Start the Week Open Thread 18 February 2019

39 days or 6 Weeks until A50 expires .Whatever happens we are to be witness the greatest challenge to democracy since a small German attempted to take it away some 80 years ago .

The small German had Goebbels to help him  . The current version is the BBC

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502 Responses to Start the Week Open Thread 18 February 2019

  1. taffman says:

    Well hello here we are again . Still in the EU and first again ?
    The people of Britain are a very patient people but this is beginning to wear thin . Al Beeb and the government are not listening to us. Time now for a change, a change of the telly tax and a change of this useless political class that pretend to run the nation.
    What say you Brexiteers ?

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  2. Fedup2 says:

    It’s becoming a habit ….. there should be an award ..

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    • taffman says:

      Not a bad habit , I hope ?
      Where is evreryone else ? Watching Al Beebo with maxi?

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      • Up2snuff says:

        Posting on weighty matters (CO2! hahahaha) on another Thread, since you ask. Ol’ Fed was a bit too quick off the mark for me to get here in time. 🙁

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  3. StewGreen says:

    BBC Four celebrating Caribbean war time heroes
    claiming non whites weren’t allowed to serve in British Services at first and then in 1941 a black was allowed to enter the RAF
    ..I see the narrator is fixated on blacks, so has probably left out Indians
    And sure enough I find there was an Indian pilot in the RFC in 1917
    and another Indian Ace was in both RFC and still in when it was incorporated into the RAF
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indra_Lal_Roy

    and in WW2 24 Indian pilots entered the RAF in October 1940
    \\ of 24 Indian ‘A’ licence holder pilots accepted to receive a Volunteer Reserve commission with the Royal Air Force during the early part of the Second World War, despite his parents’ fears.[1]
    Embarking for the United Kingdom, his first posting was on 8 October 1940 to No. 1 RAF Depot in Uxbridge. //

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Stew – I always smile at the fact that Indians fought for the Japanese with the promise of banishing the evil British and getting their very own State .. and of course that Indians fought for themselves through the Empire – in the Great War and the 2nd .

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        10% of Indian soldiers fought for the Japanese. They have had enhanced pensions and parades in their honour as freedom fighters over the years.

        Those who fought against the Japanese have never been so highly regarded in India.

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        • Scroblene says:

          I didn’t know that, Dover.

          Why were Brits hated so much that a lot of Indians came over here to live?

          Something to do with normality perhaps?

          And I hate Winalot and rice as well, so never go there…

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      • Nibor says:

        For every Indian that fought for the Japanese 62 fought for the Empire .

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      Before mass immigration this country had no culture, technology or medicine. Darker skinned people arrived and invented everything, rescuing us from certain oblivion.

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  4. Deborah says:

    I thought Mishal always did the Sunday BBC1 10pm news. Today we have a new lady (what a surprise that it isn’t a white stale male) and as we expect from the BBC she appears to come from an ethnic minority.

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      Every single problem faced by minority communities will be solved in one fell swoop when the BBC hits its diversity targets.

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  5. Up2snuff says:

    The BBC still do not understand tariffs.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-47270616

    Only the UK Government can put a tariff on Porsche Cars for UK based customers. Porsche Cars can increase their prices for cars exported to Britain, if they so choose, but they cannot apply a tariff, only a Government can do that.

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    • Beltane says:

      Using the reverse psychology of your average Porsche owner, the more it costs the greater the preen factor. Clever marketing in spite of Brexit.

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  6. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    We often hear remoaners saying us leavers all voted to leave because of different reasons.
    Sovereignty
    Immigration
    Trade deals
    Fishing
    CAP
    ECJ
    and various other reasons.

    They somehow think that this makes voting to leave look weak yet if you think about it, there is so much wrong with the eu that we are spoilt for choice to choose a reason to vote leave.

    They seem to think that if someone’s primary concern was (for example) immigration then nothing else bothered the leave voter and the vote was purely against the mass immigration we are suffering.
    They don’t get it that we are against the whole lot of eu created problems and that having a whole lot of reasons to vote leave is showing the eu as a multiple bad thing as opposed to their view that leavers all voted for a different reason.

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    • Scroblene says:

      All those things, Emmanuel!

      It’s funny that remainers all whinge and wring their little hands when any of the real reasons to ditch the EU are mentioned, but they’re not really qualified to explain why it might be ‘best’ to stay in!

      Of course, you can expect politicians to get it wrong, especially where dealing with the public is concerned, and seeing some news headlines about the new Brexit Party gaining traction gladdens my heart, such that I’ll be watching my MP (Greg Clark) very carefully from now on.

      Not long now, remainers. Soon to whine even more and you can do sod all about it!

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      • Up2snuff says:

        The words of a Lefty Remoaner that I saw somewhere last weekend, on Beeb w/s – or Twitter link from here -or – maybe Guido link from here was bemoaning the fact that Leave were obsessed with an outdated 1945 organisation but young, Remain voting progressives were keen on the big, wide world out there and globalisation.

        Huh?

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  7. Deborah says:

    And Sunday night 10pm news had Karthi reporting the sports including women’s football. I am sure she said it was a cup final but the cameraman hadn’t been very well trained. We could see the spectators , or lack of them. There was an awfully lot of empty seats. Could you imagine a men’s cup match where the stadium was only half full?

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    • Scroblene says:

      I bet you were (are), a great Netball/hockey/lacrosse player, Deborah!

      I would gladly have joined Mrs O’Blene to watch a team doing a great game like these!

      Foobull isn’t my game anyway, as I played rugby, but even £400,000 a week wouldn’t tempt me out of O’Blene Turrets to watch all that money and not much else!

      (I found a daught’s lacrosse stick in the roof recently; it was wooden and had notches all over the handle…I wonder why)!

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      I would love to chat to her about football as she is clearly so interested in it; she talks about sport like she is emptying the contents of her handbag. I love a sports reporter who is clearly so passionate and excited. I bet she could talk for hours about whether Man United play better as a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2.

      Who cares about being good at your job though when you have double victim points?

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    • Peter Sausages says:

      Isn’t Karthi the one with about 600 teeth ?

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  8. anonjoebloggs says:

    Look what I found while renovating a room in my house. Underneath the underlay were some pages from the local paper (2007).

    Something caught my eye in the ‘Letters to the Editor’ section. A letter from some Labour MP’s (including Diane Abbott), Caroline Lucas and the usual left wing organisations proclaiming how amazing Venezuela is since Chavez took charge.

    Also a paragraph strongly demanding that the International community must respect the will of the people in an upcoming referendum.

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    How times have changed…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      I wonder who the 36 others were ? Fortunately those who sign such nonsense believe that their comments will be forgotten or ignored ….

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    • The Sage says:

      Yes, and David Chaytor was later sent to prison for fiddling his expenses!

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      • oldcrone says:

        David Chaytor .. served 4 months of an 18 months sentence and is now leading the good life in France … according to a quote from the Manchester Evening News in 2014 ….”A Hidden Agenda spy was surprised to see him pop up at a party in Todmorden a few weeks back, extolling the virtues of the Gallic lifestyle. Exile seems to be treating him rather well, having bought a house over there he has been ‘walking, planting trees and campaigning for the French socialists’, according to my source”. They always come out smelling of roses these leftie hypocrites, don’t they?

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  9. taffman says:

    Spain throwing its weight about when it has problems at home just like the Junta in Argentina did many years ago .
    Will Al Beeb catch up with this news ?
    Its time our supine government learned some lessons from the past and spent some money on the Royal Navy before its too late.

    http://chronicle.gi/2019/02/spanish-patrol-boat-tries-order-ships-gibraltar-waters/

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    • Do Beeboids Dream of Electric Goats says:

      yeah the spiks really hate us having The Rock. The eu soon ran out of Brexit/Gib ammo as there is a border there already and it isn’t ours…so much for free passage in euroland. They really cannot help themselves over our booming and wealthy territory, they are driven by total jealousy as the spanish coast looks like a bombsite, probably deliberately so. Last i was there i saw a news piece about spanish police shooting firearms at Jet skiers in Gib waters. We never seem to do tit for tat though, like torpedoes at spanish fishing boats off our mainland coast. We are too soft, we should be giving them a good drubbing every so often to keep them on the back foot.

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    • taffman says:

      Nowt on Al Beeb yet . Perhaps they will pick it up from here ?………….
      https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/feb/17/spanish-warship-orders-gibraltar-boats-to-leave-british-waters

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  10. JimS says:

    Ollie Robbins and his team of mandarins draw up Theresa May’s ‘red line’ policy.

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    • taffman says:

      Seriously though, has Oiley Robbins ever done a real job?

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      • Dover Sentry says:

        We’ll be leaving the EU next month on the 29th.

        May is playing it by the book as all administrators do. There is no other choice for her than to ‘Leave’ as voted for.

        I no longer need to read ‘Project Fear’ stories by the BBC.

        We are on our way out.

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      • john in cheshire says:

        Would you employ a treasonous commie?
        I thought they were excluded from the Civil Service too but the policy must have been changed.

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      • English Lass says:

        Taffman he’s done a right proper job on the WA. Trouble is which side he is on and who’s paying him!

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    • Up2snuff says:

      Brilliant sketch. Was that one of the business training films from John Cleese’s company?

      Did Olly Robbins come up with the PM’s ‘red lines’? I don’t think so. Think he would have preferred a blank sheet of paper. The EU had a fixation on an agenda for the negotiations, their red lines. So the PM needed something. She hoped for a 100+ seat majority in the House. I think that red line idea and commitment was a clever means of neutering Olly and his CS team plus the Tory Remoaners, and was perhaps a flash of heavenly(?) inspiration for the PM in the wake of the 2017 GE defeat.

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  11. JamesG says:

    The most ridiculous discussion about slavery on Radio 4 at the moment.

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    • Deborah says:

      How this woman from SOAS got a platform on the Today programme, I cannot imagine. I suspect it is guests like her that have made Humphries want to give up.

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      • Fedup2 says:

        Deborah
        That chat about ‘ de colonialisation ?’ Cheered me up on a Monday . To think that these ‘interlectuals’ are so anti Britain , anti white and anti history that they want teaching changed even more than already .

        SOAS always was the inferior college full of chip bearers as they take tax payers ‘ cash .

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  12. Oldspeaker says:

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-47255380

    The war on news the bbc doesn’t like, or ‘fake news’ continues, this line stood out,
    “The committee did not list specific examples of fake news.”
    And the Goebbelsque,
    ” “nudge people towards news of high quality”.”

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    • Guest Who says:

      Wink, wink.
      ***
      By Justin Parkinson
      Facebook needs more regulation, say MPs

      MPs have criticised Facebook’s founder Mark Zuckerberg for failing to show “leadership or personal responsibility” over the issue of fake news. The Digital, Culture, Media and Sport Committee’s report also said there was a threat to the UK’s democracy from the spreading of untrue stories.

      It called for a “radical shift” in the balance of power between social media platforms and users, including a compulsory code of ethics. Firms must be forced to take down harmful content, including proven sources of disinformation, the committee added.

      All this follows controversy over the political advertising firm Cambridge Analytica having access to the data of millions of Facebook users, some of which was allegedly used to create psychological profiles of US voters.

      Facebook welcomed the report and said it would be open to “meaningful regulation”. So what is fake news? Watch this video to find out.

      ***
      A bbc video to ‘find out’ what fake news is… allegedly.

      Lol.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Old
      They really can’t wait to control the internet . They’ll build a great IT wall so that we can only get authorised news…

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  13. Guest Who says:

    Not BBC, but learned well there, he did.

    Now, odds that J’Obsworth, or any media gob, could survive an hour away from their twitter feed?

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  14. Guest Who says:

    At some point soon, pointing out how dangerous the ratings and ideology media is will be deemed a crime.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2019/02/media-following-same-script-against-maga-as-it-did-against-tea-party/

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  15. JamesG says:

    It’s being reported that a number of Labour MPs will split from the party later this morning. What a shame for Corbyn.

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  16. Greisingel says:

    You’ll need add a channel 4 wing to Your exposé service. “Sleeping with an extremist” looks to be another C4 mind numbingly childish and unprofessional pop doc for an audience I don’t think exists outside of z list celebs and infantile students.

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    • RobRoy says:

      I saw the trailer for ‘Sleeping with an extremist’ but I wonder how many will watch that and find they have similar views to the ‘extremist’. I predict it will backfire as many more people realise they’re now ‘far right’ in the eyes of the libmob.

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      • Dystopian says:

        “I saw the trailer for ‘Sleeping with an extremist’ ”

        What’s that? A film by Dianne Abbot?

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      • maxincony says:

        RobRoy,

        I saw the trailer for ‘Sleeping with an extremist’ but I wonder how many will watch that and find they have similar views to the ‘extremist’.
        _

        This is Jack Sen (the ‘extremist’), in an interview for “The Occidental Observer”:

        “I myself am viewed by the British establishment as a neo-Nazi and White supremacist —remarkably, this is how I am described on websites and blogs set up to expose racist politicians — simply because I came out against Jews”.

        “The Occidental Observer”, is an antisemitic website, which “G” (of BiasedBBC) frequently posts articles from, on this website; along with stuff about Soros, Marxists and the NWO.

        But I’m sure that’s purely coincidental to you wondering; “how many will watch that and find they have similar views”.

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  17. Guest Who says:

    This may bump Begum from the BBC top slot.

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  18. Doobster78 says:

    Another week ….. same old sh%t from the ever impartial BBC.

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  19. Doobster78 says:

    Got to chuckle …

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    • Dystopian says:

      “The act of roasting and boiling meat, potatoes and vegetables pushes particulates in the air up to 13 times the levels recorded on the filthy streets of central London.”

      Or put another way “Air in central London 13 times cleaner than air in kitchens all over the country every Sunday.”
      Yet Sadiq Khan wants to charge £100 a day in clean air tax.

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  20. Doobster78 says:

    Forget President Trump being removed from office … JON SOPEL should be removed from his post asap.

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  21. john in cheshire says:

    Nick Ferrari on LBC this morning going on and on about this female muslim terrorist. Not one mention of the government petition demanding she and the rest of the muslim terrorists are prevented from coming back to our country.

    I find it curious that when our swamp dwellers want something to happen, the law can be ignored or changed but when something we want is not to their liking then the law is a huge barrier to them doing what we want.

    Many if not most English men and women don’t want this muslim terrorist living amongst us, or the thousands who are already living here. So, change the law is my solution.

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    • Doobster78 says:

      “I find it curious that when our swamp dwellers want something to happen, the law can be ignored or changed but when something we want is not to their liking then the law is a huge barrier to them doing what we want.”

      Spot on ….imagine if there was a huge majority of Leavers in the Commons and a great will to leave the EU …. how many of these so called Laws that are currently great obstacles to us leaving, would in fact, be no obstacle at all ???? Funny old game isnt it.

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  22. Sluff says:

    Al Beeb are still filling the airwaves with Shamima Begun sob story propaganda.
    We are apparently supposed to feel sorry for her.
    But here are a few others we might feel sorry for, who I suspect might just be ahead of her in the queue for our sympathy. And strangely forgotten about by Al Beeb.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31121160
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-29586417
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-28862268
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-29038217
    A full gory list is here
    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISIL_beheading_incidents

    Perhaps Al Beeb would like to review this list rather than asking us to get out the hankies for Shamima.
    Nope, I thought not.

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    • les whittaker says:

      I feel sorry for 11 year old Ebba Ackerlund and her family.

      She was cut in two during a terrorist attack in Sweden.

      There were pictures on the web showing the aftermath – not easily forgotten, unless you work for the BBC where she was presumably just in the wrong place at the wrong time.

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      • NameNotNumber says:

        les, thanks for a timely reminder, nearly two years ago now but the BBC must never be allowed to ‘forget’ Ebba.

        The BBC have blacklisted Ebba Akerlund from The_Donald

        David Sedgwick, author of BBC: Brainwashing Britain? comments:
        ‘Underwhelming at best, indifferent at worst, the BBC wasn’t that interested in 11-year old Ebba at all. While story after story poured out of Broadcasting House lamenting the death of the Syrian boy, the death of the young Swedish girl – mown down by a jihadist when walking home from school – barely registered at the BBC. As of September 2018, the number of stories on the BBC news website featuring ‘Alan Kurdi’ stood at over 120. Meanwhile ‘Ebba Åkerlund’ featured in just a single BBC report. The BBC ensured its audience would remember the name of ‘Alan Kurdi.’ It also ensured the name ‘Ebba Åkerlund’ would just as soon be forgotten.’
        https://going-postal.com/2019/01/injuries-to-the-neck-and-other-euphemisms-is-the-bbc-brainwashing-britain/

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        • les whittaker says:

          I think “biasedbbc.org” is too generous.

          How about “sickandtwistedbbc.org” ?

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    • Dystopian says:

      Did anyone hear the ex Imam on Talk Radio this morning practicing his Taqiyya?
      He challenged Shamima Begun’s claim that killing infidels is acceptable in Islamic law.
      He put out that old chestnut about how killing just one person is like killing all of humanity. He neglected to mention it in the context of only applying to Muslims.
      He then goes on to ask her “ beheading of non Muslims and those who do not agree with us- where does it say that Shamima? Where does it say that?”

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  23. Beeb Brother says:

    BBC unironically (SJWs do not get irony) leading with their quest against ‘fake news’ on social media. They want the good old days back when they were the gatekeepers and could tell everyone how to think and vote. They frame it as something entirely different – claiming a girl seeing images on Instagram caused her suicide, when of course she must have had significant problems in the first place. My boys could look at images of suicide all day and be fine. Always spin and misrepresentation – they can never, ever play fair.

    Of course no harm has ever been caused by people watching the BBC. The young man who tried to assassinate Trump, thus ruining his life, must have just dreamt up the idea that Trump is evil. And their ‘diversity is strength’/anything goes mantra – which infects every inch of their output – has caused such solidarity on the red streets of London and Syria, not to mention the ‘groomed’ children. By their own logic the BBC itself should be shut down.

    Alas the Beeb’s salad days are over. Nobody with an IQ above that of a crisp will ever, ever trust them again even if they do succeed in silencing their opposition. Trust is like a vase: smash it and you can stick the vase back together again but it is ugly and never the same. Plus given their recent antics they have no intention of changing their mendacious ways. A Rubicon has been crossed and there is no way back for them now. It is glorious.

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  24. StewGreen says:

    On LBC now ..phone JRM now
    Jacob Rees Mog is sounding like a softy
    “I had my go against the PM. I lost, so I support her now ”

    and when I switched on, he was saying
    “I wouldn’t want that , cos that would be a huge opportunity for Tommy Robinson”

    On Olly Robbins .. Oh he’s just a civil servant doing his job”
    … “The bar incident was probably a deliberate ruse ..to say take May’s Brexit or get no Brexit”

    Now JRM is saying he is worried about the rise of far right parties in Europe “and that could happen here, I am not talking about Faragr who is in the normal range, but rather people like Tommy Robinson”
    ..”officials knew that diesels created dangerous particulates and NOx
    .. worse decision of our time just to show for Kyoto (CO2 agreement)
    (JRM is wrong ..new proper filtered diesels are not the devil)


    \\ Isn’t it strange how they can forgive a girl for joining a terrorist group and all it entails,
    yet far more fuss is created over Tommy Robinson, who’s history is far less heinous… //

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      Yeah good point. Anyone who opposes the party so absolutely gets two minutes’ hate and then some. As long as Begum continues to parrot the party line of victimhood and diversity she will be indulged. The way they have treated Tommy Robinson makes Emmanuel Goldstein’s treatment seem quite tame in comparison.

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Here is sufficient proof that she is not fit to return here.

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      • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

        BB,
        Indeed!

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  25. fakenewswatcher says:

    Toady, this AM: Nick Robinson had to bring up ‘impeachement’ when discussing Russia and Trump.
    The US Senator (DEM) he was talking too had to shoot him (Robinson) down, and point to the ongoing Mueller enquiry not having come up with any conclusion.
    To me, it didn’t sound as if Robinson was asking. He was pushing, ever hopeful of partaking of the biased beeb anti-Trump project, trying to bring the President down. Robinson and the senator had to exchange much ‘buddy-to-buddy’ anti-Trump chat: the naughty President having the audacity to tweet, etc….(Does R4 EVER talk to any Republican senators/ congressmen? Seems their buddies are all Democrats, preferably of the left.
    I think Robinson is now one of the least impartial, most biased newscasters on Toady, maybe trying to outdo Justin Webb and Humphrys to earn brownie points with the biased broadcaster? Jon Sopel better watch his back.
    But then, he has been sounding ever more extreme and unbalanced on issues Trump…
    Don’t suppose complaining to all the former beeb buddies at ‘regulator’, OFCOM would get any results?

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    • Beeb Brother says:

      I have given up on Toady; indeed I am almost completely cleansed of the BBC now, with only their sports coverage remaining. They preach about ‘hate speech’ but to me their smug sneering is so much worse than any legitimate hatred – it so infuriates me.

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      • gaxvil says:

        If anything stick with bbc WS on the radio. They do put out, unwittingly at times, reports from around the world like the one from Hamburg on how the Germans are quietly pooping their pants.
        I learned that the god and messiah, Haile Selassie built a fabulous mosque and conducted a thirty year program of ethnic cleansing, killing tens of thousands.

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    • Emmanuel Goldstein says:

      How much have the democrats spent and wasted trying to get Donald Trump out of the White House.
      They could have been doing proper political work instead of continuously whingeing on because they lost.
      Same as our leavers.
      Just accept the democratic result and get on with it.

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  26. StewGreen says:

    David Lammy , coming up at 10am

    LBC this week 10am regular presenter James O’Brien is on holiday.
    Thank God a break from the bigot
    … BUT 5 Remainer Metro-liberals bigots have been lined up to do 3 hours each
    Monday: David Lammy
    Tuesday: Emily Thornberry
    Wednesday: Tom Watson
    Thursday: Anna Soubry
    Friday: Jess Phillips
    https://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/five-days-of-big-names-hosts-james-obrien/

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  27. StewGreen says:

    LBC now Hope Not Hate report with HnH Gemma’s Levine
    “The State of Public Relations Trickery” report
    …On no I mean the The State of Hate report
    Ferrari very friendly with her

    Gemma “Yes one of the big reasons for the rise is CONSPIRACY THEORIES
    .. HnH of course label anyone outside the metroLiberal elite as “far right” eg Tommy
    ..and one of the biggest drivers of sympathy for TR is the appearance of CONSPIRACIES against him
    eg the High Court found that he should not have been immediately jailed in Leeds and that the 20 minute trial was a kangeroo court
    eg 2 The SkyNews maliciously edited hit pieace that they withdrew
    (any news of punishment for that judge ?)

    An “independent” speaker Sunda Cadwallar from “British Future Group” was put on next ..he supported the report
    …Here is one take on the report

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    • gaxvil says:

      We’ve seen some of these, Hope not Haters. Not sure what they hope for other than that anyone who disagrees with them should disappear or die.
      The violence, banality and pure stupidity displayed by the freedom loving, touchy feely, f***ers does nothing to convince me.

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      • ID says:

        Gaxvil
        Don’t you realise that Fedup2 your self-appointed language policeman and vanquisher of smut has banned the use of foul obscenities like “f***ers”. Is the All Seeing One yet again asleep at the rudder? The avoidance of vulgar expressions is Fedup2’s new grand stategy to destroy the BBC. Please comply!

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    • StewGreen says:

      Ferrari has at least read a text
      “The HnH report is deceptive cos it equates criticism of Islam with hate for Muslim, that is wrong, cos the UK has no blasphemy law and we should be free to criticise all religions.

      Now a Labour politician David Lammy is presenting a show
      which is all about the Labour Party breakup
      impartial media ..my arse

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    • StewGreen says:

      Right so Ferrari after the HnH Gemma introduced Sunda as “Independent”
      Yet the first thing I see on Twitter his him promoting the report as if he is right behind HnH

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      • G.W.F. says:

        Hope not Hate derive £120,000 per year from Unbound Philanthropy, a City /Wall street outfit that finances various causes of the left, particularly pro migrant and open borders. Until 2016 it was getting, £200,000 pa. but other worthy causes have taken a slice so it is down to £120.000.
        Here is the link.
        If you want to see exactly who gets what scroll to the very end and open the section named Full Grants List.

        https://www.unboundphilanthropy.org/who-we-fund

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        • StewGreen says:

          HnH’s divisions the charity & political , both get funding from the millions in the JoCox foundation as one of the 3 orgs it funds
          – The slogans of JCF & HnH are very similar
          The Brendan Cox connection ?
          He no longer directly directs the JCF funds as he stepped down due to his sex scandals
          Did Brendan also found HnH ? That is put down as his good buddy Nick Lowles who he was drinking with the night before JoCox died
          Brendan was involved in the startup cos he was an adviser to Gordon Brown who helped the start up.
          .. It looks like HnH was started as a front by Labour bods who were concerned about BNP candidates eating into the Labour vote
          … Whereas David Cameron is a founding signatory of UAF, one of a hundred cross party, including unions, religions etc.
          http://uaf.org.uk/about/founding-signatories/

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Wow they are worried arnt they?

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  28. gaxvil says:

    Again, it’s not about a news and media organisation, it’s about influence and control and power.
    It’s about having the resources, provided unwillingly by us of course, to change things – big things like the results of a vote and the career of a politician, the office of a President. To pursue an agenda as is the job of all pressure groups and what really rankles is that the bbc is so dishonest and cowardly regarding it’s motives.

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    • StewGreen says:

      Note Ferrari didn’t ask about hate/prejudice FROM ethnic Muslims
      \\ @NickFerrariLBC @lbc You should have asked @hopenothate about Muslim prejudices too .
      It’s not one way .
      Eg: gay rights,marrying into other faiths, women’s rights etc
      They are more prejudiced than White British but it’s never mentioned and swept under carpet !! //

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  29. StewGreen says:

    Of course it is quite possible that today’s Labour split will take media attention away from the Hatey No Hopers report.

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  30. G.W.F. says:

    Questions to be asked regarding the radicalisation of yang people who join Isis. Look at the BBC photos of the brave Isis warriors marching in their costumes with flags, and guns. The kind of photograph designed to tip the minds of the stupid . Compare them with the pictures of EDL demonstrators, rowdy, untidy etc.
    BBC have been a recruiting agency for Isis.

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  31. Doobster78 says:

    The penny finally drops why Corbyn, Abbott and McDonnell cannot be taken seriously. Also the hangers on like Pug faced little fecker Owen Jones.

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  32. StewGreen says:

    R4 Metro-Liberal-Womans-Hour
    “right that was Syrian refugee film story
    ..now our guest is the woman who’s last book photo’d men’s penises
    ..and her new Channel4 film is photos of women’s vulvas”

    BTW as a man i would never look at book of other men’s penises
    .. It could be different for women that they are interested in looking at other women’s vulvas

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  33. Emmanuel Goldstein says:

    It seems so strange hearing the bbc news reporting on ‘fake news’

    It’s good to see that some of the liberal Tory mps are getting their comeuppance. Those like Wollaston who stood on a manifesto to leave the eu but is doing everything she can to stop it happening.
    Let’s hope this trend spreads.
    Here in Sunderland, big leave vote in 2016, our 3 MPs are all remainers so if anybody knows of any petitions to sign to deselect them I’m in.

    And finally,
    I think this terrorist girl who wants to come back to England must be the first muslamickle that appears to tell the truth when asked questions about her going and joining IS although being surrounded by IS members she would be taking a huge gamble with her life if she said anything against IS.
    That will probably be said once she is safe in her new council house back in England.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Great Day for the Labour Party – 7 splitters .

      Can you imagine the cat fighting ?

      All we need now is for the soubry gang to do the same on the other side and the confusion will run down the clock further and hopefully destroy the 2 ‘big’ parties which have let Britain down since Lady Thatcher held the reins .

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  34. vesnadog says:

    This morning. Radio5 live 6:30 AM. Interview with Dolly Parton on the first west end show about her life.

    BBC reporter:

    Second question: Ms Parton. What do you think about BREXIT?

    Dolly: Would not get involved.

    The disappointed 5live reporter/Studio storm-troopers – dead silence. Then feeble joke about her supporting Trump.

    Her west end show was “absolutely not” about politics yet the BBC elites tried to trip her up. Scum.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Ves
      I wonder what Dolly will think of the BBC on her way back to the States . Bet she pities what is becoming of Britain .

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      • vesnadog says:

        Fed,

        She supports Mr Trump (good) seems to hate British media these days especially the BBC (even better).

        BBC not used to rebuke and silent answers to scum questions.

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    • TrueToo says:

      vesnadog,

      Dolly Parton?

      Good that she wouldn’t be drawn into the BBC’s little game. Fine singer and actress.

      She was superb in ‘The best little whorehouse in Texas’ as the madam fighting hypocrisy from the authorities. She leads the girls in a great song near the end.

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      • vesnadog says:

        TT,

        “Fine singer and actress.”

        Especially the duo with Kenny Rodgers singing the Bee Gee’s song (forget the title just now?) must be my tired brain.

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  35. Foscari says:

    I believe that the BBC could really help Shamina Begum and
    others who went to Syria to support IS in their noble cause.
    Shamina was a “poster” girl for IS. She could well become a
    poster girl for the BBC!
    Perhaps I would start her off as a “roving” reporter for the
    Londonistan Programme. She could be sent out to cover
    stories similar to the Lee Rigby affair. She would be dispassionate
    and be able to control her emotions if she saw the odd
    decapitated head rolling around in the street.
    Then maybe ” Strictly Come Dancing” or ” Bake Off” as her
    celebrity status rises. The “One Show” comes to mind.
    Yes I believe a bright future waits for Shamina at the BBC.
    Her diversity would fit in very nicely.

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    • BRISSLES says:

      Her and Nadiya could sit as anchors reading the news , or even funnier, could present a segment on Countryfile !

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  36. StewGreen says:

    JOB is losing to Peter Hitchins

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  37. Celtic_Mist says:

    It’s quite amusing to listen to the reasons for some leaving the Labour Party, because it seems they believe their own propaganda regarding, Brexit, racism, antisemitism, Venezuela etc etc. Ironically, the likes of the BiasedBBC has likely been at least partly responsible.

    In a way I feel sorry for some of them because they have been so savaged on Twitter and other Social Media. However, tribal divisiveness is a product of mainly US left liberalism that has become so corrosive that it is now devouring its own

    It manifests as Trump Derangement Syndrome, and may ultimately lead to break up of the Democrat Party, all whilst their favorite activity is virtue signalling. Maybe I’m a bit deluded too, but just trying to make sense of it all…

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    • Fedup2 says:

      Have they declared themselves to be the “ Judea peoples’ front ‘ or ‘the peoples front of judea ‘ ( he’s over there ) – splitters .

      Maybe they can sit with the SNP in the misery corner

      If Corbyn had a sense of humour he’d put Lady Shabi up to do another serious faced white wash job.

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    • Fedup2 says:

      With a bit of luck that old boy who is a trot will run again to split the democrat vote . And the BBC loved him .

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    • Beltane says:

      Yet the main reason for the dramatic rise in anti-Semitism – which as we know is never publicly or directly connected by association with any other religio-political group and has been, and remains, purely coincidental – is not mentioned, even by those with the moral courage to make a stand against anti-Semitism.
      Perhaps Owen and Polly could clarify for us, since Jo’B is on holiday?

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  38. vesnadog says:

    Same show. Radio 5 live. Nicky Campbell. some minutes later.

    Interview with some unknown male teenage “think tank” leader.

    Every other question from this nicky fella was about bleeding every/any bit of anti-Brexit news/data out of this poor kid. Never used the word: “remainers” in any of his questions.
    .

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    • Guest Who says:

      Ah, Nicky…

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  39. gaxvil says:

    Since 2016 or so we have suffered the most unutterable, propaganda, exaggerations, outright lies, tittle -tattle, spite, insults, and wreckless behavior from the bbc, the media, the Labour Party, MPs, SJWs, Snowflakes and foriegners. We’ve witnessed the Tories tie themselves in knots, trying to please EVERYONE and of course themselves. Things can only get better.

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    • JamesG says:

      Every time I think things can’t get worse, they do: I never expected someone who ought to be regarded by 100% of the population as a traitor being viewed as a victim who ought to be allowed back into the country so that you and me can pay for her and her children to live a cushy lifestyle, but that’s what is happening at the moment.

         57 likes

      • gaxvil says:

        Yes, I know. The way foreigners and home grown scum are given such favourable treatment over us is nothing short of betrayal.

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  40. NCBBC says:

    The small German had Goebbels to help him . The current version is the BBC

    At least we didn’t have to pay £5bn to Goebbels. But we do have to pay the BBC for bombing Britain from the air with a continuous stream of leftist, pro-Islam anti-Christian, and Climate Change propaganda.

    All delivered with the air that they are the accepted views of the British people. And the BBC is merely confirming them.

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  41. Flashman says:

    Listening to business news on R4 at 6:20 this morning and apparently FlyBMI had 2 problems 1) Brexit uncertainty and 2) inability to obtain CO2 certificates owing to Brexit.
    Later on LBC I learned that the airline averaged 19 passengers per flight over a period of a year.

       46 likes

    • Guest Who says:

      They could have done roaring trade with Ms. Aniston and the less newsworthy one.

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    • NCBBC says:

      I believe this is the airline, BMI, that showed the direction to Mecca on inflight TV monitors. That was a few years back. I stopped flying with them as a consequence.

      I wonder how many did that too.

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  42. gaxvil says:

    Post Brexit when we’re struggling for a crust or scrap of fire wood?Remember the Berlin Airlift? Maybe the Germans could do it in reverse and fly us in loads of stuff, FOC just like then of course.
    They could use redundant FlyBMI planes.

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    • NCBBC says:

      The Germans will do no such thing unless we accepted that we will buy only German cars.

      We owe the Germans nothing. In fact they owe Britain and America their very existence. Else they would be part of the USSR. Most Germans would have died in the Gulag, and the USSR would still be a going concern. And no EU.

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      • vesnadog says:

        NBBC.

        “German cars.”

        wouldn’t it be a wonderful thing for the British motor car industry if some ambitious fella made the first move to use the Honda factory (or similar elsewhere in UK) to bring about the rise of manufacture of British Vehicles as we used to have many years ago. I would be the first in line to buy a genuine British made/invented motor car. (If I could drive)

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  43. Guest Who says:

    https://unherd.com/2019/02/the-bbcs-diversity-scaremongering/?

    The BBC has two kinds of diversity:

    1) Good – when it comes by the bucket. Boom.

    2) Bad – when there is not enough 1).

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    • thehoiman says:

      The ‘bad’ diversity is that of opinion or thought.

      i.e. Opinion or thought which contradicts the bBBC worldview*

      *also known in Beebspeak as ‘far right extremism.’

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  44. Fedup2 says:

    Dipped into the BBC news on TV. The light weight carri Gracie running the show badly with no ability to keep pace or be objective,

    It felt like someone had died -.

       25 likes

    • vesnadog says:

      And her eyes yesterday! She could not disguise her dismay at the story of those Labour MPs resigning. As if she was crying inside with no hanky to wipe her tears. Bless.

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  45. Guest Who says:

    https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2019/02/18/bbc-backtracking-on-ippr-extreme-weather-claims/

    The BBC does of course not really ‘backtrack’; it simply ‘evolves the story’ in reverse from inaccurate to less inaccurate.

    Trust them.

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  46. Fedup2 says:

    The jo coburn show has a dusky maiden who claims to be a communist – having a go at an MP now a member of the Independent Group .

    What this character -‘ Ash’ is doing on the TV – I cant figure – apart from tick box .

    I don’t watch BBC politics much but this was worth it as the bias is disturbed by events.

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  47. tarien says:

    One large reason that is causing us from a smooth exit from the European Union.
    Any nation which bases its existence on a monetary system, rather than the real, physical economy, is doomed to failure in a quagmire of corruption as the god of money demands ever more deregulation so that corrupt bankers can take on ever more convoluted side bets in an effort to generate “alpha”.
    When it all goes to hell, instead of sending in the receivers to reorganise the debts of the failed organisation, as in any other industry sectors, we are told that banks are “too big to fail.”
    This is just another example of Treason, where the interests of international powers – in this case international privately owned banks and hedge funds – are put before those of the nation.
    It is their power that is obstructing Britains exit. Their power whether we leave with or without an agreement will be dogged by the global financial elites. The apex of this system, if one can call it that is the Bank of International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland: a private bank owned and controlled ( still is today) by the world’s central banks which were themselves private corporations.’ The aim was deb and still is-The EU have never been solvent as such, bringing in countries who really had nothing much to offer, into the Union was a deliberate act by the finacial elite to further burden Britain and others in extracting, no matter how painful, more money-exploiting the so called drop in labour by encouraging mass immigration from countries mostly unable to bring anything worthwhile other than to lean on that countries welfare opportunities, as shown so well by a BBC prog recently-Guypsies/Roma people. What idiots we are !

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  48. gaxvil says:

    Yup, they sure have encouraged Labour to become unelectable but then why should the ‘British’ broadcasting corporation care – they are the definitive, ‘power without responsibility’.

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  49. Kaiser says:

    a man more intelligent than any selection highly paid BBC journalists
    takes the BBC to task

    https://unherd.com/2019/02/the-bbcs-diversity-scaremongering/

       14 likes