pancakes.
I wonder what he is giving up for Lent?
Attempt at link here:
https://reporting.sainsburys-online.com/images/190304_ys/1.gif
Tried to insert actual pictures but fail (duh!)
Thanks JimS
Not enough popcorn.
Girls got their back.
When you challenge the worldview on a MetroLib snowflake they get TRIGGERED with cognitive dissonance
@KateHoeyMP
Could @BBCNews stop calling MP’s elected on a manifesto to honour the result of the referendum ‘hardliners’
@RobBurl
@JuliaHB1 tweeted
Indeed. MPs who simply want to honour the 2016 referendum result
.. are routinely referred to as “hardliners”, “extremists” or “die hards”.
A more accurate word would be “democrats”.
SkAnglia tweeted
@BethRigby @adamboultonSKY @BBCNewsnight @BBCNews
.. time for you to respect the people who pay your wages.
Why not tell the truth, the hardliners & extremists are the Europhils,
They are the ones lying, schemining & blackmailing in an attempt to overturn a democratic vote.
@adamboultonSKY
This is pathetic rubbish. Our job is to report accurately for the 52% the 48% and the non-voters.
*Shameful* that JHB is stirring it up.
@JuliaHB1 tweeted
“Shameful” that I expect supposedly impartial TV presenters and reporters on BBC (& Sky)
not to use deliberately loaded & negative terms about Brexiteers?
Er, okaaaaaay
“Adam Boulton”
Pass.
Just try in a corridor.
Adam Boulton has no integrity so he’ll be safe from JH-B.
“Knife crime: ‘No single solution’ says Sajid Javid”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47440487
No solution ?
How did our grandparents generation deal with murder by stabbing over 60 years ago? They would murder once – but never again!
The bleeding heart liberal social workers, psychologists, educationalists and the rest of the ‘ologists’ with no experience of life have no clue or answer. The chickens have come home to roost, ‘spare the rod and spoil the child’ .
The whole debacle is presided over by what must be the the worse Tory government in the history of Great Britain.
Jon, Katty, Anthony And Nick will need to work extra hard to find something else.
I’m not a violent man, but boy, if there was one face in the world you could slap, it would have to be Trudeau’s.
maybe they could suggest the russians did it
Let’s hope it’s the end of the sanctimonious creep and he can go back to what he’s good at: gazing lovingly into a mirror.
I’ve just personally witnessed a complete waste of NHS funds, you know, the constantly underfunded and cracking at the seams NHS.
My husband is a taxi driver and the firm he works for has a contract with our local NHS trust. He’s just done a account job for his firm taking medication from one hospital to another one. Now you would think that it may be a box of various tablets or supplies, it was one small box of tablets. Easy enough for a member of staff going off duty to take on their journey home or for them to have staff to take from hospital to hospital even at night. My husband took me along for the journey and I couldn’t believe my eyes when I saw it.
Now, the mileage was logged by my husband and the firm he works for will invoice the trust at the end of the month, when my husband will be paid for the job. I should add, it’s not the first time he has done jobs like this, even taking and collecting blood samples.
Good for my husband as he will get a decent rate for doing it and it’s easy really, but what a absolute waste of what is public money.
how much does an interpreter cost nowadays
was in to get plastered 2 weeks ago and a family of six sat there waiting for one, Not a word of english between them.
They must be adding so much to government revenue and paying so many pensions
Should have visa revoked have to pass english test now, unless one of those, as in Luton, bribed the test centre
Many of those working at Visas and Immigration are themselves invaders, and the whole service is corrupt and dysfunctional.
It seems to mirror the attitude of the BBC staff to using taxis. Remind me how each organisation is funded?
you couldnt make it it up
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/04/technology/google-gender-pay-gap.html
and now the so called bbc shills for another “aid worker”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-47420105
anyone else round here know how to use an ak47
It was a different time.
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2005/mar/24/broadcasting.bbc
Apparently.
So much bbc…
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The UK has one of the most successful HPV immunisation programmes in the world, but girls from BAME backgrounds are less likely to receive the vaccine in school than their white counterparts.
We investigate why this is the case.
https://bbc.in/2TuJfkn
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Clearly an area the bbc would look into.
The BBC is so concerned about Shamima Begum, they need to give constant update… in an article titled…
“Shamima Begum: What was life like for the IS couple in Syria?”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47435039
Yet we never see an article titled:
“Rotherham: “What was life like for the 1400 children subjected to Islamic gang rape?”
I want to hear the stories of every one on the 1400 children subjected to Islamic gang rape, and i want everyone else in the world to read about that as well… so we all know about this sick depraved “religion”.
Lets hear the stories of people who were involved and get a true understanding of the extent of this to everyone:
Rotherham has a population of 8000 Muslims, of these 50% are women and 30% are children, so there are about 2,800 muslim Men.
Yet the report described 1,400 child gang rape victims. The Majority of court cases describe victims being raped hundreds of times in total.
If just 10% of victims were raped 100 times, this would already be 14,000 rapes, That means 5 rapes per adult Muslim male on average.
The Jay report, also describes at least 4 perpetrators for every victim, so 1,400 victims means 5600 perpetrators, so the average Muslim male has multiple victims.
According to police there are currently 420 Adult Muslim Males under investigation for serial gang child rape of infidel children. That is fully 15% of the Adult Male Muslim population in that town.
Government report:
Click to access independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham.pdf
NUmbers under active investigation:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6332387/More-420-suspects-investigated-100m-Rotherham-grooming-inquiry.html
55 perpetrators, 7 victims, that’s 8 perpetrators per victim:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8195535/arrest-fifty-five-men-west-yorkshire/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-sex-abuse-gangs-could-5114029
with a million victims and 8 perpetrators per victim, we are looking at 8 million perpetrators… even if the numbers were 10% of this, that would mean 800,000 perpetrators, which would mean half of all Muslim men are involved in infidel child gang rape.
jip,
Horrific stats. This is what invading armies so often do – rape the target population. Even more horrific is the fact that children are the victims.
And the BBC’s ‘reporting’ on the rape/invasion? I guess they silently approve.
Silently approve?
There was once a campervan in the underground car park.
Guest Who,
Yes, but they were silent about it.
TrueToo:
I realized these numbers while sat in a cheap hotel room in South Carolina watching the Manchester child massacre unfold, it’s one of those moments i will remember till i die.
I’d read there was up to a million victims, but hadn’t put it in to this context…. and it dawned as i sat on my bed that a million victims meant 10 million rapes…. and that we only have 1 or 2 million Muslim me in the country… so pretty much a majority were involved in child rape, or at least knew about it.
Then i started researching Islam, bought a koran and wot not, and saw how horrible it was. Then watching Tommy Robinson… i could not find any racist statements, he’s maybe mis-spoken a couple of times in 10 years and generalized to “all Muslims”… but thats just twice in 10 years, and in context even that wan’t particularly bad compared to the substance of his complaint.
The media is a tissue of lies… and the biggest cancer is the BBC.
I’m willing to change my mind as well on Islam, three years ago i had no opinion on Islam and assumed the best as most do. But no-one has been able to debunk theses statistics…. even if the number is just 10% of those reported… this must have been well known about in the Muslim community, yet there is not one single report of a Muslim reporting that to the police.
The BBC is downright evil for it’s under reporting and lies on this.
The BBC is so concerned about Shamima Begum, they need to give constant update… in an article titled…
“Shamima Begum: What was life like for the IS couple in Syria?”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-47435039
Yet we never see an article titled:
“Rotherham: “What was life like for the 1400 children subjected to Islamic gang rape?”
I want to hear the stories of every one on the 1400 children subjected to Islamic gang rape, and i want everyone else in the world to read about that as well… so we all know about this sick depraved “religion”.
Lets hear the stories of people who were involved and get a true understanding of the extent of this to everyone:
Rotherham has a population of 8000 Muslims, of these 50% are women and 30% are children, so there are about 2,800 muslim Men.
Yet the report described 1,400 child gang rape victims. The Majority of court cases describe victims being raped hundreds of times in total.
If just 10% of victims were raped 100 times, this would already be 14,000 rapes, That means 5 rapes per adult Muslim male on average.
The Jay report, also describes at least 4 perpetrators for every victim, so 1,400 victims means 5600 perpetrators, so the average Muslim male has multiple victims.
According to police there are currently 420 Adult Muslim Males under investigation for serial gang child rape of infidel children. That is fully 15% of the Adult Male Muslim population in that town.
Government report:
Click to access independent_inquiry_cse_in_rotherham.pdf
NUmbers under active investigation:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6332387/More-420-suspects-investigated-100m-Rotherham-grooming-inquiry.html
55 perpetrators, 7 victims, that’s 8 perpetrators per victim:
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/8195535/arrest-fifty-five-men-west-yorkshire/
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/child-sex-abuse-gangs-could-5114029
with a million victims and 8 perpetrators per victim, we are looking at 8 million perpetrators… even if the numbers were 10% of this, that would mean 800,000 perpetrators, which would mean half of all Muslim men are involved in infidel child gang rape.
W… what just happened?
The tall guy in that picture beating the child is the “burgeoning African middle class” that the racist David Lammy told us about when he was slagging off Stacy Dooley for being white.
Oh, and it’s OUR fault for driving electric cars. Everything, everywhere, is always whitie’s fault, according to such sanctimonious libtard virtue-signalling guilt-mongers.
That’s true Vlad, native Brits are responsible for every ill, but get no credit for inventing antibiotics, vaccines, fertilizers, electricity, trains, jet engines,… and the million other things, that means that every country and territory in the world has a better standard of living and life expectancy than the whole of history before the British Industrial Revolution. Never mind that the British empire was the first empire in history to abolish slavery and left infrastructure in place across the world.
Police don’t have enough money
Tosh !
You can police 85% of the population with basically ZERO money
It’s the other 10-15% that cost 97% of the police resources
.. I’ve seen it loads of times when someone comes back for their wallet/camera/phone ..and no one has touched it, it’s still on the table where they left it.
I appear to be watching TR live banging on Mike Stuchbery’s house
people are coming to shake TR’s hand
police are there
hope TR is OK
He is talking to police
You can see Mike thru window
TR own video
oldest comment is from 12:10am so I must have been watching live
It appeared live across a lot of feeds and Facebook as well
TR doostepped Mike , cos Mike was goading yesterday, appearing to say that it was him that sent the men and journos around to a house connected to TR., when TR was abroad
It’s wasn’t like but rather a livestream replay of what had just happened on Facebook
I can see people tweeting MS and telling him to open his door at 10:54pm so TR must have been there from about 10:50pm or a bit earlier
StewGreen,
So Tommy™ turns up after midnight at Mike Stuchbery’s house banging on the door and windows, for *no other reason* than Mike Stuchbery tweeted something Tommy™ didn’t like. The same intimidation tactics he has used against others several times before.
But your major concern is; “hope TR is OK”?
Seriously, Stew; what has lead you into this place?
StewGreen,
I watched about half of Tommy’s™ live stream. He repeatedly broadcasts Stuchbery’s home address and makes repeated threats against him (and others). It’s tough viewing, and completely f***ing disgusting.
Whatever anyone’s previous opinion might be about Tommy Robinson, no one can defend this.
I can
And me
me too
whats good for the goose …
If we’re to condemn TR does this standard also apply to the BBC?
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2015/05/18/the-unspeakable-bbc-parks-its-tanks-on-my-lawn/
Me too.
Maxi troll evidently missed the bit about this Mike coward’s involvement in threatening and intimidating Tommy’s wife and children.
Maxicony
TR is defending his family, as a normal person would do. I suppose the families you hang out with honour kill their daughters. Are you a crackhead Maxi, sell yourself for drugs to the big boys in the BBC , a bit of bondage, fisting like the pervert that has been trying to intimidate TR. Remember under a previous name you boasted of your 8 inches.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D02jwjJWsAAPzF_.jpg
Yes, Stuchbery, hosting “Brother Neuro” a racist nazi gobshite
Oh it’s like that is it Maxi ?
You need a woman and her children to explain it to you .
This is the man TR was trying to interview.
And in his home, picture from his FB site. (I assume Maxi took the photo of his friend).
“after midnight” No Maxi
Mike Stuck’s own tweet says 10:15pm
I did explain that first I thought the video was live
but then it turned out to be a live replay of what happened earlier.
The police interaction with TR was cordial..
They never said ‘oh it’s too late’
For Maxi to miss the context that Mike’s man had doxxed TRs house the day before (one he may own but doesn’t live at) is incredible
Mike’s team had both doxxed TR and goaded him on Sunday so for TR to reciprocate was not unexpected.
Bit of cosmic resonance…..Campbell was promoting, sorry debating, transgender athletes and whether they can compete as ‘women’. One caller sensibly suggested that as with the Paralympics for disabled athletes perhaps there should be a separate sports category for transgender women. Campbell immediately shot this down and said it was ‘ridiculous’. Not though is it? There’s a reason they’re called ‘transgender women’ and not ‘women’…because they are not just ‘women’. I can put a body-kit on my car, even put in a new engine, to make it look and go like a Porsche…but it will never be a Porsche.
Anyway, cosmic resonance….reported today…..
Britain Opens First Transgender Prison After Sex Attacks at Women’s Jails
‘Britain will open Europe’s first transgender prison wing this week, after sexual assaults at women’s jails by male inmates who ‘identified’ as female.
Three offenders who were born male but have since legally changed gender will be the first inmates housed at the new unit, which The Times reports will be situated at Downview prison in a building previously named after the Victorian-era feminist, Josephine Butler.’
And linked to this and the BBC’s curious world-view is their outrage on Sunday that ‘hardline, right-wing’ Christians should be asking for bible studies to be taught in US schools.
The BBC, on the other hand, has no problem with transgender propaganda being force-fed to very young and vulnerable children or any other LGBTQETC lifestyles being taught in school, so to speak. Why is it OK for some groups to propagate their views in schools but not for Christians to do the same?
The BBC’s other problem with these hardline, right-wing Christians is that they want to ‘protect the unborn child’…pretty controversial stuff huh? The BBC is of course very pro-women’s rights [except in sport obviously….see above] and the right to have an abortion on any grounds…their body, their life, their choice….aborting what is a perfectly healthy child because it doesn’t suit the woman’s lifestyle is OK with the BBC. Personally I think if they don’t want the child have it adopted not killed.
Anyway…all change, paradoxically, if the child maybe disabled, say with Down’s Syndrome…then the BBC is all against abortion pumping out numerous stories about mothers who have Down’s children and think it is all wonderful….which it maybe…not the issue here….the issue is BBC hypocrisy.
How is it OK, in BBC-Land, to abort a perfectly healthy child because it doesn’t fit in with your lifestyle at the moment and an outrage to abort a child with serious, life-limiting, health problems?
BBC, as always, picks and chooses its stance to suit its narrative rather than straight reporting or discussion.
Really do transgender people get in to trouble that would require a prison sentance?Dress all Male to female in pink prison suits no matter, those Female to Male dress in string vests and shorts and hiking boots. No I’m just sick of the utter incomprehensible mess this nations gets itself into time and time again.
Apparently some old pop singer has died – Keith Flint ???? Listening to the racket in the news bulletins, I’m glad that era passed me by. Now I know I’m getting old when I prefer Proud Mary, and Roy Orbison singing Dreams, being sung in the adverts !
coming in a barbecue advert soon…
any bets on what keith is cremated to the sound of
Al Qaeda chief’s wife, 49, wins human rights battle after claiming UK airport police breached her privacy by stopping her for questioning (and taxpayers will now foot her legal bills)
Sylvie Beghal, 49, was stopped at East Midlands Airport after flying to France
She was visiting Djamel Beghal, behind bars for plotting to blow up US embassy
But mother-of-three claimed she was stopped ‘without reasonable suspicion’
European court rules her right to respect for private and family life was violated
Her claims were rejected by the High Court and Supreme Court but the European Court of Human Rights eventually ruled in her favour.
The Home Office said it was disappointed by the ruling, which it has three months to challenge.
Tory MP Andrew Bridgen, whose constituency covers the airport, said: ‘It’s sickening. These people are big on human rights but not so much on their responsibilities.
‘We all have a duty to cooperate with the police with regards to terrorism and anyone who doesn’t want to is breaking the bond of loyalty to our country.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6770225/Al-Qaeda-chiefs-wife-49-wins-human-rights-battle.html
Hang her and her yooman rights.
EU ensures we are unable to deal with terrorist wives visiting terrorists in jail who refuse to co operate with police
A primary example of why we should leave and secure our own country ourselves
(and kick her off the cliffs of Dover )
“‘It’s great she can use the law to protect her own right to family life, but she has strong links with a convicted terrorist and Al Qaeda have not shown any regard to human rights in the past with their victims.’
According to court documents lodged at the ECHR, Mrs Beghal was stopped at the airport after visiting her husband with their children.
Officers said they wanted to talk to her to establish whether she might be ‘a person concerned in the commission, preparation or instigation of acts of terrorism’.
She refused to answer questions until a lawyer was present “
Algerian-born Beghal settled in France in 1987 and married in 1990. He became a French citizen which allowed the couple to move to Leicester seven years later.
Beghal was banned from the UK in 2009 after being jailed by the French for a plot to blow up the US embassy in Paris.
His wife is believed to have cost taxpayers more than a quarter of a million pounds in handouts since moving to the UK.
Once we are OUT of that monsterous controlling, supressive, subjugating comminist EU, the UK airport Police can question this evil chief wife all they want and throw her out of this country. I really do hope perhaps against hope that, Britain will grow some balls and protect the white indig peoples of this now, seemingly frightened nation, and return the pride we once so deservedly had. Traitorism has engulfed this nation promoted by the likes of the BBC and the all but communist media. Bring back Capital Punishment when necessary no matter the persons sex, colour, or religious following, bring back a form of National Service geared as much towards social works as apart from keeping the NS men and women fit and healthy, bring back pride amongst themselves, respect for society for their fellow human beings. Yes perhaps too much Sha’ngri-La, but once I knew a young man whose outlook on life was wretched, after two years National Service it built him back into a very decent hard working individual who succeded as an electrical engineer, it was the Army that gave him that, career opportunity.
Two women are left unable to walk as they are whipped under Sharia law after being caught with men in hotel raid in Indonesia
Six unmarried couples were arrested in a hotel raid in Banda Aceh, Sumatra
Unmarried sex is illegal under Aceh’s sharia law and they were flogged in public
Two couples caned for simply being in a room with member of the opposite sex
The others were handed 17-25 strokes for ‘intimate relations outside of marriage’
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6768553/Indonesias-Aceh-whips-unmarried-couples-hotel-raid.html
They’re all barbaric wherever the primitive medieval ideology has taken hold.
Coming to a town near you soon – probably already has.
Read between the lines
4 of the couples probably paid the bribe.
I was in Banda Aceh, shorty after the war ended.
I somehow gatecrashed a lodge party full of ex guerilla politicians.
Baroness Warsi on a programme on World Service whinging about people not trusting her coreligionists. Does she not think the gang rape of vulnerable children might have something to do with that?
Political correctness is another word for fake news which is what Trump is attacking. It is immune to reality as it is permanently fixed what can and cannot be said. How utterly absurd that Warsi can say this with a straight face and the BBC lap it up. We kind of frown on gang raping troubled children. To claim victimhood in the wake of such evil is fake news on stilts. Whilst the BBC remains so ultra PC they will always be fake. God bless Trump for having the courage to stand up to these tyrants.
Part of their hatred of Trump is that he is against political correctness and that spoils the party for them. They hide behind convenient fictions and make mega money, have high status etc without ever leaving the comfort blanket of lying about uncomfortable truths. Trump forces them to confront these harsh realities and how they hate him for it.
New Bri h ain, a Baroness with no class
In Cabinet she keeps making copious notes, clearly thinking of material for a book rather than the issues at hand.
She complains that someone referred to her as the enemy who cannot be trusted. She then publishes a book when she leaves Cabinet which stabs everyone in the back, thus totally proving their point! Can she not see how absurd she sounds?
Imagine how compromised the meetings must have been with her scribbling incessantly, every speaker knowing their ostensibly confidential words were being written down for a subsequent book the liberal media would drool over. It may well have massively compromised the smooth running of government. I would not say anything controversial with that snake watching me, and you must be controversial if you want to run a country well.
“Deeply concerned” was how Warsi greeted the recent appointment of the Commissioner for Counter Extremism, Sara Khan. When pressed, Warsi lets rip in a way that sounds almost personal.Khan is dismissed as a “Home Office construct” — and this from a former Conservative Cabinet minister.
Warsi is referring to a series of anti-Isis rallies in 2014 inspired by Khan’s anti-extremism organisation, Inspire. Aimed at helping British Muslim mothers protect their children from the toxic ideology of ISIS, ‘Making A Stand’ was a roadshow to which the Home Office provided logistical support — something Inspire openly acknowledge.
Why would Warsi oppose anyone who stood for human rights and female empowerment in the face of brutal theocratic extremism — with or without government assistance?
Should Khan now say “I am so sorry for running an anti-ISIS campaign?”.
As I say, it’s a puzzle.
More puzzling still is Warsi’s relationship to an organisation she admits has accommodated views that “although not illegal, are clearly illiberal.”
That organisation is Mend, Muslim Engagement and Development, the fastest growing and most active Muslim advocacy group in Britain today.
Mend insists it’s striving for a harmonious, integrated, cohesive, stable society. The Baroness says Mend “has the potential for real change” and has called for “broader and deeper engagement with British Muslim communities, both individuals and organisations.”
But the Home Office is wary of “engaging” with Mend and a web trawl shows why: multiple examples from its supporters of rampant antisemitism including nasty and idiotic conspiracy theories about Jews; vicious sectarianism against fellow Muslims like Khan who dare to challenge Mend’s opposition to the government’s anti-radicalisation programme Prevent,
https://www.thejc.com/news/news-features/puzzle-of-baroness-sayeeda-warsi-s-links-with-islamist-group-1.463152
The number one concern of the editors of the Trotskyist, Anarchist
editors, sub editors and researchers of the Londonistan programme
is if the Metropolitan Police should be allowed to use
“Stop and Search” in the capitol.
Well Liz Rateef , Asad Ahmad and the rest of you, the 20-25% of
indigenous still left in London think that stopping mostly black
murderous drug gangs slaughtering their own fellow
blacks and 17 year old girls in a park, just enjoying themselves
is more of an important issue than you theorizing on ” Stop and
Search.The answer is to have is what happened in New York
with their ” Zero Tolerance” Just possessing a knife should incur
a lengthy prison sentence. If this offends the Londonistan Programme so be it.
Commission a statue of Mark Duggan and place it in the studio, where we can
all see it!
If a violent career criminal who had never done a day’s work in his life from my ‘community’ were shot dead by Police on his way to collect a gun I wouldn’t lose sleep over it. It is sad but most would think: ‘Good riddance you scumbag.’ Only in a parallel dimension would I be really upset, yet alone actually riot in his defence.
That another ‘community’ were so upset by a violent criminal’s murder that they rioted for days shows you the drastically different views of criminality. They saw him as a glamorous hero rather than a total scumbag.
Until we address the issue of attitudes towards crime – which of course will never happen – the carnage will continue.
The intensiy of the Californian forest fires was according to the BBC World Service news “due to too much vegetation due to global warning” However , in reality the reason was poor management of the forests. If the forest management organisations had been diligent in clearing unwanted growth between the trees then the fires would not have spread as they did. This is not rocket science!
Agree in principle Foscari, but how is a penknife regarded if kept on ones person or kept in a car to use in an emergency such as cutting the seat belt enabling one to get out of the car in said emgency? What about Boy Scouts who always have or did have a sheath knife as part of the gear, or indeed the Skean Dhu kept in the sock of a Scots chappy? And in fact any person young or old could just as well take a kitchen knife and use in an attack or as might be the case as a weapon of defence. I know my wife would not hesitate to defend herself should a person break into our house with mull intent-bang him or her over the head with a sucepan or if she had a knife in her hand would use it, its natural in a defence situation. Trevor Phillips has a point in suggesting that the Police should look at who are the main cause-black gangs mostly, but that would be seen as totally racist-pathetic.